[05:12] <Kilos> hi SmilyBorg  and all others too
[05:21] <SmilyBorg> hi Kilos
[06:42] <Kilos> hi Tonberry_  
[07:27] <magespawn> good morning
[07:35] <inetpro> good mornings
[07:41] <inetpro> hello magespawn1
[08:09] <somaunn> hi Maaz
[08:09] <somaunn> hi Squirm
[08:09] <somaunn> can you please tell me how to recognize a bot in a irc channel ?
[08:18] <magespawn> somaunn: i do not know of any specific way
[08:18] <magespawn> Maaz are you a bot?
[08:18] <Maaz> Well duh!
[08:18] <magespawn> that sorts that one out
[08:50] <gremble> Good morning
[08:51] <magespawn> hi gremble
[08:52] <gremble> Morning magespawn 
[09:18] <Kilos> ai! thgis load shedding sucks
[09:18] <Kilos> this as well
[09:19] <Kilos> morning superfly  gremble  magespawn  theblazehen  and tumbles too
[09:19] <theblazehen> h Kilos
[09:19] <theblazehen> hi *
[09:19] <Kilos> haha
[09:20] <superfly> morning Kilos
[09:21] <superfly> Kilos: we're currently in loadshedding
[09:22] <superfly> *most* IRC bots do not reply directly, you use !commands
[09:23] <superfly> so the best way to figure out which are bots in a channel is to just use the !help command
[09:23] <superfly> !help
[09:23] <superfly> most of the bots will reply :-)
[09:24] <gremble> superfly: No helpfile currently loaded.
[09:25] <Kilos> ah ty superfly  
[09:48] <Kilos> !help
[09:49] <gremble> Kilos: No helpfile currently loaded.
[09:49] <Kilos> Maaz  im talking to you man stupid bot
[09:49] <Maaz> :(
[09:49] <gremble> :P
[09:49] <Kilos> haha
[09:49] <gremble> I entertain myself so
[09:50] <Kilos> oh the bot hasnt got a helpfile loaded?
[09:50] <Kilos> no
[09:50] <Kilos> he has
[09:50] <Kilos> Maaz  help
[09:50] <Maaz> Kilos: I can help you with: looking things up, remembering things, delivering messages, decisions, games, monitoring things, browsing the internet, conversions, silly fun stuff, calculations, system administration, software development and south african stuff.
[09:50] <Maaz> Ask me "help me with ..." for more details.
[09:50] <gremble> Bots have different command strings. Some use . or !, Maaz reads his name
[09:51] <gremble> Maaz help me with silly fun stuff
[09:51] <Maaz> gremble: I use the following features for silly fun stuff: bash, choose, coffee, duel, dvorak, fml, fortune, insult, mlia, morse, nickometer, random, redirect, rot13, saydo, tfln and werewolf
[09:51] <Maaz> Ask me "how do I use ..." for more details.
[09:51] <gremble> Maaz insult Kilos 
[09:51] <Maaz> Kilos, thou pottle-deep, left-over flax-wench
[09:51] <gremble> :P
[09:52] <gremble> flax means black. I have no idea what the rest is
[09:52] <Kilos> lol just dont tell him to swear at me his language is bad
[09:52] <gremble> Maaz: nickometer
[09:52] <Maaz> gremble: gremble is 0.0% lame
[09:52] <gremble> :P
[09:52] <Kilos> you bored gremble  ?
[09:52] <gremble> A little bit
[09:52] <Kilos> hows the studying going
[09:52] <gremble> Stuck with work
[09:53] <gremble> Finished exams, passed all my subjects
[09:53] <Kilos> well done
[09:53] <Kilos> so whats next
[09:53] <gremble> Right now I am trying to go through a paper by Alonzo Church, "A set of postulates for the foundations of logic"
[09:53] <gremble> But it is difficult
[09:53] <Kilos> eish 
[09:55] <Kilos> have some coffee and ponder the situation from another angle
[09:55] <Kilos> Maaz  coffee on
[09:55]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[09:58] <Kilos> Maaz  hurry
[09:58] <Maaz> Making decent coffee is an art Kilos and should never be rushed
[09:58] <gremble> Maaz is actually a fairly clever bot
[09:58] <gremble> Well, no. An adequately prepared bot
[09:59] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[09:59] <gremble> I wouldn't be able to say anything about his intellect without seeing the code :P
[10:01] <Kilos> ah you do python?
[10:01] <Kilos> we looked at the code last year i think, magespawn  and i to try teach him to braai
[10:03] <theblazehen> Kilos: got a link for code again?"
[10:05] <theblazehen> Maaz: help
[10:05] <Maaz> theblazehen: I can help you with: looking things up, remembering things, delivering messages, decisions, games, monitoring things, browsing the internet, conversions, silly fun stuff, calculations, system administration, software development and south african stuff.
[10:05] <Maaz> Ask me "help me with ..." for more details.
[10:05] <theblazehen> Maaz: help with games
[10:05] <Maaz> theblazehen: I use the following features for games: duel and werewolf
[10:05] <Maaz> Ask me "how do I use ..." for more details.
[10:05] <theblazehen> Maaz: help with system administration
[10:05] <Maaz> theblazehen: I use the following features for system administration: apt-file, aptitude, dns, http, ipcalc, mac, man, nmap, ping, ports, tld and tracepath
[10:05] <Maaz> Ask me "how do I use ..." for more details.
[10:06] <theblazehen> how do i use ipcalc
[10:06] <theblazehen> MaaZ: how do i use ipcalc
[10:06] <Maaz> theblazehen: IP address calculator. You can use it like this:
[10:06] <Maaz>   ipcalc <network>/<subnet>
[10:06] <Maaz>   ipcalc <address> - <address>
[10:06] <theblazehen> nice
[10:07] <Kilos> i dont even know what ipcalc means
[10:13] <magespawn> hey all
[10:13] <theblazehen> hi magespawn
[10:23] <theblazehen> wb magespawn
[10:23] <Kilos> hehe north coast internet not too good
[10:28] <gremble> Kilos: Yes I know python
[10:28] <Kilos> yay you can fix the code then to make an ibid braai same as making coffee
[10:29] <Kilos> maybe magespawn  still has it handy, ive done so many installs since then it be long gone
[10:29] <gremble> If someone points me to it I can have a look
[10:30] <theblazehen> Kilos: it's python, so whoever runs it will have the source
[10:30] <Kilos> you can download the source
[10:30] <Kilos> we did
[10:30] <theblazehen> but not with all the south africa stuff added
[10:31] <Kilos> ya its a south african bot
[10:31] <Kilos> made right here by the crash kid, tumbles and some others
[10:31] <Kilos> https://launchpad.net/ibid
[10:31] <theblazehen> ah
[10:32] <theblazehen> crash?
[10:32] <Kilos> you dont know who the crash kid is
[10:32] <theblazehen> nope..
[10:32] <Kilos> the owner of maaz
[10:32] <Kilos> cocooncrash_  
[10:32] <theblazehen> ah
[10:33] <Kilos> both stolen from us by silicon valley
[10:35] <Kilos> i actually taught a bot to braai once
[10:35] <theblazehen> gremble: coffee is in ./ibid/plugins/fun.py
[10:35] <Kilos> but was easier than doing it by code
[10:36] <theblazehen> ah
[10:36] <theblazehen> Which bot?
[10:36] <Kilos> minime i think it was called
[10:36] <Kilos> its an online thing
[10:36] <theblazehen> ah
[10:37] <Kilos> i forget how you find it 
[10:37] <theblazehen> Maaz: nickometer Kilos
[10:37] <Maaz> theblazehen: Kilos is 0.0% lame
[10:37] <Kilos> never mind. teach an ibid to braai same as making coffee then we good
[10:38] <theblazehen> Maaz: nickometer theblazehen
[10:38] <Maaz> theblazehen: theblazehen is 0.0% lame
[10:38] <theblazehen> ya
[10:38] <Kilos> its only with other characters in that you get lame
[10:38] <theblazehen> like how?
[10:38] <Kilos> kilos_blunt
[10:39] <Kilos> wb magespawn  fix it man
[10:39] <theblazehen> Maaz: nickometer kilos_blunt
[10:39] <Maaz> theblazehen: kilos_blunt is 14.4% lame
[10:40] <Kilos> Maaz  nickometer kilosblunt
[10:40] <Maaz> Kilos: kilosblunt is 0.0% lame
[10:40] <Kilos> see
[10:40] <theblazehen> ya
[10:40]  * Kilos loves ibids
[10:41] <Kilos> they get quite cheeky at times too
[10:41] <Kilos> maaz join #linux-studies
[10:41] <Maaz> Kilos: I'm not your bitch
[10:41] <Kilos> hehe
[10:45] <gremble> Lol
[10:45] <gremble> xD
[10:45] <gremble> I'll see if I can have a pull request ready tonight
[10:45] <gremble> Doesn't look difficult at all
[10:47] <Kilos> no rush, work and studies first, only when you are bored
[10:47] <gremble> Studies are finished, I am not employed. 
[10:48] <gremble> Everything I do, I do because I would be bored elsewise
[10:48] <gremble> :P
[10:48] <Kilos> lol
[10:48] <Kilos> magespawn  are you taking note?
[10:49] <Kilos> with luck QA can braai sometime
[10:49] <gremble> QA?
[10:50] <Kilos> my ibid in my channel #kilos
[10:50] <Kilos> and in #linux-studies
[10:50] <Kilos> i go eat
[11:02] <theblazehen> gremble: I'll test mine soon
[11:04] <gremble> Let me know if you get it going, then I don't have to :P
[11:06] <theblazehen> sure
[11:12] <Kilos> oh my channel is ##kilos
[11:12] <Kilos> stupid me
[11:12] <Kilos> tummy full, eyes pulling closed
[11:25] <theblazehen> Hi Maaz2
[11:25] <theblazehen> Maaz2 braai on
[11:25]  * Maaz2 gets a beer
[11:25] <theblazehen> Maaz2 braai on
[11:25] <Maaz2> theblazehen: I'm not feeling too well
[11:26] <theblazehen> Maaz2 braai please
[11:26] <Maaz2> theblazehen: That didn't go down very well. Burp.
[11:26] <gremble> Lol
[11:27] <theblazehen> gremble: food in 15 min
[11:34] <gremble> Nice. Then I don't have to :P
[11:34] <gremble> Maaz2: hurry up
[11:34] <Maaz2> gremble: *blink*
[11:34] <gremble> :P
[11:41] <theblazehen> lol
[11:45] <charl> good afternoon
[11:46] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[11:46]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[11:46] <charl> oh dear we have a doppelganger
[11:46] <charl> theblazehen: why you introduce a doppelganger here :D
[11:46] <charl> Maaz2: coffee on
[11:46]  * Maaz2 puts the kettle on
[11:47] <charl> better than the first maaz, he still has dirty cups lying around
[11:50] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl!
[11:50] <Maaz2> Coffee's ready for charl!
[11:51] <gremble> theblazehen: Where is the food? :P
[11:57] <theblazehen> gremble: dunno..
[12:18] <gremble> theblazehen: want to gist your code?
[12:18] <theblazehen> gremble: I'll maybe just zip it up?
[12:20] <gremble> No, I just want the bit of code for the braai, not all of it :P
[12:20] <gremble> Paste it with a github gist or a pastebin
[12:20] <gremble> I just want to see what you did
[12:20] <theblazehen> Basically just copied the coffee bit
[12:20] <theblazehen> Will pastebin soon
[12:21] <gremble> mmkay
[12:22] <theblazehen> http://pastebin.com/ytiuK9BS
[12:24] <gremble> maaz coffee_time
[12:24] <Maaz> gremble: Huh?
[12:24] <gremble> maaz Brewing time in seconds
[12:24] <Maaz> gremble: Sorry...
[12:24] <gremble> bleh
[12:25] <gremble> Haha we thought very alike theblazehen :P
[12:25] <theblazehen> gremble: hah, ok :)
[12:27] <gremble> Already see a problem, you redefined pots as "placesOnGrid" but you still have pots usage in braai_announce
[12:35] <theblazehen> oh, shit, should used sed, ty
[12:38] <gremble> Np :P
[12:42] <theblazehen> I kinda expected it actually
[12:47] <gremble> You expected to break it? :P
[13:11] <gremble> Hmm now I have to see how to run this thing
[13:13] <theblazehen> read INSTALL in main directory
[13:13] <theblazehen> get python-dev then use setup.py for deps
[13:14] <theblazehen> gremble: ^
[13:15] <gremble> https://github.com/Gremble09/ibid/blob/master/ibid/plugins/fun.py Looks fine
[13:20] <theblazehen> gremble: nice :)
[13:20] <theblazehen> Want me to run it for a bit
[13:20] <gremble> Sure
[13:20] <gremble> See if it works
[13:20] <theblazehen> kk
[13:20] <gremble> If it accidentally steals all your information. Well... 
[13:21] <gremble> :P
[13:21] <theblazehen> I'll check the diffs..
[13:21] <gremble> haha
[13:21] <gremble> It really won't
[13:21] <gremble> xD
[13:21] <theblazehen> That makes me more suspicious..
[13:21] <theblazehen> lol
[13:22] <gremble> :P
[13:26] <theblazehen> > features = ('braai',) 
[13:26] <theblazehen> That comma?
[13:26] <gremble> No idea. It is in the coffee class as well
[13:26] <gremble> Supposed to be there
[13:26] <theblazehen> ah
[13:27] <theblazehen> I'm getting errors this time round on setup.
[13:27] <gremble> Oh. what kind?
[13:28] <theblazehen> http://pastebin.com/mmhEpFsk
[13:28] <theblazehen> during ibid-setup
[13:29] <theblazehen> worked fine last time
[13:30] <gremble> That is nothing I did >.>
[13:30] <theblazehen> hmm..
[13:31] <gremble> The plugins file isn't even called there
[13:31] <theblazehen> kk
[13:37] <theblazehen> When I try and run it anyway I also get error, with assert_unicode
[13:37] <gremble> That is odd
[13:38] <theblazehen> http://pastebin.com/10ubmDeG
[13:38] <gremble> I will have a look see in a bit. :/
[13:38] <theblazehen> kk
[13:48] <gremble> theblazehen: did you install it from the ppa or from github?
[14:01] <inetpro> wb Kilos
[14:02] <Kilos> ty inetpro i was asleep and modem disconnected while on elementaryos
[14:02] <Kilos> same 12.04 probs
[14:02] <inetpro> hmm.... no loadshedding?
[14:02] <Kilos> this morning for 2 hours
[14:03] <inetpro> when?
[14:03] <Kilos> just saw there is a link to their schedule in mybroadband
[14:03] <Kilos> um
[14:03] <Kilos> 8.45 for 2 hours i think, i worked in garden
[14:04] <Kilos> http://mybroadband.co.za/news/general/115259-eskom-load-shedding-schedule.html
[14:04] <inetpro> eish, in that case you can expect again now
[14:04] <Kilos> oh no
[14:04] <inetpro> http://www.tshwane.gov.za/Services/Electricity/Pages/LoadShedding.aspx
[14:04] <Kilos> oh ya they the culprits hey
[14:04] <Kilos> ty for that
[14:04] <inetpro> you must be in Group 2
[14:05]  * inetpro just came back from Group 1 load shedding
[14:06] <inetpro> Grp2: 08:00 to 10:30 & 16:00 to 18:30
[14:07] <Kilos> we been 1600 to 18.30 all week already, today they went in the morning as well
[14:08] <inetpro> well we're on Stage 3 schedule today for sure
[14:08] <Kilos> so , inetpro can you do the topic bar please
[14:08] <inetpro> uh, what must it be?
[14:08] <Kilos> and check the re-verification page and see what more is needed
[14:09] <Kilos> 16th
[14:09] <Kilos> 20.30 here then we move to #ubuntu-meeting before 22.00
[14:09] <inetpro> you have an Agenda page for me for the link?
[14:10] <Kilos> oi
[14:10] <Kilos> maaz agenda
[14:10] <Maaz> Kilos: What?
[14:10] <Kilos> nuvolari: ping
[14:10] <Kilos> nuvolari: ping ping ping
[14:11] <inetpro> ai!
[14:11] <inetpro> arme ou
[14:11] <inetpro> sal dronk word van al daai pings
[14:11] <Kilos> i thought maaz would remember it as he gave the links at the end of meeting
[14:11] <Kilos> lol
[14:12] <Kilos> hy sal dit eers maandag kry ek dink
[14:12] <inetpro> haha
[14:12] <theblazehen> gremble: github
[14:12] <Kilos> theblazehen: you done it?
[14:12] <gremble> mmkay
[14:13] <theblazehen> Kilos: gremble mosly
[14:13] <gremble> Kilos: Both of us have. His works and mine doesnt
[14:13] <gremble> haha
[14:13] <theblazehen> lol, yea..
[14:13] <Kilos> wow well done
[14:13] <theblazehen> Does it run on your PC?
[14:13] <gremble> :P Haven't checked yet. About to leave
[14:13] <theblazehen> to?
[14:13] <gremble> I will check when I come back
[14:13] <theblazehen> kk
[14:14] <gremble> Meeting a lady whose house I am looking after
[14:14] <gremble> I have to see how she feeds her dogs
[14:14] <inetpro> theblazehen: ibid on github now, where?
[14:14] <Kilos> down their throats
[14:14] <Kilos> no where else works
[14:14] <theblazehen> inetpro: https://github.com/Gremble09/ibid/blob/master/ibid/plugins/fun.py
[14:15] <gremble> or https://github.com/ibid/ibid
[14:15] <inetpro> oh I see the project moved...interesting
[14:15] <theblazehen> ah..
[14:19] <Kilos> they playing inetpro to make ibids braai
[14:20] <inetpro> eish!
[14:20] <Kilos> lol they doing it for me man
[14:20] <Kilos> im tired of living on coffee alone
[14:20]  * inetpro needs to spend some time to understand git properly
[14:21] <inetpro> all this branching and merging confuses me way too much
[14:21] <Kilos> ya i have no idea what is going on there either
[14:22] <inetpro> supposed to make life much easier
[14:22] <inetpro> and I'm sure it does, once you understand it
[14:24] <gremble> I don't even understand it and it makes my life easier
[14:24] <Kilos> lol
[14:24] <Kilos> go meet the lady gremble 
[14:24] <Kilos> ust now you late
[14:24] <gremble> 6min then I have to leave
[14:24] <Kilos> just as well
[14:25] <Kilos> ah
[14:31] <Kilos> very hot here now
[15:03] <inetpro> hmm... eskom killed him?
[15:12] <theblazehen> inetpro: It makes it easier :)
[15:49] <inetpro> theblazehen: haha :-)
[15:54] <inetpro> theblazehen: some ambiguity in that 
[16:14] <theblazehen> inetpro: ah sorry, talking about the version control
[16:25] <Kilos> power back again. 1/2 less than normal
[16:25] <Kilos> 1/2 hour
[16:25] <Kilos> so yay
[16:30] <Kilos> ok clever peeps where am i going wrong with this ibid-setup
[16:30] <Kilos> http://slexy.org/view/s2H08gGOTb
[16:48] <theblazehen> Hmm KilosI had exact same error
[16:48] <theblazehen> Kilos I *
[16:48] <Kilos> sjoe
[16:49] <Kilos> i havent managed to get it going on 14.04 at all , kde or unity but worked lekker and easy to setup in 12.04
[16:50] <Kilos> tumbleweed, can you please just check and tell me where im going wrong. and maybe the link on how to set it up again. i thought i had it off pat
[16:53] <Kilos> inetpro, try there by you
[16:54] <theblazehen> Maaz tell gremble you forked ibid from git right?
[16:54] <Maaz> theblazehen: Sure, I'll tell gremble on freenode
[17:02] <Kilos> the original ibid is at launchpad
[17:09] <gremble> theblazehen: Ya, it was I direct fork
[17:09] <theblazehen> ah, I used one on launchpad
[17:10] <gremble> Yours may be more stable than mine then
[17:10] <Kilos> ibid used to be very stable
[17:10] <theblazehen> yeah
[17:11] <Kilos> havent you only added the braai bit?
[17:11] <tumbleweed> it moved floum launchpad to github
[17:11] <tumbleweed> *from
[17:11] <Kilos> aha ty tumbleweed 
[17:11] <gremble> The github one seems to be having database issues
[17:11] <theblazehen> gremble: yeah
[17:11] <gremble> But I will debug it now after I made din-dins
[17:12] <tumbleweed> gremble: try an older sqlalchemy version
[17:12] <theblazehen> din-dins?
[17:12] <gremble> dinner
[17:12] <theblazehen> ah :)
[17:12] <Kilos> tumbleweed, ive installed from repos and get http://slexy.org/view/s2H08gGOTb
[17:12] <gremble> tumbleweed: may as well see what is causing the issues and see if I can fix it
[17:12] <tumbleweed> oh yes, please :)
[17:12] <tumbleweed> Kilos: yeah, ibid needs some love
[17:18] <Kilos> aw 
[17:18] <Kilos> gremble will help
[17:24] <gremble> You keep signing me up for stuff
[17:24] <gremble> :P
[17:24] <theblazehen> gremble: hah, I'm kinda bored, what else is on the list?
[17:25] <gremble> What list?
[17:25] <gremble> There is a list?
[17:25] <gremble> D:
[17:25] <gremble> :P If we are going to give ibid some love, why not check if it works with python 3?
[17:27] <Kilos> hmm...
[17:27] <Kilos> power disappeared again for a bit
[17:28] <Kilos> gremble the last one was only a maybe
[17:28] <Kilos> but this is an important one
[17:29] <tumbleweed> gremble: it doesn't. All the dependencies have to support python 3 first. It's worth investigating how many do
[17:29] <Kilos> silicon valley stole our ibid maintainer
[17:30] <tumbleweed> all of them, even
[17:30] <tumbleweed> we all live here, now
[17:30] <Kilos> eish
[17:30] <gremble> :P
[17:30] <gremble> tumbleweed: I have vac, so I will have a look. It has been 6 years since python 3 came out. So...
[17:31] <gremble> :P
[17:31] <gremble> Perhaps if I work on it long enough, silicon valley will steal me too :D
[17:31] <gremble> xD
[17:31] <tumbleweed> gremble: go easy on us. Small pull requests, and discuss big changes, first
[17:31] <tumbleweed> you'd be amazed how well that works
[17:31] <tumbleweed> my python improved a lot, from my time on ibid
[17:34] <gremble> I already did one, to add the braai functionality. I would probably do them in a similar fashion. A pull request for something significant like that.
[17:35] <Kilos> Squirm: you here?
[17:35] <tumbleweed> I just saw that, thanks
[18:09] <theblazehen> gremble: "<gremble> You keep signing me up for stuff"
[18:16] <Kilos> hahaha
[18:16] <Kilos> gremble youre young and need a good push
[18:17] <theblazehen> Kilos: I'm also (kinda) young..
[18:17] <Kilos> well dont i push you as well?
[18:17] <theblazehen> Maybe..
[18:17] <Kilos> hmm...
[18:19] <Kilos> i dont know if you are younger than gremble , he either didnt tell, or i forgot
[18:20] <Kilos> oh theblazehen you know how to read logs from here
[18:20] <theblazehen> Kilos: I got quassel running, so I just ctrl-f
[18:20] <theblazehen> Unless you wanna make fun app to do with logs?
[18:20] <Kilos> look at the links maaz gave after the meet on the last meets  minutes or something
[18:20] <theblazehen> How young is gremble?
[18:20] <theblazehen> kk, I'll get a look
[18:21] <Kilos> the agenda one the pro needs
[18:21] <theblazehen> The log?
[18:21] <theblazehen> When was meeting?
[18:21] <Kilos> at the end of meets the bot gives links to minutes and agenda and so on i think
[18:22] <theblazehen> yeah, so what you need?
[18:22] <Kilos> last tuesday in last month
[18:22] <Kilos> agenda link and minutes link please
[18:22] <theblazehen> kk
[18:22] <Kilos> ty
[18:22] <theblazehen> 25 Nov right?
[18:22] <Kilos> sounds right ya
[18:22] <Kilos> oh ya its still in the topic
[18:23] <theblazehen> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20141125
[18:23] <theblazehen> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/11/25/%23ubuntu-za.html just search what you need there
[18:24] <Kilos> looking ty
[18:25] <Kilos> aw it doesnt show. after close meeting command the bot doesnt give there what he posts here
[18:25] <theblazehen> ah..
[18:26] <Kilos> inetpro: agenda will be mainly about the re-verification imo
[18:32] <Kilos> hmm...
[18:57] <gremble> Lame. My tooth just broke
[18:58] <theblazehen> ouch
[19:19] <Kilos> oh my
[19:20] <Kilos> is it eina gremble ?
[19:22] <gremble> Not any more
[19:23] <gremble> But it does mean that I should go see a dentist with money that I don't have haha
[19:32] <Kilos> eish
[19:32] <Kilos> you can keep the pain down with oil of cloves
[19:32] <Kilos> i dont know if you can still buy it at chemists
[19:32] <Kilos> also toothache essence i think has oil of cloves in
[19:32] <gremble> It doesn't actually hurt.
[19:33] <charl> good evening
[19:33] <Kilos> thats good then chew on other side
[19:33] <charl> how are you fine folks doing
[19:33] <gremble> Hey charl 
[19:33] <Kilos> hi charl 
[19:33] <charl> hi gremble 
[19:33] <charl> hi Kilos 
[19:37] <charl> theblazehen: have you taken a look at williebot? quite a nice one
[19:38] <Kilos> dont distract them charl  they working on ibid
[19:38] <theblazehen> charl: only in passing, ty for suggestion
[19:38] <charl> ah
[19:38] <theblazehen> Kilos: I actually just got into bed..
[19:39] <charl> i use it on some other channels, very good
[19:39] <charl> in bed and still on irc ... :P
[19:39] <theblazehen> charl: yeah... :p
[19:40] <Kilos> haha
[19:40] <charl> nono, go sleep :P
[19:40] <charl> schlaffenzeit
[19:40] <charl> schlafenszeit sorry
[19:40] <gremble> Nein
[19:41] <charl> NEIN!!!
[19:41] <charl> :D
[19:41] <gremble> Du est Schmetterlinger!
[19:41] <gremble> haha
[19:41] <gremble> I don't really speak german
[19:41] <gremble> :P
[19:41] <charl> that was clear... :D
[19:41] <charl> du bist ein schmetterling
[19:41] <gremble> haha
[19:42] <gremble> Why would I want to call someone a butterfly?
[19:42] <gremble> You shouldn't be so silly
[19:42] <charl> a nice thing to say to a girl ?
[19:42] <charl> not that strange actually
[19:42] <gremble> In german? I would probably terrify her instead
[19:42] <charl> doesn't sound strange to me but then again i'm not german
[19:52] <inetpro> Kilos: what you get at the end of the meeting is not the Agenda but the minutes in three different formats
[19:52] <inetpro> JSON, TXT or HTML
[19:53] <inetpro> actually the URL to the minutes in those different formats
[19:55] <inetpro> JSON = JavaScript Object Notation
[19:55] <inetpro> used primarily to transmit data between a server and web application, as an alternative to XML
[19:55] <inetpro> the others you should know
[19:59] <inetpro> what I need is for anyone - usually done by the chair but could really be anyone - to create the Agenda for the next meeting before I link it in the topic
[19:59] <inetpro> anyone with OP rights can set the topic
[20:01] <inetpro> hmm...
[20:01]  * inetpro just talking to his self again?
[20:06] <gremble> DUnno
[20:06] <gremble> :P
[20:08] <gremble> Does anyone know what the Agenda is for the next meeting?
[20:09] <inetpro> gremble: the Agenda seems to be around the re-verification
[20:11] <Kilos> hmm...
[20:11] <inetpro> I guess it is not a normal monthly meeting
[20:11] <Kilos> inetpro: cant you do the agenda thing
[20:11] <inetpro> Kilos: sorry, life getting in the way
[20:11] <Kilos> we meet here and gather peeps to go with to #ubuntu-meeting
[20:12] <Kilos> again?
[20:12] <Kilos> sjoe
[20:12] <Kilos> nuvolari: ping
[20:13] <charl> for those of you with internet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHTLkRnA4sA
[20:13] <charl> # The Daily Show with Jon Stewart # Spot the Africa (December 5th 2014)
[20:13] <Kilos> the verification thing is only at 22.00
[20:15] <Kilos> hi magespawn fix it
[20:16] <charl> genius that video
[20:16] <magespawn> hi Kilos, fix what?
[20:16] <magespawn> hi charl
[20:16] <charl> hi magespawn 
[20:16] <Kilos> lol the agenda for next meeting on the 16th
[20:16] <inetpro> so Kilos, just go create that Agenda page yourself man
[20:16] <Kilos> link?
[20:17] <magespawn> i still need to add my testimony to the page as well
[20:17] <magespawn> hi inetpro
[20:17] <Kilos> ya mage do it
[20:17] <inetpro> in stead of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20141125 just make it https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20141216
[20:17] <inetpro> simple as that
[20:18] <magespawn> people all still awake, this late
[20:18] <Kilos> hmm it says this page doesnt exist yet
[20:18] <Kilos> ya im falling asleep and now pro revving me
[20:18] <inetpro> then click to edit the page for 20141125 and copy and paste the relevant code into the new page
[20:19] <Kilos> code from where ?
[20:19] <Kilos> sjoe
[20:19] <gremble> charl: that was a beautiful video
[20:19] <gremble> :P
[20:19] <inetpro> Kilos: you have edited the agenda before, haven't you?
[20:19] <Kilos> eish
[20:19] <Kilos> never
[20:19] <inetpro> ai!
[20:19] <Kilos> im the greeter bot here
[20:20] <inetpro> why is it that people stumble when it comes to editing wiki pages?
[20:20] <charl> gremble: i thouht so too
[20:20] <charl> thought
[20:21] <gremble> Lol someone urinated in the comment section though
[20:21] <gremble> :P
[20:22] <Kilos> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20141216#preview
[20:22] <Kilos> theres a new page
[20:22] <charl> i never read youtube comments
[20:22] <inetpro> Kilos: cool
[20:23] <Kilos> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20141216#preview
[20:23] <Kilos> now its got some stuff in
[20:23] <Kilos> is that what you needed
[20:24] <inetpro> Kilos: now at what time did you guys agree to have the next meeting?
[20:24] <Kilos> we have not agreed. first needed the validation time
[20:24] <Kilos> thats is at 22.00
[20:24] <inetpro> Kilos: be careful with "preview"
[20:25] <Kilos> ai!
[20:25] <inetpro> in the topic I usually put the time
[20:25] <Kilos> ok so lets decide now what time to meet here
[20:26] <Kilos> ai!
[20:26]  * inetpro can change the time any time
[20:26] <Kilos> we can meet here at 21.00 imo
[20:27] <gremble> Is the meeting time not the usual time for a meeting?
[20:27] <Kilos> one our to tell me not what to say
[20:27] <inetpro> can not make the decision here between just the two of us
[20:27] <gremble> Anyone that want to go to #ubuntu-meeting an do so
[20:27] <Kilos> nope gremble we just meet here to then go to #ubuntu-meeting as a team
[20:27] <Kilos> yes we can inetpro 
[20:28] <inetpro> ai!
[20:28] <Kilos> we set the time and others will fall in
[20:28] <Kilos> the fly will prefer 21100 too i think
[20:28] <inetpro> ok, tell me when you made the decision
[20:28] <Kilos> 2100
[20:29] <Kilos> 21.00 here and 21.55 to 3ubuntu-meeting
[20:29] <Kilos> ai!
[20:29] <Kilos> #ubuntu-meeting
[20:30] <Kilos> and you still gotta do your testimonial inetpro gremble 
[20:30] <Kilos> gremble: you getting roped into more stuff now
[20:30] <Kilos> haha
[20:30] <gremble> I cannot do an ubuntu testimonial D:
[20:30] <gremble> maaz: help
[20:30] <Maaz> gremble: I can help you with: looking things up, remembering things, delivering messages, decisions, games, monitoring things, browsing the internet, conversions, silly fun stuff, calculations, system administration, software development and south african stuff.
[20:30] <Maaz> Ask me "help me with ..." for more details.
[20:31] <gremble> maas South African
[20:31] <gremble> Maaz help me with south african
[20:31] <Maaz> gremble: I use the following features for south african stuff: lotto
[20:31] <Maaz> Ask me "how do I use ..." for more details.
[20:31] <gremble> Maaz help me with monitor
[20:31] <Maaz> gremble: I use the following features for monitoring things: coffee, http, icecast, meeting and ping
[20:31] <Maaz> Ask me "how do I use ..." for more details.
[20:31] <gremble> Sorry for the spam
[20:31] <gremble> :x
[20:32] <Kilos> np but what i normally do is pm the bot
[20:33] <gremble> Oh. I didn't think about that
[20:33] <gremble> Sorry
[20:33] <gremble> haha
[20:33] <Kilos> gremble: why cant you do a testimonial??
[20:33] <gremble> I don't use ubuntu? Don't you actually have to use it to write about it?
[20:34] <Kilos> say you are new here and are being roped into all kinds of stuff
[20:34] <Kilos> man you use linux dont you
[20:34] <Kilos> lots of our guys use other systems
[20:34] <Kilos> i am using elementaryos as well
[20:35] <Kilos> nuvolari: uses mint
[20:35] <gremble> Where do I find the page to write a testimonial?
[20:35] <Kilos> lemme see
[20:35] <gremble> Both of those are derivatives of Ubuntu
[20:35] <gremble> :P
[20:35] <Kilos> Maaz: re-verification
[20:35] <Maaz> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/ReVerificationApplication2014
[20:36] <Kilos> you need to have a launchpad account to login with to be able to edit i think
[20:36] <Kilos> im not sure, i battle everytime
[20:36] <Kilos> i have also used tinycorelinux
[20:36] <Kilos> tell me thats a derivitive
[20:37] <Kilos> derivative
[20:37] <gremble> Something that is made from something else
[20:38] <gremble> elementaryOS works exactly like Ubuntu because Ubuntu is its engine
[20:38] <gremble> It just has another paint job
[20:38] <Kilos> and tinycore
[20:39] <Kilos> stop trying to talk your way out of this. you are now part of us
[20:39] <inetpro> good night
[20:39] <charl> good night inetpro 
[20:40] <Kilos> night my pro
[20:40] <Kilos> sleep tight
[20:50] <Kilos> so magespawn and gremble i still dont see testimonials from you
[20:50] <gremble> I'm still trying to log in
[20:50] <Kilos> i need to nag joe knock too
[20:50] <Kilos> oh my
[20:50] <gremble> This site was developed by a spastic gorilla
[20:50] <Kilos> hahaha
[20:51] <gremble> what is a name for things that include coffee, tea, braai etc
[20:51] <Kilos> remember during the week we try find who owns it so we can have it fixed
[20:51] <Kilos> lekker goed
[20:52] <gremble> Ah yes, we can call it treats
[20:52] <gremble> thanks
[20:52] <Kilos> the bot dont make tea
[20:52] <gremble> It will soon
[20:52] <Kilos> Maaz: tea please
[20:52] <Maaz> As soon as the kettle boils Kilos I will pour boiling water into your cup if you have the tea bag in already
[20:52] <gremble> Oh, it does
[20:52] <gremble> :P
[20:53] <Kilos> i added that but he dont say tea ready
[20:53] <gremble> AH
[21:00] <magespawn> i am off good night all
[21:00] <gremble> Cheers magespawn 
[21:00] <Kilos> sjoe
[21:01] <gremble> hmm
[21:02] <Kilos> Maaz: hmm
[21:02] <Maaz> hmm... is often used to try make others believe one is actually thinking
[21:10] <Kilos> im just gonna hotplug a ps2 keyboard and hope it dont crash me
[21:12] <Kilos> hmm...
[21:12] <Kilos> now to find the sticky keys again
[21:12] <gremble> The ones on which you spilt coke?
[21:13] <gremble> I think I am going to go to sleep now
[21:13] <gremble> Cheers fellas
[21:14] <Kilos> lol i cant afford coke
[21:14] <Kilos> and dont bring teas near pc
[21:19] <Kilos> oh my
[21:33] <Kilos> night all
[21:33] <Kilos> sleep tight