[00:01] <Mega1> ben64 this i know
[00:01] <Mega1> i only need to use it omce
[00:01] <daftykins> Mega1: SSH in as user then "sudo -i"
[00:01] <dariuss> Mega1: http://www.ehowstuff.com/how-to-allow-root-to-use-ssh-on-ubuntu-14-04/
[00:01] <daftykins> that's terrible advice
[00:02] <Vera_> Bashing-om: Booted agaun. During booting/whateveritiscalled between the Ubuntu-logo with the flowers under, and the actual desktop showing, it gave me a short flash with weird colours in 8-bit chaos, but afterwards the desktop showed and looked very normal indeed! :D
[00:02] <Vera_> Bashing-om: Do you think I should be concerned with the litle flash, or just leave it be as long as it behaves normally?
[00:03] <dariuss> The are occassionally things that are extremely difficult to do without direct root access.  The risk can be very relative to the environment.
[00:04] <Vera_> Bashing-om: Even Chrome and Netflix worked without diagonals! It's amazing! :D
[00:07] <Bashing-om> Vera_: If it works ! let's leave well enough alone .
[00:09] <bubbasaures> !cookie | Bashing-om
[00:10] <bubbasaures> tenacious too
[00:11] <atlantis> hey did i not say one would join
[00:11] <Bashing-om> bubbasaures: Cookies are good ! .. chocolate chip prefered . Sure pleased I got on the right track .
[00:11] <atlantis> and two would quit
[00:11] <atlantis> hi
[00:11] <bubbasaures> That was the heroes journey withe ogres and all, "are you sure that's right" from the greek chorus
[00:11] <atlantis> it was a yeh k
[00:11] <atlantis> well sorry to spill your beans
[00:11] <atlantis> did you have an ubuntu question
[00:12] <atlantis> lol
[00:14] <Vera_> Bashing-om: I'd like to marry you, but I'm already taken (and my husband protested at me typing this) and you live on the other side of the freaking world, so that could be a bit difficult but THANK YOU!!!
[00:15] <erasmus> also most women on irc have big bottoms.
[00:15] <Vera_> Bashing-om: That was amazingly kind and generous of you, thank you so, so much!
[00:16] <daftykins> erasmus: inappropriate
[00:16] <Bashing-om> Vera_: Quite welcome, I too have another half ( she says she deserves a sister wife, but I do not accept that ). Recon I get a gold star beside my name in my Lord's " book of life " ?
[00:16] <Vera_> A HUGE goldstar with glitter and built-in fireworks! :D
[00:17] <Vera_> Bashing-om: A HUGE goldstar with glitter and built-in fireworks! :D
[00:18] <Bashing-om> Vera_: LOL. enjoy .. we find our next adventure, hope you learned a lot and are the more comfortable with this our operating system by choice .
[00:19] <Enissay> How to copy many files with names starting with 007B ?
[00:20] <Enissay> cp /path/007* /dest    ?
[00:20] <Enissay> is that right
[00:20] <Jordan_U> Enissay: Yes, that should work.
[00:20] <Enissay> I'm afraid of doing it wroong and maybe deleting em xD
[00:20] <Enissay> thks <3
[00:20] <Vera_> Bashing-om: I am definetly more comfortable. Right now I just rebooted again, entered BIOS-setup and changed the sound settings to enable the sound (which was missing) all by myself! So great learning curve, as you said! ay hi to your lovely wife and thanks for borrowing you! :) Good night! :)
[00:21] <curiousx> Enissay: if you are afraid do: echo cp /path/007* /dest
[00:21] <Jordan_U> Enissay: One good way to get an idea of how a command's globs will be expanded is to add "echo" before your command as a quick test.
[00:21] <Enissay> oh, true, I forgot about this one... thks again <3
[00:23] <bubbasaures> erasmus, You don't have to have the amp at 11 here.
[00:23] <erasmus> hehe what a great song
[00:23] <erasmus> I'm impressed you got that.
[00:23] <bubbasaures> ;)
[00:26] <Enissay> one more question: I have a huge number of files, how to copy N files at once having no common name string (each time I have to make some tests, so I can't copy all at once)
[00:27] <Enissay> I have exactly 4100+ files and I want to copy/move 100 of them each time
[00:27] <Enissay> is it possible ?
[00:27] <Jordan_U> Enissay: With scripting, yes.
[00:28] <Enissay> yea I see :(
[00:29] <Jordan_U> Enissay: What are you actually trying to accomplish?
[00:30] <Enissay> as I said, I have 4100+ files, and I need to move them to another directory in parts (N files every time)
[00:30] <Enissay> Another question: can I use regex with cp ?
[00:31] <Enissay> to filter names
[00:31] <Jordan_U> Enissay: Why do you need to move them in parts? What tests are you running?
[00:32] <YamakasY> guys with which options do you mount nfs ?
[00:34] <Enissay> well, it's some program's data... the program crashed and couldnt be launched anymore... when I deleted the folder containing these data, the program ran correctly... Now i'm trying to bring these data back, each time re-launch the app in order to check if everything is loaded correctly...
[00:35] <ubuntu_> hi
[00:35] <Enissay> I hope it's clear xD
[00:36] <OerHeks> YamakasY, this should work : servername:dir /mntpoint nfs rw,hard,intr 0 0 >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo#NFS_Client
[00:37] <ubuntu_> hola
[00:37] <Enissay> Jordan_U, I found this http://unix.stackexchange.com/q/12976/62874  exactly what I want =)
[00:37] <Enissay> thanks again <3
[00:37] <Jordan_U> Enissay: A binary search might be faster than that, but here is an example script: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9389461/
[00:38] <YamakasY> OerHeks: yap, but I have some issues with mkdir() and PHP... I think it are rights
[00:39] <Jordan_U> Enissay: That answer is aweful, you should never parse the output of "ls" in a script.
[00:40] <Jordan_U> Enissay: Also note that it doesn't really cover the case of what to do for the next 100 files, only the first 100.
[00:41] <Enissay> Jordan_U, exactly... Please feel free to post this answer too... it could help too many noobz like me later :)
[00:43] <Enissay> Jordan_U, trying to understand... it looks like the only thing to change for me is the destination path right ?
[00:43] <acid_> hi all, wahts up ?
[00:44] <Jordan_U> Enissay: That and possibly the glob, ('*').
[00:44] <Enissay> Jordan_U, ow, true, the source...
[00:45] <Jordan_U> Enissay: I meant to remove the '/tmp/' from '/tmp/destination' for clarity, it was only there so that I could actually test run the script.
[00:46] <Enissay> Jordan_U, yeah, got it
[00:46] <Enissay> Jordan_U, one last thing: why using -ge instead of -eq or == ?
[00:46] <Enissay> or is it the same
[00:46] <Enissay> Jordan_U, greater than
[00:46] <Enissay> y@my bad
[00:47] <Enissay> or equal xD
[00:47] <ablest1980> hi
[00:47] <ablest1980> everyone has ubuntu?
[00:47] <daftykins> not everyone.
[00:47] <quidnunc> How do I move grub from sda1 to sdc ?
[00:47] <Enissay> well, i dont... lol
[00:48] <Jordan_U> quidnunc: What do you mean by "move grub"? What is your end goal.
[00:48] <quidnunc> grub-install will do the install part, how do I remove the original grub?
[00:48] <ablest1980> play cs?
[00:48] <quidnunc> Jordan_U: I have a new root drive I want to use as my boot disk
[00:48] <Ben64> Enissay: if you don't have ubuntu, you should not be using this channel for support
[00:49] <ablest1980> got x chat?
[00:49] <quidnunc> Jordan_U: Is it enough to remove the boot flag?
[00:49] <Jordan_U> quidnunc: No, neither grub nor your BIOS cares about boot flags.
[00:49] <daftykins> Ben64: psst... might want help installing.
[00:49] <Enissay> Ben64, I'm working on an ubuntu server... and yes, I know... I'm not here by mistake xD
[00:49] <Ben64> daftykins: if you scroll up, the question was nothing about it
[00:50] <Ben64> Enissay: so you do have ubuntu :|
[00:50] <Jordan_U> quidnunc: Why not just install grub's boot sector to all of the drives that your BIOS might decide to boot from?
[00:50] <quidnunc> Jordan_U: I might remove or format the old disk
[00:50] <quidnunc> Jordan_U: But I guess that doesn't matter
[00:50] <Jordan_U> quidnunc: Exactly :)
[00:51] <Enissay> Ben64, not on my local pc... I'm just using an ssh connection to my server... so No and Yes... or whatever, nvm xD
[00:51] <quidnunc> Jordan_U: Will Ubuntu do the correct thing on updates (will it update grub on each drive? I'm not clear on how grub works)
[00:51] <Bashing-om> quidnunc: In the event of removing a hard disk, a simple matter to " sudo update-grub " for the change to propogate .
[00:53] <Jordan_U> Enissay: All of those would work. In any programing language I am personally warry of == for numerical comparisons, as then I have to think about all of the possible ways $i could be incremented twice in one iteration, leading the loop to go on forever rather than stopping at my intended value. And technically in bash '==' is for string comparisons, though again a string comparison would work in this case as well, it's ...
[00:53] <Jordan_U> ... just a little odd.
[00:54] <Jordan_U> quidnunc: It will only do the correct thing if you configure the grub-pc package with the correct install devices selected. You can do this by running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc".
[00:55] <quidnunc> Jordan_U: Thanks
[00:55] <Jordan_U> quidnunc: You're welcome
[00:55] <Enissay> Jordan_U, I see... thks again :)
[00:55] <Jordan_U> Enissay: You're welcome :)
[00:59] <Vino> Earlier a window popped up with a message that said something like, "the applet nm-applet has stopped working. [delete] [don't delete]" I didn't know what it was so I deleted it, turns out it was the network manager applet and now I can't connect to the wireless, or even over a wired connection. Any ideas?
[01:02] <Jordan_U> Vino: Are you using Unity or another desktop environment?
[01:02] <Vino> this ubuntu is somewhat old, it's using whatever came before unity
[01:03] <Jordan_U> Vino: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[01:03] <Vino> one second let me find it...
[01:05] <ningu> I have a 2008 macbook currently running ubuntu desktop 14.04. I want this laptop to function as a media server, so I'm wondering if it might make more sense to run ubuntu server on it. but then can I still control things like e.g. what happens when the laptop lid closes?
[01:06] <timvisher-xubunt> is there a service that is responsible for trackpad input?
[01:06] <timvisher-xubunt> or some way to jiggle the trackpad handle other than restarting the box?
[01:07] <bastidrazor> ningu: install the services you want. the only benefit of going to server from desktop is less load.
[01:07] <timvisher-xubunt> ningu: there won't really be much of a difference i don't thiink
[01:07] <Vino> Jordan_U, 10.04, and i'm on a lenovo t60
[01:07] <ningu> bastidrazor: yeah... since it's an old machine I am thinking it might run a little better. but you may be right that it doesn't make a huge difference
[01:07] <Jordan_U> timvisher-xubunt: What is your end goal / problem?
[01:07] <sb_> hi
[01:07] <timvisher-xubunt> and if you're more comfortable with a gui then just go with that
[01:08] <Richard82> clear
[01:08] <Richard82> hi
[01:08] <ningu> timvisher-xubunt: yeah, I am considering that
[01:08] <timvisher-xubunt> Jordan_U: sometimes, when i unplug my usb mouse, my trackpad no longer responds
[01:08] <timvisher-xubunt> i typically then have to restart my machine to get it back
[01:08] <ningu> the main benefit of running the server I think would be more free memory, but I dunno how much running X really uses
[01:08] <Jordan_U> Vino: Support for the Desktop packages in 10.04 ended last year. You should upgrade to at least 12.04.
[01:08] <timvisher-xubunt> i'm assuming there's some service that i should be able to restart
[01:09] <timvisher-xubunt> ningu: you could always disable x by default, but that's a little like installing server and then installing x on top of it.
[01:09] <Vino> yeah i should :\ i've been putting that off. does that mean i'm out of luck?
[01:09] <sb_> bye
[01:09] <Richard82> I have a problem with the command line tool "diff".   In the past,  "diff -r dir1 dir2" gave a me recursive list of all changed files while *showing* the differences!   After the last upgrade && dist-upgrade,  I receive an output telling me  "Common subdirectories: dir1 dir2"  instead of showing the changed files
[01:09] <timvisher-xubunt> is your goal to run something like plex that does transcoding on the fly or more to serve static media files?
[01:09] <ningu> you can't go from the desktop install to the server install without reinstalling, I assume
[01:09] <ningu> timvisher-xubunt: plex
[01:10] <Jordan_U> Vino: If I help you get connected to the internet will you promise to then upgrade to 12.04?
[01:10] <Vino> Jordan_U, haha okay :]
[01:10] <timvisher-xubunt> ningu: ah. well the macbook might strain a little bit, but fwiw i have a comparably powered ultrabook at the moment and am running xubuntu 14.04 with xfce and in most circumstances my load is hovering around .5 to 1
[01:10] <KEEm> EriC
[01:10] <KEEm> EriC^can you help me 2 minutes?
[01:10] <ningu> timvisher-xubunt: yeah it seems decent, it isn't perfectly suited for plex I suppose but it does work
[01:11] <Jordan_U> Vino: Open a terminal and try simply running "nm-applet", hopefully that will (temporarily) get your network manager applet back.
[01:11] <hellomiakoda> ick dapergirl
[01:11] <timvisher-xubunt> of course i'm not doing much transcoding. my plex server is a ~2010 MBP running yosemite, so a significantly more power hungry os and it runs perfectly well, even when transcoding 1080p
[01:11] <Vino> yeah i've tried running it manually, it doesn't appear
[01:12] <Vino> but it says it's still installed
[01:12] <ningu> timvisher-xubunt: yeah I intentionally put ubuntu on it and not yosemite for that reason, for all I know though it would run better under os x :)
[01:12] <Jordan_U> Vino: Ok, please connect your computer via ethernet then run "ifconfig" and pastebin the output (either by copying the output to a flash drive, or by taking a picture of your screen with your phone or similar).
[01:12] <timvisher-xubunt> ningu: were the 2008 models 64 bit?
[01:13] <Jordan_U> !screenshot | Vino
[01:13] <ningu> timvisher-xubunt: it can run yosemite so I assume so. this is late 2008, first unibody series
[01:13] <timvisher-xubunt> my main home theater box is a 2006 macbook which requires downsampling to 3 MBps or it just chokes :)
[01:13] <ningu> hehe
[01:13] <Vino> Jordan_U, standby
[01:13] <timvisher-xubunt> but that's running the best os x release evar!
[01:14] <ningu> lion?
[01:14] <timvisher-xubunt> snow leopard ;)
[01:14] <timvisher-xubunt> i still miss it sometimes. :)
[01:14] <timvisher-xubunt> Jordan_U: does my problem make any sense?
[01:15] <ningu> timvisher-xubunt: so you don't have any experience running macbooks under ubuntu? I've noticed that even though I disabled the suspend etc. sometimes it takes a little while to "wake up" when I connect via ssh over the local network
[01:15] <daftykins> timvisher-xubunt: please try and keep the off topic chat to a zero
[01:15] <timvisher-xubunt> daftykins: certainly
[01:16] <timvisher-xubunt> ningu: only ever in virtualbox
[01:16] <timvisher-xubunt> although usually the 'wake up' is more the disk spinning up than anything.
[01:16] <ningu> yeah that could be it.
[01:16] <timvisher-xubunt> especially in those old boxes they had slow disks
[01:16] <timvisher-xubunt> ningu: have you disabled the hard disk sleeping?
[01:17] <ningu> probably not... dunno if that's a good idea though
[01:17] <ningu> would rather get as much life out of it as possible
[01:17] <timvisher-xubunt> yeah. i suppose that would reduce the life of the disk
[01:17] <Vino> Jordan_U, I don't have a flash drive lying around, here's a manual transcription: http://pastebin.com/qF4T3YkQ I copied that from a machine that works and replaced the values with the actual ones, so the hw address is wrong but everything else should be right
[01:17] <ningu> it's old already :)
[01:17] <timvisher-xubunt> yeah. i'm amazed at their longevity
[01:17] <ningu> I use an external usb drive for the media
[01:19] <Vino> Jordan_U, more info: I can't ping my router ip even though i'm connected with a wire. also: wlan has all the same stuff
[01:21] <Jordan_U> Vino: sudo dhclient eth0
[01:25] <Jordan_U> Vino: If it succeeds you should have an internet connection.
[01:29] <Vino> hey sorry that computer is in another room. it says "no dhcp offers received, no working leases on persistent database sleeping"
[01:29] <Vino> Jordan_U
[01:30] <Jordan_U> Vino: It seems like your problem is more with what caused nm-applet to stop working in the first place than with your agreeing to remove it.
[01:30] <Vino> okay. that seems likely
[01:31] <Vino> i guess... reinstall the applet?
[01:33] <Jordan_U> Vino: I assume you've already tried simply rebooting?
[01:33] <Vino> oh yes, many times
[01:33] <timvisher-xubunt> is there a way to reload trackpad drivers / discover what they are?
[01:33] <Vino> a lot of internet pages claim their problem was solved by rebooting, but not this guy
[01:34] <timvisher-xubunt> the device in the xfce4-setting-manager -> Mouse and Trackpad is SynPS/2 Synaptics Touchpad if that's of any help
[01:34] <Jordan_U> Vino: Does you ethernet NIC have any lights on it? If so, what lights are currently shown?
[01:36] <timvisher-xubunt> plugging my usb mouse back in still works. i have no idea at what point the trackpad stops working yet though
[01:36] <Diegao> Hi, I tried to update my python on 14.04 to py3.4.2, but I think I messed up. I cant even open the update manager "from gi.repository import Gtk ImportError: No module named 'gi'"
[01:37] <Jordan_U> Diegao: How did you try to update python and why?
[01:37] <Diegao> command-not-found its not working also
[01:37] <Diegao> Jordan_U: i needed to test a bug fix
[01:37] <timvisher-xubunt> and the trackpad still doesn't work though the external mouse does
[01:37] <Diegao> Jordan_U: I compiled from the source
[01:38] <Diegao> following this instructions, http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/general/python3.html
[01:38] <Diegao> I installed all that dependencies
[01:38] <Vino> Jordan_U, HA bad ethernet cable.
[01:39] <Vino> Jordan_U, yeah i should have tried that before, sorry to waste your time. i'll make good on my promise though :)
[01:41] <raykl> hello
[01:41] <raykl> hi
[01:42] <Jordan_U> Vino: :)
[01:42] <raykl> just testing
[01:42] <raykl> new to this
[01:43] <Diegao> Jordan_U: any ideas?
[01:45] <Quoexl> hello everyone
[01:45] <tetrapixel> Hey.
[01:46] <Quoexl> I have a strange thing going on, I have an amd x2 box that ran unattended owncloud via the network at my shop, I bring it home, do a reinstall of 12.04 server which it was running before and it will not dhcp on install, just to check the network cards I installed windows and both worked perfectly, any ideas?
[01:47] <Jordan_U> Diegao: That is not the proper way to install any piece of software, and especially python. Uninstall your compiled python, and any other dependencies you installed and you *might* get a working system back.
[01:48] <Diegao> Jordan_U: how can I uninstall them? apt-get purge?
[01:49] <Jordan_U> Diegao: No, the problem with installing from source this way is that the package manager has no knowlege of these files at all. "sudo make uninstall" *might* work for some of them, run from within their source directory.
[01:50] <Diegao> make: *** No rule to make target `uninstall'.  Stop
[01:50] <peur> are you in the working directory where this was installed?
[01:50] <Jordan_U> Diegao: It may be easier, and will certainly be less error prone, to simply re-install Ubuntu.
[01:50] <Quoexl> you got your personal data in a seperate partition?
[01:50] <Diegao> yes, inside the source folder
[01:51] <Diegao> Jordan_U: yes, but dist-upgrade gets nothing
[01:52] <UTL> Here we go... Just changed the build.prop on my Nook HD+ so I could get the Ubuntu Dual Boot app. I'm fooling it into thinking it's a Nexus 10 (manta image). Follow me on #ubuntu-touch if you're interested.
[01:52] <Quoexl> Diegao: what version are you on?
[01:52] <guest-juZLjD> Hello
[01:52] <Diegao> Quoexl: 14.04
[01:52] <guest-juZLjD> I have an Ubuntu user account which I can't use anymore, can anyone help me?
[01:53] <EriC^^> guest-juZLjD: you can't login?
[01:53] <guest-juZLjD> I tried a beta version of Firefox Mozilla Aurora, and after I tried to enter a language pack link in the search bar, suddenly all my programs and task bars disappeared
[01:53] <Quoexl> Diegao: do you have your /home directory in a seperate partition?
[01:53] <guest-juZLjD> and now when I log in into my normal account, the only thing which I get is a background image.
[01:53] <guest-juZLjD> And when I right-click, I get a useless dropdown menu with buttons which don't work.
[01:53] <Quoexl> guest-juZLjD: a BETA version and you dont expect bugs?
[01:53] <EriC^^> guest-juZLjD: can you try the guest account and see if it works?
[01:53] <guest-juZLjD> Quoexl: I except bugs, but not such big ones that my account becomes useless.
[01:54] <Diegao> Quoexl: kinda, I created symlink to another partitions to some folders like downloads, documents that used to be big
[01:54] <guest-juZLjD> EriC^^: I 'm logged in in my guest account right now. After upgrading it works fine.
[01:54] <Diegao> this way I dont have my ssd full
[01:54] <guest-juZLjD> I could do adduser and change my main account to a new one, the problem is that adduser doesn't work neither
[01:54] <guest-juZLjD> I get the following error:
[01:54] <Quoexl> Diegao: I'd recommend a reinstall if you dont have a million things installed
[01:54] <EriC^^> guest-juZLjD: ok, try to rename ~/.config and see if your account works again
[01:55] <Diegao> =/
[01:55] <guest-juZLjD> EriC^^: How do I do that?
[01:55] <Diegao> I have lots of development environment installed =/
[01:55] <Quoexl> Diegao: except THIS time take 30% of your space for / and 68% for /home
[01:55] <EriC^^> guest-juZLjD: press ctrl+alt+f1, login, then type mv ~/.config ~/.config.old
[01:55] <Quoexl> then next reinstall all your data is safe
[01:56] <w23rdst> Hello is deftykins in here?
[01:56] <EriC^^> * daftykins
[01:56] <Diegao> Quoexl: what you mean?
[01:56] <timvisher-xubunt> there's some `lost sync at byte...` messages in syslog here that correspond to the physical interface of the trackpad: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9390222/
[01:56] <guest-juZLjD> EriC^^: Ok, let me try now
[01:56] <Diegao> cant't i modify some file so the dist-upgrade recognize the new versions of ubuntu?
[01:57] <Diegao> so I could upgrade via command line
[01:57] <compdoc> upgrade from an older version of ubuntu?
[01:57] <Diegao> compdoc: yes
[01:57] <compdoc> you dont use dist-upgrade for that
[01:58] <compdoc> dist-upgrade os for the current distrobution
[01:58] <Diegao> do-release-upgrade?
[01:58] <compdoc> *distribution
[01:58] <compdoc> yes, do that one
[01:58] <Diegao> not working =/
[01:58] <Diegao> from DistUpgrade.DistUpgradeVersion import VERSION ImportError: No module named 'DistUpgrade'
[01:59] <w23rdst> Deftykins, please help me, buddy.
[01:59] <w23rdst> Are you in here?
[01:59] <Diegao> compdoc: any other option to upgrade from command line/
[01:59] <Diegao> ?
[01:59] <Ben64> Diegao: what exactly are you typing, and what version of ubuntu
[02:00] <guest-gV6sLY> EriC^^: It didn't work, so I had to reboot again.
[02:00] <Diegao> Ben64: $ sudo do-release-upgrade
[02:00] <Diegao> Ben64: ubuntu 14.04
[02:00] <Quoexl> w23rdst: type in the first 5 letters of his name and hit tab, if it fills in, he's here
[02:00] <EriC^^> guest-gV6sLY: ok, try to rename ~/.gconf
[02:00] <timvisher-xubunt> there it is. `sudo rmmod psmouse && sudo modprobe psmouse`. thanks http://xpapad.wordpress.com/2009/09/09/dealing-with-mouse-and-touchpad-freezes-in-linux/
[02:00] <Diegao> Ben64: I compiled a new python3 version that messed up
[02:00] <EriC^^> guest-gV6sLY: if it doesn't work, type sudo service lightdm restart to get the login screen again
[02:01] <Ben64> Diegao: and upgrading to 14.10 will fix that?
[02:01] <azizLIGHT> how can i fix this without windows: Error mounting /dev/sdd1 at /media/aziz/3F8C9F1C7FC6BDB1: Command-line `mount -t "ntfs" -o "uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid,uid=1000,gid=1000,dmask=0077,fmask=0177" "/dev/sdd1" "/media/aziz/3F8C9F1C7FC6BDB1"' exited with non-zero exit status 13: $MFTMirr does not match $MFT (record 0). Failed to mount '/dev/sdd1': Input/output error NTFS is either inconsistent, or there is a
[02:01] <azizLIGHT> hardware fault, or it's a SoftRAID/FakeRAID hardware. In the first case run chkdsk /f on Windows then reboot into Windows twice. The usage of the /f parameter is very important! If the device is a SoftRAID/FakeRAID then first activate it and mount a different device under the /dev/mapper/ directory, (e.g. /dev/mapper/nvidia_eahaabcc1). Please see the 'dmraid' documentation for more details.
[02:01] <Diegao> Ben64: I think so, at least I hope
[02:01] <w23rdst> Thanks for the tip, Quoexl . As you can see I am new to IRC.
[02:01] <Ben64> Diegao: unlikely
[02:01] <guest-gV6sLY> Ehm, there is no scroll button?
[02:01] <guest-gV6sLY> In XChat?
[02:01] <Quoexl> w23rdst: we all were once
[02:01] <Diegao> python 3.4.2 is deafult in 14.10
[02:01] <guest-gV6sLY> EriC^^: Type again what you said, I can't scroll up for some reason, I will copy it
[02:02] <Ben64> Diegao: ok? doesn't fix manually installed stuff
[02:02] <EriC^^> guest-gV6sLY: there is
[02:02] <w23rdst> You were also new at some point, Quoexl ?
[02:02] <Quoexl> w23rdst: back when breezy was out
[02:02] <guest-gV6sLY> Yes normally there is
[02:02] <guest-gV6sLY> but for me the scroll button disappeared now
[02:02] <Diegao> Ben64: any suggestions to fix it manually then?
[02:02] <EriC^^> guest-gV6sLY: you can use pageup if you want
[02:02] <Ben64> Diegao: undo what you did
[02:03] <w23rdst> Quoexl,  you are a good friend.
[02:03] <guest-gV6sLY> Renaming to ~/gconfold
[02:03] <guest-gV6sLY> is that safe?
[02:03] <w23rdst> Quoexl,  you seem like a nice guy.
[02:03] <Diegao> Ben64: I compiled the source code, make uninstall does not work
[02:03] <EriC^^> guest-gV6sLY: rename it to ~/.gconfold
[02:03] <Diegao> and specified to compile on /usr/
[02:03] <Quoexl> w23rdst: why thank you, lets take this conversation over to #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:04] <guest-gV6sLY> EriC^^: Where is it located?
[02:04] <EriC^^> guest-gV6sLY: it's in your home dir, ~/.gconf
[02:04] <w23rdst> ok Quoexl .
[02:04] <Ben64> Diegao: well, you should read the install file or readme or documentation somewhere
[02:04] <w23rdst> You are a wise man
[02:04] <azizLIGHT> am having trouble accessing a ntfs fhaslh drive
[02:04] <guest-gV6sLY> EriC^^: File doesn't exist, so I can't rename it.
[02:04] <azizLIGHT> i insert it and i get a big error
[02:05] <EriC^^> guest-gV6sLY: are you using unity?
[02:05] <guest-gV6sLY> EriC^^: I use Lubuntu
[02:05] <Ben64> azizLIGHT: you need to run the command it says to
[02:06] <EriC^^> guest-gV6sLY: it should be there
[02:06] <guest-gV6sLY> EriC^^: Supposedly it isn't
[02:07] <azizLIGHT> Ben64: how can i do that on a linux computer. it says i need to reboot windows twice??
[02:07] <EriC^^> guest-gV6sLY: try find ~ -iname ".gconf"
[02:07] <michiwend> hi
[02:07] <Ben64> azizLIGHT: that part is for the windows install partition
[02:07] <azizLIGHT> eh?
[02:08] <guest-gV6sLY> EriC^^: It gives a blank result. None.
[02:08] <EriC^^> guest-gV6sLY: ok, try to rename ~/.cache
[02:08] <azizLIGHT> what windows install partition
[02:08] <azizLIGHT> im confused
[02:08] <michiwend> im getting "can not allocate memory" errors from different processes on my ubuntu 1404 server. e.g. clamav, apt-get, amavis
[02:09] <michiwend> i do have enough memory left on the machine
[02:09] <guest-gV6sLY> Where is it located?
[02:09] <guest-gV6sLY> Again I get, doesn't exist.
[02:09] <MrSavage> Hi all I edited my xorg.conf and now all my screens are black on reboot and i can't get ctrl alt f1 to work
[02:09] <imastupidguest> moderator please : Does anyone know how to get ahold of bobweaver?
[02:10] <michiwend> http://pastebin.com/C4TycBhS
[02:10] <michiwend> output of free ^
[02:10] <imastupidguest> I can give my info to be passed along to him if that seems good
[02:10] <john38> Anybody know of a good stable ati driver
[02:10] <EriC^^> guest-gV6sLY: are you doing this from the ctrl+alt+f1?
[02:10] <guest-gV6sLY> EriC^^: Yes, should I do it somewhere else?
[02:11] <john38> Anybody know of a good stable ati driver for precise pangolin
[02:11] <EriC^^> guest-gV6sLY: no, it's odd though
[02:11] <michiwend> just tried apt-get upgrade: "FATAL -> Failed to fork."
[02:12] <Jordan_U> john38: The open source drivers for most cards are pretty stable, of course they might not be for your (as yet unspecified) hardware.
[02:12] <EriC^^> guest-gV6sLY: type id
[02:12] <john38> Jordan_U, im running ati radeon hd 4200
[02:12] <guest-gV6sLY> EriC^^: I did, but I can't copy it, so what now?
[02:12] <Bashing-om> MrSavage: Remind the channel what graphics card you have, and what driver you have installed, and from whence you installed said driver . (maybe can re-generate the Xorg.conf file ) .
[02:13] <EriC^^> guest-gV6sLY: try replacing ~ with /home/<your username>
[02:13] <MrSavage> Bashing-om: it was working perfectly find before and i know how to fix it. the problem is that I CAN'T GET INTO A TERMINAL TO FIX IT
[02:13] <timvisher-xubunt> is there a way to jiggle the key repeat rate handle in xubuntu 14.04? my usb keyboard never seems to inherit the settings until i jiggle them.
[02:13] <MrSavage> Bashing-om: the screen is black, ctrl+alt+f1 doesn't work
[02:13] <EriC^^> guest-gV6sLY: did id return your username?
[02:13] <timvisher-xubunt> MrSavage: have an external display?
[02:13] <john38> Jordan_U, what should i search for in software database
[02:13] <guest-gV6sLY> EriC^^: I get, can't move to a subdirectory of itself
[02:14] <Bashing-om> MrSavage: Try to boot from grub's recovery mode ?
[02:14] <guest-gV6sLY> EriC^^: Yes it did.
[02:14] <MrSavage> Bashing-om: how do i do that?
[02:15] <EriC^^> guest-gV6sLY: are you typing mv /home/<your username>/.cache /home/<your username>/.cacheold ?
[02:15] <Bashing-om> MrSavage: Boot to the grub boot menu -> advanced options -> recovery consol;e -> enable networking ( to mount the hard drive r/w ) -> resume normal boot.
[02:15] <teaearlgraycold> The version of libmesa I have from the repos is too old to run a game from Steam. How would I go about getting the most recent version, 10.3.3?
[02:15] <MrSavage> Bashing-om: how do i get into Grub?
[02:15] <guest-gV6sLY> EriC^^: It says that the directory doesn't exist, so it can't move it
[02:16] <guest-gV6sLY> EriC^^: Oh, wait a second
[02:16] <john38> where do i find drivers for a ati radeon hd 4200 graphics card
[02:16] <guest-gV6sLY> EriC^^: No still doesn't work
[02:16] <Bashing-om> MrSavage: Reboot and as soon as the bios screen clears, depress and hold the right shift key ( legacy MBR booting) ; EFI it is the escape key that is recognized.
[02:16] <MrSavage> Bashing-om: how do i enable networking?
[02:17] <EriC^^> guest-gV6sLY: i don't know what else you could rename, what was wrong with useradd btw?
[02:17] <blognewb> my god i hate mac!!!!
[02:17] <Bashing-om> MrSavage: You will see the option to do so once at the recovery console .
[02:17] <azizLIGHT> how can i open a file with prgram on the launcher by drag/drop from file explorer to the launcher icon? the launcher icon goes up/down and avoids the file when i drag it to it
[02:17] <blognewb> what a bad experience\
[02:18] <john38> where do i find drivers for a ati radeon hd 4200 graphics card
[02:18] <guest-gV6sLY> EriC^^: It gives the error, let me do it again
[02:18] <shibboleth> john38: amd/ati legacy support site, windows update catalog
[02:18] <john38> shibboleth, for precise pangolin
[02:18] <shibboleth> oh, i was think wrong channel
[02:19] <Quoexl> john38: ati.com
[02:19] <Bashing-om> john38: That card is legacy status, AMD (ATI) no longer supports it. What you have ( radeon ) is all that is available - blame AMD .
[02:19] <Jordan_U> john38: Are you having problems with the open source drivers used by default? If so, what problems?
[02:19] <shibboleth> john: the kernels radeon driver should work just fine
[02:20] <guest-gV6sLY> EriC^^: I can't enter su anymore
[02:20] <john38> Jordan_U, no i havent installed it yet but i read in software database that the ati fgllrx is not stable
[02:20] <shibboleth> john38: there are x-org specific drivers for radeon too
[02:20] <guest-gV6sLY> EriC^^: With my normal password
[02:20] <guest-gV6sLY> So I can't see it
[02:20] <Jordan_U> john38: You haven't installed Ubuntu yet?
[02:20] <Bashing-om> john38: IF you are willing to run 12.04.1 the ATI drivers are still available for that version of Xserver .
[02:20] <john38> Jordan_U, yes im on precise now
[02:20] <Quoexl> please do tell where to get 12.04.1
[02:21] <john38> Bashing-om, what do i type in software database
[02:21] <Jordan_U> john38: OK, are you using the drivers that Ubuntu uses by default?
[02:21] <john38> Jordan_U, yes
[02:21] <EriC^^> guest-gV6sLY: in the tty, if you type sudo useradd -G sudo,adm <new username>
[02:21] <Jordan_U> john38: Great. Are you having any problems with them?
[02:21] <john38> Jordan_U, no
[02:21] <EriC^^> guest-gV6sLY: what does it say?
[02:21] <john38> Jordan_U, i just thought i had to install some xorg drivers
[02:22] <Jordan_U> john38: Then it seems that you've found stable graphics drivers for your card.
[02:22] <john38> Jordan_U, im using my onboard graphics card cause my video card failed
[02:22] <guest-gV6sLY> EriC^^: existing lock file /etc/subgid.lock without a PID. cannot lock /etc/subgid
[02:22] <guest-gV6sLY> EriC^^: Try again later.
[02:22] <Bashing-om> john38: Terminal command -> X -version to determine the x-server version. Need X-server v1.12 or less for proprietary driver to work .
[02:23] <Jordan_U> john38: No, the open source drivers are fine. The main downsides of the open drivers are performance and OpenGL features, but since you specified that you care primarily about stability you should be good as you are.
[02:23] <imastupidguest> Well that sux
[02:23] <john38> Jordan_U, so i should just leave it like this
[02:23] <Jordan_U> john38: Yes.
[02:23] <Bashing-om> john38: +1 ^ . I run open source on old ATI card .. no problems at all .
[02:24] <Quoexl> compiz is problematic any way you look at it
[02:24] <john38> Jordan_U, so i guess precise installs proper drivers when new video card is detected right??
[02:24] <LinuxGold> compiz is cool, but plaqued with so much fork();'s
[02:25] <Quoexl> I personally run gnome-session-flashback (metacity)
[02:25] <Bashing-om> john38: My response, yes, unless you explicitly install 12.04.1 you will have the open source driver installed ; -> sudo lshw -C display to see what is .
[02:26] <LinuxGold> CLI rawkz over any GUI stuff
[02:26] <EriC^^> guest-gV6sLY: sorry, no idea
[02:26] <guest-gV6sLY> EriC^^: Ok, I understand. Then I guess I 'm stick with a guest account.
[02:26] <Quoexl> Bashing-om: where  to get 12.04.1?
[02:26] <EriC^^> guest-gV6sLY: you can try rebooting
[02:26] <w23rdst> imastupidguest change your name or ban.
[02:26] <azizLIGHT> can i connect to a remote host thru ssh without them knowing my username or machine name details like how i login: aziz@mymachine
[02:26] <john38> Bashing-om, ok
[02:26] <guest-gV6sLY> EriC^^: But what changes are made? Rebooting has no sense as I already tried to log in for like 20 times.
[02:26] <EriC^^> guest-gV6sLY: if that doesn't fix it, you can use the recovery to get a root shell
[02:27] <lyle> I wont start a home media center.  Is Amahi a good place to start?
[02:27] <EriC^^> guest-gV6sLY: it might fix the lock error
[02:27] <guest-gV6sLY> EriC^^: How do I use the recovery?
[02:27] <Bashing-om> Quoexl: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/precise/ . Make sure you get the .1 release .
[02:27] <john38> Bashing-om, only thing is i dont have unity effects
[02:28] <EriC^^> guest-gV6sLY: select it in grub under advanced, then press on enable networking and drop to root shell after that
[02:28] <EriC^^> guest-gV6sLY: you can then run adduser if you want and add a new user
[02:28] <guest-gV6sLY> EriC^^: I didn't install Ubuntu on this and I don't get what you are saying
[02:28] <Bashing-om> john38: Sorry, I do not run unity, and do not know how to trouble shoot 'effects' .
[02:29] <Quoexl> Bashing-om: thank you kindly sir
[02:29] <john38> Bashing-om, what does precise run??
[02:30] <Bashing-om> Quoexl: : ))  , what I can do to make all happy .
[02:30] <EriC^^> guest-gV6sLY: when you boot the pc, hold shift so grub appears, then select advanced
[02:30] <guest-gV6sLY> Now I understand
[02:30] <Bashing-om> john38: Precise runs unity for the desktop environment .
[02:31] <le_goliard> Question: is there a way for the background color of Gnome's terminal window to change when I ssh into another machine ?
[02:31] <john38> Bashing-om, yeah thats what i mean i have minimal graphics
[02:31] <Bashing-om> john38: A lot depends on ram .. unity is resource hungry .. got 2 gigs of ram or more ?
[02:32] <john38> Bashing-om, yeah i got about 8 gigs
[02:32] <Bashing-om> john38: Jealous is /me . Unity should be flying .
[02:34] <Bashing-om> john38: Is the open spource driver loaded ? what returns -> sudo lshw -C display <- in the "configuration" line ?
[02:34] <john38> Bashing-om, B.02.15
[02:37] <Bashing-om> john38: UnGood . If you are running an old(er) ATI card, and open source driver is installed; should see "  configuration: driver=radeon latency=0 " .
[02:37] <Synth> hi
[02:37] <Guest28032> how can I get the details for this server so I can use it on a client
[02:37] <john38> Bashing-om, what do i do
[02:39] <SynthAxe> Hello
[02:40] <Bashing-om> john38: Show the channel what card you do in fact have and the driver that is installed -> sudo apt-get install pastebinit ,  sudo lshw -C display | pastebinit . Pass the resulting URL back to the channel and we will check that output and KNOW what card we are working with .
[02:40] <john38> Bashing-om, i got a ati radeon hd 4200
[02:42] <john38> bash
[02:42] <upsell5> hi.  I want to copy my .ssh/ folder to the current folder I am in.  how can I do this?
[02:42] <john38> Bashing-om, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9390740/
[02:43] <Bashing-om> john38: -> dpkg -l | grep radeon <- does it give something like " ii  libdrm-radeon1:amd64                  2.4.52-1                             amd64        Userspace interface to radeon-specific kernel DRM services -- runtime
[02:43] <upsell5> cp -a ~/.ssh .
[02:43] <upsell5> is that right?
[02:43] <reisio> upsell5: that'd work
[02:43] <SynthAxe> How do I check if I have successfully installed wine?
[02:43] <upsell5> reisio: and I leave off the trailing slash right?  otherwise just the files will get copied
[02:43] <reisio> upsell5: nope
[02:44] <reisio> upsell5: ~/.ssh and ~/.ssh/, for 'cp FOO' resolve to the same thing
[02:44] <reisio> a trailing slash can matter for other commands, though
[02:44] <upsell5> i always think I should be encrypting my .ssh folder somehow
[02:44] <john38> Bashing-om, ii  libdrm-radeon1                         2.4.52-1~precise1                       Userspace interface to radeon-specific kernel DRM services -- runtime
[02:44] <john38> ii  radeontool                             1.6.2-1.1                               utility to control ATI Radeon backlight functions on laptops
[02:44] <john38> ii  xserver-xorg-video-radeon              1:6.14.99~git20111219.aacbd629-0ubuntu2 X.Org X server -- AMD/ATI Radeon display driver
[02:44] <upsell5> reisio: oh ok, great thanks.
[02:44] <Bashing-om> john38: see my http://paste.ubuntu.com/9390764/ . AND sudo apt-get install pastebinit.
[02:45] <reisio> you should... be mindful of what has access to ~/.ssh, yes :)
[02:45] <reisio> but also ~/, so :p
[02:45] <Bashing-om> !paste | john38
[02:45] <Jordan_U> SynthAxe: If you ran "sudo apt-get install wine" then you successfully installed wine. You can now try running Windows applications, and expect varying degrees of success.
[02:46] <upsell5> reisio: say I am using a cheap linode as a backup to access my servers, I want to put my ssh folder on the cheap linode box, but also encrypt the entire folder
[02:46] <upsell5> what’s the best way to do that?
[02:46] <upsell5> or say in case my laptop gets stolen, at least my ssh folder is encrypted.
[02:46] <reisio> upsell5: mmm, I like encfs, it's simple and straightforward
[02:47] <reisio> for spot encryptions
[02:47] <john38> Bashing-om, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9390788/
[02:47] <MrSavage> Hey all i'm having issues with setting up a multi monitor setup by using my mobo and amd card, i've set in my xorg.conf a driver for fglrx for the primary display and intel for the 2nd display. I get black screens on both when I boot up
[02:47] <MrSavage> it only happens when i set my 2nd screen to the driver intel
[02:47] <john38> Bashing-om, thats what i get when i run dpkg -l | grep radeon
[02:47] <Bashing-om> john38: Great, lookin at your http://paste.ubuntu.com/9390788/ .
[02:47] <upsell5> reisio:  i see
[02:48] <upsell5> what do sysadmins do to lockdown their ssh folder?  they must do that right?
[02:48] <reisio> upsell5: they disallow others access to their ~/ mostly, I dare say :)
[02:48] <reisio> but full disk encryption is also popular amongst the security conscious
[02:48] <reisio> for a remote share, you'd want some other type of encryption, yeah
[02:49] <upsell5> ok
[02:49] <reisio> can't rely on remote 3rd parties to encrypt things properly, or even not snoop
[02:49] <reisio> although arguably they can always watch you you decrypt/authenticate if you do it remotely (as opposed to merely store what was already encrypted remotely)
[02:51] <Bashing-om> john38: Odd, the open source driver is installed, why does not the interface see it ? show -> sudo lshw -C display | pastebinit .
[02:52] <john38> Bashing-om, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9390841/
[02:52] <Bashing-om> john38: Pondering http://paste.ubuntu.com/9390841/ .
[02:55] <john38> Bashing-om, any ideas should i just leave it alone?
[02:56] <Bashing-om> john38: You are in fact running the open source driver ' radeon ' >> "configuration: driver=radeon latency=0" - from your output. All looks good. I know of nothing else to do for effects .
[02:57] <john38> Bashing-om, ok well thats alright then thanks for your help
[02:59] <Bashing-om> john38: NP, help is why we are here ( and to see what I can learn ). If I could do you better, I would - I know of nothing else you can do .
[02:59] <john38> Bashing-om, ok
[03:07] <lyle> Home media center.  Help.  Love Ubuntu.  Now I'm ready to do something new.  Could be better with terminal commands.  I mostly cut and paste from web how to sites.  Any suggestions on getting started.   Example learn step one first then...try ....
[03:07] <SchrodingersScat> what do you want to actually do?
[03:08] <SoCo_cpp> Can I use the "Network Connections" dialog to add a VPN connection to an OpenVPN server with certificate authentication. I don't really see support for certificate auth. Would I need to additionally install  network-manager-openvpn, or should I try a more robust VPN client?
[03:08] <lyle> watch recorded shows from other tv's in the house.
[03:09] <lyle> I think it would be a good way to start learning about servers
[03:11] <MrSavage_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/557206/how-can-i-get-xorg-to-handle-both-fglrx-and-intel-for-two-devices-getting-segfa
[03:12] <SchrodingersScat> !info network-manager-openvpn
[03:12] <SoCo_cpp> ubottu that should work with XFCE right? I see a gnome specific one and talks of a kde specific one.
[03:13] <SoCo_cpp> I almost wonder if I want a standalone VPN client, as the network is something I want to rarely be connected to.
[03:13] <Mendax> what is the deal I am back
[03:13] <reisio> the deal is
[03:14] <Pinkamena_D> does anyone know of a fullscreen whiteboard/drawing program which just supports simple draw and erase, ie for math problems?
[03:14] <Mendax> no ddeal
[03:14] <Bashing-om> MrSavage_: https://github.com/beidl/amd-indicator <- This indicator applet allows owners of laptops with AMD/Intel hybrid graphics capabilities to easily switch between the graphics cards without the need of running CCC or terminal commands.
[03:14] <Mendax> MS Paint
[03:14] <squinty> lyle:  might want to check out the About for http://kodi.tv/about/    it's in the repo's so can be installed via your fave program installer
[03:14] <reisio> Pinkamena_D: any graphics editor
[03:14] <Mendax> 3.1
[03:14] <SchrodingersScat> !ot | Mendax
[03:14] <SchrodingersScat> SoCo_cpp: worth a shot, see if you like it
[03:14] <Mendax> I see
[03:14] <Mendax> i cant talk about microsoft
[03:14] <MrSavage_> Bashing-om: I don't want to switch between graphic cards. I want to run both my amd card and my motherboard at the SAME time so i can multi monitor. Also I'm not running a laptop, i'm running a desktop.
[03:15] <Pinkamena_D> gimp is nice but the full screen mode is not really fullscreen
[03:15] <SchrodingersScat> Mendax: anything that isn't ubuntu support is off topic
[03:15] <Mendax> ok
[03:15] <Pinkamena_D> do you know of a similar program which is?
[03:16] <SoCo_cpp> I'll try this Gadmin VPN client first and if it doesn't work Ill go fore the network manager openvpn route...and barring that, install the openvpn daemon way.
[03:17] <Bashing-om> MrSavage_: OK, long hard raod, maybe -> mega thread : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1743535&highlight=i915&page=86 ; MAFoElffen's .
[03:20] <lyle> thanks squinty
[03:22] <le_goliard> Question: is there a way for the background color of Gnome's terminal window to change when I ssh into another machine ?
[03:23] <MrSavage_> Bashing-om: made a post
[03:25] <Bashing-om> MrSavage_: Good deal, bet it gets MAFoElffen's interest .
[03:25] <MrSavage_> and it seems like he's talking about laptops
[03:25] <MrSavage_> I'M NOT USING A LAPTOP >8|
[03:26] <Bashing-om> MrSavage_: He do grahics , no discrimination .
[03:26] <MrSavage_> ah
[03:26] <MrSavage_> Bashing-om: Who is he?
[03:27] <MrSavage_> now that i have a headache i'm gonna stop fixing this
[03:27] <Bashing-om> MrSavage_: I only know him by reputation. Read his thread and you will get to know him .
[03:28] <MrSavage_> Bashing-om: I would but i have a deadline for a team project
[03:28] <MrSavage_> :P
[03:29] <Bashing-om> MrSavage_: Life has a way of doing that .
[03:30] <SoCo_cpp> So I'm trying to configure Gadmin for OpenVPN client access. Before, using OpenVPN on windows, I've only needed to specify the CA cert, my user cert, and my user key, but Gadmin is requiring additionally a DH key and TA key. Are these some sort of local keys that should be in ~/.ssh somewhere, or am I missing needed certs?
[03:35] <degva> Hello guys, so I've noticed that the gnome version of ubuntu doesn't save the session like linux mint would do when the battery goes off.
[03:35] <degva> is there any way I can add that feature to ubuntu gnome (14.04)?
[03:35] <reisio> probably need only to configure it
[03:36] <degva> Well, that's I also think I should do haha my question is how?
[03:37] <SoCo_cpp> screw it, Imma reboot to windows, connect to the vpn and look for them extra certs
[03:37] <reisio> gj
[03:42] <Hulio> hi guys, how to convert .zip file to .tar.md5 ?
[03:43] <Hulio> anyone know?
[03:45] <Hulio> anyone?
[03:45] <QuestionMark> it's installed flashplugin-installer 11.2.202.424ubuntu0.14.04.1 and the browser requiere flash 11.1 or higher, what can i do ?
[03:46] <reisio> Hulio: impossible
[03:46] <Hulio> why?
[03:46] <reisio> Hulio: they have nothing to do with one another
[03:46] <reisio> Hulio: what makes you think you want to?
[03:46] <bubbasaures> QuestionMark, There is pepperflash in chrome and usable in other browsers.
[03:46] <Hulio> i have a custom rom  in zip file  to be flash via recovery ..but   i prefer make it flash via ODIN
[03:46] <QuestionMark> thanks bubbasaures
[03:47] <jstrem> hi
[03:47] <daftykins> Hulio: that is not a relevant support query for this channel
[03:47] <Hulio> reisio, ^^
[03:47] <Hulio> oh
[03:47] <Hulio> daftykins, but it is related to ubuntu though....
[03:47] <daftykins> also, apples + oranges
[03:47] <daftykins> Hulio: no it is not.
[03:48] <jstrem> how can I install ubuntu desktop and install it from ubuntu server ?
[03:48] <Hulio> daftykins, alot of tutorial is showing  make .img to .tar.md5 is okay
[03:48] <jstrem> well download and install actually.
[03:48] <reisio> Hulio: what does odin have to do with zip, tar, or md5?
[03:48] <reisio> Hulio: doesn't sound quite like you've read them properly, those tutorials
[03:49] <Hulio> reisio, read this: http://androidadn.com/2012/09/how-to-convert-img-files-to-tar-md5-to-do-a-flash-with-odin3/
[03:49] <Hulio> but that is .img to md5
[03:49] <daftykins> still irrelevant for this channel, go find an android device or whatever it is channel
[03:49] <daftykins> even if i knew i would not help you brick some device :>
[03:50] <Hulio> lol
[03:50] <reisio> Hulio: okay
[03:50] <reisio> Hulio: no idea why it's being renamed to .tar.md5, but it wouldn't surprise me if those instructions do work
[03:50] <jstrem> I don't have a computer. my laptop broke... but I have a dell server with ubuntu 14.04. was wondering if I can put a guide to download ubuntu desktop?
[03:51] <daftykins> "put a guide" ?
[03:51] <jstrem> sorry. autocorrect. lol
[03:51] <jstrem> gui *
[03:51] <daftykins> does it have a directly attached screen, keyboard and mouse?
[03:51] <jstrem> yes
[03:51] <QuestionMark> bubbasaures, work just fine !
[03:51] <daftykins> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop (or) xubuntu-desktop (or) lubuntu-desktop
[03:52] <daftykins> it'll install tonnes of junk though so be afraid
[03:52] <bubbasaures> QuestionMark, Cool, it has it's issues but seems you up on getting things going, enjoy.
[03:52] <jstrem> ok. ty daftykins
[03:52] <bubbasaures> you're*
[04:03] <Mendax> about the Ubuntu life
[04:03] <blithen> hello friends! so I have quite the puzzling situation, google didn't help much. Basically if I set my font to terminus, it crashes whatever I was using. in xfce4.
[04:05] <Seranok> how long should it take to do tar --extract for a 40MB file?
[04:06] <Seranok> when i type that command it freezes for multiple minutes
[04:08] <hamnstar_> Seranok it could take a long time if the compression ratio is set super high
[04:08] <hamnstar_> although that seems like a stretch for a 40MB file, unless your system is low on resources
[04:10] <Alissa> How am I able to clear the downloaded http files cache or whatever it is? I re-updated files on my server but neither Firefox nor wget want to grab the new file.
[04:10] <worble> Why can't I configure grub options in the boot-repair live usb?
[04:10] <worble> they are grayed out
[04:11] <abucode> I want USB devices on a particular port automatically mounted at a particular location. I posted the question here some time ago but didn't get any responses. Any help? http://askubuntu.com/questions/555138/automount-usb-connected-a-particular-port-on-a-specific-path
[04:11] <bubbasaures> worble, Can you post a screenshot of this?
[04:12] <bubbasaures> worble, On the opening gui second button down is the bootinfo summary only run it and poste the generated url to.
[04:13] <worble> bubbasaures: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9391525/
[04:13] <worble> bubbasaures: I just installed a new drive, copied root files but I did not correctly configure the bootloader
[04:13] <worble> bubbasaures: New drive is sdc
[04:13] <worble> old is sda
[04:14] <worble> bubbasaures: I'm not sure if I can take a screenshot in the live usb. Is there a hotkey?
[04:15] <bubbasaures> worble, I don't think it's set up for btrfs have you seen it work ever?
[04:15] <worble> bubbasaures: What, grub? Or boot-repair?
[04:15] <bubbasaures> worble, bootrepair
[04:16] <worble> bubbasaures: No, first time I use it
[04:17] <digcloud> I'm unable to start php5-fpm in ubuntu 14.04. When I "service php5-fpm start" it shows a process ID, but immediately dies.
[04:18] <digcloud> In /var/log/upstart/php5-fpm.log I see "PHP:  syntax error, unexpected '=' in Unknown on line 1"
[04:18] <digcloud> I'm not sure where to look for the equal sign it doesn't like..??
[04:18] <bubbasaures> worble, Never messed with that partitioning, I assume you could just boot it with supergrub and do a grub install
[04:19] <bubbasaures> worble, Have you tried booting from sdc?
[04:20] <bubbasaures> it shows grub in it's mbr
[04:20] <worble> bubbasaures: but it points to the wrong UUID
[04:20] <bubbasaures> worble, Ah, you imaged the mbr to?
[04:21] <bubbasaures> !screenshot | worble here's info
[04:21] <bubbasaures> show the greyed out portion
[04:22] <bobbertson> im switching from arch to ubuntu because i read about how amazon is integrated within the distro! thats awesome! i use amazon to do almost all my shopping
[04:23] <Hatycat> Yeah same
[04:23] <Hatycat> I am tired of propriatary software shoving shit down my face
[04:23] <Hatycat> now with Ubuntu I have the freedom to only search amazon and my local computer
[04:23] <SchrodingersScat> !language | Hatycat
[04:23] <reisio> :)
[04:24] <bubbasaures> bobbertson, Not actually integrated as any more than a plugin.
[04:24] <Hatycat> kek
[04:24] <Hatycat> #rekt
[04:24] <bobbertson> can the plugin be easily removed
[04:24] <bubbasaures> yes
[04:24] <bobbertson> thats crazy!
[04:24] <bobbertson> why would anyone want to remove it
[04:24] <bobbertson> amazon is the greatest online shopping site
[04:24] <Hatycat> ^
[04:24] <Hatycat> like maybe if it intergrated Newegg that would be intrusive
[04:25] <worble> bubbasaures: No I did dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc
[04:25] <bubbasaures> Not sure europe agrees
[04:25] <worble> and selected all drives
[04:25] <bobbertson> amazon actually respects peoples freedom and gives fair pricing
[04:25] <Hatycat> Can I add the plugin in to Arch assuming I use Unity?
[04:25] <Hatycat> that was a srs question btw
[04:26] <reisio> Hatycat: yup
[04:26] <bobbertson> how much is canonical paying amazon to be able to use their search in this distro?
[04:26] <reisio> bobbertson: you have it backwards
[04:26] <worble> bubbasaures: I can't screenshot
[04:26] <worble> bubbasaures: Going to reboot
[04:26] <bobbertson> what do you mean reisio
[04:26] <sonetea> hi /g/
[04:26] <bubbasaures> worble, This command run how exactly?
[04:26] <reisio> it's for canonical to make money
[04:27] <bobbertson> no thats not true quit trolling reisio canonical is a non for profit
[04:27] <bobbertson> they wouldnt do that
[04:27] <bobbertson> they pay amazon so that users get to shop at the greatest online retailer
[04:27] <reisio> canonical is not a not for profit
[04:27] <bobbertson> so they dont respect my freedom?
[04:28] <reisio> irrelevant :)
[04:28] <bobbertson> they are creating the greatest phone though
[04:28] <sonetea> i wish
[04:28] <bobbertson> its got a great cost
[04:28] <bobbertson> its fair
[04:28] <bobbertson> only $825
[04:28] <sonetea> it's*
[04:28] <Hatycat> does the phone come with amazon though? cause then I can see it taking off mad, like the amazon fire did
[04:29] <sonetea> Is amazon Richard Stallman approved?
[04:29] <reisio> sarcasm only? :p
[04:29] <lasers> http://venturebeat.com/2014/12/05/amazon-starts-bricking-hacked-fire-tvs-in-latest-firmware-update/
[04:30] <Hatycat> uh oh
[04:30] <Hatycat> Does amazon fire not use free software?
[04:30] <reisio> shhhh
[04:30] <Hatycat> I accidently bought one as a christmas present
[04:30] <Hatycat> may have to return it now
[04:30] <reisio> fire tvs?
[04:30] <reisio> sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen
[04:30] <Hatycat> Cant have my grandma using shit that doesnt respect her freedom
[04:30] <reisio> Hatycat: you can't disable the updates?
[04:31] <sonetea> He doesn't want his FireTV to be prone to security bugs
[04:31] <sonetea> what is he is hacked by someone using Arch!
[04:31] <Guest23913> how's Xubuntu different than regular Ubuntu?
[04:31] <anon> hello
[04:32] <reisio> Guest23913: uses Xfce by default, instead of GNOME+Unity
[04:32] <sonetea> Guest23913: xubuntu uses the xfce desktop environment
[04:32] <Hatycat> !g how is Xubunutu different than regular ubuntu
[04:32] <Hatycat> oh wow
[04:32] <bobbertson> dont use it Guest23913
[04:32] <reisio> Guest23913: you can turn Xubuntu to Ubuntu and Ubuntu to Xubuntu, without reinstalling
[04:32] <bobbertson> use ubuntu
[04:32] <bobbertson> xubuntu doesnt come with amazon
[04:32] <reisio> Guest23913: /nick dudemcdude
[04:32] <Hatycat> yeah bob beat me to it
[04:32] <sonetea> bobbertson: pls, no shitposting when people actually have questions
[04:32] <anon> are all of you guys using anonymous?
[04:32] <QuestionMark> i'm need some application to make flowchart, what do you recommend?
[04:32] <bobbertson> we all use amazon all the time anyways why would you not want it
[04:33] <bobbertson> its convenient and helpful
[04:33] <reisio> anon: using wha?
[04:33] <grom> dumb terminal question, having trouble googling it - does anyone know what it means to "change directories recursively" as in "-R"
[04:33] <Hatycat> yeah I am actually serious
[04:33] <reisio> QuestionMark: eh...
[04:33] <anon>  anonymous
[04:33] <lasers> Guest23913: Look at those pretty pictures! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desktop_environment#Gallery
[04:33] <reisio> QuestionMark: do you want to make lots, quickly, programmatically, after learning how?
[04:33] <reisio> QuestionMark: or just draw one tediously?
[04:33] <Guest23913> so that's the difference! Xfce instead of Unity
[04:33] <reisio> Guest23913: yup
[04:33] <bobbertson> it means it does it in reverse grom
[04:33] <QuestionMark> one like luccidchart
[04:33] <bobbertson> searches backwards from what you type
[04:33] <reisio> grom: what command?
[04:33] <QuestionMark> one like luccidchart reisio
[04:33] <bobbertson> hence the re in recursive
[04:34] <anon> are all of you guys using anonymous?
[04:34] <grom> The command is chmod 777 * -R
[04:34] <Guest23913> so by modus ponens, Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE
[04:34] <grom> changing permissions of a folder for plex (headache)
[04:34] <bubbasaures> Guest23913, There is enough difference your actual research will be better info.
[04:34] <sonetea> anon: what do you mean?
[04:34] <reisio> grom: that would apply to all that match *, and all dirs in all that match * as well
[04:34] <grom> and trying to understand what the -R does
[04:34] <reisio> grom: it's usually quite a profoundly bad idea to chmod recursively :)
[04:34] <bobbertson> it searches backwards grom
[04:34] <anon> i mea using the anonymous hacking tool
[04:34] <grom> and it's a bad idea?
[04:34] <reisio> anon: sounds like a question for #scriptkiddies
[04:34] <reisio> grom: almost always, particularly with chmod 777 :p
[04:35] <anon> which is me :(
[04:35] <sonetea> is that actually a channel? lel
[04:35] <reisio> grom: might talk to #plex
[04:35] <grom> so...if I'm understanding correctly, -R means that I basically just changed the permissions of every directory since I used *?
[04:35] <sonetea> gr
[04:35] <sonetea> grom: *
[04:35] <sonetea> do this
[04:36] <sonetea> man chmod
[04:36] <reisio> grom: if you actually did that, yup
[04:36] <grom> k
[04:36] <grom> awesome
[04:36] <grom> :(
[04:36] <reisio> usually you can also use '.' instead of '*'
[04:36] <reisio> with -r
[04:36] <grom> ah
[04:36] <grom> that limits it to the current directory?
[04:36] <reisio> but quite an awful thing to run regardless
[04:36] <bobbertson> grom an easier way to do what you want is open up the search and type home theater pc or nas and click the one you want to buy off of Amazon
[04:36] <reisio> no it's just more efficient
[04:36] <bobbertson> will come pre configured the way you want
[04:36] <sonetea> reisio: -R*
[04:36] <grom> plex is annoying in ubuntu
[04:36] <reisio> -r * says match everything, and recurse
[04:36] <grom> bobbertson - lol :)
[04:36] <reisio> -r . says start here, and recurse
[04:36] <reisio> the end result is the same
[04:37] <reisio> the latter should always be faster
[04:37] <reisio> even if you don't notice it :p
[04:37] <Hatycat> wait is he trying to do this in FreeBSD?
[04:37] <grom> thank you guys really appreciate your help. I'm going to jump over #plex now as well - thanks for the suggestion
[04:37] <reisio> why do you ask?
[04:37] <bobbertson> grom i think you might have accidentally installed slackware
[04:37] <bobbertson> instead of ubuntu
[04:37] <bobbertson> it happens sometimes
[04:37] <reisio> heh
[04:38] <Loshki> reisio: *are* they the same. * will expand to names which don't begin with dots, but -r . will include them.
[04:39] <Hatycat> anon plz stop spaming channel
[04:39] <Hatycat> oh shit I was scrolled up nm
[04:39] <Hatycat> didnt meant aht
[04:39] <bobbertson> hes just a troll ignore him
[04:39] <reisio> Loshki: . does not match a dot, it merely indicates the cwd is the path to start recursing from
[04:39] <reisio> . says start here, and with -r do everything
[04:40] <sonetea> does systemd respect my freedom?
[04:40] <reisio> oh you're saying it'll skip dot files
[04:40] <Loshki> reisio: I'm saying -r . will include dotfiles in the current directory, -r * will not.
[04:40]  * reisio rolls eyes
[04:40] <bobbertson> im trying to find emacs on amazon
[04:40] <reisio> that's a level of pedantism I consider irrelevant to this convo :D
[04:40] <bobbertson> want to install it
[04:40] <MDTech-us_MAN> hello
[04:41] <Loshki> reisio: you have a long & successful career in management ahead of you
[04:41] <bobbertson> i searched for headphones and then bought them off amazon in the desktop and they havent come yet
[04:41] <reisio> Loshki: if only
[04:41] <sonetea> bobbertson: here use "sudo emerge emacs"
[04:41] <bobbertson> can someone help me
[04:41] <sonetea> and it will install
[04:41] <MDTech-us_MAN> anybody know of anything that gives a graphical display of the number of ntpd requests
[04:41] <Loshki> reisio: Well, note I didn't say programming.
[04:41] <bobbertson> emacs does that MDTech-us_MAN
[04:42] <reisio> Loshki: I'm pretty sure you said what you said
[04:42] <reisio> but I could be wrong
[04:42] <bobbertson> M-x ntpd-gui
[04:42] <Loshki> reisio: I'm trying to insult you. Please be more cooperative.
[04:42] <reisio> :D
[04:42] <bubbasaures> lol
[04:42] <MDTech-us_MAN> bobbertson
[04:42] <reisio> there's always one more thing you can know
[04:42] <MDTech-us_MAN> where do I find ntpd-gui?
[04:43] <bobbertson> do sudo apt-get install emacs
[04:43] <reisio> doesn't make it particularly relevant to the discussion at hand
[04:43] <bobbertson> and then open that up and press alt+x and type ntpd-gui
[04:43] <bobbertson> press enter
[04:43] <sonetea> >apt-get
[04:43] <MDTech-us_MAN> ok
[04:43] <sonetea> this isn't 1990 anymore
[04:43] <MDTech-us_MAN> thx!
[04:43] <bobbertson> no problem
[04:44] <bobbertson> sign up for your free trial of amazon prime for more ubuntu related help
[04:44] <netlar> heh??
[04:44] <sonetea> bobbertson: I have bad news for you
[04:44] <sonetea> there wont be anymore amazon in Unity8
[04:44] <bobbertson> WHY?!
[04:44]  * Hatycat drops soap
[04:44] <Hatycat> NOOO
[04:45] <Hatycat> did they switch to newegg?
[04:45] <Hatycat> cause if thats teh case Im switching to mint
[04:45] <netlar> sonetea: Is the interface changing a lot from Unity 7?
[04:45] <sonetea> apparently some neckbeards (probably using gentoo) forced Shuttlesworth to sign a document stating that he won't use amazon in the next release
[04:45] <sonetea> netlar: i don't believe so
[04:45] <bobbertson> UHG! the male patriarchy does it again!
[04:46] <netlar> sonetea: Good I love Unity
[04:46] <bobbertson> way to be savages and ruin the world
[04:46] <ilk> i wont use ubuntu ever again
[04:46] <Hatycat> stallman, and his gang of misfits after my amazon plugins
[04:46] <ilk> thats it for mew
[04:46] <bobbertson> if females didnt have a wage gap this wouldnt have happened
[04:46]  * bubbasaures reaches for the bullhorn
[04:46] <bobbertson> if canonical had a female CEO we would still have Amazon right now
[04:47] <bobbertson> way to take away our favorite online retailer
[04:47] <sonetea> bobbertson: maybe gnome will add it
[04:47] <Hatycat> yeah because women love shopping, but because of oppresion we only make 0.84C on the dollar so we cant afford to shop on amazon from Unity
[04:47] <sonetea> they seem to like feminists
[04:47] <bobbertson> women help make the economy go around, men are filthy communists
[04:47] <bobbertson> thats why women should be in charge
[04:47] <bobbertson> its the new way, its progressive
[04:47] <bobbertson> its equal
[04:47] <Hatycat> yah look at yahoo
[04:48] <Hatycat> They would be top search engine without oppression
[04:48] <bobbertson> ^
[04:48] <Hatycat> Ubuntu should default to yahoo
[04:48] <Hatycat> cause equal
[04:48] <bobbertson> yahoo is the greatest search engine
[04:48] <Mendax> I think of all the education that I missed
[04:48] <bobbertson> yahoo didnt become the number 1 most used search engine from nothing
[04:48] <bobbertson> its the female CEO that made it all
[04:48] <bobbertson> geocities was revolutionary, now it is the biggest web host of all time and growing
[04:49] <reisio> cities made out of chevrolets
[04:49] <sonetea> >windows 7
[04:49] <MDTech-us_MAN> bobbertson
[04:49] <sonetea> Hatycat: i think you need to check your privillege
[04:49] <MDTech-us_MAN> ntpd-gui [No match]
[04:49] <Hatycat> sonetea, b..b...b..bbut muh vidya
[04:50] <sonetea> too late now
[04:50] <bobbertson> oh ya you need to install the plugin i forgot
[04:50] <bobbertson> just a sec let me find the name
[04:50] <Hatycat> I swear nothing but free software on my other boot
[04:50] <sonetea> it's either install gentoo or don't even bother using linux at all
[04:50] <sonetea> ubuntu*
[04:50] <bobbertson> sudo apt-get install netbeans
[04:50] <mastershake> hey guys i have a chromebook that long story short i bypased googles kernel signatures enabling me to install diff *nixs so i want to install an ubuntu server "lite" , since the chromebook only has a 12 gig solid state ...any suggesstions?
[04:50] <bobbertson> MDTech-us_MAN
[04:50] <Hatycat> please write ubisoft a letter demanding FC4 on linux and I will stop running windows
[04:51] <MDTech-us_MAN> ok
[04:51] <mastershake> can i download like ubuntu server 10.01 or something liek that?
[04:51] <sonetea> mastershake: start from a netinstall
[04:51] <sonetea> and maybe install xubuntu or lubuntu
[04:51] <sonetea> or you can go ricer and install openbox or some obscure tiling WM
[04:52] <Hatycat> >using  a GUI
[04:52] <Hatycat> plebs
[04:52] <bobbertson> is there a tiling window manager with amazon integration
[04:52] <Hatycat> whats the point of a computer why not just get an ipad at that point?
[04:52] <teward> Hatycat: do you have an actual question?  If not, please don't add unnecessary noise to the channel.
[04:52] <sonetea> bobbertson: haskell has amazon backdoors
[04:52] <sonetea> so try xmonad
[04:53] <icloud> !snippet
[04:53] <icloud> hi all, any screen shot tool like windows snippet? i don't want the full screen just boxed section with mouse
[04:53] <sonetea> yeah
[04:53] <bobbertson> can i install ubuntu on my ps4
[04:53] <teward> icloud: the screenshot tool allows you to snip a selected section of your screen
[04:54] <bobbertson> ps4 is based on ubuntu
[04:54] <sonetea> icloud: Ubuntu has one already installed
[04:54] <Hatycat> bobbertson, no but you can manually browse amazon.com :/
[04:54] <teward> icloud: and the tool is already there.  open the dash and type in 'screenshot'
[04:54] <icloud> oh awesome
[04:54] <MDTech-us_MAN> http://askubuntu.com/questions/346864/how-do-i-take-a-screenshot
[04:54] <icloud> teward, sonetea thanks abunch
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[04:55] <MDTech-us_MAN> there is also the Print Screen button, icloud
[04:55] <excalibr> Any of you here code in C? Could you please help me with my patch code
[04:55] <teward> MDTech-us_MAN: he wants to do small screen snippets
[04:55] <Hatycat> C is misogynist programming language
[04:55] <teward> MDTech-us_MAN: not a full desktop screenshot (which printscreen does)
[04:55] <reisio> Hatycat: best kind
[04:55] <excalibr> Hatycat, trying to patch something in network manager applet
[04:55] <MDTech-us_MAN> teward, well, its an option too
[04:55] <max_> top of the day to everyone
[04:55] <reisio> g'day
[04:55] <excalibr> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9383196/
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> excalibr: check the ##programming guys
[04:55] <MDTech-us_MAN> didn't notice it
[04:56] <reisio> all the best women hate women
[04:56] <sonetea> yeah, use a proper female respecting language
[04:56] <sonetea> like scratch
[04:56] <MDTech-us_MAN> bobbertson, still installing
[04:56] <bobbertson> excalibr consider using C+= instead its better for what you are trying to do
[04:56] <MDTech-us_MAN> over 200MB of packages
[04:56] <excalibr> bobbertson, look at the link
[04:56] <bobbertson> ya MDTech-us_MAN its a collection of a bunch of useful tools
[04:56] <bobbertson> networking monitoring guis and stuff too
[04:56] <bobbertson> of all kinds
[04:56] <bobbertson> https://gitorious.org/c-plus-equality/c-plus-equality/source/cefcfb4276889bd3833c539225a9cdfd3eb16d33:README.md
[04:56] <sonetea> I came up with one of the rules for C+=
[04:57] <sonetea> im basically a C+= creator i guess
[04:57] <MDTech-us_MAN> sonetea, lol
[04:57] <Hatycat> Sonderblade, plz do a reddit AMA
[04:57] <Hatycat> oops sonetea **
[04:57] <linux> is java a good learning language for beginers
[04:57] <Hatycat> to many peeps ITC
[04:57] <bobbertson> no linux
[04:57] <Hatycat> linux, yes that or python
[04:57] <reisio> linux: nope
[04:57] <excalibr> since when this channel has become a chat channel now?
[04:57] <Hatycat> JK neither respect your friend
[04:58] <sonetea> linux: yeah
[04:58] <linux> whats a good one
[04:58] <reisio> linux: Python
[04:58] <Hatycat> only use Assmbly code
[04:58] <MDTech-us_MAN> bobbertson, still no match
[04:58] <icloud> linux,  python
[04:58] <reisio> linux: http://www.greenteapress.com/thinkpython/
[04:58] <bobbertson> strange MDTech-us_MAN
[04:58] <sonetea> java is great for a beginner
[04:58] <bobbertson> try launching netbeans
[04:58] <linux> ahh ok thx
[04:58] <reisio> linux: that'll teach you both Python and programming in general
[04:58] <reisio> good book
[04:58] <MDTech-us_MAN> bobbertson, how?
[04:58] <icloud> sonetea, actually that is true to, to really learn it java is good
[04:58] <sonetea> there's so much newbs that use it that there's literally answers to every question you could have
[04:58] <reisio> Java™ is quite terrible
[04:58] <sonetea> like a certain linux distro :^)
[04:58] <icloud> but python you can start coding cool stuff right away
[04:58] <reisio> it's being replaced with Python even at universities
[04:59] <reisio> who were paid to teach Java™
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> !ot
[04:59] <phunyguy> Hatycat: what are you on about?
[04:59] <phunyguy> yes please stick to ubuntu support in here.
[04:59] <excalibr> !ot > Hatycat
[04:59] <bobbertson> type netbeans in terminal MDTech-us_MAN
[04:59] <excalibr> !ot > bobbertson
[04:59] <icloud> yeah that's true go to #ubuntu-offtopic sorry guys
[04:59] <mastershake> is there a "disk cleanup" option in ubuntu?
[05:00] <bobbertson> im providing support obottu
[05:00] <sonetea> java is quite terrible for actual programming
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> mastershake: bleachbit is very handy
[05:00] <sonetea> but as a learning language it's good
[05:00] <MDTech-us_MAN> bobbertson, I don't have x installed
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> !info bleachbit | mastershake
[05:00] <MDTech-us_MAN> *sigh*
[05:00] <phunyguy> sonetea: you too.  This is ubuntu support only.
[05:00] <bobbertson> well you need X to use a gui anyways
[05:00] <MDTech-us_MAN> oh well
[05:00] <sonetea> k
[05:00] <mastershake> awesome! thanks
[05:00] <MDTech-us_MAN> is 512 MB enough for a gui?
[05:00] <MDTech-us_MAN> of ram I mean
[05:01] <reisio> sure
[05:01] <reisio> ram is frequently quite cheap, though
[05:01] <bobbertson> depends
[05:01] <reisio> you could conceivably get 400% more ram for about $20
[05:01] <MDTech-us_MAN> gnome is too bulky for it
[05:01] <reisio> as bobbertson said, it depends
[05:01] <reisio> GNOME is bulky no matter how much ram you have :P
[05:01] <bobbertson> i didnt like gnome it didnt give me amazon shopping results :/
[05:01] <xmetal> wow @ gnomeshell attempt on 512MB
[05:01] <bobbertson> i had to reinstall unity
[05:01] <MDTech-us_MAN> well,
[05:01] <phunyguy> guys, seriously.  This isn't the place to discuss hardware upgrades.
[05:01] <symbiosisstarshi> Is using GStreamer the generally accepted standard way to play mp3 files or is there some other set of codecs which should be used?
[05:02] <MDTech-us_MAN> all i need to do is view logs
[05:02] <MDTech-us_MAN> thats all
[05:02] <reisio> bobbertson: heh
[05:02] <symbiosisstarshi> Ubuntu 14.04
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> symbiosisstarshi: did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[05:02] <sonetea> symbiosisstarshi: it's gstreamer
[05:02] <MDTech-us_MAN> its not a pc I do work on or anything
[05:02] <MDTech-us_MAN> in fact its a VM
[05:02] <reisio> phunyguy: who's discussing hardware upgrades?
[05:03] <symbiosisstarshi> lotuspsychje: I was just about to but wanted to confirm that this was still the appropriate mechanism.  Thank you
[05:03] <knet22> hello
[05:03] <daftykins> reisio: ooh you little scamp
[05:03] <phunyguy> reisio: besides you?
[05:03] <reisio> 'lo knet22
[05:03] <MDTech-us_MAN> so, what is a good gui?
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> this channel isnt to discuss
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> !discuss
[05:03] <reisio> phunyguy: not that I was, but it'd be interesting if you did find someone "else"
[05:03] <reisio> daftykins: ohai
[05:03] <knet22> i have ubuntu 15.04
[05:04] <MDTech-us_MAN> :|
[05:04] <reisio> MDTech-us_MAN: the one you like
[05:04] <sonetea> is #ubuntu-dicuss dead?
[05:04] <phunyguy> knet22: #ubuntu+1 for that.
[05:04] <mastershake> guys im screwed i literally cant do anything because my disk is full and idk what to do
[05:04] <mastershake> i cant even tab complete
[05:04] <knet22> oh ok thanks
[05:04] <xmetal> uh oh
[05:04] <reisio> mastershake: sudo su
[05:04] <reisio> mastershake: then free up some space
[05:04] <xmetal> if i could get to a terminal i'd look at files inside /tmp and clear some stuff out
[05:04] <MDTech-us_MAN> reisio, I mean the lightest one
[05:04] <reisio> MDTech-us_MAN: the lightest you might find horrible
[05:04] <xmetal> (if i were you i meant)
[05:05] <bobbertson> ubottu please stop spamming that message
[05:05] <bobbertson> thank you
[05:05] <reisio> MDTech-us_MAN: or at least not without a learning curve
[05:05] <reisio> MDTech-us_MAN: LXDE is quite light
[05:05] <reisio> MDTech-us_MAN: Xfce is quite light and quite similar to GNOME
[05:05] <mastershake> hmm okay let me see what i can do
[05:05] <reisio> MDTech-us_MAN: and fine for 512MB, if that's what you were after
[05:05] <MDTech-us_MAN> ok
[05:05] <MDTech-us_MAN> i'll try xfce
[05:05] <knet22> any good antivirus for ubuntu ?
[05:05] <reisio> the more dedicated graphics hardware you have, the less ram matters for a DE
[05:05] <xmetal> all i will say Is I wouldn't try Unity on a PC with only 512MB (the rest is off topic so i will leave my comment there)
[05:06] <reisio> knet22: clamav
[05:06] <knet22> mmm
[05:06] <reisio> xmetal: 's'more to do with graphics hardware than ram, again
[05:06] <MDTech-us_MAN> reisio, it just onboard graphics
[05:06] <knet22> never heard
[05:06] <reisio> MDTech-us_MAN: k
[05:06] <reisio> knet22: more useful for servers
[05:06] <reisio> as GNU/Linux has virtually zero actually threatening bits of badware
[05:07] <reisio> so it's more about protecting other OSes that the server interacts with
[05:07] <MDTech-us_MAN> wow!
[05:07] <MDTech-us_MAN> only 935 packages
[05:07] <reisio> or for saving your bandwidth
[05:07] <MDTech-us_MAN> and 1.3GB of space
[05:07] <reisio> an email virus can eat up a lot of bandwidth, and cash
[05:07] <knet22> and a good firewall?
[05:08] <reisio> knet22: a good firewall frontend...
[05:08] <reisio> I don't keep track
[05:08] <reisio> knet22: ufw, maybe
[05:08] <phunyguy> gufw
[05:08] <phunyguy> !info gufw
[05:08] <phunyguy> great package
[05:08] <knet22> oh nice
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> phunyguy: can you join #ubuntu-discuss for a min
[05:08] <reisio> knet22: http://alternativeto.net/software/ufw/?platform=linux or firestarter
[05:09] <icloud> MDTech-us_MAN, you can try lxde which is probably lighter, or you can use xmonad which is really light.  but its a little harder to set up
[05:09] <knet22> is it hard to use it?
[05:10] <MDTech-us_MAN> well, its already loading
[05:10] <reisio> xmonad is lighter, but you'd have to learn how to use it
[05:10] <reisio> it's also lighter because it isn't a desktop environment so much as just a manager of windows, a window manager
[05:10] <MDTech-us_MAN> I'll just let it suck up my internet while I sleep
[05:10] <MDTech-us_MAN> lol
[05:10] <reisio> anyways
[05:11] <phunyguy> ok, this really isn't support related at all.
[05:11] <MDTech-us_MAN> good night
[05:11] <reisio> 512MB may not be much compared to a new box of today
[05:11] <reisio> it's still plenty for a DE
[05:11] <MDTech-us_MAN> reisio, its ONE of the vms on a 16GB ram box
[05:11] <phunyguy> would be more suited for #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-discuss if you want to talk about ubuntu but don't have an actual support question.
[05:12] <MDTech-us_MAN> but anyway
[05:12] <MDTech-us_MAN> time to afk
[05:12] <reisio> MDTech-us_MAN: hah
[05:12] <bynarie> i have a windows partition(/dev/sda4, NTFS) mounted under /home/user/windows. When im in that folder, I cant just hit the delete key to delete files. It gives an error about "unable to find or create a trash directory". I have to manually right click and select delete. Any ideas on how to fix this???
[05:13] <icloud> !ubuntu-discuss | icloud
[05:14] <reisio> bynarie: mmm, in ordinary Ubuntu?
[05:14] <bynarie> yep
[05:14] <knet22> what's the difference between 14.04 LTS and 14.10?
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> !lts | knet22
[05:14] <reisio> bynarie: well you could make a .local trash dir there, I guess
[05:15] <reisio> bynarie: if you actually want it to move them to trash, and not delete them
[05:15] <reisio> knet22: .04 is from april, .10 from october
[05:15] <bynarie> the .Trash-1000 folder?
[05:15] <reisio> bynarie: whatever it's called, in ~/.local/
[05:15] <knet22> what's the most used?
[05:15] <knet22> 04 ?
[05:15] <bynarie> i just want to be able to hit the delete key
[05:15] <reisio> knet22: does it matter?
[05:15] <knet22> yes
[05:15] <reisio> knet22: does it really? :)
[05:15] <reisio> bynarie: okay
[05:16] <bubbasaures> bynarie, gksudo dconf-editor and set a delete
[05:16] <bynarie> i think i found the answer.. thanks for your help
[05:16] <reisio> gj
[05:16] <knet22> i need to know :P
[05:16] <reisio> more people probably use .04
[05:16] <reisio> I would wager for not-particularly-logical reasons, however
[05:17] <knet22> there are some stats?
[05:17] <reisio> undoubtedly
[05:17] <bynarie> knet22, i use 14.10. personally for me, its faster
[05:17] <knet22> :)
[05:17] <reisio> newer things frequently are
[05:17] <bynarie> yeep
[05:18] <bynarie> knet22, but for the most part... 04 and 10 are fairly the same exact thing
[05:18] <bynarie> minor differences
[05:18] <k2gremlin> Anyone know of a general discussion VM channel?
[05:18] <reisio> k2gremlin: usually one picks the software being used
[05:18] <k2gremlin> Well I tried #ESXi and no on there lol
[05:19] <reisio> although if you were using Gentoo you could go to #gentoo-virtualization ;)
[05:19] <reisio> #vmware, methinks
[05:19] <reisio> /msg alis list *vmware*
[05:20] <knet22> why so many people use ubuntu?
[05:20] <reisio> 'cause
[05:20] <reisio> it's a thing that does something they like doing
[05:20] <knet22> it's free?
[05:21] <reisio> it is free
[05:21] <knet22> i think because it's free :P
[05:21] <reisio> I'm sure that plays a part
[05:21] <sonetea> knet22: has to do a lot with their image a few years ago
[05:21] <bynarie> a lot of people use debian in general.. not just ubuntu
[05:22] <Mov|juna> but if u want, u can pay to the foundation
[05:22] <knet22> u mean donate?
[05:22] <reisio> or you can pay me
[05:22] <phunyguy> HEY.  This is not the channel for general chatter.  I am not going to warn again.  Please take it elsewhere.
[05:23] <knet22> what is the channel for general chat
[05:23] <sonetea> #ubuntu-discuss
[05:23] <phunyguy> #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:23] <phunyguy> -offtopic being the one with actual people in it.
[05:24] <Mov|juna> oups, phunyguy wants to sleep
[05:24] <bynarie> LoL^^
[05:24] <bynarie> "actual people"
[05:24] <phunyguy> no, I just want this channel to maintain a support-only atmosphere.
[05:24] <mastershake> there's only 512kb in /tmp
[05:24] <mastershake> idk wtf to do
[05:24] <reisio> heh
[05:24] <phunyguy> !wtf
[05:24] <mastershake> ubetbootin wont even let me burn from one exteranl to another usb
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> mastershake: try to clean the firefox tmp folder also
[05:24] <reisio> hard to support with you complaining so much
[05:25]  * reisio yawns
[05:25] <bynarie> i got the trash issue fixed guys.. i had to create a .Trash-100 folder and now the delete key works.. FYI
[05:25] <bynarie> thanks
[05:26] <reisio> bynarie: gj
[05:26] <reisio> phunyguy: that was your support, right?
[05:26] <reisio> oh wait that was me
[05:26] <phunyguy> drop it, please.
[05:26] <reisio> my mistake
[05:26] <reisio> drop what?
[05:26] <Ankoran> when you compiled and installed something from source like make install is there a command to remove it all like make remove or something?
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> !compile | Ankoran
[05:26] <reisio> Ankoran: nope
[05:26] <bynarie> ** .Trash-1000
[05:26] <reisio> Ankoran: use checkinstall if you can
[05:27] <reisio> bynarie: :)
[05:27] <Ankoran> ok just need to reinstall something but i can wuipe out the configs i guess to start clean the code is fine
[05:27] <reisio> Ankoran: if you reinstall it, you can watch what it adds
[05:27] <reisio> and use that to know what to remove
[05:27] <Ankoran> i didntwant to use the ubuntu asterisk package it was not latest
[05:27] <Ankoran> i know where it put everything i just was wondering if there was a command to do it quicker
[05:27] <bynarie> does apt/synaptic not keep track of compiled packages?
[05:28] <bynarie> or even dpkg
[05:28] <reisio> Ankoran: if you use checkinstall :)
[05:28] <bynarie> i guess it prolly wouldnt
[05:28] <reisio> bynarie: not unless you compiled'm using its tools
[05:28] <bynarie> ok
[05:29] <phunyguy> Ankoran: you can usually set the prefix dir to something to isolate it all to one folder
[05:29] <phunyguy> ./configure --prefix="/usr/local" for example
[05:29] <Ankoran> thanks phunyguy i got it all removed now
[05:29] <phunyguy> k
[05:29] <reisio> aw, you didn't have to actually support someone just for me, phunyguy :p
[05:29] <reisio> now my log of you not supporting anyone ever is ruined :D
[05:29] <bynarie> lol
[05:29] <Ankoran> i just wrote a quick bash script to delete all asterisk stuff since I knew where it was going
[05:29] <reisio> Ankoran: that's cheating
[05:29] <phunyguy> I asked you to drop it.
[05:29] <Ankoran> phunyguy, is a buddy
[05:30] <reisio> phunyguy: drop what?
[05:30] <phunyguy> the offtopic chatter.
[05:30] <reisio> you're the one talking about chatter
[05:30] <phunyguy> yes, I am allowed to ask it to stop.
[05:31] <sonetea> reisio: phunyguy, has a point. This is a channel for ubuntu support, and shouldn't be used on anything not ubuntu related.
[05:31] <reisio> sonetea: I don't think that was his point, he meant ubuntu _support_ related
[05:31] <bynarie> come on fellas.. lets just be friendly and not have trouble
[05:31] <bynarie> =]
[05:31] <sonetea> If you don't like it you can fork the irc channel :^)
[05:31] <phunyguy> yes, please, let's.
[05:31] <reisio> so true
[05:34] <bynarie> reisio.. i know you have helped me on some issues in the past so i appreciate your efforts
[05:34] <bynarie> and you too phunyguy
[05:34]  * phunyguy nods
[05:34]  * daftykins shakes his head
[05:34]  * reisio doesn't emote 'cause it's off topic
[05:35]  * reisio rolls eyes though, that's vital to support
[05:35] <bynarie> daftykins, you as well
[05:35] <reisio> daftykins: you too
[05:35] <daftykins> can the circle-jerk stop and get back to the purpose of the channel now?
[05:35] <daftykins> night night \o
[05:36] <reisio> I'm pretty sure it's just going to be quiet until enough new people who haven't seen phunyguy whining have joined
[05:36] <reisio> mission accomplished
[05:42] <jstrem> that's confusing
[05:47] <BUSY> where can i find wine support?
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> !ask | BUSY
[05:47] <rww> BUSY: here (if you're using Ubuntu underneath it) or #winehq
[05:48] <symbiosisstarshi> BUSY: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine
[05:48] <grom> how do I change the ownership of a directory? I'm trying to remove it, and it won't allow me
[05:48] <BUSY> dota is running poorly on native steam linux and i wanted to give it a try via wine, but i'm super clueless as to what to do. i am dual booting and i have the win exes already in another partition, can i reuse those or do i need to start from scratch?
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> !permissions | grom
[05:50] <BUSY> it's listed as platinum, which looks to be the best category, but there are 0 directions
[05:50] <BUSY> i'm unfamiliar with wine as a platform at all
[05:53] <BUSY> can i reuse all of the win files? or is it more common to start off with an install?
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> BUSY: did you check if your game is on playonlinux?
[06:00] <BUSY> lotuspsychje: it's not. it's through steam, which has its own native ubuntu client, but it just seems like a different set of drivers causing overheating and glitchy cpu results.
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> BUSY: i dont think wine will result better, did you try other grafix drivers?
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> BUSY: tweak your ubuntu system to optimized gaming
[06:01] <BUSY> wasn't even sure where to look, this was my first idea because it runs fine on the windows boot
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> BUSY: maybe this can help: http://www.howtogeek.com/132549/6-tips-for-improving-game-performance-with-steam-on-linux/
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> BUSY: i would tweak swappiness and install preload also, clean your system and such
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> !info preload | BUSY
[06:08] <BUSY> lotuspsychje: what do you mean by tweak swappiness?
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> BUSY: default its on 60, you can tweak value to 10, make system bit faster
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> BUSY: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[06:09] <Nekker> quit
[06:10] <bynarie> BUSY, swappiness is a setting that determines when the swap will kick in
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> BUSY: the smoother your system operates, the smoother steam will flow
[06:11] <BUSY> i think i'll double the size of my swap partition also
[06:11] <BUSY> from what i'm reading
[06:12] <BUSY> but i guess i'll have to resize from a live gparted disk
[06:14] <bynarie> BUSY, sudo swapoff -a
[06:14] <bynarie> then resize
[06:14] <bynarie> then swapon -a
[06:14] <BUSY> i have to extend from the ubuntu boot partition i'm on though :(
[06:14] <bynarie> oh ok
[06:15] <bynarie> yea prolly have to boot from live cd or usb
[06:15] <BUSY> it's ok i've got one handy anyway
[06:15] <BUSY> just going to read through the rest of this before i take it on
[06:15] <bynarie> busy, run "cat /proc/sys/vm/swappiness"
[06:15] <bynarie> it will give your settings
[06:15] <BUSY> yeah 60 as mentioned
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> set to 10
[06:16] <BUSY> just in vi or something?
[06:16] <BUSY> can i just edit that file
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> yep or gedit
[06:16] <bynarie> yep
[06:16] <bynarie> but thats not the file you edit
[06:17] <BUSY> yeah, can't open file for writing
[06:17] <lotuspsychje> gksudo gedit /etc/sysctl.conf
[06:17] <bynarie> "sudo gedit /etc/sysctl.conf"
[06:17] <bynarie> vm.swappiness=10
[06:17] <BUSY> no similar line exists, just create it?
[06:17] <bynarie> yep
[06:17] <bynarie> it doesnt exist
[06:18] <BUSY> will take a reboot to change the process or will swapoff above work?
[06:18] <bynarie> so basically when you set vm.swappiness=10, thats telling linux to start using swap when u only have around 10% of physical ram left
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> BUSY: after you installed preload, might be usefull to reboot also
[06:19] <BUSY> wouldn't higher be better though?
[06:19] <bynarie> busy, after you save the file.... goto term and do "sudo sysctl vm.swappiness=10"
[06:19] <bynarie> that will make it live
[06:19] <BUSY> yep!
[06:19] <bynarie> BUSY, how much ram you got?
[06:19] <BUSY> 2g
[06:19] <BUSY> and 2g swap also
[06:20] <bynarie> BUSY, IMO i would set swappiness to about 50 or 60
[06:20] <BUSY> yeah i feel that a lower number would only hurt?
[06:20] <bynarie> it would depend
[06:20] <bynarie> i have 32GB of ram, so mine is set to 10
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> i would try 10, see how things go
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> you can always change after
[06:21] <bynarie> true^^
[06:21] <bynarie> play with the settings and see what works for you
[06:21] <BUSY> why am i throttling the swap use though? don't i want to utilize it more?
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> BUSY: the overall system smoothness will have good effect on steam
[06:22] <BUSY> ok
[06:22] <bynarie> open task manager and see what your memory usage is... base it off of that
[06:23] <bynarie> the higher your usage, the higher setting
[06:23] <bynarie> but lotuspsychje is right.. steam will perform much better on ram instead of swap file
[06:23] <lotuspsychje> BUSY: buy an ssd for ubuntu can be real ahndy also :p
[06:23] <lotuspsychje> handy
[06:23] <bynarie> no doubt
[06:24] <BUSY> i honestly thought it was just the cpu working too hard, but maybe a bit more ram or a smoother drive would help with that
[06:24] <lotuspsychje> BUSY: yes it will, all small tweaks can help you
[06:24] <bynarie> BUSY, definitely need more ram if you are gaming
[06:25] <BUSY> it's a bummer because it works fine on windows D:
[06:25] <BUSY> just too much process to reboot all the time
[06:25] <bynarie> lotuspsychje, thanks for the firmware insight.. i looked into my other crucial ssd and that one needs a firmware update too
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> bynarie: no sweat :p
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> BUSY: tweak your startup items too, the less unwanted services the better
[06:26] <bynarie> BUSY, i have pretty good hardware and steam runs like crap for me on linux too
[06:26] <BUSY> where can i find those lotuspsychje?
[06:26] <bynarie> core i7 3.4ghz cpu, 32gb ram, geforce 770m, and SSD.. still runs like crap
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> BUSY: in startup items icon, lemme find you command to show full list
[06:27] <bynarie> menu->settings->session and startup
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> BUSY: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ShowHiddenStartupApplications
[06:27] <BUSY> XD bluetooth manager
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> bynarie: that makes no sense steam cant run fine on your specs..
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> bynarie: did you read that gaming url above?
[06:29] <bynarie> i didnt see url, can u post again
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> bynarie: http://www.howtogeek.com/132549/6-tips-for-improving-game-performance-with-steam-on-linux/
[06:30] <bynarie> thx
[06:31] <bynarie> hmmmmm
[06:31] <bynarie> maybe its because its trying to use my intel card
[06:32] <bynarie> and the game is old.. its CS 1.6
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> bynarie: omg :p thats should be rocketfast on your specs
[06:32] <bynarie> u would think so right? lol.. i get like 25 fps
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> bynarie: your on 14.10?
[06:32] <bynarie> i know something aint configured right
[06:32] <bynarie> yea 14.10
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> bynarie: what i would do, is a fresh 14.04 with updates/cable on during setup
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> bynarie: and make sure bios is set on your main grafix card
[06:33] <bynarie> that is EXACTLY what i did lol
[06:34] <bynarie> i started with 14.04 and upgraded
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> bynarie: did it run better on 14.04?
[06:34] <bynarie> bios has no setting for video card preference... they both run..
[06:34] <bynarie> i didnt try it
[06:34] <bynarie> i can choose my video card with nvidia-settings tho
[06:35] <lotuspsychje> bynarie: 14.10 is just for 9months right, maybe try switching drivers on 14.04 first
[06:35] <bynarie> ok
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> bynarie: your system should be a bomb :p
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> bynarie: and your evo firmware first :p
[06:36] <bynarie> well atleast i do kno that i am using the right driver.. nvidia proprietary
[06:36] <bynarie> gotcha!
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> bynarie: the right driver, is the one that runs smoothest
[06:37] <bynarie> yep.. which happens to be the nvidia
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> bynarie: dont your additional drivers have more drivers to show?
[06:41] <bynarie> nvidia and noveua x.org or w/e
[06:42] <lotuspsychje> bynarie: i would go back to trusty, see how your steam runs there
[06:46] <Jeeves_Moss> hey everyone, I'm doing a fresh install of Zabbix on a Ubuntu system, but i'm getting an error.  The error is http://pastebin.com/4GTr5Pge
[07:02] <disto> hello
[07:08] <AlbertoCG> disto, hello
[07:13] <SynthAxe> whats up
[07:13] <disto> AlbertoCG hi
[07:13] <disto> macosx and ubuntu both they come from unix right ?
[07:14] <SynthAxe> yes
[07:14] <disto> but how ?
[07:14] <disto> i mean macos is closed protochol right ?
[07:20] <bynarie> disto
[07:21] <bynarie> mac os didnt come from unix exactly... macos IS unix... mac os is technically a unix specification OS
[07:21] <SynthAxe> does wine support outlook 2013 and lync?
[07:21] <Ben64> !appdb | SynthAxe
[07:22] <nrdb> I am testing a ltsp setup (using VMs) when I boot the client it does start ... but does't show a login request ... I have lts.conf setup for "shell" and "ldm" ... I can switch to the "shell" screen ... but the "ldm" only shows a "_" (i.e. its blank) ... can I manually start ldm from the "shell" screen?
[07:22] <justus> hey i have a corrupt file
[07:22] <bynarie> linux is technically a UNIX CLONE... and as we all know.. ubuntu is just a linux distro.. technically its GNU/linux.. linux being the KERNEL
[07:23] <justus> Hi guys
[07:23] <bynarie> hi justus
[07:23] <bynarie> whats corrupt
[07:23] <justus> i have a corrupt file that is permissions blocked
[07:23] <codex_> hi
[07:23] <justus> i am in root mode
[07:23] <justus> in ubuntu
[07:23] <levo> i'v got a BM338 Hauwei wimax usb modem. my os is ubuntu 14.04.1. i tried to use "wimaxc" to search the device and connect via it to the internet but i got "ERROR: Device I/O control request failed." which after googling i found out is due to my 64bit arch, is there any way for me to successfully connect to the internet via this device on this OS?
[07:23] <codex_> has anyone here run the doomsday engine?
[07:24] <Ben64> justus: explain more, pastebin anything that would help us understand, tell us what you want to accomplish
[07:24] <justus> Sure
[07:24] <nrdb> justus, what about the directory that file is in?
[07:24] <justus> symbolic link in /usr/local/bin/.
[07:24] <justus> i am trying to create a symbolic link
[07:25] <justus> to that folder
[07:25] <justus> and
[07:25] <codex_> I'm having a problem with doomsday and I can't find anything helpful on the web
[07:25] <justus> there is a file that already exists with the same name
[07:25] <justus> i cant delete
[07:25] <justus> which is corrupt
[07:25] <justus> and i need to delete
[07:25] <Ben64> justus: it would really help if you explained it more concisely, on one line, and pastebin exactly what you're talking about
[07:25] <codex_> when I run dooms day, and start any wad file, the player walks in cirles to the left
[07:26] <codex_> can't get rid of it
[07:26] <nrdb> justus, don't use <enter> as punctuation.
[07:26] <justus> do you mean in chat?
[07:26] <bynarie> yes
[07:27] <justus> Sorry!
[07:27] <justus> Let me pastbin this
[07:27] <bynarie> good call justus
[07:28] <SynthAxe> why cant i install a windows app that is on the wine appdb via wine
[07:29] <nrdb> I am testing a ltsp setup (using VMs) when I boot the client it does start ... but does't show a login request ... I have lts.conf setup for "shell" and "ldm" ... I can switch to the "shell" screen ... but the "ldm" only shows a "_" (i.e. its blank) ... can I manually start ldm from the "shell" screen?
[07:30] <Ben64> SynthAxe: follow the instructions on the appdb, for help with wine, join #winehq
[07:30] <SynthAxe> thanks
[07:32] <bynarie> SynthAxe, dont use wine
[07:32] <bynarie> use whiskey!
[07:32] <Ben64> bynarie: that's not helpful
[07:32] <bynarie> sheesh its just a joke
[07:33] <bynarie> sorry
[07:33] <Ben64> yeah, but jokes don't belong in the support channel is all
[07:33] <justus> Thank you for your patience! I am back
[07:33] <justus> http://pastebin.com/GE9TntW4
[07:34] <bynarie> ok
[07:34] <bynarie> well i do have a serious question... so i DO have firefox set as my default browser... yet every link opens in chrome... any ideas?
[07:35] <Ben64> justus: what is the output of "ls -l /usr/local/bin/sassc"
[07:35] <justus> Try uninstalling both
[07:35] <justus> Ben64 hold on
[07:35] <justus> This is the output: ln: failed to create symbolic link ‘sassc’: File exists
[07:36] <EleanorEllis> Is there an IRC channel for the Google Chrome browser?
[07:36] <Ben64> justus: note in the command i just gave you, it is "ls" not "ln"
[07:36] <justus> oh!
[07:37] <DrManhattan> ubuntu 14.04 is unable to see all 4 of my hard drives in either RAID or AHCI mode on my AMD 760G chipset motherboard
[07:37] <DrManhattan> Is there any solution for this?
[07:37] <bynarie> nevermind i got it figured out
[07:37] <justus> So Ben64
[07:38] <justus> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 Dec  5 22:54 /usr/local/bin/sassc -> ../lib/sassc/bin/sassc
[07:38] <justus> I am assuming success?
[07:38] <Ben64> looks like how you were trying to have it
[07:38] <nrdb> justus, looks like it was done for you.
[07:39] <mike123> EleanorEllis: did you try chromium
[07:39] <EleanorEllis> mike123: Apparently that is for development only
[07:40] <justus> nrdb, But what if that is a corrupt symbolic link from before?
[07:40] <EleanorEllis> Maybe somebody here will know: In both google chrome and firefox, when I try to force a hard refresh, both browsers do not load the most recent version of my page so they are still loading from some cache somewhere
[07:41] <nrdb> nrdb, a symbolic link can't be corrupt, it can only point to an incorrect destination... now the destination could be corrupt.
[07:41] <nrdb> justus, a symbolic link can't be corrupt, it can only point to an incorrect destination... now the destination could be corrupt.
[07:42] <justus> Hmm
[07:42] <EleanorEllis> but oddly both firefox and chrome browsers load different versions of the page, neither of which is the current one. Well, one is the current page but doesn't reload the style sheet so I can't test any changes to my style sheet.
[07:43] <nrdb> justus, do you understand what a 'link' is?
[07:43] <mike123> EleanorEllis: try holding shift or ctrl then f5 i think
[07:43] <justus> Well I am kind of new, in a sense that I only recognize link from code
[07:43] <justus> nrdb What is link?
[07:44] <mike123> EleanorEllis: maybe ctrl r
[07:44] <EleanorEllis> mike123: Yes I tried that. Perhaps I should ask in the web development channel. Trouble is when I upgraded ubuntu I lost all my irc chat channels I had stored in pidgin
[07:45] <DrManhattan> ubuntu 14.04 is unable to see all 4 of my hard drives in either RAID or AHCI mode on my AMD 760G chipset motherboard - is there any solution for this?
[07:45] <nrdb> justus, it kind of the same... a link is just another directory entry ... it points to the original files directory entry... in is really a way of having two (or more) names for one file.
[07:45] <EleanorEllis> mike123: I also tried holding down the refresh button and selecting "Empty cache and hard reload" which is enabled when the "Inspect element" panel is open
[07:47] <justus> What Should I do?
[07:47] <justus> Did the output of ls command show that it is correctly linked?
[07:50] <justus> and the sassc file  that is in the permissions blocked folder states: This link cannot be used because its target “../lib/sassc/bin/sassc” doesn't exist
[07:52] <mehdi__> how can i add multiple dns ? i edit resolv.conf but it reverts
[07:54] <Ben64> justus: what is the output of "ls -l /usr/local/lib/sassc/bin/sassc"
[07:54] <justus> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1308652 Dec  6 01:23 /usr/local/lib/sassc/bin/sassc
[07:54] <nrdb> justus, according to your paste the link is correct....  but is sassc where you expect!  I wonder.
[07:55] <justus> I have no idea nrdb
[07:57] <nrdb> justus, what is the result of      find /usr -iname 'sassc'
[07:57] <justus> nrdb: /usr/bin/sassc /usr/local/lib/sassc /usr/local/lib/sassc/bin/sassc /usr/local/bin/sassc
[07:58] <justus> can you read that
[07:58] <nrdb> justus, yes.
[07:58] <Ben64> maybe the /usr/bin/sassc is messing it up
[07:58] <Ben64> ls -l /usr/bin/sassc
[07:59] <mehdi__> ubottu, dns
[07:59] <justus> Ben64
[08:00] <justus> I typed that command into terminal
[08:00] <nrdb> justus, so the output?
[08:01] <justus> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 Dec  5 22:43 /usr/bin/sassc -> /home/phil/sassc/bin/sassc
[08:02] <nrdb> justus, ahh! .... but the destination file isn't one of those found by the 'find' command!
[08:03] <nrdb> justus, try a     rm /usr/bin/sassc; ln -s /usr/local/bin/sassc/bin/sassc /usr/bin/sassc
[08:03] <justus> Ok!
[08:04] <justus> Hold on
[08:05] <justus> Done
[08:06] <nrdb> justus, how does it work?
[08:06] <justus> Let me run it
[08:06] <mehdi__> ubottu, bind
[08:07] <justus> All I did was I used the sassc command
[08:07] <justus> and i had to use ctrl c to get out of it
[08:09] <nrdb> justus, sounds like it working... it probably was waiting for you to enter a program (line by line) ... try giving it a source file to work with.
[08:09] <justus> yeah thats what I thought
[08:09] <justus> i hope this works
[08:10] <justus> i think you fixed the problem!
[08:10] <justus> but hold on
[08:11] <nrdb> justus, good .... don't forget about the 'make' program ... with 'C' it makes things a lot easier.
[08:11] <justus> I learned C when I was coding in R
[08:11] <justus> I think that was the same C
[08:12] <justus> but the make function
[08:12] <nrdb> justus, not a function a program ... it automates the compiling and linking etc.
[08:13] <justus> Oh wow
[08:13] <justus> To compile a scss file and compress it with a source map you would run the following?
[08:14] <justus> sassc style.scss -o style.css -t compressed -g
[08:14] <justus> but 'o' is an invalid option
[08:16] <nrdb> justus, no idea never used 'sassc'
[08:17] <justus> explain the make program
[08:17] <Ben64> i'm sure google could do a much better job at explaining it
[08:17] <justus> Lol thanks for everything
[08:18] <justus> Will donate to Ubuntu
[08:19] <justus> Later guys
[08:36] <Taggnostr2> trism, usbip worked, thanks for the help
[08:46] <bittyx-desktop> Hi! I'm using Ubuntu 14.04.1 on my laptop, and I couldn't find how to configure something - when I close my laptop lid, the laptop goes to sleep. When I open it, it wakes up, but goes straight back to what I was doing, without a login screen. I'm currently "solving" this problem by manually locking the screen before closing the laptop lid, but this is gonna get old pretty soon.
[08:46] <bittyx-desktop> I'd like it to automatically lock before it goes to sleep - how can I configure this?
[08:48] <bittyx-desktop> Also, if this is something handled by the DE (which wouldn't be a surprise), I just want to mention I'm using Cinnamon instead of Unity, and I know Cinnamon isn't officially supported for my release, so in that case, I'd appreciate it if someone could give me a hint on where to search for my solution. Googling "lock screen on sleep" yields a lot of results where people *don't* want their screen to lock.
[08:48] <bittyx-desktop> Thanks in advance!
[09:07] <aiur> hello
[09:08] <chris_> hello
[09:19] <Farioko> My integrated microphone doesn't work, how do I fix it?
[09:27] <r_a_x> I am running ubuntu 12.04 LTS and my software center do not show the install option
[09:28] <piknockyou> Hi there! I was wondering, if it makes any sense to install an older version of Lubuntu to gain even more speed. Do you think this makes sense? Would I actually gain more speed? What could the disadvantes be?
[09:29] <cfhowlett> piknockyou, use the LTS version.
[09:30] <cfhowlett> r_a_x, system > install
[09:31] <gansteed> where can i get the latest version package of virt-manager?  the ppas i have get do not contain a trusty version ;(
[09:32] <r_a_x> cfhowlett: Sorry I didn't get you!!
[09:33] <gansteed> e.g:https://launchpad.net/~virt-manager/+archive/ubuntu/daily
[09:35] <r_a_x> is there any way I could find if the ubuntu install was successful or not??
[09:36] <piknockyou> cfhowlett, what has the LTS version to do with the speed? It is just the support, isn't it? I would prefer Lubuntu, I was just wondering if an older version is even more resourcefriendly.
[09:38] <seriousscandinav> piknockyou: It's just support.
[09:38] <Ben64> piknockyou: it really depends on what you run on it, not the version, lts is just best because of the support length and stability
[09:38] <mbs_> wtf ?
[09:39] <piknockyou> Thank you for the info, but my question was originally another: Does it make any sense to install an older version of Lubuntu to gain more speed?
[09:39] <Ben64> piknockyou: no
[09:40] <genericum> i am a bit lost my windows wlan connection works but not so my linux connection
[09:40] <genericum> is there a way to remodel it ?
[09:41] <piknockyou> Ben64, why is that so? Older realeases were originally develeoped for less adavanced computers, aren't they?
[09:42] <Ben64> piknockyou: fine, do what you want
[09:44] <piknockyou> Ben64, I didn't said you are wrong. I have no idea at all. I am just asking and was wondering why older versions wouldn't be lighter?
[09:45] <Ben64> piknockyou: i explained it, i'm really not interested in arguing about it
[09:46] <piknockyou> Ben64, Sorry, maybe I didn't get your message, would you mind resending it, pls?
[09:46] <Ben64> piknockyou: it really depends on what you run on it, not the version, lts is just best because of the support length and stability
[09:47] <piknockyou> Okay, now I got the content, can you send me a link for x86 Lubuntu LTS?
[09:48] <r_a_x> sudo apt-get update is not working in my 12.04 LTS
[09:48] <r_a_x> I get the error W: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[09:48] <user3452626> excuse me. i have problem : "but your computer or network may be sending automated queries. To protect our users, we can't process your request right now." how to fix it ??
[09:48] <Ben64> piknockyou: lubuntu.net ?
[09:49] <user3452626> i'm use firefox+ubuntu
[09:51] <user3452626> *excuse me. i have problem : "but your computer or network may be sending automated queries. To protect our users, we can't process your request right now." how to fix it ?. i have restart modem, ut it is not fix.
[09:51] <user3452626> *but
[09:52] <user3452626> hello anyone can help me?
[09:52] <piknockyou> thanks, is that the LTS version?
[09:52] <piknockyou> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu/14.04.1
[09:52] <Ben64> yep, 14.04 is the latest LTS
[09:53] <Tobias4X> 14.04.1 is latest
[09:53] <r_a_x> piknockyou: my software center do not have install option
[09:53] <piknockyou> thanks. how can I get NO image. I would like it to run from USB
[09:53] <Tobias4X> but that is still 14.04, just a tad newer piknockyou
[09:53] <r_a_x> piknockyou: and I am using the 12.04 LTS
[09:54] <Tobias4X> piknockyou: why cant you get an image?
[09:54] <Tobias4X> r_a_x: try synaptic
[09:54] <user3452626> Ben64, excuse me sir. is ubuntu can infected by malware?. when i use google translate i get message :"but your computer or network may be sending automated queries. To protect our users, we can't process your request right now.". how to solve that?
[09:54] <piknockyou> Would you recommend me 14.04 or 12.04?
[09:55] <Ben64> 14.04
[09:55] <piknockyou> Tobias4X, I have no CD-Slot, I need itto run from USB
[09:55] <piknockyou> Thanks Ben64
[09:56] <Ben64> user3452626: sounds like a google error, not ubuntu
[09:56] <piknockyou> Okay, got it I guess. http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[09:56] <Tobias4X> piknockyou: yeah why can't you get an image? both isos can be written directly to usb
[09:56] <Tobias4X> piknockyou: download the iso and use win32diskimager on windows, dd terminal command on linux or unetbootin
[09:56] <user3452626> Ben64, ok sir, thx very much.
[09:57] <r_a_x> Tobias4X: When I run  sudo apt-get install I gets the following error "Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done Package synaptic is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source  E: Package 'synaptic' has no installation candidate"
[09:57] <piknockyou> okay, thank you guys! I will try it!
[09:58] <Tobias4X> r_a_x: this sounds strongly like your package lists are corrupted
[09:59] <r_a_x> Tobias4X: Do I need to install the ubuntu again??
[09:59] <piknockyou> It is 6 years since I last used Ubuntu, I was wondering if you could recommend me a good WINDOWS-Emulator?
[09:59] <piknockyou> I remeber WINE
[09:59] <piknockyou> *remember
[10:00] <Ben64> well, Wine Is Not an Emulator
[10:00] <Tobias4X> r_a_x: please open a terminal, do  ' apt-get update ' try again and if the error persists please post the output of  '  cat /etc/sources.list  '
[10:00] <Tobias4X> piknockyou: Wine is an layer inbetween them but is the best open source windows application enabler atm, if you wanna throw money away look over to corssover
[10:01] <Tobias4X> crossover*
[10:03] <Tobias4X> r_a_x: also dont worry, you dont need to reinstall ubuntu, this can happen out of nowhere and usually is fixed by a reboot, if not we try to help users
[10:03] <piknockyou> Got no money, I'll try WINE then again. I am getting a bit nostalgic ^^
[10:03] <r_a_x> Tobias4X: cat: /etc/sources.list: No such file or directory
[10:03] <r_a_x> Tobias4X: I have installed this version a week ago
[10:03] <Tobias4X> r_a_x: ls /etc/apt
[10:03] <Tobias4X> sorry forgot the apt ^^'
[10:04] <Tobias4X> piknockyou: if you mean old DOS things tough there is DOSbox, also look out for compatible games on winehq, i found out already that some games simply wont run anyway because hardware can be too new (starship troopers for example refuses to work)
[10:05] <Tobias4X> piknockyou: https://www.winehq.org
[10:06] <Tobias4X> r_a_x: what does 'ls /etc/apt' say? also  cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:07] <r_a_x> Tobias4X: apt.conf    preferences.d   sources.list.save  trusted.gpg~ apt.conf~   sources.list    trustdb.gpg        trusted.gpg.d apt.conf.d  sources.list.d  trusted.gpg
[10:07] <piknockyou> thanks a lot. I am not looking for gaming at all.
[10:07] <r_a_x> Tobias4X: # deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS _Trusty Tahr_ - Release i386 (20140722.2)]/ trusty main restricted  # See http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for how to upgrade to # newer versions of the distribution. deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty main restricted  ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the ## distribution. deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty-updates main restricted  ## N
[10:08] <piknockyou> If I export Chrome-Bookmarks from Windows, I will be able to import them into Chrome at Lubuntu, right?
[10:08] <piknockyou> Same .html thing, isn't it?
[10:09] <Tobias[L]> piknockyou: jep
[10:10] <Tobias[L]> r_a_x: if 'apt-get update'  then 'apt-get upgrade' and lastly 'dpkg-reconfigure -a' cant fix that something bigger is f*cked up
[10:12] <linux> hey how to i change the dash size in unity 14.10
[10:13] <r_a_x> Tobias[L]:  I have run dpkg-reconfigure -a and it is asking m for additional home directories
[10:14] <r_a_x> Tobias[L]: I want to know which is better option fixing it or installing a fresh copy (I don't have any  problem in installing again)
[10:17] <Ben64> r_a_x: pastebin the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:18] <r_a_x> Ben64: http://pastebin.com/0PTnVTHE
[10:20] <Tobias[L]> Ben64: r_a_x: weve already did this, everything in his sources.list is okay
[10:21] <r_a_x> Tobias[L]: Ben64 I want to know which is better option fixing it or installing a fresh copy (I don't have any  problem in installing again)
[10:23] <Tobias[L]> r_a_x: reinstalling will likely be faster, depending on your pc and internet speed
[10:23] <Ben64> probably don't need to reinstall for this
[10:23] <Georg> does anybody know which services nautilus will show in the network overview? On Ubuntu I can see my Arch linux even if no samba is active. Any ideas what it could be?
[10:24] <Ben64> r_a_x: and i thought you said you were on 12.04
[10:24] <Tobias[L]> Georg: Avahi
[10:24] <Georg> Tobias[L], oh cool thats!!!
[10:25] <r_a_x> Ben64: i am on 14.04 lts
 piknockyou: and I am using the 12.04 LTS
[10:25] <Ben64> not what you said earlier...
[10:31] <r_a_x> Ben64: I am using 14.04 LTS
[10:32] <Ben64> r_a_x: pastebin the output of "lsb_release -a; sudo apt-get update; apt-cache policy synaptic dpkg"
[10:32] <Tobias[L]> Georg: np, some networks dont support it tough
[10:33] <Georg> Tobias[L], now I need to find a way to get samba working and disable the avahi part which shows my host name a second time in the network overview
[10:35] <rishianand> hiiii
[10:35] <rishianand> h r u
[10:36] <rishianand> kaise ho aap log....
[10:37] <Tobias[L]> rishianand: please use english and ask your question
[10:38] <rishianand> how are you...
[10:38] <cfhowlett> rishianand, this is not a social/dating channel.  ask your ubuntu support question
[10:38] <cfhowlett> !ask | rishianand
[10:39] <r_a_x> Ben64: http://justpaste.it/ib7t
[10:40] <rishianand> new version of unbottu.......
[10:41] <Tobias[L]> rishianand: please ask your exact problem and give as many additional info as possible, my magic glassball doesnt work that well today
[10:41] <cfhowlett> rishianand, what language do you speakk?
[10:41] <cfhowlett> *speak*?
[10:42] <rishianand> cfhowlett: my first language is hindi. but i speak eglish too.
[10:42] <geirha> r_a_x: Have you set up some proxy for apt at some point?
[10:43] <r_a_x> geirha: yes /etc/apt/apt.conf file
[10:43] <cfhowlett> !in | rishianand
[10:44] <geirha> r_a_x: So that proxy isn't working, apparently
[10:44] <r_a_x> geirha: But I have set the same proxy on browser I am able to browse
[10:45] <geirha> r_a_x: so using that proxy, you can open http://archive.ubuntu.com/ ?
[10:46] <r_a_x> geirha: yes
[10:47] <geirha> r_a_x: Don't know then, other than double check that you haven't made a typo in the apt config
[10:51] <floown> Hello
[10:51] <floown> I have a big email-log from Logwatch, I have these lines : http://pastebin.com/fkE2HGYN
[10:52] <bekks> floown: And?
[10:52] <r_a_x> geirha:  its ok
[10:52] <floown> bekks: someone can help me please?
[10:53] <bekks> floown: Do you just have those lines in the logs or a specific resulting problem?
[10:53] <r_a_x> geirha: When I left on screen, i gets onyl three options " new folder " " new documents " " properties" is my ubuntu installed correctly and completely
[10:54] <floown> bekks: I have no problem, I just have this big log
[10:55] <bekks> floown: Those messages are generated by logwatch.
[10:57] <r_a_x> geirha: when i left click
[10:57] <floown> sure, but what can I do bekks?
[10:58] <geirha> r_a_x: Doesn't sound like the default desktop environment/window manager
[10:59] <r_a_x> geirha: there is no install option in software center
[10:59] <rustyraptor> !find  mysql_config
[11:00] <cfhowlett> goal: change xfce screenshot from default ZimageZ host to something else.  Method?
[11:00] <bekks> floown: Either fix the input or use another logwatch version. Actually those messages can be ignored safely.
[11:01] <floown> ok, thx
[11:01] <jcrubino> how can I find the compiler that was used for a package?  Specifically the postgresql database?
[11:07] <Mega1> ubuntu server 14.04 how do you ssh as root
[11:07] <cfhowlett> !server | Mega1
[11:14] <Ben64> Mega1: root ssh is disabled by default and for good reason
[11:36] <Remie> Anybody available to help me with dspam ?
[11:37] <bekks> Remie: Not without a specific question :)
[11:37] <Remie> well i can't install it, running ubuntu server 14.10
[11:38] <Remie> i looked @ the launchpad page and it seams that it has been deleted, but i cant find why
[11:38] <cfhowlett> !server | Remie,
[11:38] <Remie> oke wrong channel it is
[11:40] <BorgCuba> hi, I have usb0 (connected to a device with g_ether) and a wifi connection (internet). When the usb0 connection is acctivated, I dont have internet access, any ideas why this is so?
[11:41] <BorgCuba> ahh, I think I have it
[11:46] <BorgCuba> works!
[11:46] <c0mrad3> can any one say how to downlaod files from this website recursively http://shell-storm.org/repo/CTF/ using wget or curl
[11:47] <ezech> c0mrad3, man wget has something about mirroring websites
[11:48] <c0mrad3> so what how should i do that
[11:48] <c0mrad3> ezech:
[11:48] <ezech> c0mrad3, well, I could open a terminal, enter 'man wget', read about it, learn it and then write it here for you
[11:48] <ezech> it'll be much more efficient if you did that though
[11:49] <c0mrad3> ya just give me the command ezech :)
[11:49] <BorgCuba> c0mrad3, what about this: http://www.guyrutenberg.com/2014/05/02/make-offline-mirror-of-a-site-using-wget/
[11:49] <ezech> not trying to bounce you with rtf or anything, but it's just faster and easier for you
[11:49] <ezech> c0mrad3, oh, the command, sure - rm -rf / ;)
[11:50] <ezech> just in case - it's a joke so don't enter that :)
[11:50] <BorgCuba> probably prefixed by sudo ?
[11:50] <c0mrad3> ya done permission denied :P
[11:50] <Chuck_Norris> c0mrad3: try httrack
[11:50] <ezech> BorgCuba, no need, it'll clean your home quite well, rest is restorable :)
[11:50] <c0mrad3> should have added sudo -i
[11:51] <ezech> friend did that at work - we did laugh about it eventually
[11:51] <c0mrad3> or should have tried sudo mv /home/ /dev/null
[11:51] <Ben64> don't show those commands in this channel
[11:51] <ezech> c0mrad3, dd /dev/zero > /dev/sda
[11:51] <BorgCuba> btw, how does wget find out all the files on the server? via links in html files?
[11:51] <Chuck_Norris> c0mrad3: sudo apt-get install httrack -y --force-yes && httrack http://shell-storm.org/repo/CTF/
[11:51] <ezech> or it's differently spelled
[11:51] <c0mrad3> ya ezech
[11:52] <ezech> c0mrad3, but wget is the tool you want, just get the proper switches for mirror mode and you're set
[11:53] <ezech> I've borrowed some book collection at one time with it
[11:53] <BorgCuba> c0mrad3, have you read the link I posted? It looks like thats just what you want.
[11:53] <c0mrad3> let me give a try here
[11:53] <Chuck_Norris> c0mrad3: i thinkin in httrack that url too dat guy is a tough one -.-
[11:53] <c0mrad3> yea BorgCuba wget -mkEpnp http://example.org
[11:53] <BorgCuba> yes, does it work?
[11:55] <Riberi79> Hello
[11:55] <fossdevil> I am planning to upgrade(?) from 14.04 32 bits to 64 bits because apparently Android Virtual Machine support is going to be removed for 32 bits. Should I be careful about a few things?
[11:56] <Chuck_Norris> c0mrad3: you can never know if a command will work 'cause maybe you gotta use an user agent or maybe set a delay in betwean request and a lot of other think like httaccess etc
[11:56] <Ben64> fossdevil: upgrade is impossible, you need to install 64bit fresh
[11:56] <BorgCuba> what do you ppl think about ubuntu? I noticed that the time it takes from pushing the power button to getting to the desktop has probably increased by a factor of 10 since I installed it.
[11:57] <fossdevil> Yes that is why the (?), I did not know the correct word for i. Anyway should i do it or just stay with 32 bits?
[11:57] <c0mrad3> no it did not work
[11:57] <Ben64> fossdevil: only you can decide that
[11:57] <ezech> BorgCuba, I was trying several distros lately and I find ubuntu to be the best user-oriented one at the moment
[11:58] <c0mrad3> ya sure I call ubuntu as windows version for linux
[11:58] <ezech> I was considering fedora, ubuntu, opensuse, and archlinux because someone told me I'm not up to the task :D
[11:58] <c0mrad3> :P
[11:58] <ezech> and centos 7
[11:58] <ezech> all of them beside ubuntu and opensuse are throwing bug reports at user for no reason
[11:59] <BorgCuba> I think I'll try out some other distros when I get a new pc
[11:59] <ezech> opensuse looks less modern
[11:59] <Ben64> please take the offtopic talk to #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:59] <ezech> BorgCuba, new fedora is coming, perhaps you may want to try it
[11:59] <cfhowlett> general chit-chat = #ubuntu-offtopic please
[11:59] <c0mrad3> BorgCuba: that is just mirroring
[11:59] <BorgCuba> ezech, yes, I think I will
[11:59] <c0mrad3> the whole sire
[12:00] <BorgCuba> c0mrad3, and you onyl wanted to mirror a subset?
[12:00] <c0mrad3> *site
[12:01] <ezech> wget can mirror a subset I believe - it can set user agent, enter preset passwords and whatnot
[12:01] <c0mrad3> I don't wan't the html pages
[12:01] <c0mrad3> have u seen the repo
[12:01] <c0mrad3> http://shell-storm.org/repo/CTF/CSAW-2011/Reversing/
[12:01] <c0mrad3> it contains the files of ctf
[12:01] <Ben64> then delete them after
[12:02] <c0mrad3> I need only the some files
[12:02] <c0mrad3> no other way than deleting them Ben64 ??
[12:02] <ezech> you can keep them...
[12:02] <Ben64> not easily
[12:02] <ezech> just not read them
[12:05] <c0mrad3> haha ezech
[12:06] <c0mrad3> kk Ben64 I will remove them manually like using rm -rf *html *css etc :)
[12:07] <ezech> c0mrad3, get to know the find command - it's a bomb
[12:07] <c0mrad3> find ??
[12:07] <c0mrad3> I never used it
[12:08] <ezech> it's like find . -name *html -exec rm {} \;  I think
[12:08] <ezech> and it's recursive
[12:08] <ezech> you can add all sorts of parameters as well, time based, attributes whatever file system supports
[12:33] <bibi234> when I install "php5-cgi" with APT, it automatically enables a module in apache, is there a way to avoid that?
[12:35] <Tobias[L]> bibi234: deenabling said module in module.conf
[12:36] <Tobias[L]> bibi234: php checks for installed web servers and registers itself onto them to allow them processing of php pages. it is quite wanted behaviour unless you run more than one server and want to keep apache from processing .php
[12:38] <bibi234> Tobias[L]: yes that's what I'm doing, just wanted to know if it can be avoided. Because I'm using suphp with php-cgi, and having the 2 modules enabled in apache causes failure.
[12:38] <bibi234> because it's for an automation install tool, I'm trying to keep stuff the most simple possible
[12:39] <ezech> bibi234, install php5-cgi before apache?
[12:40] <ezech> or just ignore it and add post-install script to update httpd with your own config
[12:40] <jcrubino> how can I find the compiler that was used for a package?  Specifically the postgresql database?
[12:41] <hikenboot_> hi! i have migrated my root and boot partitions to a new drive. I am not getting a UUID type error, instead I am getting a blinking underline in top left corner of black screen. I have set the boot flag but it didnt fix it... anyone know what causes this?
[12:44] <bibi234> ezech: good idea I'll try this too, but can't it cause problems? I was currently starting installation with most generic packages, then php and the project. I'm thinking that maybe on some cases the apt install would actually help me. I didn't want the apache module to be automatically added, but for example if I install php pdo BEFORE mysql, maybe it won't enable some stuff in mysql? Not...
[12:44] <bibi234> ...sure if you see what I mean? More generally should I take care about the order in which I install apt packages in ubuntu?
[12:45] <ezech> bibi234, generally you want your apache config to be well designed for the purpose - so manual edit is needed anyway
[12:46] <SynthAxe> Hello
[12:46] <ezech> hi
[12:48] <hikenboot_> bibi234, what are you trying to accomplish with apache?
[12:49] <hikenboot_> I run 5 web instances with my apache configuration, so i have a little experience (not a lot but a little)
[12:50] <brokenubuntu> anyone has experienced a endless "removing conflicting operating system files" while upgrading ubuntu?
[12:51] <bibi234> hikenboot_: apache with suphp module (for php-cgi) but that's ok it's working, just had a question about apt "magic" in some situations
[12:51] <Tobias[L]> bibi234: if you install the package it configures the settings by itself, that you dont want to edit them yourself shows more than well that you are not ready for hosting a web server, neither in your own network nor publically
[12:51] <Tobias[L]> brokenubuntu: jes its usual
[12:51] <hikenboot_> ok no problem, I have no experience with suphp...what does it do out of curiousity?
[12:52] <brokenubuntu> I'm trying to upgrade ubuntu right now, but it has 8 hours in this stage "removing conflicting operating system files"
[12:52] <ezech> Tobias[L], you're running web servers with default config?
[12:52] <brokenubuntu> I'm afraid i restar i'll got a inconsistent install
[12:52] <Tobias[L]> brokenubuntu: how slow is your HDD? it should take no longer than 1 hour or so
[12:52] <Tobias[L]> ezech: nope
[12:52] <brokenubuntu> anyone has experienced a endless "removing conflicting operating system files" while upgrading ubuntu? ?
[12:53] <triss> hey all. I want to get rid of a backup partition from my harddrive and make it part of my root partition
[12:53] <Tobias[L]> brokenubuntu: always install fresh
[12:53] <Tobias[L]> brokenubuntu: thats why you make a different /home partition
[12:53] <bibi234> hikenboot_: it can execute a php file as the user and group owner, instead of apache user
[12:53] <ezech> triss, is your root on LVM?
[12:53] <triss> I'd like to make a bootable USB from gparted iso
[12:53] <Tobias[L]> ezech: mine are more secured than my firewalled and heavily secured network XD
[12:54] <brokenubuntu> Tobias[L]: install fresh with different home partition, then after change fstab to point to the old home partition?
[12:54] <bibi234> Tobias[L]: that's not a problem at all, I can edit them, I just want to keep things the simpliest possible
[12:54] <triss> how di check?
[12:54] <ezech> Tobias[L], so you do configure them on your own and not let packages just make changes, right? :)
[12:54] <bibi234> in that case I'll just disable the module after php5-cgi installation then
[12:55] <Tobias[L]> ezech: all config files are set read-only and hidden to most services and yes i edit it myself
[12:56] <Tobias[L]> brokenubuntu: nope you point the installer to your partition and remove the "format" option
[12:56] <brokenubuntu> Tobias[L]: this will keep my stuff?
[12:57] <triss> sorry... how do i check if im using LVM?
[12:57] <ezech> triss, type 'mount'
[12:58] <brokenubuntu> ?
[12:58] <ezech> if there are any 'mapper' entries in 'root' line it's lvm
[12:58] <administrateur> how to join other channel using irssi
[12:58] <ezech> administrateur, /join #chan-name ?
[12:58] <Tobias[L]> brokenubuntu:  as long as you remeber to not tick the checkbox "format"
[12:59] <triss> here's my root line: /dev/sda3 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[12:59] <triss> so the answeers no i guess?
[12:59] <brokenubuntu> ToBeFree: so clean install withouth format
[12:59] <ezech> triss, yeah, it's a regular partition
[12:59] <administrateur> ezech : what are the keyboard shortcuts to do that ??
[13:00] <brokenubuntu> Tobias[L]: so clean install without format
[13:00] <administrateur> ezech ; how to swetch between chanles??
[13:00] <brokenubuntu> am i going to need to reinstall everything?
[13:00] <ezech> administrateur, alt [number] ?
[13:00] <Tobias[L]> brokenubuntu: well wrong user XD but jep install everything else fully anew with format checkbox ticked but your /home should be set to "use as <fs it was before>" and look over it to make sure
[13:00] <Tobias[L]> brokenubuntu: nope you can export your packages via synaptic
[13:01] <Tobias[L]> brokenubuntu: well atleast what is installed
[13:02] <brokenubuntu> can i expert while i am running from the usb? i am no longer in my old system
[13:02] <brokenubuntu> export*
[13:03] <SynthAxe> Hello
[13:03] <Tobias[L]> brokenubuntu: you propably can but for that someone else needs to help you and write an regexp for installed packages... im familiar with livesystems and data recovery but not working on interna... maybe you can chroot tough?
[13:03] <SynthAxe> I'm having problems running office 2010 apps via wine
[13:04] <brokenubuntu> Tobias[L]: i think i can reinstall them manually, as long as it keeps my files. i got lot of python virtualenvs configured
[13:05] <Tobias[L]> SynthAxe: office usually needs extras under wine, for guaranteed working office look into crossover or ask yourself if your msoffice can be replaced by libreoffice
[13:05] <brokenubuntu> and the problem started when i tried to install a new python 3.4.2 from source, dummy idea
[13:05] <brokenubuntu> *stupid idea
[13:05] <Tobias[L]> brokenubuntu: everything set in the /home partition will be kept. this includes settings for most programs (firefox, thunderbird, kvirc and many more)
[13:06] <ezech> which can be not so good at times
[13:06] <brokenubuntu> ok, I'll do that then, tks
[13:06] <ezech> old config for new software and such
[13:07] <ezech> just grow balls, format everything and start from scratch - check your backup quality the manly way! :P
[13:07] <Tobias[L]> ezech: some people only grasp the importance of backup by learning the hard way
[13:07] <brokenubuntu> sure
[13:07] <ezech> Tobias[L], I'd say most of them
[13:07] <brokenubuntu> i was using attic
[13:08] <brokenubuntu> but gave not too much importance and now here i am
[13:08]  * ezech is backing up family photos in old fashioned albums on book shelves
[13:08] <Tobias[L]> ezech: daily febe autoexport sure does have its good parts :D and chrome syncs itself by some nsa magic so i have that coveres too
[13:13] <hikenboot_> when doing a chroot /mnt/fcroot/pts is not found...anyone know if this is optional or created when booted?
[13:14] <hikenboot_> nerver mind its an error in the directions
[13:14] <hikenboot_> its /mnt/fcroot/dev/pts
[13:15] <motaka2> is there a way to see the list of installed printers using terminal ?
[13:15] <llutz> motaka2: lpstat -a
[13:17] <motaka2> llutz: thanks. do you know a good resource to learn shell or linux. I mean something like a book
[13:17] <cfhowlett> motaka2, "linux from scratch"
[13:17] <Tobias[L]> Linux from scratch is always a nice source
[13:17] <Tobias[L]> sammit
[13:17] <Tobias[L]> XD
[13:17] <cfhowlett> "sammit"?
[13:17] <Tobias[L]> d*
[13:18] <t4nk262> Hi Does anyone know how to stop firefox hogging the whole system when it gets a non responsive script error
[13:18] <Tobias[L]> stuck with my old pc on travel, it is a tad smaller so i often hit keys especially left and right one short
[13:18] <Tobias[L]> t4nk262: yeah by using chromium
[13:19] <BluesKaj_> 'Morning all
[13:24] <SynthAxe> any good mail client I can use to connect to my office's exchange servers?
[13:24] <t4nk262> Is there a way to limit firefoxes priority so it lets  the system run enough when irt has the non responsive script error  that I can pkill Firefox ?
[13:25] <Tobias[L]> t4nk262: jep, go into process overview and change the "nice" factor
[13:26] <cynicallemon> SynthAxe: Evolution and Thunderbird maybe
[13:27] <ezech> thunderbird can do only imap
[13:27] <ezech> evolution sucks ass
[13:27] <t4nk262> im Tobias[L] im pretty new to ubunto where do I find the process overview?
[13:27] <QueensMelons> guys
[13:27] <QueensMelons> how to get gawk on ubuntu?
[13:27] <QueensMelons> installing LFS
[13:28] <ezech> QueensMelons, most probably you have it already there - as 'awk'
[13:28] <Tobias[L]> press super (windows), enter system into the bar and there is "system overview" or something akin to it
[13:28] <Tobias[L]> t4nk262:
[13:29] <cfhowlett> !language | ezech,
[13:29] <t4nk262> thanks I'l try to find it
[13:31] <ezech> cfhowlett, what's so not polite about those harmless animals?
[13:32] <Xliinee> hey guys!
[13:32] <torelulz> hi2u
[13:32] <cfhowlett> ezech, I imagine there's a humor channel somewhere.  this isn't it.  family friendly language is expected ... even from you.
[13:33] <cfhowlett> !guidelines | ezech
[13:33] <ezech> sorry cfhowlett, forgot linux is about serious family business, won't happen again ;)
[13:33] <murlidhar> hi all . i messed up something and i lost the window manager . just a black strip shows now. http://is.gd/bml66u
[13:34] <murlidhar> what is the problem now?
[13:34] <EriC^^> QueensMelons: sudo apt-get install gawk
[13:34] <QueensMelons> also,EriC^^ that doesnt wokr
[13:34] <White_Cat> hello internet
[13:35] <Baz__> hello, I'm looking to watch a log file and have it trim itself to 1000 as i watch it, whats a good way to do that?
[13:35] <EriC^^> QueensMelons: did you run sudo apt-get update ?
[13:35] <White_Cat> I want to maintain "sudo iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i venet0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 8069" on reboot of my ubuntu-server
[13:35] <QueensMelons> nope EriC^^
[13:35] <White_Cat> how can I do this?
[13:35] <White_Cat> I use ufw
[13:36] <EriC^^> QueensMelons: try to run that first
[13:38] <Baz__> my question may not have been phrased correctly: I'm currently "live" tailing a log file: tail -f -n 1000 ./out.log; I'd like for it to limit itself to the 1000 rows I'm looking at as it grows - is there a nice way to do that?
[13:39] <EriC^^> White_Cat: you can use logrotate
[13:40] <QueensMelons> Thanks EriC^^ !!
[13:40] <hikenboot_> at the grub prompt grub> how do you save changes?
[13:40] <EriC^^> QueensMelons: no problem
[13:41] <murlidhar> even the gnome-terminal is just a big black box with nothing showing.
[13:46] <jatt> Baz__: one way would be to use less instead of tail, e.g. less ./out.log and type F to simulate tail -f
[14:03] <Rochvellon> hi, i've got a problem. i have mounted through fstab a drive in /media/user and i can access it through /media/user/mount sucessfully. I also bind through fstab /media/user to /home/user/Media , and i can see the mounted drive in this folder but i cannot list anything in this folder. my fstab: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/58265714/fstab.txt
[14:17] <nono_> hi guys and gals
[14:18] <murlidhar> hi all. i messed up something. no window manager / window border. even gnome terminal is totally black with no text visible. http://is.gd/bmL66U
[14:19] <murlidhar> can anyone help me solve the problem ?
[14:19] <nono_> youre in a different workspace
[14:19] <nono_> do you see a command terminal
[14:19] <nono_> hey does anyone know hwo to get rid of all the ubuntu spyware this new version has
[14:19] <murlidhar> nono_: i am using xterminal which is working as of now. thankfully :|
[14:20] <murlidhar> the text is visible
[14:20] <EriC^^> murlidhar: did you try the guest account?
[14:20] <nono_> http://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/add-switch-and-change-workspace-in-ubuntu-linux/
[14:21] <murlidhar> i agreed to downgrade some packages using aptitude install.
[14:21] <murlidhar> EriC^^: yes. all the accounts have the same problem
[14:22] <nono_> i dont remember the command
[14:22] <nono_> but i think its their desktop enviroment
[14:22] <nono_> its prolly crashed
[14:22] <murlidhar> nono_: are  you talking to me ?
[14:22] <nono_> im talking about you :p
[14:23] <EriC^^> murlidhar: maybe try to reinstall unity?
[14:23] <nono_> no\
[14:23] <EriC^^> murlidhar: sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[14:23] <murlidhar> hmmm
[14:23] <murlidhar> okay will try
[14:23] <murlidhar> brb
[14:23] <EriC^^> murlidhar: try to reinstall compiz, sudo apt-get install --reinstall compiz
[14:24] <nono_> i dont remember the specific command to load up an enviroment
[14:24] <nono_> you do it from the work space ctrl alt f2
[14:27] <nono_> what are some good freenode news channels
[14:27] <nono_> hey does anyone know hwo to get rid of all the ubuntu spyware this new version has
[14:27] <cfhowlett> "spyware"???
[14:27] <cariveri> Hi. Is there a way to stop ubuntu unity from spying? (internet recommendations feature)
[14:28] <cfhowlett> cariveri, privacy settings
[14:28] <cariveri> nono_: I guess you meant something like I meant?
[14:28] <nono_> theres more to it than that right
[14:29] <nono_> then the privacy menu
[14:29] <cfhowlett> nono_, don't use unity.  kde, xfce4, lxde, gnome are options
[14:29] <nono_> are there no packages?
[14:29] <nono_> yeaa thats my answer
[14:29] <nono_> ill use plasma !
[14:31] <cariveri> cfhowlett: thank you . I found it.
[14:32] <cariveri> nono_: thats why I took KDE for my own machine.
[14:32] <nono_> i wanna change to debian cause of this issue
[14:33] <cariveri> its a thing of attitude I guess.
[14:40] <dinosaur> my machine's booting very slowly. What can I do to investigate the problem?
[14:41] <EriC^^> dinosaur: dmesg
[14:42] <r_a_x> I have installed ubuntu 14.04 by usb and my software cneter do not show install option
[14:42] <dinosaur> aha, and the second problem: I cannot reboot. I can type shutdown -r now or reboot, but all what will happen will be that the system will be halted. I'm not sure if it has  always been the case.
[14:43] <r_a_x> instead it shows use this source option
[14:44] <lazaros> hello
[14:50] <murlidhar> okay. i am seriously messed up now. i tried sudo apt-get dist-upgrade . i am using 14.04 and it says 0 to install 0 to update 0 to upgrade.
[14:51] <murlidhar> EriC^^: reinstalling ubuntu-desktop or compiz didnt help .
[14:52] <r_a_x> I have installed ubuntu 14.04 lts by creating bootable usb , And My software center do not show the install option instead it show use this source
[14:52] <murlidhar> so how do i upgrade my distro now ?
[14:54] <estudiante> morzila firefox
[14:54] <estudiante> florencia
[14:54] <parmiggiano> murlidhar: hm, have you run 'apt-get update' first?
[14:54] <murlidhar> parmiggiano: yes
[14:56] <parmiggiano> murlidhar: and the plan is to upgrade to 14.10?
[14:56] <murlidhar> parmiggiano: as of now , yes
[14:56] <parmiggiano> murlidhar: i think the command 'apt-get dist-upgrade' just doesn't let you upgrade to a newer version of Ubuntu.
[14:57] <murlidhar> then what does dist-upgrade do ?
[14:58] <parmiggiano> murlidhar: yeah, the naming is a bit strange, but dist-upgrade only performs updates as far as I know... so, try to upgrade with the update-manager
[14:59] <murlidhar> parmiggiano: it isn't showing . the update-manager
[14:59] <parmiggiano> or 'do-release-upgrade' might work as well, I've never tried
[15:01] <Baz__> jatt, i don't think that would trim the file if it gets tooo big would it?
[15:01] <murlidhar> parmiggiano: okay update-manager started. hopefully should upgrade now.
[15:02] <parmiggiano> murlidhar: fine... if not, try 'sudo do-release-upgrade'
[15:02] <r_a_x> In my ubuntu 14.04 lts , software center do not show install option ,instead it shows the "use this source" option??
[15:02] <murlidhar> parmiggiano: okay thank you.
[15:05] <murlidhar> parmiggiano: actually i wasn't willing to upgrade but cuz something i did , my window manager shows all black so i chose to upgrade in hope that package dependencies will be resolved.
[15:07] <dinosaur> how can I completely flush DNS in Ubuntu?
[15:07] <murlidhar> parmiggiano: http://is.gd/bmL66U
[15:07] <murlidhar> parmiggiano: http://is.gd/AWnhaa
[15:08] <parmiggiano> murlidhar: sounds like a graphics issue... i can't see the images as I've not booted into X...
[15:09] <murlidhar> parmiggiano: yes it is. i tried to reinstall compiz too but didn't work
[15:09] <parmiggiano> murlidhar: have you tried another window manager / DE? e.g. a window manager without compositing / 3D effects?
[15:09] <murlidhar> parmiggiano: no
[15:09] <murlidhar> i haven't
[15:09] <murlidhar> i don't have any other
[15:10] <nono_> i need help! i dont know hwo to to remove unity and install another enviroment
[15:10] <subman> How do I enable a remote desktop GUI session from a computer running Ubuntu without a current GUI session running?
[15:11] <parmiggiano> murlidhar: perhaps one could try to reinstall the unity-desktop altogether. it's in the package ubuntu-desktop...
[15:11] <murlidhar> parmiggiano: even system monitor is a black box now. just that one. and there is black strip all around menu . like right-clicking.
[15:11] <murlidhar> parmiggiano: i did . i tried to reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[15:14] <parmiggiano> murlidhar: I don't know if it's the graphics driver... perhaps someone else here is more experienced in these issues. however, I fear your upgrade won't help.
[15:14] <murlidhar> parmiggiano: a fresh installation maybe ?
[15:14] <murlidhar> i don't mind
[15:14] <murlidhar> i have backup my things
[15:14] <murlidhar> backedup*
[15:15] <parmiggiano> murlidhar: well, that depends on your preferences... I also tend to fresh installs... but solving the problems helps you gaining more knowledge and experience about your system, so if you have the time, it's always good to try
[15:16] <murlidhar> parmiggiano: i have the time . the thing is i tried to install an app using aptitude and it offered a solution to downgrade a few packages to which i agreed and that created troubles.
[15:16] <parmiggiano> murlidhar: If the graphics become weird, I would first try to install a DE without compositing, e.g. XFCE by 'xubuntu-desktop' ... that should give you a stable environment under which you can continue web searches etc. on the issue.
[15:17] <zamba> my ubuntu server is booting remotely and i can ping it, but ssh is not running.. i suspect it's waiting for user input about disk checks.. for instance press 's' to skip
[15:17] <zamba> nothing i can do remotely?
[15:17] <murlidhar> parmiggiano: right now am able to use unity but the weird black lines are troubling and i have no window visible .
[15:17] <teward> zamba: not really, maybe if the server is a VPS and has a serial console you can use that (check with the provider)
[15:17] <murlidhar> parmiggiano: all apps are running
[15:18] <teward> zamba: the problem is it might not actually be waiting for input at all, it might be stuck, that's why VPSes and such provide a 'serial console' kind of connection
[15:18] <parmiggiano> murlidhar: have you removed that app which caused the problem?
[15:18] <murlidhar> parmiggiano: yes
[15:18] <murlidhar> i have
[15:18] <EriC^^> murlidhar: check /var/log/apt/history.log
[15:18] <EriC^^> murlidhar: and see which packages it downgraded
[15:19] <murlidhar> EriC^^: many . many . too many.
[15:19] <EriC^^> murlidhar: any vga related packages?
[15:19] <murlidhar> EriC^^: should i upload the log ?
[15:20] <EriC^^> sure why not
[15:20] <murlidhar> i mean pastebin . okies
[15:23] <murlidhar> EriC^^: http://pastebin.com/q7E3SPTJ
[15:25] <murlidhar> EriC^^: looks like it touched the x11 and mesa files :)
[15:29] <delt> Hello
[15:30] <delt> How would i have rpc.gssd autostart at boot time? Without it, mounting my nfs4 shares is slow
[15:30] <delt> i see these files:
[15:30] <delt> /etc/init/gssd.conf
[15:30] <delt> /etc/init/gssd-mounting.conf
[15:31] <delt> but on bootup, rpc.gssd is not running.
[15:31] <EriC^^> murlidhar: i see, is mutate the package that you removed?
[15:31] <EriC^^> murlidhar: it removed so many packages O.o
[15:32] <murlidhar> EriC^^: yes
[15:32] <EriC^^> murlidhar: maybe if you remove the ppa that installed mutate and revert to the ubuntu packages it might work?
[15:32] <murlidhar> EriC^^: hmmm
[15:32] <murlidhar> okies
[15:33] <Crackz0r> Hello
[15:34] <maddawg2> hey guys.. I need some help with setting up LVM on a fresh ubuntu install
[15:35] <maddawg2> I have a machine with 5 physical drives and i'm hoping to get my / partition to expand all those drives
[15:35] <maddawg2> i've been having issues doing that
[15:35] <maddawg2> i was trying with the system-config-lvm utiltiy
[15:35] <maddawg2> provides a GUI
[15:35] <teward> maddawg2: such that / gets the full size of all the drives combined/
[15:35] <maddawg2> and it looked like it worked at first but ubuntu doesnt see the full drive
[15:35] <teward> so if they're all 1TB drives, you get 5TBish?
[15:36] <maddawg2> yes teward
[15:36] <maddawg2> spanned volume basically
[15:36] <teward> not sure if LVM can do that, but that sounds a lot like RAID0
[15:36] <maddawg2> LVM can do that
[15:36] <maddawg2> i have it set up on another machine but not for the root partition
[15:36] <maddawg2> for a secondary partition
[15:36] <maddawg2> i cant for the life of me figure out how i did it
[15:38]  * choopa slaps her pussy for FREEDOM!
[15:38] <choopa> CHOLBY RULES
[15:38] <choopa> SUCK MY DICK EVERYBODY!
[15:42] <subman> How do I enable a remote desktop GUI session from a computer running Ubuntu without a current GUI session running?
[15:43] <maddawg2> teward: in fact that's the whole point of LVM
[15:43] <maddawg2> http://askubuntu.com/questions/3596/what-is-lvm-and-what-is-it-used-for
[15:44] <maddawg2> If you have more than one hard-disk, Logical Volumes can extend over more than one disk: i.e., they are not limited by the size of one single disk, rather by the total aggregate size.
[15:44] <bekks> subman: I dont think there is a way to do so, since remote desktop GUI requires a GUI.
[15:48] <murlidhar> EriC^^: isn't helping at all. i updated. removed the ppa as well.
[15:49] <subman> bekks is there a way to start a gui session remotely?
[15:50] <bekks> subman: What exactly do you want to achieve?
[15:50] <subman> bekks A remote headless server and I want to have gui access.
[15:51] <bekks> subman: So just install nxserver/nxclient and be happy :)
[15:52] <Servus> apt-get autoremove a few kernels and kernel modul of an old kernel that whas in use with the current kernel: Module:  bcmwl  Could this cause that my sound doesn't work? http://pastebin.com/MgMMc57p
[15:52] <subman> bekks, unable to find package.......is it not part of the standard repo?
[15:53] <parmiggiano> subman: 'freenx-server'... and read some online 'how to' to set it up
[15:54] <subman> parmiggiano, unable to locate package error
[15:55] <maddawg2> pretty lame that vmware esxi only lets you add up to 2TB of storage
[15:56] <bekks> They want to earn money, actually.
[15:57] <maddawg2> ....
[15:57] <maddawg2> how does that limitation earn them money?
[15:57] <subman> Ok, I guess I'm stuck with buying Windows to access my remote machine.  Unbelievable.
[15:57] <bekks> You have to buy a commercial license.
[15:57] <maddawg2> i could see it earning them money IF they had a pay option that allows them do that
[15:57] <bekks> subman: You arent.
[15:57] <maddawg2> esxi is a commercial product
[15:57] <cfhowlett> !ot
[15:58] <bekks> subman: https://www.nomachine.com/AR07K00676
[15:58] <maddawg2> if it supported it i wouldnt have to waste my time with LVMs in ubuntu
[15:59] <subman> bekks, already done.  Still no remote
[16:00] <bekks> subman: Already done what?
[16:00] <subman> bekks, if I have to by Windows to solve my problem, then so be it.
[16:01] <bekks> subman: You dont have to use Windows. :)
[16:01] <bekks> But if you want to use Windows, then so be it.
[16:01] <subman> bekks, apparently I do.  At least with a Linux headless
[16:02] <bekks> subman: No you dont. I am using NoMachine and a GUI every day, on a headless server.
[16:03] <subman> bekks, maybe your supplier allows that?  I have a dedicated server and it just does not work.
[16:03] <EriC^^> subman: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/12755/how-to-forward-x-over-ssh-from-ubuntu-machine
[16:03] <parmiggiano> (just from my personal interest, bekks and subman: for which use cases do you need a gui?)
[16:04] <bekks> subman: It has nothing to do with dedicated server or not. It only depends on your setup. If you dont want to use Ubuntu, dont use it. I am quitting this pointless discussion.
[16:04] <bekks> parmiggiano: I am using it for a remote desktop for a vm, which runs on a headless server.
[16:04] <subman> bekks, really?
[16:04] <bekks> subman: Really.
[16:05] <subman> Wow
[16:05] <AlexPortable> Any way I can install something on a system that's not live?
[16:05] <AlexPortable> Write in a few folders and done?
[16:06] <bekks> AlexPortable: You can creat a chroot.
[16:06] <cfhowlett> AlexPortable, ??? not really how it works.
[16:06] <bekks> *create even
[16:06] <AlexPortable> Is that hard?
[16:06] <AlexPortable> cfhowlett: yes but I want it
[16:06] <bekks> !chroot | AlexPortable
[16:06] <AlexPortable> I made a backup of my system, but now I want to install something on that backed up image
[16:07] <bekks> AlexPortable: Which is a good way to invalidate the backup and make it unrestorable.
[16:07] <AlexPortable> Why?
[16:07] <AlexPortable> It's an 1:1 backup
[16:07] <bekks> AlexPortable: How did you create your backup?
[16:07] <AlexPortable> Copied all files from the harddisk
[16:07] <bekks> How exactly did you copy all files?
[16:07] <AlexPortable> ctrl c
[16:07] <bekks> Thats not a restorable backup.
[16:07] <AlexPortable> Doesn't matters
[16:07] <bekks> It does. You actually have no backup.
[16:08] <bekks> You did not preserve symlinks, you did not preserver hardlinks, you most likely dont even preserved permissions and ownerships.
[16:08] <bekks> Totally worthless, whatever you copied there.
[16:09] <murosai> any idea what equipment i would need to record sound from headphone jack of other device, say for example mp3-player?
[16:09] <cfhowlett> AlexPortable, you might want to verify that you at least have a copy of your essential data.  or not.  up to you.
[16:09] <x__> does somebody know something about ssl sniffing ? I've just a small question about it
[16:10] <x__> i'll be thankfull for any help
[16:11] <x__> are you there ?
[16:11] <bekks> x__: How about asking your question then, first?
[16:12] <x__> an host can only "sniff" another connection, if both are in the same network right?
[16:12] <bekks> The host needs access to the connection data, yes.
[16:13] <x__> bekks: Thank you a lot ! that was all i needed to know :)
[16:13] <x__> bekks: have a nice day
[16:16] <cpined> help.  I have an asus laptop.  I installed Unity desktop and everything was good.  I then decided to re-install ubuntu server on it instead and install the gnome desktop which I like but now my internet access fails after a minute or so.
[16:17] <MonkeyDust> cpined  therre's also #ubuntu-server
[16:18] <cpined> yes that is what I installed, then the gnome desktop.
[16:20] <cpined> MonkeyDust, sorry...you meant the channel.
[16:24] <m1dnight_> guys, I have renamed some directories (using java) in Linux. In terminal I now see "properdirname"
[16:24] <m1dnight_> but the mount in windows shows dirnames like "_SLLQS~C"
[16:24] <m1dnight_> any idea?
[16:24] <m1dnight_> it is a samba mount
[16:25] <m1dnight_> http://superuser.com/questions/458995/files-folders-get-weird-names-and-become-inaccessible-on-samba-share
[16:25] <m1dnight_> this, so it seems
[16:26] <AlexPortable> cfhowlett: bekks I have a working system. I want to convert it to an LTSP image, but for this the package ltsp-client has to be installed. I can't install it on my current systme.
[16:27] <cfhowlett> AlexPortable, sounds theoretically possible and a great science experiment ... I wish you well.
[16:28] <AlexPortable> What do you mean science experiment?
[16:28] <cpined> My internet access fails after a few minutes and my wifi does not get any internet access.  Can some please help?
[16:28] <OerHeks> m1dnight_, in that url there is also the solution > mangled names=no
[16:28] <bekks> AlexPortable: Then backup your system.
[16:29] <cfhowlett> AlexPortable, possibility of success but likely multiple failures before that happens.
[16:29] <AlexPortable> bekks: so you mean install it, backup the system, make the ltsp image, restore the backup ?
[16:29] <AlexPortable> cfhowlett: what kind of failures?
[16:29] <bekks> AlexPortable: No.
[16:30] <bekks> AlexPortable: Backup your system, then install what you want, see if it works, if it doesnt, restore your backup.
[16:30] <AlexPortable> Well it should work
[16:30] <cfhowlett> AlexPortable, you'll have to try it and find out on your own.  FWIW, I've never heard of what describe being done, but it's certainly possible.
[16:30] <AlexPortable> But I'm not sure if I may install the image on the pc
[16:30] <bekks> AlexPortable: And for doing so, ctrl+c for copying files and messing up permissions, etc. isnt enough.
[16:30] <AlexPortable> true
[16:31] <AlexPortable> Is it for the home folder?
[16:31] <bekks> AlexPortable: It is, for home folder only.
[16:32] <AlexPortable> Or should I use rsync to move the files with permissions?
[16:32] <bekks> !backup | AlexPortable
[16:33] <cpined> when I ping say cnn.com in a terminal nothing happens, on my desktop the same command works.  What causes that problem?
[16:35] <OerHeks> cpined how do you ping on your desktop ?
[16:36] <OerHeks> hmm somehowe cnn.com does not want to be pinged
[16:36] <cpined> ping cnn.com using a terminal.
[16:36] <cpined> ping cnn.com using a terminal on the laptop is not working.
[16:37]  * cholby_ slaps her pussy for FREEDOM!
[16:37] <cholby_> CHOLBY RULES
[16:39] <OerHeks> cpined, "CNN blocks ICMP-Echo-Request packets"  that is why i asked, how do you ping on your desktop ?
[16:40] <cfhowlett> !ops | cholby_ idiocy ... ban request
[16:43] <cpined> OerHeks, this is what I get back from the ping on the desktop 64 bytes from www.cnn.com(157.166.226.25):
[16:47] <Prezident> How can i customize tabs in ubuntu terminal? They are to big imao, i want them very small at top
[16:47] <nono_> hey does anyone use a macbook pro 8,2 mid 2011 i have xubuntu and the keyboard light isnt working :/
[16:48] <Prezident> now tabs takes around 1 and half cm on top, i want them much smaller
[16:48] <OerHeks> cpined, that is what i ask you, you said in terminal no pin, that is correct, cnn does not answer ping, but how did you get an answer from cnn.com? sounds funny to me
[16:50] <cpined> OerHeks, on my desktop the ping command works and I have internet access, on my laptop the ping command does not work and I don't have internet access.  pinging cnn.com
[16:50] <cpined> OerHeks, so my question is why I don't have internet access on my laptop.
[16:51] <twau> wifi or cable?
[16:51] <cpined> both don't work on the laptop.
[16:51] <cpined> fresh ubuntu install.
[16:51] <twau> Can you ping anything on your lan? Example your router?
[16:51] <OerHeks> cpined, so it is an network issue, not a ping issue?
[16:52] <cpined> correct, sorry for the confusion.
[16:52] <nono_> connect your comptuer to the lan via cable
[16:52] <cpined> I will check.
[16:52] <nono_> then run an update
[16:52] <parmiggiano> Prezident: I don't think that's possible... you could try alternative terminal emulators
[16:52] <cpined> doing that now, seeing if that works.
[16:52] <nono_> then check if your cards are up maybe
[16:52] <cpined> hopefully the internet access stays up while installing the updates.
[16:54] <cpined> twau, I can ping my desktop from my laptop.
[16:54] <nono_> the cd is just basics
[16:54] <nono_> the update is where its at
[16:54] <parmiggiano> Prezident: or you might want to use a program like GNU Screen or tmux to manage multiple 'screens' within a single terminal window/tab.
[16:54] <cpined> nono_, ok, hope it works
[16:54] <cpined> it is asking for a re-start..lets see!!
[16:56] <setuid> Where's the right place to get raring updates?
[16:56] <setuid> I've got a VM here I'm trying to bring to current, apparently all the raring updates are offline, security updates also
[16:56] <OerHeks> setuid, raring is EOL, dead
[16:56] <OerHeks> !raring
[16:56] <setuid> So where's the latest archived updates then?
[16:57] <OerHeks> setuid, there is however a hack to get updates, but you won't be safe, it is just to upgrade
[16:57] <OerHeks> !eolupgrade
[16:57] <setuid> OerHeks, I don't upgrade my VMs cross-version like that
[16:57] <setuid> If there's a new version, it's a new build
[16:58] <OerHeks> setuid, sure there is a new version, 12.04 is still supported, and 14.04/14.10
[16:58] <setuid> I can still get archived updates for 6.06 and 6.10
[16:58] <cpined> nono_, so far so good! I'll give it a few more minutes.
[16:58] <setuid> OerHeks, I run an ESXi host here with every single Linux distro out there
[16:58] <setuid> so I try to keep them clean and current, even the EOL'd ones
[16:58] <nono_> i just changed from ubuntu to xubuntu now my keyboard light isnt working any help macbook 8,2
[16:58] <OerHeks> setuid, great, but we do not support that
[16:59] <setuid> OerHeks, I get it, but where are the last of the updates archived to? You didn't just pull them all offline, did you?
[16:59] <setuid> s/you/the Ubuntu core team/
[16:59] <OerHeks> setuid, see that url from ubottu
[17:00] <OerHeks> setuid, yes, we pulled the updateservers offline, ofcourse
[17:00] <setuid> Weird, why would you pull them offline for v13, but leave them for v6,7,8,9 and 10
[17:00] <setuid> Some major flaw that leaked in?
[17:01] <setuid> in that case, you'd patch the flaw, and archive the updates like the previos versions
[17:01] <OerHeks> setuid, we dont leave them for 6,7,8, and so on, there is a seperate old-versions server just for people to upgrade
[17:01] <setuid> That's why I said 'archived'
[17:01] <setuid> So where are the Raring archives?
[17:02] <setuid> n/m, I'll dig around the mirror sites
[17:02] <OerHeks> time to read that url, setuid
[17:02] <bekks> !eolupgrade
[17:02] <setuid> I'm on it, it just tells me to upgrade, that's not helpful
[17:02] <OerHeks> LoLz
[17:02] <bekks> setuid: you did nbot read it.
[17:02] <setuid> Both links and the one embedded in the mailing list announce, are not useful here
[17:03] <setuid> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[17:03] <setuid> Does not give me a location to reach raring archived updates
[17:03] <setuid> Upgrading from 13.04 to 13.10 does not give me the latest 13.04 updates
[17:03] <setuid> So, I'll dig around the mirrors until I find them, no biggie
[17:03] <OerHeks> i am sure i answered all that
[17:04] <bekks> setuid: I can clearly read the URL where to get the old archives, in the article given.
[17:04] <bekks> I am sure you can, too.
[17:06] <nono_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro8-2/Quantal
[17:06] <nono_> i did this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro8-2/Quantal and get an i/o error when exectuing the script
[17:06] <OerHeks> !quantal
[17:07] <OerHeks> nono_, likely because Quantal is EOL, repos are dead
[17:07] <canaima> holaa
[17:08] <canaima> cm esta:v
[17:10] <nono_> i was just using the help file
[17:10] <nono_> what do i do
[17:10] <AlexPortable> How can I watch netflix on ubuntu? I can't install chrome, but it's not working in chromium or firefox
[17:11] <OerHeks> AlexPortable, netflix is on chrome only.
[17:11] <AlexPortable> yes, but how can i make it work on chromium?
[17:11] <OerHeks> AlexPortable, not.
[17:12] <AlexPortable> why not?
[17:14] <cpined> nono_, It looks like my internet access with the LAN is now stable.  My internet access with my wifi is still not working, any ideas?
[17:14] <OerHeks> AlexPortable, i have no answer to that, it just is.
[17:14] <AlexPortable> "Why? Google Chrome comes bundled with a specific module, one Netflix requires to permit playback on a system through HTML5. It’s called “Encrypted Media Extension” (‘EME’ for short) and, without getting too technical about it, it’s a form of user-friendly DRM."
[17:14] <AlexPortable> I don't see why this module isn't for chromium
[17:15] <DJones> AlexPortable: Possibly may be because chromium is opensource so can't include encrypted plugins
[17:15] <AlexPortable> Ubuntu is open source too, yet I can install closed source programs
[17:16] <VanceX> Alexportable: https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/95346?hl=en
[17:16] <OerHeks> AlexPortable, ubuntu does not come with closed source stuff, you have to download it.
[17:17] <VanceX> AlexPortable: Chromium is open source whereas Chrome comes with native support.
[17:17] <AlexPortable> So I should be able to download it in chromium
[17:17] <bekks> AlexPortable: If Netflix offers it for Chromium.
[17:17] <DJones> AlexPortable: Assuming somebody has packaged it for chromium, if not, no
[17:18] <KomiaPoika> hi
[17:18] <KomiaPoika> what's a good serial terminal program for ubuntu
[17:19] <AlexPortable> ok
[17:19] <OerHeks> !info gtkterm
[17:19] <AlexPortable> is there a tool like opera bookmark sharing for ubuntu?
[17:19] <KomiaPoika> thx
[17:21] <nono_> any help? my keyboard light isnt turning on
[17:22] <cpined> let me elaborate on my internet problem, it turns out that although my wifi says connected I"m not able to reach my desktop but when the lan cable is connected I'm able to reach it.
[17:23] <setuid> cpined, Sounds like a network misconfiguration
[17:23] <setuid> Are both desktop and laptop on the same segment?
[17:23] <cpined> setuid, how can I fix that?
[17:23] <cpined> yes
[17:24] <cpined> wait
[17:24] <cpined> yesterday when I was installing the OS i was connected to my repeater not to my router, could that be the cause?
[17:24] <setuid> What's a "repeater"? You have a WDS wireless bridge?
[17:25] <krastavac> how to change screen brightness on kali linux?
[17:25] <cpined> yes a wireless bridge.
[17:25] <OerHeks> !kali
[17:25] <setuid> So configure it to pass the traffic
[17:25] <cpined> setuid, I'm just grasping for straws at this point.
[17:25] <setuid> If you have two wireless access points and you're connected to A, which routes through wireless B, you need to configure it to pass the traffic in both directions
[17:25] <OerHeks> krastavac, kali has its own issues, see the ubottu
[17:25] <setuid> WDS_A -> WDS_B -> Internet
[17:26] <setuid> What are your routing rules on WDS_A?
[17:26] <cpined> setuid, I noticed that during boot up if the lan is not connected it hangs on network configuration.
[17:26] <setuid> Right, if your repeater isn't configured to forward/pass the traffic, it'll be like it's not connected
[17:26] <setuid> does WDS_B see the traffic from the repeater?
[17:26] <zykotick9> OerHeks: not to mention, kali isn't even based on ubuntu...
[17:27] <cpined> I use the bridge for my netflix device so I know it has internet access.
[17:27] <cpined> now I"m on the normal router via wifi and lan.
[17:27] <OerHeks> zykotick9, i wasn't sure on that, thanks
[17:27] <krastavac> give me some shell commands that might work
[17:27] <setuid> WDS_A may have internet access, but is it configured to pass traffic from BEHIND IT to WDS_B?
[17:27] <zykotick9> OerHeks: debian based now
[17:28] <cpined> it is not.  When I select WDS_B from any wireless laptop internet access does not work.
[17:28] <DJones> krastavac: This channel isn't for Kali linux support, you need to ask their own support channel
[17:28] <cpined> setuid, my problem now is with WDS_A.
[17:28] <setuid> cpined, So you have: laptop -> WDS_A (repeater) --> WDS_B (wireless router) --> Internet, yes?
[17:29] <setuid> Where is the desktop in this? LAN'd into which end?
[17:29] <cpined> setuid, destop and laptop are both on the main router, WDS_B.
[17:29] <chopa> !ops CHOLBY RULES!  SUCK MY DIIIIIICK!
[17:30] <chopa> !ops CHOLBY RULES!  SUCK MY DIIIIIICK!
[17:30] <chopa> !ops CHOLBY RULES!  SUCK MY DIIIIIICK!
[17:30] <chopa> !ops CHOLBY RULES!  SUCK MY DIIIIIICK!
[17:30] <setuid> Ok, and that works, right?
[17:30] <chopa> wait why isn't it working
[17:30] <setuid> laptop -> WDS_B -> internet?
[17:30] <chopa> the bot is supposed to ping everybody
[17:30] <chopa> :(
[17:30] <cpined> setuid, over the lan not the wifi.
[17:30] <christian> what the heck is this? having problems
[17:30] <christian> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9399430/
[17:30] <setuid> cpined, what are your iptables rules on the main router?
[17:30] <christian> output of strings /usr/sbin/pkexec
[17:31] <setuid> or if you don't have iptables there, what port forwarding rules have you set?
[17:31] <setuid> christian: What are you trying to do?
[17:31] <cpined> setuid, don't know.  all the other lap tops are fine.  This lap top was fine until I re-installed the OS yesterday.
[17:31] <setuid> cpined, Linux or Windows on that laptop?
[17:31] <dmaroulidis> !ops chopa
[17:31] <twau> do they have the same dns
[17:31] <cpined> setuid, Linux.
[17:32] <setuid> cpined, And 'route -a' shows what you expect?
[17:32] <setuid> er, route -n
[17:33] <setuid> Any mac address restrictions on the main router? Something preventing traffic from getting past it, even if you authenticate TO it?
[17:33] <twau> does "cat /etc/resolv.conf" display the same on the computer where it works, and on the laptop?
[17:33] <cpined> setuid, route -s shows same for Lan and wifi
[17:33] <cpined> twau, I'll try that out.
[17:33] <setuid> twau, That would only matter if he was using DNS
[17:33] <setuid> If he's just trying to get through with IP (eg: route -n path), then /etc/resolv.conf is meaningless
[17:34] <cpined> twau, yes.
[17:34] <twau> ah okey didnt know he was just trying the ip
[17:34] <setuid> Eliminate the variables
[17:34] <setuid> Can you ping the router itself?
[17:34] <setuid> Can you ping the gateway on the other end of the router?
[17:34] <setuid> Can you ping a machine on the other end of the LAN on -your- side?
[17:35] <setuid> (not an Internet host, but something on your LAN; a printer, another device)
[17:35]  * subhojit777 is away: AFK
[17:35]  * setuid just realized he's been here over 15 years now. Woop! 
[17:36]  * subhojit777 is back (gone 00:00:14)
[17:36] <setuid> 10+ years under 'setuid', 3 under 'rwsr-xr-x' and 1 under 'root' back in 1999.
[17:36] <cpined> setuid, I can ping the router and other PC from lap top while on lan.  I can't ping router and other PC when I disconnect the lan.
[17:36] <setuid> cpined, Sounds like your default route is screwed up, or set to LAN even when wifi is connected
[17:37] <setuid> Try unplugging LAN and typing: "route del default gw && route add default gw <your_gw_IP_address>"
[17:37] <cpined> setuid, should I just re-install again while on the main router?
[17:37] <setuid> You could try that
[17:37] <setuid> not sure how far into the config you are
[17:38] <setuid> But you may end up back where you are now
[17:38] <twau> Have you tried set everything static?
[17:38] <setuid> What distro are you on?
[17:38] <dreamer9> hellooooo
[17:39] <cpined> ubuntu server 14.04, the latest.
[17:39] <dreamer9> anyone here have worked with openstack
[17:39] <dreamer9> i need ome helpp
[17:39] <dreamer9> plz
[17:39] <dreamer9> it's urgent
[17:39] <twau> State your question rather then ask for help dreamer9, more will awnser
[17:40] <setuid> dreamer9, #openstack-dev
[17:40] <dreamer9> i have a problem can some one help me plz
[17:40] <dreamer9>  i work on ubuntu 14.04
[17:40] <dreamer9>  when i run keystone via cmd service keystone start
[17:40] <dreamer9>  and
[17:40] <dreamer9> i do netstat -an|grep 35357
[17:40] <dreamer9>  no port
[17:40] <unopaste> dreamer9 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[17:40] <setuid> dreamer9, Ask in #openstack or #openstack-dev
[17:41] <cpined> setuid, I tried the route commands, now what?
[17:41] <setuid> Does it work?
[17:41] <setuid> Note: the gw -should- be different if you're on wired vs. wireless
[17:41] <setuid> they should not be the same
[17:41] <setuid> You have a LAN IP and a WAN IP on that WDS repeater
[17:41] <setuid> If you're wireless, you're on the WAN side of the router
[17:42] <setuid> if you're wired, logically you're on the LAN side of the router
[17:42] <dreamer9> when i type keystone role-create -name admin
[17:43] <dreamer9> i have : unable to connect with http://server:35357/v2/rep
[17:43] <setuid> dreamer9, #openstack
[17:43] <setuid> This is the wrong place for Openstack help
[17:43] <dreamer9> when i use nmap to scan list of ports opened on my os
[17:44] <dreamer9> no port 3357
[17:44] <cpined> setuid, so replace gw with the gw ip address?
[17:45] <setuid> When on wireless, your gw will be different than when on wired
[17:45] <setuid> so make sure it's changing when your adapter changes
[17:45] <setuid> if it isn't, that's your issue right there
[17:46] <cpined> setuid, I get no such device for bot the del and add commands
[17:46] <dreamer9> soryyyy
[17:46] <dreamer9> ok
[17:46] <beans> www.gofundme.com/gysbo4
[17:46] <dreamer9> i switched to #openstack
[17:46] <beans> www.geocities.ws/foolsgold
[17:47] <setuid> cpined, "route del default" (when on wired, LAN unplugged)
[17:47] <setuid> and then: "route add default gw w.x.y.z" where that is the IP of your WAN-side gateway address
[17:47] <cpined> setuid, you mean when on wireless? LAN unplugged?
[17:47] <setuid> Yes
[17:48] <cpined> setuid, ok..dumb question how do I get the WAN-side gateway address?
[17:48] <setuid> Your default gateway when LAN is plugged in, will be -different- than your default gateway when on wireless only (LAN unpluged)
[17:48] <setuid> cpined, What IP range does your router hand out when on wireless/LAN unplugged?
[17:49] <cpined> setuid, my ip when on wireless is 192.168.1.74
[17:50] <setuid> Ok, so your gateway is probably 192.168.1.1
[17:50] <setuid> When you're on wireless, can you ping 1.1?
[17:50] <cpined> setuid, no.
[17:50] <twau> can you paste your ifconfig -a
[17:50] <setuid> What happens when you run 'dhclient' on your machine when LAN is disabled?
[17:51] <cpined> setuid, answers: file exists
[17:52] <setuid> dhclient -i wlan0 (or whatever your WLAN adapter is)
[17:53] <setuid> sorry, exclude the -i
[17:54] <setuid> dhclient wlan0
[17:55] <cpined> setuid, same answer
[17:55] <setuid> Pastebin the output of 'ifconfig -a' on your host
[17:56] <setuid> with both LAN + wifi connected
[17:58] <cpined> setuid, ok, pastebin.com/KcxUtMWY
[17:58] <twau> does you netmask match the computer where it works?
[17:59] <cpined> twau, will the pastebin show that?
[18:00] <setuid> Looks like the lan + wifi are on the same side of the same subnet
[18:00] <setuid> that won't work
[18:00] <cpined> setuid, ah...how did that happen?
[18:00] <cpined> setuid, what is the fix?
[18:00] <twau> try: ifconfig p3p1 down
[18:00] <setuid> Configure your router to hand out proper addresses to its respective clients
[18:01] <setuid> Your router is handing an address to the wireless client which it isn't configured to route back into its LAN segment
[18:01] <nbusrone> Anyone using Nvidia graphic card with Open source driver here ?
[18:01] <setuid> .70 vs. .74
[18:01] <bekks> nbusrone: Why?
[18:01] <cpined> setuid, why would that be an issue now?  like I mentioned the first time I installed the OS everything was good, yesterday I installed the OS now I have issues, but same router.
[18:02] <nbusrone> bekks : I am having problem with custom resolution here with nvidia open source driver
[18:02] <setuid> cpined, Nothing changed on the router?
[18:02] <cpined> setuid, nothing.
[18:02] <twau> do you have both cable and wifi connected cpined ? what is the p3p1 interface
[18:02] <setuid> Reinstall with wired unplugged the whole time and see if that fixes it
[18:03] <setuid> Maybe you have a persistent DHCP reservation on the wrong subnet
[18:03] <cpined> setuid, I will try that.  I think your pointing to the issue.  Thanks I will keep you guys posted.
[18:03] <cpined> twau, both are connected.
[18:03] <nbusrone> no one using nvidia graphic card here ?
[18:03] <setuid> flush the dhcp reservations on your router also
[18:04] <cpined> setuid, ok, how?
[18:04] <setuid> nbusrone, I was on a previous laptop, no issues running the full 1920x1200 resolution with nv
[18:04] <setuid> it was a bit slow, but it did work
[18:04] <setuid> cpined, what kind of router is it?
[18:04] <cpined> setuid, ATT
[18:04] <setuid> You should have a way to reset the MAC/dhcp tables
[18:04] <setuid> oh, never mind, all bets are off then
[18:04] <setuid> Wait... U-Verse style?
[18:04] <cpined> yes
[18:05] <setuid> Like where your router is on 192.168.1.254?
[18:05] <cpined> yes
[18:05] <setuid> Note: router-behind-router on the AT&T routers is VERY VERY tricky to get working
[18:05] <nbusrone> setuid : the opposite , I can't run with lower resolution with nv
[18:05] <setuid> I have an AT&T router here also, and 2 routers behiind it, requires a lot of custom iptables rules
[18:05] <cpined> setuid, maybe that is the issue.
[18:06] <setuid> So your AT&T is the main wireless router?
[18:06] <cpined> setuid, yes
[18:06] <nbusrone> setuid : are you currently using nvidia laptop now ?
[18:06] <cpined> setuid, I will re-install while on the ATT router.
[18:06] <setuid> nbusrone, It's powered off on my laptop rack.. did you set your custom modelines for the lower res?
[18:06] <setuid> cpined, http://192.168.1.254/cgi-bin/dhcpserver.ha
[18:07] <setuid> What does your "Cascaded Router" set up look like?
[18:08] <twau> if resolv.conf  / route -rn and ifconfig -a expent ip matches on both hosts matches, it should work, if not there is something wrong on your gateway imo
[18:08] <cpined> setuid, I get a 404 on that link
[18:09] <setuid> Go to wherever your Subnet & DHCP config is on your router
[18:09] <setuid> sounds like  you have a very old router, AT&T switched to the new Motorola routers awhile ago
[18:09] <setuid> The ones that take two wires to the wall out the back
[18:10] <cpined> setuid, only one wire out the back..DSL.
[18:10] <cpined> setuid, I'm on the DHCP configuration page.
[18:10] <Sbur> Is there a way to "disactivate" the thumbnail creation when you use internet?
[18:11] <cpined> setuid, what am I looking for?
[18:11] <setuid> cpined, "Router behind router" or "Cascaded router" configuration
[18:11] <poiquwer> Is anyone familiar with configuring mkinitramfs. I'm trying to figure out how to add the right modules/hooks for a fully encrypted drive.
[18:11] <nithin> Unable to change desktop wallpaper on ubuntu
[18:11] <poiquwer> LVM on LUKS
[18:11] <nithin> I have installed gnome recently...
[18:12] <nithin> But now I can't change the wallpaper
[18:12] <Guest89063> nithin have you tried re-installing it?
[18:12] <setuid> poiquwer, I wrote a blog post on this: http://blog.gnu-designs.com/solved-howto-mount-an-external-encrypted-luks-volume-under-linux/
[18:12] <nithin> what should I reinstall?
[18:12] <setuid> 4 years ago, wow, that's awhile
[18:12] <nithin> Now I have gnome and unity
[18:12] <nithin> I can select any of them before I login
[18:12] <cpined> setuid, I'm sorry I'm not understanding.
[18:12] <cpined> setuid, I'm re-installing the OS now.
[18:13] <setuid> cpined, You have to tell your AT&T router that you have another router behind it
[18:13] <Guest89063> firstly try:
[18:13] <Guest89063> apt-get update
[18:13] <Guest89063> apt-get upgrade
[18:13] <Guest89063> then reboot OS
[18:13] <nithin> But now I can't change the wallpaper either from Unity or Gnome
[18:13] <cpined> setuid, ok.  I only use that second router for netflix.  That explains why I can't browse the web when connected to that second router.
[18:13] <poiquwer> setuid: That's not exactly what I'm looking for.
[18:14] <poiquwer> I need an internal drive to boot from GRUB.
[18:14] <cpined> setuid, during install should I select the Lan or the Wan for primary network interface?
[18:15] <nithin> Please help me
[18:15] <setuid> WAN
[18:15] <cpined> setuid, ok.
[18:17] <cpined> setuid, should I try reboot system now?  maybe the wirless issue was fixed?
[18:17] <setuid> Is the install completed?
[18:18] <cpined> setuid, I did Rescue mode
[18:18] <cpined> setuid, and the network configuration said it completed, using the WAN.
[18:18] <setuid> Ok, give it a shot
[18:18] <nbusrone> setuid : I did a custom resolution but it doesn't work , are you willing to help me out ?
[18:19] <cpined> setuid, ok...gotta go through the whole install :(...
[18:21] <nithin> some one please help me
[18:21] <Rensouken> With what?
[18:22] <nithin> I can't change my desktop wall
[18:22] <nithin> wallpaper
[18:22] <bekks> nithin: Why is that vital?
[18:23] <bekks> nithin: And how do you try to change it, actually?
[18:23] <Rensouken> Which enviroment are you running? Gnome?
[18:23] <nithin> I tried to change it using the desktop preference option available in system settings
[18:23] <Chuck_Norris> nithin: try:  gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.background active true
[18:23] <nithin> I am new to ubuntu
[18:24] <Rensouken> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TC7oqkUOsA Does that help?
[18:24] <Chuck_Norris> nithin: open a terminal then copy and paste:  gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.background active true
[18:24] <nithin> did it
[18:24] <Rensouken> >_>
[18:24] <Rensouken> <_<
[18:24] <Chuck_Norris> solved it?
[18:25] <nithin> but no go
[18:25] <nithin> The command executed without any errors
[18:25] <nithin> but can't change the wallpaper
[18:25] <Rensouken> Watch the video
[18:25] <Rensouken> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TC7oqkUOsA
[18:25] <Guest89063> Maybe try and restart x-server?
[18:26] <nithin> the issue started after I install the gnome desktop
[18:27] <nithin> Rensouken: I know how to change the wallpaper in ubuntu.. but it is not working
[18:31] <Aer93> hi, is there a way of leaving a process runing in an ssh server and disconect?
[18:31] <Aer93> keeping the process runing I mean
[18:31] <EriC^^> Aer93: screen
[18:31] <nithin> I don't think this one works better than windows. Better go for windows I think.. worth spending money...
[18:31] <Aer93> EriC^^: but, does that work if I turn off my computer?
[18:31] <bekks> Use screen, tmux, nohup or disown.
[18:31] <EriC^^> Aer93: type screen, then type the command, then press ctrl+a then press e
[18:32] <bekks> Aer93: As long as the other computer still runs, thats no problem.
[18:32] <EriC^^> or ctrl+a then d
[18:32] <Aer93> EriC^^: great
[18:32] <nithin> I can't even change my desktop wallpaper.. unstable..
[18:32] <EriC^^> hold on
[18:32] <Aer93> bekks: If tried nohup
[18:32] <Aer93> bekks: but, then when I relog in
[18:32] <EriC^^> when you want to attach back to it type screen -r
[18:32] <Aer93> bekks: I cannot se the job running
[18:32] <EriC^^> Aer93: i think you need to disown it before exiting
[18:32] <bekks> Aer93: How did you try to use nohup?
[18:32] <EriC^^> just use screen
[18:32] <Aer93> bekks: I tried nohup command &
[18:32] <bekks> Using screen is more easy.
[18:33] <Aer93> bekks: but I like the fact of having that log file
[18:33] <Aer93> EriC^^: disown, I'll try that
[18:33] <bekks> Aer93: USe screen.
[18:34] <EriC^^> Aer93: yeah it's ctrl+a then ctrl+d
[18:34] <Aer93> bekks: can I still attach back even if I restart my computer?
[18:34] <EriC^^> Aer93: yeah
[18:34] <LedM> A LAST ADVICE, DAMNED FILTHY PLAGUES: IF I FOUND SOM KIND OF FAKE PEOPLE OF linux ABOMINATION ON SOMEWHERE ON SOMETIME, I WON'T LOST MORE  ANY SIMPLE SECOND AND KILL YOU ALLRIGHT?  All YOUR FILTHY BITCHES AND ALL YOUR DAMNED RACE WILL DIE ! DAMNES SICKEST FILTHY PLAGUES! ADICED! STAY AFFRAID ON PUBLISH LINUZ FOUNDATION OKEY? Bye BYE SUCKERS! X(
[18:34] <MonkeyDust> what's nohup?
[18:34] <bekks> Aer93: Using screen, yes.
[18:35] <EriC^^> MonkeyDust: no hang up
[18:35] <Aer93> bekks: ok
[18:35] <Aer93> bekks: a question about disown... i've tried it, and now the job has dissapeared, where did it go, how can I check that it's still runing
[18:36] <bekks> Aer93: It was attached to the init process. You can see it using ps aux. e.g.
[18:38] <Aer93> screens works great, thnx
[18:40] <Guest89063> How can I convince my company that everyone using the root account is a bad idea?
[18:40] <Guest89063> (by everyone I mean developers)
[18:41] <Guest89063> (and by using I mean logged in as root, no sudoers)
[18:41] <teward> Guest89063: http://serverfault.com/questions/57962/whats-wrong-with-always-being-root is one good start point
[18:41] <teward> Guest89063: http://askubuntu.com/questions/16178/why-is-it-bad-to-login-as-root has the Ubuntu-centric view, but is ultimately the same point
[18:42] <Guest89063> The company has the extremely tardy view of "if the customer isn't paying for it, then we haven't got time for it" *sigh*
[18:47] <bubbasaures> Guest89063, Are they using Ubuntu?
[18:49] <bubbasaures> sounds like debian at best and all off topic
[18:54] <firc600c0e7e> Hi
[19:13] <leos> good morning
[19:15] <leos> can anyone be of assistance? I get the black screen since installing 14.04
[19:16] <chris_> \list
[19:17] <DJones> chris_: There are no lists in this channel
[19:17] <chris_> haha I just found out thanks
[19:17] <Ussat> looking at the server iso and desktop iso for ubuntu, are there significant differences as to what is included in each ?
[19:18] <DJones> Ussat: Desktop has a GUI interface, server is command line only
[19:18] <Ussat> ok, so other than that....
[19:18] <Ussat> I know I can install same software in eather, just wondering specific to the iso
[19:21] <r_a_x> synaptic from terminal
[19:22] <r_a_x> unable to install
[19:23] <r_a_x> I am trying to install synaptic from terminal and I am getting the following error "Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done Package synaptic is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source  E: Package 'synaptic' has no installation candidate"
[19:25] <OerHeks> !info synaptic
[19:25] <OerHeks> r_a_x, make sure you have universe repo enabled
[19:26] <r_a_x> OerHeks: what is that?
[19:27] <OerHeks> r_a_x, go into softwarecenter > edit > sources, and see on the first page
[19:27] <leos> Well, I have a serious problem if someone is ready to respond. Since upgrading from 12.04 to 14.04 (yesterday) I got black screen three times. I would like to know if the software is broken somewhere or if there's an unfortunate coincidence.
[19:28] <r_a_x> OerHeks: I tried this command sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu $(lsb_release -sc) universe"
[19:28] <leos> Where to check
[19:28] <OerHeks> r_a_x, why? just use the softwarecenter gui
[19:28] <r_a_x> OerHeks:  ok
[19:29] <chris_> do you boot to black screen?
[19:29] <leos> no
[19:30] <leos> when I reboot, all is fine
[19:30] <r_a_x> OerHeks: universe is enabled by default
[19:31] <OerHeks> r_a_x, oke, thanb i don't understand why you cannot install synaptic
[19:31] <chris_> leos have you installed a graphs driver?
[19:32] <leos> I run the default for now
[19:32] <r_a_x> OerHeks: I was getting this problem before atoo, so I decided to reinstall ubuntu through bootable usb and this problems persists
[19:33] <r_a_x> OerHeks: I am behind a proxy server and I have made modification in /etc/apt/apt.conf file
[19:35] <OerHeks> r_a_x, shouldn't you say that earlier? i don't know about proxies.
[19:35] <chris_> try and see if your driver needs to be a proprietary one by going to additional drivers in settings
[19:35] <r_a_x> OerHeks: okay
[19:36] <OerHeks> r_a_x, all i know it this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto#Setting_up_apt-get_to_use_a_http-proxy
[19:36] <OerHeks> seen many people got help from it
[19:36] <leos> I am on the ubuntu forums, looks like my graphics card is one of the worst one can have with latest ubuntu versions
[19:36] <r_a_x> OerHeks: thanks!!
[19:37] <leos> for instance http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1972954
[19:39] <Kgirl> 껃
[19:40] <OerHeks> !ko
[19:41] <bynarie> hola!
[19:45] <towski> anyone have ubuntu touch running
[19:47] <bynarie> i do
[19:47] <bynarie> on nexus 7
[19:47] <bynarie> its junk
[19:48] <DJones> bynarie: If you're looking for support on running Ubuntuon tablets, you shoudl probably join #ubuntu-touch
[19:48] <bynarie> im not looking for support on ubuntu touch
[19:49] <OerHeks> towski ^^
[19:49] <bynarie> but thanks
[19:49] <DJones> bynarie: ok, so your nexus 7 reference is irrelevant then
[19:49] <phaidros> what is a good game on linux like freeciv?
[19:50] <bynarie> DJones, how is my comment irrelevant? towski asked if anyone is using it.. and i was trying to respond to him
[19:50] <DJones> bynarie: ok, it would have been good if you'd linked the nick of the person you were replying to
[19:50] <towski> right well it looks like I can't buy nexus 7 anymore anyway
[19:50] <towski> ?
[19:51] <towski> well maybe I don't need an open source phone
[19:51] <DJones> bynarie: Apologies for that, without a relevant nick, I thought you were spamming
[19:51] <bynarie> im not trying to be rude, but i think we can all figure out who i was responding to
[19:51] <bynarie> no its ok.. i apologize too
[19:51] <towski> me too
[19:52] <bynarie> towski, why cant you buy a n7?
[19:53] <towski> at least on the google play website it's no longer for sale
[19:53] <towski> I guess amazon is still selling them though
[19:53] <bynarie> towski, yes u can get one on amazon
[20:07] <leos> I may have installed the wrong version
[20:08] <leos> how can I check quickly if the CPU is on 32 bits or 64 bits?
[20:09] <OerHeks> lscpu
[20:09] <NinjaCowboy> Is there a way to stop Ubuntu from creating this .Trash-999 directory on my USB drives whenever I delete something?
[20:10] <bynarie> NinjaCowboy, haha i had a similar problem last night
[20:10] <skowronek> skowronek
[20:10] <bynarie> the .trash folder is similar to a "recycle bin" in windows
[20:10] <bynarie> you need to actually delete the file
[20:11] <NinjaCowboy> I know that. I just want Ubuntu to not do it, so I don't have to keep deleting stuff twice.
[20:11] <OerHeks> NinjaCowboy, use terminal to remove, then it won't end up in trash
[20:12] <leos> @OerHeks - thanks
[20:12] <bubbasaures> leos, Install the intel graphic installer for linux, at their site
[20:12] <NinjaCowboy> leos: If you see lm in the flags section, you have a 64-bit CPU.
[20:13] <leos> It's 64 and my OS is 32bit. Any way to modify it or would I have to reinstall it from scratch?
[20:13] <leos> so I'd get rid of the problems
[20:13] <leos> @yes, it's 64
[20:13] <bubbasaures> leos, That is a reinstall fro 32 to 64
[20:13] <NinjaCowboy> leos: modify what?
[20:14] <leos> reinstall from 32 to 64
[20:14] <NinjaCowboy> Yeah, you'd have to reinstall the 64-bit version.
[20:14] <bubbasaures> leos, How much memory do you have?
[20:14] <leos> if there's an easy way to do it via terminal or to write a iso
[20:14] <leos> 2GB RAM
[20:15] <bubbasaures> leos, I would bump the ram before going 64 that really is not enough unless you just run no apps in general or very little.
[20:15] <ikonia> that is fine
[20:15] <ikonia> there is no need to "bump the ram" to use 64bit
[20:15] <Techspectre> lately when I hit install updates in the update manager it hasn't been asking me for sudo, what's up with that?
[20:16] <bubbasaures> that is a bit over described but that is the issue ram.
[20:16] <leos> because the black screen is the worst of my problems, but I have a load more since the upgrade
[20:16] <ikonia> leos: why do you think moving to 64bit will solve a black screen problem ?
[20:16] <bubbasaures> leos, I have that card and never have issues, so not sure what's going in there.
[20:17] <EriC^^> Techspectre: sometimes you type it and dont complete the install and it does that
[20:17] <bubbasaures> I never upgrade though
[20:17] <NinjaCowboy> leos: Did you do an in-place upgrade?
[20:17] <Techspectre> EriC^^, you mean at one point I may have done that and it's retained sudo?
[20:17] <leos> @ikonia because moving to ubuntu 14.04 may have caused it in the first place
[20:17] <ismail_> !list
[20:17] <EriC^^> Techspectre: yeah
[20:17] <ikonia> leos: so again - why do you think moving to 64bit will fix it ?
[20:18] <Techspectre> EriC^^, how do I get that to stop? I mean it's kinda scary for something not to ask me for sudo
[20:18] <EriC^^> Techspectre: i know, i thought it was a bug at first
[20:19] <leos> unless there's a coincidental occurrence of a problem with hardware
[20:19] <leos> I got some other issues as well
[20:19] <ikonia> leos: you're not making sense
[20:19] <ikonia> leos: you say you think the problem came with a 14.04 upgrade - but you think a move to 64bit will fix it ?
[20:19] <ikonia> that doesn't make sense
[20:19] <Techspectre> EriC^^, but when I do apt commands in the terminal it doesn't work without sudo
[20:20] <leos> @Ikonia - I was using u 12.04 and upgraded to u 14.04
[20:20] <EriC^^> Techspectre: yeah, i've no idea how you could force it to always prompt for the password if you continue an uncompleted download
[20:20] <bubbasaures> leos, ikonia Is correct, have you run it in the guest and seen this blackout?
[20:20] <leos> since the upgrade I started getting problems
[20:20] <ikonia> leos: I understand that part, however I don't understand why you are now trying to change to 64bit to fix a problem
[20:20] <Techspectre> EriC^^, oh I'm sure that the uncompleted download is finished by now, it hasn't asked me for password in weeks
[20:21] <EriC^^> Techspectre: oh
[20:21] <NinjaCowboy> leos: Did you do an in-place upgrade, or did you wipe the disk and install 14.04 fresh?
[20:21] <NinjaCowboy> A fresh install is less likely to have problems than an in-place upgrade.
[20:21] <leos> never run as guest
[20:23] <leos> @ninja - it was in-place
[20:23] <leos> @ikonia - I have many problems
[20:23] <leos> the worst is the black screen, it gives me the creeps
[20:23] <leos> haven't tried it as guest because it's occasional and sudden, it's not something I can generate at will
[20:23] <ikonia> leos: I understand all this
[20:23] <ikonia> leos: what I don't understand is your approach to fixing them
[20:23] <leos> my approach is asking first
[20:24] <ikonia> yes, you seem more interested in upgradeing to 64bit rather than actually resolving the issues
[20:24] <ikonia> which is what I don't understand
[20:25] <leos> :)
[20:25] <leos> that's why I am here
[20:25] <leos> but if I am to reinstall it afresh, why not use the 64 bit version if the system is 64 bit?
[20:25] <bubbasaures> ikonia, We all guess at times and it can be hard to admit.
[20:25] <ikonia> leos: there is no problem in using 64bit, I just don't understand why that is a solution to the issues you are currently having
[20:25] <NinjaCowboy> leos: You can, but 64-bit has a slight memory overhead.
[20:25] <ikonia> if your goal is to use 64bit, then great, clean install and job done, if your job is to fix the problems you have, you should work them through with people
[20:26] <leos> it may not be
[20:26] <leos> if I want to get rid of them, I'd have to get back to using 12.04
[20:26] <NinjaCowboy> ikonia: So, the black screen appears randomly, at any time?
[20:27] <ikonia> NinjaCowboy: I have no idea, I can't quite get a detailed situation, as it jumps around
[20:27] <leos> for instance, a theme is gone in u14
[20:27] <bubbasaures> leos, You have your cart before the horse you have guessed, that is okay admit it and lets get to fixing or what you need.
[20:27] <leos> the reverse high contrast, which I need for my bad eyes
[20:28] <NinjaCowboy> sorry, I meant leos... I'd think it would be a graphics driver issue.
[20:28] <leos> wine is working all wrong
[20:29] <leos> had a hard time with networking
[20:29] <ikonia> leos: it's impossible to help you, you need to focus on a problem and work it through
[20:30] <streulma> hello, I have to build a kernel module to use for ethernet, but I want to do it with DKMS. Is there a good guide somewhere?
[20:31] <bekks> streulma: Which network card do you have, in particular?
[20:31] <streulma> bekks: DUB 1312
[20:31] <streulma> bekks (DLink)
[20:31] <bekks> Oh, that crap.
[20:31] <pseubodot> FYI: ubuntu 14.10 netinst fails to install because kernel modules available don't match the kernel in current netinst
[20:32] <leos> @ninjacowboy
[20:32] <leos> yes
[20:32] <leos> randomly
[20:32] <ikonia> net installer worked fine for me
[20:32] <streulma> AX88179
[20:32] <streulma> bekks ???
[20:32] <bill_> hi with mate ubuntu 14.10 window always pop under and I would like them to come up on top - any idea how to do that
[20:33] <bekks> streulma: Whats the USB device id?
[20:34] <streulma> bekks: I'm able to build it normaly with make and make install, modprobe ...
[20:34] <streulma> but I want DKMS, because kernel upgrade, it will always work !
[20:34] <bekks> streulma: Whats the USB device id?
[20:35] <NinjaCowboy> leos: You can try looking at the dmesg output or the Xorg logs to troubleshoot it.
[20:36] <leos> @Ninja - I'm afraid I don't know how. Will check the manufacturer for a driver.
[20:36] <leos> or some known issues they might have
[20:36] <ikonia> your all rushing without any understanding of the problem
[20:37] <ikonia> you don't even know what graphics card is in there - and you're suggesting looking on the web for drivers
[20:37] <bekks> leos: Which hardware exactly do you have, which driver do you put in question?
[20:37] <leos> @bekks Intel® 965GM x86/MMX/SSE2
[20:38] <streulma> bekks: Bus 002 Device 057: ID 2001:4a00 D-Link Corp.
[20:39] <pa1> Its sad that intel is not supporting 12.04 for the graphics drivers, i have looked at alternate methods of installing them, but its sad
[20:39] <ikonia> intel is supporting 12.04
[20:39] <ikonia> they support linux in general
[20:39] <ikonia> it's part of the kernel and xorg by default
[20:41] <NinjaCowboy> ikonia: Their driver update utility doesn't support it.
[20:41] <pa1> oh but their intel driver installer is no longer supporting 12.04
[20:41] <ikonia> because you should'nt be using that
[20:42] <ikonia> you should be using the intel components that are shipped with your distro's xorg/kernel combination
[20:43] <pa1> https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/2013/intelr-graphics-installer-1.0-linux
[20:43] <ikonia> pa1: so ?
[20:43] <OerHeks> the standard intel driver supports your card, http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/utopic/man4/intel.4.html so your theme issue is not related i guess
[20:44] <bekks> streulma: The 2001:4a00 device is supported by the ax88179_178a modue which is shipped with the kernel since 3.9
[20:44] <leos> nope, just came in the same gift box
[20:44] <pa1> check that out, it says 12.04 is no longer supported, the problem being, my ubuntu does not recognize my integrated graphics
[20:44] <pa1> just did a fresh install
[20:44] <ikonia> pa1: no it doesn't say that
[20:45] <ikonia> pa1: it says that UTILITY is no longer support
[20:45] <ikonia> pa1: and as I said earlier you SHOULD be using the intel components your distro supply and manage
[20:46] <pa1> it says its obsolete (basically not supported), i am trying to prevent using xorg
[20:46] <ikonia> prevent using xorg ?? what are you talking about
[20:46] <ikonia> pa1: it says the TOOL is not supported, which is just a shell script really
[20:46] <ikonia> pa1: the intel components are shipped with ubuntu - you should not be using that tool/script, you should use the intel components shipped with ubuntu
[20:47] <NinjaCowboy> Funny how Intel supports 13.10, which is no longer supported by Ubuntu, but they refuse to support 12.04, which has support all the way until 2017.
[20:47] <kostkon> pa1, your card is too old anyway. You are already using the intel driver, just not the very latest version.
[20:47] <mastershake> hey guys idk if this really applies to this channel but i have a very specific problem and i was hoping someone can lend a hand
[20:47] <ikonia> NinjaCowboy: they are not regusing anything
[20:47] <ikonia> mastershake: if it's an ubuntu problem, this channel is fine
[20:47] <pa1> I am using haswell, i5 4th gen
[20:47] <pa1> :p
[20:48] <daftykins> i still don't see the benefit to trying to install any alternative drivers for intel, under *any* Ubuntu
[20:48] <ikonia> daftykins: thank you
[20:48] <kostkon> pa1, my mistake
[20:48] <mastershake> well long story short my 12gb ssd is maxed out and im like locked out of it, can i boot gparted, format the ssd, and then reinstall?
[20:48] <ikonia> mastershake: you can do that
[20:49] <ikonia> although that seems an over kill solution
[20:49] <daftykins> mastershake: what do you mean by maxxed out? full?
[20:49] <mastershake> full, yeah.
[20:49] <worble> I'm trying to run update-grub in a chroot but I keep getting "error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?)" but I believe I had bind-mounted /dev outside the chroot
[20:49] <daftykins> mastershake: is it solely your Ubuntu / partition? (root)
[20:49] <mastershake> yes
[20:50] <daftykins> mastershake: nuke some old kernels, i'd bet that'll reclaim a lot. are you booted into it right now?
[20:50] <ikonia> worble: drop out of the chroot and check
[20:50] <mastershake> it wont even boot into KDE
[20:50] <mastershake> apt-get is broken
[20:50] <worble> ikonia: Looks okay
[20:50] <daftykins> mastershake: ok are you typing from a live session, or?
[20:50] <mastershake> no im typing from a diff pc
[20:50] <ikonia> worble: and proc ?
[20:50] <daftykins> mastershake: ok can you get a live session booted on it?
[20:51] <Simplar> Hello. I have a program for Linux Debian / Ubuntu which I'd like to sell for a small sum of money. Where will you advise me to start about it? Thank you guys for any tip.
[20:51] <worble> ikonia: "type non (rw,bind)"
[20:51] <mastershake> let me try im not sure
[20:51] <worble> none*
[20:51] <mastershake> if i can, then what should i do?>
[20:52] <ikonia> Simplar: not really something this channel deals with
[20:52] <Simplar> ikonia: which channel can you advise me then?
[20:52] <ikonia> Simplar: you can look on ubuntu app store wiki for how to get your application included
[20:52] <ikonia> Simplar: no idea, selling your software is not an ubuntu issue, thats up to you to find a path to market
[20:53] <OerHeks> Simplar, http://developer.ubuntu.com/publish/apps/other-forms-of-submitting-apps/commercial-software-faqs/
[20:55] <worble> ikonia: Should these all be bind mounts or mount -t proc ?
[20:55] <ikonia> worble: from memory all bind
[20:55] <ikonia> but check the docs
[20:55] <worble> ikonia: Which docs?
[20:55] <wannamod> curious as to where to start to attach application volume sliders along with master volume slider in the dropdown of gnome desktop. can anyone help?
[20:56] <mastershake> if i can boot live, then would that give me access to my ssd to clean some shit up?
[20:57] <daftykins> mastershake: yes, don't use that language here though please.
[20:57] <daftykins> mastershake: get it booted then we can progress
[20:57] <ikonia> !grub2 > worble
[20:57] <mastershake> k. sorry
[21:00] <wannamod> how would i go about editing my gui in ubuntu? specificly taking parts of one gui and adding them to another, specificly the sliders from settings>sound>applicaitons, to the volume dropdown on the desktop
[21:01] <bekks> wannamod: that not how things work on linux.
[21:03] <vbgunz> does anyone know why I cannot do the following sudo cryptsetup luksClose sdc5_crypt... I keep getting the following -> device-mapper: remove ioctl on sdc5_crypt failed: Device or resource busy ... I'm done with the disk, it was perfect for what I needed but I'm done and I can't close it :(
[21:04] <vbgunz> I umounted everything from it, nothing should be in use but I could never close it with cryptsetup :(
[21:05] <vbgunz> I've luksClosed everything I could on it and umounted everything but still get that error... I really feel like this is a bug, I just can't see what I'm doing wrong :|
[21:07] <daftykins> if i could remember the command that lists open file handles, i'd suggest it
[21:07] <deadanddying> i have a compaq presario c700 laptop with a dual core processor, but it seems like the processor is dying, is there any way i can strip the gui down to ease the load on the core? otherwise i lose connection to daemon, and im forced to start  my session all over again
[21:07] <EriC^^> daftykins: lsof ?
[21:07] <daftykins> EriC^^: yes :D
[21:07] <deadanddying> lsof?
[21:07] <daftykins> vbgunz: ^
[21:07] <bubbasaures> deadanddying, ##hardware
[21:08] <daftykins> deadanddying: memtest ?
[21:08] <filippo> Hi guys! Why when I try to launch some applications sometimes Ubuntu (14.04.1 in my case) seems to freeze for a second? It is because of CPU priority/affinity on some processes? You can notice this behavior just launching 'System Settings' and then trying to move the mouse/trackpad. Sorry for my bad english..
[21:09] <bubbasaures> filippo, How much memory do you have?
[21:09] <filippo> 16gbytes of RAM splitted on 4 SODIMMs
[21:10] <bubbasaures> filippo, Cool, first thought was hardware limitations and swapping is all.
[21:12] <filippo> bubbasaures: Understood, the swap partition was created by the Ubuntu installer and it amounts to 17gbytes
[21:12] <lkjhgf> hi
[21:12] <Kirsch> hi everyone - i am reinstalling a new server and i had an issue getting a django app up with uwsgi and now its working but i seem to have  a weird state with apt, whenever i do an install/upgrade, it tries to reconfigure uwsgi
[21:12] <lkjhgf> anybody know where i can find a channel or somebody knowledgable about details of the HTTP protocol?
[21:12] <Kirsch> i do want the package and it doesn't seem to be able to start it - it also will never start properly even thoguh the sites i've configured are running properly.
[21:13] <bubbasaures> filippo, Right probably not the issue but once it starts using the swap, what you describe is common, with a spinning HD anyway.
[21:14] <Walex2> lkjhgf: various mailing lists associated with the W3C
[21:15] <vbgunz> daftykins: there is just too much to look over with lsof, I tried grepping the device name /dev/sdb5, sdc5_crypt, the mount point /mnt and nothing comes back from lsof | grep. I tried just looking over it and nothing pops out at me.
[21:15] <bubbasaures> !alis | lkjhgf
[21:15] <filippo> bubbasaures: Thank you for your time bubbasaures but this is not my case because the system is running on a modern SSD (Samsung 840 Pro 256gbytes) and I think the latency should be minimum, correct me if I'm wrong.
[21:16] <bubbasaures> filippo, It is on my SSD, (minimal), yeah that's why I specified that
[21:17] <filippo> bubbasaures: Oh ok :-)
[21:18] <bubbasaures> filippo, There is a auto trim in place, however you set up a cron with more control if needed. Do you have a separate home?
[21:19] <bubbasaures> I just run a trim command as needed
[21:22] <Kirsch> whenever i run apt, it tries to do something with a package everytime, is there a way to forcefully remove the package and then install it so it doesn't get stuck? it shows as "1 not fully installed or removed."
[21:23] <OerHeks> bubbasaures, i just added discard to fstab for permanent trimming.
[21:23] <deadanddying> i have a compaq presario c700, 991 mb ram, Intel® Pentium(R) Dual CPU T2330 @ 1.60GHz × 2, 64 gb ssd model: M4-CT064M4SSD2, 2.4gb swap space. the processor is failing, under load, and crashes to daemon alot, is there a way that i can strip the gui down to just the basics, so i can use the majority of the core for the load?
[21:23] <daftykins> deadanddying: as i said, memtest.
[21:23] <Bobby__> why not just dust it out or something?
[21:24] <deadanddying> how do memtest?
[21:24] <vbgunz> I just rebooted. really sucks to no end I could never luksClose and umount an otherwise perfect before that moment operation
[21:24] <vbgunz> I hate it
[21:24] <bubbasaures> OerHeks, Yeah me to, I'm trying to wear it out, just curious really, never had a HD fail yet, unconscious drive really, having everything backed up and again backed up
[21:25] <yang> After upgrading (trisquel) ubuntu I am unable to still set the view on my external monitor via VGA-OUT
[21:25] <yang> previously it was defined for this Window Manager, but now the command "xrandr" doesnt display multiple outputs anymore... ?
[21:25] <OerHeks> generally don't fill up a SSD, 80-85% max
[21:25] <bubbasaures> yeah
[21:26] <bubbasaures> yang, That is not supported here is all, sorry.
[21:26] <yang> ok
[21:26] <Bobby__> @yang - is the correct graphics driver being used?
[21:26] <OerHeks> deadanddying, hold shift @boot and use that memtest86 entry in grub
[21:27] <deadanddying> will try.
[21:27] <bubbasaures> Bobby__, yang #trisquel
[21:27] <rypervenche> Kirsch: What package?
[21:28] <didac> hello
[21:28] <yang> Bobby__: yeah, probably with a new upgrade the drivers have changed...
[21:30] <yang> I mean "xrandr" used to display other outputs now it just says "xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default"
[21:30] <yang> I ll google up that error
[21:30] <Kirsch> rypervenche: it was uwsgi - but i figured it out
[21:31] <Kirsch> whats weird about uwsgi is that my two ini files both work but the daemon always shows fail when it starts but it works. it does this on every ubuntu server i use
[21:31] <Bobby__> does anyone know why I would get "gave up waiting for root device" after compiling a new kernel? i tried rootdelay=90 already
[21:35] <rypervenche> Bobby__: Your grub config and/or initramfs are not configured correctly.
[21:37] <delt> Hello
[21:37] <Bobby__> @rypervenche - i checked grub config and it is the same as previous as far as UUID etc.  i can compile a "normal" kernel and boot just fine but I am trying 3.18.0 rc7 "for-next" to get my baytrail sound working
[21:37] <delt> can someone help me with my kerberos/nfs4 setup?
[21:38] <rypervenche> Bobby__: Is it set to use the new kernel though and a new initramfs?
[21:38] <delt> mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting laptop:/tmp
[21:38] <delt> mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting laptop:/
[21:39] <delt> i just setup my laptop as a nfs server to test if i've got this down.... apparently not :(
[21:41] <delt> can someone help me with my kerberos/nfs4 setup?
[21:41] <Bobby__> @rypervenche - i just checked and yes it is set correctly and the initrd and vmlinuz exist
[21:42] <bekks> delt: Depends on your question.
[21:43] <Bobby__> @rypervenche - curiously, vmlinuz and initrd are several megabytes smaller than the stock kernel
[21:43] <delt> bekks: why is my client unable to mount nfs shares from the server? (in this simple test case, client and server are both the same machine, "laptop")
[21:44] <delt> and the kerberos server is my main server, deimos
[21:44] <delt> all under the domain deimos.ca
[21:44] <bekks> delt: Well, you can tell us. Which error message do you get?
[21:44] <delt> bekks: mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting laptop:/
[21:45] <bekks> delt: So check the permissions on the server
[21:45] <delt> bekks: i created the principal nfs/laptop.deimos.ca@DEIMOS.CA
[21:45] <delt> and extracted the keys from the laptop machine
[21:45] <delt> with ktadd command of kadmin
[21:46] <delt> bekks: my /etc/exports only has a single entry: /tmp               192.168.0.0/16(rw,async,no_root_squash,sec=krb5)
[21:47] <delt> bekks: without using sec=krb5 (on both the server and client) it can mount fine.
[21:47] <bekks> delt: Well, when sharing /tmp, why do you try to mount laptop:/ instead of laptop/tmp/ ?
[21:47] <delt> bekks: i tried both
[21:48] <delt> bekks: without krb5 authentication, it works with laptop:/tmp but a tutorial on the web said it should also work with servername:/ if fsid=0
[21:48] <delt> oh wait.... i forgot fsid=0 ...but that shouldn't cause problems right?
[21:49] <deadanddying> mem test complete, says pass. i just want to be able to use this P.O.S. with mountall losing connection to plymouth, or daemon crashing, and it runs fine if i keep the load light, i just want to make the gui less impacting than it already is.
[21:49] <huseyin> facebook
[21:50] <delt> bekks: just changed it (added fsid=0) and restarted the nfs server, same mistake
[21:50] <daftykins> deadanddying: it loops repeatedly, i do 3 passes minimum on a suspect system
[21:50] <delt> weird thing is, on the kerberos server i'm not getting any logs of the mount attempt
[21:51] <daftykins> at not point does memtest86+ ever say anything is complete :)
[21:51] <daftykins> *no point
[21:53] <delt> bekks: still there?
[21:53] <squinty> deadanddying:  could also ask in a hardware channel about reseating chips/memory sticks, replacing cpu thermal grease, make sure that all your cooling fans are running....very common problems on older equipment
[21:54] <delt> http://pastebin.com/uT4v8zxS
[21:56] <deadanddying> daftykins: i know this laptop is, as my alias implys dead and dying, all i want to do is minimalize impact of the gui, i cant click dash home, because as it loads that fancy popout, it just crashes, so all i want to do is just free up some processing power to use in more imprtant things.
[22:00] <raidghos1> Having some issues with openvpn on ubuntu
[22:11] <Slimmy> Hello. I was stupid enough to change /home rights to not be read by myself. How to change it back? I cant access my user now. When i got into root terminal in recovery mod and did cmod 777 /home it says its ready only
[22:11] <bekks> Slimmy: you have to use a live cd.
[22:11] <ikonia> Slimmy: disk is mounted read only
[22:11] <ikonia> logging in does not require access to /home if you are not using the gui
[22:12] <ikonia> you could just login from a terminal and change it
[22:12] <Slimmy> when in recovery mode its mounted read only?
[22:12] <ikonia> Slimmy: if there is a problem with the file system
[22:12] <Slimmy> i cant login tryed it
[22:12] <ikonia> what is the error
[22:12] <Slimmy> thanks for all the in-time answers by the way
[22:12] <Slimmy> im in my login interface atm
[22:13] <delt> Slimmy: go to a VT (ctrl+alt+F1 to F6) and login as root
[22:13] <Slimmy> i click my account and enter password. since i changed the rights whenever i enter my pass it justs... relogs. I mean i get back to my screen
[22:13] <ikonia> you can't login as root
[22:13] <ikonia> there is no root password
[22:13] <ikonia> login as your self
[22:13] <Slimmy> btw i got access to guest account
[22:13] <Slimmy> so i go recovery?
[22:14] <ikonia> Slimmy: thats because it can't access your home directory
[22:14] <Slimmy> or use my live CD?
[22:14] <ikonia> Slimmy: don't use the gui to login and it will be fine
[22:14] <ikonia> it will just warn you it can't access your home directory and log you in
[22:14] <Slimmy> how to change it?
[22:14] <ikonia> change what ?
[22:14] <Slimmy> from gui
[22:14] <ikonia> ctrl+alt+F1
[22:15] <ikonia> for example
[22:15] <Slimmy> Ok sec
[22:15] <delt> Slimmy: by default, ctrl+alt+F7 will return you to the graphic (X11) system
[22:16] <parmiggiano> delt: hopefully that wasn't too late ;)
[22:16] <Slimmy> by the way, why kali linux in installation wont exchange keys on wlan0
[22:16] <ikonia> what has kali linux got to do with this ?
[22:16] <Slimmy> it was a lil bit but nvm
[22:16] <bekks> Slimmy: Thats a good question for the kali support. Do yo use kali?
[22:16] <Slimmy> its out of topic :) another prob i got. Yes
[22:16] <delt> parmiggiano: if he has problems logging in, i would assume he's using IRC from a different machine
[22:16] <ikonia> Slimmy: is this problem on ubuntu or kali ?
[22:16] <bekks> Slimmy: So currently you are using kali?
[22:16] <ikonia> lets be clear about what you are doing here
[22:16] <Slimmy> i would use backtrack but its not maintent
[22:17] <asdf> Is it possible to do a dual boot with ubuntu and win7 if I already have my full system encryption with TC?
[22:17] <ikonia> Slimmy: is your login problem on ubuntu or kali ?
[22:17] <Slimmy> Lets focus on login prob for now cuz i cant focus on all the chat. It is in ubuntu 14.04 trusty tahr
[22:17] <ikonia> ok
[22:17] <ikonia> thats what we are interested in
[22:17] <Slimmy> now it says that there were errors while mountin /
[22:18] <Slimmy> press f for fix, I for ignore, S for not mountin, or M for manual mount
[22:18] <ikonia> Slimmy: thats a different problem
[22:18] <ikonia> that should not happen at login
[22:18] <ikonia> Slimmy: that happens at boot time
[22:18] <Slimmy> its in greek i hope i translated well. It just occured. Previous times i didnt see this
[22:18] <ikonia> what are you doing ? booting or logging in
[22:18] <Slimmy> bootin to login :P
[22:18] <ikonia> right, I've given you very clear instrutions about what to do and you appear to be ignoring them
[22:18] <ikonia> so I'm going to stop helping now
[22:18] <Slimmy> Sorry
[22:19] <Slimmy> I just clicked on boot
[22:19] <Slimmy> And this appeared
[22:19] <SonikkuAmerica> Slimmy: I would press S and fix /etc/fstab
[22:19] <Slimmy> I didnt do anythang
[22:19] <ikonia> who said it's a problem with /etc/fstab ?
[22:19] <ikonia> it's compaining about file system inconsistancys which matches the read only file system
[22:19] <SonikkuAmerica> ikonia: I just got here. Take it easy.
[22:20] <Slimmy> Yeah i know but when i opened my pc this popped up. Im sorry Ikonia
[22:20] <Slimmy> i pressed S and says /tmp isnt ready
[22:20] <jkeene> I have a server that was recently compromised. Each time I try to remove the malware (in /boot) it's immediately replaced with a different name. How can I remove it once and for all?
[22:20] <curiousx> Slimmy: your disk got bad sectors
[22:20] <asdf> jkeene can you boot with a different system? Live CD or something?
[22:21] <Slimmy> curiousx: Oh so what u suggest
[22:21] <bekks> jkeene: BAckup data again (assuming your important data is already backed up), and reinstall the system.
[22:21] <hexafraction> Hi, I have a dual-monitor config where the primary is to the right of the secondary (the primary is internal to a laptop, and I can't move the secondary physically due to space constraints). I set the layout in system settings for my user, and it works. However, I can't set it for the guest user and logon screen (both becume disorienting to use since the mouse moves between monitors on the wrong edges). How can I set the layout for the lo
[22:21] <pecorade> hi.
[22:21] <hexafraction> Hello.
[22:21] <Slimmy> By the way why is ubuntu.gr down?
[22:22] <bekks> Because they didnt pay taxes? ;)
[22:22] <Slimmy> hehehe that is quite possible
[22:23] <jkeene> bekks: is that the only way? I suppose it is
[22:23] <Slimmy> Can you guys help me about kali? i will fix 14.04 on my own.
[22:23] <Chuck_Norris> Slimmy: do you got admin privilegies or root account?
[22:23] <jkeene> asdf: it's not in my physical location
[22:23] <ikonia> Slimmy: we do not support kali here
[22:23] <Slimmy> Oh
[22:23] <Slimmy> Where should i go?
[22:24] <ikonia> Slimmy: read the kali support information, if you can't do that, kali support resources will not be willing to help you
[22:24] <bekks> jkeene: Yes, thats the only way to be sure you get rid of that malware-
[22:24] <Slimmy> ikonia: ok thanks
[22:25] <jkeene> bekks: thanks for your help!
[22:25] <asdf> jkeene maybe the malware doesn't protect it's startup location but doubtful. So backup and reinstall
[22:40] <Slimmy_> Hello im back. Im logged in from terminal. How to change my /home rights?
[22:41] <Slimmy_> i chmod 777 /home and chown <myuser> /home is it right?
[22:41] <SonikkuAmerica> Slimmy_: chown comes first, but yeah
[22:41] <SonikkuAmerica> And you'll want to 755, not 777
[22:41] <Slimmy_> Wow its ok now im in. Thanks a lot for tellin me not to gui thank you all! <3
[22:41] <Slimmy_> Ok sec imma change it <3
[22:41] <bekks> Slimmy_: Thats not correct, no.
[22:42] <Slimmy_> bekks: what u mean
[22:42] <SonikkuAmerica> bekks: (Oh, you got me. Good catch.)
[22:42] <SonikkuAmerica> Slimmy_: Not the /home folder itself..
[22:42] <bekks> Slimmy_: chmod 755 /home; chmod 755 /home/youruser; chown youruser:youruser /home/youruser
[22:42] <SonikkuAmerica> but /home/$username
[22:42] <bekks> That would make more sense.
[22:43] <Slimmy_> no i had locked the whole /home :D
[22:43] <SonikkuAmerica> Right. The attributes in chmod don't apply to subdirs or files inside the dir
[22:43] <Slimmy_> i got in from liveCD and it had an X on it as root did so i thought then ok...
[22:43] <Slimmy_> Oh ok sec
[22:43] <Slimmy_> actually it is ok and rights seem to be great.
[22:44] <bekks> Slimmy_: 777 on /home is not ok, but nonsense :)
[22:44] <Slimmy_> I did 755 now :D
[22:44] <Slimmy_> Now, can i ask? When on guest i want people not to be able to access my files. How to do that?
[22:45] <bekks> Slimmy_: chmod 700 /home/youruser
[22:45] <Slimmy_> ok sec
[22:46] <Slimmy_> done
[22:46] <Slimmy_> thanks a lot
[22:47] <Slimmy_> How to install ubuntu 14.10 64 bit easily? In my 32 bit laptop it came up as an update that i had to just click and wait. But in my dual boot with windows 8 64 bit ubuntu 14.04 it didnt
[22:48] <ikonia> Slimmy_: you can't install 64bit on a 32 bit laptop
[22:48] <Slimmy_> no lol i want it on my other pc. With windows 8. Sorry for not being accurate
[22:48] <ikonia> !install | Slimmy_
[22:49] <Slimmy_> ubottu: !automate event isnt found but i will read these right away thanks
[22:49] <ikonia> !automate
[22:49] <ikonia> Slimmy_: looks fine to me
[22:50] <Slimmy_> !automate
[22:50] <ikonia> Slimmy_: seems like it's found just fine
[22:50] <Slimmy_> bash: !automate: event not found
[22:50] <ikonia> that's not a command you type on your machine
[22:50] <Slimmy_> isnt it?
[22:50] <ikonia> thats a trigger to activate ubottu the channels info bot
[22:50] <ikonia> it shows you links to read
[22:50] <Slimmy_> i feel stupid a lot
[22:51] <SchrodingersScat> Slimmy_: everyone does sometimes
[22:51] <Slimmy_> hahahaha nice. Thank you all for welcoming me to ubuntu and helpin me this much
[22:55] <linuxuz3r> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[22:55] <ikonia> ?
[22:56] <linuxuz3r> sorry
[22:56] <linuxuz3r> i am wondering how many characters my irc client can handle
[22:56] <bekks> linuxuz3r: Far more than you typed.
[22:57] <CodeGos6> is symlink some special filesystem entity or just a file? basicaly if server recives file from user and then serves it back, is it possible that file uploaded was a symlink?
[22:57] <bekks> CodeGos6: No.
[22:58] <Slimmy_> ikonia i dont want to install ubuntu from scratch. i got it in an UEFI partition with dual boot windows 8. Because i dont really like messing with UEFI i wanna install it without CD. In my notebook that is dual boot with windows XP and sata controller is Compatibility (dunno if thsi helps) it just came up on updates. Why didnt it come up in my 64 bit system that is dual boot with winds 8? What can i do?
[22:58] <ikonia> Slimmy_: what are you talking about ?
[22:58] <ikonia> Slimmy_: do you mean you want to upgrade your 14.04 install to 14.10 ?
[22:59] <AlbertoCG> Hello, I have this .desktop file with gksu which asks for my password, but doesn't open the application at all
[22:59] <Slimmy_> ikonia: yes
[22:59] <ikonia> !upgrade | Slimmy_
[23:00] <Slimmy_> ikonia: ty
[23:01] <phix> mmmm, 12.04 LTS, 14.04 LTS or 14.10
[23:01] <bastidrazor> phix: yes
[23:01] <phix> bastidrazor: which one?
[23:02] <OerHeks> All of them are supported.
[23:02] <phix> Which one should I choose?
[23:02] <squinty> Slimmy_:  might also want to check Software and Updates > Nofify me of a new ubuntu version
[23:02] <Slimmy_> squinty: doin it right away!
[23:03] <bekks> phix: if you are asking like that: 14.04
[23:03] <phix> ok
[23:04] <Slimmy_> bekks: why 14.04 and not 14.10 ?
[23:04] <Prezident> How can i customize tabs in ubuntu terminal? They are to big imao, i want them very small at top
[23:04] <Prezident> Now they are maybe 1cm big, i want them maybe 5mm
[23:04] <erasmus> install cinnamon
[23:04] <bekks> Slimmy_: Because 14.04 is a LTS release.
[23:04] <Prezident> now tabs takes around 1 and half cm on top, i want them much smaller
[23:05] <Slimmy_> bekks: oh kk
[23:05] <Slimmy_> bekks: and why isnt 14.10 lts? It has less stuff?
[23:06] <bekks> Slimmy_: BEcause it wasnt released in April 2014. :)
[23:06] <Slimmy_> I think its off topic but, my nokia headset plays awesome in my ubuntu. In windows and android sound is corrupted. On windows i need external headset with headphones support for it to be proper. How can i possibly stream linux drivers to android so music will play fine?
[23:07] <Slimmy_> bekks: Lts isnt long term support? So it means that i will have fine support and my software be up-to-date? Wont my 14.10 be so?
[23:08] <bekks> Slimmy_: LTS is long term support, which gives you support for 5 years. non-LTS is supported for 9 months.
[23:08] <xangua> Slimmy_: long term support means long term support, up to 5 years, the normal releases only have 9 month support
[23:08] <Slimmy_> wow *-*
[23:08] <Slimmy_> aint it worth havin 14.10 for 9 months just to get back to 14.04 when its over?
[23:09] <bekks> Slimmy_: No.
[23:09] <xangua> Slimmy_: you know ubuntu is released every 6 months right¿
[23:10] <Slimmy_> xangua: yep
[23:10] <phix> Slimmy_: You have a rooted Android device?
[23:10] <Slimmy_> phix: ye
[23:10] <phix> Slimmy_: You do know there is a Ubuntu version for phones right?
[23:10] <Slimmy_> phix: no?
[23:10] <Slimmy_> phix: Man send me link. I love you
[23:11] <phix> Slimmy_: http://www.ubuntu.com/phone
[23:11] <Slimmy_> phix: is it available for every device?
[23:11] <x__> Slimmy: Subscribe ubuntu's page on facebook or something, that's not a new at all
[23:12] <Slimmy_> x___: last year i would follow the news but this year school too hard. I cant focus on anything else. But now that i have a week holiday i will burn my pc
[23:12] <phix> Slimmy_: No idea, I just know it was supposed to be released this time last year
[23:13] <Slimmy_> phix: I think its like firefox OS
[23:13] <ikonia> Slimmy_: you appear to be struggling with the basics of the desktop, the phones have much more limited device support, so I would not be looking at that at this time
[23:13] <Slimmy_> phix: for very particular devices made with such OS built in
[23:14] <phix> ikonia: Hey pal, where is the download link for Ubuntu on phone
[23:14] <ikonia> there isn't one
[23:14] <ikonia> it's not that simple
[23:14] <ikonia> !phone
[23:14] <x__> phix: I'm not sure when exactly it was released. Probably I'm just confused about the new
[23:14] <ikonia> read that
[23:14] <phix> ikonia: thnx
[23:15] <Jonatha7> .
[23:15] <Slimmy_> phix: http://developer.ubuntu.com/start/ubuntu-for-devices/devices/
[23:17] <Slimmy_> ikonia: Do you know how could i possibly stream those drivers to another android device though?
[23:17] <ikonia> stream those drivers ?
[23:17] <Slimmy_> ikonia: Heaphone drivers
[23:17] <ikonia> what are you talking about ?
[23:18] <ikonia> what drivers ? what do you mean by "stream those drivers" ?
[23:18] <ikonia> you need to explain your whole issue
[23:18] <phix> I have a Nexus One and a Samsing Galaxy 4 mini
[23:18] <Slimmy_> phix: my gf got s4 mini. Its quite cool ^^ i got gt s5300
[23:19] <phix> ikonia: Slimmy_ thinks he can copy his linux modules to his android device since they both run Linux
[23:19] <ikonia> "no" thats not going to work
[23:19] <Slimmy_> ikonia: Nokia headphones play well so i thought that i could somehow make it work on my phone too
[23:19] <Slimmy_> while on same PC in windows sound is corrupted
[23:20] <ikonia> headphones are just dumb devices normally
[23:20] <ikonia> no "drivers" are required
[23:20] <quidnunc> What should "mount" report as "/" in a chroot?
[23:20] <ikonia> a disk
[23:20] <quidnunc> the "host" device?
[23:20] <mindrape> yes.
[23:20] <Slimmy_> ikonia: Ik but how to make sound not sound corrupted? Thats the topic
[23:20] <ikonia> it shouldn't be aware of the host device as it will take it's info from "proc"
[23:21] <ikonia> Slimmy_: is it just with those devices, or sound in general
[23:21] <quidnunc> ikonia: Wait, does it report the host device or not?
[23:21] <ikonia> quidnunc: it will report what you set it to in /proc
[23:21] <ikonia> it depends how you are presenting the device and where it's reading info from
[23:22] <w23rdst> deftykins, are you in here? i need your help bro.
[23:22] <ikonia> !grub2 > quidnunc
[23:22] <quidnunc> ikonia: Yeah, I read both of those
[23:22] <quidnunc> (even prior to when you sent them the first time)
[23:22] <ikonia> quidnunc: so they should walk you through it very clearly
[23:22] <Slimmy_> ikonia: Sound in windows with these headphones is corrupted. In linux it is awesome while im using the same PC. So isnt it an issue related to drivers? How to make heaphones play fine on Android too then? Thanks a lot for all ur time
[23:22] <quidnunc> ikonia: They are clear, but it isn't working for me
[23:23] <ikonia> Slimmy_: I have to stop helping you as you don't respond to the information I give you
[23:23] <ikonia> quidnunc: device "not working"
[23:24] <ikonia> define not working sorry
[23:24] <Slimmy_> ikonia: i just told u what u asked... what more can i say? You can clearly see im not experienced and got a lot of studyin to do on this that im willing to do. Till then i need some help on some issues
[23:24] <quidnunc> ikonia: /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?)
[23:24] <ikonia> Slimmy_: is it just those headphones or all other audio devices
[23:25] <Slimmy_> ikonia: Those specific Nokia headphones
[23:25] <ikonia> Slimmy_: have you tried other headphones
[23:25] <ikonia> quidnunc: pastebin the output of "mount" please
[23:25] <R13ose> How do I connect to my brother printer settings in my browser?  Right now in the test page I printed, the IP Address says initializing.
[23:25] <Slimmy_> ikonia: Yes. All other are playing well.
[23:25] <ikonia> Slimmy_: ok, so you know it's those headphones, are they connected by cable or bluetooth or wifi ?
[23:26] <quidnunc> ikonia: In or outside of the chroot?
[23:26] <ikonia> quidnunc: both please
[23:26] <Slimmy_> ikonia: cable
[23:26] <ikonia> Slimmy_: so there is probably some sort of audio processor/device between the cable and the ear section of the headphones.
[23:26] <ikonia> Slimmy_: you need to find out what that is, and what is needed to support it
[23:27] <Slimmy_> ikonia: how can i check this?
[23:27] <ikonia> research
[23:28] <ikonia> Slimmy_: are they usb headphones ?
[23:28] <ikonia> or just a standard jack socket
[23:28] <Slimmy_> ikonia: Nope.
[23:28] <quidnunc> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9403495/
[23:28] <rosaecaeruleae> whats the channel name for xserver?
[23:28] <ikonia> btfs file system....
[23:28] <ikonia> thats not standard in ubuntu
[23:29] <ikonia> chrootdownloader ??? what is a chrootdownloader ?
[23:30] <SchrodingersScat> debootstrap?
[23:30] <quidnunc> ikonia: It's just a typo, it should just be chroot
[23:31] <ikonia> quidnunc: how are you using btrfs ?
[23:31] <ikonia> thats not standard in ubuntu
[23:31] <ikonia> quidnunc: look at your chroot - /dev/sda1 is root inside and outside the chroot - that is not correct
[23:31] <quidnunc> ikonia: I know!
[23:31] <quidnunc> ikonia: Which is why I was asking the question earlier
[23:31] <ikonia> quidnunc: how are you using btrfs ?
[23:32] <ikonia> thats not standard in ubuntu
[23:32] <quidnunc> ikonia: I selected it during partitioning. It's not default but you can do it
[23:32] <ikonia> it's actually offered as an option now in the 14.04 installer ?
[23:32] <bekks> ikonia: Yes.
[23:32] <quidnunc> ikonia: I don't know, this was some time ago
[23:32] <ikonia> wow
[23:34] <quidnunc> anyway I suspect that btrfs is not the reason the mounts are wrong
[23:34] <ikonia> no, proc is
[23:35] <quidnunc> ikonia: I was supposed to bind mount proc, correct?
[23:35] <ikonia> quidnunc: what did the document say ?
[23:35] <Slimmy> ikonia: Umm whenever you got time pal. Sorry if im pressuring you
[23:35] <ikonia> Slimmy: time for what ?
[23:35] <Slimmy> ikonia: To answer
[23:35] <ikonia> Slimmy: answer what ?
[23:36] <Slimmy> ikonia: You asked me if they were usb headphones and i told u no
[23:36] <ikonia> Slimmy: and ?
[23:36] <streulma> hello on Mac, is it TC0P that needs to be monitored with macfanctld ?
[23:36] <Slimmy> ikonia: Then nothing. U stopped responding and i saw you were busy so i didnt tell anything
[23:36] <ikonia> Slimmy: I've nothing more to say, I've told you to research if/what audio device is in the headphones
[23:36] <Slimmy> ikonia: I asked how
[23:37] <ikonia> Slimmy: read the internet, read the nokia web page, email nokia ?
[23:37] <ikonia> apply some logic
[23:37] <streulma> ikonia ? do you know ?
[23:37] <ikonia> streulma: know what ?
[23:38] <streulma> ikonia: - repeat - hello on Mac, is it TC0P that needs to be monitored with macfanctld ?
[23:38] <ikonia> streulma: no idea
[23:39] <Slimmy> streulma: https://bugs.launchpad.net/macfanctld/+bug/1092970
[23:39] <ikonia> Slimmy: that wasn't his question
[23:39] <Slimmy> ikonia: my mac friend told me that its somehow related
[23:41] <quidnunc> ikonia: Yes, it said to bindmount
[23:42] <quidnunc> ikonia: Step 10, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing
[23:43] <ab_> ab
[23:43] <Baube> Hey guys, I tried to install Ubuntu in dual boot with my Windows... On a 3rd Partition, but I was distracted and press the 'Full disk, erase it' mode. (doesn't seems to format or whatev, cuz it took 1 sec to go to next step) then I couldn't go back, so I shutdown... Now I've got now more Bootloader and I seem to have Linux partitions...
[23:44] <Baube> Windows Recovery mode is telling me : "This version of System Recovery Options is not compatible with the version of Windows..." cuz it appears I have no more Windows, but Linux.
[23:44] <EriC^^> Baube: it probably deleted the partitions and made ext4 partitions and a swap one, that doesn't require much time
[23:45] <EriC^^> Baube: yeah i think the partitions are toast
[23:45] <EriC^^> Baube: don't use the disk anymore, boot a live usb and try to recover the partitions using testdisk
[23:46] <EriC^^> Baube: the data is still there, just to be clear, it's recoverable
[23:46] <ikonia> quidnunc: and you did that exactly the same from outside the chroot ?
[23:46] <geirha> technically, the partitions are still there, it's only the partition table that's changed
[23:46] <Baube> Ok, that's what I read. I'll try that. The goal of using testdisk will be to copy my data, which I should be able to see and copy?
[23:46] <Baube> Can I just repair that table ?
[23:46] <quidnunc> ikonia: I changed the location to the directory of my mounted partition, otherwise it was copy/[paste]
[23:46] <EriC^^> Baube: yeah you can restore the partition table and hopefully everything is still there, you can view the files before restoring whatever partitions you choose to restore
[23:47] <ikonia> quidnunc: you're mounting it on /tmp I assume ?
[23:47] <EriC^^> Baube: if you want you can copy any important data to another ext hdd or so too
[23:48] <Baube> but what I see from a live linux, is the linux partitions on my HDD
[23:48] <EriC^^> Baube: yeah, in testdisk you can view the files and copy any files you want, or restore the partitions
[23:49] <Baube> Ok, trying it as we speak.
[23:49] <quidnunc> ikonia: yes
[23:50] <quidnunc> ikonia: /tmp/samsungevo
[23:50] <ikonia> quidnunc: and what is the grub command you run ?
[23:51] <quidnunc> ikonia: update-grub in the chroot
[23:51] <ikonia> thats not going to work
[23:51] <ikonia> that's updating an existing grub
[23:51] <ikonia> well....
[23:52] <ikonia> where is the grub boot loader installed ?
[23:52] <quidnunc> ikonia: Outside of the chroot I did: sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/tmp/samsungevo/@/boot/ /dev/sdc
[23:52] <quidnunc> ikonia: Right now on every disk
[23:53] <ikonia> quidnunc: why did you not do grub-install in the chroot as the guide suggested
[23:53] <quidnunc> ikonia: because "grub-install: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?)."
[23:55] <EriC^^> quidnunc:for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[23:55] <ikonia> guest92384: if you do ls -la /dev/sdc in your chroot what do you get ?
[23:55] <EriC^^> quidnunc: nevermind
[23:56] <quidnunc> ikonia: brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 32 Dec  6 15:54 /dev/sdc
[23:57] <ikonia> quidnunc: and the same for /dev/sda and /dev/sda1 please.
[23:57] <EuaD> currently i run mythtv which runs apache2, what do i have to do to host a media file on a basic page?
[23:57] <ikonia> EuaD: dump it in the document root