| LinuxGold | what is the best alternative to audacity? | 01:31 |
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| LinuxGold | I'm trying to set up a good laptop for my son who plays piano -- a real piano, not electronic stuff | 01:35 |
| LinuxGold | trying to find a very good software running on Ubuntu | 01:36 |
| LinuxGold | He is currently using console piano | 01:39 |
| Unit193 | Well, for one, what's wrong with Audacity? There's also Ardour and others, could search the repo for whatever exactly you need, or checkout a site such as http://alternativeto.net/software/audacity/?platform=linux | 01:43 |
| LinuxGold | trying to find the best. if audacity is the best software to use, then fine, so be it :) | 02:06 |
| studio_ | i seem to have yoshima working ...now how can i play a midifile and hear and edit it? | 14:43 |
| Drabuntu | hallo ich spreche Deutsch. | 15:19 |
| studio_ | still trying to get sound from ardour | 16:55 |
| holstein | studio_: it'll be *just* like getting sound from yoshimi | 16:55 |
| holstein | the issue is, you are diving into midi | 16:56 |
| holstein | studio_: what do i suggest? take things in steps.. and slowly | 16:56 |
| studio_ | thats what i thought but it doesnt work | 16:56 |
| holstein | studio_: open yoshimi, as i described before, and make certain audio is working | 16:56 |
| holstein | studio_: then, open ardour, import a *known* good audio track, and route that | 16:56 |
| studio_ | its ok for wav files but not for midi | 16:56 |
| holstein | *then* move on to midi | 16:56 |
| holstein | studio_: so, you are having more specific issue with ardour then, not "you cant get audio from ardour" | 16:57 |
| holstein | studio_: there is, in qjackctl, in "connect", a midi tab as well | 16:57 |
| holstein | studio_: you can do advanced midi routing there.. | 16:57 |
| studio_ | its specific to getting midi sound yes | 16:57 |
| holstein | but, i suggest *not* starting with ardour for midi | 16:57 |
| holstein | studio_: this is the way it would work | 16:58 |
| studio_ | ive already got it going in muse | 16:58 |
| studio_ | and qtractor | 16:58 |
| holstein | studio_: open something like yoshimi, or a midi soune player.. route the audio.. then, create a midi track in ardour, and route the midi | 16:58 |
| holstein | studio_: its the *same* in ardour, its just not automatically connecting | 16:58 |
| studio_ | ok ill try again | 16:59 |
| holstein | you can try #opensourcemusicians and/or #ardour | 17:00 |
| holstein | studio_: the ardour manual will be quite helpful as well | 17:00 |
| holstein | studio_: you can also use *any* of those other applicaions for your midi with ardour for your audio | 17:01 |
| holstein | studio_: you can use qtractor *instead* of ardour, or, with ardour | 17:01 |
| Drabuntu | richt jemand deutsch? | 17:02 |
| Drabuntu | Spricht jemand deutsch? | 17:03 |
| holstein | !de | 17:03 |
| ubottu | In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis! | 17:03 |
| Drabuntu | Also meine Frage für die Deutschen: Hallo, wie kann ich die Ubuntustudio CD/DVD von HDD aus so steuern das eine Installation nicht möglich ist? | 17:06 |
| studio_ | will i have to make all these seperate connections EVERYTime i need to work with sound in linux | 17:07 |
| holstein | !de | Drabuntu | 17:08 |
| ubottu | Drabuntu: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis! | 17:08 |
| holstein | !restricted | Drabuntu | 17:08 |
| ubottu | Drabuntu: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/media.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats | 17:08 |
| holstein | studio_: there are connection managers.. there are *many* ways to do it | 17:08 |
| Drabuntu | Ich dachte eher an Kickstarterdateien oder was ähnliches!! | 17:09 |
| holstein | Drabuntu: please try the german channel | 17:09 |
| studio_ | seems so time consuming compared to windows.... | 17:12 |
| studio_ | it suggests that linux sound needs a complete rethink from the ground up | 17:13 |
| holstein | studio_: *all* the software you are used to, and want, from windows.. can be made for linux | 17:14 |
| holstein | studio_: invite them to make it for you.. but, they may not | 17:14 |
| holstein | studio_: the positive thing about the linux work flow is, *all* the items *can* be connected.. | 17:14 |
| holstein | no one is benefiting commercially from locking anything down | 17:15 |
| holstein | studio_: from the ground up, its just that simple | 17:15 |
| holstein | jack, is open.. *anyone* can write for jack.. when they do, you can connect the items | 17:15 |
| holstein | if i want to, for example, stream my insrument to the internet, while running through software effects, while tracking wet and dry tracks to ardour, while in sync, live, with a drum machine, or prerecorded track from *any* other appplication, while mixing in something from a hardware midi module, i can do that | 17:16 |
| holstein | no doubt, that can be done in windows/OSX, but, you must, as you mention, starta from the ground up, and purchase with that integration in mind | 17:17 |
| holstein | studio_: no doubt, this takes an investment.. an investment of time.. and, there is no company that provides you support for your hardware | 17:17 |
| holstein | i feel that i spend a signifigant amount of time re-learning audio production when i moved to linux.. like, realistically, 8 months or more | 17:18 |
| holstein | was it worth it? to me, yes.. you only know if that is worth it to you | 17:18 |
| studio_ | do you need to use these systems for you livelyhood | 17:19 |
| holstein | linux is, realistically, not "good" or "better".. its just different.. and it either fits your needs or not.. i personally prefer it.. and, its avialable for *anyone* | 17:19 |
| holstein | studio_: are you asking if i use linux professionally? | 17:19 |
| studio_ | yes | 17:20 |
| holstein | i use linux exclusively | 17:20 |
| holstein | but, there was a learning curve | 17:20 |
| studio_ | as part of you everyday job...ie music production | 17:20 |
| holstein | studio_: as i said, friend.. i use it *exclusively* | 17:20 |
| holstein | job.. personal.. *everywhere* | 17:20 |
| holstein | windows doesnt work for my needs/wants anymore.. i feel just as you do now when i try and use windows or osx | 17:21 |
| studio_ | do you need your lixux sound system to earn a living | 17:21 |
| holstein | that doesnt mean they are "bad" or dont work | 17:21 |
| holstein | studio_: i *only* use linux, friend | 17:22 |
| holstein | studio_: in my audio production, i use linux.. i use *nothing* else | 17:22 |
| holstein | studio_: if you are asking if i make money from that, i do | 17:22 |
| studio_ | what do u produce | 17:22 |
| holstein | studio_: its not my only source of income.. i mostly play music for a living | 17:23 |
| holstein | studio_: but, i do whatever im hired for | 17:23 |
| studio_ | as i do | 17:23 |
| holstein | http://www.freejazzblog.org/2014/07/shane-perlowin-jacob-wick-objet.html for example | 17:23 |
| holstein | something i mixed but didnt track http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/spork1 | 17:23 |
| holstein | my personal projects http://holsteinmusic.com/ | 17:24 |
| holstein | demo stuff http://byronhedgepeth.mikeholstein.info/ | 17:24 |
| holstein | etc.. | 17:24 |
| holstein | linux audio is *all* open, and if someone wanted to "rework it" from the ground up, they are welcome to | 17:27 |
| holstein | studio_: i do not do much midi production.. and this channel is mostly empty | 17:27 |
| holstein | studio_: i suggested, and still suggest asking in #opensourcemusicians | 17:27 |
| holstein | ffrom there, you will meet users who do what yo are trying to do | 17:28 |
| studio_ | ok thanks | 17:28 |
| holstein | think about how long you used windows before doing any audio production.. and how slowly you crept into the work flow | 17:29 |
| holstein | you are re-learning a lot all at once | 17:30 |
| studio_ | yes i think so ...thanks for your help | 17:32 |
| holstein | what i did was, i actualy stopped my migration | 17:33 |
| holstein | i then loaded linux *only* on a laptop,a nd used that daily.. trying to solve any issues i ran into | 17:33 |
| holstein | copying data on usb sticks.. ripping audio from cd's.. whatever i needed to do, i tried to do it *only* in linux | 17:33 |
| holstein | i did that for a year or more.. *then*, when it came to migrating the studio, i wasnt learning the OS as well | 17:34 |
| holstein | for example, if i gave you an OSX machine and protools, you would be having similar "growing pains" | 17:34 |
| studio_ | thats what i have done over the last year....but as i have stared teaching guitar again i now need to get going with my backing tracks and other thing ...i am running out of time | 17:35 |
| holstein | no doubt, that is considered the industry standard, and if you paid the 3 grand investment that takes, you'd make *sure* you learned it | 17:36 |
| holstein | studio_: "Time" is what it takes | 17:36 |
| studio_ | yes i see | 17:36 |
| holstein | i mean, you can make it happen.. but, its up to you | 17:36 |
| holstein | there is no "linux" or "ubuntustudio" making sure you are happy with the product you bought.. just you and me, and the rest of the community | 17:37 |
| studio_ | im more than happy with the general linux such as the web browsing updating and everything its just the sound side thats so time consuming and problematic | 17:39 |
| holstein | i suggest finding someone doing *exactly* what you are doing | 17:40 |
| studio_ | yes i will ok thanks | 17:41 |
| holstein | that channel i suggested a few time, #opensourcemusicians , really helped me find that person | 17:41 |
| holstein | this channel is mostly quiet | 17:41 |
| studio_ | ok i check it out | 17:42 |
| holstein | you cant join this channel and expect an answer quickly | 17:42 |
| studio_ | ok | 17:42 |
| Ivan1022 | hey all | 18:48 |
| holstein | o/ | 18:49 |
| Ivan1022 | anyone know how to unpack the tracktion demo songs? | 18:49 |
| Ivan1022 | they're in like a .trkarch file extension | 18:49 |
| holstein | unpack? is it a tar? | 18:49 |
| Ivan1022 | no | 18:49 |
| holstein | Ivan1022: where are you getting what from? | 18:49 |
| Ivan1022 | they are tracktion demo song downloads from www.tracktion.com | 18:50 |
| holstein | Ivan1022: how do they say you are to use them? | 18:50 |
| Ivan1022 | tracktion is a DAW | 18:50 |
| Ivan1022 | it's prob some sort of .zip format that only windoes can extract | 18:50 |
| Ivan1022 | *window | 18:50 |
| holstein | Ivan1022: its not zip,correct? | 18:51 |
| holstein | you can right click on a zip | 18:51 |
| holstein | i think we are assuming many things here.. what did you get? | 18:51 |
| Ivan1022 | I tried opening it with archive manager and get an error | 18:51 |
| holstein | and where from? http://www.tracktion.com/downloads | 18:51 |
| Ivan1022 | you know what... I wonder if I can drag it to the program and if it will extract it that way | 18:52 |
| holstein | Ivan1022: probably not "extract" it at all | 18:52 |
| holstein | its probably a session file, for the DAW | 18:52 |
| holstein | i would just try opening the file in the DAW | 18:52 |
| Ivan1022 | that did it... Ic an't believe I didnt think of it until now.... | 18:53 |
| Ivan1022 | thanks | 18:53 |
| deak | 10 things to do b4 udie | 21:41 |
| deak | Understand jackd | 21:42 |
| holstein | i learned a lot by experiementing with the settings in a live enviroment | 21:44 |
| holstein | at that time, i used the 64studio live cd, which didnt have an installer.. it was a different time | 21:45 |
| deak | Yea just have to play with it | 21:45 |
| holstein | but, for me, and i think for most, the freedome to be able to configure *everything* with the ease of reverting is key | 21:45 |
| deak | Your talking to studio_ holstein ive swaped nicknames | 21:46 |
| deak | Im getting there slowly | 21:47 |
| deak | Just some tweaking of the midi settings and im home and dry | 21:52 |
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