[05:40] <Kilos> hi juned 
[05:40] <Kilos> welcome to ubuntu-za
[05:42] <Kilos> !help
[05:42] <Kilos> hehe
[08:45] <ThatGraemeGuy> I think my media pc is about to die completely
[08:45] <Kilos> oi
[08:45] <ThatGraemeGuy> too many eskom-powered restarts
[08:45] <Kilos> yip ive always said it ruins drives
[08:46] <ThatGraemeGuy> my fault, I should've known to power it off
[08:46] <ThatGraemeGuy> and I haven't got 3TB handy to copy everything off to
[08:46] <Kilos> whew
[10:12] <gremble> Good morning
[10:22] <somaunn> Hi Guys
[10:23] <Squirm> morning all
[11:43] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn 
[11:44] <nlsthzn> alo :)
[12:10] <theblazehen> hi
[12:40] <Kilos> hi theblazehen SmilyBorg 
[12:48] <theblazehen> Hi Kilos 
[13:22] <digigram> hey all
[13:23] <digigram> anyone around on this lovely Sunday afternoon to help me fix my graphics (intel HD i3) on 14.10 that I screwed up all by my self? (preferably without a format lol)
[13:27] <theblazehen> digigram: apt-get reinstall?
[13:27] <digigram> theblazehen, reinstall what?
[13:29] <Kilos> hi digigram 
[13:29] <digigram> what happened is I had issues with WebGL, so went on a stupid spree and tried to install incompatible drivers
[13:29] <digigram> wow Kilos still around!
[13:29] <Kilos> lol always
[13:29] <Kilos> was outside in the sun a bit
[13:29] <digigram> problem is, can't remember what I installed, maybe let me look at history | grep install quick
[13:31] <theblazehen> digigram: should do everything
[13:31] <theblazehen> Hmm..
[13:31] <theblazehen> Switch to arch? A lot easier :p
[13:32] <digigram> lol I should actually try it one day
[13:33] <theblazehen> Arch its just pacman -S xf86-video-intel
[13:33] <Kilos> hi Merl1n 
[13:33] <Kilos> welcome to ubuntu-za
[13:34] <Kilos> hmm...
[13:34] <digigram> I think where my issue came in, was I got the 14.04 intel driver and if I remember correctly, forced it to install
[13:34] <Kilos> then just remove it man
[13:35] <digigram> I want to, but not sure how
[13:35] <Kilos> find the package name first
[13:36] <Kilos> then use aptitude remove or aptitude purge package
[13:36] <digigram> finding the package name is the part I have difficulty in
[13:36] <Kilos> why did you use the 14.04  package
[13:36] <Kilos> have you got synaptic installed
[13:37] <digigram> no I use apt
[13:37] <Kilos> the you can see what stuff is installed 
[13:39] <digigram> okay, and how would I know if I'm uninstalling the correct one (that needs to stay) or the wrong one (that needs to go)
[13:39] <Kilos> you type in at the top of synaptic ati and it will show all installed packages
[13:40] <Kilos> oh intel
[13:40] <digigram> just installing synaptic. Its the first time I run a Debian derivitive without using synaptic lol
[13:40] <Kilos> it also has an option to fix broken
[13:41] <Kilos> i like synaptic
[13:42] <Kilos> also you should have typed in additional in the dash and it will show the correct packages and install them from there too
[13:44] <digigram> additional drivers had nothing, thats why I tried to be "smart" and then make a mess lol
[13:45] <Kilos> ah
[13:46] <Kilos> synaptic will give the option to completely remove or just remove
[13:46] <Kilos> i wonder if there is an intel package like nvidia-current
[13:47] <digigram> doesn't seem like it
[13:49] <Kilos> maybe intel-gpu-tools can help
[13:50] <Kilos> otherwise just stick with the standard install
[13:52] <digigram> can't figure out how gpu-tools can help
[13:52] <digigram> and intel-linux-graphics-installer will only work up to 11.04 until they release the new driver
[13:52] <Kilos> ai!
[13:54] <digigram> guess I'll sit with slow graphics until then lol
[13:54] <Kilos> what pc is it? maybe google will find something or a bug report might enlighten us
[13:55] <digigram> Acer i3 laptop. But no, it worked perfectly (sans webGL though) until I messed about
[13:56] <Kilos> what is it doing now
[13:56] <Kilos> just slow or something broken
[13:57] <Kilos> i go fetch sheep
[16:40] <Kilos> afternoon peeps. we just did our bit for load shedding
[16:47] <theblazehen> h iK
[16:47] <theblazehen> hi Kilos
[16:47] <Kilos> lol
[16:47]  * theblazehen hardly ever gets load shedding :)
[16:47] <Kilos> lucky
[16:48] <theblazehen> last was >6 months ago :)
[16:48] <Kilos> weve had 2 hours a day for about a week now
[16:48] <theblazehen> ouch
[16:48] <Kilos> and 4 hours yesterday
[16:49] <theblazehen> wow..
[16:51] <Symmetria> so like
[16:51] <Symmetria> I got married 
[16:51] <Symmetria> ;p
[16:51] <Kilos> congrats Symmetria 
[16:52] <Kilos> now dont start slacking
[16:52] <theblazehen> congrats Symmetria!
[16:54] <Symmetria> https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10152696347705528.1073741832.554265527&type=1&l=f8efaaedc0
[16:54] <Symmetria> traditional kenyan wedding :) those are the photos
[17:02] <Kilos> hmm...
[17:02] <Kilos> now storm decides i need more power off time
[17:26] <gremble> o/
[17:30] <theblazehen> hi gremble
[17:30] <theblazehen> You fix ibid?
[17:31] <gremble> Nope. Spent most of the day sleeping or without electricity
[17:32] <theblazehen> ah
[17:32] <gremble> You?
[17:33] <theblazehen> not doing much, so no progress
[17:41] <Kilos> hmm...
[17:42] <theblazehen> Kilos: hmm?
[17:42] <Kilos> todays power offs killed my elementaryos drive
[17:42] <Kilos> read error whan trying to boot
[17:43] <Kilos> luckily running boot-repair from kde fixed it again
[17:43] <Kilos> grrrr
[17:44] <Kilos> power off ones when drives dont get to dock or whatever they call it is not good
[17:45] <Kilos> off/on
[17:49] <Kilos> hey theblazehen  when you going to add your testimonial 
[17:49] <Kilos> they need to see we getting in new bloods i think
[17:49] <theblazehen> Kilos: now is a good a time as any I guess, got a link?
[17:49] <Kilos> Maaz  re-verification
[17:49] <Maaz> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/ReVerificationApplication2014
[17:51] <theblazehen> ty
[17:52] <Kilos> ty gremble
[17:53] <Kilos> now i got a week to rev magespawn and some of the old hands here too
[17:53] <Kilos> nlsthzn  we getting there
[17:54] <theblazehen> How do I add it? Do I need a account?
[17:55] <Kilos> um do you see edit at the top left
[17:56] <Kilos> if not look in more actions for edit, if nothing get a launchpad account then youll be able to 
[17:58] <theblazehen> ya, will need account
[17:58] <Kilos> i think gremble  also had to get one yesterday
[17:58] <Kilos> i battled for weeks to found out how to edit
[17:59] <theblazehen> ah
[17:59] <Kilos> once your browser remembers you at launchpad then it logs you in automatically when you can edit easy
[17:59] <theblazehen> ya
[18:05] <nlsthzn> would be awesome if all the peeps that hangout here and use the mailing list made launchpad accounts and joined the ubuntu-za launchpad group - only official number we have on how many people the loco has in a sense
[18:06] <Kilos> ask the list peeps to do that nlsthzn  
[18:06] <Kilos> ill nag here
[18:07] <nlsthzn> :) I am now taking a quick shower and sleep for training tomorrow,  should be home earlier than normal, will look to write a request then :)
[18:07] <nlsthzn> night all
[18:08] <Kilos> cool ty nlsthzn  
[18:09] <Kilos> sleep tight lad
[18:13] <Kilos> ha digigram  you still here, were you successful
[18:14] <digigram> Will see when I can restart later Kilos
[18:14] <Kilos> good luck
[18:14] <digigram> thanx
[18:14] <digigram> if nothing else, I'll just wait for the drivers. Supposed to be released somewhere in Dec
[18:15] <Kilos> you on unity hey?
[18:15] <Kilos> this december?
[18:15] <digigram> I heard from a little birdy this December lol
[18:15] <digigram> pretty sure this is unity
[18:15] <Kilos> maybe reinstall lightdm just for luck
[18:16] <Kilos> you got the launcher panel on the left?
[18:16] <Kilos> and purple background
[18:17] <digigram> yip. Decided to try it, used Mint with both Cinnamon and Mate for a long time now
[18:18] <Kilos> and dont forget to come support us in 9 days time when we apply for revalidation as an official loco
[18:18] <Kilos> unity isnt bad , just a bit heavy
[18:19] <Kilos> bit lighter that kubuntu thpugh
[18:19] <Kilos> but kubuntu is more stable imo
[18:19] <Kilos> or stronger
[18:21] <digigram> KDE overall is better for me, but to heavy for my laptop. Next install I might go back to Cinnamon (or just install that here)
[18:22] <Kilos> oh ya you can do that and choose on booting
[18:26] <digigram> might do that, but I'm trying to get used to Unity, no sense in dumping good stuff just because it's "different"
[18:28] <theblazehen> digigram: You're implying unity is good?
[18:29] <digigram> theblazehen, I'm saying I haven't been able to find the good yet, but maybe it's just because I like it to work in another way...
[18:29] <theblazehen> digigram: I dunno of anyone who has found the good in unity..
[18:29] <digigram> lol theblazehen I'm sure the dev's like it
[18:29] <digigram> even if it is just them
[18:31] <theblazehen> "face not even a mother could love" I think that applies here?
[18:33] <gremble> Lolunity
[19:04] <digigram> Kilos, something worked it seems. The lagging is gone and even OpenSCAD loads my models again
[19:04] <digigram> thanx
[19:44] <Kilos> unity is nice man
[19:45] <Kilos> when it works well its great
[19:45] <Kilos> im glad for you digigram  
[19:45] <Kilos> now dont forget us hey
[19:46] <Kilos> especially the meet
[19:46] <Kilos> hi gremble
[19:46] <Kilos> oh digigram  one day look at elementaryos
[19:46] <Kilos> based on 12.04 and very fast
[19:46] <Kilos> looks like a mac they say
[19:47] <Kilos> whats news gremble  
[19:47] <digigram> lol Kilos I'll try not to forget you guys :D. Will definitely add my testimony, but with my work schedule, meets are out of the question lol
[19:47] <Kilos> at 10pm at night the meet digigram  
[19:48] <Kilos> we meet here after 9 then go to the official okes
[19:48] <digigram> I've tried elementary. It's nice, but I wanted to come back to basics
[19:48] <Kilos> lol
[19:48] <digigram> when is that?
[19:48] <Kilos> im learning elementary now
[19:48] <Kilos> but still have a drive with unity on and one with kde
[19:48] <Kilos> on the 16th
[19:49] <Kilos> oh and ive got xubuntu somewhere too
[19:49] <Kilos> im not keen on x so much
[19:50] <Kilos> oh digigram  when that driver comes out use aptitude to install it.
[19:51] <Kilos> aptitude tells you if something aint good and gives options
[19:51] <Kilos> also removes stuff that isnt needed 
[19:52] <Kilos> ohi superfly  inet
[19:52] <digigram> you can only install the driver with intel's tool. Now that stops you if it's wrong, but if I remember correctly, I did something "smart" to bypass that lol
[19:52] <Kilos> ai!
[19:52] <Kilos> Maaz  seen inetpro
[19:52] <Maaz> Kilos: inetpro was last seen 23 hours, 12 minutes and 41 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2014-12-06 12:39:46 PST], and has been offline on freenode since 2014-12-07 06:19:41 PST
[19:52] <gremble> Lol hey Kilos :P
[19:52] <Kilos> oh my the govt crashed again
[19:52] <gremble> Nothing much. Learning logic and watching Eddie Izzard
[19:53] <Kilos> lol
[19:53] <digigram> I don't like XDE either
[19:53] <gremble> xde?
[19:53] <gremble> what be dis?
[19:53] <Kilos> i just watched something on mnet, dunno the name but it was good
[19:53] <superfly> hi Kilos
[19:53] <Kilos> xfce
[19:53] <digigram> lol xfce yes
[19:53] <gremble> dstv is probably the largest scam in South Africa
[19:53] <digigram> jelly brains here
[19:54] <gremble> Behind that car pyramid scheme that collapsed
[19:54] <digigram> jack ryan: shadow recruit Kilos?
[19:54] <Kilos> we only got old mnet decoder
[19:54] <Kilos> ya that
[19:55] <Kilos> lemme see if i can find what the pro broke
[19:56] <Kilos> superfly  please try make it for the re-validation meet
[19:57] <Kilos> and if you got 5 mins anytime in the next week look at the page
[19:58] <superfly> kk
[19:58] <superfly> when is the meeting?
[19:59] <Kilos> on the 16th superfly  at 22.00
[19:59] <Kilos> Maaz  re-validation
[19:59] <Maaz> Kilos: Huh?
[20:00] <Kilos> ai!
[20:00] <Kilos> now i forgot again
[20:00] <Kilos> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/ReVerificationApplication2014
[20:01] <Kilos> loadshedding has got the pro in its cold grip
[20:02] <superfly> the lights just came back on here.
[20:02] <superfly> been out since 8
[20:03] <Kilos> wb inetpro  
[20:03] <Kilos> bad news
[20:04] <Kilos> they said on the news they have enough water and diesel for the next 3 days
[20:04] <Kilos> i dont understand that but ya
[20:05] <Kilos> shell and bp and all the other refineries have tons of diesel and the dams got spanne water
[20:05] <inetpro> good evening
[20:06] <inetpro> sorry Kilos, we're load shedding our servers now :-)
[20:06] <Kilos> thats strange
[20:07] <Kilos> now you big okes here decide on a time for our meet here before going to ubuntu-meeting
[20:07] <Kilos> i suggest 21.30
[20:11] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy  late night?
[20:14] <ThatGraemeGuy> 'lo
[20:14] <ThatGraemeGuy> yes doing an O/S upgrade for a client
[20:15] <Kilos> aha
[20:16] <digigram> kilos they use PetroSA diesel.... and they are slooooow
[20:18] <Kilos> there is no excuse for running out of diesel
[20:18] <Kilos> they should keep at least a weeks supply on hand at anytime
[20:19] <Kilos> and water. joe
[20:20] <Kilos> sjoe as well
[20:22] <Kilos> ok peeps i go crash now. sleep tight. see ya tomorrow
[20:30] <theblazehen> inetpro: ouch.. I assume you have enough backup power?