| Joscha | Is this a good Chanel to ask things about FFado, Jack, Pulseaudio and so on? I have no experiance and try to connect my Saffire pro 40 . | 03:11 |
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| holstein | Joscha: sure | 03:17 |
| holstein | Joscha: you can also try #opensourcemusicians | 03:17 |
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| holstein | it *should be as simple as, open qjackctl, or jack control.. have the firewire device plugged in, and i would have *only* that one firewire device plugged in.. open "setup" and select the "Firewire" driver.. save and hit "start" and see that jack starts without fail | 03:18 |
| holstein | if not, then, you go from there, troubleshooting | 03:18 |
| J0scha | Ok. So my Plan is to use my Saffire pro40 as normal audio output for the System and with a daw for musikrecording. I've got the Ffado-mixer to work. I can set levels for all the Faders (testet it with an SPDIF Input, but i wasn't able to get Anything out of my Computer to the Interface. I heard the "normal" Programms are going to Output into a pulseaudio-server? and I need and bridge to get these Signals into Jack and then routing | 03:22 |
| holstein | i can tell you how i do it, and how otherwise do it | 03:23 |
| J0scha | o Idea how to do that. | 03:23 |
| holstein | what do i do? i dont do "casual" audio on my production machine | 03:23 |
| holstein | i actually disable the pulse audio dbus in jack, and i dont do any flash or "normal" audio from the system on my firewire device | 03:24 |
| holstein | what do others do? just launch jack, and route the pulse audio sources using the dbus that is running by default out of the box | 03:24 |
| holstein | you'll see it in "qjackctl" in "connect".. the pulse audio sources can be routed there to your firewire device | 03:24 |
| J0scha | in qjackctl in the Connect dialog there are 2 Outputs (System) and 6 Inputs (System) But these numbers don't refer to my Interface.So i think the System output is the Thing i want to rout into my Interface? | 03:28 |
| holstein | J0scha: nope.. i really dont think so, but, it literally wont hurt to try it | 03:29 |
| holstein | J0scha: are you using 14.04? | 03:29 |
| velho | holstein, good night my friend :D | 03:29 |
| J0scha | using Ubuntu mate 14.10. Should have said that at first. Found This IRC in a Forum. | 03:30 |
| J0scha | But it's a fresh install, so if there are good reasons for a change on ubuntu studio i could do it without loosing configuration, becouse there is no yet | 03:32 |
| holstein | J0scha: i suggest 14.04 for firewire | 03:33 |
| holstein | J0scha: mate doesnt matter.. should work fine in mate | 03:33 |
| holstein | J0scha: but, the 14.04 base might | 03:33 |
| holstein | J0scha: i wouldnt bother changing now.. just try and set it up | 03:34 |
| holstein | J0scha: you are in the audio group? | 03:34 |
| J0scha | I think so. I did sudo usermod -a -G audio with no errorsusername] | 03:35 |
| holstein | J0scha: is jack running without error? | 03:36 |
| J0scha | whoops, writeing is hard... "sudo usermod -a -G audio [username]" | 03:36 |
| holstein | if it is, then, you are probably setup just fine | 03:36 |
| holstein | look in "qjackctl" under setup in the misc tab for the jack dbus make sure that is turned on | 03:36 |
| J0scha | Dbus is activated and i didn t notice any errors? Is there an error log or something? Or would there errors be visibil in a pop up? | 03:39 |
| holstein | J0scha: just try jack, friend | 03:39 |
| holstein | dont overthink it.. route something like yoshimi, and use the virtualkeyboard in the menu to make sound | 03:39 |
| J0scha | wait... typing jack in the terminal resultis in a "The Programm Jack isn't installd...", but my qjackctl is running... Maybe i missd installing Jack. | 03:41 |
| holstein | J0scha: qjackctl is just the gui | 03:41 |
| holstein | when you hit "start" it'll start jackd | 03:41 |
| holstein | "jack" really is not a package | 03:42 |
| J0scha | qjackctl tells me itś working t 48Khz and since 49 minutes and there was no error. Does this mean qjackctl startet a Jack, wich in not installd on the System...? I'm getting confused. | 03:43 |
| holstein | J0scha: JACK is installed, and running | 03:44 |
| holstein | J0scha: you dont need to type jack in a terminal.. ;) | 03:44 |
| J0scha | just tought about some help page and maybe an errorlog. | 03:44 |
| holstein | J0scha: so anyways, you should see, in "connnect" the firewire sources,a nd the pulse system soures.. route them together, and test your sytem audio | 03:44 |
| holstein | J0scha: you dont have any errors, yet, friend | 03:45 |
| holstein | J0scha: you dont need to troubleshoot errors yet :) | 03:45 |
| J0scha | So my Problem is that my Interface obviously doesn't show up in qjackctl | 03:45 |
| holstein | J0scha: why? | 03:47 |
| holstein | J0scha: you state you see it.. route *something* | 03:47 |
| holstein | J0scha: open yoshimi, and try it | 03:47 |
| holstein | J0scha: im assuming you are using the firewire driver, as i said to do before. are you? | 03:47 |
| J0scha | yes. It told me to restart the jackserver. in qjackctl the buttons in the left top corner are the correct ones to restart the server? | 03:49 |
| holstein | there is a "stop" button | 03:50 |
| holstein | you stop it, see that it is configured for the firewire driver, and not the alsa internal audio device, which, is what it seems you were setup for | 03:51 |
| J0scha | Ok, I did this and there is still not 1 in-/output from my interface | 03:52 |
| holstein | J0scha: what makes you say that? | 03:53 |
| holstein | it wont say "the well supported focusrite ins and outs here" | 03:54 |
| holstein | they could be labeled anything.. | 03:54 |
| J0scha | becouse the count doesent fit and the a labeled System | 03:54 |
| holstein | J0scha: please read that sentence, and try again.. | 03:55 |
| J0scha | So i took Yoshimi, connected the apprering Yoshimi Outputs in Jack to all 6 Outputs of the System and turnd all Chaneles up in the FFado Mixer but i still do not hear a sound. | 04:00 |
| J0scha | Is a Reboot needed while installing all these Audiodrivers? | 04:01 |
| cfhowlett | J0scha, shouldn't be but it's possible | 04:02 |
| J0scha | gonna try it | 04:02 |
| holstein | J0scha: you are not installing any drivers | 04:02 |
| holstein | they are baked into the kernel.. its modular | 04:02 |
| holstein | J0scha: i *dont* use the ffado mixer with my firewire hardware | 04:03 |
| holstein | J0scha: you can also try the ubuntustudio 14.04 live iso and see if everything "just magically works" out of the box | 04:03 |
| holstein | J0scha: if it does, you can just insatll ubuntustudio, and add mate to it.. that would be much easier.. assuming the hard part of setting up the audio is already done for you | 04:04 |
| J0scha | Well, i have to lern much more about Linux in general. I need the Mixer for some 0-latency monitoring. | 04:04 |
| J0scha | Allready downloading 14.04 | 04:05 |
| holstein | no you dont | 04:05 |
| holstein | you also *never* get zero latency monitoring | 04:05 |
| holstein | if you mean, you can bypass the unit, and hear live, you shouldnt need the mixer for that either.. | 04:06 |
| holstein | yeah, i found it helpful to spend a year+ using general linux on a laptop as my daily machine | 04:07 |
| J0scha | But at first i'll try the reboot. The Download will take at least 40 mins The Feature is calld like that even if this is not possible. | 04:07 |
| holstein | lol | 04:07 |
| holstein | J0scha: on my unit, i have a knob that fades beteen the system audio from the computer, and what is "live" in the inputs.. *before* the computer | 04:08 |
| holstein | you *can* call that "zero latency" if you want.. but, its not | 04:08 |
| J0scha | I used Linux on my only mashine for 2 Years but it is a few years ago and i was pretty young. (like 12 or so) | 04:08 |
| holstein | i mean, it even takes time for the sound to travel through the air to your ears | 04:09 |
| J0scha | It's near enough for not hearing it while playing drums. Thats enough for me :D | 04:09 |
| holstein | not hearing what? | 04:10 |
| J0scha | Now reboot. Bye | 04:10 |
| J0scha | the latency | 04:10 |
| holstein | J0scha: its analog, thats why | 04:10 |
| holstein | which *still* has latency.. | 04:10 |
| J0scha_ | yes, the reboot made everything is working. Now I just have to get this pulseaudio sound into jack. | 04:19 |
| J0scha_ | also got this working. That you very much for your time! holstein! | 04:20 |
| studio_ | have sorted most of the sound problems with midi....but now after using jack or qsynth i lose all sound in my browser and spotify..anyone know why | 11:26 |
| LightAce | Hello? | 16:33 |
| deak | ive sorted most of the probs with my midi sound output now and have been able to start using midi with audio... | 17:06 |
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| LightAce | anyone not afk? | 20:15 |
| holstein | yes... | 20:18 |
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