[03:11] Is this a good Chanel to ask things about FFado, Jack, Pulseaudio and so on? I have no experiance and try to connect my Saffire pro 40 . [03:17] Joscha: sure [03:17] Joscha: you can also try #opensourcemusicians === Joscha is now known as J0scha [03:18] it *should be as simple as, open qjackctl, or jack control.. have the firewire device plugged in, and i would have *only* that one firewire device plugged in.. open "setup" and select the "Firewire" driver.. save and hit "start" and see that jack starts without fail [03:18] if not, then, you go from there, troubleshooting [03:22] Ok. So my Plan is to use my Saffire pro40 as normal audio output for the System and with a daw for musikrecording. I've got the Ffado-mixer to work. I can set levels for all the Faders (testet it with an SPDIF Input, but i wasn't able to get Anything out of my Computer to the Interface. I heard the "normal" Programms are going to Output into a pulseaudio-server? and I need and bridge to get these Signals into Jack and then routing [03:23] i can tell you how i do it, and how otherwise do it [03:23] o Idea how to do that. [03:23] what do i do? i dont do "casual" audio on my production machine [03:24] i actually disable the pulse audio dbus in jack, and i dont do any flash or "normal" audio from the system on my firewire device [03:24] what do others do? just launch jack, and route the pulse audio sources using the dbus that is running by default out of the box [03:24] you'll see it in "qjackctl" in "connect".. the pulse audio sources can be routed there to your firewire device [03:28] in qjackctl in the Connect dialog there are 2 Outputs (System) and 6 Inputs (System) But these numbers don't refer to my Interface.So i think the System output is the Thing i want to rout into my Interface? [03:29] J0scha: nope.. i really dont think so, but, it literally wont hurt to try it [03:29] J0scha: are you using 14.04? [03:29] holstein, good night my friend :D [03:30] using Ubuntu mate 14.10. Should have said that at first. Found This IRC in a Forum. [03:32] But it's a fresh install, so if there are good reasons for a change on ubuntu studio i could do it without loosing configuration, becouse there is no yet [03:33] J0scha: i suggest 14.04 for firewire [03:33] J0scha: mate doesnt matter.. should work fine in mate [03:33] J0scha: but, the 14.04 base might [03:34] J0scha: i wouldnt bother changing now.. just try and set it up [03:34] J0scha: you are in the audio group? [03:35] I think so. I did sudo usermod -a -G audio with no errorsusername] [03:36] J0scha: is jack running without error? [03:36] whoops, writeing is hard... "sudo usermod -a -G audio [username]" [03:36] if it is, then, you are probably setup just fine [03:36] look in "qjackctl" under setup in the misc tab for the jack dbus make sure that is turned on [03:39] Dbus is activated and i didn t notice any errors? Is there an error log or something? Or would there errors be visibil in a pop up? [03:39] J0scha: just try jack, friend [03:39] dont overthink it.. route something like yoshimi, and use the virtualkeyboard in the menu to make sound [03:41] wait... typing jack in the terminal resultis in a "The Programm Jack isn't installd...", but my qjackctl is running... Maybe i missd installing Jack. [03:41] J0scha: qjackctl is just the gui [03:41] when you hit "start" it'll start jackd [03:42] "jack" really is not a package [03:43] qjackctl tells me itś working t 48Khz and since 49 minutes and there was no error. Does this mean qjackctl startet a Jack, wich in not installd on the System...? I'm getting confused. [03:44] J0scha: JACK is installed, and running [03:44] J0scha: you dont need to type jack in a terminal.. ;) [03:44] just tought about some help page and maybe an errorlog. [03:44] J0scha: so anyways, you should see, in "connnect" the firewire sources,a nd the pulse system soures.. route them together, and test your sytem audio [03:45] J0scha: you dont have any errors, yet, friend [03:45] J0scha: you dont need to troubleshoot errors yet :) [03:45] So my Problem is that my Interface obviously doesn't show up in qjackctl [03:47] J0scha: why? [03:47] J0scha: you state you see it.. route *something* [03:47] J0scha: open yoshimi, and try it [03:47] J0scha: im assuming you are using the firewire driver, as i said to do before. are you? [03:49] yes. It told me to restart the jackserver. in qjackctl the buttons in the left top corner are the correct ones to restart the server? [03:50] there is a "stop" button [03:51] you stop it, see that it is configured for the firewire driver, and not the alsa internal audio device, which, is what it seems you were setup for [03:52] Ok, I did this and there is still not 1 in-/output from my interface [03:53] J0scha: what makes you say that? [03:54] it wont say "the well supported focusrite ins and outs here" [03:54] they could be labeled anything.. [03:54] becouse the count doesent fit and the a labeled System [03:55] J0scha: please read that sentence, and try again.. [04:00] So i took Yoshimi, connected the apprering Yoshimi Outputs in Jack to all 6 Outputs of the System and turnd all Chaneles up in the FFado Mixer but i still do not hear a sound. [04:01] Is a Reboot needed while installing all these Audiodrivers? [04:02] J0scha, shouldn't be but it's possible [04:02] gonna try it [04:02] J0scha: you are not installing any drivers [04:02] they are baked into the kernel.. its modular [04:03] J0scha: i *dont* use the ffado mixer with my firewire hardware [04:03] J0scha: you can also try the ubuntustudio 14.04 live iso and see if everything "just magically works" out of the box [04:04] J0scha: if it does, you can just insatll ubuntustudio, and add mate to it.. that would be much easier.. assuming the hard part of setting up the audio is already done for you [04:04] Well, i have to lern much more about Linux in general. I need the Mixer for some 0-latency monitoring. [04:05] Allready downloading 14.04 [04:05] no you dont [04:05] you also *never* get zero latency monitoring [04:06] if you mean, you can bypass the unit, and hear live, you shouldnt need the mixer for that either.. [04:07] yeah, i found it helpful to spend a year+ using general linux on a laptop as my daily machine [04:07] But at first i'll try the reboot. The Download will take at least 40 mins The Feature is calld like that even if this is not possible. [04:07] lol [04:08] J0scha: on my unit, i have a knob that fades beteen the system audio from the computer, and what is "live" in the inputs.. *before* the computer [04:08] you *can* call that "zero latency" if you want.. but, its not [04:08] I used Linux on my only mashine for 2 Years but it is a few years ago and i was pretty young. (like 12 or so) [04:09] i mean, it even takes time for the sound to travel through the air to your ears [04:09] It's near enough for not hearing it while playing drums. Thats enough for me :D [04:10] not hearing what? [04:10] Now reboot. Bye [04:10] the latency [04:10] J0scha: its analog, thats why [04:10] which *still* has latency.. [04:19] yes, the reboot made everything is working. Now I just have to get this pulseaudio sound into jack. [04:20] also got this working. That you very much for your time! holstein! [11:26] have sorted most of the sound problems with midi....but now after using jack or qsynth i lose all sound in my browser and spotify..anyone know why [16:33] Hello? [17:06] ive sorted most of the probs with my midi sound output now and have been able to start using midi with audio... === tlc is now known as Guest67373 [20:15] anyone not afk? [20:18] yes... === tlc is now known as Guest32576