[00:19] <john> oh no
[00:22] <nomic> whats up
[00:24] <john> nothing
[00:24] <john> I like this community
[01:23] <AgAu> any one else have a buggy panel menu http://i.imgur.com/KiSGPYU.png ?
[01:24] <AgAu> I've installed xubuntu 14.04 and 14.10 and it's done the same thing every time even on a vbox
[01:26] <brainwash> AgAu: how do you trigger this bug?
[01:26] <AgAu> simply just adding or removing items from a panel
[01:26] <AgAu> literally if i remove a single item from the default panel
[01:27] <AgAu> it will rename the others clock
[01:27] <brainwash> that's strange. I haven't seen any bug report addressing such an issue yet
[01:28] <brainwash> I suggest filing a bug report on launchpad
[01:30] <brainwash> it helps if a bug is reproducible, sadly I cannot test it right now
[01:31] <AgAu> yeh i know thats why i haven't posted it
[01:31] <AgAu> i may have a play around later on a virtual box or live session and see if i can reproduce it
[01:32] <brainwash> I assume that restarting the panel helps to fix it
[01:32] <brainwash> xfce4-panel -r
[01:32] <AgAu> ill give it atest
[01:32] <AgAu> but even when i create a new panel
[01:32] <AgAu> and add itmes
[01:32] <AgAu> items*
[01:33] <AgAu> most of the items added assume the name clock
[01:33] <AgAu> or directory menu
[01:33] <AgAu> that restart did nothing
[01:34] <brainwash> really odd
[01:34] <AgAu> whats strange is
[01:34] <AgAu> i installed xubuntu about 4-5 times in totaly
[01:34] <AgAu> total*
[01:34] <AgAu> and it's done it each time
[01:34] <brainwash> that is strange indeed
[01:35] <brainwash> why would you reinstall it 4-5 times? :>
[01:35] <AgAu> well i just recently ditched windows
[01:35] <AgAu> and i had a lot of problems with 14.04 so i ended up using utopic
[01:36] <brainwash> like I said, it helps a lot if you file a bug report on launchpad
[01:36] <AgAu> i also installed it about 5 times in a vbox before i switched to test all my hardware/software
[01:37] <AgAu> will do... if i can reproduce it on a fresh install in vbox or something
[01:37] <brainwash> thanks :)
[01:37] <krytarik> AgAu: Guest session would do too, btw.
[01:38] <AgAu> alright ill give that a try first
[01:38] <brainwash> oh, just found it https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10903
[01:39] <brainwash> I suggest that you add your findings to this report ^
[01:40] <AgAu> ah okay thanks
[01:40] <AgAu> it's only a minor annoyance but i thought it would help to report the issue
[01:40] <brainwash> sure, even minor bugs should be fixed
[01:42] <AgAu> hmm page isn't loading
[01:49] <AgAu> that was strange... wouldn't let me connect to bugzilla.xfce.org with my vpn connected to sweden
[01:55] <AgAu> what's a good screen capture program ...i want to make a video about this bug
[02:17] <Wayward_Vagabond> Update manager seems to be locked up trying to install ~2gb worth of updates.
[02:17] <Wayward_Vagabond> How do I stop it in a way that won't break my system/packages?
[02:32] <AgAu> well posted a video of that bug..pretty strange indeed
[02:40] <krytarik> AgAu: Thanks.
[02:41] <AgAu> seems pretty rare too
[02:41] <krytarik> Apparently.
[02:41] <AgAu> i mean only one other person reported it
[03:19] <jacetor> anyone have any idea how long I should wait for an ext4 partition to be established when installing xubuntu on a new drive?
[03:19] <holstein> jacetor: not sure what you mean by 'established', but it depends on the size, and other factors.. the drive could be DOA
[03:21] <jacetor> I just had it installed today and it tested out fine. It is a 75GB partition that presumably is being formatted but no indication what, if anything is happening.
[03:21] <jacetor> the drive is not indicating activity ...
[03:22] <holstein> !details
[03:23] <jacetor> sorry ubottu, I haven't used IRC in over a decade. what is !pastebin?
[03:25] <holstein> !pastebin
[03:25] <holstein> !bot | jacetor
[03:25] <holstein> jacetor: what did you partition? and how? with what software? when? why? etc
[03:26] <holstein> what i see now is, you have set something to format to ext4? correct? and its taking longer than you expect?
[03:32] <jacetor> I just pasted from the pastebin but have no idea where that goes lol. Anyway, yes, I did. It has been hung on a log-output -t ubiquity laptop-detect command for almost an hour
[03:33] <jacetor> I set up the partitions as part of the install process ...
[03:34] <holstein> jacetor: what partitions? on what drive? with what software?
[03:35] <holstein> jacetor: it shouldnt take an hour to do a partition.. are you not doing auto partitioning?
[03:36] <jacetor> no, I did it manually. root, /home, swap and an ntfs logical data partition
[03:36] <holstein> jacetor: i need more detail about what you have done to help you
[03:37] <holstein> jacetor: i suggest *not* doing manual partitioning.. and just clear up free space and let the system do it.
[03:37] <holstein> the ntfs partition will need some setup to work with linux..
[03:37] <jacetor> where does !pastebin post? I put it all in one of those ... I can do it again as a multi part here if that would help
[03:37] <holstein> jacetor: it doesnt take an hour to do that, so something is wrong
[03:38] <jacetor> I understand about ntfs might be a problem but I can work through that after the system is installed ...
[03:38] <holstein> jacetor: you would visit http://paste.ubuntu.com/ and paste, and say "post"
[03:38] <jacetor> okay, I will ...
[03:38] <holstein> jacetor: its not that 'it might be a problem"
[03:39] <holstein> jacetor: its that you *will* have a permission issue to deal with
[03:39] <holstein> but, i dont think that is your issue..
[03:39] <Wayward_Vagabond> So, x crashed while update manager was hung
[03:40] <Wayward_Vagabond> now my window manager and firefox and screwed up
[03:40] <holstein> Wayward_Vagabond: you can "Reset" the configs.. for both of those
[03:40] <Wayward_Vagabond> Wait, network manager seems to be what triggered it
[03:41] <Wayward_Vagabond> "nm-applet crashed with SIGABRT in raise()"
[03:42] <jacetor> holstein: okay, done and pasted ...
[03:42] <holstein> jacetor: ok.. if you feel there is someting a volunteer should look at, you can share the url you have
[03:42] <jacetor> I'm afraid I don't have a url :-(
[03:42] <holstein> jacetor: pastebins are simply a way for you to share lots of lines of information in the IRC
[03:43] <holstein> jacetor: friend... you get one.. when you go to http://paste.ubuntu.com/, and paste your text, and his the "paste!" button, you *Then* get a new page.. you copy that URL, and share it here. and the volunteers in the channel can see what you shared
[03:44] <jacetor> holstein: ah, okay. Thanks :-)
[03:45] <Wayward_Vagabond> ...I can't get update manager to work right to try and fix what it busted.
[03:46] <jacetor> Pasted problem installing Xubuntu on http://paste.ubuntu.com/9405976/
[03:48] <holstein> Wayward_Vagabond: you can use a terminal.. "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" you can do that from tty..
[03:48] <holstein> !tty | Wayward_Vagabond
[03:48] <holstein> Wayward_Vagabond: and, you can rename the .configs you say are broken from there, or from a live CD
[03:50] <sleezio|bama> hello, in the past few days i've noticed i've ben getting qpaint errors, anyone else experiencing this? i'm wondering if it was a recent update that borked something
[03:51] <Wayward_Vagabond> And something seems to be running in the background to keep me from starting synaptic
[03:51] <holstein> sleezio|bama: errors where? what errors?
[03:51] <holstein> Wayward_Vagabond: you can use the terminal, friend
[03:51] <sleezio|bama> holstein, in terminal when i run a program, i nevr had the errors until a few days ago
[03:52] <holstein> Wayward_Vagabond: please use "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and any errors you get will help a volunteer assist you
[03:52] <holstein> sleezio|bama: what "errors" ? are the just messages?
[03:52] <holstein> !paste | sleezio|bama
[03:52] <sleezio|bama> let me restart the program and cnp
[03:53] <sleezio|bama> i couldn't grab them all, but here's a few lines of it: http://pastebin.com/FivfPZRU
[03:54] <holstein> sleezio|bama: and what is broken?
[03:55] <sleezio|bama> it isn't actually broken, but when i first start the program, the grafix are a bit goofy, but clear up after about a minute
[03:55] <holstein> sleezio|bama: i know what i would do.. but, you can try as another user.. like the guest user, and see if its just the users config for the application.. you can see if there are updates and apply them..
[03:56] <sleezio|bama> ok, i'll give that a shot, thanks
[03:57] <jacetor> holstein: thanks for your time. I'll just start over and let it auto configure. See if that helps ...
[03:58] <holstein> jacetor: good luck
[12:47] <jacetor> Trying to upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04. Downloads the tool and then disappears; any hints?
[12:47] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade | jacetor, you're upgrading from one dead release to another dead release ...
[12:48] <cfhowlett> jacetor, correction:  12.04 is not dead
[12:48] <jacetor> cfhowlett: I'm just in the manager and hitting the 'upgrade' button. I thought it would upgrade me a release at a time.
[12:49] <cfhowlett> jacetor, press buttons less.  read more.
[12:49] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade
[12:50] <jacetor> cfhowlett: Thanks, will follow the guide. (It's early here ;-) )
[12:50] <cfhowlett> jacetor, best of luck to you
[16:35] <rosaecaeruleae> hi
[16:36] <rosaecaeruleae> graphics are back to normal, now with the x server only, no propietary drivers. I feel the resolution looks funny, like letters are out of focus
[16:36] <rosaecaeruleae> is that my imagination?
[16:37] <rosaecaeruleae> video looks also rare
[16:37] <rosaecaeruleae> dvd movies I mean
[16:37] <rosaecaeruleae> and mp4 movies
[17:04] <xubuntu837> hallo
[21:39] <xubuntu61w> hey everyone
[21:43] <xubuntu61w> can someone tell me what to do when i get "error while copying this is a read only device"
[21:59] <nomic> is to do with file permissions
[22:00] <nomic> or device permissions
[22:01] <nomic> http://docstore.mik.ua/orelly/linux/run/ch06_03.htm  6.3. Device Files
[22:02] <brainwash> nomic: he already left this channel
[22:02] <nomic> i just saw
[22:43] <xubuntu93w> Hi all
[22:43] <xubuntu93w> I have a question:
[22:43] <knome> hello
[22:44] <xubuntu93w> how can I turn numlock on for login screen in xubuntu?
[22:46] <xubuntu93w> I looked at the community help wiki on this topic http://help.ubuntu.com/community/NumLock
[22:46] <xubuntu93w> but i cant find /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/50-unity-greeter.conf
[22:48] <knome> for this purpose, you can create that file (or 50-enable-numlock.conf in the same directory for more sanity)
[22:51] <xubuntu93w> Thanks. Noob here... i should add the line [SeatDefaults] like the other files in that directory before turning numlockx on?
[22:52] <knome> i believe so
[22:52] <xubuntu93w> thanks so much!
[22:52] <xubuntu93w> will test now
[22:52] <knome> you're welcome
[22:55] <xubuntu52w> numlock works now, thanks again knome :)
[22:56] <knome> no problem, enjoy