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dholbachgood morning07:55
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mzanettidpm: ping08:46
mzanettizsombi: hey, I'm trying to access the organizer api from a push helper, but it crashes (while the same code works fine from an app). Do you have any insights there?08:48
mzanettiseems it wants to access some dconf schema and that aborts because not schemas are installed08:48
zsombimzanetti: it's renato whom you should ask... I'm similar user of it as you are :)08:48
mzanettiso I assume some issue with the environment push helpers are executed in08:49
zsombimzanetti: and he will be around here later today I guess08:50
mzanettihmm... I don't think it actually an issue in the organizer stuff08:50
mzanettirather push08:50
mzanettido you know who to ask there?08:50
dpmhi mzanetti08:50
mzanettidpm: hi. ^08:51
dpmmzanetti, probably ralsina08:51
mzanettiok. will do that08:51
dpmmzanetti, or perhaps someone from the desktop team will know more about schemas, seb128 might be able to point you in the right direction08:52
seb128dpm, what?08:52
mzanettiwell, from what I can see, it's really that the push helpers are executed in an environment where it can't find them... not a real issue with schemas08:53
dpmseb128, I'll leave mzanetti expand on that, but he's trying to use the organizer API from a push helper and it seems it's crashing trying to access some dconf schema and finds no schemas installed08:54
mzanettiyeah, that sums it up quite well08:54
seb128what's the error exactly?08:55
mzanettiaborts with (process:26739): GLib-GIO-ERROR **: No GSettings schemas are installed on the system08:55
mzanettithat's the line the makes it fail: m_manager = new QOrganizerManager(envManager);08:56
seb128well, is the schemas installed?08:56
seb128seems like your installation is borked08:57
mzanettiseb128: yeah, this works in the app08:57
mzanettibut not from the push helper08:57
seb128is the push helper having acces to the filesystem?08:57
mzanettiagain, I expect an issue in the environment where the push-helpers are run08:57
seb128or is it restricted?08:57
mzanettiit is confined, but same as the app08:57
mzanettiI gave it the "calendar" apparmor permission08:57
seb128do you have any apparmor deny?08:57
mzanettiI can't see one, no08:58
seb128mzanetti, is XDG_DATA_DIRS set?08:59
seb128to what value?08:59
* mzanetti chechs.08:59
mzanettibut I'm afraid the env is empty. let me verify09:00
seb128does it work if you define it?09:00
mzanettiwill try, gimme a minute09:01
mzanettiseb128: it's set to: /usr/share/ubuntu-touch:/usr/local/share:/usr/share in the app it's set to /opt/click.ubuntu.com/.click/users/phablet/com.ubuntu.reminders:/usr/share/ubuntu-touch:/usr/local/share:/usr/share09:07
mzanettiI doubt this is the issue then. looks reasonable09:07
seb128mzanetti, weird, it should look to XDG_DATA_DIRS/glib-2.0/schemas for the schemas and it should find it if it's correctly set09:08
seb128mzanetti, dunno then09:08
mzanettiseb128: hmm... I do get an apparmorr denied I see now: apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" profile="com.ubuntu.reminders_pushHelper_0.5.latest" name="/usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/gschemas.compiled" pid=31429 comm="push-helper" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=32011 ouid=009:18
mzanettiI wonder which policy this is09:19
mzanettidon't have anything special in the app09:19
seb128that's likely the issue09:24
mzanettiSaviq: interesting... Seems adding the "webview" permission goes around it09:24
mzanettiseb128: ^09:24
mzanettisorry Saviq09:24
Saviqmzanetti, interesting indeed!09:24
Saviq;P09:25
* mzanetti notes "webview" down as the might apparmor permission :D09:25
mzanettimighty09:25
mzanettiwhat's the package to report this bug against?09:27
popeydholbach: beuno for terminal, swordfish90 has made a fat package as per balloons blog post10:14
popeybut it's failing the click reviewer tools...10:14
popey        Architecture=multi does not match manifest architecture=['armhf', 'i386', 'amd64']10:14
popeywhat should we do here?10:14
dholbachpopey, jdstrand said he would look into fixing that in c-r-t10:17
dholbachthere's a bug open for it10:17
dholbachhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/click-reviewers-tools/+bug/139520410:18
ubot5`Launchpad bug 1395204 in Canonical Click Reviewers tools "Click review rejects multi-arch clicks" [High,Triaged]10:18
popeydholbach: thanks, so it is valid then?10:19
popey(meaning, I can approve it)10:19
dholbachAFAIUI yes10:21
popeyok10:23
popeydone10:23
popeyswordfish90: approved terminal reboot to the store10:24
rpadovani\o/10:24
swordfish90popey, dholbach thanks... I'm going to test it...10:24
swordfish90popey, very well... It seems fine! :D10:28
beunopopey, yes, valid10:28
beunooverride at will10:28
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Monday, and happy Brownie Day! :-D10:32
gcolluracan anyone try this snippet please? http://paste.ubuntu.com/9426167/  do you confirm that both the label and the search entry are visible at once?12:06
sverzegnassigcollura: do you mean that both PageHeadState.contents are visible at the same time?12:13
gcollurasverzegnassi, yes12:14
CarloJr86Bammm12:15
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sverzegnassigcollura: now I try the code, but I've already seen that issue some time ago12:15
CarloJr86Hi, swordfish9012:16
sverzegnassiyes, confirm!12:16
swordfish90CarloJr86, Hello!... Welcome to the ubuntu-app-devel channel! :D12:17
swordfish90gcollura, I just tested the code, and I can confirm what sverzegnassi was saying they are both visible.12:18
gcolluraswordfish90, it's a bug then12:19
gcollurasverzegnassi, swordfish90 which version of the sdk are you using?12:19
CarloJr86Thanks swordfish9012:19
sverzegnassigcollura, qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-toolkit-plugin 1.1.1279+14.10.20141007-0ubuntu112:22
swordfish90gcollura, same here... 1.1.1279+14.10.20141007-0ubuntu1 ... I've tested it on my utopic laptop...12:25
gcollurathanks sverzegnassi swordfish90 I'm going to file a bug against ubuntu-ui-toolkit12:26
gcolluraswordfish90, sverzegnassi https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/140029712:33
ubot5`Launchpad bug 1400297 in ubuntu-ui-toolkit (Ubuntu) "PageHeadState doens't correctly update head.contents" [Undecided,New]12:33
gcollurathank you both :)12:33
balloonspopey, swordfish90 so I can probably remove my old terminal package then I built just for x86?13:55
popeyi would, so it doesn't cause confusion13:56
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swordfish90balloons, If the new one is working, I think it's a good idea...13:57
popeyswordfish90: got some time to look at https://code.launchpad.net/~flscogna/ubuntu-weather-app/reorganization-and-native-launcher/+merge/241351 ?14:04
rickspencer3kalikiana, can you point me to documentation on SortFilterModel ?14:05
swordfish90popey, oh my... I forgot again about that... I'm really sorry. Looking into it right away.14:05
popeynp14:05
popeyswordfish90: should https://code.launchpad.net/~michael-sheldon/ubuntu-terminal-app/disable-autocaps/+merge/240582 land in the 'old' terminal?14:08
swordfish90popey, Yes it should. It is already in the new one though.14:10
balloonsswordfish90, popey works great on x86. I'll remove my build of the old package. Good stuff ;-)14:10
rpadovanirickspencer3, are you referring to http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/sdk-14.10/Ubuntu.Components.SortFilterModel/ ?14:10
rickspencer3rpadovani, yes! thank you14:11
rpadovaniyw14:11
swordfish90Yuuu... Thank you balloons ...14:13
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kalikianarpadovani: you're such an attention seeker, replying to people who ping me :-P14:21
popeyswordfish90: we should get the terminal app updated in the core apps daily ppa.14:32
swordfish90popey, yeah, what do you need for that?14:34
popeyi think we need to speak to CI to pull it in automatically.14:35
balloonsright, put I believe mhall119 at least can manually push one14:35
balloonsmaybe me too.. heh14:36
popeyi can too14:37
popeyshould we name it differently, to avoid conflict with the existing one?14:37
popeywe can't really replace it because the next time someone merges with the old one it'll clobber the new one14:38
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popeyi need to go afk, will take a look when I get back if you haven't by then.14:38
DS-McGuireHi all! Are there any HTML5 community apps I can help with? :D14:40
popeyDS-McGuire: just pinging dbarth - he may have something...14:42
DS-McGuirethanks popey!14:43
popeyhe's probably at lunch, feel free to ping him - he's in #ubuntu-touch14:44
DS-McGuirethanks popey will do now :)14:44
popeyballoons: swordfish90 I think it needs to be modified in debian/control to make it ubuntu-terminal-app-reboot perhaps? so it doesn't clash. If we do that then we can push to the ppa for wider testing on the desktop. What do you think?14:45
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dbarthDS-McGuire: but so, to your question, we mostly have a demo app in the works to play podcasts15:00
dbarthbut no real community app right now15:00
dbarthbest would be to discuss an app you would like to implement15:00
dbarthand then we can help you there, support where you need changes, etc.15:01
dbarthDS-McGuire: what woule be your dream app?15:01
DS-McGuiredbarth, sorry I was eating.15:02
DS-McGuirewell, I don't know to be honest. I was creating a HTML5 app the other day, it was a golf score card app that you could record your and other players scores on. I don't know what else to do really, that why I am wondering what other people are up to haha!15:04
balloonspopey, swordfish90 we should also check to ensure the dependencies are all correct for the debian package15:04
DS-McGuiredbarth, Working on a podcast app seems perfect to me since I can't move to Ubuntu Touch full time until I have a decent one.15:04
swordfish90balloons, agreed. Right now I'm working at the weather branch, I'll let you know when I'm done there.15:05
dbarthDS-McGuire: a golf score card, that's a nice app; plus i don't think we have one already in the store15:17
dbarthDS-McGuire: and are you more into code or html/css UI?15:18
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DS-McGuiredbarth, I would say HTML/CSS. It's currently what I know best.15:35
dbarthDS-McGuire: ok, good to know15:39
swordfish90balloons, I'm sorry I took a look again at my merge proposal, but I don't know why it is failing. There is probably an issue in how we build the timezone plugin, could you take a look at that please? https://code.launchpad.net/~flscogna/ubuntu-weather-app/reorganization-and-native-launcher/+merge/24135115:44
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DS-McGuiredbarth, Since it's my first app I don't think it will be very good, this is why I would rather work with someone else :P15:46
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rpadovanipopey, o/15:56
popeyhey rpadovani15:56
rpadovanipopey, could you please invite a designer (maybe gventuri) to next calculator meeting? Bartosk and I have some doubts15:57
popeyrpadovani: sure, but we can raise things before then if needed. What's up?15:58
balloonsswordfish90, yes I'm looking15:58
rpadovanipopey, we are in doubt about two things atm: what happen when the result of a calc is larger than the screen? Maybe we need to set a limit to digit a user can insert, or use exponential mode15:59
popeyrpadovani: i mentioned this last week. We should limit to ~10 digits15:59
rpadovanipopey, yes, but what about the result?16:00
rpadovaniI mean, 9999999999x99999999 is larger than the screen16:00
balloonsswordfish90, well, does it build locally for you?16:00
popeyE16:00
popey16:00
rpadovaniok :D16:00
popeythe firefox calendar has one string translated to every language...16:00
popey"Error"16:00
rpadovanipopey, second question: should the user be allowed to insert digit anywhere in the calc or only push at the end?16:01
popeyfrom my perspective, i dont think we should insert in the middle16:03
popeywe'd end up making a rich text editor otherwise16:03
rpadovanigotcha thanks16:04
swordfish90balloons, No it doesn't. If I recall correctly I was able to build the click packages so i pushed the branch. "dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -D -us -uc" is failing as you wrote.16:04
balloonsahh, ok :-) I thought you meant it was working for you locally16:05
rpadovanipopey, doesnt make any sense to set limit of digit to ten. Does an operator count? Is cos( = 4 or 0? Also, why we have to limit number of digit?16:13
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popeyrpadovani: oh, i see16:14
rpadovanipopey, and about edit the calc, looking to the specs, we have to implement editmode :D16:14
popeyrpadovani: makes more sense now, i thought you just meant the result, not the whole thing16:14
popeyyeah16:14
popeyso  ignore me!16:14
rpadovanilol16:14
gang64Hi Guys16:15
balloonshey gang64 !16:16
rpadovaniHey gang64 o/16:19
rpadovanigang64, so at the end you're right: we have to allow users to insert digit everywhere in the calc16:20
rpadovanigang64, and we set to 10 digits the limit of the result, I'm on it right now16:21
gang64ok16:23
gang64Can I leave the cursor enabled by default for calc16:24
gang64?16:24
rpadovanigang64, I think no, if you look to slide #4 we have to insert "0" when there is nothing, also I don't think it is well-looking16:25
rpadovanipopey, what do you think ^^16:25
gang64@Popey just take a look at branch https://code.launchpad.net/~gang65/ubuntu-calculator-app/decimal_point_fix16:27
gang64For sure cursor must be enabled after we introduce Edit feature (in the middle)16:28
gang64So it is only matter of time, when it should be enabled...16:28
popeyon a hangout, will look in a little bit...16:29
rpadovanigang64, but the cursor is already enabled when you focus the textfield16:33
rpadovanigang64, why do you want to have enabled also when you unfocus it?16:33
gang64To be clear where the next numbers/operation will be added when you press button16:34
gang64If user start calculator for the first time, then it is blinking16:35
gang64It autofocus at this area, and know that there will be added text16:35
gang64I tested it on my wife16:35
gang64without cursor, he dosn't know where number will be added16:36
gang64(especially when you have a lot of previous formulas in history)16:36
rpadovanimhhh16:37
gang64:-)16:37
gang64Hope you understand16:37
gang64So user ALWAYS will know where things will be added16:38
gang64and16:38
rpadovaniYes, I see your point here, but I'm not sure about the default user case: an user 99% time does only a simple calc, and he expects the digit is added at the end16:39
rpadovaniand the cursor is useless in that case16:39
gang64it will be consistent with edit feature16:39
gang64ok. I could remove it16:41
gang64if you think it is useless16:41
gang64Another topic16:42
gang64My idea is to create all features which was available at "old calculator", according to new design,16:43
popeyok, where were we?16:43
gang64and make "new calculator" stable16:43
rpadovanipopey, we are just chatting on various topics16:43
popeyso we're going to allow the calculation to get very long, right?16:44
gang64Next I would like to switch old calculator with new one16:44
popeyand scroll off screen to the left?16:44
popeygang64: we can't switch calculator until all the autopilot tests are done and we haven't regressed features ☻16:44
popey(also, as calculator is in the default image, we need to get QA approval)16:44
popey(just so you know the process)16:44
rpadovanipopey, that is for the insert mode. For results we limit result to 10 digits and text of the formula fades in the left16:44
rpadovanias per design16:45
gang64ok16:45
popeyok16:45
popeywill we be able to slide the calculation left and right, to find the bit to correct?16:45
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rpadovanipopey, in the history if you click on a formula you enter the editMode, so yes16:45
rpadovaniwell, when we implement it :D16:45
popeyI mean, If I type 19827638 + 19287361287 + 128735627465 + 5 - 12873612 + 12735  =   . will I then be able to scroll back to the "5" and change to "6"?16:46
popeyheh16:46
popeyand if so, the result dynamically updates?16:46
popeylike a spreadsheet?16:46
gang64@popey Am I able to view long formula in history, and how I could do that?16:47
popeyno, the current one.16:47
gang64So if you have formula: "19827638 + 19287361287 + 128735627465 + 5 - 12873612 + 12735  = 384579832745"16:48
gang64then you will only see " + 12735  = 384579832745" ?16:48
gang64in history16:48
gang64Am I right?16:48
rpadovanipopey, yes and no. Actually no due an upstream bug, but textfield and flickable do strange things together, so you can scroll to left but it is difficult16:49
popeyok16:49
popeyso to correct "5" to "6" you need to delete the following - 12873612 + 12735 first?16:49
rpadovaniIf we use only one row to insert calc, yes16:49
popeyok16:49
rpadovaniBecause when you try to scroll a textfield in horizontal you actually focus it16:50
popeyright16:50
popeyI understand.16:50
gang64Maybe we should submit bug report for that?16:50
rpadovanigang64, last time I talked with zsombi was a wont fix16:51
gang64Do you have bug number for that?16:52
rpadovaninope16:53
gang64ok16:54
gang64Another topic to discuss:16:54
gang64@Riccardo Could you please ask Michael how he think could be implemented keyboard support with new Layout?16:55
gang64I mean Michael Zanetti16:56
rpadovanigang64, what are you referring to? Which new layout?16:56
gang64I mean new Layout Engine which was done by Michael.17:00
gang64It solves many issues with scrolling, but we miss the keyboard support which is present in "old calculator"17:01
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gang64@Riccardo Just ask how he think keyboard support could be implemented in "new calc"17:02
rpadovanioh, I see. mzanetti do you have any suggestion on this? How could we map desktop keyboard keys to calculator keyboard?17:02
rpadovani(brb)17:03
gang64Sorry I need to go now17:04
popeyok, thanks gang64 !17:04
gang64Talk to you later17:04
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mzanettirpadovani: not sure I understand the question17:21
rpadovanimzanetti, do desktop convergence we want the calculator works also on the desktop, and when user clicks "1" on the keyboard we want the animation of "1" pressed on the calculator screen keyboard17:24
mzanettirpadovani: ohh.. this is about the physical keyboard17:24
rpadovaniI didn't write physical? Ops :D17:25
mzanettiI see17:25
mzanettiand we want the buttons to have some sort of highlight effect when the keyboard is pressed17:25
mzanetti?17:26
rpadovanithat is17:26
mzanettiok. now I get what that map was about, and what the review comment was asking for :D17:26
mzanettiI always thought about a desktop like layout :D17:26
mzanettiok will add that17:27
rpadovanioh, :D17:27
rpadovanithanks mzanetti!17:27
mzanettirpadovani: hey, question:17:37
mzanettiis there any code that does the input handling?17:37
mzanettiI got this url from gang65: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-calculator-dev/ubuntu-calculator-app/trunk/view/head:/Simple/SimplePage.qml17:38
mzanettibut is that code still around somewhere or needs to be "rebooted"?17:39
rpadovanimzanetti, that code doesn't exist anymore17:49
mzanettirpadovani: ack17:49
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renato___swordfish90, I was thanking with Elleo, about a way to check if the QML field text property was changed due a property change (qml code), or by the virtual keyboard18:08
renato___sotrdofthsstarwa, Elleo told me that you solve that on the terminal app18:09
sotrdofthsstarwarenato___, sorry they must be confused.  I don't know what that's all about18:10
renato___sotrdofthsstarwa, sorry I want to talk with swordfish90  :D18:10
sotrdofthsstarwarenato___, no problem :)18:10
renato___swordfish90, I was trying to use: http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5/qml-qtquick-keyevent.html18:10
renato___swordfish90, but looks like the vkb does not send the keypress event18:10
swordfish90renato___, Yeah I think that could be done in theory. I had to manage it from the cpp code so that's a different story, but getting key event in that way should work.18:12
swordfish90renato___, are you sure that the object object which manages them is currently in focus (forceActiveFocus())18:13
renato___swordfish90, works nice on desktop with real keyboard18:13
renato___swordfish90, well I am receiving the property text change18:14
renato___swordfish90, but I am not receiving the keypress event18:14
swordfish90renato___, Ok. Always talking from the cpp side, the two events are different, just let me check the code a sec.18:15
swordfish90renato___, Ok. In the terminal the virtual key events are processed by inputMethoEvent instead of keyPressEvent.18:19
swordfish90renato___, That said we need to find a way to manage that form QML.18:19
renato___humm18:20
renato___let me see if I can do the same on QML18:20
renato___swordfish90, I think this should be transparent, otherwise we will need to have 2 codes for desktop and phone18:21
renato___swordfish90, which objects emits the inputMethodEvent?18:22
swordfish90renato___, I agree with you, there should not be the need to have different sets of events.18:23
swordfish90renato___, I believe it is the keyboard but I might be wrong. Can I ask you why you need to manage those events?18:24
renato___swordfish90, well, I am trying to fix this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/dialer-app/+bug/139901118:25
ubot5`Launchpad bug 1399011 in dialer-app "[Call]Cannot enter '#' and '*' in dialing interface after entered numbers" [Critical,Confirmed]18:25
renato___swordfish90, the way that I am trying to fix that is: if the user type any char that is not a number I will disable the phone number auto-format18:26
renato___swordfish90, then I need to check what the user is typing18:26
renato___swordfish90, using the text change property is not enough because the application can pre-load a old value18:27
swordfish90renato___, I'm sorry. I've been thinking to possible clean solution to the problem but I don't know a way to do that in pure QML. I can't find anything in the docs.18:34
renato___swordfish90, thanks I will discuss about that with Elleo18:35
swordfish90renato___, You're welcome sorry I can't help more...18:36
mzanettirpadovani: https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/ubuntu-calculator-app/kbdhandling/+merge/24404319:19
* balloons wonders why popey hasn't made the topic cool about hackfests19:29
rpadovanimzanetti, thanks mate!20:07
DS-McGuireCan someone help me get the latest version of the Ubuntu Browser on my Ubuntu 14.04 desktop?20:17
DS-McGuirepopey, Any idea about my problem above? ^20:49
popeyDS-McGuire: not sure we build for 14.0420:49
popeyyou can certainly grab the 14.10 package and try building it?20:50
DS-McGuirepopey, Well, that might explain a lot. Will I run into many problem if I try to do that?20:50
popeyi have no idea ☻20:50
DS-McGuireonly one way to find out...20:52
popey\o/20:52
rickspencer3any experts on listviews and repeaters here?20:53
rickspencer3I have a model that is a dictionary of lists20:53
rickspencer3like: {"category1":[ a bunch of items], "category2":[a bunch of items], etc...}20:54
rickspencer3I want a list that uses ListItem.Header to be set to the category, then under it, the list of items for it20:54
rickspencer3I've been messing around with repeaters and list views, but haven't hit on a great system yet20:55
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zmajhello22:29
popeyyo22:29
zmajhow are you today?22:29
zmajHow do I add a filepicker to a webview(oxyde)?22:30
zmajin qml22:30
popeyWell, you can use content-hub22:31
zmajhm,I was thinking of a situation when a user clicks on an upload button on a webpage.Will that also work?22:36
popeyzmaj: should just work22:42
zmajok22:43
DS-McGuireWhat would be the correct mailing list to join for HTML5 app development? Just the standard one?22:47
dakerzmaj: what are you using exactly ? plain oxide or UbuntuWebView ?22:49
DS-McGuirepopey, last time I ask for your help... Tonight anyway ;). Could you help me out? :L22:49
dakerDS-McGuire: there is no ML for the HTML5 SDK developement, we just use the #ubuntu-webapps channel22:50
DS-McGuiredaker, thank you :)22:51
dakeryw22:51
zmajplain oxyde22:51
zmajI can switch to ubuntuwebview if needed22:52
zmaj*oxide22:52
dakerok22:55
dakerhttps://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/webbrowser-app/trunk/view/head:/src/app/WebViewImpl.qml#L4022:55
dakerhttps://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/webbrowser-app/trunk/view/head:/src/app/WebViewImpl.qml#L4022:56
dakerhttps://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/webbrowser-app/trunk/view/head:/src/app/WebViewImpl.qml#L6822:56
dakerand the ContentPickerDialog22:56
dakerhttps://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/webbrowser-app/trunk/view/head:/src/app/ContentPickerDialog.qml22:56
dakerzmaj: ^22:57
zmajthx23:00
dakeryw23:01
zmajYes!!!!I cracked it again,thanks to you guys :D For now I am only using the FilePickerDialog.But in a few days I will implement both the touch and the desktop dialogs into my browser...23:49
zmajAnyhow:Virtual beer to you guys and celebrations XD23:50
zmajhave a good night23:59

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