[07:55] good morning [08:35] hey dpm [08:35] how's life over there? how was your weekend? [08:35] did we want to move our call to 12? [08:35] morning dholbach [08:35] yeah, I'll do it now if that still works for you [08:36] yes, works for me :) [08:37] done :) [08:37] brilliant :) [16:32] jono, around? [16:35] dholbach, hey [16:35] sorry, pal, here now [16:35] cool [16:35] will invite you to a HO [16:36] oh, there was one in the cal already [16:36] but I'm happy to join another one if that's easier [16:36] dholbach, oh, coming now [17:10] all right my friends - have a great rest of your day - see you again tomorrow! [17:38] popey, which laptop do you have, was it you who had a Thinkpad X201? [17:51] no, x220 [18:41] belkinsa: I hope you don't mind, but I added Linux Padawan to my list of Ubuntu Incubator proposals, I think it would be a good project for me to focus on [18:54] popey, ok, thanks. I remember a while ago you had to install a special kernel for the X220 to work around a particular bug (can't remember which) - do you still have to do that, or are you using the default Ubuntu kernel? [18:55] dpm: i run stock kernel [18:55] Linux deep-thought 3.16.0-25-generic #33-Ubuntu SMP Tue Nov 4 12:06:54 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux [18:55] mhall119, I don't mind it. [18:55] cool, ty === toddyhb is now known as toddy [19:51] popey: did you forget to add your reply before you sent that mail :p [19:51] keyboard fail [19:52] :) [19:52] computers are hard [19:52] I heard that [19:52] lets go shopping! [19:52] you're buying :p [20:37] \o/ I know how to email [20:38] ha ha [21:55] wow so much mail and tweets to reply back to [21:55] ello all [21:56] hah [21:57] I take your hah and reply with Zzz [21:57] czajkowski: have a strong drink ready before reading [21:58] so here's a thing I never knew, some peopole post on the outside of a parcel in big letters what the items are inside. large pita when you're not here to collect and they get handed to the person who is getting them as a gift so they can see ;( [21:59] that sounds like a pretty terrible idea all around [21:59] Jon saw his present he was getting, on the plus side he could tell me he didn't want it so that was nice [21:59] now trying to arrange sending back of a 3D printer :( [21:59] bleugh [21:59] I can just imagine "Very valuable things inside, high resale potential, please don't open" [22:00] but it's a 3d printer, he could *make* the things he wanted [22:00] ☻ [22:00] on the front marked in big bold size 20 font 3D printer [22:00] honestly, I'm not sure the kind of person who would turn down a 3d printer is the right person for czajkowski ;) [22:00] turns out I got a gift wrong [22:00] it had to happen [22:01] which one did you get OOI? [22:01] hmm [22:01] http://www.emakershop.com/browse/listing?l=1143 [22:01] oh nice! [22:02] lot of work to put together tho [22:02] yup for all of them [22:02] oh well [22:02] back it goes [22:03] somebody needs to create a bootstrap bot, who's only function is to automatically build a 3d printer [22:03] https://twitter.com/matthewrevell/status/541981237477658624 if you know of anyone let us know :D [22:14] hey popey [22:15] so, my hp microserver is gettign a bit long in the tooth, CPU-wise I mean [22:15] so I ordered this node 304 case, and it's so well designed I can't shut up about it [22:15] I'm going to just transplant the OS and storage drives right into it [22:16] ooh! [22:16] wat zat? [22:16] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352027 [22:16] so intel makes this thing called a "20th Anniversary Pentium" [22:17] which is like 60 dollars, and is haswell based, and is unlocked so you can OC it if you want [22:17] so I got one and a cheap mobo, etc. to toss into this, it hold _6 drives_ in a mini itx case [22:18] so I was looking at the new gen HP microservers [22:19] but I ended up just getting the parts for much cheaper for one of these builds [22:20] 6 bays!? [22:20] popey, the newer HP microservers give you two options, one is an old ivy bridge desktop processor, the other is an expensive Xeon, there's no middle ground. :-/ [22:20] yeah, 6 bays, unbelivable [22:20] also, HP are evil. [22:21] I find pleia2 to be pleasant [22:21] no firmware updates for you unless you pay for a support contract [22:21] exceptions prove rules [22:21] wow really? [22:21] yeah [22:21] thats the main reason I wont buy another HP machine [22:21] the other problem with my hp, the disk io is just starting to really bother me [22:21] I mean, it was relatively cheap [22:21] but these days, I need more beefy IO to do stuff on it. [22:22] yeah [22:22] mine is feeling weedy too [22:22] My only mistake is my mobo only has 4 sata ports [22:22] so I got a 6 port esata pci-e card, but it was like 30 bucks [22:38] popey: mac minis is where its at... cheap and they run Linux [22:38] eck [22:38] jcastro: ^ [22:39] I don't see how 6 drives fit in that [22:39] popey, jcastro - that's ok, hardware is hp inc, I'm hp corp ;) [22:41] (really, I'm just hacking on openstack infra and hp what?) [22:42] pleia2: is your company not split yet? [22:43] I thought they were splitting into Printers/Cloud/PC [22:43] bkerensa: it hasn't, but I pretend it has whenever anyone talks about hardware [22:43] hah [22:43] ☻ [22:43] hp corp is cloud and business, hp inc is printers, servers, etc [22:43] or at least, will be in a year or so [22:43] s/inc/ink/ for maximum punnage [22:44] jcastro: why 6 drives? drop a 1TB in there and call it a day [22:44] It's my NAS, it needs multiple drives, unless you see 12TB drives around? [22:45] lulz [22:45] * popey has 12x2TB at home [22:45] need one big-ass mac mini for that! :D [22:46] I have 4x2TB laying around from my last NAS, I need to find a use for them [22:46] jcastro: that is a damn lot of data... I am using like less than 1% of a TB for photos and I have tens of thousands [22:47] popey: my NAS http://i.imgur.com/0QlKIBU.jpg [22:47] :D [22:47] NAS and Build Servers anyways [23:17] jcastro: is there a way to "shutdown" a juju environment so that I can reclaim memory from these LXC containers I've got running? [23:18] but in a way that lets me restart them without bootstrapping and re-deploying? [23:18] I believe you can stop the LXC containers [23:18] But sec, I dunno if that works [23:18] marcoceppi, ^^^ [23:18] mhall119: you cah just do `sudo lxc-ls --fancy` [23:18] then `sudo lxc-stop -n ` [23:19] when you're ready, just start each container up again [23:19] they'll reregister, etc [23:19] jcastro: we should just build a `juju-local` plugin [23:19] marcoceppi, oh man, that'd be a nice plugin [23:19] yeah [23:19] juju pause [23:19] so you can suspend, restart [23:19] etc [23:19] k, I'll file a bug for later [23:19] the fact we don't have this yet is silly [23:19] * marcoceppi gets started [23:20] marcoceppi, unrelated, don't forget brackets for udtc yo [23:22] https://github.com/juju/plugins/issues/38 [23:22] mhall119, ^ [23:27] thanks jcastro [23:27] jcastro: apparently I started this months ago and didn't get very far [23:27] https://github.com/juju-solutions/juju-local [23:27] lol [23:27] man dude, post to the list [23:27] first I mean [23:27] dude it's just a readme [23:28] oh, lol [23:30] jcastro: how do I +1 that? [23:31] not sure