[07:55] <dholbach> good morning
[08:35] <dholbach> hey dpm
[08:35] <dholbach> how's life over there? how was your weekend?
[08:35] <dholbach> did we want to move our call to 12?
[08:35] <dpm> morning dholbach
[08:35] <dpm> yeah, I'll do it now if that still works for you
[08:36] <dholbach> yes, works for me :)
[08:37] <dpm> done :)
[08:37] <dholbach> brilliant :)
[16:32] <dholbach> jono, around?
[16:35] <jono> dholbach, hey
[16:35] <jono> sorry, pal, here now
[16:35] <dholbach> cool
[16:35] <jono> will invite you to a HO
[16:36] <dholbach> oh, there was one in the cal already
[16:36] <dholbach> but I'm happy to join another one if that's easier
[16:36] <jono> dholbach, oh, coming now
[17:10] <dholbach> all right my friends - have a great rest of your day - see you again tomorrow!
[17:38] <dpm> popey, which laptop do you have, was it you who had a Thinkpad X201?
[17:51] <popey> no, x220
[18:41] <mhall119> belkinsa: I hope you don't mind, but I added Linux Padawan to my list of Ubuntu Incubator proposals, I think it would be a good project for me to focus on
[18:54] <dpm> popey, ok, thanks. I remember a while ago you had to install a special kernel for the X220 to work around a particular bug (can't remember which) - do you still have to do that, or are you using the default Ubuntu kernel?
[18:55] <popey> dpm: i run stock kernel
[18:55] <popey> Linux deep-thought 3.16.0-25-generic #33-Ubuntu SMP Tue Nov 4 12:06:54 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[18:55] <belkinsa> mhall119, I don't mind it.
[18:55] <dpm> cool, ty
[19:51] <elfy> popey: did you forget to add your reply before you sent that mail :p
[19:51] <popey> keyboard fail
[19:52] <elfy> :)
[19:52] <pleia2> computers are hard
[19:52] <elfy> I heard that
[19:52] <popey> lets go shopping!
[19:52] <elfy> you're buying :p
[20:37] <popey> \o/ I know how to email
[20:38] <elfy> ha ha
[21:55] <czajkowski> wow so much mail and tweets to reply back to
[21:55] <czajkowski> ello all
[21:56] <popey> hah
[21:57] <czajkowski> I take your hah and reply with  Zzz
[21:57] <mhall119> czajkowski: have a strong drink ready before reading
[21:58] <czajkowski> so here's a thing I never  knew, some peopole post on the outside of a parcel in big letters what the items are inside. large pita when you're not here to collect and they get handed to the person who is getting them as a gift so they can see ;(
[21:59] <mhall119> that sounds like a pretty terrible idea all around
[21:59] <czajkowski> Jon saw his present he was getting, on the plus side he could tell me he didn't want it so that was nice
[21:59] <czajkowski> now trying to arrange sending back of a 3D printer :(
[21:59] <czajkowski> bleugh
[21:59] <mhall119> I can just imagine "Very valuable things inside, high resale potential, please don't open"
[22:00] <mhall119> but it's a 3d printer, he could *make* the things he wanted
[22:00] <popey> ☻
[22:00] <czajkowski> on the front marked in big bold size 20 font 3D printer
[22:00] <mhall119> honestly, I'm not sure the kind of person who would turn down a 3d printer is the right person for czajkowski ;)
[22:00] <czajkowski> turns out I got a gift wrong
[22:00] <czajkowski> it had to happen
[22:01] <popey> which one did you get OOI?
[22:01] <czajkowski> hmm
[22:01] <czajkowski> http://www.emakershop.com/browse/listing?l=1143
[22:01] <popey> oh nice!
[22:02] <popey> lot of work to put together tho
[22:02] <czajkowski> yup for all of them
[22:02] <czajkowski> oh well
[22:02] <czajkowski> back it goes
[22:03] <mhall119> somebody needs to create a bootstrap bot, who's only function is to automatically build a 3d printer
[22:03] <czajkowski> https://twitter.com/matthewrevell/status/541981237477658624  if you know of anyone let us know :D
[22:14] <jcastro> hey popey
[22:15] <jcastro> so, my hp microserver is gettign a bit long in the tooth, CPU-wise I mean
[22:15] <jcastro> so I ordered this node 304 case, and it's so well designed I can't shut up about it
[22:15] <jcastro> I'm going to just transplant the OS and storage drives right into it
[22:16] <popey> ooh!
[22:16] <popey> wat zat?
[22:16] <jcastro> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352027
[22:16] <jcastro> so intel makes this thing called a "20th Anniversary Pentium"
[22:17] <jcastro> which is like 60 dollars, and is haswell based, and is unlocked so you can OC it if you want
[22:17] <jcastro> so I got one and a cheap mobo, etc. to toss into this, it hold _6 drives_ in a mini itx case
[22:18] <jcastro> so I was looking at the new gen HP microservers
[22:19] <jcastro> but I ended up just getting the parts for much cheaper for one of these builds
[22:20] <popey> 6 bays!?
[22:20] <jcastro> popey, the newer HP microservers give you two options, one is an old ivy bridge desktop processor, the other is an expensive Xeon, there's no middle ground. :-/
[22:20] <jcastro> yeah, 6 bays, unbelivable
[22:20] <popey> also, HP are evil.
[22:21] <jcastro> I find pleia2 to be pleasant
[22:21] <popey> no firmware updates for you unless you pay for a support contract
[22:21] <popey> exceptions prove rules
[22:21] <jcastro> wow really?
[22:21] <popey> yeah
[22:21] <popey> thats the main reason I wont buy another HP machine
[22:21] <jcastro> the other problem with my hp, the disk io is just starting to really bother me
[22:21] <jcastro> I mean, it was relatively cheap
[22:21] <jcastro> but these days, I need more beefy IO to do stuff on it.
[22:22] <popey> yeah
[22:22] <popey> mine is feeling weedy too
[22:22] <jcastro> My only mistake is my mobo only has 4 sata ports
[22:22] <jcastro> so I got a 6 port esata pci-e card, but it was like 30 bucks
[22:38] <bkerensa> popey: mac minis is where its at... cheap and they run Linux
[22:38] <bkerensa> eck
[22:38] <bkerensa> jcastro: ^
[22:39] <jcastro> I don't see how 6 drives fit in that
[22:39] <pleia2> popey, jcastro - that's ok, hardware is hp inc, I'm hp corp ;)
[22:41] <pleia2> (really, I'm just hacking on openstack infra and hp what?)
[22:42] <bkerensa> pleia2: is your company not split yet?
[22:43] <bkerensa> I thought they were splitting into Printers/Cloud/PC
[22:43] <pleia2> bkerensa: it hasn't, but I pretend it has whenever anyone talks about hardware
[22:43] <bkerensa> hah
[22:43] <popey> ☻
[22:43] <pleia2> hp corp is cloud and business, hp inc is printers, servers, etc
[22:43] <pleia2> or at least, will be in a year or so
[22:43] <mhall119> s/inc/ink/ for maximum punnage
[22:44] <bkerensa> jcastro: why 6 drives? drop a 1TB in there and call it a day
[22:44] <jcastro> It's my NAS, it needs multiple drives, unless you see 12TB drives around?
[22:45] <popey> lulz
[22:45]  * popey has 12x2TB at home
[22:45] <popey> need one big-ass mac mini for that! :D
[22:46] <jcastro> I have 4x2TB laying around from my last NAS, I need to find a use for them
[22:46] <bkerensa> jcastro: that is a damn lot of data... I am using like less than 1% of a TB for photos and I have tens of thousands
[22:47] <bkerensa> popey: my NAS http://i.imgur.com/0QlKIBU.jpg
[22:47] <bkerensa> :D
[22:47] <bkerensa> NAS and Build Servers anyways
[23:17] <mhall119> jcastro: is there a way to "shutdown" a juju environment so that I can reclaim memory from these LXC containers I've got running?
[23:18] <mhall119> but in a way that lets me restart them without bootstrapping and re-deploying?
[23:18] <jcastro> I believe you can stop the LXC containers
[23:18] <jcastro> But sec, I dunno if that works
[23:18] <jcastro> marcoceppi, ^^^
[23:18] <marcoceppi> mhall119: you cah just do `sudo lxc-ls --fancy`
[23:18] <marcoceppi> then `sudo lxc-stop -n <conatiner name>`
[23:19] <marcoceppi> when  you're ready, just start each container up again
[23:19] <marcoceppi> they'll reregister, etc
[23:19] <marcoceppi> jcastro: we should just build a `juju-local` plugin
[23:19] <jcastro> marcoceppi, oh man, that'd be a nice plugin
[23:19] <jcastro> yeah
[23:19] <jcastro> juju pause
[23:19] <marcoceppi> so you can suspend, restart
[23:19] <marcoceppi> etc
[23:19] <jcastro> k, I'll file a bug for later
[23:19] <marcoceppi> the fact we don't have this yet is silly
[23:19]  * marcoceppi gets started
[23:20] <jcastro> marcoceppi, unrelated, don't forget brackets for udtc yo
[23:22] <jcastro> https://github.com/juju/plugins/issues/38
[23:22] <jcastro> mhall119, ^
[23:27] <mhall119> thanks jcastro
[23:27] <marcoceppi> jcastro: apparently I started this months ago and didn't get very far
[23:27] <marcoceppi> https://github.com/juju-solutions/juju-local
[23:27] <jcastro> lol
[23:27] <jcastro> man dude, post to the list
[23:27] <jcastro> first I mean
[23:27] <marcoceppi> dude it's just a readme
[23:28] <jcastro> oh, lol
[23:30] <mhall119> jcastro: how do I +1 that?
[23:31] <jcastro> not sure