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=== Goat is now known as Metacity
[02:57] <Sunstream> I still wonder how this happened all of a sudden font reader crash so I restarted it now all my darned icons are small
[02:57] <Sunstream> How do I restore them?
[02:58] <holstein> Sunstream: i still think, renaming ~/.confg is a great place to start
[02:58] <Sunstream> really?!
[02:58] <Sunstream> isnt there a menu item ?
[02:58] <holstein> Sunstream: i'll try as a different user, or the guest user, and see if its a system-wide issue, or just with my user
[02:58] <Sunstream> let me try guest
[02:59] <holstein> then, i'll just rename the config files..
[02:59] <Sunstream> how does this happen after the font reader crashes?
[02:59] <holstein> Sunstream: i dont know, friend. i dont use any font readers like that
[03:00] <holstein> Sunstream: i just deal with isolating the issue, from either inside my user, or system-wide, and address it
[03:03] <Sunstream> User I am going to log out and back in
[03:03] <Sunstream> isnt there a less drastic means other than killing the .config?
[03:03] <holstein> Sunstream: sure
[03:04] <holstein> Sunstream: see who did what, and undo it.. if you added a ppa or whatever
[03:04] <holstein> plus, i never said "kill" or "delete"
[03:04] <Sunstream> I did not even know I was using a font reader
[03:04] <holstein> nothing i mention is permanent
[03:04] <holstein> you rename, and test.. you can put back what you like, or revert
[03:04] <Sunstream> renaming is killing it (making it create a new file is the same)
[03:04] <Sunstream> Logging first
[03:05] <holstein> Sunstream: renaming is *not* killing it, friend
[03:06] <Unit193> Well, technically it is, but then you can "unkill" it too. :P
[03:06] <holstein> yeah.. its not deleting anything, thats for sure
[03:10] <Sunstream> Figured it out.. It was under "View" in a folder, once I saw normal size I though hmm maybe like a browzer. I fixed it
[03:10] <holstein> lol.. congrats!
[03:11] <Sunstream> Ya. Such silly features
[03:11] <Sunstream> huh?
[03:11] <holstein> Sunstream: congrats = congratulations
[03:12] <Sunstream> i no
[03:12] <Sunstream> no = know
[03:12] <holstein> you mean, "know"?
[03:12] <Sunstream> lol
[03:12] <holstein> ok :)
[03:12] <Sunstream> Anyways another question
[03:12] <Sunstream> I want to network my HDD and SSD
[03:13] <Sunstream> File sharing on Linux is new to me
[03:13] <holstein> "network" 2 hard drives?
[03:13] <holstein> how?
[03:13] <Sunstream> Yeah file sharing as the window people call
[03:13] <Sunstream> it is where you allow networked devices to access the files
[03:13] <holstein> Sunstream: the 2 hard drives *location* is important
[03:13] <Sunstream> like making my own cloud
[03:13] <holstein> if they are on the same machine, you dont need to "network" them
[03:14] <Sunstream> well
[03:14] <holstein> if they are on 2 different computers, then, you need them connected to *some* network, and elaborate about what you want them to do, and what os's they are running
[03:14] <Sunstream> let me add on I want both to be accessable to the network (persay a private NAS Cloud)
[03:14] <Sunstream> You are going to make me work on this
[03:14] <Sunstream> Okay
[03:15] <holstein> ?
[03:15] <holstein> i mean, you only mention 2 hard drives
[03:15] <Sunstream> I want to share my files on this desktop to my Tablet/smartphones
[03:15] <Sunstream> The hhds are on the laptop....
[03:15] <holstein> so, you can setup a server on the machine.. and you'll have to decide what you want as a client on the smartphones
[03:15] <Sunstream> that sounds too complicated
[03:15] <Sunstream> I am going to cheat
[03:16] <holstein> Sunstream: you actually wont
[03:16] <Sunstream> I am going to attempt to /dcc send my files
[03:16] <holstein> the server will be setup... you can do whatever you like
[03:16] <holstein> you *can* dcc.. one end is the server. the other the client.. but, *that* is too difficult
[03:17] <holstein> ftp servers and clients are usually pretty easy to setup, and work across all OS's.. as long as you are behind your firewall, that would work
[03:17] <holstein> !samba
[03:17] <ubottu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html
[03:19] <holstein> i say, ,just setup something like dropbox, and let it sync them..
[03:19] <holstein> there are clients for most devices/os's
[03:19] <Sunstream> I just said that
[03:20] <Sunstream> "onedrive"
[03:21] <holstein> Sunstream: dropbox has "good" support for all the os's you mention
[03:21] <holstein> onedrive doesnt
[03:21] <Sunstream> onedrive via browser will not work?
[03:21] <holstein> but, you dont need either..
[03:22] <holstein> Sunstream: onedrive, via "browser" doenst have anything to do with the 2 hard drives you mentioned wanting to share
[03:22] <Sunstream> Well
[03:22] <Sunstream> I just want to transfer 4 files
[03:22] <Sunstream> sharing would of been easier but
[03:23] <holstein> you can email themm to yourself.. use a USB stick.. ssh.. ftp. .samba.. bittorrentsync.. etc
[03:23] <Sunstream> small prob with the usb stick
[03:24] <Sunstream> cannot attach them to a tablet or smartphone without a cable that allows you to connect to the micro/mini usb port
[03:24] <holstein> Sunstream: thats why there is a list above.. if one doenst work for you, you have *many* other options
[03:24] <holstein> Sunstream: you *can* hook the phone/tablet via USB to the computer.. or, setup a server on them.. ftp
[03:25] <holstein> Sunstream: you just have to pick a path, and do it..
[03:25] <Sunstream> I just tried to hook my tablet up that way no go
[03:25] <Sunstream> Windows 8 is wierd
[03:25] <Sunstream> but I can my phone
[03:25] <holstein> if windows 8 wont mount it, load a live CD, and mount it in linux
[03:26] <holstein> you literaly just have to stop stopping, and make it happen
[03:26] <holstein> or, just install something like dropbox everywhere..
[03:26] <Sunstream> Now holstein
[03:26] <Sunstream> again
[03:26] <holstein> Sunstream: now what?
[03:26] <Sunstream> tablet...
[03:26] <Sunstream> cannot do a liveUSB
[03:26] <holstein> Sunstream: ok
[03:26] <Sunstream> I am just going to email it to myself there done.
[03:26] <holstein> Sunstream: i never said it would..
[03:26] <holstein> though.. it can..
[03:27] <Sunstream> kinda seems overboard to tansfer a zip file with 4 tiles in it
[03:27] <Sunstream> files
[03:27] <holstein> nothing about linux is preventing that.. anyways.. i *know* there is filezilla for win8
[03:27] <Sunstream> Why do you suggest that I do it in such comp;icated mannars (not dropbox)
[03:28] <holstein> Sunstream: im just giving options that will work
[03:28] <Sunstream> like the recent suggestion
[03:28] <Sunstream> Okay answer me this
[03:28] <holstein> Sunstream: like filezilla? thats a nice easy way to setup an ftp transfer.. its handy
[03:28] <Sunstream> firezilla
[03:28] <Sunstream> ...
[03:28] <holstein> *file* zilla
[03:28] <Sunstream> yeah that is what i ment
[03:29] <holstein> for windows8
[03:29] <holstein> i said that becuase you stated having issues with windows 8 and i *know* filezilla works there
[03:29] <Sunstream> I am not doing W8->Lin I am doing Lin->W8
[03:30] <holstein> great.. you can go either way with it
[03:30] <Sunstream> i have FZ on my system
[03:30] <Sunstream> but
[03:31] <Unit193> Wait, what's the question?
[03:31] <Sunstream> this is a client
[03:31] <holstein> Sunstream: this?
[03:31] <holstein> what "this" ?
[03:31] <Sunstream> The question my friend is trying to transfer a file to my W8 tablet
[03:32] <Sunstream> FZ seems to be a clinet
[03:32] <Sunstream> I give up
[03:32] <Sunstream> installing dropbox
[03:33] <holstein> Sunstream: there is a server portion..
[03:33] <Sunstream> Nevermind I am going to use dropbox
[03:33] <holstein> sure.. enjoy!
[03:35] <Sunstream> since I do not have any other simple means. Because if I was using windows I could easily share but linux is a different BEAST
[03:35] <holstein> s	?
[03:35] <holstein> !samba
[03:35] <ubottu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html
[03:35] <holstein> Sunstream: i mean, you can share with samba easily that way as well
[03:36] <holstein> you can use gigolo to connect to a windows share.. or many other ways
[03:36] <Sunstream> okay
[03:37] <Sunstream> I do not do this often enough to warrant a perm share
[03:37] <holstein> sure.. sounds great
[03:37] <Sunstream> so dropbox
[03:37] <holstein> well, that *is* a permenent deal..
[03:38] <Sunstream> not what I am transferring
[03:38] <Sunstream> Roms
[03:38] <Sunstream> for snes
[03:38] <holstein> Sunstream: the roms dont matter
[03:38] <Sunstream> It does if the creators whine about copyright
[03:38] <Sunstream> I bought these games in the past
[03:39] <holstein> sure.. its just moving the data im addressing.
[03:39] <holstein> the data doesnt matter
[03:40] <Sunstream> ... fine
[03:40] <Sunstream> but it is password encryped
[03:41] <holstein> sure.. do what you like with the data.. im just talking about moving it
[03:41] <Sunstream> I know.
[03:41] <holstein> and, addressing how, you stated, since it was just a one time thing, and you didnt want anyting permanent, you would just use dropbox.. but, dropbox *is* a permanent thing, as well
[03:41] <Sunstream> even if I delete it
[03:41] <holstein> and, has syncing, across other machines.. if thats what you want..
[03:41] <Sunstream> after getting it
[03:42] <holstein> i dont suggest setting up dropbox unless you want dropbox
[03:42] <holstein> no need to install it, move, sync, delete, uninstall. when, you can just share via ftp, or samba
[03:43] <Sunstream> now
[03:43] <Sunstream> I know what DB is
[03:43] <Sunstream> it is like Onedrive
[03:43] <holstein> similar, but, there is no desktop linux client for onedrive..
[03:49] <Sunstream> I hmmm
[03:49] <Sunstream> Sigh
[03:49] <Sunstream> got it
[03:49] <Sunstream> done
[03:50] <Sunstream> should of just cloud transfer
[03:51] <holstein> we were discussing "cloud" transfers
[03:53] <Sunstream> I have 13.28TBof cloud space
[03:55] <holstein> congrats!
[03:56] <Sunstream> correction 10.16 TB in cloud space, 2TB HHDs 240GB SSD for a total of 12.196TB of space.
[03:57] <Sunstream> It will take a very long time to fill that up lol
[03:57] <Sunstream> I want a NAS so I can share between every device
[03:58] <Sunstream> I have a 32, 8, 16, and 64GB microSDs and a 2gb, 16gb and 8gb of USB Sticks
[03:59] <holstein> NAS = network attached storage.. fire up a server on your network, and "attach" to it, and enjoy
[04:01] <Sunstream> NAS is supposed to be simple to set up
[04:02] <holstein> Sunstream: no.. the "s" is for "storage" , *not* "simple".. and "simple" is a matter of opinion, and familiarity
[04:02] <Sunstream> -_-
[04:02] <Sunstream> quit picking on the young linux guy :D
[04:02] <holstein> http://www.freenas.org/ is quite easy.. though, not linux based
[04:14] <Sunstream> Thanks for the help
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