| pleia2 | bkerensa: your message only went to me | 01:50 |
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| mhall119 | jcastro: you should get Reddit using the new reddit charm, their site has barely loaded all day | 02:16 |
| jose | mhall119: reddit charm?! where?! | 03:29 |
| mhall119 | jose: sabdfl mentioned it during his UOS session last month | 03:38 |
| jose | ah | 03:38 |
| czajkowski | aloha | 09:12 |
| czajkowski | just when I thought I had caught up on mail mre threds start with the same topics just a different subject :( | 09:13 |
| === tsimpson_ is now known as tsimpson | ||
| balloons | I agree, so many mailing list threads. They just continue to build in my inbox :-) | 13:54 |
| dholbach | I think we need a weekly meeting (at least for now) where people who have ideas and actionable proposals discuss them and people can congregate around ideas | 13:56 |
| popey | +1 | 13:57 |
| dholbach | maybe Friday? 15/16 UTC, usual meeting time? | 13:59 |
| czajkowski | +1 | 14:09 |
| czajkowski | lovely idea | 14:09 |
| belkinsa | dholbach, +1 for your idea | 14:14 |
| dholbach | mhall119, dpm, popey, balloons: ^ your thoughts? | 14:15 |
| dholbach | let me check the #u-meeting cal | 14:15 |
| dholbach | friday is free | 14:16 |
| dpm | dholbach, sounds good | 14:17 |
| dholbach | is 15 utc fine for you? 16 might be better right now for the us west coast | 14:17 |
| balloons | will it have an agenda? I fear more of the same unless you have an agenda of ideas and people coming to commit to them | 14:17 |
| dholbach | we could make it so that people who feel strongly about a topic or have a specific idea could add it to the agenda | 14:18 |
| dholbach | or bring a proposal from the list to the meeting, so we can invite lots of random people and see if they want to help out | 14:19 |
| dholbach | we could try to make it a hangout too | 14:19 |
| dholbach | if we feel we reach more people this way | 14:19 |
| mhall119 | dholbach: I share balloons' concerns, we should make the meeting topic about solutions and work items to avoid endless discussion of the problems | 14:38 |
| dholbach | mhall119, yes, that's what I meant | 14:38 |
| balloons | dholbach, my point is before you plan the date and time, you need to have a solid agenda. I think you could put one together so I don't think it's a barrier persay, but I would do it first | 14:43 |
| dholbach | ? | 14:43 |
| dholbach | I was planning to make this a permanent institution | 14:43 |
| dholbach | at least for the time being | 14:43 |
| balloons | ok.. I see it as temporary and as needed | 14:44 |
| dholbach | the list can stay around for discussion and generating ideas | 14:44 |
| dholbach | sure | 14:44 |
| dholbach | if the agenda is empty, no need to have a meeting | 14:44 |
| dholbach | if you want, we can have a chat in the Q&A later on :) | 14:44 |
| * balloons erases his response | 14:45 | |
| balloons | heh, I suppose this warrants discussion | 14:45 |
| * balloons rolls his eyes smiling | 14:45 | |
| dholbach | haha | 14:45 |
| * dholbach hugs balloons | 14:46 | |
| sotrdofthsstarwa | Is there a term for the group of Canonical + non-Canonical that together comprises the greater Ubuntu project? | 14:46 |
| dholbach | "Ubuntu community"? | 14:47 |
| mhall119 | ^^ that | 14:47 |
| sotrdofthsstarwa | No one really seems to be using that in the ML inclusively of Canonical | 14:47 |
| mhall119 | yeah, the problem is there is no single term for "Those in the Ubuntu community who are not employed by Canonical" | 14:48 |
| sotrdofthsstarwa | e.g. ben's phrase "This is something Ubuntu Community or Canonical" | 14:48 |
| balloons | sotrdofthsstarwa, interesting.. Do you differentiate? | 14:49 |
| mhall119 | so "community" is often used as shorthand for that | 14:49 |
| sotrdofthsstarwa | balloons, what do you mean by differentiate? | 14:49 |
| sotrdofthsstarwa | Oh, like do *I* personally see a difference? | 14:49 |
| balloons | sotrdofthsstarwa, yes.. when you say the ubuntu community, do you not mean include canonical in it? | 14:50 |
| mhall119 | so as dholbach said, "Ubuntu Community" properly defined everybody who participates in and contributes to the Ubuntu project, regardless of their employer | 14:50 |
| sotrdofthsstarwa | Before 10 minutes ago I would say no, but now I say yes | 14:50 |
| sotrdofthsstarwa | I suppose I might as well clarify wth I'm actually thinking about: | 14:50 |
| marcoceppi | jcastro: it's that time again, nest energy report is out | 14:50 |
| jcastro | marcoceppi, 10 leafs/ :( | 14:50 |
| marcoceppi | 28, stay warm jcastro | 14:51 |
| jcastro | ;_; | 14:51 |
| balloons | jcastro still not wearing enough hats @ home :-) | 14:51 |
| mhall119 | my A/C was on yesterday, my heater today, I couldn't compete with you guys | 14:51 |
| jcastro | we also were sick over the weekend so I _cranked_ it | 14:51 |
| sotrdofthsstarwa | A lot of people use phrases that isolate Canonical from the Ubuntu Community as a whole, Ben K being just one example. | 14:51 |
| balloons | I've seen him in gloves now, he's hardcore marcoceppi | 14:51 |
| marcoceppi | balloons: I know, he's trying to shard | 14:51 |
| mhall119 | sotrdofthsstarwa: I wouldn't use ben as a role model on that | 14:51 |
| sotrdofthsstarwa | mhall119, agreed, but he's just the example freshest in my mind | 14:52 |
| marcoceppi | jcastro: I've had the AC on all month, still haven't switched to heat | 14:52 |
| sotrdofthsstarwa | And really I just want to be able to use a phrase that's inclusive | 14:52 |
| sotrdofthsstarwa | Because it doesn't matter whether I'm fixing a documentation typo or Jorge C is hacking on juju or whatever, it's all Ubuntu | 14:53 |
| marcoceppi | jcastro: you also have like a million times the sqft that I do | 14:53 |
| mhall119 | sotrdofthsstarwa: "Ubuntu Community" is inclusive | 14:53 |
| jcastro | sotrdofthsstarwa, I just say "all contributors" | 14:53 |
| sotrdofthsstarwa | Anyway yeah, I like "Ubuntu Community" | 14:54 |
| sotrdofthsstarwa | Thanks all | 14:54 |
| mhall119 | speaking as a Canonical employee, I don't like being segregated when people use the term "community" as ben does | 14:54 |
| marcoceppi | me neither :( | 14:54 |
| sotrdofthsstarwa | FWIW, I think you all are doing great work and without it I wouldn't be able to buy a phone with Ubuntu on it so... you know... that's awesome | 14:55 |
| mhall119 | sotrdofthsstarwa: :) | 14:56 |
| balloons | I echo mhall119 here in that I mean everyone when I say community. | 14:56 |
| dholbach | +1 | 14:59 |
| nigelb | bkerensa: man, I'm jealous you didn't have to take a long flight back :P | 15:02 |
| sotrdofthsstarwa | Anyway, bottom line, words are powerful and help set framing for conversation participants. | 15:03 |
| jcastro | popey, my new hardware gets here today | 15:03 |
| jcastro | popey, but man, the design of the node304 has blown me away. | 15:04 |
| jcastro | rubber grommets built in for the drives for vibration/noise, channels to tuck in wires for neatness, an external fan switch to control all three fans' speeds. | 15:04 |
| dholbach | popey, balloons: shall I set up the hangout and ubuntuonair in a bit?= | 15:23 |
| balloons | dholbach, sure, thanks! | 15:25 |
| popey | dholbach: are we doing it again? | 15:29 |
| dholbach | popey, dpm pinged us about it? | 15:29 |
| dholbach | he said that Mike would be busy working on developer.u.c | 15:30 |
| popey | sorry, catching up with irc after being afk for 1 hour is surprisingly hard it seems | 15:30 |
| popey | ok | 15:30 |
| dpm | dholbach, I think it should be enough if there is two of us | 15:30 |
| dholbach | I replied that I was somewhat knackered after a long drive last night, but that I'd be up for it | 15:30 |
| dholbach | shall we play rock paper scissors to figure it out? :-) | 15:31 |
| popey | no, it's fine, I'll join ☻ | 15:31 |
| popey | now my PC spontaneously rebooted while I was afk, my webcam works again! | 15:31 |
| popey | \o/ Year of the Linux desktop! | 15:31 |
| balloons | wahoo! | 15:31 |
| balloons | it's self-correcting! | 15:31 |
| * balloons notes he is now redundant. Pc's fix themselves | 15:32 | |
| dholbach | balloons, enjoy your holidays | 15:32 |
| popey | ugh, just checked my webcam and I look like death | 15:36 |
| popey | flu \o/ | 15:36 |
| * dholbach hugs popey | 15:37 | |
| dholbach | all right... posted on Twitter | 15:44 |
| dholbach | FB is next | 15:44 |
| dholbach | can somebody do G+? | 15:44 |
| * popey does | 15:48 | |
| dholbach | <3 | 15:48 |
| popey | 184K members on the Ubuntu community on G+!?!?! | 15:49 |
| dholbach | I guess all your friends joined the Ubuntu community then? | 15:49 |
| popey | both of them did, yes. | 15:49 |
| dholbach | I thought that was the 184k :) | 15:50 |
| dholbach | everyone's popey's friend | 15:50 |
| popey | "They're not my friends, they're just people who owe me money" | 15:50 |
| dholbach | http://www.blogrebellen.de/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Last-Christmas-I-1.jpg | 15:52 |
| balloons | elfy, I was awaiting your reply :-) | 17:22 |
| balloons | hugs! | 17:22 |
| balloons | I know someone here, perhaps popey or elfy knows the answer to this. How can I get a nice email alias @ ubuntu.com? I'd like balloons naturally! | 17:25 |
| popey | !membership > balloons | 17:26 |
| ubot2 | balloons, please see my private message | 17:26 |
| popey | what's your launchpad nick? | 17:26 |
| balloons | nskaggs | 17:26 |
| popey | the default is that | 17:26 |
| popey | you can file an RT and ask for it maybe | 17:26 |
| balloons | popey, so by default though I should have one.. hmm.. afaik, I don't have any | 17:29 |
| popey | you do | 17:30 |
| popey | nskaggs@ubuntu.com | 17:30 |
| popey | thats the default for all ubuntu members | 17:30 |
| balloons | popey, mind emailing me there and seeing if it shows? self-mailing doesn't bring anything to me | 17:31 |
| popey | already done | 17:32 |
| elfy | I did :) | 17:32 |
| elfy | ha ha | 17:32 |
| balloons | lol.. boom, I see it | 17:32 |
| balloons | thanks guys! | 17:32 |
| elfy | balloons: if you send from gmail I think it goes bang somewhere out over the Atlantic | 17:32 |
| popey | #hehe | 17:36 |
| dholbach | all right my friends - I call it a day - see you all tomorrow! | 17:51 |
| * belkinsa hugs dholbach | 17:51 | |
| * dholbach hugs belkinsa back :) | 17:51 | |
| elfy | cya dholbach | 17:52 |
| elfy | and hi belkinsa :) | 17:52 |
| dholbach | bye elfy :) | 17:52 |
| belkinsa | o/ elfy | 17:52 |
| belkinsa | popey, did you e-mail UW Mailing-list on how to get invoulved in Ubuntu Phone Project? | 18:55 |
| popey | not yet. | 19:01 |
| popey | thanks for the reminder | 19:01 |
| belkinsa | Okay. | 19:02 |
| jose | balloons: ping, to confirm who'll be hosting the session tomorrow | 19:03 |
| balloons | jose, unless popey wants to join me, it'll be me as the one man show | 19:23 |
| jose | ack | 19:24 |
| popey | I can't. it's podcast night. | 19:24 |
| balloons | popey, heh, you'd be bored anyway :-) | 20:38 |
| popey | haha | 20:38 |
| balloons | <3 | 20:38 |
| popey | no no no! | 20:38 |
| popey | everyone loves autopilot | 20:38 |
| popey | even me........zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz | 20:38 |
| popey | sorry, whuh? | 20:38 |
| balloons | you love it.. But listening to me drone one about it while screencasting; probably not so much | 20:38 |
| balloons | now salem could always use the screentime. Might make it more palatable :-) | 20:39 |
| popey | :D | 20:39 |
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