[01:50] bkerensa: your message only went to me [02:16] jcastro: you should get Reddit using the new reddit charm, their site has barely loaded all day [03:29] mhall119: reddit charm?! where?! [03:38] jose: sabdfl mentioned it during his UOS session last month [03:38] ah [09:12] aloha [09:13] just when I thought I had caught up on mail mre threds start with the same topics just a different subject :( === tsimpson_ is now known as tsimpson [13:54] I agree, so many mailing list threads. They just continue to build in my inbox :-) [13:56] I think we need a weekly meeting (at least for now) where people who have ideas and actionable proposals discuss them and people can congregate around ideas [13:57] +1 [13:59] maybe Friday? 15/16 UTC, usual meeting time? [14:09] +1 [14:09] lovely idea [14:14] dholbach, +1 for your idea [14:15] mhall119, dpm, popey, balloons: ^ your thoughts? [14:15] let me check the #u-meeting cal [14:16] friday is free [14:17] dholbach, sounds good [14:17] is 15 utc fine for you? 16 might be better right now for the us west coast [14:17] will it have an agenda? I fear more of the same unless you have an agenda of ideas and people coming to commit to them [14:18] we could make it so that people who feel strongly about a topic or have a specific idea could add it to the agenda [14:19] or bring a proposal from the list to the meeting, so we can invite lots of random people and see if they want to help out [14:19] we could try to make it a hangout too [14:19] if we feel we reach more people this way [14:38] dholbach: I share balloons' concerns, we should make the meeting topic about solutions and work items to avoid endless discussion of the problems [14:38] mhall119, yes, that's what I meant [14:43] dholbach, my point is before you plan the date and time, you need to have a solid agenda. I think you could put one together so I don't think it's a barrier persay, but I would do it first [14:43] ? [14:43] I was planning to make this a permanent institution [14:43] at least for the time being [14:44] ok.. I see it as temporary and as needed [14:44] the list can stay around for discussion and generating ideas [14:44] sure [14:44] if the agenda is empty, no need to have a meeting [14:44] if you want, we can have a chat in the Q&A later on :) [14:45] * balloons erases his response [14:45] heh, I suppose this warrants discussion [14:45] * balloons rolls his eyes smiling [14:45] haha [14:46] * dholbach hugs balloons [14:46] Is there a term for the group of Canonical + non-Canonical that together comprises the greater Ubuntu project? [14:47] "Ubuntu community"? [14:47] ^^ that [14:47] No one really seems to be using that in the ML inclusively of Canonical [14:48] yeah, the problem is there is no single term for "Those in the Ubuntu community who are not employed by Canonical" [14:48] e.g. ben's phrase "This is something Ubuntu Community or Canonical" [14:49] sotrdofthsstarwa, interesting.. Do you differentiate? [14:49] so "community" is often used as shorthand for that [14:49] balloons, what do you mean by differentiate? [14:49] Oh, like do *I* personally see a difference? [14:50] sotrdofthsstarwa, yes.. when you say the ubuntu community, do you not mean include canonical in it? [14:50] so as dholbach said, "Ubuntu Community" properly defined everybody who participates in and contributes to the Ubuntu project, regardless of their employer [14:50] Before 10 minutes ago I would say no, but now I say yes [14:50] I suppose I might as well clarify wth I'm actually thinking about: [14:50] jcastro: it's that time again, nest energy report is out [14:50] marcoceppi, 10 leafs/ :( [14:51] 28, stay warm jcastro [14:51] ;_; [14:51] jcastro still not wearing enough hats @ home :-) [14:51] my A/C was on yesterday, my heater today, I couldn't compete with you guys [14:51] we also were sick over the weekend so I _cranked_ it [14:51] A lot of people use phrases that isolate Canonical from the Ubuntu Community as a whole, Ben K being just one example. [14:51] I've seen him in gloves now, he's hardcore marcoceppi [14:51] balloons: I know, he's trying to shard [14:51] sotrdofthsstarwa: I wouldn't use ben as a role model on that [14:52] mhall119, agreed, but he's just the example freshest in my mind [14:52] jcastro: I've had the AC on all month, still haven't switched to heat [14:52] And really I just want to be able to use a phrase that's inclusive [14:53] Because it doesn't matter whether I'm fixing a documentation typo or Jorge C is hacking on juju or whatever, it's all Ubuntu [14:53] jcastro: you also have like a million times the sqft that I do [14:53] sotrdofthsstarwa: "Ubuntu Community" is inclusive [14:53] sotrdofthsstarwa, I just say "all contributors" [14:54] Anyway yeah, I like "Ubuntu Community" [14:54] Thanks all [14:54] speaking as a Canonical employee, I don't like being segregated when people use the term "community" as ben does [14:54] me neither :( [14:55] FWIW, I think you all are doing great work and without it I wouldn't be able to buy a phone with Ubuntu on it so... you know... that's awesome [14:56] sotrdofthsstarwa: :) [14:56] I echo mhall119 here in that I mean everyone when I say community. [14:59] +1 [15:02] bkerensa: man, I'm jealous you didn't have to take a long flight back :P [15:03] Anyway, bottom line, words are powerful and help set framing for conversation participants. [15:03] popey, my new hardware gets here today [15:04] popey, but man, the design of the node304 has blown me away. [15:04] rubber grommets built in for the drives for vibration/noise, channels to tuck in wires for neatness, an external fan switch to control all three fans' speeds. [15:23] popey, balloons: shall I set up the hangout and ubuntuonair in a bit?= [15:25] dholbach, sure, thanks! [15:29] dholbach: are we doing it again? [15:29] popey, dpm pinged us about it? [15:30] he said that Mike would be busy working on developer.u.c [15:30] sorry, catching up with irc after being afk for 1 hour is surprisingly hard it seems [15:30] ok [15:30] dholbach, I think it should be enough if there is two of us [15:30] I replied that I was somewhat knackered after a long drive last night, but that I'd be up for it [15:31] shall we play rock paper scissors to figure it out? :-) [15:31] no, it's fine, I'll join ☻ [15:31] now my PC spontaneously rebooted while I was afk, my webcam works again! [15:31] \o/ Year of the Linux desktop! [15:31] wahoo! [15:31] it's self-correcting! [15:32] * balloons notes he is now redundant. Pc's fix themselves [15:32] balloons, enjoy your holidays [15:36] ugh, just checked my webcam and I look like death [15:36] flu \o/ [15:37] * dholbach hugs popey [15:44] all right... posted on Twitter [15:44] FB is next [15:44] can somebody do G+? [15:48] * popey does [15:48] <3 [15:49] 184K members on the Ubuntu community on G+!?!?! [15:49] I guess all your friends joined the Ubuntu community then? [15:49] both of them did, yes. [15:50] I thought that was the 184k :) [15:50] everyone's popey's friend [15:50] "They're not my friends, they're just people who owe me money" [15:52] http://www.blogrebellen.de/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Last-Christmas-I-1.jpg [17:22] elfy, I was awaiting your reply :-) [17:22] hugs! [17:25] I know someone here, perhaps popey or elfy knows the answer to this. How can I get a nice email alias @ ubuntu.com? I'd like balloons naturally! [17:26] !membership > balloons [17:26] balloons, please see my private message [17:26] what's your launchpad nick? [17:26] nskaggs [17:26] the default is that [17:26] you can file an RT and ask for it maybe [17:29] popey, so by default though I should have one.. hmm.. afaik, I don't have any [17:30] you do [17:30] nskaggs@ubuntu.com [17:30] thats the default for all ubuntu members [17:31] popey, mind emailing me there and seeing if it shows? self-mailing doesn't bring anything to me [17:32] already done [17:32] I did :) [17:32] ha ha [17:32] lol.. boom, I see it [17:32] thanks guys! [17:32] balloons: if you send from gmail I think it goes bang somewhere out over the Atlantic [17:36] #hehe [17:51] all right my friends - I call it a day - see you all tomorrow! [17:51] * belkinsa hugs dholbach [17:51] * dholbach hugs belkinsa back :) [17:52] cya dholbach [17:52] and hi belkinsa :) [17:52] bye elfy :) [17:52] o/ elfy [18:55] popey, did you e-mail UW Mailing-list on how to get invoulved in Ubuntu Phone Project? [19:01] not yet. [19:01] thanks for the reminder [19:02] Okay. [19:03] balloons: ping, to confirm who'll be hosting the session tomorrow [19:23] jose, unless popey wants to join me, it'll be me as the one man show [19:24] ack [19:24] I can't. it's podcast night. [20:38] popey, heh, you'd be bored anyway :-) [20:38] haha [20:38] <3 [20:38] no no no! [20:38] everyone loves autopilot [20:38] even me........zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz [20:38] sorry, whuh? [20:38] you love it.. But listening to me drone one about it while screencasting; probably not so much [20:39] now salem could always use the screentime. Might make it more palatable :-) [20:39] :D === dpm is now known as dpm-afk