[00:07] I changed tack and went for wanna-build because it's better: http://buildd.pibuntu.org/architecture.php?a=armhf&suite=trusty [00:07] :-) [00:07] I'm still learning how to work it though [00:08] i spent all day writing a loading screen [00:09] and it's only displayed for 1 frame [00:15] dang [01:16] diddledan: what's this for? [01:22] (the armhf build) [01:23] daftykins, raspberry pi [01:23] ah it is [01:23] what's chugging away at it for you? [01:23] just one box atm - a quad-core xeon [01:24] rawr! [01:24] (with hyperthreading, but that's meh) [01:24] is there any way you can plug more into it from a home connection 0o [01:25] there's that possibility, yes [01:26] it's on the first run-through of several which are pretty hands-on to get the system bootstrapped [01:26] several!? [01:27] I need to compile against the pi processor specs to begin with and then I need to build a new chroot based on those files and redo the compilation self-hosted, and then ideally do the same again a third time to be sure everything is referencing pi-compatible binaries [01:28] the first run-through is compiling against non-pi-compatible binaries so anything that statically compiles will be no use on the pi [01:29] the second run based entirely on my own repo should be more compatible, and a third run seals the deal [01:31] :) [01:31] I'm trying to work out how to get the logs showing in that status page [01:31] presumably you never heard an update on one of the alan's pi cluster project? [01:31] it's saving the logs to the right place but seems to be putting the wrong timestamp in the database [01:31] I donated to that [01:32] I'm hoping that any work I do now will be able to help him get bootstrapped a bit quicker when he gets it running [01:35] he certainly gets a +1 for the rack of pis he has: http://libertos.org/ [01:42] yeah, yet we've heard nothing :( [01:46] I've not seen him about in here or on mailing lists much either [01:47] seems to have retired from IRC 0o [01:52] lol @ australia: Northern Territory Police Force [01:52] Just after 3pm a report was received that there was a burning smell and smoke coming from the front of a house in Bonson Tce Moulden. Fire Brigade attended and determined that there was a burning tyre in the driveway and the residents were trying to cook eggs over it. [01:53] Apart from the fact that it is unlawful to light fires in urban areas it surely must be recognised that burning rubber is not an appropriate heat source for cooking. Or for positive neighbourly relations. And its dangerous. [02:03] people are not smart [02:05] I've heard it said that a person is intelligent. people are stupid. [02:05] i.e. it depends on whether you're talking individually or plurally [02:07] I've not had a reply from my spamm0r yet [02:12] :( [02:25] i think the rule of thumb is the number of people over the iq of the dumbest person is the average iq of a group [02:30] humans are simple. just turn them off and back on again .. [02:31] https://www.dropbox.com/s/rng8bgrn2v92pi2/stock.JPG?dl=0 [02:31] :P [02:32] £10 for a 2kW heater with 1 year warranty, or £27 for a 3kW heater with 3 year warranty [02:37] * zmoylan-pi wonders why a heater only gets a 1 year warranty... [02:41] they don't have much confidence eh? :D [02:47] https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10636329_1117344994961619_4188310716858277202_n.jpg?oh=6693ae31cba47a93f3c78c797a97a2fe&oe=54FB226E&__gda__=1426343428_0829bac2fead9e47131b77f93dc03ca1 [02:47] https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10857864_894716910547643_1931540256957994308_n.jpg?oh=321f09247aea5951263a5e7061f7da68&oe=54FF1989&__gda__=1427889493_e7cdc8d3f0f63d05148aadbca752a507 [02:48] yey, christmas! [02:59] it'd be the parent company having shares in insurance companies that would trouble me [03:12] 1yr's pretty standard most places [03:16] damn, I just locked-up [03:34] yo [03:34] a lot of bad things appen to real good people:( [03:42] mapps: oh? [03:44] hey [03:44] just in a bad mood [03:44] my mum died on the 8th december and noone cares [03:45] ruined my life:D === zmoylan-1i is now known as zmoylan-pi [03:49] yesterday? [03:49] yes [03:49] sorry to hear that mate :( [03:49] thats ok [03:49] its life [03:49] been trying toi deal with t for 14 years [03:49] ;p [03:50] i hate smoking [03:50] i hate drinking [03:50] but i cant help it:( [03:51] i guess there are those that have more addictive personalities, but surely you can kick it if you really want rid? [03:52] sure [03:52] but what did i do to deserve this [03:52] no family at all [03:52] you started drinking and smoking despite everyone telling you they were addictive? [03:53] almost yes [03:53] after mum died [03:53] evervything went downhill [03:57] were your parents together at the time? [04:03] of course [04:04] we arent council estate:D [04:04] lol, happens everywhere over here [04:04] my dad loved my mum [04:04] but mum couldnt help herself [04:04] she wasa 40 a day-er [04:05] and it eventually caught her out:( [04:05] :( [04:06] thats lie eh [04:06] *life [04:07] no matter what money people have..stuff happens [04:07] it sure is. my brother's mother in law dropped dead of a brain clot in the middle of school [04:07] (she was a teacher) [04:07] i remember going and seeing mum on the stretchr in a&e [04:07] talking rubbish and being weird (shed had a stoke) [04:09] aaah yeah i saw my gran after something similar [04:09] ruined my life tbh [04:09] kinda frightening to see [04:09] when i was at uni and peoples mums coming....no mum here [04:10] what can you dio though [04:10] :( [04:10] just care for ourselves and the ones we still have, tbh [04:11] * diddledan hugs everyone [04:14] yep [04:14] diddledan: d'aww [04:14] mapps: and that means we're gonna start rationing your cigarettes young man :P [04:14] spent far too many hours in a&e for a 30 year old [04:14] sure [04:15] might help me [04:15] hehe, i joke i don't wanna tell you what to do. [04:15] oh from visiting? [04:15] jesus christ [04:15] il be dead by 40 [04:15] it was definitely an experience for me, being in there [04:15] no matter how much weighs i do or spinning [04:16] i smoke 30 a day and have a drink problem [04:16] it wont end well;p [04:23] my vices are not sorting my life out [04:23] so i know how it is to feel pretty powerless to things [04:23] I'm apathetic [04:24] toward the pitfalls of life? [04:24] toward life in general [04:25] mmm [04:25] I regularly bury my head [04:25] you're making a good go of it though, with work :D [04:26] the money helps ;-) [06:10] nn sirs \o [06:22] nn [06:22] another 30fags and 12 pints later [06:22] guess its bed time [06:22] :) [06:23] i must average like 30pints a week..for the last 8years [06:23] kinda bad === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [07:47] hello all === Ocean is now known as Guest27929 [08:03] thanks in advance. can any one help in creating a multiboot live dvd(with multiple isos in it) [08:09] thanks in advance. can any one help in creating a multiboot live dvd(with multiple isos in it) [08:10] http://www.sarducd.it/multiboot-dvd-builder.html [08:11] http://www.webupd8.org/2010/02/multicd-builds-multi-boot-cd-dvd-with.html [08:11] https://superuser.com/questions/116106/multiboot-dvd-with-live-cds [08:11] take your pic, loads of tutorials on google on how to do it :D === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [08:42] MooDoo, thanks. i tried to use this script. i amnot sure if kali linux is supported with this script. i am not good with command line [08:49] I think you'll just have to scour the internet for a tutorial, and if someone here knows a better way, i'm sure they will read this conversation and say something :D [09:03] MooDoo, lol [09:16] Good morning all; happy International Anti-corruption Day! :-D === MooDoo is now known as Guest71472 === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte === Guest71472 is now known as MooDoo === tsimpson_ is now known as tsimpson [10:21] morningtons [10:23] morning [10:31] Dammed Google, changing the swipe to unlock from horizontal to vertical with the Lollipop update, its going take me months to overcome horizontal swiping muscle memory [10:33] wonders if he will ever get an OTA update for next [10:36] what device? [10:37] motog original. allegedly its coming... [10:37] can't imagine I'll ever get lollipop on the hudl [10:37] "coming soon" [10:37] With the update rolling out, the first-generation Moto G becomes the most affordable smartphone to run Android 5.0 Lollipop in India. [10:38] 1989 root 20 0 732496 204784 142456 R 79.3 1.3 1931:58 Xorg [10:38] * popey wonders what xorg is _doing_ [10:38] chewing [10:38] laptop is crawling [10:38] * popey kills off firefox [10:40] morning boys and girls. [10:42] Hi all am still struggling with a login loop on Xubuntu. I have found a possible solution at [10:43] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1876605 [10:43] This is in the second comment, however I don't know what the Xauthority file should be like [10:43] check quota/disk space? [10:43] Is anyone willing to help [10:44] I can't log in, so I have to use the terminal via ctrl +alt +f1 [10:45] foolery, please give me the entire command as it should be entered [10:45] df -h [10:45] also tail -100 ~/.xsession-errors [10:47] How do I get it to pastebin from the terminal? [10:47] there is a package called pastebinit [10:47] so you pipe output to pastebin if it doesn't contain senstive data [10:47] df -h | pastebinit [10:48] Don't have a pipe key [10:48] Any option? [10:48] df -h > /tmp/file.txt [10:49] pastebinit -i /tmp/file.txt [10:50] no such file in director [10:50] Anyway the highest disk usage is 34‰ [10:51] So it's not the disk space. I have a log in loop [10:51] I think [10:51] well if X is crashing [10:51] then .xsession-errors file [10:52] will have useful stuff [10:52] you can pastebin that too [10:52] do you actually have pastebinit installed? [10:52] Yes [10:52] I checked :) [10:53] The issue is the lack of a pipe key [10:53] I need to sort that out as soon as I log in because it keeps troubling me [10:53] pastebinit -i $HOME/.xsession-errors [10:54] lack of pipe usually means wrong keyboard language, it is usually there somewhere [10:54] Also says no such file in directory [10:55] Also there is no command called tail-100 [10:56] I need to surrender to an American format keyboard, that's all. [10:57] The lack of a £ key drives me mad [10:57] Will sort that out in a minute. Need to log in first [10:59] Foobarry then last command returned an error, Xsession-errors not found. I am running Xubuntu if that's relevant [11:11] Foobarry I reinstalled Xubuntu-default-settings [11:11] Now it logs in for 1 second and goes back on the loop [11:16] tail -100 [11:16] has a space [11:16] if the commands don't work i suspect you are typing them wrong [11:19] Okay [11:19] Will start again [11:19] #xubuntu channel might also be able to help [11:22] I posted there too foobarry [11:22] Right am on the phone so the links are 9440368 and 9440383 [11:22] You need to key in the whole link please [11:24] http://paste.ubuntu.com/9440383/ [11:25] http://paste.ubuntu.com/9440368/ [11:25] i nkow what the problem is [11:25] when you backed up your home directory you didnt copy any hidden files [11:26] What is the issue with . Profile [11:26] I didn't work off a back up. I made a fresh install, then when it was complete, manually copied it over, you think maybe it's using the old file? [11:27] Either way the system was also Xubuntu 14.04 [11:28] I thought about doing a fresh install again, but then figured this might happen again, at a very inconvenient time and I won't know what to do to fix it [11:31] either .profile doesn't exist or you don't have permissions to open it [11:33] ls -al will show you who owns the files [11:40] foobarry ls -al just listed the files in the home directory, ls -lah worked [11:40] The file is owned by root [11:41] Which is probably the problem isn't it supposed to be owned by safiyyah? [11:41] yes [11:41] and lots of other file too [11:41] sudo chown -R safiyyah:safiyyah /home/safiyyah [11:42] will change owner of all the files in /home/safiyyah [11:42] AHHHHHH, I know how I created this problem! [11:43] you copied all the files as root [11:43] cp -rp retains permissions [11:43] Yep [11:43] Used gksudo thunar [11:45] Well at least this was my own fault and not a hardware fault. I just recovered from a dead hard disk [11:46] Oh my goodness, well lesson learnt, I am grateful [11:46] Thank you guys [11:47] did you fix it? [11:48] easy mistake to make [11:49] i like to use cp -a [11:49] but when copying files betwween installs watch out for changed UIDs [11:49] this usually won't happen if you only have one user though === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [11:50] Foobarry yes it's fixed [11:50] Thank you [11:50] I inky had one user. Hadn't even added the kids account yet [11:50] Only* [11:51] Smart phone is a life saver because I normally also disable the guest account [11:51] I have a little boy who likes to wake up at 5am to play games [11:51] So guest must be disabled [11:53] Right it's time to sort my graphics out. I was locked out couldn't finish up with the installation, plus was out getting other things done. So am still here, if I get stuck [11:54] Popey you work for them, please out a suggestion forward that the software centre accounts should remember what software I have downloaded in the past. It really helps. [11:55] My hard drive died just a month after I upgraded to 14.04 and I had the system JUUuuussstttt right. I don't remember half the stuff I had on emperor the kids [11:57] i thought software centre did do that? [11:58] there's a couple of menu options [11:58] let me log in and see, cos as far as I know it doesn't [12:01] Popey, found it, it's not user friendly though. But it's fine for geeky people.... If you know what I mean. Well I learnt something new again... Again [12:01] Thank you [12:01] np === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [12:07] Foobarry cp -rp is that possible with a graphical gksudo thunar /nautilus? [12:07] i don't know [12:08] Hmm okay [12:09] Well it's duely noted, would have saved myself a lot of trouble [12:10] best to follow a tutorial online for this stuff [12:13] Meeeh just did what I usually do and it bit back === MooDoo is now known as Guest44093 === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [13:00] Good morning peeps :) [13:02] evening [13:06] bigcalm: what time do you call this ;) [13:06] time for irc to invent a time neutral greeting standard :-) [13:06] hello mammals o/ [13:07] Morning is the UGT :) [13:08] It may be '13:08 GMT' but it's always 'Morning UGT' [13:09] "moin" is the time neutral greeting [13:09] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moin "Moin is used at all times of day, not just in the morning" === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [13:23] * zmoylan-pi thinks bells ahoy hoy never got a fair shake [13:47] Freenode actually has a FAQ about that, and bigcalm is correct :) [13:48] \o/ [13:48] https://freenode.net/faq.shtml#fst [13:48] and like all faq's no one seems to have read it so internet standard is maintained \o/ :-D [13:48] Its morning when you become active [13:49] zmoylan-pi: I must be the only one thats ever read it, I think I must have been looking for something else a while back and saw it by accident [13:49] pageviews:1 [13:49] i read a bit [13:50] the alternative, would be to just say: hello [13:50] pageviews: 1.5 [13:50] Or just be a teenager and "grunt" on IRC [13:51] Wonder how Harry Enfields "Kevin" would say morning on IRC [13:51] oi === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [13:53] Hello Mrs Patterson. [13:56] Kevin wouldn't say that. She's his mum [13:56] Perry would be more likely to say it [13:57] his mum isnt here [13:57] making it doubly confusing === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [14:47] for me, it's morning until I've had two cups of coffee, regardless of locally aligned chronometers [14:53] what happens when an out of coffee error occurs? [14:55] that's an uncaught exception :/ [14:59] some sort of cap with 'bring coffee' written on the top... [15:34] Like those restaurants where you have a coloured beermat [15:34] One side red [15:34] One side greed [15:35] s/eed/een/ [15:35] Red means "bring meat" [15:35] (Argentinian meat sword restaurants) [15:36] Crikey the Nexus 5 is cheap now [15:36] from 239.99 [15:36] morning [15:36] o/ [15:36] hi daftykins [15:37] what-o sir [15:37] how are we all doing this fine afternoon? [15:40] good thanking ye. you? [15:40] pretty cold and wet here, and im hungry, and i need a cuppa, but .. good. [15:41] mmm yeah not bad ta :D [15:41] seems i'm gonna move the boss to O2 instead of vodafone for his international phone (includes the UK) [15:41] apparently voda have been seriously sucking around London for a while now 0o [15:41] gonna buy him a Galaxy Note 3 as well, i know the 4 is out but damn is it pricey [15:41] i use vodafone [15:41] oneplus one is meant to be good [15:41] no problems i take it? :D [15:42] mmm, i had one but... meh [15:42] yeah i use it in the city, and at home, and in remote places (arse end cornwall, another-orafice-nottinghamshire), and err the US [15:42] vodafone that is. i'm an iphone user. [15:43] what happened to the "visual voicemail" thing that apple touted with the very original iphone? [15:43] arsenip: he's probably just ducking under the nearest granite wall for every call XD [15:44] a lot of phone companies didn't want to pay apple to use that [15:44] sounds like a good idea diddledan [15:44] maybe daftykins - there are always deadzones.. and if it lines up with your office you'll have a bad time [15:45] the city is always a bit parp for phones due to all the buildings etc [15:45] you get random/interesting behaviour. [15:45] *nod* [15:45] diddledan: very little. It needs the operator to support it. and they quickly discovered that if they don't, they still sell contracts [15:45] arsenip: i didn't hugely believe him for a bit, but he's after change... so with a new contract, provider and phone - he'll be able to run both side by side and compare :) [15:46] i find 4g helps. [15:46] i find switching to 2g gets me data no matter where or when [15:47] lol [15:47] that failed down in a valley for me [15:47] https://www.dropbox.com/sh/fz006ibpbygcj3y/AACw5Fqaal0DQqRW66-yis8-a?dl=0 [15:47] the dudes behind iron sky are getting crazy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PM13yXlW-Vs [15:47] couldn't even upload one pic from down there :D [15:48] their other crazyness - hitler riding a dinosaur [15:49] instant godwin and dinosaurs 'n' humans driving the paleontoligists bonkers fun :-) [15:50] diddledan: have you seen 'dead snow'? [15:50] nope [15:50] it's terrible. well worth looking for if you found iron sky funny :) [15:51] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKPwtDjzJMI === jpds is now known as Guest86457 [16:46] oh wow, snappy looks great === Hornet- is now known as Hornet [17:02] snap snap [17:04] so in a click package you bundle anything that isn't in a base ubuntu system, in a snappy package you effectively ship an entire virtual machine? [17:04] distro and everything [17:04] nooot quite, for what I can tell [17:05] because you only need to include the bare minimum to make your app work [17:05] yes [17:05] so glibc, libx11, gtk... [17:07] I've not worked out yet how to start this owncloud instance I have installed [17:14] well I tell you, having ubuntu core would make my support job so much easier [17:16] especially when I can tell customers to have different snappy packages for apache/nginx, php-fpm and mysql [17:16] you could even make those packages and upload them to the store. [17:16] snappy? [17:17] linky? [17:17] that's be great to have officially supported rackspace snappy packages [17:17] I assume that this snappy thing is open sourcy [17:17] it's stop users from doing their own crazy stuff [17:17] diddledan, : http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud/tools/snappy [17:18] Oooh, transactional package updates [17:18] dingding [17:18] oh heh, the services actually started automatically. [17:18] well that is cool [17:18] a magento snappy stack would make life *SO* easy [17:18] I don't know what transactional updating means [17:19] transactional means it either completely finishes or doesn't happen at all [17:19] I guess it means you can roll back [17:19] aah [17:19] like a database transaction [17:19] dang, that's cool [17:19] no more dpkg hell [17:20] I suppose that's tech borrowed from the image-updating of touch? [17:20] yes [17:20] I for one am totally excited [17:20] keep up the ballin' work [17:20] what i don't understand is if you isolate all the applications, then how does the web server talk to php and how does php talk to the database? [17:21] apparmor profiles which allow networking [17:21] or to give another example, how do you allow your IDE and your compiler to access the same files? [17:21] interesting that azure is the first provider to be on-boarded [17:21] (interesting because it shows ms' new attitude to opensource and linux) [17:22] their whole "we love linux" is really being pushed home these days [17:22] you run your ide in the cloud? [17:22] no but i might run it on my phone [17:22] content-hub [17:22] you can share data between apps [17:23] how is gcc supposed to talk to content hub? [17:23] or bundle the compiler with the ide.. [17:23] dunno, one for #snappy ☻ [17:23] if i make a click package with gcc that rns it in a terminal, won't it just immediately exit with "no input files"? [17:25] snappy sounds interesting [17:26] ali1234, but you would be able to listen to any files imported over content-hub? [17:27] what does that even mean? [17:28] ali1234, files are exported from one app to another over content-hub ... you would be able to detect when they have been 'imported' into your app [17:28] let's assume that my editor is nano, by compiler is gcc, and my project build system is make [17:29] none of those support content-hub [17:29] ali1234, but your wrapper would? [17:29] so when i run make, what happens? [17:30] ali1234, i'm talking from a phone point of view... but if you could import all the files via content-hub hub then you could run make in the imported directory...and then even export the binary if you wanted? [17:31] ali1234, docs here if your interested http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/sdk-1.0/Ubuntu.Content.index/ [17:31] so essentially i would create a directory somehow, and then export it to the editor, make, gcc, and then everything would just work as normal? [17:31] popey, so will snappy have similar apparmor things to we have on touch? [17:31] dunno, it's new to me too ☻ [17:32] has it been secret internally, too? :-) [17:33] i kind of get the feeling it was developed in response to the owncloud problems last month [17:33] perhaps there is a vanguard [17:33] ali1234, possibly... for example in music...if you go to the web browser download a mp3 and then select to "open with music" it then puts the file into a folder called HubIncoming/some number/ folder which you can r/w to .. we then move it into ~/Music but i guess you could then run make, gcc in that directory? [17:33] I must say I like what canonical are doing with ubuntu - I get that it alienates some folk but they're stuck in the mud [17:34] i agree if you focus on main ubuntu [17:34] * bashrc rolls in mud [17:34]