| rmg51 | Morning | 10:39 |
|---|---|---|
| JonathanD | Morning. | 11:54 |
| teddy-dbear | Morning peoples, dogs, turkeys?, hamsters and everything else | 13:09 |
| teddy-dbear | and a special shout out to all the power hungry out there | 13:11 |
| ChinnoDog | power hungry? | 14:22 |
| teddy-dbear | they won't give up ops :-/ | 15:16 |
| jedijf | oops | 15:17 |
| teddy-dbear | one down, two to go | 15:36 |
| ChinnoDog | Is this some kind of crime? | 16:04 |
| teddy-dbear | just a bit silly | 16:42 |
| teddy-dbear | unless you want to play kick jthan out ;-) | 16:44 |
| lazyPower | o/ | 17:05 |
| lazyPower | oh | 17:05 |
| lazyPower | i'm an op? | 17:05 |
| lazyPower | O_O | 17:05 |
| JonathanD | Hi. | 17:16 |
| teddy-dbear | o/ | 17:18 |
| teddy-dbear | two down, only pleia2 to go | 17:19 |
| pleia2 | I didn't realize someone had opped me either | 18:09 |
| jthan | lazyPower: WHO ARE YOU? | 18:12 |
| lazyPower | jthan: I am a mutant hampster sent from teh future across the galaxy to impress and confuse you. how am I doing? | 18:12 |
| jthan | Meh. College is more confusing than people o the internet | 18:13 |
| lazyPower | Can be, depends on which course you're referring to | 18:13 |
| jthan | Well I haven't had time for any fun ones yet :-/ | 18:14 |
| jthan | I'm taking a geography class now that I really enjoy because it's small and discussion based and revolves around the environmental crisis. | 18:14 |
| teddy-dbear | the world as we know it is back to normal | 18:16 |
| teddy-dbear | the bear is happy :-D | 18:17 |
| lvmer | Well this group seems pretty awesome. Is it mostly Philadelphia area? | 18:31 |
| jthan | Sadly. | 18:35 |
| jthan | And I only say that because I know for some in further areas where we are not, it is sometimes tough to attend events. | 18:35 |
| jthan | lvmer: Where abouts do you reside? | 18:36 |
| lvmer | 10m south of the airport 0.0 | 18:36 |
| jthan | Oh. So Philly. | 18:36 |
| jthan | Well then you're in luck. | 18:37 |
| lvmer | coincidentally :) | 18:37 |
| JonathanD | Hi. | 18:37 |
| JonathanD | Hey lvmer | 18:37 |
| JonathanD | lvmer: so we'll see you Saturday the 20th right? | 18:37 |
| lvmer | that's actually probably a good day | 18:38 |
| JonathanD | lvmer: the invite has not gone out yet, but there's a linuxy/geeky social thing happening that day. | 18:38 |
| jthan | I want to go! | 18:39 |
| lvmer | jonathanD: ah cool | 18:39 |
| JonathanD | jthan: I'll copy the ML when I send it out. | 18:39 |
| jthan | I won't actually be home yet. | 18:39 |
| JonathanD | jthan: oh :( | 18:40 |
| JonathanD | It'll be 11:30 in Blue Bell. We're getting food, probably around $15 a person. | 18:40 |
| jthan | I know :-/ Sorry. | 18:40 |
| lvmer | JonathanD: ah you run the DE group too xD | 18:40 |
| JonathanD | lvmer: I don't run any groups, I just chill with a lot of them :P | 18:40 |
| jthan | I used to run the calendar for this group. | 18:41 |
| jthan | jedijf: btw, still have write access, don't know if that's an issue. | 18:41 |
| JonathanD | lvmer: I host events that people from various groups go to. | 18:41 |
| JonathanD | lvmer: like geeknics, and fosscon. | 18:41 |
| lvmer | ah | 18:42 |
| jedijf | jthan: only issue is nothing to write to calendar :( | 18:42 |
| jedijf | jthan: soon though | 18:42 |
| JonathanD | lvmer: and I sorta help with PLUG too. | 18:42 |
| JonathanD | lvmer: you should join #plug btw. | 18:43 |
| jthan | jedijf: Yeah. Mostly did not know if it was a rule that I had to be active to stay on the calendar admin. | 18:43 |
| lvmer | Maybe newb.... what is plug? | 18:43 |
| jedijf | jthan: soon you will write Linux holiday get together in Blue Bell | 18:43 |
| jthan | On that note, I'll be pretty free for time in December/January beyond next week, so if you need anything on the calendar... :-p | 18:43 |
| JonathanD | lvmer: Philadelphia Linux Users Group. | 18:45 |
| lvmer | man, really need to get my google skills back in check. I spent a fair amount of time in ubuntu-server and never thought there would be cool groups like this | 18:46 |
| jthan | That's how we all felt before we found here. | 18:47 |
| JonathanD | lvmer: there's actually a lot in Philadelphia | 18:47 |
| JonathanD | and around. | 18:47 |
| lvmer | YES! | 18:48 |
| jedijf | lvmer: join the loco | 18:48 |
| jedijf | launchpad and then grep forums ml etc - get caught up in no time | 18:48 |
| JonathanD | lvmer: PLUG meets 3 times a month, there's also hive76, a hackerspace. | 18:49 |
| jedijf | lvmer: start here: http://ubuntupennsylvania.org/ | 18:49 |
| pleia2 | recently upgraded to 14.04! ;) | 18:49 |
| jedijf | and 12.10 is here | 18:50 |
| lvmer | jedijf: gotcha | 18:50 |
| jedijf | i need tosend you keys | 18:50 |
| lvmer | pleia2: how was it, about to do the same | 18:50 |
| pleia2 | lvmer: read the apache upgrade info, otherwise smooth sailing | 18:50 |
| lvmer | pleia2: gotcha, thanks :) | 18:55 |
| pleia2 | the tl;dr version is that sites-available files need to end in .conf now and my modules got a bit mixed up (had some trouble with mod_rewrite) | 18:57 |
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| mutantturkey | any bread making experience here? | 19:24 |
| jthan | ChinnoDog and I! | 19:25 |
| jthan | We used to banter about our bread all the time. | 19:25 |
| mutantturkey | great | 19:26 |
| mutantturkey | okay so i tried a batch with a good recipie | 19:26 |
| mutantturkey | but i think the issue was the yeast | 19:26 |
| mutantturkey | like, it didn't rise really | 19:27 |
| jthan | So.. both of us mostly use a live sourdough starter and therefore don't really have to "activate" our yeast.. But, yes... If it didn't rise, probably a time or yeast issue. | 19:27 |
| jthan | Did you keep it warm? | 19:27 |
| mutantturkey | how? | 19:27 |
| mutantturkey | how the heck am i supposed to know what 110 degrees is? | 19:27 |
| mutantturkey | re: i waited an hour, punched it down and waited again for an hour | 19:28 |
| mutantturkey | didn't really grow at all | 19:28 |
| mutantturkey | the result was delicious but very dense bread | 19:28 |
| jthan | Meh, sometimes the second rise isn't as significant. Did it bake okay? was it really dense or what? | 19:28 |
| jthan | Ooh. | 19:28 |
| jthan | Yeah.. | 19:28 |
| mutantturkey | the first one didn't really risee | 19:28 |
| jthan | Well, did you keep a warm/moist tea towel over the bowl? | 19:28 |
| mutantturkey | any tips? | 19:28 |
| mutantturkey | no what's a tea towel? | 19:29 |
| mutantturkey | << total noob | 19:29 |
| jthan | Well, just any towel really. Like.. a dish towel | 19:29 |
| mutantturkey | yeah | 19:30 |
| mutantturkey | i used only 1/4 oz packet | 19:30 |
| jthan | Usually I'd knead my stuff, flop it into the bowl or dish, and then cover it with a moist towel or two even | 19:30 |
| jthan | This helps it hold some heat and moisture | 19:30 |
| jthan | How much yeast did it call for? | 19:30 |
| mutantturkey | but it didn't really rise at all, so i think debugging this bread issue it's probably the yeast | 19:30 |
| teddy-dbear | matzo | 19:31 |
| mutantturkey | 25g/1oz fresh yeast or 2 tsp eastblent (quick-rise) dry yeast | 19:32 |
| mutantturkey | 2 1/4 tsp == 1/4 oz | 19:32 |
| jthan | It could just be bad yeast | 19:33 |
| mutantturkey | i just got it ! | 19:34 |
| mutantturkey | maybe it's bad... its best if used by 2016 though | 19:34 |
| mutantturkey | i think it could be a temperature issue | 19:35 |
| mutantturkey | like not hot enough to activate it | 19:35 |
| jthan | Just get a sourdough starter | 19:35 |
| jthan | That's some good stuff | 19:35 |
| jedijf | mutantturkey: radiators in your house? my grandmother used to wrap and put the pizzelle dough on top of the radiator - philly rowhome proofbox | 19:37 |
| mutantturkey | yes yes i do have thouse | 19:37 |
| mutantturkey | jedijf: row home FTW | 19:37 |
| mutantturkey | jthan: i am not crazy about sourdough | 19:37 |
| jedijf | radiator heat for the nose/breathing win | 19:37 |
| jthan | mutantturkey: if you don't leave it sit as long as recipes call for, it can be pretty mild | 19:38 |
| mutantturkey | i'm trying a specific swiss recipie my mum makes though | 19:38 |
| mutantturkey | so | 19:38 |
| jedijf | ....ask mum | 19:39 |
| mutantturkey | i did | 19:39 |
| mutantturkey | she says i'm a fool for trying | 19:39 |
| mutantturkey | jthan: http://www.thefrugalgirl.com/2010/02/wednesday-baking-troubleshooting-yeast-bread/ | 19:40 |
| mutantturkey | i read on the internet that... | 19:40 |
| mutantturkey | my dough is too stiff? | 19:40 |
| mutantturkey | i mean it was pretty stiff i think, the directions says it should be pulling of the bowl when you kneed it | 19:40 |
| jthan | Yeah, there should be some springiness to it | 19:40 |
| jthan | I think after you bake it, they mean | 19:41 |
| mutantturkey | 'to a fairly firm dough whih does no tstick excessively to the hands or the bowl' | 19:43 |
| ChinnoDog | Meaning not so wet that it sticks to everything. | 20:15 |
| ChinnoDog | Wet dough will not only stick to everything but if you try to create a freestanding loaf without a mold it will sag until it is flat. | 20:17 |
| lazyPower | i love kneading dough | 20:58 |
| lazyPower | its a great way to deal with frustration | 20:58 |
| lazyPower | just beat it until it submits | 20:58 |
| JonathanD | https://www.eventbrite.com/e/plug-friends-mas-party-tickets-14889070611 | 22:12 |
| JonathanD | Party Thingy. | 22:12 |
| rmg51 | PACS Saturday :P | 22:24 |
| waltman | come by afterwards! | 22:25 |
| rmg51 | I'm there till 3pm | 22:27 |
| rmg51 | then I have to head home to relieve the babysitter | 22:28 |
| waltman | :* | 23:35 |
| waltman | :( | 23:35 |
| jthan | just eyes in the night | 23:43 |
| jthan | : | 23:43 |
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