| Kilos | morning peeps | 05:19 |
|---|---|---|
| ThatGraemeGuy | morning all | 05:52 |
| Kilos | hi ThatGraemeGuy | 05:52 |
| theblazehen | hi Kilos ThatGraemeGuy | 06:38 |
| Kilos | hi theblazehen | 06:39 |
| Squirm | morning | 07:08 |
| Squirm | So | 07:08 |
| Squirm | I may have bought myself the Galaxy S5 | 07:08 |
| theblazehen | Squirm: nice | 07:09 |
| * theblazehen is wanting the Jolla phone | 07:09 | |
| Squirm | theblazehen: Sailfish OS? | 07:10 |
| theblazehen | Squirm: yeah :) | 07:10 |
| Squirm | theblazehen: look at this phone, russian made. Imagine if Amazon had thought of it... http://yotaphone.com/gb-en/ | 07:10 |
| theblazehen | oh wow.. I'f that could run salifish os.. <3 | 07:11 |
| Squirm | Why Sailfish? | 07:11 |
| theblazehen | Not a fan of the curves though.. | 07:11 |
| theblazehen | 'Cause sailfish OS just appeals to me, and it uses standard linux stuff | 07:12 |
| theblazehen | Eg. IIRC RPM's for packages, wayland for display | 07:12 |
| theblazehen | and has full terminal access | 07:12 |
| theblazehen | Basically a sucessor to the N900 in spirit, I guess you could say | 07:12 |
| Squirm | that's cool. It looks like an actual linux OS, not like Android, they stripped it too much | 07:12 |
| Squirm | Although Ubuntu Touch could also be quite cool | 07:13 |
| theblazehen | what you mean by "they srripped it too much". Android takes too much of the linux away? Agreed on that | 07:13 |
| Squirm | Yep | 07:13 |
| theblazehen | yeah, I don't like the way ubuntu is going however | 07:13 |
| theblazehen | With Mir and all that | 07:13 |
| Squirm | You can root it and install Busybox, then you're pretty much back to where you want to be | 07:14 |
| theblazehen | Probably most likely to suceed however | 07:14 |
| theblazehen | yeah.. You can also on android however | 07:14 |
| Kilos | hi Squirm | 07:14 |
| Squirm | That's what I mean | 07:14 |
| theblazehen | Have you seen the videos of the Salifish OS UI? | 07:14 |
| Squirm | hey Kilos | 07:14 |
| Squirm | theblazehen: will gave a look now | 07:14 |
| Kilos | ai! pulled the wrong usb cable | 07:18 |
| Squirm | lol | 07:18 |
| Kilos | hi gremble | 07:49 |
| Kilos | is the house you looking after behaving itself hehe | 07:50 |
| gremble | only starting on saturday | 08:03 |
| gremble | good morning | 08:04 |
| theblazehen | gi gremble | 08:06 |
| theblazehen | hi* | 08:06 |
| Kilos | hi TinuvaMac | 08:08 |
| TinuvaMac | hi | 08:08 |
| theblazehen | hi TinuvaMac | 08:08 |
| Kilos | listen to the falling rain, listen to it fall | 08:09 |
| gremble | It's very nice | 08:15 |
| gremble | I think I want to make pancakes today | 08:15 |
| Kilos | i love pancakes, make lots and email some | 08:18 |
| Kilos | morning superfly | 08:19 |
| superfly | hi Kilos | 08:21 |
| Kilos | hi jrgns | 08:24 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 08:59 |
| Kilos | the pro is scared that if he says morning he will be given work to do | 09:23 |
| gremble | It's true | 09:34 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 09:43 |
| Kilos | GSM network registration timed out | 09:43 |
| Kilos | over and over | 09:43 |
| * Kilos needs to investigate this prob | 09:44 | |
| theblazehen | Eish, could be overloaded? | 09:44 |
| Kilos | 8ta here we come | 09:44 |
| theblazehen | When you forget to ssh before you run "poweroff" :( | 09:44 |
| Kilos | i even swopped sims in modem | 09:44 |
| Kilos | no man this is on this pc not ssh to another one | 09:45 |
| Kilos | i dont do all that fancy stuffs | 09:45 |
| Kilos | maybe telkom was doing something | 09:45 |
| theblazehen | ya | 09:45 |
| Kilos | i go change sims back | 09:46 |
| theblazehen | kk | 09:46 |
| Kilos- | ya fixed again, they musta done something | 09:47 |
| Kilos- | now ill go rev them for not warning me first | 09:48 |
| * Kilos- thunk my modem crashed | 09:48 | |
| theblazehen | ah | 09:48 |
| theblazehen | ai.. | 09:50 |
| === Kilos- is now known as Kilos | ||
| theblazehen | hi Kilos.. | 09:51 |
| Kilos | hi theblazehen | 09:51 |
| Kilos | hehe | 09:51 |
| theblazehen | wb | 09:51 |
| Kilos | danke | 09:51 |
| Kilos | and i was busy editting our agenda page | 09:53 |
| Kilos | sigh | 09:53 |
| theblazehen | ai | 09:53 |
| Kilos | editing | 09:53 |
| Kilos | ok thats done. i dont know what else to do | 09:57 |
| theblazehen | hmm.. reddit.com/r/askreddit/top ? | 10:00 |
| Kilos | haha | 10:03 |
| Kilos | you play with funny things | 10:04 |
| Kilos | id expect bad internet | 10:04 |
| Kilos | hi SilverCode | 11:42 |
| SilverCode | hi Kilos | 11:43 |
| === gremble is now known as Guest44961 | ||
| Kilos | hmm... | 13:23 |
| theblazehen | Kilos: hmm..? | 13:23 |
| Kilos | me looks at grembles part/joins | 13:24 |
| theblazehen | Anyone here manage to get vagrant running with libvirt as the provider? With ssh? | 13:24 |
| theblazehen | Kilos: ah | 13:24 |
| charl | good afternoon | 13:36 |
| charl | Maaz: coffee on | 13:36 |
| * Maaz starts grinding coffee | 13:36 | |
| charl | Maaz: large | 13:36 |
| Maaz | In a beer mug just for you charl | 13:37 |
| charl | Maaz: with rusks | 13:37 |
| Maaz | There is a packet of Ouma's in the cupboard charl help yourself | 13:37 |
| charl | busy playing with kubernetes, amazing stuff | 13:38 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for charl! | 13:40 |
| charl | Maaz: thanks | 13:44 |
| Maaz | charl: Okay :-) | 13:44 |
| Kilos | hi charl | 13:46 |
| Kilos | wb inetpro plustwo Mzolisto | 14:39 |
| Kilos | wat maak julle | 14:39 |
| plustwo | ... nie baie goed die kant Oom. :( | 14:41 |
| gremble_ | Maak julle nie baie goed nie? | 14:43 |
| === gremble_ is now known as gremble | ||
| gremble | Do you want to make more things? | 14:43 |
| plustwo | not good | 14:43 |
| gremble | Oh, not doing well. That sucks | 14:44 |
| theblazehen | hi plustwo | 14:44 |
| plustwo | unfortunately, eishkom | 14:44 |
| charl | hi Kilos | 14:44 |
| plustwo | hi theblazehen & everybody o/ | 14:45 |
| charl | hi plustwo | 14:46 |
| plustwo | o/ charl | 14:46 |
| theblazehen | hi charl | 14:47 |
| charl | hi theblazehen | 14:47 |
| theblazehen | charl: you ever use vagrant? | 14:48 |
| charl | yes | 14:48 |
| charl | used it just now to deploy this kubernetes stack for testing | 14:48 |
| theblazehen | hmm. Used it with libvert before? | 14:49 |
| charl | nope not specifically | 14:49 |
| theblazehen | I'm trying to use it with libver, and ssh to another machine | 14:49 |
| theblazehen | oh, ok.. | 14:49 |
| theblazehen | Think I need to patch my ruby or something as far as I can tell | 14:49 |
| charl | i mostly just use it locally for testing | 14:49 |
| theblazehen | Trying to reinstall the plugin, and the vagrant-libvert gem seems to change what it depends on.. | 14:50 |
| theblazehen | ah, ok | 14:50 |
| charl | and for that i just let it connect with virtualbox directly | 14:50 |
| theblazehen | ah | 14:50 |
| charl | i have vmware workstation too but then i have to configure it again | 14:50 |
| theblazehen | Wonder if I can let it use kvm over the network, directly.. | 14:50 |
| theblazehen | yeah | 14:50 |
| gremble | I tried to virtualbox once | 14:51 |
| charl | it should be possible if you have ssh, but yeah i don't have experience | 14:51 |
| gremble | never again | 14:51 |
| charl | bad exeperience gremble ? | 14:51 |
| charl | experience | 14:51 |
| theblazehen | charl: yeah, I have the config right. Think something is wrong with the arch runy, or whatever | 14:51 |
| theblazehen | Saw an issue on github about it | 14:52 |
| gremble | Yup. A lot of effort with not much reward | 14:52 |
| theblazehen | gremble: yeah. You use kvm now, or what? | 14:52 |
| gremble | theblazehen: no, I have no need for virtualisation really | 14:52 |
| gremble | Outside of python virtual environments | 14:52 |
| theblazehen | gremble: ah.. You do any dev stuff? | 14:52 |
| theblazehen | ah, yeah | 14:52 |
| gremble | (that I still have to get a hang on) | 14:52 |
| theblazehen | that's good enough | 14:52 |
| gremble | I try not to code much | 14:52 |
| gremble | :P | 14:52 |
| gremble | Dislike it | 14:53 |
| gremble | (which is ironic for someone that really likes computer science) | 14:53 |
| charl | no it's for the individual | 14:53 |
| charl | everyone is different | 14:53 |
| charl | i work as a programmer and even i don't always know if i like it or not | 14:53 |
| charl | actually i do rather like programming but software development as a whole is not always fun | 14:53 |
| gremble | I find it a very inefficient way to solve problems. | 14:54 |
| charl | but then that also counts for operations | 14:54 |
| charl | coding ?! | 14:54 |
| gremble | Yup | 14:54 |
| charl | why? | 14:54 |
| charl | it should be the most efficient, capture the logic in code and let the computer do your work for you | 14:54 |
| gremble | The act of solving a problem introduces more problems, ie. bugs etcetera | 14:55 |
| gremble | 'should' | 14:55 |
| gremble | yes | 14:55 |
| charl | iteration and refinement is central to human learning | 14:55 |
| gremble | Unfortunately humans don't think much like machines | 14:55 |
| charl | that counts for everything | 14:55 |
| charl | human brains also function like complex computers, just much more complex | 14:56 |
| charl | that's why we have trouble going down to basics when we interact with our own technology | 14:56 |
| theblazehen | gremble: tried functional programing? lol | 14:56 |
| gremble | reducing the human mind to a computer is a little reductionist. We are irrational, arbitrary and contradictory | 14:57 |
| gremble | Everything that a machine cannot be | 14:57 |
| gremble | theblazehen: a little. I should spend some time doing it since I am working on lambda calculus | 14:57 |
| gremble | But right now I am deciding on whether I want to nap or work on ibid | 14:58 |
| gremble | haha | 14:58 |
| Kilos | napbe good methinks, im near there too | 14:59 |
| Kilos | but fixing ibid is also good | 15:00 |
| Kilos | then we find a good fast host for QA and she can come here too | 15:01 |
| gremble | :P | 15:02 |
| Kilos | maybe we can ask graeme to host it for us | 15:02 |
| inetpro | dankie oom | 15:02 |
| gremble | Get a small vps :P | 15:02 |
| Kilos | ai! inetpro julle sukkel ne | 15:02 |
| Kilos | hetzner be lekker fast gremble | 15:02 |
| Kilos | ian got a site there or something and its fast | 15:03 |
| inetpro | Kilos: darem nie helemal soos eishkom nie | 15:03 |
| gremble | Who puts a spellchecker in an IDE >.> | 15:03 |
| Kilos | isnt ide the ribbon cable used on pata drives | 15:04 |
| gremble | Integrated development environment | 15:04 |
| inetpro | maar ek dink dit is maar hoofsaaklik hulle wat vir ons die probleme veroorsaak, goeie leerkurwes vir almal wat dit moet verduur | 15:05 |
| inetpro | met so bietjie geduld sal ons uiteindelik daar kom | 15:06 |
| Kilos | sjoe hulle se ons kan sukke onderbreekings verwag tot in maart | 15:07 |
| inetpro | goeie leerkurwes vir almal wat stelsels moet aan die gang kry en aan die gang hou met sulke onbeplande onderbrekings | 15:08 |
| inetpro | nee meneer, jy verstaan verkeerd | 15:08 |
| Kilos | drie generators wat herstel moet word | 15:08 |
| Kilos | o? | 15:08 |
| inetpro | ek dink dit gaan nog vyf jaar vat, ten minste | 15:08 |
| Kilos | lol | 15:08 |
| plustwo | inetpro: that long? | 15:09 |
| Kilos | veral as hulle terbienes boot sonder om eers die lubrikasie systeem eers te start | 15:09 |
| Kilos | turbines? | 15:09 |
| inetpro | plustwo: yep, we live in very challenging times | 15:09 |
| inetpro | you don't build a generator in a year or two | 15:10 |
| Kilos | my 200g drive that has elementaryos on died bad with the last power cuts | 15:10 |
| Kilos | ubun tu cant even see it | 15:10 |
| plustwo | but there's a windmill farm....! isn't that suppose to gen some juice? | 15:11 |
| plustwo | jammer oom | 15:11 |
| inetpro | plustwo: see https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B4Vq8akCEAA_ow3.jpg | 15:11 |
| Kilos | ya but the farm cant supply more than they have broken | 15:11 |
| plustwo | funny part, we still pay our rates... plus tarrif increases | 15:12 |
| Kilos | thats not for upgrading, thats to build nkandlas | 15:13 |
| plustwo | inetpro: that graph is not very healthy | 15:13 |
| plustwo | nkandla se ****. he must pay back the money | 15:14 |
| inetpro | that is small change when you look at the costs of Eskom generators | 15:14 |
| Kilos | lol | 15:14 |
| Kilos | those armatures alone cost millions | 15:15 |
| Kilos | i can get that info from my boet | 15:15 |
| Kilos | he just smiles now, sitting in rotek head office in dubai | 15:15 |
| Kilos | i just hope we all got power next tuesday night for the re-verification thing | 15:16 |
| Kilos | im still waiting to see your testimonial inetpro | 15:17 |
| inetpro | Kilos: ai, still too many other challenges here... I'll get to that at some point | 15:17 |
| Kilos | im patient, ill wait | 15:18 |
| inetpro | cool | 15:18 |
| inetpro | meanwhile I got gatvol of my weak signal | 15:18 |
| Kilos | 7 days left | 15:19 |
| Kilos | oh my still not fixed? | 15:19 |
| inetpro | went and got myself the Huawei B593s-601 LTE router at Telkom | 15:19 |
| Kilos | rev someone man | 15:19 |
| Kilos | no improvement? | 15:19 |
| inetpro | so far having a stable connection at least | 15:20 |
| Kilos | wow was your old router faulty? | 15:20 |
| inetpro | it's not faster than what I got with the older router but at least is stable, for now | 15:20 |
| Kilos | or the new one just receives a better signal | 15:20 |
| Kilos | like their d-157 usb modem picks up a signal when the d-156 doesnt | 15:21 |
| inetpro | this one has two antennas | 15:21 |
| Kilos | just my luck to have bought the weaker one | 15:22 |
| Kilos | oh you not using a yagi with it? | 15:22 |
| inetpro | have not tried connecting to my antenna on the roof yet | 15:22 |
| Kilos | that should strengthen it lots | 15:23 |
| Kilos | if you get stable connection from the router antennas then the yagi should get you back up to full power again | 15:23 |
| Kilos | you 2 on a router make up a dipole right? | 15:24 |
| inetpro | uh? | 15:24 |
| Kilos | ai! | 15:24 |
| Kilos | Maaz: google dipole antennas | 15:25 |
| Maaz | Kilos: "Dipole antenna - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dipole_antenna :: "Antenna Here is a Dipole - ARRL" http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Technology/tis/info/pdf/9106023.pdf :: "The Dipole Antenna - What is a dipole Antenna?" http://www.hamuniverse.com/dipoleantenna.html :: "The Dipole Antenna - Antenna Theory" http://www.antenna- | 15:25 |
| Maaz | theory.com/antennas/dipole.php :: "Buckmaster OCF Dipole Antenna - HamCall" http://hamcall.… | 15:25 |
| Kilos | the yagi has a folded dipole as it driven element | 15:26 |
| Kilos | with directors and a reflector at the back | 15:27 |
| inetpro | that's going over me head | 15:27 |
| Kilos | ai! | 15:27 |
| Kilos | at least weve had some rain | 15:28 |
| Kilos | 43mm in last 2 nights | 15:28 |
| inetpro | wow, just had 30mm | 15:31 |
| Kilos | weeds having a field day | 15:31 |
| Kilos | i love ctrl+R in konversation | 15:33 |
| Kilos | oh inetpro heres an antenna example for you | 15:35 |
| Kilos | bunny ears on tv is a dipole | 15:36 |
| Kilos | the outside one is a yagi | 15:36 |
| Kilos | many many times stronger | 15:36 |
| inetpro | at the moment I am happy with slow but steady | 15:40 |
| inetpro | too fast and all data is lost to quickly | 15:41 |
| inetpro | *too quickly | 15:41 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 15:42 |
| Kilos | http://mybroadband.co.za/news/government/115351-the-frightening-reality-about-eskom.html | 15:58 |
| Kilos | so sad | 15:58 |
| Kilos | wbb. gonna try get elementaryos going again | 16:15 |
| gremble | engineroom.trackmaven.com/blog/making-a-mockery-of-python this is very cool | 17:07 |
| gremble | Anyone here familiar with using PyCharm? | 17:31 |
| gremble | Please don't talk so much. I cannot keep up | 19:55 |
| theblazehen | gremble: IIRC charl is | 20:31 |
| gremble | theblazehen: that has been long since sorted :P If I had to wait for a response here I would wait foreverandever | 20:33 |
| gremble | :P | 20:33 |
| theblazehen | lol.. :p | 20:33 |
| theblazehen | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noop eww.. | 20:34 |
| theblazehen | "Int", "String" ?! | 20:34 |
| theblazehen | Captials?! | 20:35 |
| gremble | Have you looked at Rust? | 20:35 |
| gremble | from Mozilla | 20:35 |
| theblazehen | yeah :) | 20:35 |
| gremble | Pretty good looking language | 20:35 |
| theblazehen | Liking it so far | 20:35 |
| gremble | If you like having your hand held | 20:35 |
| gremble | :P | 20:35 |
| theblazehen | Bit lacking in the crypto departament :( | 20:35 |
| gremble | It is still a 0.x version though | 20:36 |
| gremble | lol | 20:36 |
| theblazehen | yeah, heard people complain about the outdated docs | 20:36 |
| * theblazehen is wondering I'f I should run vagrant locally and connect to VM's with libvert, or run vagrant on the VM host, and access it with SSH... | 20:37 | |
| gremble | It looks like vagrant is a wrapper around a VM | 20:38 |
| gremble | Never used it so I have no icea | 20:38 |
| gremble | idea even | 20:38 |
| theblazehen | Yeah, not much benefit for pyhton | 20:39 |
| theblazehen | for everythng else.. | 20:39 |
| theblazehen | vagrant init && vagrant up = new, fully running, VM | 20:39 |
| gremble | I've always wondered about setting up virtual development environments, but I mainly use C and C++ | 20:39 |
| gremble | No need for any of that funny business | 20:40 |
| theblazehen | you should try it. | 20:40 |
| theblazehen | https://docs.vagrantup.com/v2/getting-started/ | 20:40 |
| gremble | It is really neat technology, but I don't think I will spend much time with it. :P The only software development that I do is mathematical modelling, numerical analysis and apparently an IRC robot | 20:43 |
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