[11:48] <frankban> uiteam: I need two reviews and QA for https://codereview.appspot.com/188890043 (GUI  charm). Anyone available? Thanks!
[12:03] <rick_h_>  frankban ty for helping out huw. I'll look in a bit.
[12:03] <frankban> rick_h_: thanks
[12:04] <rick_h_> and welcome back :)
[12:14] <frankban> :-)
[15:20] <lazyPower> Is the jujucharms.com website in progress of an upgrade?
[15:20] <rick_h_> lazyPower: yes
[15:20] <rick_h_> lazyPower: back in a few min hopefully, misfire :(
[15:20] <lazyPower> ack, i'll hold off on the panic button
[15:20] <rick_h_> oh I'll panic enough for both of us :)
[15:51] <rick_h_> uiteam call in 10 thought might be delayed if the production issues go on
[16:29] <frankban> Makyo: FYI, the car about updating quickstart for new login is likely to involve work on the gui server in the charm. please feel free to ping me if you need help when tackling that
[16:29] <frankban> card even
[17:33] <rick_h_> lazyPower: should look better now
[17:38] <lazyPower> rick_h_: sure does - and started looking that way about an hour ago
[17:41] <rick_h_> lazyPower: cool well d/l numbers just finished so hopefully all good until next release
[17:41]  * lazyPower fistbumps
[18:02] <hatch> lunching
[18:36] <jcastro> jrwren, rick_h_: proper numbers, <3 you guys
[18:38] <rick_h_> jcastro: bundles will come next week, little more complicated there. 
[18:39] <jrwren> jcastro: bundles are definitely coming. I'm finally happy with a solution :)
[18:39] <jrwren> thanks for the praise jcastro 
[19:13] <lazyPower> rick_h_: https://api.jujucharms.com/v4/trusty/hdp-pig-4/archive/config.yaml - i call schenanigans
[19:13] <lazyPower> rick_h_: is this still pending a db refresh or has all that dust settled?
[19:13] <rick_h_> lazyPower: otp look in a sec
[19:14] <lazyPower> rick_h_: i stnd corrected - this is indeed in the repository
[19:14] <lazyPower> disregard my callout
[19:15] <jcastro> store folks, any idea what's up with this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/558832/juju-fails-to-download-the-charm-dial-tcp-lookup-store-juju-ubuntu-com-no-su
[19:16] <jrwren> jcastro: that juju user is behind a firewall stopping from reaching store.juju.ubuntu.com?
[19:16] <jrwren> jcastro: or doesn't have DNS configured, since its a "could not lookup store.juju.ubuntu.com"
[19:16] <marcoceppi> how is the sorting done on this page? I can't make heads or tails of it
[19:16] <marcoceppi> https://jujucharms.com/solutions
[19:17] <jcastro> marcoceppi, looks like # of deploys
[19:17] <marcoceppi> jcastro: false
[19:17] <jcastro> oh wait
[19:17] <jcastro> but that was correct earlier?
[19:17] <marcoceppi> because wordpress outranks a whole lot of charms on that page and it's like at the bottom
[19:17] <jcastro> I was just on this page
[19:17] <marcoceppi> no idea
[19:19] <jcastro> jrwren, he says he can wget the charm fine
[19:20] <jrwren> jcastro: http_proxy or something?
[19:21] <urulama> marcoceppi: trusty and bundles on top, sorted by dl numbers, precise then ... this was a requirement
[19:21] <jrwren> jcastro: knowing what version of juju may help too
[19:21] <marcoceppi> urulama: so juju-gui tops mysql but trusty mysql has more downloads than gui
[19:21] <marcoceppi> urulama: something isn't adding up
[19:22] <urulama> marcoceppi: bundles are somewhere out of order with 0 downloads, and there is one "precise" at the top ... we'll tweak them in time
[19:22] <urulama> marcoceppi: that's precise, not trusty ... and ES somehow boosted that to #2 spot
[19:22] <urulama> marcoceppi: elasticsearch is funny sometimes :)
[19:23] <urulama> marcoceppi: we have to promote trusty charms over existing precise ones ... otherwise you'd see old charms on the top all the time
[19:24] <marcoceppi> it seems really backwards that a trusty charm with 2 downloads will out weigh a precise charm with tens of thousands
[19:24] <marcoceppi> seems it be better to sort by downloaded most since X weeks
[19:24] <marcoceppi> what's hot now
[19:28] <urulama> marcoceppi: the thing is, juju-core is not connected to this new charmstore, but the old charmstore, so we don't actually get "dowload events" direclty, but have to "process them" from the old one ... what you're saying will happen, there's just more to it. we need to switch to new charmstore first, and that happens once QA team does test on legacy compatibility with existing juju clients
[19:45] <rick_h_> lazyPower: ok, glad it's not lying to you
[19:46] <rick_h_> marcoceppi: jcastro so we're working out the search kinks. The goal is normally to rate based on matching your search term, then the series, then download numbers
[19:46] <rick_h_> marcoceppi: jcastro so what you're seeing is that the series boost (because if you have two mysql you want the newer one to show up first regardless of download numbers) effecting the other results especially because there's no search term here
[19:47] <rick_h_> but even that doesn't do great as shown here: https://jujucharms.com/q/apache that the boost didn't seem to get trusty apache2 over precise. 
[19:47] <rick_h_> so we're still working on trying to tweak the boosts and get it right. 
[19:48] <rick_h_> we'll have another release next week with more tweaks
[19:58] <hatch> http://www.redbull.com/ca/en/snow/stories/1331693810256/red-bull-kite-farm-regina
[19:58] <hatch> saweeeet
[19:59] <hatch> jrwren: ^ here is a good picture of some kiting :)
[20:00] <jrwren> redbull <3
[20:01] <jrwren> that is SWEET.
[20:01] <jrwren> i wonder why more people around here don't do that.
[20:01] <hatch> It's learning curve is similar to VIM :P
[20:02] <hatch> tbh that's why I've seen so many quit 
[20:02] <hatch> and it's super dangerous if you don't learn slowly
[20:02] <hatch> but if people can get past that then they usually fall in love
[20:35] <hatch> nice down to 28 test failures
[20:36] <hatch> it's especially awesome when something fails but doesn't tell you why 
[20:36] <hatch> hah
[20:49] <hatch> ugh mocha is doing it's stupid objects keys need to be in order failures again
[22:03] <huwshimi> Morning
[22:04] <hatch> morning huwshimi 
[23:02] <hatch> rick_h_: hey have you looked at http://www.pivotaltracker.com/why-tracker/how-it-works ?
[23:02] <hatch> expensive...but maybe better?
[23:05] <hatch> oh hey in doing these tests I found a big
[23:05] <hatch> bug
[23:05] <hatch> yay test
[23:05] <hatch> s