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dholbachgood morning07:52
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sverzegnassipopey: ping08:39
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popeysverzegnassi: hey09:31
sverzegnassihttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-docviewer-app/+bug/139972909:32
ubot5Launchpad bug 1399729 in Ubuntu Document Viewer App "Document viewer needs a way to store documents in a permanent location" [Undecided,New]09:32
sverzegnassipopey: I'm updating the state of this report. Do we have some news from security team?09:33
popeyno, will poke jdstrad when he wakes09:33
sverzegnassipopey: ok! Second question :P Did you tried that branch I sent you last weekend? Any feedback?09:35
popeyone moment, on a call..09:35
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popeysverzegnassi: ok, call finished...09:45
popeysverzegnassi: so that branch you sent over works well on krillin.09:45
popeyI only tested with small/medium sized PDFs, nothing really huge09:45
popeysverzegnassi: zooming worked fine.09:48
sverzegnassipopey: my opinion is that there's no much to do with huge files09:48
sverzegnassimany of them are slow even on a dekstop09:49
popeytrue09:49
popeythe most sane "large" one I have is the Ubuntu Manual, 139 pages with plenty of images09:49
sverzegnassiit's the one I use for testing09:49
popeythought so09:49
popeyit renders fine on krillin09:49
sverzegnassithe only thing I'll like to do is to show a blank page when the app is still trying to get the page rendered on the screen09:50
popeydoesn't it do that already?09:50
popeyoh, no, you get a big grey area?09:50
sverzegnassiyep09:50
popeyI'm not sure.09:51
popeythe fact that it's grey means to me that the page hasn't been rendered09:51
popeya blank page makes me think "This page intentionally left blank"09:51
JamesTaitGood morning all, happy Human Rights Day! :-D09:51
popeyit's the visual equivalent of a video game having "pop-in" when you get close to an object09:52
sverzegnassiwe could add a "fake" activity indicator09:52
sverzegnassiI mean, when I scroll the flickable, I'd like to have a visual feedback from the page I'm scrolling (e.g. see the spacing between pages)09:52
popeyI'm still not convinced ☻09:53
sverzegnassithe version released in the store already do it :P09:53
popeyhah09:53
sverzegnassi*does09:53
popeyI never noticed. clearly! So ignore me ☻09:54
sverzegnassianyway, this is something we can fix later, the most important thing is that it's actually faster than the plugin we have09:54
popeyyeah, it's very usable09:58
sverzegnassipopey: good! Now what I'd like to do is sending the bugfix for mixed orientation documents upstream, so that the thing will be more maintainable. Still need to get in touch with the other guys though10:09
popeyoh, I thought you'd already contacted them and they said it wasn't heavily maintained?10:10
sverzegnassiNo, I just read some information on github, I wanted to have the fix ready and tested (and it's what I did during the last week). I planned to do it today, since I have more spare time than the other days10:15
popeyok, excellent.10:19
alcihi. Does anyone have an insight about this https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1401019 (ubuntu-emalator failing to create a VM) ?10:25
ubot5Launchpad bug 1401019 in goget-ubuntu-touch (Ubuntu) "ubuntu-emulator fails to create a device: Unable to mount temp dir" [Undecided,New]10:25
popeyalci: let me see if I can confirm...10:33
popeyalci: worked here. is your home directory setup wierdly ?10:55
alcipopey: well, not really weirdly, except some of the directory in it (video, music and images) are bind mounts.10:58
popeyhmm10:58
popeyI don't know then, sorry.10:58
popeycan you do simple things like mount -o loop an iso image?10:58
alciyes. sudo mount -o loop /home/franck/Téléchargements/ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso /home/franck/tmp/ works... (read only)11:01
popeyhmm11:02
alcipopey: I got to leave. Thanks for your help. I'll be back.11:04
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QtRoSHi all11:45
popeyhi QtRoS11:47
QtRoSpopey how it's going? :)12:15
popeygreat, hows you?12:16
QtRoSpopey I am ok, waiting for tomorrow's hack day)12:17
QtRoSpopey now I am able to be online during the day (change my regular job :) )12:17
QtRoSpopey BTW take a look at lp:~mrqtros/ubuntu-rssreader-app/ubuntu-rssreader-app-137971612:17
popeyok12:18
QtRoSpopey started work on single article view bug with new new header12:18
popeyah excellent!12:18
QtRoSpopey but I've met a problem related with header (I foreseen it before), I'll try to illustrate it in evening, I hope)12:20
techneut92hello12:59
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techneut92does anyone know how to install developer tools on ubuntu touch? (nexus 5) used to be an option for that in devices..13:01
popeytechneut92: thing it does it automatically - right zbenjamin ?13:02
popey(in qtc)13:02
techneut92hu? well i geuss something went wrong13:02
techneut92my log says developer tools arent installed13:02
techneut92(after i enabled ssh public key auth)13:03
techneut92anyone any idea on how to manually install developer tools ?13:08
zbenjamintechneut92: you don't need developer tools on the phone13:13
zbenjamintechneut92: its a advanced feature in case someone wants to compile his apps on the phone13:13
techneut92that's what i'm trying to do :p i've created an qt quick application. i'm looking for a way to run the qt quick application on my device13:14
zbenjamintechneut92: you need a Ubuntu Kit :)13:15
zbenjamintechneut92: on the device page there should be a button that says "Create Kit for device" or so13:15
zbenjamintechneut92: click that and get a coffee13:15
techneut92i think i've done that..13:15
zbenjamintechneut92: after that you can add a Kit to your project , hit run and run the app on the device13:15
zbenjamintechneut92: http://developer.ubuntu.com/apps/sdk/tutorials/running-apps-from-the-sdk/13:16
zbenjamintechneut92: you have a device, so skip the emulator part and you have a kit so you can skip that too13:16
zbenjamintechneut92: look up the "Managing Kits" part13:18
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techneut92thanks it does make me understand more :) but i think some settings arent correct. when i make a QML only app.. i can run the application directly on my device. now im tryin the qt quick application (C++ and QML) but at my kits it doesnt say deploy on device. it only says: run custom executable (that is if i select the arm kits)13:21
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zbenjamintechneut92: qmake or cmake project?13:25
zbenjamintechneut92: and is it a project created from a Ubuntu template? Or your custom one13:26
techneut92_soo... i made my ubuntu-sdk crash.. thats some progress :|13:26
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zbenjamintechneut92: good job ;)How did you do it13:27
techneut92_change the Qt version of a kit13:28
techneut92_and press apply13:28
popeyahayzen: if you have no internet connection, thumbnails don't load in artist/album view - we had a bug for that didn't we?13:28
ahayzenpopey, not sure if we have a bug .. but it is a bug yes13:29
popeyin music or thumbnailer?13:29
ahayzenpopey, the thumbnailer still attempts to look them up even if they are cached locally :/ ... thumbnailer ;)13:29
popeythought so13:29
* ahayzen wants the code for bug 1372000 to land 13:30
ubot5bug 1372000 in Thumbnailer "Album art from images in the same folder not exposed" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137200013:30
ahayzenpopey, i don't see an existing bug report13:30
popeyok, filing one13:30
ahayzenpopey, thanks ...  IIRC the thumbnailer are slow to load on a slow network connection as well? eg if you put your device into 2g mode?13:31
ahayzenpopey, its like it tries to find it via its online source first and then once it realises its the same as the cache then shows it13:31
popeyahayzen: https://bugs.launchpad.net/thumbnailer/+bug/140110913:34
ubot5Launchpad bug 1401109 in Thumbnailer "Thumbnailer still tries to fetch thumbnails when offline" [Undecided,New]13:34
ahayzenpopey, awesome thanks i'll double check i can still get it and confirm it :)13:35
popeyta13:35
techneut92_this is really frustrating .. i think qt quick applications cant yet be deployed to the device?13:35
ahayzen"cable modem"13:35
ahayzenpopey, can you just check that if... you disable WiFi and cellular data...then it infact does show the images?13:37
popeychecked and added comment13:38
ahayzenpopey, i can get a similar behaviour if i enable only 2g ... it then takes a while for it to then load the images13:38
ahayzenpopey, so if it thinks there is the possibility of a network connection then it attempts to use that rather than showing the images?13:39
popeyyes13:39
popeyahayzen: also, in 755 I put "Now 87" and I have about 22 albums showing now, all called "Now 87" each with one track in13:40
ahayzenpopey, thats sounds possible ;)13:40
popey13:40
ahayzenpopey, it all depends on what has made your metadata and if the albumArtist tag is correct ;)13:41
ahayzenpopey, does it have 'various artists' in there?13:41
popeyin where?13:41
popeyit has "Now 87" in the album field according to nautilus13:42
ahayzenpopey, the albumArtists ID3 tag or whichever format your using13:42
popeyartist is the real artist13:42
popeytitle is the track name.13:42
ahayzenpopey, there is an albumArtist one as well apparently which should be 'Various Artists' for it then to work IIRC.. let me find the bug where james explained it for us13:43
popeyk13:43
ahayzenpopey, https://bugs.launchpad.net/music-app/+bug/1377510/comments/213:43
ubot5Launchpad bug 1377510 in Ubuntu Music App "[music] Soundtracks and other "Various Artists" album types are not well supported in the Albums tab" [High,Fix committed]13:43
ahayzenpopey, the last paragraph being the important one13:44
popeyok, so i need to fix the id tag in this album13:44
popeythats fine13:44
ahayzenpopey, but he does claim 'This will also handle cases where the album artist isn't set to the generic name "Various Artists"'13:44
ahayzenpopey, oh the next comment as well ;) https://bugs.launchpad.net/music-app/+bug/1377510/comments/313:45
ubot5Launchpad bug 1377510 in Ubuntu Music App "[music] Soundtracks and other "Various Artists" album types are not well supported in the Albums tab" [High,Fix committed]13:45
popeyok13:45
ahayzenpopey, which format are they?13:45
popeymp313:45
ahayzenpopey, so the TPE2 tag13:46
ahayzenyey mp3 \o/13:46
ahayzenwhich is the "Band/orchestra/accompaniment"13:46
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zbenjamintechneut92_: you can not change Qt version of a ubuntu kit, it needs to be autodetected14:27
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mihirhey popey14:55
balloonshey mihir!14:55
popeyhi mihir14:55
mihirhey balloons14:55
mihirhow are you guys doing ?14:56
balloonscongrats, I hope everything is excellent for you14:56
mihirballoons: sorry i am out and couldn't take much look on the MPs but I made sure that , i responded timely to Andrea  :)14:56
balloonsIt's QA Day for the core apps hacking, so I'm happy :-)14:56
popeymihir: how were the celebrations?14:56
mihirpopey: amazing , i'll upload some pics and send you guys links.14:57
mihirwe had 3 days functions , and damn tired .14:57
mihiri just got my laptop now just tired, i am feeling sad, couldn't contribute to the hack days :|14:57
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popeymihir: look forward to seeing them!14:58
mihirpopey: i have one , uploaded by friend http://goo.gl/hYNV8714:59
popeycheck you out!14:59
popeyYou had a shave and everything! ☻14:59
rpadovanicongrats :D15:00
mihirhahahahah thanks a lot rpadovani  :)15:00
mihirrpadovani: indeed great work and fast cycle on calculator :)15:01
rpadovani:)15:01
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popeymihir: do you know why the sync refresh icon might disappear for someone in the list of calendars view?15:43
popey(ogra has this issue - I do not)15:43
mihirpopey: it works on my side, will check15:45
popeyi think we only show it under certain circumstances15:45
ogra_http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/cal.png15:45
mihirHmm I don't remember I need to  check.15:47
ogra_well, if you dont need any data from me, i'd just remove the calendar app and all traces of it and re-install15:47
ogra_just didnt do that yet in case you need something15:48
mihirHmm popey are facing same issues?15:48
popeyno, fine here15:48
popeyhttps://imgur.com/ygyP8S1 is what I see15:48
mihirHmm ogra_ can you try reinstalling?15:48
ogra_sure15:49
ogra_mihir, i wiped all traces of evolution, calendar and syncevolution in my home ... removed the app, re-installed it ... no button15:52
ogra_it shows my events without sync though ... not sure where that comes from15:53
mihirHmmm ogra_ I will check and revert back15:53
ogra_imho that shouldnt be there ... hmm15:54
ogra_does the app not have its own app dir somewhere ?15:56
ogra_i dont seem to be able to find one15:56
* ogra_ would really like to know where these events come from 15:57
mihirAll events are coming from eds16:03
mihirI mean that helps syncing with Google16:04
ogra_yeah, they are gone after a reboot16:07
ogra_i still dont have the sync button though ... just switched to english, phone is reboting now16:07
ogra_seems the running syncevo instance didnt properly clean up without reboot16:08
ogra_mihir, ok, switching to en_US gets me a button16:08
ogra_and i get a proper notification tapping it16:09
mihirogra_: weird16:09
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mihirogra_: I got that I guess16:09
ogra_you are missing the translation for "arrow going in a circle" for sure :P16:10
popeyheh16:10
popeycan you file a bug please ogra_ ?16:10
popeylp:ubuntu-calendar-app16:10
ogra_popey, after meetings ...16:10
popeyk16:10
mihirogra_: nope my guess was wrong, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-calendar-dev/ubuntu-calendar-app/trunk/view/head:/CalendarChoicePopup.qml#L5116:11
mihiri thought we haven't used translation , but we have alread did.16:12
mihirogra_: but will check16:12
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ogra_mihir, reading that code comment, perhaps the german translation exceeds 15 chars16:19
mihiryup i guess.16:19
mihirogra_: but if we don't then it exceed and overlap the space.16:20
mihirpopey: ^^16:20
ogra_"Aktualisieren" only has 13 though ...16:20
ogra_not sure what the actual translation is (just guessing)16:20
mihirogra_: it is Syncing.16:22
mihirogra_: so in German it is Synchronisieren16:22
mihirit is exact 15 I guess.16:23
ogra_so that 15 is probably a mis-count ?16:23
ogra_and it only supports 14 or so16:23
mihirogra_: need to check in rosetta16:24
ogra_is there a way i can edit translations on the fly ?16:25
* ogra_ assumes not 16:25
* mihir checks the pot files16:25
ogra_lol16:26
ogra_i switched back to german16:26
ogra_button is there16:26
mihirogra_: ahhh :-o really16:27
mihirogra_: i wonder , http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-calendar-dev/ubuntu-calendar-app/trunk/view/head:/po/de.po#L14716:27
mihirif you notice that there is soemthing wrong with syncing Translation , isn't it?16:28
ogra_yeah, might be ... hard to tell what that was16:30
ogra_the translation seems fine (i would have picked "Aktualisieren" simply because it is shorter, but it also is less correct ...16:32
mihirHmm but ogra_ i don't understand what is Synchronisierung läuft means?16:36
mihirwhen i use google to translate Syncing to German , it says Synchronisieren16:37
ogra_mihir, thats the popup message test16:37
ogra_"Sync running"16:37
ogra_s/test/text/ (indeed)16:40
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