[07:52] <dholbach> good morning
[08:39] <sverzegnassi> popey: ping
[09:31] <popey> sverzegnassi: hey
[09:32] <sverzegnassi> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-docviewer-app/+bug/1399729
[09:33] <sverzegnassi> popey: I'm updating the state of this report. Do we have some news from security team?
[09:33] <popey> no, will poke jdstrad when he wakes
[09:35] <sverzegnassi> popey: ok! Second question :P Did you tried that branch I sent you last weekend? Any feedback?
[09:35] <popey> one moment, on a call..
[09:45] <popey> sverzegnassi: ok, call finished...
[09:45] <popey> sverzegnassi: so that branch you sent over works well on krillin.
[09:45] <popey> I only tested with small/medium sized PDFs, nothing really huge
[09:48] <popey> sverzegnassi: zooming worked fine.
[09:48] <sverzegnassi> popey: my opinion is that there's no much to do with huge files
[09:49] <sverzegnassi> many of them are slow even on a dekstop
[09:49] <popey> true
[09:49] <popey> the most sane "large" one I have is the Ubuntu Manual, 139 pages with plenty of images
[09:49] <sverzegnassi> it's the one I use for testing
[09:49] <popey> thought so
[09:49] <popey> it renders fine on krillin
[09:50] <sverzegnassi> the only thing I'll like to do is to show a blank page when the app is still trying to get the page rendered on the screen
[09:50] <popey> doesn't it do that already?
[09:50] <popey> oh, no, you get a big grey area?
[09:50] <sverzegnassi> yep
[09:51] <popey> I'm not sure.
[09:51] <popey> the fact that it's grey means to me that the page hasn't been rendered
[09:51] <popey> a blank page makes me think "This page intentionally left blank"
[09:51] <JamesTait> Good morning all, happy Human Rights Day! :-D
[09:52] <popey> it's the visual equivalent of a video game having "pop-in" when you get close to an object
[09:52] <sverzegnassi> we could add a "fake" activity indicator
[09:52] <sverzegnassi> I mean, when I scroll the flickable, I'd like to have a visual feedback from the page I'm scrolling (e.g. see the spacing between pages)
[09:53] <popey> I'm still not convinced ☻
[09:53] <sverzegnassi> the version released in the store already do it :P
[09:53] <popey> hah
[09:53] <sverzegnassi> *does
[09:54] <popey> I never noticed. clearly! So ignore me ☻
[09:54] <sverzegnassi> anyway, this is something we can fix later, the most important thing is that it's actually faster than the plugin we have
[09:58] <popey> yeah, it's very usable
[10:09] <sverzegnassi> popey: good! Now what I'd like to do is sending the bugfix for mixed orientation documents upstream, so that the thing will be more maintainable. Still need to get in touch with the other guys though
[10:10] <popey> oh, I thought you'd already contacted them and they said it wasn't heavily maintained?
[10:15] <sverzegnassi> No, I just read some information on github, I wanted to have the fix ready and tested (and it's what I did during the last week). I planned to do it today, since I have more spare time than the other days
[10:19] <popey> ok, excellent.
[10:25] <alci> hi. Does anyone have an insight about this https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1401019 (ubuntu-emalator failing to create a VM) ?
[10:33] <popey> alci: let me see if I can confirm...
[10:55] <popey> alci: worked here. is your home directory setup wierdly ?
[10:58] <alci> popey: well, not really weirdly, except some of the directory in it (video, music and images) are bind mounts.
[10:58] <popey> hmm
[10:58] <popey> I don't know then, sorry.
[10:58] <popey> can you do simple things like mount -o loop an iso image?
[11:01] <alci> yes. sudo mount -o loop /home/franck/Téléchargements/ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso /home/franck/tmp/ works... (read only)
[11:02] <popey> hmm
[11:04] <alci> popey: I got to leave. Thanks for your help. I'll be back.
[11:45] <QtRoS> Hi all
[11:47] <popey> hi QtRoS
[12:15] <QtRoS> popey how it's going? :)
[12:16] <popey> great, hows you?
[12:17] <QtRoS> popey I am ok, waiting for tomorrow's hack day)
[12:17] <QtRoS> popey now I am able to be online during the day (change my regular job :) )
[12:17] <QtRoS> popey BTW take a look at lp:~mrqtros/ubuntu-rssreader-app/ubuntu-rssreader-app-1379716
[12:18] <popey> ok
[12:18] <QtRoS> popey started work on single article view bug with new new header
[12:18] <popey> ah excellent!
[12:20] <QtRoS> popey but I've met a problem related with header (I foreseen it before), I'll try to illustrate it in evening, I hope)
[12:59] <techneut92> hello
[13:01] <techneut92> does anyone know how to install developer tools on ubuntu touch? (nexus 5) used to be an option for that in devices..
[13:02] <popey> techneut92: thing it does it automatically - right zbenjamin ?
[13:02] <popey> (in qtc)
[13:02] <techneut92> hu? well i geuss something went wrong
[13:02] <techneut92> my log says developer tools arent installed
[13:03] <techneut92> (after i enabled ssh public key auth)
[13:08] <techneut92> anyone any idea on how to manually install developer tools ?
[13:13] <zbenjamin> techneut92: you don't need developer tools on the phone
[13:13] <zbenjamin> techneut92: its a advanced feature in case someone wants to compile his apps on the phone
[13:14] <techneut92> that's what i'm trying to do :p i've created an qt quick application. i'm looking for a way to run the qt quick application on my device
[13:15] <zbenjamin> techneut92: you need a Ubuntu Kit :)
[13:15] <zbenjamin> techneut92: on the device page there should be a button that says "Create Kit for device" or so
[13:15] <zbenjamin> techneut92: click that and get a coffee
[13:15] <techneut92> i think i've done that..
[13:15] <zbenjamin> techneut92: after that you can add a Kit to your project , hit run and run the app on the device
[13:16] <zbenjamin> techneut92: http://developer.ubuntu.com/apps/sdk/tutorials/running-apps-from-the-sdk/
[13:16] <zbenjamin> techneut92: you have a device, so skip the emulator part and you have a kit so you can skip that too
[13:18] <zbenjamin> techneut92: look up the "Managing Kits" part
[13:21] <techneut92> thanks it does make me understand more :) but i think some settings arent correct. when i make a QML only app.. i can run the application directly on my device. now im tryin the qt quick application (C++ and QML) but at my kits it doesnt say deploy on device. it only says: run custom executable (that is if i select the arm kits)
[13:25] <zbenjamin> techneut92: qmake or cmake project?
[13:26] <zbenjamin> techneut92: and is it a project created from a Ubuntu template? Or your custom one
[13:26] <techneut92_> soo... i made my ubuntu-sdk crash.. thats some progress :|
[13:27] <zbenjamin> techneut92: good job ;)How did you do it
[13:28] <techneut92_> change the Qt version of a kit
[13:28] <techneut92_> and press apply
[13:28] <popey> ahayzen: if you have no internet connection, thumbnails don't load in artist/album view - we had a bug for that didn't we?
[13:29] <ahayzen> popey, not sure if we have a bug .. but it is a bug yes
[13:29] <popey> in music or thumbnailer?
[13:29] <ahayzen> popey, the thumbnailer still attempts to look them up even if they are cached locally :/ ... thumbnailer ;)
[13:29] <popey> thought so
[13:30]  * ahayzen wants the code for bug 1372000 to land 
[13:30] <ahayzen> popey, i don't see an existing bug report
[13:30] <popey> ok, filing one
[13:31] <ahayzen> popey, thanks ...  IIRC the thumbnailer are slow to load on a slow network connection as well? eg if you put your device into 2g mode?
[13:31] <ahayzen> popey, its like it tries to find it via its online source first and then once it realises its the same as the cache then shows it
[13:34] <popey> ahayzen: https://bugs.launchpad.net/thumbnailer/+bug/1401109
[13:35] <ahayzen> popey, awesome thanks i'll double check i can still get it and confirm it :)
[13:35] <popey> ta
[13:35] <techneut92_> this is really frustrating .. i think qt quick applications cant yet be deployed to the device?
[13:35] <ahayzen> "cable modem"
[13:37] <ahayzen> popey, can you just check that if... you disable WiFi and cellular data...then it infact does show the images?
[13:38] <popey> checked and added comment
[13:38] <ahayzen> popey, i can get a similar behaviour if i enable only 2g ... it then takes a while for it to then load the images
[13:39] <ahayzen> popey, so if it thinks there is the possibility of a network connection then it attempts to use that rather than showing the images?
[13:39] <popey> yes
[13:40] <popey> ahayzen: also, in 755 I put "Now 87" and I have about 22 albums showing now, all called "Now 87" each with one track in
[13:40] <ahayzen> popey, thats sounds possible ;)
[13:40] <popey> ☻
[13:41] <ahayzen> popey, it all depends on what has made your metadata and if the albumArtist tag is correct ;)
[13:41] <ahayzen> popey, does it have 'various artists' in there?
[13:41] <popey> in where?
[13:42] <popey> it has "Now 87" in the album field according to nautilus
[13:42] <ahayzen> popey, the albumArtists ID3 tag or whichever format your using
[13:42] <popey> artist is the real artist
[13:42] <popey> title is the track name.
[13:43] <ahayzen> popey, there is an albumArtist one as well apparently which should be 'Various Artists' for it then to work IIRC.. let me find the bug where james explained it for us
[13:43] <popey> k
[13:43] <ahayzen> popey, https://bugs.launchpad.net/music-app/+bug/1377510/comments/2
[13:44] <ahayzen> popey, the last paragraph being the important one
[13:44] <popey> ok, so i need to fix the id tag in this album
[13:44] <popey> thats fine
[13:44] <ahayzen> popey, but he does claim 'This will also handle cases where the album artist isn't set to the generic name "Various Artists"'
[13:45] <ahayzen> popey, oh the next comment as well ;) https://bugs.launchpad.net/music-app/+bug/1377510/comments/3
[13:45] <popey> ok
[13:45] <ahayzen> popey, which format are they?
[13:45] <popey> mp3
[13:46] <ahayzen> popey, so the TPE2 tag
[13:46] <ahayzen> yey mp3 \o/
[13:46] <ahayzen> which is the "Band/orchestra/accompaniment"
[14:27] <zbenjamin> techneut92_: you can not change Qt version of a ubuntu kit, it needs to be autodetected
[14:55] <mihir> hey popey
[14:55] <balloons> hey mihir!
[14:55] <popey> hi mihir
[14:55] <mihir> hey balloons
[14:56] <mihir> how are you guys doing ?
[14:56] <balloons> congrats, I hope everything is excellent for you
[14:56] <mihir> balloons: sorry i am out and couldn't take much look on the MPs but I made sure that , i responded timely to Andrea  :)
[14:56] <balloons> It's QA Day for the core apps hacking, so I'm happy :-)
[14:56] <popey> mihir: how were the celebrations?
[14:57] <mihir> popey: amazing , i'll upload some pics and send you guys links.
[14:57] <mihir> we had 3 days functions , and damn tired .
[14:57] <mihir> i just got my laptop now just tired, i am feeling sad, couldn't contribute to the hack days :|
[14:58] <popey> mihir: look forward to seeing them!
[14:59] <mihir> popey: i have one , uploaded by friend http://goo.gl/hYNV87
[14:59] <popey> check you out!
[14:59] <popey> You had a shave and everything! ☻
[15:00] <rpadovani> congrats :D
[15:00] <mihir> hahahahah thanks a lot rpadovani  :)
[15:01] <mihir> rpadovani: indeed great work and fast cycle on calculator :)
[15:01] <rpadovani> :)
[15:43] <popey> mihir: do you know why the sync refresh icon might disappear for someone in the list of calendars view?
[15:43] <popey> (ogra has this issue - I do not)
[15:45] <mihir> popey: it works on my side, will check
[15:45] <popey> i think we only show it under certain circumstances
[15:45] <ogra_> http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/cal.png
[15:47] <mihir> Hmm I don't remember I need to  check.
[15:47] <ogra_> well, if you dont need any data from me, i'd just remove the calendar app and all traces of it and re-install
[15:48] <ogra_> just didnt do that yet in case you need something
[15:48] <mihir> Hmm popey are facing same issues?
[15:48] <popey> no, fine here
[15:48] <popey> https://imgur.com/ygyP8S1 is what I see
[15:48] <mihir> Hmm ogra_ can you try reinstalling?
[15:49] <ogra_> sure
[15:52] <ogra_> mihir, i wiped all traces of evolution, calendar and syncevolution in my home ... removed the app, re-installed it ... no button
[15:53] <ogra_> it shows my events without sync though ... not sure where that comes from
[15:53] <mihir> Hmmm ogra_ I will check and revert back
[15:54] <ogra_> imho that shouldnt be there ... hmm
[15:56] <ogra_> does the app not have its own app dir somewhere ?
[15:56] <ogra_> i dont seem to be able to find one
[15:57]  * ogra_ would really like to know where these events come from 
[16:03] <mihir> All events are coming from eds
[16:04] <mihir> I mean that helps syncing with Google
[16:07] <ogra_> yeah, they are gone after a reboot
[16:07] <ogra_> i still dont have the sync button though ... just switched to english, phone is reboting now
[16:08] <ogra_> seems the running syncevo instance didnt properly clean up without reboot
[16:08] <ogra_> mihir, ok, switching to en_US gets me a button
[16:09] <ogra_> and i get a proper notification tapping it
[16:09] <mihir> ogra_: weird
[16:09] <mihir> ogra_: I got that I guess
[16:10] <ogra_> you are missing the translation for "arrow going in a circle" for sure :P
[16:10] <popey> heh
[16:10] <popey> can you file a bug please ogra_ ?
[16:10] <popey> lp:ubuntu-calendar-app
[16:10] <ogra_> popey, after meetings ...
[16:10] <popey> k
[16:11] <mihir> ogra_: nope my guess was wrong, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-calendar-dev/ubuntu-calendar-app/trunk/view/head:/CalendarChoicePopup.qml#L51
[16:12] <mihir> i thought we haven't used translation , but we have alread did.
[16:12] <mihir> ogra_: but will check
[16:19] <ogra_> mihir, reading that code comment, perhaps the german translation exceeds 15 chars
[16:19] <mihir> yup i guess.
[16:20] <mihir> ogra_: but if we don't then it exceed and overlap the space.
[16:20] <mihir> popey: ^^
[16:20] <ogra_> "Aktualisieren" only has 13 though ...
[16:20] <ogra_> not sure what the actual translation is (just guessing)
[16:22] <mihir> ogra_: it is Syncing.
[16:22] <mihir> ogra_: so in German it is Synchronisieren
[16:23] <mihir> it is exact 15 I guess.
[16:23] <ogra_> so that 15 is probably a mis-count ?
[16:23] <ogra_> and it only supports 14 or so
[16:24] <mihir> ogra_: need to check in rosetta
[16:25] <ogra_> is there a way i can edit translations on the fly ?
[16:25]  * ogra_ assumes not 
[16:25]  * mihir checks the pot files
[16:26] <ogra_> lol
[16:26] <ogra_> i switched back to german
[16:26] <ogra_> button is there
[16:27] <mihir> ogra_: ahhh :-o really
[16:27] <mihir> ogra_: i wonder , http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-calendar-dev/ubuntu-calendar-app/trunk/view/head:/po/de.po#L147
[16:28] <mihir> if you notice that there is soemthing wrong with syncing Translation , isn't it?
[16:30] <ogra_> yeah, might be ... hard to tell what that was
[16:32] <ogra_> the translation seems fine (i would have picked "Aktualisieren" simply because it is shorter, but it also is less correct ...
[16:36] <mihir> Hmm but ogra_ i don't understand what is Synchronisierung läuft means?
[16:37] <mihir> when i use google to translate Syncing to German , it says Synchronisieren
[16:37] <ogra_> mihir, thats the popup message test
[16:37] <ogra_> "Sync running"
[16:40] <ogra_> s/test/text/ (indeed)