[00:33] <chrisccoulson> infinity, those flash builds are fine
[00:54] <tumbleweed> SRU team: Sorry I forgot to set DEB_VENDOR and get the LP bug into the changes file for bug 1368418, but it's aged 7 days, and I've verified it.
[00:54] <ubot2> bug 1368418 in zaqar "Fatal RPython error: KeyError/Crash in JIT!" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1368418
[01:48] <RAOF> Urgh.
[06:07] <infinity> chrisccoulson_: Released those flash uploads.
[09:20] <mlankhorst> thanks
[09:46] <mlankhorst> can someone remove xorg-server from -proposed? superceeded by a security update
[10:38] <mlankhorst> infinity: ^ enjoy!
[13:30] <cjwatson> proposed-migration is now fully merged up with Debian's lp:britney
[13:30] <cjwatson> some minor changes in output, shouldn't be anything horrible
[17:50] <ogra_> temporary disabled the system-image importer since we need to do a coordinated landing of a device tarball for the phone
[18:14] <ogra_> system-image importer re-enabled
[23:03] <sil2100> Hey! I'm looking for an archive admin that could help me out with some -proposed cleanup!
[23:04] <sil2100> infinity, slangasek: any of you around?
[23:08] <sil2100> Or at least is there anyone that can help me with interpreting update_output.txt?
[23:15] <infinity> sil2100: I can help interpret.
[23:15] <sil2100> infinity: so, I'm trying to push upower 0.99 to ubuntu-rtm, and I synced/rebuilt many of the packages that are needed but now:
[23:15] <sil2100> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/ubuntu-rtm/update_output.txt
[23:16] <sil2100> infinity: I think I'm sometimes misunderstanding the 'Trying easy...' parts
[23:16] <infinity> sil2100: Start from the bottom (ie: the largest autohint block).
[23:16] <infinity>     * i386: firefox-testsuite, gnome-control-center, gnome-session, gnome-settings-daemon, ubuntu-session, unity-control-center, unity-control-center-signon, unity-control-center-signon-autopilot, unity-settings-daemon
[23:17] <infinity> sil2100: ^-- Which tells you that when the massive autohint goes in, those binaries are uninstallable.
[23:17] <infinity> sil2100: And then instead of blindly rebuilding and hoping, perhaps try in a chroot and see why. :)
[23:18] <sil2100> infinity: I'm actually trying on my rtm device, not acting blindly ;) But I need to know actually which packages I should try installing
[23:18] <sil2100> infinity: since my normal way was to actually try installing the packages that it says are non-installable
[23:19] <sil2100> infinity: but not sure if that's what I should be doing
[23:20] <infinity> sil2100: So, you need to try installing all of the above binaries together while also removing the old library you're transitioning away.
[23:20] <infinity> sil2100: Obviously, with -proposed enabled. :)
[23:20] <infinity> sil2100: So "apt-get install thing1 thing2 thing3 oldlib-"
[23:21] <sil2100> Ah! Removing the old lib, crap
[23:22] <sil2100> But by 'installing all above binaries' do you mean those source packages that are listed next to "Trying easy from autohinter"?
[23:22] <sil2100> Since those are source packages listed there
[23:29] <sil2100> infinity: let's say for instance I look at the last line, and there's "armhf: firefox-testsuite, gnome-control-center, gnome-settings-daemon, unity-control-center, unity-control-center-signon, unity-settings-daemon"
[23:30] <sil2100> infinity: when I actually try installin those while removing the old library (e.g. libupower-glib1-) then apt-get actually tells me that it's got issues with installing language packs, which I suppose might be unrelated
[23:31] <sil2100> With things like:
[23:31] <sil2100>  firefox-testsuite : Depends: language-pack-en-base but it is not going to be installed
[23:31] <infinity> Add "language-pack-en-base" to the install line.
[23:31] <infinity> To see why it won't install.
[23:33] <sil2100> hm, so now I don't get it for instance - so when I added language-pack-en-base, it said it cannot install because it depends on language-pack-en - when I added both (and the same for all the other langpacks) it all installs fine
[23:34] <sil2100> e.g. apt-get -s install firefox-testsuite gnome-control-center gnome-settings-daemon unity-control-center unity-control-center-signon unity-settings-daemon libupower-glib1- language-pack-en-base language-pack-en language-pack-es-base language-pack-es language-pack-fr-base language-pack-fr language-pack-pt-base language-pack-pt <- works fine
[23:34] <sil2100> So my question is, what does that mean ;p?
[23:34] <infinity> Not sure.  I might need an rtm chroot here.
[23:35] <sil2100> (I suck at transitions)
[23:35]  * infinity grabs a tarballs.
[23:36] <infinity> s/lls/ll/
[23:38] <sil2100> Thanks for the help, I should have used some better tools to prepare for this
[23:38] <sil2100> Or simply drop this transition and indeed just hack up an ugly touch-and-rtm-specific upower package
[23:42] <infinity> Err, wait.
[23:42] <infinity> sil2100: Is ubuntu-rtm actually published anywhere visible to my laptop?
[23:42] <sil2100> hm, it should be, it's a derived distribution so I suppose it should be fetchable from anywhere
[23:43] <infinity> sil2100: I mean the apt archive, not the launchpad bits.
[23:43] <sil2100> http://derived.archive.canonical.com/ubuntu-rtm/ etc.
[23:43] <infinity> sil2100: As in, what does your sources.list look like when you're testing this.
[23:43] <infinity> Kay.
[23:43] <infinity> That should do.
[23:44] <sil2100> The series is of course 14.09 ;)
[23:44]  * infinity nods.
[23:47] <sil2100> Oh
[23:47] <sil2100> hmm
[23:48] <sil2100> I might see one potential problem!
[23:49] <sil2100> infinity: ok, part of the problem I see already
[23:50] <infinity> sil2100: Which is?
[23:50] <sil2100> infinity: so, I actually need to re-build ubuntu-system-settings, since strangely the one I wanted to push with the silo (and transition) ended up with the same version as what's in the archive
[23:50] <sil2100> So basically u-s-s still deps on the old upower
[23:51] <sil2100> But I'm not sure if that's the whole source of the problem
[23:51] <sil2100> Since I only saw this in the second-from-the-end autohint try
[23:51] <infinity> sil2100: libupower-glib1 is the package you're trying to remove?
[23:51] <sil2100> infinity: yes, it's replaced by libupower-glib3
[23:53] <infinity> sil2100: Hrm.  I'm not pulling in the old one here.
[23:53] <sil2100> infinity: on a chroot?
[23:53] <infinity> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9468925/
[23:55] <sil2100> infinity: yeah, since the package left that's probably pulling it in is ubuntu-system-settings
[23:56] <infinity> Oh, indeed.  But weird that I'm not seeing that as a blocker here.
[23:56] <sil2100> infinity: the list of packages from the lowest autohinter doesn't seem to pull it, so I don't know why it's there...
[23:56] <sil2100> Is that an i386 chroot?
[23:56] <sil2100> Since maybe the problem is in i386, but all is fine in armhf and amd64 (and those are just listed there for no reason?)
[23:56] <sil2100> I only checked it for armhf currently
[23:56] <infinity> It's an i386 chroot.
[23:57] <sil2100> hmmm
[23:57] <infinity> Anyhow, ubuntu-system-settings definitely needs a transition, you're right.
[23:57] <infinity> Why my current install set works probably has more to do with me needing to install all those binaries *and* the binaries from the sources being hinted.
[23:58] <sil2100> Thanks for all the pointers, no I guess update_output.txt has less quesitonmarks in my brain
[23:58] <infinity> Which is a longer and more tedious line to construct. ;)
[23:58] <sil2100> Indeed, eek
[23:58] <sil2100> If I could ask you to (just in case) not remove your ubuntu-rtm chroot that would be sweet ;p I might have some more questions once u-s-s is pushed and the transition is still not complete
[23:59] <cjwatson> Don't take the bottom autohinter block, take the top autohinter block after final:
[23:59] <infinity> sil2100: Yeah, I'm not deleting it.
[23:59] <cjwatson> They tend to be ordered from more complete to less complete