[00:00] <pero> EriC^^, im basically trying to install amd's prop drivers but i have a conflict with wine
[00:00] <fun> hi folks
[00:00] <pero> EriC^^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9448380/
[00:00] <fun> if I set folder permission to 0755 any local user can write to the folder?
[00:01] <RickX> is paid support available for individuals
[00:01] <Laire> Hello, after a restart today i cant connect to my ubuntu home server. ifconfig shows me p2p1 as Ethernet connection but only a inet6 adress but no inet4 adress, my router doesnt support ip6
[00:01] <tman1375> hey guys...brand new to ubuntu or Linux for that matter...part of my CTS 285 course...seem to like it though but soooooo much to learn
[00:01] <Laire> connection over ssh or amb are not possible
[00:02] <Laire> amb = smb
[00:02] <honey> hmm.. what
[00:03] <k1l_> RickX: canonical offers that, iirc.
[00:03] <RickX> k1l_: cann you point me to some place to read/order?
[00:04] <Bashing-om> tman1375: " soooooo much to learn "; No step for a stepper . Millions are using linux, can not be that tough . Just a learning curve is all .
[00:04] <rypervenche> fun: Nope, they can read from it though.
[00:04] <honey> no it is tough when you cant the shit you need.
[00:04] <rypervenche> fun: Only the owner of said folder can write to it.
[00:04] <fun> ty
[00:04] <k1l_> RickX: http://www.ubuntu.com/management
[00:05] <antonieta> Buenas noches. ¿Hay alguien aquí que sepa español y pueda ayudarme a instalar un programa?
[00:05] <k1l_> !es | antonieta
[00:05] <rypervenche> tman1375: Welcome to Linux :)
[00:05] <antonieta> ¡Gracias!
[00:05] <RickX> k1l_: thanks, I have a contact form into them.
[00:06] <honey> maybe i should join spanish ubuntu?
[00:06] <honey> that might help,
[00:07] <antonieta> Como que sí, honey.
[00:07] <honey> no i dont como anywhere.
[00:08] <antonieta> No comprendo.
[00:08] <EriC^^> pero: have you solved your issue yet?
[00:09] <k1l_> honey: please stop spoiling the supportchannel.
[00:09] <honey> spoiling? i thought this was english speaking.
[00:09] <honey> if i could type out my issue again i would.
[00:10] <honey> but last night no one seemed to respond.
[00:10] <k1l_> !guidelines > honey
[00:10] <Pinkamena_D> does anyone know, when I am googling, if the multi touch for the tablet screen has another name from the multi touch of the trackpad? I have both devices on my laptop and while the trackpad multitouch seems great and tablet is very difficult to deal with.
[00:10] <Pinkamena_D> it will only scroll if I press very hard and I think that this should be adjustable somewhere
[00:10] <honey> im sorry k1l_ did you read my issue last night?
[00:10] <dangerranger11b> I am using ubuntu on my hp pavilion G6 when I close my lid& open the computer turns on but not the screen. I have searched on-line but have yet to find a solution I have messed with the display options and power manager but no fixie. Also important to note I am new to linux and haven't quite got down the terminal
[00:11] <k1l_> honey: if you have a technical ubuntu support question ask it
[00:11] <EriC^^> dangerranger11b: type lshw -C video | grep driver
[00:11] <honey> i did in depth last night.
[00:12] <EriC^^> honey: everybody should scroll back then, doh
[00:12]  * EriC^^ is scrolling back
[00:12]  * EriC^^ was lying
[00:12] <honey> ok.. good.. grab the pastebins too. jk.
[00:13] <k1l_> honey: last time now: dont spoil this channel. that is unfair for users who really seek help. either you ask your support question or you leave now. thanks
[00:13] <honey> ok.. fix my ubuntu why it wont get 5.1 digital surround sound.
[00:13] <k1l_> !attitude > honey
[00:13] <honey> and please calm your tone with me.. i am trying.
[00:14] <dangerranger11b> I get configuration: driver=radeon latency=0 what next
[00:15] <lyle> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9448746/plain/
[00:16] <lyle> maybe I should try again in html
[00:17] <lesmo> Anybody know how I would go about setting up my Outlook.com/Hotmail/Live email account so I can get email, contacts and calendar in Evolution? I've tried using MAPI extension, but it asks for a Domain and won't let me leave it blank.
[00:18] <basketballlll> hey i have a samsung galaxy tab 4 10.1 how can i root using terminal
[00:19] <k1l_> basketballlll: that depends on the method working for your tablet. best is to see the android community for howtos for that specific tablet.
[00:19] <basketballlll> k1l_:  i want to use terminal
[00:20] <lyle> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9448792/
[00:21] <lyle> I must be typing command wrong
[00:21] <rypervenche> lyle: Type "cd /media/lyle/Sea" then press tab
[00:21] <rypervenche> lyle: Then press enter after that
[00:22] <basketballlll> k1l_:  are there generic commands to use
[00:23] <k1l_> basketballlll: no. like i said that depends on the exact hardware. so best is to see the android community like on xda-developers or the android channels on freenode.
[00:23] <lyle> That did it dont know how will ever get this right..... "sudo apt-clone clone specify_destination_path_here"
[00:25] <rypervenche> lyle: What are you trying to accomplish?
[00:25] <lyle> move my programs to a laptop
[00:26] <lyle> wish there was a graphical way
[00:27] <lyle> I could have reinstalled them by now.   I guess I learned something though
[00:27] <rypervenche> lyle: There is an easier way to do this. You can take a list of all installed packages from your computer and then install that same list of packages to the laptop.
[00:28] <lyle> That might be easier.   I have downloaded a ton of programs though
[00:28] <lyle> gigs of stuff
[00:29] <rypervenche> lyle: If they have all been installed from the repos, it would be best to get them that way. Someone in here can get you the exact command, I don't remember it off hand. I believe it's a dpkg command with --get-selection or something.
[00:30] <daftykins> possibly "dpkg --get-selections > file.txt"
[00:32] <Bashing-om> lyle: From old install >>dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , From New install >> sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages , sudo apt-get -y update , sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade .
[00:34] <lyle> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9448923/
[00:34] <DocPlatypus> ok... I just had to reboot because my filesystem was suddenly mounted read-only due to an error. now that I am back up and running again, my USB drives do not automatically mount
[00:34] <DocPlatypus> Gnome Classic on 12.04 if it matters
[00:35] <lyle> that a lot of downloading
[00:38] <UTL> Hey there again. I've worked around the SD card problem (but haven't fixed the errors). Now I have another question: I want to be able to see my SD card partitioned with the ext4 filesystem under Windows 7. I'm going to try to boot Ubuntu Touch from it.
[00:39] <nully> UTL: That is a windows7 question. (As in be able to see ext4 in windows, which by default i am told it does not support)
[00:41] <awatt> hi
[00:41] <UTL> The question is: How do I do it? Is there another file manager I can use? The ones I've found are either too old or read-only. Believe me, this is for the benefit of Ubuntu Touch, so despite the fact that I might be asking a "Windows question", I'd still like some recommendations from anybody here.
[00:42] <awatt> i have problem with my bluetooth, its a phone bluetoot and laptop bluetooth . it connects but disconnetsafte few secounds
[00:42] <UTL> Remember: I still have problems writing to my SD card under Ubuntu.
[00:43] <OerHeks> UTL, maybe this page is any help http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-read-ext3ext4-linux-partition-from-windows-7.html
[00:43] <UTL> Hey! Didn't run across that before! I'll take a look...
[00:43] <awatt> utl , use ntfs-3g file system
[00:44] <awatt> next time lol
[00:47] <mirak_> I had to remove many package
[00:48] <mirak_> how can i put back as much package automatically as I can ?
[00:48] <UTL> Well... it's interesting, but does Ext2Fsd write to ext4?
[00:48] <DocPlatypus> the Windows drivers all only support ext2 only
[00:48] <mirak_> like if i removed xserver-xorg-video-radeon
[00:48] <DocPlatypus> err threw an extra only in there
[00:48] <mirak_> how is it supposed to be reinstalled automaticcaly ?
[00:48] <DocPlatypus> they might do ext3 if fsck'd but they will not journal
[00:49] <mirak_> please
[00:49] <EriC^^> mirak_: cat listofpackages | xargs sudo apt-get install
[00:50] <mirak_> EriC^^, this is not what I mean
[00:50] <UTL> Ack! That won't help! Thanks anyway, though.
[00:50] <EriC^^> listofpackages is a file with the list of the packages
[00:50] <mirak_> the radeon driver is installed by default I think when you install ubuntu, even with debootstrap
[00:50] <mirak_> after installing ubuntu-desktop at least
[00:50] <awatt> i have problem with my bluetooth, its a phone bluetoot and laptop bluetooth . it connects but disconnects after few seconds
[00:51] <EriC^^> mirak_: ok..
[00:52] <mirak_> I think that have something to do with package manually removed
[00:52] <mirak_> or manually installed
[00:52] <alexw> I'm trying to run "find /path/to/cache -type f -exec rm {}\; " as sudo
[00:52] <alexw> should I create an executable script and add it into sudoers :S
[00:52] <dangerranger11b> I asked a little while ago but never really got an answerer. when I shut and open my lid the computer turns on but the screen wont. new to linux and not really very good yet at the terminal
[00:53] <EriC^^> alexw: what are you trying to achieve?
[00:53] <dangerranger11b> it is a pavilion g6
[00:53] <alexw> Running that command as root
[00:53] <alexw> Nginx is a pain in the ass (I can't change the folder permissions)
[00:53] <alexw> So I need to run the command as root so it can remove the files (which the user doesn't own)
[00:54] <alexw> Sudoers doesn't allow for all for this user
[00:54] <alexw> So my idea was - if it create a script i can add it into the sudoers
[00:54] <EriC^^> alexw: just add sudo before rm, -exec sudo rm
[00:54] <NegativeFlare> !enter | alexw
[00:54] <NegativeFlare> bah
[00:54] <rypervenche> alexw: Why not just run it as the root user?
[00:54] <alexw> It's coming from a deploy script which runs as the deploy user
[00:55] <alexw> the folder has www-data (owner) root (group)
[00:55] <alexw> so the deploy user can't remove the files
[00:55] <rypervenche> Ok, then what EriC^^ said would work.
[00:55] <alexw> Mhmm but sudo won't work because sudoers is limited to specific functions for the deploy user
[00:56] <alexw> I.e. not as ALL
[00:57] <EriC^^> alexw: does cache only contain files?
[00:59] <EriC^^> alexw: nevermind, sudo find propagates to the exec
[00:59] <MrSavage> i broke my ubuntu
[00:59] <NegativeFlare> MrSavage: Explain?
[00:59] <MrSavage> when i login nothing loads. The taskbar doesn't show, the tray doesn't show
[00:59] <MrSavage> i think i messed up my packages
[00:59] <EriC^^> alexw: add the find function to the sudoers, as find /path/to/cache ..
[00:59] <lyle> Last question   why? PermissionError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/media/lyle/apt-clone-state-lyle
[01:00] <MrSavage> the tray shows for the gui login, but disappears
[01:01] <fun> folks I an restarting service and I get http://pastebin.com/FQTJTuJ8
[01:01] <fun> bizzare
[01:01] <fun> works with sudo
[01:01] <EriC^^> alexw: i guess it's still a vulnerability as somebody could add whatever path he wanted and execute whatever though
[01:01] <MrSavage> NegativeFlare: what do i do
[01:02] <NegativeFlare> MrSavage: I'm really not sure what's going on with it.
[01:02] <NegativeFlare> It seems like you've broken the session
[01:02] <MrSavage> Anyone know how to repair your packages?'
[01:02] <Ben64> fun: well yeah, you need sudo to make changes to the system
[01:02] <MrSavage> my ubuntu software manager froze when it was repairing and i restarted. Now my taskbar is gone, same with tray
[01:02] <MrSavage> i only see a mouse and wallpaper
[01:02] <MrSavage> I'm working through the tty terminals atm
[01:03] <NegativeFlare> MrSavage: Have you checked the logs?
[01:04] <MrSavage> NegativeFlare: what logs? where is it
[01:05] <NegativeFlare> MrSavage: the ones in /var/log?
[01:05] <NegativeFlare> MrSavage: for example, the Xorg.0.log file
[01:07] <cleaner_evil> aqui quien habla español nadie?
[01:11] <dangerranger11b> I asked a little while ago but never really got an answerer. when I shut and open my lid the computer turns on but the screen wont. new to linux and not really very good yet at the terminal
[01:19] <MrSavage> my ubuntu software manager froze when it was repairing and i restarted. Now my taskbar is gone, same with tray
[01:21] <awatt> hi
[01:22] <MrSavage> yeah it's still broken
[01:22] <MrSavage> not sure what to do
[01:33] <claudio> Boa noite
[01:33] <claudio> Alguem usa o git que poderia me tirar uma duvida?
[01:33] <joescript> hello
[01:33] <daftykins> !br | claudio
[01:34] <joescript> has anyone ran into citrix issue b4? is it ubuntu or the browser that make it crash
[01:34] <joescript> ???
[01:37] <joescript> yo
[01:37] <Deihmos> installed ubuntu on a usb drive. so far so good
[01:38] <Deihmos> someitmes it locks up though
[02:11] <xdexter> Hello, ,It is possible to add a shortcut to a particular folder in the sidebar of ubuntu 14.10?
[02:21] <astropirate> Hello friends
[02:22] <astropirate> How can I make a test SSH connection. I don't want an actual session... I just want to make sure that my keys work and there are no issues with known_hosts etc
[02:22] <orlock> dont type in your password?
[02:22] <orlock> why not just make a real connection
[02:22] <astropirate> then its just a fail :|
[02:23] <astropirate> i want to check if the credentials are correct
[02:23] <orlock> key erros should occur before you are prompted for a password
[02:23] <quidnunc> astropirate: Why do you want to do that?
[02:23] <astropirate> I'll explain my situation
[02:23] <orlock> astropirate: then just logout straight away?
[02:23] <orlock> you dont want somebody to see you trying
[02:24] <astropirate> We are doing some server deploys using Chef. Currently we have a script that makes an SSH connection and runs the chef client on the remote server
[02:24] <astropirate> very recently i ran into an issue where the host server's keys had changed by someone else on the team so our script failed
[02:25] <astropirate> I would like to make sure things like that are all working before continuing
[02:25] <quidnunc> astropirate: So the reason you don't want a session is because you want to script the connections?
[02:25] <orlock> astropirate: then just have ssh run a remote command like "uname -a" or ls or something
[02:25] <astropirate> it failed because the known_host record of the server pub key was different
[02:25] <astropirate> quidnunc, yes
[02:25] <quidnunc> astropirate: If so, then run a command like orlock said
[02:25] <astropirate> orlock, that's not a bad idea
[02:26] <orlock> astropirate: i used to have a pile of scripts for running PS and uname and rpm -qa, etc via ssh and dumping the results centally
[02:26] <astropirate> I was just wondering if SSH client had some flag or something that did what I wanted
[02:26] <orlock> astropirate: there are those too
[02:26] <marcelino> .close
[02:27] <astropirate> Thanks friends
[02:46] <server_> hi
[02:47] <Chaser> Hello, is it possible to install teamviewer 10 on ubuntu 14.10 ? I tried i386 and the multi arch and both fail to install stating unmet dependencies. The dependencies according to apt are not installable. Eg: "teamviewer : Depends: lib32asound2 but it is not installable
[02:49] <exarco> Does anyone here have any experience with libssl and libcrypto disappearing?
[02:49] <exarco> Like, not even showing up
[03:02] <NegativeFlare> Chaser: You're going to have to wait on Teamviewer's packaging team to fix that
[03:06] <kadercavdar> Fuck you vote for me, I swear to add this account to access my facebook http://strawpoll.me/3100584
[03:06] <kadercavdar> https://www.facebook.com/kader.cavdar.5?fref=ts
[03:06] <NegativeFlare> Ok then
[03:27] <ChogyDan> Chaser: are you 32bit or 64?
[03:27] <InFlames> this might not be an ubuntu-specific question, but say i format my drive and want to setup the same development environment as i previously had (git, sublime text, etc) what is a good means to automate this process? (bash scripting, puppet, other?)
[03:28] <linuxmint> Hello, is there a channel on how to setup NFS?
[03:29] <ChogyDan> InFlames: I've been using bash scripting, but I don't know about other options like puppet
[03:31] <InFlames> Choggy, I suppose bash isn't too bad, it's how i'd do it manually after all
[03:31] <InFlames> ChogyDan, any suggestions on a good means to TEST it? box?
[03:31] <InFlames> virtualbox*
[03:31] <rhllor> hey there! anybody run ubuntu on mac?
[03:32] <InFlames> rhllor, i have before, not a big fan
[03:32] <ChogyDan> InFlames: no, I dunno.  I just add to the bash script when I find something missing.  Nothing official that I do
[03:33] <InFlames> i figure i can test in a vm and be sure it's working correctly
[03:35] <rhllor> well, at the moment I have a Macbook 3,1. Just a macbook, not macbook pro. The ubuntu page says I can only run upto 10.10 which really sucks. On the other hand, I'm running windows on bootcamp, so I've considered running like 12.04 or something via Wubi. What are your thoughts?
[03:35] <rhllor> I had an Asus Eee PC before that ran 12.04, and I really miss Ubuntu
[03:35] <ChogyDan> why can't bootcamp run ubuntu?
[03:36] <rhllor> isn't bootcamp just for windows?
[03:37] <ChogyDan> rhllor: dunno
[03:37] <ChogyDan> Chaser: there is a fix for teamviewer listed in the documentation, if you are still there
[03:37] <rhllor> I'm pretty sure it is.
[03:37] <rhllor> you know what, never mind
[03:38] <comand> ho to all
[03:38] <muf4D4rk> hi
[03:39] <comand> how are you?
[03:41] <bencc> how can I check the file descriptor limit of a user?
[03:44] <guinslym> How to change the language (locale) for the ubuntu terminal? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/27387199/how-to-change-the-language-locale-for-the-ubuntu-terminal
[03:45] <p0rkbelly> having trouble installing 14.10 alongside Win Boot Mgr. When I do "install alongside" it's automatically selecting sdb as a disk, I want to install it on a different partition on sda
[03:45] <p0rkbelly> not getting a choice...
[03:46] <kadercavdar> Fuck you vote for me, I swear to add this account to access my facebook http://strawpoll.me/3100584
[03:46] <kadercavdar> https://www.facebook.com/kader.cavdar.5?fref=ts
[03:46] <madden-s> whats up ppl
[03:47] <muf4D4rk> sup
[03:47] <madden-s> chilling
[03:47] <muf4D4rk> yee
[03:47] <madden-s> where are you from muf
[03:47] <muf4D4rk> FL
[03:47] <madden-s> cool
[03:47] <muf4D4rk> u?
[03:47] <madden-s> i use to live there
[03:47] <madden-s> ohio
[03:47] <madden-s> for now
[03:47] <muf4D4rk> nice
[03:47] <muf4D4rk> cool winter
[03:48] <madden-s> very cod winter
[03:48] <madden-s> cold
[03:48] <muf4D4rk> cold :D
[03:48] <muf4D4rk> u using ubuntu ?
[03:48] <madden-s> yeah
[03:48] <muf4D4rk> im back box
[03:48] <madden-s> what part of fl are you
[03:49] <madden-s> i lived at vero beach
[03:49] <muf4D4rk> im kissimi
[03:49] <madden-s> and Merritt island
[03:49] <madden-s> cool
[03:49] <madden-s> you was like hr north of me
[03:49] <madden-s> when i live there
[03:49] <muf4D4rk> pretty nice here
[03:49] <muf4D4rk> i was in  MA
[03:49] <madden-s> boston??
[03:49] <muf4D4rk> ye
[03:50] <madden-s> are you using ubuntu
[03:50] <muf4D4rk> im using backbox pentesting distribution
[03:50] <muf4D4rk> i finish config everything
[03:50] <madden-s> thats cool
[03:51] <madden-s> i am thinking about setting up a irc server
[03:51] <madden-s> not sure
[03:51] <muf4D4rk> im thinkint to configure domain  but im not sure yet
[03:52] <madden-s> how old are you
[03:52] <muf4D4rk> im 23
[03:52] <muf4D4rk> u ?
[03:52] <madden-s> cool
[03:52] <madden-s> 35
[03:52] <muf4D4rk> good
[03:52] <cfhowlett> guys ... ubuntu support please.  or go to #ubuntu-offtopic or PM
[03:52] <muf4D4rk> im no fan of irq
[03:52] <cfhowlett> thank you.
[03:52] <cfhowlett> !ot
[03:52] <madden-s> sorry
[03:53] <muf4D4rk> ok
[03:53] <muf4D4rk>  im going to offtopic
[03:53] <muf4D4rk> thx
[04:04] <vastkahuna> How can I check my hard drive health in ubuntu?
[04:04] <holstein> i use gsmartcontrol, vastkahuna
[04:05] <holstein> it actually still looks a lot like this, http://linuxhub.net/2010/09/scan-your-hard-disk-with-gsmartcontrol-on-ubuntu-10-10/ and i want to do that from a live iso, not the running installation
[04:05] <vastkahuna> So is that a command I input in the terminal or a program I need to download?
[04:05] <p0rkbelly> trying to dual boot 14.10 with Windows. When I go to select the partition to install (not using the automatic tool). I create two partitions and mount one as root. I don't see the ability to create a swap partition though?
[04:05] <p0rkbelly> will ubuntu know that one partition is for swap automagically
[04:05] <holstein> vastkahuna: i would boot a live iso, and install that tool, and use it
[04:06] <vastkahuna> OK thanks
[04:06] <holstein> p0rkbelly: if not, you can "fix" that easily later
[04:06] <cfhowlett> !swap | p0rkbelly,
[04:08] <p0rkbelly> I figured it out. Duh. Had one partition ext4 formatted not swap
[04:08] <cfhowlett> p0rkbelly, that there is some detective work, Lou!
[04:13] <daniel_> hey there
[04:15] <pantato> I'm having an issue where I'm running a game in linux, and I am getting 400+ FPS, but it's really choppy, like I'm getting 20-30 fps. I did some searching and some people reported the same issue but they were using KDE, and I'm using Cinnamon. I installed and launched fluxbox to narrow the issue and the game runs fine if X launches into fluxbox.
[04:15] <pantato> whoa my message got cut off
[04:15] <pantato> Ok, so, the issue is, my game is choppy when I run it using cinnamon (even though it's reporting >100 fps).
[04:15] <pantato> When I run fluxbox it runs fine
[04:16] <cfhowlett> pantato, solution:  cinnamon = NO, fluxbox = YES            =  problem solved
[04:16] <pantato> you guys must have had a giant influx of annoying questions in recent years. I apologize, I will do some more searching...
[04:18] <cfhowlett> pantato, thought you were after getting the game up and running.  if your focus is on why cinnamon chokes, you might want to run top, htop and/or check logs as a starting step
[04:18] <holstein> pantato: question.. is it the *same* base version? always 14.04? or, better yet, is it the same installation?
[04:19] <pantato> I'm sorry. I'm not following. I just downloaded/installed the latest Linux Mint with Cinnamon. It is 14.04 ubuntu. Same machine. Different window manager produces a different issue.
[04:20] <cfhowlett> pantato, sorry but you need to ask !mint for mint support.  not an ubuntu issue.
[04:20] <pantato> !mint
[04:20] <pantato> oooh
[04:20] <pantato> ok. I thought freenode had everything. Everything is all spread out now :P
[04:20] <holstein> pantato: yeah, you can try a live iso though.. stock ubuntu/xubntu/lubuntu/etc
[04:21] <pantato> thank you
[04:21] <holstein> could be something about the "mint" sources breaking something..
[04:21] <pantato> it's not mint, the issue is with cinnamon
[04:21] <holstein> pantato: sure, and that is supplied by the mint sources there..
[04:22] <holstein> pantato: i mean, im not blaming mint, for sure. just saying, thats something to try and isolate
[04:22] <SpeedyBozar> first i thought it was just crazy shit for fun... but when i carefully watch obama, he definitely is gay
[04:22] <cfhowlett> !ops | SpeedyBozar
[04:22] <SpeedyBozar> i dont know what it means
[04:29] <MrDragon04> I love CANDY!
[04:30] <cfhowlett> MrDragon04, nothing to do with this channel = #ubuntu support discussion
[04:30] <Sachiru> Wait, what?
[04:31] <Sachiru> So a one-liner that is not explicitly related to Ubuntu and is easy to ignore is now a warn-able offense?
[04:31] <Sachiru> So what if his love for candy is not related to Ubuntu, it's not as if he's spamming it.
[04:46] <linuxmint> Hello, can I download Ubuntu server onto a HDD and partition the HDD to maximise space. That is, just have the server on how ever many GB of space the OS needs, the allocate the rest to storage?
[04:47] <orlock> linuxmint: there is an advanced partitioning option in the installer that will let you do what you need
[04:47] <linuxmint> Just wondering what happens for space needed for the Ubuntu server OS for the occassional update which needs space, if space runs out.
[04:48] <orlock> linuxmint: You partition it to have the space you will need.. there may be guesswork.
[04:49] <holstein> seperate partitions doenst make the data any "safer", or less likely to get lost
[04:50] <cfhowlett> linuxmint, an "out of available space" may result in inability to log in ...
[04:50] <gentry1> linuxmint, you can always resize partitions later. i actually just did this when i ran out of space on my windows partition
[04:50] <cfhowlett> linuxmint, but regular cleaning and maintenance avoids such issues: sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoremove        come to mind.  also purging obsolete kernels ...
[04:51] <orlock> kernels and the /boot/ partition is always the biggie for me
[04:52] <symbiosis> I just updated from 14.04 LTS to 14.10 and X will not run normally any longer.  If I run it in failsafe graphics mode, things are OK.  My assumption is that there is some headache with the Nvidia drivers and the upgrade (things were fine in 14.04).  Thoughts?
[04:52] <gentry1> linuxmint, http://gparted.org/display-doc.php?name=moving-space-between-partitions
[04:52] <gentry1> great idea cfhowlett , orlock . never ran out of space on my linux so far, but will keep that in mind!
[04:52] <holstein> symbiosis: i would try removing and reinstalling.. and i might also look and make sure im running the kernel i expect to be running
[04:53] <cfhowlett> gentry1, I actually jammed myself by backing up my HDD when I hit 50%.  since 50 % + 50 % = 100 % ...
[04:54] <linuxmint> OK, thanks. Installer sounds good for now to partition. I'll have a look how much space Ubuntu server needs. Nothing else will be downloaded except NFS.
[04:55] <gentry1> cfhowlett, you back up to the same hd? I am confused
[04:55] <symbiosis> holstein: Thanks...I tried just re-installing and the nvidia-installer application complained that it could not find cc (/usr/bin/cc) though it is right there and works just fine.  I will try to find out how to uninstall these drivers.  I can't apt-get purge blah as the Nvidia binaries do not show up in the package list.
[04:55] <holstein> symbiosis: i would try the one in the repos that you wont need any of that for
[04:55] <cfhowlett> gentry1, I was preparing to install a /swap after initial install and needed to create a backup ... long story short = no go.  and still no swap today.
[04:56] <symbiosis> holstein: That is the odd thing, with the 750Ti, I see no additional drivers when I run the "Additional Drivers" tool.  It claims to see no proprietary drivers and claims to have no options for me.  Do I need to install a new PPA or something maybe?
[04:56] <gentry1> cfhowlett, :)
[04:57] <holstein> symbiosis: it may be, the driver dont support your hardware
[04:57] <holstein> symbiosis: for me, when i have hardware like that, that can be "problematic", that im not promised linux support for by the manufacuter, i *always* try a live iso before installing.. this means i cant/dont upgrade
[04:59] <symbiosis> holstein: Fair enough...I may have been naive thinking that an Nvidia 750Ti would not be that "exotic" ... such is life...the adventure continues.  Thanks.
[05:00] <holstein> symbiosis: good luck
[05:06] <ocsjwolf> Hello everybody
[05:11] <gshmu> I'm installed ubuntu 14.10, can't install openjdk 7 with software center?
[05:13] <gshmu> and can't install pidgin...  error:  openjdk-7-jdk: Depends: openjdk-7-jre (= 7u60-2.5.0-2ubuntu1) but 7u60-2.5.0-2ubuntu1 is to be installed
[05:14] <p0rkbelly> installed nvidia drivers two ways (through apt-get) and through a manual install. Each time, once I reboot there is no Unity in 14.10. Just a blank desktop. I'm finding articles from 3+ years ago on Google about kernel headers not set. But that is 3+ years ago....
[05:16] <gshmu> http://collabedit.com/xsqda
[05:26] <linuxmint> Hello, so Ubuntu 14.04 server is installing and is at Partition disks. I would like to partition so the Ubuntu server OS has a little space, and the rest can be used for backup storage. Which option do I select?
[05:27] <linuxmint> Guided - resize SCSI4 (0,0,0), partition #2 (sda0 and use freed space or?
[05:40] <gioans> #ubuntu
[05:41] <gioans> hello
[05:41] <gioans> asdasd
[05:52] <darkSpeaker> Hello
[05:52] <darkSpeaker> a;sdlfja;lsdjf;weiaf
[05:56] <Jim__> Hello. Botched perl install and now I cannot figure this out, any suggestions? http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=zgmwqWC3
[05:57] <gioans> hello
[05:58] <gioans> Jim_: hello
[05:58] <gioans> darkSpeaker: hello
[05:58] <Jim__> hi
[05:59] <gioans> what is your name ?
[05:59] <EuaD> anyone use ufw? i have a wan facing server running various services. is it better to use ufw default reject or ufw default deny?
[06:02] <c107> How does one give a WPA/WPA2 PSK wireless network password to iwconfig in Ubuntu?
[06:04] <EuaD> c107, man iwconfig says it would be sudo iwconfig wlan0 key passwordhere
[06:04] <EuaD> c107, obviously change your interface from wlan0 to whatever your wifi interface it
[06:04] <EuaD> *is
[06:05] <c107> Thanks, EuaD!
[06:08] <rypervenche> EuaD: It depends on what you want.
[06:08] <rypervenche> EuaD: If you are more worried about attacks, I'd go with default drop.
[06:09] <rypervenche> EuaD: If it is not Internet-facing, then I'd go with reject.
[06:09] <EuaD> rypervenche, i don't have drop. ufw has reject or deny
[06:10] <rypervenche> EuaD: deny is it
[06:12] <ear1> new join; going offline
[06:14] <EuaD> rypervenche, although there's also limit
[06:18] <rypervenche> EuaD: You mean for rate-limiting?
[06:21] <EuaD> rypervenche, i assume so, for those pesky ssh bruteforce
[06:23] <rypervenche> EuaD: Yeah, I rate-limit my SSH port, I thought you were still talking about the default rule.
[06:24] <cope-> just use a key instead of password
[06:24] <EuaD> cope-, i am
[06:24] <cope-> i've had denyhosts so large the ksoftirqd was at 100% on my linux firewall
[06:24] <cope-> it is an older firewall mind you
[06:25] <rypervenche> I only allow keys on all of my machines, so rate-limiting isn't really a problem, but I do still rate-limit the port.
[06:27] <EuaD> rypervenche, since my ssh is a non standard port i am not sure how to use ufw to rate limit since ufw limit ssh would only rate limit port 22
[06:27] <rypervenche> EuaD: You would just specify TCP traffic to your non-standard port. "ssh" just means port 22.
[06:28] <EuaD> rypervenche, that's my point, can I just ufw limit portnumber?
[06:28] <rypervenche> EuaD: It uses /etc/services to map the port to a name (ssh in this case).
[06:28] <rypervenche> Yes, you can. Let me look up the syntax.
[06:28] <EuaD> rypervenche, yeah, i'm reading the man now.
[06:32] <rypervenche> Good stuff. I'll let you take it from here then.
[06:33] <EuaD> rypervenche, well i still don't really understand. so i won't be using ufw limit ssh because i can't since i use a non-std port right?>
[06:33] <Darknet> So i was in here the other day asking for suggestions from people here for a control panel that manages your server in an easy way, kinda like cpanel. What is your preferences here?
[06:34] <Darknet> i am not geek enough to create subdomains, emails, mailboxes.
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[06:34] <FuuqUmiist> hey
[06:35] <lotuspsychje> Darknet: you still searching for cnpanel alternative?
[06:35] <lotuspsychje> cpanel
[06:35] <Darknet> yes
[06:36] <Darknet> i tried your link yesterday, and i would say most of the suggestions are not valid anymore. the only viable option on that page was webmin
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> Darknet: maybe the #cpanel guys might know something else
[06:36] <Darknet> lol i will not go ask there
[06:36] <Darknet> its like asking a ford dealership stuff about chevrolets...
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> !webmin | Darknet
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> back from start then :p
[06:37] <Darknet> ok, so you gave me another reason not  to use it
[06:38] <lotuspsychje> Darknet: how about the #ubuntu-server guys, they might know something more easy to use?
[06:38] <rypervenche> EuaD: It's very easy to do. It's just "ufw limit 22/tcp"
[06:38] <lotuspsychje> Darknet: is it to use on derver or desktop?
[06:38] <rypervenche> EuaD: Change 22 to your port.
[06:38] <Darknet> on server
[06:38] <lotuspsychje> kk
[06:38] <lotuspsychje> talk to them maybe
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> Darknet: and re-ask your question here once in a while
[06:39] <rypervenche> EuaD: But I would do it a bit differently. You only want to limit inbount and only new connections.
[06:40] <EuaD> test
[06:40] <Darknet> ok
[06:41] <EuaD> rypervenche, oh. does ufw limit 7926/tcp limit incoming and outgoing?
[06:41] <rypervenche> EuaD: Looking over the man page I think it should be fine actually.
[06:41] <EuaD> actually, i think i'm good with this. i've spent way too much time on it
[06:42] <EuaD> :)  thanks
[06:42] <rypervenche> EuaD: The real way to check would simlpy be to check the iptables rules that it creates.
[06:44] <EuaD> rypervenche, i get that but it's way over my head. here's the output of iptables --list https://clbin.com/cnmtH
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> Darknet: a 2014 thread here: http://www.gnutomorrow.com/best-free-web-hosting-panel-cpanel-alternative/
[06:44] <Darknet> o
[06:44] <Darknet> i will look it up
[06:44] <Darknet> ty
[06:45] <Saleem> E: Unable to locate package packagename.deb in ubunt 12.04
[06:45] <Saleem> i got this message tell me please
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> Saleem: wich package?
[06:46] <Saleem> google chrome for ubuntu 12.04
[06:46] <Saleem> i have all package in ftp link i want to it run from terminal
[06:47] <lotuspsychje> Saleem: you can download chrome from their website
[06:47] <EuaD> lotuspsychje, are you aware of any open source cpanels for arch by any chance
[06:47] <Saleem> i did it but its showing E: Unable to locate package google-chrome
[06:47] <lotuspsychje> EuaD: that link is for linux, so i presume it works on arch too
[06:48] <EuaD> is webmin safe to use or is that not really a cpanel equivalent
[06:48] <lotuspsychje> EuaD: join the arch channel if you want to know more
[06:48] <lotuspsychje> EuaD: webmin for ubuntu isnt reccomended
[06:48] <EuaD> lotuspsychje, well, the VestaCP doesn't list arch but it is just a bash script so i suppose i coiuld downlooad it and view it
[06:48] <Saleem> i have all package in ftp link i want it to run software from ftp  i made
[06:49] <lotuspsychje> Saleem: download chrome from the official website, or enable sources to download chrome
[06:49] <lotuspsychje> Saleem: or choose chromium from software centre
[06:50] <Saleem> as i have download deb format but i want to install using my own repository from ftp link offline
[06:50] <lotuspsychje> Saleem: how can we support you on a non-official ftp of yours?
[06:52] <Saleem> just give me a solution of E: Unable to locate package (anypackagename)
[06:52] <Saleem> i am stuck in that
[06:52] <lotuspsychje> Saleem: the problem says it all for itself...it cant locate your package
[06:53] <Saleem> where do i get it from
[06:53] <lotuspsychje> Saleem: you need to get your package with apt-get or chrome website
[06:54] <Saleem> i have the package in my repository done but it cannot locate from my own repository list
[06:55] <lotuspsychje> !repo | Saleem
[06:55] <EuaD> Saleem, did you add your custom repo to your apt sources list?
[06:55] <Saleem> how we do it my that might be mistake\
[06:56] <Saleem> like i have all package in zip format i want it to unzip and install when installing using terminal
[06:56] <EuaD> Saleem, this may help maybe http://hyperlogos.org/page/custom-Ubuntu-repository-using-apt-move
[06:56] <Saleem> u got my poiny
[06:57] <Saleem> do i have to unzip package
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> this is not a reccomended way of installing packages...
[06:58] <K`zan> Anyone else loose flash on the new FF update?
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> !info firefox
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> kµ
[06:59] <K`zan> Doesn't mention flash :-(.
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> version 34?
[06:59] <Saleem> is there guide for ubuntu 12.04
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> !manual | Saleem
[06:59] <K`zan> Yes Version 34.
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> K
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[07:00] <Saleem> do we have to unzip package to install package  or no
[07:00] <K`zan> lotuspychje:  Thanks!
[07:00] <K`zan> I think so.
[07:02] <Saleem> after unzip how to make package readable in terminal
[07:02] <lotuspsychje> K`zan: can you check with sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[07:03] <bubbasaures> Saleem, If you download the deb it will install with the software center
[07:03] <K`zan> lotuspsychje:  Wilco
[07:03] <Saleem> i dont want it to download  from internet i want to download using terminal offline
[07:04] <bubbasaures> ah, that I don't know, sorry
[07:05] <Saleem> does anyone know this solution i input
[07:06] <K`zan> lotuspsychje: Running now.
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> K`zan: was it installed?
[07:07] <K`zan> lotuspsychje: Installing tons of fonts at this point.  Also downloading flashplugin ATM.
[07:07] <lotuspsychje> K`zan:good, lets hope it fixes
[07:07] <K`zan> lotuspsychje: :-) Me too, thanks for the help, MUCH appreciated!
[07:07] <lotuspsychje> K`zan: no prob :p
[07:08] <K`zan> lotuspsychje:  Taking time to get it, we'll see, report to follow.
[07:08] <Saleem> i have all deb package in repository in ftp link i want to install software using terminal offline
[07:10] <rypervenche> Saleem: lotuspsychje already gave you the necessary information for setting up a repo correctly.
[07:10] <Saleem> its not working in ubuntu12.04
[07:10] <Saleem> its for different version
[07:11] <Saleem> i checked it but its support my os
[07:28] <bullgard4> What is a "rendition of Ubuntu"? http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud/tools/snappy: "… Ubuntu is famous for being a welcoming, productive community where people get to pursue the things they are interested in and share the fruits of that with millions of users. We would welcome your ideas and code for this new rendition of Ubuntu!" <- Is this a modified Ubuntu distribution?
[07:30] <somsip> bullgard4: synonyms:performance, rendering, interpretation, presentation, execution, delivery
[07:30] <lotuspsychje> !snappy | bullgard4
[07:31] <FuuqUmiist> is it true that the word linux is seldom, if ever, used on the Ubuntu website?
[07:31] <bullgard4> I take it that you throwing me out here.
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> bullgard4: dont make conclusions
[07:32] <somsip> FuuqUmiist: your answer is here http://www.ubuntu.com
[07:37] <K`zan> lotuspsychje: Worked, thank you very, VERY much Sir!  Greatly appreciated!
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> !yay | K`zan
[07:38] <K`zan> :-), doing happy dance to flash video :).
[07:41] <gifeelko> dfg
[07:41] <gifeelko> hi
[07:44] <Saleem> how to unzip package from ftp automatically and install
[07:45] <Saleem> its for ubuntu 12.04
[07:45] <somsip> Saleem: it's unual to install from an ftp package. What are you trying to achieve?
[07:46] <somsip> *unusual
[07:46] <bazhang> whats the package Saleem
[07:46] <Saleem> i have all package that is zipped format in ftp link i want to install software using my own software repository i created
[07:46] <Saleem> i have many but i am doing goog chrome
[07:47] <bazhang> Saleem, get their repo
[07:47] <Saleem> yes
[07:47] <bazhang> it's *not* a zip
[07:47] <Saleem> its in deb format
[07:48] <Saleem> i want it to extract and run from terminal when type their require package
[07:48] <lotuspsychje> bazhang: i explained him already adding his own ftp is not a recommended way of installing
[07:49] <bazhang> Saleem, you do not extract from a deb
[07:50] <Saleem> is there script to run package  in terminal  offline that is stored on ftp link
[07:50] <bazhang> Saleem, thats not the supported method of software installation for ubuntu
[07:51] <bazhang> Saleem, if you wish to write a script of some sort, you could ask in #bash
[07:51] <Saleem> we cant install offline  without connection
[07:52] <lotuspsychje> Saleem: you need to be online, to get a package
[07:52] <lotuspsychje> Saleem: or at least get the .deb from your internal ftp
[08:05] <vbgunz> I use Yakuake, anyone here use Yakuake? I'd like to completely zero out all shortcuts to it because I'd like to use and learn Byobu from within it. unfortunately many of Byobu's shortcuts are intercepted by Yakuake which makes learning it difficult. I'm not finding how to backup my current shortcuts in Yakuake, anyone know?
[08:05] <vbgunz> I'm hoping it's in a file, a simple move will hopefully zero out the shortcuts and I can be safe
[08:05] <vbgunz> I'm just not finding the "file"
[08:06] <lotuspsychje> !info yakuake
[08:06] <lotuspsychje> vbgunz: did you check /home with hidden folders for configs maybe?
[08:06] <somsip> vbgunz: sideways solution - try tmux instead of byobu
[08:07] <vbgunz> I did a locate yakuake | grep /home and I'm not finding any shortcut files related to yakuake
[08:08] <vbgunz> somsip: I'd like to stick with Byobu :)
[08:08] <calrik> hi all, just install ubuntu 14.10 mate I been doing the usual tweaks I have core 2 duo quad (Q8600), 8 gb ram, ATI 6870 but for some reason the os feels sluggish anything I can check to help troubleshoot why this is so?
[08:08] <somsip> vbgunz: fair enough. You said you wanted to learn byobu so I guessed you might be up for swapping. Wrong guess :)
[08:09] <vbgunz> it's cool, my understanding is it supports both tmux and screen but honestly, I don't know
[08:09] <lotuspsychje> calrik: did you check additional drivers, if other grafix drivers show up?
[08:09] <vbgunz> a server I log into starts byobu by default and I like it so far
[08:10] <calrik> lotuspsy: yes im using the fglrx-update driver and seems to work fine, I can run games ok
[08:10] <calrik> its just the everyday use navigating through
[08:10] <lotuspsychje> vbgunz: there is a small #byobu channel if you like :p
[08:10] <lotuspsychje> calrik: did you try on 14.04?
[08:10] <calrik> fyi i am also not using any composite windows like compiz or anything like that
[08:11] <vbgunz> lotuspsychje: thanks, I didn't know this, I'm currently looking for the yakuake "file" that has the shortcuts in it... I'm thinking, it's linux, everythings a file
[08:11] <calrik> no I didnt want to really downgrade so to speak, I did have issues getting wine to work with my ati graphics card initially
[08:12] <calrik> I really wanted to use the ubuntu mate 14.10 as Im liking the direction this is heading
[08:12] <calrik> and thinking mate wouldnt be as resource hungry as unity
[08:13] <calrik> fyi I have changed the swapiness to 10 as recommended on some sites to improve ui performamce
[08:13] <lotuspsychje> vbgunz: maybe in /usr/share/applications/
[08:13] <lotuspsychje> calrik: maybe talk to the #mate guys
[08:14] <calrik> ok thanks
[08:14] <lotuspsychje> calrik: i would suggest 14.04 and work from there
[08:14] <lotuspsychje> !info preload | calrik this can help alot too
[08:14] <vbgunz> lotuspsychje: I'm thinking you're right... I'm thinking I may have found the file already but the shortcuts are being "cascaded" from another file...
[08:14] <vbgunz> gonna try an experiment
[08:14] <lotuspsychje> vbgunz: good luck :p
[08:14] <calrik> I got preload installed also
[08:15] <lotuspsychje> cool
[08:15] <calrik> alot of work already gone into setting up 14.10 going back to 14.04 would be a last resort :(
[08:15] <lotuspsychje> calrik: maybe the #mate guys know any other performance tweaks
[08:15] <vbgunz> lotuspsychje: yup, I think I got this :)
[08:15] <lotuspsychje> calrik: you know 14.10 is only for 9 months right
[08:17] <calrik> yes
[08:17] <lotuspsychje> calrik: you run an ssd or classical HD?
[08:17] <calrik> classical sata 2
[08:17] <lotuspsychje> ok
[08:18] <calrik> need to invest in an ssd just broke atm :(
[08:18] <lotuspsychje> calrik: never used mate myself, so i dont know howto wteak its performance
[08:18] <calrik> all good :)
[08:18] <calrik> its basically gnome 2
[08:18] <lotuspsychje> !info bleachbit | calrik cleanup always work nice
[08:28] <calrik> hmm firefox seems to feel the slowest, but just thought it wierd since my memory and cpu usage only at 20%, I am thinking my hard drive is the culprit, I dont think its a gui or software issue
[08:31] <calrik> running bleachbit as su and its securing wiping free disk space Im getting 1-2 second freezes, so suspecting its my hdd playing up :(
[08:32] <calrik> what is some good tools to test disk bottlenecks/ io latency etc?
[08:33] <fidel_> calrik: there is iotop - not sure if that is what you are looking for
[08:34] <calrik> it might be the droid I am looking for :P
[08:38] <hariom> How to ensure that rsync just send the entire file every time and not the part of the file if remaining part already exist. I want to copy the file every time as I am sure every file is unique
[08:41] <gshmu> Ubuntu 14.10 SoftWare Center Can't install pidgin and openJDK-7
[08:45] <hariom> How to transfer single small files (size < 100kb) to remote server in fastest possible way?. Every file is unique. Can not send files in bulk but single files may be in parallel
[08:49] <somsip> hariom: rsync
[08:51] <somsip> hariom: with parallel for concurrency
[08:56] <grek> hi i try reinstall grup - here is from terminal http://pastebin.com/wwjFteGv
[08:56] <grek> here is auto boot repair - both fail http://pastebin.com/X8HC2JNJ
[08:56] <grek> please help
[08:56] <grek> grub
[08:57] <grek> this is x64
[08:57] <grek> i dont know why it try Installing for i386-pc platform.
[08:57] <grek> grub-install: error: failed to get canonical path of `/cow'.
[08:57] <grek>  
[09:01] <gshmu> http://collabedit.com/xsqda
[09:01] <novagromada> 1
[09:02] <maum> I ran apache on the server but the web page is blank.
[09:07] <kreydan> Someone can recommend DWG viewer for Ubuntu?
[09:13] <SynthAxe> Hey guys
[09:13] <SynthAxe> Can you suggest any goo d email client i can use on lubuntu that can auto detect my company's exchange account?
[09:15] <SynthAxe> Anyone?
[09:18] <cynicallemon> SynthAxe: evolution and/or thunderbird
[09:19] <gshmu> hate 14.10 Software Center
[09:19] <cynicallemon> SynthAxe: or a web browser
[09:22] <SynthAxe> Hmm i got dropped for some reason
[09:22] <SynthAxe> Anyway
[09:22] <SynthAxe> I tried thunderbird but it doesnt seem to auto detect the server settings
[09:29] <grek> anyone ? http://pastebin.com/X8HC2JNJ
[09:30] <japro> so i'm trying to create a encrypted install of 14.04 on a usb drive from a machine that already has ubuntu installed... the installer won't let me do the encrypted install though since it complains about there being a unencrypted swap partition on the (unrelated) hdd of the laptop
[09:30] <japro> booting into trial mode and  using swapoff --all didn't let me proceede either
[09:31] <ang> #Japro , why don't you try Truecrypt instead
[09:33] <pseudonymous> Can I easily redirect all the output normally visible through dmesg to the same console as my initial boot messages ?
[09:34] <ang> Can anybody tell me about slim installation in Emacs
[09:34] <ang> for CommonLisp
[09:34] <pseudonymous> ang: very much a conversation for the emacs channel
[09:35] <ang> pseudonymous: thanks
[09:44] <japro> ok, now i'm confused, if the "An unsafe swap space has been detected"-thing is a general bug or connected to my attempt to install from a machine that already has a swap set up
[09:44] <japro> is there a way to have the installer entirely ignore a device?
[09:46] <n3vtelen> when ubuntu 14.04.3 release?
[09:46] <purvesh> Hi, can some one help me to upgrade from 13.04 to 13.10 through iso
[09:47] <somsip> !13.10
[09:47] <somsip> purvesh: 13.10 is no longer supported
[09:48] <_blk> n3vtelen, 14.04.2 first.. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule
[09:48] <purvesh> somsip, I want to upgrade to 14.04 but for that first i need to upgrade to 13.10 & I want to use old method via mounting iso
[09:48] <Harminuriel> Hello! Is anyone following the developement of Ubuntu Touch OS?
[09:48] <n3vtelen> is ubuntu 12.04.5 stable or ubuntu 14.04.1 does?
[09:49] <fidel_> Harminuriel: i think there is #ubuntu-touch
[09:49] <somsip> !touch | Harminuriel
[09:49] <Harminuriel> Oh! Thanks! :)
[09:50] <n3vtelen> i meaning security and vulnerability
[09:50] <casa12> list
[09:51] <purvesh> somsip, so do you know how to upgrade offline apart from live cd or usb stick option ?
[09:51] <somsip> !list | casa12
[09:51] <somsip> !offline | purvesh
[09:51] <n3vtelen> ubuntu 12.04.5 or 14.04.1?
[09:51] <fidel_> n3vtelen: for 14.04 - it is 14.04.1
[09:51] <somsip> purvesh: no idea other than what's on the hint above
[09:51] <purvesh> somsip, I have all iso of ubuntu
[09:52] <purvesh> somsip, ok Thanks for reply!
[09:52] <_blk> n3vtelen, you should go with 14.04 if you're not sure
[09:54] <uncaose> python
[09:55] <linocisco> USB connection to android phone Galaxy Note2 sucks
[09:55] <jacobtapp> Is there a way to have an encrypted drive unlock and mount on startup if it shares the phrase of the system drive?
[09:55] <cfhowlett> linocisco, airdroid ...
[09:56] <linocisco> USB connection to android phone Galaxy Note2 sucks. both SD card and phone are not detected well as drives
[09:56] <cfhowlett> linocisco, AIRDROID
[09:56] <linocisco> cfhowlett, airdroid using samba or wifi tethering like zapya? s
[09:57] <cfhowlett> linocisco, android app = wifi connection
[09:59] <pseudonymous> jacobtapp: good question, do share if you find it outside this IRC channel
[10:02] <linocisco> cfhowlett, i have no wifi router at home, I just have ubuntu desktop and galaxy Note2 . I want all photos from my phones to copy to ubuntu. With bluetooth, it is one directional. Ubuntu to phone only
[10:03] <three_wave> Hello  everyont
[10:19] <alteregoa> whats comming after sdz?
[10:23] <CatKiller> alteregoa: sdaa
[10:23] <CatKiller> sdab, sdac.......sdaaa, sdaab, sdaac...
[10:25] <rrr> how do i check the system is 32 bit or 64 bit?
[10:25] <EriC^^> rrr: uname -m
[10:25] <rrr> i686
[10:26] <k1l> that is 32bit
[10:31] <SJr> I have some java windows that appear way off screen, how can I move them back to the main screen with Unity Ubuntu 14.04
[10:37] <_blk> SJr, [ALT]+click/drag them back might work.
[10:37] <ObrienDave> SJr, there is a setting to make windows appear in the center of your screen. i don't remember where the setting is
[10:38] <SJr> Thanks
[10:38] <philip_> for a server which raiding system is the best
[10:38] <ObrienDave> how many drives?
[10:40] <philip_> three drives
[10:41] <philip_> each 300gb
[10:41] <ikonia> philip_: it's not a black and white "which is best"
[10:41] <ikonia> philip_: it's all about your needs and hardware
[10:41] <philip_> and is it possible to backup both OS and file on a drve
[10:42] <ikonia> you can back up anything you want
[10:45] <philip_> because i am having a little problem.
[10:45] <ikonia> philip_: just explain the problem
[10:46] <_blk> philip_, your questions are indeed a bit fuzzy. For the raid comparison wikipedia might help you decide what you actually want, for the backup, you can get perfect images using dd, but that will require the full (1:1) space of what you're backing up.
[10:48] <philip_> i have a hp gen8 server running on ubuntu server and a raid was not configured on it the first harddrive is almost getting full and adding another hard disk is an issue
[10:49] <ikonia> philip_: if you are using a raid controller on a HP DL server you will need to reinstall
[10:49] <ikonia> the raid configuration needs to be in place before the OS is installed
[10:50] <philip_> i wasnt there when the installation was done. and afraid of losing data and software running on it
[10:50] <ikonia> then backup the data you want to another machine - configure the raid device and re-install
[10:51] <philip_> how will i backup the data to another machine.
[10:51] <ikonia> however you feel best, copy it off, scp, rsync, tar files, or use backup software, but then you will need a client/server model
[10:53] <philip_> @ikonia thank you. But pls wat command can i use to check if my current system is running on raid
[10:54] <ikonia> philip_: it depends, you'd probably be best checking the HP system status to check the hardware raid status
[10:54] <ikonia> you can normally interface with the ILO to do this
[10:59] <cart_man> Hey...Ive downloaded the kernel source files and headers for kernel module development but I cant seem to find the basic " #include <sys/mman.h> " ? I cant find it in usr/src/linux-headers-3.13.0-40 either
[10:59] <ikonia> cart_man: what do you mean you can't find it ?
[11:00] <basichash> how can i setup hipporemote for 14.04?
[11:01] <_blk> cart_man: if you're trying to compile something outside the kernel that needs this file then the headers are enough. To find the file use `locate sys/mman.h` (maybe after a `sudo updatedb`)
[11:02] <basichash> how can i setup hipporemote for 14.04?
[11:02] <sadwolf> hi there!
[11:03] <cart_man> ikanobori, I really cant litterally not find the file SYS file.
[11:03] <basichash> how can i setup hipporemote for 14.04?
[11:03] <k1l> basichash: you did look into their website for th ubuntu instructions?
[11:04] <cart_man> _blk, Yes youre right but I have to use mman.h for mmap(). Ive found it using your isntructions in /usr/local/i386-linux-gnu/sys/mman.h but trying to make the MAKE file use that header will be a pain
[11:05] <cart_man> why dont they just include mman.h in the kernel headers?
[11:05] <ikonia> cart_man: there should be nothing in /usr/local
[11:05] <basichash> yeah, although i need to open up remote desk pref, but my kboard is broken sp i cant search for it in apps
[11:05] <basichash> k1l: ^
[11:08] <basichash> ne1?
[11:08] <k1l> basichash: enable the onscreen keyboard in system settings
[11:09] <basichash> k1l: i hav, but i cant search apps, it closes when i try
[11:09] <basichash> k1l: using eleos gui
[11:10] <basichash> not unity
[11:10] <k1l>  basichash well, ask the elementary guys how to solve their bug then
[11:10] <basichash> k1l: is there another way 2 open it?
[11:10] <basichash> eg term
[11:12] <ph007> what is the best laptop for linux
[11:13] <cfhowlett> ph007, no such thing.
[11:13] <cfhowlett> ph007, completely dependent on your needs, habits, and preferences
[11:14] <_blk> cart_man, you must have installed that there. As ikonia says, debian packages don't typically install anything there. Mine is in /usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/sys/mman.h (64bit, you seem to run 32) and is installed by libc6-dev NOT THE KERNEL. (`apt-file search sys/mman.h`)
[11:16] <_blk> ph007, any hardware that works well... thinkpads tend to run rather well, or pretty much anything else that's widely used.
[11:17] <cart_man> _blk, Ok ill seach for that... but usually if kernel headers are installed then everything is usually there... I cant imagen them excluding mmap() from kernel space? Does anybody by the way know anything about PCI drivers and how I can use something other then MMAP to reserve a space of Memory?
[11:20] <basichash> how i setup  vnc?
[11:21] <philip_> i check for raid on my current system.i got this Personalities :
[11:21] <philip_> unused devices: <none>
[11:25] <basichash> how i setup  vnc?
[11:25] <cfhowlett> basichash, dude.  don't be lazy.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC
[11:26] <ObrienDave> what? we have to read manuals? say it isn't so ;P
[11:26] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave, I know, right?
[11:27] <basichash> cfhowlett: my kboard is broken have 2 use screen kbord 4 all very slow
[11:27] <_blk> basichash, good thing you don't need the keyboard to read. Can't find the right permutation, MTRF or something
[11:29] <cfhowlett> basichash, it's a wiki.  print it.  read it.
[11:31] <ph007> what is the best laptop for linux
[11:31] <EriC^^> !certified
[11:32] <EriC^^> !certificates
[11:32] <cfhowlett> ph007, google = laptop + linux + make up your own mind
[11:32] <frenzys> ciao
[11:32] <parmiggiano> ph007: as stated before, choose a laptop you like... just make sure the hardware is supported. and perhaps you prefer a laptop without windows or mac os preinstalled.
[11:32] <frenzys> list!
[11:33] <ph007> !certificates
[11:33] <frenzys> list
[11:33] <ph007> acer?
[11:33] <k1l> ph007: no
[11:34] <cfhowlett> ph007, there is no research that says acer ... or any other brand ... is BEST.  Ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:34] <linuxmint> Hello, I'm installing NFS on Ubuntu as per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo. I typed command # mount --bind /home/users /export/users, but received error: mount: special device /home/users does not exist. Will the install still work if I continue on?
[11:35] <basichash> how can i open remote ddeesktop from term?
[11:35] <cfhowlett> basichash, read the wiki.  carefully.  it's there.
[11:35] <Gigga> snappy fedoracore?
[11:36] <linuxmint> basichash: ssh
[11:37] <_blk> linuxmint, probably, but if the directory is empty because it can't be mounted it wont be useful (and you might not have permission to write there without the bind mount)
[11:37] <ph007> i want cheap reliable laptop.. that support linux .. bcoz im  student :)
[11:37] <cfhowlett> ph007, ask #ubuntu-offtopic or ##linux.  NOT HERE.
[11:37] <_blk> linuxmint, does your /home/users even exist?
[11:37] <k1l> ph007: see for old thinkpads
[11:38] <Gigga> chromebook
[11:40] <Gigga> this channel is full of emies
[11:40] <linuxmint> _blk: I don't think /home/users exists. I'm following the walkthrough from a fresh Ubuntu server install. I find directory /home/ubuntu, but not /home/users. I would mkdir, but the instruction didn't say to, but did say to mkdir -p /export/users.
[11:41] <ikonia> Gigga: ?
[11:41] <Gigga> ikonia:  ?
[11:42] <_blk> linuxmint, it's generally pretty bad to blindly follow instructions that involve sudo commands without understanding them..
[11:42] <Gigga> you my fiend?
[11:42] <cfhowlett> Gigga, ask your #ubuntu support question
[11:42] <linuxmint> _blk: I'm sudo, so I must have permission? A note says it's important that /export and /export/users have 777 permissions, but I haven't read a step yet to adjust permissions.
[11:42] <ikonia> Gigga: do you need ubuntu help ?
[11:43] <Gigga> no butt can i help you?
[11:43] <ikonia> no thank you
[11:43] <linuxmint> _blk: I think I understand the commands. Just # apt-get, # mkdir and # mount so far.
[11:43] <_blk> linuxmint, ask yourself what you want on the NSF drive.. one user directory? all user directories? then read up on mount --bind (`man mount`), for permissions checkout `man chmod`
[11:44] <basichash> right so 8using vino, how do i find comp name ip to connnect 2?
[11:44] <ikonia> basichash: try not to use text speak, it makes it easier to work with you
[11:44] <linuxmint> _blk: thanks. I just need NSF to allow easy transfer of data and backups on a few HDDs for me.
[11:44] <_blk> linuxmint, and please DO NOT read your emails really fast as root with `rm -rf /`
[11:44] <basichash> scrn kyboard
[11:44] <linuxmint> _blk: nothing enterprise level.
[11:44] <linuxmint> _blk: ?
[11:45] <ikonia> _blk: please don't make that sort of comment
[11:45] <ikonia> _blk: no-one said anything about rm -rf so please don't be silly with that command
[11:45] <_blk> don't say I didn't warn ;)
[11:45] <cfhowlett> !behelpful | _blk,
[11:45] <ikonia> basichash: you need to know the hostname/fully qualified domain name/or ip address of the machine you want to connect to
[11:45] <Gigga> you can read email with ./
[11:45] <linuxmint> _blk: oh ok, I know that command.
[11:45] <ikonia> Gigga: no you can't
[11:47] <Gigga> in the near future you cant login to any computer with out email account
[11:47] <basichash> ikonia: how can i find it? ifconfig?
[11:48] <ikonia> basichash: that's your IP address info
[11:48] <ikonia> not the target machines
[11:48] <ikonia> Gigga: this channel is for ubuntu help - not random thoughts about the future
[11:49] <ikonia> Gigga: please try to focus on helping people with their actual questions
[11:49] <_blk> linuxmint, just your user, then bind-mount your home drive (or maybe even a subfolder of that) to /export/foobar
[11:49] <Gigga> you mean their fake time wasting questions
[11:50] <cfhowlett> +1
[11:50] <EriC^^> that was quick
[11:50] <Gigga> EriC^^: do you have a ubuntu support question?
[11:52] <EriC^^> Gigga: yes, do you think you can help?
[11:52] <basichash> ikonia: ?
[11:52] <ikonia> basichash: what ?
[11:53] <Gigga> just ask your question if im unable to answer some one eventually will answer it
[11:53] <rzeka> Hello. Is it possible to allow one user write into directory regardless of chmod/chown? I'd like to allow "git" user to write into /home/{user} folders while chmod there is 750
[11:53] <basichash> right so 8using vino, how do i find comp name ip to connnect 2?
[11:53] <ikonia> rzeka: if they have the right group membership they can but not if you lock them out like that
[11:54] <ikonia> basichash: PLEASE stop using text speak
[11:54] <EriC^^> rzeka: set it to 755, or add him as a acl
[11:54] <linuxmint> _blk: thank you, that worked and cleared up the issue too.
[11:54] <rzeka> EriC^^: that acl thing :) I was thinking about sudo - allow only one command without a password. I hope it's possible
[11:55] <ikonia> basichash: you have to know the name/ip/fully qualified name of the host you want to connect to
[11:55] <ikonia> rzeka: very possible
[11:55] <basichash> how do i find the computer name and address to connect to
[11:55] <EriC^^> rzeka: what for? just add him as a acl
[11:55] <linuxmint> _blk: yes, the walkthrough says to bind to /export/users, so users will be your subfolder /foobar suggestion.
[11:55] <ikonia> basichash: you have to know it
[11:55] <basichash> how?
[11:56] <ikonia> basichash: ask the person who owns the machine you want to connect to for their info
[11:56] <MrSavage> I just installed the new AMD omega drivers for 14.04 and my 2d environment is lagging
[11:56] <basichash> its my laptop
[11:56] <hojgaard> Hello folks.. At our company we have a load balancer (nginx) that works flawlessly untill it hits 200Mb throughput. Then it starts to get slow and the latency is bad. Can anyone give a hint on how we troubleshoot. None of us are real networking experts.
[11:56] <ikonia> basichash: then you know your own hostname/ip address
[11:56] <EriC^^> rzeka: setfacl -m u:<user>:rwx /path/to/dir
[11:57] <MrSavage> nevermind
[11:57] <MrSavage> apparently wine got rid of my drivers...
[11:57] <rzeka> Thanks EriC^^ :) I'm reading manual right now too
[11:57] <ikonia> hojgaard: look where the latency is, on the card/ip stack or on the hosts services
[11:57] <ikonia> hojgaard: find out where the bottleneck is
[11:58] <basichash> ikonia: i dont know
[11:58] <hojgaard> ikonia, yes, but how is the best way to do that?
[11:58] <ikonia> hojgaard: investigate, look at what resources are in use, work backwards
[12:02] <linuxmint> test
[12:02] <linuxmint> I don't think the command # /home/ubuntu /export/users none bind 0 0 is working? Output is bash: /home/ubuntu: Is a directory
[12:02] <ikonia> thats not a command
[12:02] <ikonia> thats a directory and looks like an attempt to mount
[12:03] <ikonia> in which case mount is the command with those agruments
[12:03] <EriC^^> linuxmint: looks more like a fstab entry
[12:03] <linuxmint> ikonia: sorry, you made me realise that's a line to ad to fstab.
[12:03] <linuxmint> *add
[12:06] <linuxmint> ok, so I'm adding some code to /etc/idmapd.conf, but there's no code in /etc/idmapd.conf. Makes me a bit nervous, but might keep continuing.
[12:06] <basichash> ikonia: hmm connection fails
[12:07] <vbgunz> linuxmint: not sure what you're even talking about but have no fear editing empty files. find out how to comment the file you're working on and the first line in it should be # This file was blank or non-existent.
[12:07] <vbgunz> that comment helps you out later
[12:07] <vbgunz> could be years later
[12:08] <linuxmint> vbgunz: oh, that's interesting. I might try that, adding the comment to the top line that the file was empty.
[12:09] <vbgunz> linuxmint: whenever I edit system files I backup the original with a .origin extension. this way finding edited system files is as easy as "locate .origin" .. then, when I find all the system files I've edited, they either have edits or start off with this file didn't even exist, etc
[12:10] <vbgunz> it just makes backtracking over system edits very easy. stupid easy
[12:11] <parmiggiano> vbgunz: thx.  i'll try that in my next install.
[12:11] <linuxmint> vbgunz: nice, sounds like a plan :-)
[12:12] <vbgunz> you're welcome fellas, if I've learned anything, it's track what you do to the system. everything's a file so as they say ;)
[12:13] <basichash> can someone help me connect to my laptop via vnc?
[12:14] <dosmanak> bacichash: what is your problem?
[12:16] <aclnet4> acl
[12:16] <aclnet4> abl
[12:16] <basichash> dosmanak: tring to connect my iphone to laptop. it needs the name and ip of my laptop
[12:19] <dosmanak> basichash, Do you have some basic knowledge about networks? Anyway a think the name may be anything. But you must be connected in the same network as laptop to make it work. Then you need to know your IP address, you should be able to find it in your network setting
[12:20] <basichash> right i have my wlan ip, but not networked assigned name
[12:23] <basichash> it returns 60.31.126.10.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer kg-10-126-31-60.eduroam-kg.privat.
[12:23] <linuxmint> vbgunz: so, I just created a file /etc/exports. The walkthrough said to add some files to the /etc/export file, but there was no /etc/export file. So would you put a comment in and/or call the file /etc/exports or /etc/exports.origin?
[12:23] <basichash> dosmanak: ^
[12:23] <Myt> hello
[12:23] <Myt> Who can create me here a yahoo account ?
[12:24] <Myt> because I do not have the cell phone
[12:24] <basichash> dosmanak: when i 'host' my nw ip
[12:24] <dosmanak> basichash, So do you want to connect from outside of your home network?
[12:24] <Ben64> Myt: this channel is ubuntu support only
[12:24] <vbgunz> the .origin extension helps me find the file later... create the explicit file the walkthrough is going over... in 2 months good luck remembering the name of that file. but in 2 months when you run the command "locate .origin" you'll get a list of files back. that will certainly refresh your memory
[12:25] <dosmanak> basichash, You should try it in yout home environment first i.e. your home wireless network.
[12:25] <vbgunz> the .origin thing is a trick I use to go back in time and refresh my memory with the edits I make
[12:26] <basichash> dosmanak: unfortunately cant
[12:26] <vbgunz> linuxmint: it works like this, create a file called whatever.origin ... then run this "sudo updatedb" ... then find that file later with "locate .origin"
[12:26] <linuxmint> vbgunz: so, I created /etc/exports and add some code. As per your system, should I create /etc/exports and /etc/exports.origin?
[12:26] <vbgunz> linuxmint: it's up to you to call the extension whatever you want that will help you find it later... think of it as a "tag"
[12:27] <linuxmint> vbgunz: because I cannot call the file /etc/exports.origin. The walkthrough says the file should be named /etc/exports.
[12:27] <vbgunz> linuxmint: call it exactly what the walkthrough is saying to name it
[12:27] <dosmanak> basichash, the IP you pasted here looks like some academical network, I am not sure you can put VNC through. Are you able to e.g ping your laptop? Or access ssh?
[12:27] <linuxmint> vbgunz: yes, it's like a "tag". I think I'll add a 2nd file /etc/exports.origin, so it can be found.
[12:28] <vbgunz> if it says /etc/exports, name it exactly that... I'm talking about a trick I use to "remember" the system files I edit
[12:28] <Ben64> linuxmint: are you on linux mint by chance
[12:29] <linuxmint> vbgunz: yes, I like your system, but just had the problem of no /etc/exports file existing when the walkthrough says add code to the file /etc/exports. I thought I'd try to tag the new file somehow.
[12:29] <vbgunz> usually when a file already exists I cp it /original /original.origin ... you can call it whatever you want. one thing I swear I learned early with linux is, you better make backups of system files you edit. you're a horrible person that deserves the worse if you don't :(
[12:29] <linuxmint> Ben64: Is the pope Catholic?
[12:29] <Ben64> linuxmint: ok, then stop using this channel for support. go to #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[12:30] <linuxmint> Ben64: harsh...well, I'm on Linux Mint 17.1, but I'm installing Ubuntu server 14.04, which is why I'm on this Ubuntu channel.
[12:30] <linuxmint> Ben64: actually, I downgrade my 'harsh' to 'fair call'.
[12:31] <Ben64> linuxmint: you should have led with that then, instead of a silly line
[12:31] <linuxmint> Ben64: silly line? sorry, I'm a bit silly sometimes.
[12:32] <chris__> Hi guys. Got a minor issue: I have second cursor rotated counter clockwise about 2 cursors lengths below the real one which appears until I logout or reboot. Any idea what could be the source ?
[12:33] <basichash> basically my keyboard is broken and am wondering if i can usse my iphone as a keyboard
[12:33] <cfhowlett> basichash, via bluetooth maybe.  *maybe*
[12:33] <linuxmint> Ben64: as long as this is anonymous, then the white suits won't come and collect me for my silliness. Ok, back to Ubuntu install now after that short break.
[12:33] <cfhowlett> basichash, if it was android, yes
[12:34] <Ben64> linuxmint: a lot of people use this channel to get help with mint. it isn't supported here and is unfair to all involved. i was just making sure
[12:35] <basichash> cfhowlett: yeah tryng to find one
[12:35] <linuxmint> Ben64: yes, I agree.
[12:36] <EriC^^> basichash: you could, you can even use it as a mouse with remotemouse
[12:36] <Ben64> basichash: isn't it easier to buy a keyboard though?
[12:36] <EriC^^> basichash: not sure about the keyboard though, i guess so
[12:36] <linuxmint> Well, I'm a bit disappointed. Just came to the end of the Ubuntu nfs server install. Ran # service nfs-kernel-server restart. Error: nfs-kernel-server: unrecognized service.
[12:37] <basichash> Ben64: while i wait for new kb
[12:37] <cfhowlett> linuxmint, server?  #ubuntu-server
[12:37] <linuxmint> cfhowlett: ok, thanks, will try.
[12:37] <Ben64> basichash: uh, some vnc client then?
[12:37] <basichash> EriC^^: like this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/280924/how-to-make-iphone-as-a-mouse-via-bluetooth
[12:37] <vbgunz> I've double checked permissions all over for ssh and everything seems to be in tiptop shape. I can't use a no password private key to log onto a remote system. the remote system added my public key to its authorized_keys file. what could be causing this, what kind of trap can I be falling into here?
[12:38] <vbgunz> I'm in a pitfall and I can't figure it out
[12:39] <basichash> Ben64: academic network, not sure if i can
[12:41] <wild_oscar> what's kmix equivalent in unity? i.e, how do you restart the audio mixer?
[12:41] <wild_oscar> motivation: this is happening - http://askubuntu.com/questions/490813/audio-flicking-at-back-port
[12:41] <wild_oscar> and someone here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/874535 suggested a change in pulseaudio settings , which leaves the mixer without the ability to control volume
[12:45] <Guest2707> TLP or laptop-mode-tools? ubuntu 14.04
[12:49] <kevindf> Hello I installed Gnome Fallback recently and want my username to be shown in the top panel, Wich is not this case at the moment
[12:49] <kevindf> anyone know why my username does not show up? It did in the regular unity GUI
[13:02] <mesaboogie1> can someone pls explain all this de/wm/compositor stuff?
[13:03] <cfhowlett> mesaboogie1, computer code make screen look purdy ...
[13:03] <mesaboogie1> I want lightweight because I've only got a netbook, but I'd love to have some transparent windows
[13:03] <cfhowlett> mesaboogie1, that really is the purpose and essence of it all
[13:03] <mesaboogie1> cfhowlett: ah! I get it
[13:03] <mesaboogie1> lol
[13:03] <cfhowlett> mesaboogie1, you may have to choose ... try (1) lubuntu (2) xubuntu
[13:04] <mesaboogie1> but there's just so many choices, and I don't know/can't find the info for the best to choose
[13:04] <cfhowlett> !lubuntu | mesaboogie1
[13:04] <mesaboogie1> I'm on xubuntu
[13:05] <mesaboogie1> but lxde is still gtk isn't it?
[13:05] <cfhowlett> mesaboogie1, perfect!  you can test it: sudo apt-get install lxde           logout/choose lxde session/login
[13:05] <mesaboogie1> gtk2 or such right?
[13:05] <cfhowlett> mesaboogie1, honestly IDK
[13:05] <mesaboogie1> oh ok
[13:06] <EriC^^> mesaboogie1: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/desktop_environment#Comparison_of_desktop_environments
[13:07] <EriC^^> :D
[13:07] <mesaboogie1> thanks I'll read that
[13:08] <EriC^^> mesaboogie1: it's a chart
[13:08] <raven> test
[13:08] <raven> test
[13:08] <raven> 123
[13:09] <cfhowlett> !test | raven
[13:09] <raven> sorry
[13:09] <c0mrad3> how to know weather codeblocks is using 64 bit gcc or 32 bit gcc compiler
[13:09] <raven> my internet connection is working but no websites are loading....   :/
[13:10] <tiho> hi
[13:11] <c0mrad3> how to know weather codeblocks is using 64 bit gcc or 32 bit gcc compiler
[13:11] <cfhowlett> !patience | c0mrad3
[13:13] <rrr> any can help this ? "apt-get update" error http://paste.ubuntu.com/9456202/
[13:13] <xangua> !gpgkey | rrr
[13:13] <xangua> !gpgerr
[13:15] <rrr> xangua: where to find the GPG keyword for the repository?
[13:16] <xangua> rrr: read your 'error'
[13:19] <Shaaf> anyone works with dcm4che?
[13:21] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[13:22] <vangogh> hello guys, I have a question about tomcat
[13:22] <vangogh> since I have asked elsewhere I will post the link
[13:22] <vangogh> http://serverfault.com/questions/649187/cannot-access-tomcats-manager-webapp
[13:23] <ikonia> vangogh: is this the version from the ubuntu repos ?
[13:23] <vangogh> yes
[13:24] <vangogh> should I post my server.xml and tomcat-users.xml ?
[13:28] <c0mrad3> how to find out the weather our compiler is 32 bit or 64 bit in codeblocks
[13:28] <ikonia> it will be the version your OS is running as it calls the OS installed compile
[13:28] <ikonia> compiler
[13:30] <ikonia> vangogh: have you deployed the managment app ?
[13:30] <purvesh> how to update Ubuntu 13.04 to 13.10 offline ?
[13:31] <ikonia> purvesh: you need an offline copy of the repo
[13:31] <ikonia> you used to be able to do it with the alternative CD - but as thats gone I don't know if the standard CD supports it
[13:31] <purvesh> ikonia, I have all the iso
[13:31] <cfhowlett> purvesh, you mean update from one end-of-life release to the next end-of-life release?
[13:31] <ikonia> well thats a better point
[13:31] <ikonia> the fact that it's EOL
[13:31] <vangogh> ikonia:assuming this is an additional step not automatically executed, no
[13:31] <purvesh> cfhowlett, I have to do it till 14.04
[13:31] <vangogh> how should I deploy it
[13:32] <ikonia> vangogh: I'm working from memory, but I thought you had to deploy the admin app sepereratly
[13:32] <cfhowlett> purvesh, actually, you don't.  you can clean install 14.04
[13:32] <ikonia> it's a package called tomcat7-admin or something like that
[13:32] <purvesh> cfhowlett, but for that first I need to upgrade from 13.04 to 13.10
[13:32] <ikonia> I'm working from memory so you'll need to check that in more detail
[13:32] <vangogh> ikonia: I have installed tomcat7-admin
[13:32] <ikonia> ok, so that should install it
[13:32] <cfhowlett> purvesh, ???? no you don't need to do that.  clean install
[13:32] <purvesh> cfhowlett, My home folder is 1.5TB can't take backup of it
[13:32] <ikonia> vangogh: what does the tomcat logs show when you hit the admin url ?
[13:33] <vangogh> from /var/lib/tomcat7/logs ,
[13:33] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade | purvesh,  follow the wiki.  best of luck
[13:33] <purvesh> cfhowlett, I have all the iso
[13:34] <cfhowlett> purvesh, nope.  alternate install method = no more so no upgrade from .iso
[13:34] <vangogh> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/esUCTdqk
[13:34] <Shaaf> Who works with dcm4chee ?
[13:34] <vangogh> this is the most recent (today's ) log
[13:35] <cfhowlett> !alternate | purvesh
[13:35] <ikonia> vangogh: thats the access log, what does the security/error log say
[13:36] <cfhowlett> purvesh, as Morpheus would say: Good!  You have the .iso's!  But your problem is not upgrading; it's having 1 TB of important data and NO BACKUP!  Suggest you solve that and then worry about upgrading.
[13:37] <vangogh> ikonia: here is the right one, http://pastebin.com/LFjmXPF8
[13:38] <purvesh> cfhowlett, If I update online then there is any issue of removing settings or any other files ?
[13:38] <OliverUK> Hello
[13:38] <cfhowlett> purvesh, is it to much to hope that you have all that critical, non-backup data in a separate /home?
[13:39] <cfhowlett> purvesh, assume settings need to be re-done.  worry about the data.  If it's in a /home partition, life is SO much easier.
[13:39] <ikonia> vangogh: looks like many problems missing directories, and your config files does not have closing tags
[13:40] <cfhowlett> !home | purvesh
[13:41] <purvesh> cfhowlett, Yeah it is separate home partition but wanted to know which one is best I mean If offline is best then I'll create live USB and upgrade from that and if online is best and has less risk then i'll do it from software updater
[13:42] <ikonia> you are updating from EOL - to EOL, there is no "little risk"
[13:42] <ikonia> back up your data
[13:42] <ikonia> do not do anything before you have backed up your data
[13:42] <cfhowlett> purvesh, install LTS 14.04 for long term support AFTER you backup that 1.5 T of terribly important stuff
[13:42] <purvesh> ikonia, I do not have any portable hard disk ready
[13:42] <ikonia> then buy one
[13:42] <ikonia> do not try to upgrade until you have backed up your data
[13:43] <purvesh> ikonia, updating ubuntu will not affect my home partition right ?
[13:43] <vangogh> ikonia: I reviewed my tomcat-users.xml and found 4 errors
[13:43] <vangogh> now it works
[13:43] <cfhowlett> purvesh, here's a promise; you ignore good advice.  you lose your data.  you come back here crying, ranting and demanding that ubuntu fix your problem.  the promise is I WILL LAUGH at you.
[13:43] <vangogh> thanks you and have a nice day
[13:43] <ikonia> purvesh: it should not touch your data - but if the upgrade fails it could leave your disk worthless
[13:43] <ikonia> vangogh: great work
[13:43] <OliverUK> I have a Ubuntu Server virtual machine in Hyper-V, if I add another virtual processor to it, do I have to change anything in the Ubuntu Server config for it to use it or will it just start using it all by itself?  Thanks in advance
[13:43] <vangogh> *thanks to you
[13:44] <cfhowlett> OliverUK, GREAT question!  #ubuntu-server would know if this channel doesn't answer
[13:44] <OliverUK> cfhowlett: Ah thanks, I will check that out
[13:45] <OliverUK> I suspect it is the same behaviour for the desktop verison too though
[13:45] <ikonia> OliverUK: it's smp kernel
[13:45] <ikonia> OliverUK: reboot so it is aware of the hardware and thats it
[13:45] <OliverUK> ikonia: Brilliant, thanks for the prompt answer
[13:46] <inerkick> I'm trying to setup Aptana IDE as guided through this http://pategon.blogspot.in/2012/09/bitnami-djangostack-eclipse-pydev-aptana-en.html and I get this error . Kindly help to resolve this http://paste.ubuntu.com/9456581/
[13:46] <purvesh> cfhowlett, I do agree with your advices and suggestions, I am really thankful for that but the thing is I have very less time remain and one propitiatory application is not running on this machine due to 13.04 so In this less time I need to upgrade any how without wasting time
[13:46] <ikonia> purvesh: then buy a disk really quick
[13:47] <cfhowlett> purvesh, if you lose the data, but get a new install, you'll be happy, right?
[13:47] <purvesh> ikonia, Yeah I feel now that is the only option
[13:47] <purvesh> cfhowlett, obviously not !
[13:47] <gsingh> how to save screenbrightness on reboot (laptop) . Any easy way than usign rc.local
[13:48] <cfhowlett> purvesh, get thee to an electronics emporium and purchase thee backup solution then
[13:48] <purvesh> cfhowlett, Ok let me try to get some portable ! Thanks both of you :)
[13:49] <cfhowlett> purvesh, best of luck and don't forget: LTS is supported for 3 years
[13:49] <c0mrad3> how to find out the weather our compiler is 32 bit or 64 bit in code-blocks
[13:49] <ikonia> c0mrad3: I told you earlier
[13:49] <c0mrad3> sorry ikonia I have missed what you have told
[13:49] <c0mrad3> can you repeat it again
[13:49] <purvesh> cfhowlett, Yeah Last time I forgot that and installed 13.04 instead 12.04
[13:50] <inerkick> There is opensource book available with Ubuntu 14.04 in india. check it and buy and back up purvesh
[13:50] <ikonia> c0mrad3: codeblocks should call the compiler installed by your OS
[13:51] <c0mrad3> what if I have more than one compiler other that gcc
[13:51] <c0mrad3> then ikonia
[13:51] <ikonia> c0mrad3: which one have you pointed it about
[13:52] <ikonia> pointed it at sorry
[13:52] <c0mrad3> what is the default one for codeblocks in windows
[13:52] <c0mrad3> It doesn't have gcc installed right
[13:53] <c0mrad3> what I mean is that how to find the http://stackoverflow.com/questions/27402658/how-to-find-the-weather-code-blocks-is-using-gcc-32-bit-or-64-bit-compiler
[13:53] <ravigehlot> I am getting "Hash Sum Mismatch" when running "apt-get". Is there a known bug for this if so where can I find it?
[13:53] <mit> join ubuntu-touch
[13:58] <PCatinean> Hey guys, how do I kill the edges of my touchpad in ubuntu 14.10?
[13:58] <PCatinean> I touch it accidentaly every time and it's annoying as hell
[13:59] <parmiggiano> c0mrad3: your question is off-topic (linked to windows, not to ubuntu).  asking the same at different places is not good style btw.  (as a personal suggestion: work without an IDE if you don't even know which compiler you're using)
[14:05] <ravigehlot> In order to report a bug on Launchpad, is apport-bug the only way to do it?
[14:05] <ravigehlot> and ubuntu-bug/
[14:09] <ceed^> Hi, over the last couple of days I have gotten this error message when updating http://hastebin.com/ojisepatoy.avrasm   I do have Chrome installed but wonder if I simply have to wait until they fix their stuff?
[14:10] <xangua> !gpgerr | ceed^
[14:10] <borw3> Hello, can anyone help me, my school seemed to have blocked some ubuntu repositories, whenever I do apt-get update I get errors in he last Ubuntu repositories when connected to the school wifi. But if I use my own data connection everything works, so how can I use apt-get or apt-update with blocked repositories?
[14:11] <BluesKaj> ceed^, I've been getting a similar error, and running the add key with apt didn't work here...sum mismatch results
[14:11] <ceed^> xangua: Thanks, I have tried that but the result is the same when updating.
[14:11] <anomie21> Am I using grep correctly here? : grep -r “Keywords" /var/www/html/lunarrecruitment.co.uk - To look for the phrase 'Keywords' in all text in files in that dir?
[14:11] <xangua> ceed^: ok, sorry
[14:12] <ceed^> BluesKaj: Good thing it's not only me then :)
[14:12] <BluesKaj> xangua, it's seems to be a common error for the chrome browser deb
[14:13] <borw3> What are you guys talking about?
[14:13] <ceed^> borw3: There are errors when updating related to Google Chrome
[14:13] <OliverUK> borw3: Could you not remove the repos that are blocked from your sources files?
[14:14] <borw3> Maybe you guys are blocked from using that particular repository. They are ubuntu repositories that came with ubuntu, why would I remove them?
[14:14] <hdon> hi all :) how do i edit items in the unity launcher icon bar thing? i need to set the CWD before running one of my programs, but right-click yields no options for me!
[14:15] <BluesKaj> borw3, why, are you responsible for the the chrome deb in the repos?
[14:16] <OliverUK> borw3: Sorry I thought you said your school blocked them?
[14:16] <ceed^> borw3, Google provides their own repo when you install their deb.
[14:16] <necrogami> I've got xubuntu installed on my laptop, last night it was locked up nothing would respond and i hard shut it off. after that it no longer will boot. It keeps telling me
[14:17] <necrogami> "An error occurred while mounting /"
[14:17] <necrogami> I go into the manual recovery terminal and try and run mount -o remount,rw / it mount keeps telling me bad option or not mounted but / is currently mounted
[14:17] <borw3> OliverUK: Yes, it's the very critical repositories that are blocked, th ones I can get Kernel updates from and other important repositories.
[14:18] <necrogami> i have also tried mount -t ext4 -o remount,rw /dev/sda7 /
[14:18] <necrogami> same response
[14:19] <ceed^> borw3, how do they block the repos?
[14:20] <afflicto> I'm following the guide at AMD.com for installing amd drivers on linux and it tells me to type "sudosh ./amd-driver-installer-x86.x86_64.run" is it a typo? Shouldn't it be "sudo sh..." ?
[14:21] <borw3> ceed^: I normally only have access to the internet via a proxy school gives. I think the proxy servere blocks request for some particular ubuntu repos
[14:21] <ObrienDave> afflicto, looks like a typo
[14:21] <BluesKaj> afflicto, yes
[14:21] <afflicto> k thanks :P
[14:22] <necrogami> I've got xubuntu installed on my laptop, last night it was locked up nothing would respond and i hard shut it off. after that it no longer will boot. It keeps telling me "An error occurred while mounting /" I go into the manual recovery terminal and try and run mount -o remount,rw / it mount keeps telling me bad option or not mounted but / is currently mounted i have also tried "mount -t ext4 -o remount,rw /dev/sda7 /"
[14:23] <ceed^> borw3: Probably to prevent users from borking Ubuntu installs with kernel updates and such?
[14:24] <borw3> ceed^: What do you mean by borking?
[14:24] <cable> anyone know where I can find the setting to add time when you transition on a kanban board?
[14:25] <ceed^> necrogami: Have you booted from USB and checked if the partition can be accessed at all?
[14:25] <necrogami> got it booting... ran fsck /dev/sda7 without cd or disk
[14:25] <necrogami> and it got through whatever was holding it up
[14:26] <ceed^> borw3: borked=break. There are some updates that are more likely to break a system than others. Kernel updates is one of those. Distros like Linux Mint doesn't do kernel and libc updates at all by default.
[14:27] <borw3> creed^: I don't see why the school would want m not to update my computer, after all its mine no theirs, school computers don't even run linux
[14:27] <borw3> ceed^: I don't see why the school would want m not to update my computer, after all its mine no theirs, school computers don't even run linux
[14:28] <ceed^> borw3: I have no idea what your school is up to, but if they block certain repos including those with kernel updates they probably have a reason :)
[14:29] <borw3> ceed^::-(, but is there a way to tor apt-get?
[14:29] <ceed^> borw3: Have you tried other mirrors for your updates?
[14:30] <borw3> ceed^:It seems anything archive.ubuntu**** is blocked
[14:31] <teward> borw3: did you tell apt to use the proxy or is it trying to go out directly?
[14:32] <ceed^> borw3, well maybe your school IT people hate Ubuntu/Linux? :)
[14:32] <borw3> apt set itself automaticually once I put the whole system to go through that proxy from network settings
[14:33] <borw3> ceed^:apt set itself automaticually once I put the whole system to go through that proxy from network settings
[14:33]  * haro is back, autoaway, gone 14h8m33s 
[14:33]  * haro is away, dodo [l/on][p/off] 
[14:33] <teward> haro: turn that off
[14:33] <EriC^^> dodo?
[14:33] <EriC^^> how old are you? 3?
[14:33] <ceed^> borw3, have you tried other mirrors?
[14:35] <ceed^> seems like they block more that apt-get at borw3's place :)
[14:35] <teward> ceed^: sounds like a restrictive web proxy designed to block specific non-academic traffic, my high school had such a proxy set up
[14:36] <ceed^> teward: you are probably right. Never been exposed to that kind of restrictions. Sounds nasty.
[14:36]  * teward shrugs, then returns to poking old Wireshark with a stick
[14:37]  * ceed^ finally got Unity to look with Numix! :)
[14:40] <Marezz> I know this is an old article, but are those things true? https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/10/privacy-ubuntu-1210-amazon-ads-and-data-leaks .
[14:41] <EriC^^> Marezz: press settings > details > legal notice
[14:42] <EriC^^> Marezz: you have the right to remain silent :P
[14:44] <aayn> Hello :) . This is my first time on IRC
[14:45] <Shaaf> aayn: in the whole life?
[14:45] <Marezz> EriC^^ could you please be more speciffic? I am not at my computer ;)
[14:46] <aayn> Technically, first time using an IRC client. Yeah, first time
[14:47] <MrSavage> cool
[14:47] <ahmad_schlegel> hi
[14:47] <ahmad_schlegel> did a software update this morning
[14:47] <ahmad_schlegel> and now X is not starting
[14:47] <ahmad_schlegel> boots right into console
[14:47] <ahmad_schlegel> 12.04
[14:48] <ahmad_schlegel> andyone else have this issue
[14:48] <ahmad_schlegel> desktop
[14:48] <MrSavage> ahmad_schlegel, are you on your console right now?
[14:48] <ahmad_schlegel> yeah
[14:48] <MrSavage> ahmad_schlegel, did you check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[14:49] <ahmad_schlegel> nope
[14:49] <ahmad_schlegel> what should i look for
[14:49] <EriC^^> Error
[14:49] <ahmad_schlegel> can i just manually try "xinit"
[14:50] <EdwardIII> hey, i've got a machine here running oneric: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule
[14:50] <EdwardIII> that's past EOL now right?
[14:50] <EriC^^> !oneric
[14:51] <MrSavage> ahmad_schlegel, you could also try fixing broken package dependencies using the recovery menu
[14:51] <MrSavage> Ahnberg, You know how to access the recovery menu?
[14:51] <EdwardIII> ah, helpful bot
[14:51] <EdwardIII> what's the best thing to do? apt-get dist-upgrade?
[14:51]  * EriC^^ gives ubottu a pet
[14:52] <EriC^^> !eolupgrades | this explains the process
[14:53] <ObrienDave> EdwardIII, safest is probably a full install of 14.04.1 LTS
[14:53] <EriC^^> EdwardIII: the best would be to fresh install 14.04, otherwise you have to do-release-upgrade your way release by release to 14.04
[14:53] <EdwardIII> looks easy heh: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades/Oneiric
[14:53] <wernerherzog> Hello everyone
[14:53] <AlexPortable> How can I solve ubuntu freeze on my laptop?
[14:53] <thomas1> anyone know how i can decrease the default font-size in gnome-terminal?
[14:54] <EriC^^> EdwardIII: backup and fresh install, if possible ;)
[14:54] <MrSavage> AlexPortable, what does it do that causes it to freeze?
[14:54] <EdwardIII> it's so old, maybe i should create a new machine, then migrate everything
[14:54] <wernerherzog> thomas1
[14:54] <MatteusBlanc> AlexPortable, just hold down the power button
[14:54] <AlexPortable> MrSavage: no idea, it's random. When I open the dash on a live cd for example it freezes
[14:54] <MatteusBlanc> AlexPortable - then restart
[14:54] <EriC^^> EdwardIII: yeah, that sounds pretty airtight
[14:54] <wernerherzog> you can do a right click and go to "profiles"
[14:54] <AlexPortable> MatteusBlanc: and then it freezes again when I use it again
[14:54] <wernerherzog> *profile
[14:55] <EdwardIII> EriC^^: bit of a PITA heh but not as big as a PITA as having a server go down mid-upgrade and never come back up again
[14:55] <AlexPortable> MatteusBlanc: I don't want a way to bypass the freeze, I want a way to solve it
[14:55] <wernerherzog> and then profile settings
[14:55] <EriC^^> EdwardIII: true
[14:55] <MatteusBlanc> AlexPortable - boot it up, check the logs (syslog and dmsg). Maybe faulty hardware (most likely hdd). Rebuild may be required
[14:56] <ahmad_schlegel> checked my Xorg and just saw much fxglr stuff no errors
[14:56] <MatteusBlanc> AlexPortable - wrt bypassing. Once it has frozen, I mean really frozen so CTRL ALT F2 etc doesn't yeild a terminal
[14:56] <MatteusBlanc> AlexPortable - then power is the best bet
[14:56] <ahmad_schlegel> what was in that update this morning?
[14:56] <AlexPortable> ctrl alt f1 doesn't works, alt+printscreen+reisubo doesn't works either
[14:56] <AlexPortable> MatteusBlanc: I can't check syslogs, it's a live cd
[14:56] <AlexPortable> I replaced the harddisk
[14:56] <wernerherzog> the rest in German for me, so idk know the setting name. but the option at the bottom of the general settings is what you're looking for, thomas1
[14:56] <MrSavage> AlexPortable, Are you using multiple monitors?
[14:56] <AlexPortable> I have an internal one, which broke off. Using external monitor
[14:57] <MrSavage> AlexPortable, and you're on your laptop?
[14:57] <AlexPortable> What do you mean?
[14:57] <MrSavage> AlexPortable, are you having this issue on a laptop?
[14:57] <AlexPortable> yes
[14:58] <AlexPortable> MatteusBlanc: harddisk can also gives problems on a liveusb?
[14:58] <MrSavage> AlexPortable, did you plug your monitor to a graphics card or your onboard mobo's socket?
[14:58] <AlexPortable> MrSavage: onboard, it's a laptop
[14:58] <wernerherzog> here it goes: I'm trying to excess the power settings in gnome 3.14. I want to my laptop NOT to go into stand-by after an hour
[14:58] <MrSavage> AlexPortable, Did you start having the problems when you started using this monitor?
[14:58] <AlexPortable> no
[14:59] <MatteusBlanc> AlexPortable - hdd with live usb should not be an issue
[14:59] <AlexPortable> MatteusBlanc: then what is wrong?
[14:59] <MatteusBlanc> AlexPortable - if you are using a live set up then you are running from ram/usb
[14:59] <wernerherzog> I only have the option to change the screen brightness settings
[14:59] <MrSavage> AlexPortable, I want to guess that your /etc/X11/xorg.conf got messed up. But I don't know
[14:59] <wernerherzog> anyone know what's were to find the other settings?
[14:59] <MatteusBlanc> AlexPortable - it sounds like a hardware issue, perhaps the ram. you can run a ram check via the bios
[15:00] <AlexPortable> ram check from livecd (memtest86) didn't gave any issues
[15:00] <MatteusBlanc> AlexPortable - from your description the machine does sound like it's seen better days e.g. broken screen
[15:00] <AlexPortable> I also put the old ram back into it (while using it I had 2x2GB), now the default 2 GB in it
[15:00] <MatteusBlanc> hmm
[15:00] <AlexPortable> MrSavage: every live usb session /etc/X11/xorg.conf gets messed up?
[15:00] <ahmad_schlegel> is "startx" the command to restart X from bash?
[15:00] <MatteusBlanc> could be the graphics driver. do you get the issues if you boot to the cli
[15:00] <MrSavage> AlexPortable, no
[15:00] <MatteusBlanc> init 3 perhaps?
[15:01] <AlexPortable> how can i imediatly boot to cli?
[15:01] <ribisel> I ran dmesg to find my usb drive. among others I got this message: sdb: sdb1. Now is it /dev/sdb or /dev sdb1?
[15:01] <MatteusBlanc> it's a boot option - google
[15:01] <MrSavage> AlexPortable, ctrl+alt+f<1-6>
[15:01] <eXistenZNL> ribisel, sdb1 is the first partition on your disk sdb
[15:01] <eXistenZNL> so mount sdb1
[15:01] <MatteusBlanc> ribisel sdb is the disk, sdb1 is the partition
[15:01] <MrSavage> AlexPortable, to go into recovery mode, press escape while grub loads
[15:01] <MatteusBlanc> ribisel - $df -h what does that give you
[15:02] <AlexPortable> MrSavage: live usb has grub?
[15:02] <MatteusBlanc> ribisel, 1. open a terminal, 2. type "df -h" 3. paste the output here
[15:02] <MrSavage> AlexPortable, No, i'm talkign about your ubuntu boot
[15:03] <ribisel> MatteusBlanc, df -h does not list the usb drive
[15:03] <AlexPortable> Well I prefer to use the live usb now since my current install is broken
[15:03] <MatteusBlanc> because it is not mounted. So "sudo mount /mnt /dev/sdb1"
[15:03] <ribisel> MatteusBlanc, eXistenZNL, ok, so if I want to create a bootable usb drive should I use /dev/sdb1 or /dev/sdb?
[15:04] <MatteusBlanc> sdb1
[15:04] <ribisel> thanks!
[15:04] <MatteusBlanc> no problema
[15:06] <ahmad_schlegel> well still can't get X to work after this mornings software update
[15:07] <ahmad_schlegel> tried "sudo startx" and get black screen with unblinking cursor
[15:07] <ahmad_schlegel> any way to roll back most recent software updates
[15:07] <MrSavage> ahmad_schlegel, any red flags from /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[15:07] <MrSavage> ahmad_schlegel, also you might wan to try #xorg
[15:10] <ahmad_schlegel> nope no errors just a lot of fxglr stuff
[15:10] <xreal> Isn't there any newer kernel than 3.2 for "precise"?
[15:11] <ahmad_schlegel> but can i roll back the most recent updates?
[15:11] <BluesKaj> ahmad_schlegel, after booting into the black screen do ctl+alt+F1-F6 to drop to a VT/TTY, log in then do sudo service lightdm start, if that gives no response, then run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade, then start lightdm again
[15:11] <ahmad_schlegel> thnx will try
[15:12] <xangua> xreal: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[15:12] <ahmad_schlegel> just to note it goes right from the ubuntu load screen to the terminal console
[15:12] <xreal> xangua: thx
[15:12] <BluesKaj> ahmad_schlegel, ok then try the lightdm start command first
[15:15] <AlexPortable> MrSavage: Ubuntu 10.04 works fine, 12.04 has problems, 14.04 has problems too
[15:15] <luci> estou com problema para abrir o terminal no ubuntu studio
[15:16] <luci> Falha ao executar o emulador de terminal padrão.
[15:16] <BluesKaj> !pt | luci
[15:16] <ObrienDave> !es|luci
[15:16] <luci> alguem pode me ajudar ,instalei hoje o ubuntu
[15:17] <AlexPortable> Yes I would like some mozzarella with that
[15:17] <AnonUnk> lol
[15:23] <gnorf> Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "overlay-scrollbar"
[15:23] <gnorf> but the module is installed.
[15:24] <gnorf> Is this normal?
[15:30] <ahmad_schlegel> hi still having display manager problems after this mrnings update
[15:30] <ahmad_schlegel> tried "sudo service lightdm start"
[15:30] <ahmad_schlegel> after apt-get update / upgrade
[15:30] <ahmad_schlegel> and get lightdm display manager [fail]
[15:31] <Pici> 70
[15:31] <ahmad_schlegel> and then the screen freezes and i have to manually power cycle
[15:35] <mregg> Hi all, I really need some help configuring Squid (Ubuntu 14.04) to allow users to authenticate against an AD server. From the proxy, I can wbinfo -a username%password successfully, however when Windows users send their credentials through their browsers, it just doesn't work. Please help or guide me to the proper log file... I don't really know what to do. Thanks
[15:36] <ahmad_schlegel> checking /var/log/lightdm/x-0.log
[15:38] <ahmad_schlegel> and i get a warning
[15:38] <ahmad_schlegel> (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCU:0@0:1:1) found
[15:39] <ahmad_schlegel> followed by the error:
[15:40] <ahmad_schlegel> /usr/bin/X : symbol lookup error in path to fglrx_drv.so
[15:41] <ahmad_schlegel> the symbol is GlxInitVisuals2D
[15:45] <jkoudys_> I just ran a SMART self-test on my harddisk, which failed - general assessment was 'old age'. It's only a 1.5y/o disk, but can I be reasonably confident that it's just the disk, and not the hddisk controller or something else causing it?
[15:45] <jkoudys_> ie buy a new little hd and everything will be  good?
[15:47] <gomes01> #ubuntu-br
[15:47] <ig08669> #
[15:48] <SchrodingersScat> jkoudys_: I try to think of hdd as disposable, who knows when they could fail.
[15:48] <obiwan> ubuntu people, can someone help me disable the login password? i cannot seem to find how to disable it
[15:49] <jkoudys_> SchrodingersScat, hehe your name is very appropriate to that discussion
[15:49] <jkoudys_> my disk is both degraded and functioning, until I run SMART on it
[15:51] <NikP> Is there any Screencast software wich can handle OpenGL Captures and the microphone? Kazam doesn't works very good with OpenGL.
[15:52] <monkeynutts> hello, can anyone please take a look at http://pastebin.com/hiCaWTYQ and give advice/opinion please
[15:52] <monkeynutts> its for making a vm with 2 nics into a transparent proxy
[15:52] <monkeynutts> with the ability to bypass squid should it be needed
[15:52] <monkeynutts> the machine is a vm on esxi host.
[15:53] <ahmad_schlegel> can i update fglrx from the command line?
[15:53] <monkeynutts> ubuntu 14.04 lts
[15:55] <ahmad_schlegel> it looks like i may need to update my ati drivers
[15:56] <obiwan> ubuntu people, can someone show me how to disable the login password? i cannot seem to find how to disable it?
[15:56] <eXistenZNL> obiwan what version and what password? (boot / login)
[15:56] <Seryth> obi12341, check this if you're using 14.04. If it doesn't work, let me know http://askubuntu.com/questions/452793/how-to-disable-password-after-login-to-14-04
[15:57] <obiwan> eXistenZNL: version 14.10 and just my login password, so when i boot, i boot immidiatly to the desktop
[15:57] <eXistenZNL> obiwan see the link of Seryth or maybe this might help http://webistrano.enrise.com/projects/48/stages/242/deployments/15444
[15:57] <eXistenZNL> omg
[15:57] <eXistenZNL> WRONG URL
[15:57] <ahmad_schlegel> but i don't have a display
[15:57] <eXistenZNL> obiwan http://askubuntu.com/questions/29958/how-do-i-make-ubuntu-not-ask-me-for-my-password
[15:57] <eXistenZNL> thats what I meant ^
[15:57] <ahmad_schlegel> i'm using elinks and get get the link from the ati website
[15:58] <Kira9204> obiwan: there is an "automatic login" uder user accounts in settings
[15:58] <Seryth> eXistenZNL, that was my next link ready to send :P
[15:58] <ahmad_schlegel> can someone provide a direct link url
[15:58] <ahmad_schlegel> amd apu a8
[15:58] <obiwan> Kira9204: not in 14.10
[15:58] <eXistenZNL> Seryth, :)
[15:58] <Kira9204> oO
[15:58] <Seryth> ahmad_schlegel, what do you want?
[15:58] <Kira9204> Cannonical, staph
[15:59] <Kira9204> messigt with the location of things all the time
[15:59] <obiwan> eXistenZNL: this might be useful, but i am new to ubuntu, where is system>preferences? i only know how to get system settings and it does not have preferences
[16:00] <Seryth> obi12341, from the dash start typing "user"
[16:00] <Seryth> obiwan, ^ sorry obi12341
[16:00] <Kira9204> obiwan: then i cant help uou, last time i used u ubtu (14?) there was an option under users
[16:00] <Seryth> It's in "User Accounts"
[16:00] <eXistenZNL> obiwan, im running xubuntu so not really sure bout that :)
[16:01] <obiwan> eXistenZNL: oh ok, in 14.10 there is system settings and there is no option for disabling login user accnout password, and even a screen saver, i am not sure if it was never there or they removed it, so i though i would ask here :-)
[16:01] <ahmad_schlegel> a direct link to the latest ati catalyst driver please, for an amd a8 apu
[16:02] <ahmad_schlegel> cant get it via elinks without javascript enabled ;(
[16:03] <ahmad_schlegel> fglrxinfo gives me an error
[16:03] <Seryth> ahmad_schlegel, amd a-8 7600 apu?
[16:03] <ahmad_schlegel> 3500-m amd a8 apu
[16:03] <ahmad_schlegel> first gen
[16:04] <Seryth> Right. Hold on ahmad_schlegel, I'll see what I can do
[16:04] <ahmad_schlegel> thnx so much
[16:05] <gabybro1> hi
[16:07] <Seryth> ahmad_schlegel, if you have the URL of the page with the drivers on I will get you a direct link
[16:09] <ahmad_schlegel> Seryth, sorry to trouble you, but you nedd not bother
[16:09] <Seryth> ahmad_schlegel, no problem, you got it?
[16:09] <ahmad_schlegel> I think I will have to manually purge and reinstal fglrx
[16:09] <ahmad_schlegel> whatever it is
[16:10] <ahmad_schlegel> this mornings updates blew away my display
[16:10] <ahmad_schlegel> be warned!
[16:10] <Seryth> ahmad_schlegel, okay, good luck!
[16:10] <ahmad_schlegel> thnx
[16:11] <ahmad_schlegel> to be honest, its not so bad being without a GUI
[16:11] <ahmad_schlegel> reminds me of the good ole days ;)
[16:11] <rob__609> #join haskell
[16:11] <rob__609> join Haskell
[16:12] <ahmad_schlegel> "/join #haskell"
[16:12] <Seryth> ahmad_schlegel, without the quotes buddy ;)
[16:12] <ahmad_schlegel> i was telling rob
[16:12] <somsip> !who | ahmad_schlegel
[16:13] <jimcky> hi guys, is there a proper way for me to activate the turbo boost for my Intel i5 Laptop? It feels like I am always underclocked now
[16:13] <AlexPortable> How can I install i386 on amd64 system?
[16:13] <ahmad_schlegel> wow thats one wise bot
[16:13] <somsip> AlexPortable: download the i386 iso and install it
[16:13] <Kira9204> AlexPortable: you just do?
[16:13] <AlexPortable> i just installed amd64
[16:14] <AlexPortable> I mean install i386 software
[16:14] <AlexPortable> I want to install printer drives, but it says I have wrong architecture
[16:14] <Kira9204> both works equally fine
[16:15] <bynarie> how do i PROPERLY upgrade kernel, and still have functioning nvidia driver. i know how to install the new kernel, but when i do, it breaks the drivers. ive tried reinstalling, doesnt work
[16:15] <bynarie> thanks
[16:16] <AlexPortable> Kira9204: tell that to my printer drivers
[16:17] <Cheaterman_lapto> wtfbuntu has smartmontools hard-depending on postfix? O__O
[16:17] <Cheaterman_lapto> I mean Ubuntu*
[16:17] <Cheaterman_lapto> I'm on a live cd and i need smartmontools, I install it, and I get greeted by the dpkg-configure of postfix O__O
[16:18] <AlexPortable> How can I install i386 .deb on amd64 system?
[16:19] <bynarie> AlexPortable, sudo apt-get install package-i386
[16:19] <bynarie> or package:i386
[16:20] <Kira9204> AlexPortable: thowever, x32 cannot address more than 3.75GB of RAM, if thats a large problem for you
[16:20] <Kira9204> (and it cannot run x64 obviously)
[16:20] <ahmad_schlegel> bye all and thnx again for your help
[16:21] <AlexPortable> bynarie: it's a .deb
[16:21] <AlexPortable> Kira9204: yes that's a problem
[16:21] <AlexPortable> I don't like to waste ram
[16:21] <bynarie> oh ok
[16:21] <bynarie> dpkg doesnt work?
[16:21] <Cheaterman_lapto> Kira9204: That's wrong and you know it
[16:22] <Cheaterman_lapto> How can you DARE saying that on a ##linux channel
[16:22] <Cheaterman_lapto> There's PAE, 36 bits of addressing
[16:22] <welovfree> hello can I still install ubuntu inside windows using wubi?
[16:22] <Cheaterman_lapto> Kira9204: I know it looks like it, but you have to realize #ubuntu isn't #windows
[16:22] <bynarie> AlexPortable, have you tried sudo dpkg --force-architecture -i your-package.deb
[16:23] <Cheaterman_lapto> It runs on a much cleaner kernel, even if the userspace is similar.
[16:23] <AlexPortable> bynarie: that worked. thanks
[16:23] <bynarie> no prob
[16:23] <turd_bird> too lazy to config muh weechat. Anyone have sexified config files they're willing to share?
[16:25] <Wtf_> !connect irc.europnet.org
[16:25] <welovfree> exit
[16:26] <Kira9204> Cheaterman_lapto: as far as i know thats a hardware limitation i thougt all OSes adhered to, but if there is a workaroind then great
[16:26] <Kira9204> Cheaterman_lapto: would that have a performace inpact tjo?
[16:26] <Cheaterman_lapto> Kira9204: It's not a "workaround", it's a technology
[16:26] <Cheaterman_lapto> Nope
[16:26] <Cheaterman_lapto> It's hardware :)
[16:27] <Cheaterman_lapto> Lemme find you a wikipedia page since you don't wanna search
[16:27] <Cheaterman_lapto> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension
[16:27] <Cheaterman_lapto> Kira9204: ^
[16:27] <Cheaterman_lapto> « PAE was first implemented in the Intel Pentium Pro in 1995 »
[16:28] <Cheaterman_lapto> Stupid NT kernel having a stupid memory addressing scheme has nothing to do with that :)
[16:28] <Cheaterman_lapto> And Linux properly supports PAE
[16:28] <Cheaterman_lapto> You can get up to... 64T of RAM on a 32 bits machine or something
[16:28] <Cheaterman_lapto> Ah no 64G
[16:28] <Kira9204> so its down to swindows sucking as usual
[16:28] <Cheaterman_lapto> Not bad still
[16:28] <Cheaterman_lapto> Kira9204: Precisely buddy :)
[16:28] <Cheaterman_lapto> So please don't « insult » Linux by saying it has the same drawbacks ^^
[16:29] <Cheaterman_lapto> That makes me feel baaad :(
[16:29] <Cheaterman_lapto> A properly configured 32 bits kernel can address 64G of RAM :)
[16:32] <Cheaterman_lapto> Ubuntu's liveUSB system is really fast
[16:32] <Cheaterman_lapto> I mean I had to struggle with a WinRT tablet these days... optimized ARM my ***, it's slow slow slow
[16:33] <Cheaterman_lapto> Certainly my desktop has much more processing power but still...
[16:33] <Cheaterman_lapto> Being I/O limited, my browser doesn't load in 15 secs
[16:33] <Cheaterman_lapto> It loads in 3 max
[16:33] <_war10ck_> Ubuntu is very fast, and I am Batman. Period
[16:33] <Cheaterman_lapto> _war10ck_: :DDD
[16:44] <nanmes> ;wc
[16:44] <overkill> nick/ gooral
[16:48] <solars> quick question, I want to set up a VPN and know it's possible through the network manager icon easily. Can I somehow do this via ssh (-X)?
[16:48] <eXistenZNL> ssh is no vpn
[16:48] <eXistenZNL> but you can tunnel traffic over ssh
[16:49] <bynarie> does this fstab entry look OK for an NTFS partition? The UUID is correct, im just concerned about the options sw and 00 (UUID=0A0628E36960F105 /home/heath/backup ntfs sw 0 0 )
[16:49] <bynarie> ?
[16:49] <ankk> what's difference between normal ubuntu and lts version?
[16:49] <eXistenZNL> solars, look on google for 'ssh local port forwarding'
[16:49] <solars> eXistenZNL, no, I want to setup my ubuntu box as a vpn server via ssh -X
[16:49] <solars> no port forwarding
[16:49] <solars> I need to open this network manager somehow
[16:49] <solars> via ssh -X
[16:50] <bynarie> ankk, lts just means long term support.. all other editions are only supported for 9 months... LTS are supported for 4 years
[16:50] <bynarie> same os though
[16:50] <eXistenZNL> ssh -X gives you the option to see X via SSH but that's still no VPN, vpn is simply another technique
[16:50] <Kira9204> solars: ssh can tunnel ports, just add what you need
[16:51] <solars> Kira9204, eXistenZNL you understand me wrong. I want to open the network manager on a remote box, as it allows to easily set up a VPN server
[16:51] <solars> this has nothing to do with the actual vpn connection
[16:51] <eXistenZNL> ah now i get it
[16:51] <eXistenZNL> sorry :D
[16:51] <solars> heh
[16:51] <eXistenZNL> why dont u use vnc to view the desktop on the other side? Tunnel that port over SSH and presto
[16:52] <eXistenZNL> just set up a vnc server / client
[16:52] <solars> ah right
[16:52] <solars> thats a good idea
[16:52] <solars> :)
[16:52] <solars> thanks
[16:52] <eXistenZNL> also, servers running guis :( thats not cool bro :P
[16:52] <solars> its a media server :)
[16:52] <eXistenZNL> ok that makes sense :)
[16:52] <eXistenZNL> gl
[16:52] <solars> and I'm too lazy for the manual setup
[16:52] <solars> :) thanks
[16:55] <bynarie> AlexPortable, you can also add i386 to your architecture by doing "sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386" so you dont have to use the --force-architecture flag
[16:56] <OerHeks> bynarie, no need for that, ubuntu is multiarch for a long time now, just add <package>:i386
[16:57] <bynarie> hm ok cool.. didnt know that. thanks
[16:57] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiArch
[16:59] <Labrus> Does anybody knows to use good the program protel?
[17:01] <OerHeks> Labrus, what is protel ?
[17:02] <OerHeks> Labrus, if it is the PCB software, see wineHQ https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=3340
[17:03] <Labrus> it's related with degisn circuit in this program in order to print after in the board.
[17:03] <Labrus> υεσ ιτ πψβ.
[17:03] <Labrus> yes it;s pcb.
[17:03] <Labrus> *it's
[17:18] <steve_fi> hey, does anyone know how to probe for SDIO devices?
[17:20] <s0r1n> how to set remote desktop on ubuntu 10.04 to alow view anothe computer with linux mint 17?
[17:20] <cfhowlett> s0r1n, 10.04 is LONG past end-of-life = no longer supported = no security upgrades/updates ... 14.04 is current LTS
[17:22] <s0r1n> i know,but is functional ,update from server edition until april 2015
[17:23] <daftykins> s0r1n: yeah only server is supported... not desktop.
[17:24] <anonymous> 1
[17:24] <anonymous> working
[17:24] <s0r1n> yes,but whay receive update ?
[17:24] <s0r1n> i use 10.04.4
[17:25] <cfhowlett> s0r1n, do you understand: you have NO SECURITY if take 10.04.4 on the internet.  you are vulnerable.  upgrade
[17:25] <k1l> s0r1n: 10.04 desktop is EOL
[17:25] <OerHeks> s0r1n, to view a remote desktop, you need a desktop on your server, and that part is EOL, not your server
[17:25] <anonymous> update?
[17:25] <cfhowlett> !details | anonymous,
[17:28] <anonymous> 1
[17:28] <anonymous> 2
[17:28] <k1l> anonymous: stop that please
[17:29] <anonymous> ok(
[17:30] <sudormrf> !ping
[17:31] <anonymous> b!all
[17:32] <cfhowlett> anonymous, please ask your ubuntu support question or play in some other channel
[17:32] <MatteusBlanc> anonymous what are you trying to do?
[17:33] <anonymous> nothing
[17:33] <anonymous> ok bye bye
[17:34] <daftykins> at last.
[17:34] <balazs> anyone got a recommendation on a graphics card supporting dual monitors ? I'm not a gamer, just programmer
[17:35] <daftykins> balazs: what's your current hardware? even intel on-die graphics does dual-head now.
[17:35] <daftykins> you'd be hard pushed to find anything that doesn't
[17:35] <bynarie> balazs, nvidia cards do mostly... i got nvidia geforce gtx 770m(laptop model)
[17:35] <bynarie> any nvidia geforce gtx card prolly does.. and like daftykins said, itd be hard to find one that doesnt
[17:36] <Sagitt> hallo, how i can do a comamand that automatically send "enter"? there is a specific charter or string'
[17:36] <balazs> I've got some Dell stuff from Costco, and have 2 monitors, but only one of them is DVI
[17:37] <daftykins> balazs: so the other is VGA? plenty of cards can be bought with 1 x DVI and 1 x VGA, or 2 x DVI with an adapter used to convert one to VGA
[17:37] <bynarie> Sagitt, http://www.asciitable.com/
[17:38] <bynarie> that will give you all the codes for each CHAR
[17:38] <bynarie> Sagitt, what programming language are you refering too?
[17:38] <balazs> Would a VGA -> DVI change improve pic quality ?
[17:38] <bynarie> most languages you can use \n or \r\n
[17:39] <Sagitt> bynarie sorry, i solved it
[17:39] <Sagitt> is not for a programming language
[17:39] <BluesKaj> balazs, no
[17:39] <bynarie> ok no problem
[17:39] <daftykins> balazs: yes.
[17:39] <Sagitt> is for Prompt client on iOS
[17:39] <Sagitt> that have clips
[17:39] <Sagitt> (ssh client)
[17:39] <daftykins> balazs: likely it'll make functionality with Linux OSs in general far simpler, too
[17:40] <daftykins> digital interfaces (DV) are far better than the nasty ol' analog (VGA)
[17:40] <tgm4883> balazs: you don't magically get better quality using a VGA -> DVI adapter. Your source is still bad
[17:40] <BluesKaj> vga to dvi is still a vga source quality, balazs
[17:40] <balazs> tgm4883: I asked if I get a new graphics card with 2 DVI outs
[17:40] <balazs> instead of 1 VGA 1 DVI
[17:41] <BluesKaj> balazs,  then yes, if your gpu is capable of igher resolution
[17:41] <tgm4883> balazs: That isn't how I read that, but you would be moving from analog to digital, so yea
[17:41] <BluesKaj> higher
[17:41] <daftykins> balazs: oh, i thought you meant changing to a natively DVI screen.
[17:42] <daftykins> balazs: i already answered your question in my earlier reply, perhaps you can read it again?
[17:42] <balazs> daftykins: appreciated. I just responded to other peeps who misunderstood my question
[17:43] <daftykins> balazs: so, what do you have at the moment?
[17:44] <balazs> I have a graphics card with one DVi and one VGA out. And 2 monitors that take either VGA or DVI
[17:44] <daftykins> balazs: but you want to upgrade?
[17:44] <balazs> I'll buy a graphics card with 2 DVI outs. Any recommendation for that ? Just for video and coding, not gaming
[17:44] <balazs> daftykins: yes, logical is to upgrade the card, right ?
[17:45] <daftykins> balazs: it's just that originally it sounded like you couldn't do dual-screen right now, but you say you have a card with both outputs so it should be fine?
[17:46] <balazs> daftykins: sorry if I wasn't clear. I want to avoid using VGA to save my eyes :)
[17:46] <holstein> balazs: vga/dvi wont effect your eyes at all..
[17:46] <balazs> holstein: VGA pic is noticable blurrier
[17:46] <daftykins> balazs: ah-ha, yes natively digital connections are always better. just anything nvidia i would look at
[17:47] <Ste91> ciao ragazzi non riesco a cancellare e spostare delle cartelle
[17:47] <EriC^^> !it | Ste91
[17:47] <mynameisdeleted> how well does ubuntu run on a surface pro 3?
[17:47] <holstein> try it live, mynameisdeleted
[17:47] <Ste91> ubottu,  grazie non lo trovavo
[17:48] <holstein> nothing about ubuntu is preventing microsoft from supporting linux on the surface..
[17:48] <mynameisdeleted> I want to know before I buy.. but I guess I can try from usb stick in the microsoft or staples store
[17:48] <cfhowlett> mynameisdeleted, that's the way to do it ...
[17:48] <holstein> mynameisdeleted: you cant, though.. its not an ubuntu device
[17:48] <holstein> mynameisdeleted: either buy with linux preloaded, test before you buy, or make certain you can return the device
[17:48] <mynameisdeleted> it can boot off usb.. I'll tell them thats a sale requirement that I can boot another os
[17:49] <daftykins> mynameisdeleted: buy things that are *supposed* to run Ubuntu, not things that you *hope* will run it
[17:49] <mynameisdeleted> whats a good i7 tablet that runs ubuntu?
[17:49] <mynameisdeleted> with touchscreen?
[17:49] <mynameisdeleted> like surface pro with support for 16GB or 32GB ram on a tablet
[17:49] <holstein> mynameisdeleted: i would ask the vendors for linux support..
[17:49] <cfhowlett> !touch | mynameisdeleted nexus 10
[17:50] <OerHeks> are there any i7 tablets yet?
[17:50] <mynameisdeleted> I think darktable and lightworks both require intel cpu
[17:50] <mynameisdeleted> surface pro 3 is an i7 tablet with up to 32GB ram
[17:50] <mynameisdeleted> and 3d video card
[17:50] <mynameisdeleted> very desktop like
[17:50] <mynameisdeleted> faster than most desktops
[17:50] <daftykins> mynameisdeleted: that wouldn't be a tablet anymore.
[17:50] <holstein> mynameisdeleted: try it and see.. i would prefer an intel chip.. the acer c720 i have is touch screen, not a tablet, and an intel chip, and very reasonable..
[17:50] <mynameisdeleted> the part I'd want to know about is bios and touchscreen support
[17:50] <k1l> mynameisdeleted: read that thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2231207
[17:51] <mynameisdeleted> anyways tablet is nice for convenience of bringing on location
[17:51] <mynameisdeleted> I use an ipad for tethered shooting right now
[17:51] <holstein> mynameisdeleted: you cant really know about support til you try it. ubuntu is open and all of linux is open. any table creator can choose to support it
[17:51] <mynameisdeleted> ok
[17:51] <cfhowlett> mynameisdeleted, http://developer.ubuntu.com/start/ubuntu-for-devices/devices/
[17:51] <mynameisdeleted> I'd just like to fidn someone whos tried it .. but maybe I'll be a first to try it
[17:52] <holstein> mynameisdeleted: if they dont say they officially support it, then, i try it first hand, and see.. and make sure i can either try it live before i buy, or return it
[17:52] <k1l> mynameisdeleted: did you see my link?
[17:52] <holstein> mynameisdeleted: for me, it doesnt matter who else says things work. i need to see it work for myself, and how hard it is to make it work for me.. i prefer the firt-hand data
[17:52] <mynameisdeleted> nexus is arm based
[17:52] <DzAirmaX> hi all
[17:53] <mynameisdeleted> I bet darktable and blender can work fine on arm
[17:53] <k1l> mynameisdeleted: see the forums post. no need to guess in here when all the info is in that forums post already.
[17:54] <DzAirmaX> can someone explain me how to install a systemd service ?
[17:54] <holstein> DzAirmaX: what service?
[17:54] <DzAirmaX> http://guide.munin-monitoring.org/en/latest/example/rrdcached/systemd.html#example-rrdcached-systemd
[17:54] <k1l> and there is no reason it should not work on arm. only difference there is, that the drivers are not that easy to get like on the pc side.
[17:55] <DzAirmaX> I tried the one with upstart but its dosnt work i am losing it xD
[17:55] <bynarie> anyone know how to fix the bug with buntu and bluetooth audio sink?? (pactl load-module module-bluetooth-discover
[17:55] <bynarie> Failure: Module initialization failed
[17:55] <bynarie> )
[17:56] <holstein> bynarie: whats the bug #?
[17:56] <bynarie> holstein, sorry i dont know... hold on
[17:57] <DzAirmaX> holstein, I installed rrdcached successfully, then I try to create a process for munin : https://munin.readthedocs.org/en/latest/master/rrdcached.html
[17:58] <holstein> DzAirmaX: all i would do is look for an in repo alternative..
[17:59] <DzAirmaX> its upstart or systemd, but i dont know how to install a systemd service
[18:00] <balazs> sorry for another noob question, but is there a minimum memory that a graphics card must have to support 1920x1080 dual monitors ? A 1000MB one should be more than enough, right ?
[18:00] <holstein> DzAirmaX: i would ask the creators if they have any specific setup for ubuntu. or even debian
[18:00] <balazs> something like: http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-1024MB-Graphics-01G-P3-2616-KR/dp/B0083YIGVU
[18:00] <holstein> balazs: in my experience, its more about how the device and its drivers support linux..
[18:01] <daftykins> balazs: that'll be fine, just do a quick search for your ubuntu version and a given card to see if there aren't too many scare stories. i'm sure a GT 610 will be plenty.
[18:01] <daftykins> balazs: we're typically talking needing <64MB RAM for two 1920x1080 screens ;)
[18:02] <balazs> daftykins: right, I calculated 12megs assuming 3 bytes per pixel
[18:02] <balazs> for one frame...
[18:03] <bynarie> heres my real question : how do i properly get nvidia drivers to work after kernel update? ive read quite a few online tutorials and most of them dont work in my situation.. (http://askubuntu.com/questions/492217/nvidia-driver-reset-after-each-kernel-update)
[18:03] <bynarie> and ive read this one (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual#Kernel_and_Mesa_Updates)
[18:04] <DJones> bynarie: Are you using the ubuntu supplied nvidia drivers or have you manually installed them? With the official repo releases, I've not had an issue even with intel/nvidia graphics
[18:05] <bynarie> im using the ones in the "additional drivers" .. the nvidia binary driver prop tested 331.89
[18:05] <bynarie> DJones,
[18:07] <DJones> bynarie: That sounds odd, what issues do you get and have you reported it as a bug
[18:08] <bynarie> DJones, ok so i basically upgrade kernel... i get a bunch of errors about a bad return status... i reboot and when i goto nvidia-settings all of the options arent their or its stuck in intel mode
[18:08] <bynarie> no i havent filed a bug
[18:09] <bynarie> DJones, because i assume I was doing something wrong
[18:09] <DJones> bynarie: Seems off for a 14.10 install
[18:09] <DJones> s/off/odd/
[18:10] <bynarie> well, when i do a fresh 14.10 install i cant get my card to work at all.. i had to install 14.04.1 and upgrade to 14.10 to get it working
[18:10] <DJones> bynarie: I think it would be worth you filing a bug about this
[18:10] <bynarie> the only way i can get 14.10 to boot is if i set the "nomodeset" flag.. but then the card doesnt run and i cant install drivers
[18:10] <bynarie> ok
[18:11] <bynarie> DJones, on launchpad or where? ive never filed bug
[18:11] <DJones> I'm using 14.10 with  dual nvidia/intel cards and I haven't had any issues
[18:11] <OerHeks> bynarie, can you disable intel in your bios?
[18:11] <bynarie> no
[18:11] <bynarie> OerHeks, not an option in bios
[18:13] <daftykins> bynarie: out of interest, "uname -r" ?
[18:13] <bynarie> 3.16.0-25 generic
[18:14] <bynarie> the kernel im trying to install is 3.18
[18:15] <daftykins> bynarie: i had a feeling you were talking about unsupported kernels.
[18:15] <bynarie> oh i didnt know it was unspported
[18:15] <bynarie> 3.18 is unsupported for nvidia?
[18:16] <OerHeks> bynarie, 3.18 is only available for vivid 15.04 http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[18:16] <daftykins> bynarie: basically, i'm not surprised you're getting issues when trying to put anything other than a given ubuntu releases official kernel on
[18:16] <DJones> bynarie: The latest kernel provided by Ubuntu is 3.16.0-25
[18:17] <daftykins> bynarie: so the question is, why are you updating the kernel unofficially?
[18:17] <bynarie> ah.. yea i seen where it said vivid but i guess i didnt know that it was specifically for vivid
[18:17] <bynarie> daftykins, speed... my system boots twice as fast with 3.18 than with 3.16
[18:17] <bynarie> dunno why but it does
[18:17] <DJones> bynarie: Thats the problem, don't go any further, its not supported
[18:17] <daftykins> bynarie: alright well if you choose to keep with that, you can't be supported here.
[18:17] <xcyclist> Say, I was trying to find examples for specifying options with the mount command from GNU.
[18:18] <daftykins> xcyclist: can you format that as a question? what are you trying to do?
[18:18] <bynarie> daftykins, no its already uninstalled.. im back on 3.16
[18:18] <xcyclist> Some places you see options wrapped in parentheses, but from what I gather, that is never used with the actual mount command.
[18:18] <bynarie> thanks for the advice DJones and daftykins
[18:19] <xcyclist> So, I would still really like to see more examples of mount command options usages.  Anyone have a lit?
[18:19] <sotrdofthsstarwa> If I'm using an SSD, are there any special things I need to do in order to cnfigure it?
[18:19] <xcyclist> list?
[18:19] <DJones> bynarie: If you really want to test it, you should consider joining #ubuntu+1 (which is the support channel for vivid)  but be aware it'll probably break before release
[18:19] <xcyclist> From what I can gather, you can/should never use parentheses like -o (op1,op2,op3)
[18:19] <daftykins> xcyclist: err, i would rather you actually had an example *situation* of something you're trying to do.
[18:19] <bubbasaures> sotrdofthsstarwa, Ubuntu has built in trim, but you could look at that.
[18:20] <bubbasaures> at least in 14.04 and 14.10
[18:20] <daftykins> xcyclist: i've used -o for CIFS mounts when wanting to specify iocharset=utf8 and credentials=/root/.smbpass
[18:20] <sotrdofthsstarwa> bubbasaures, are you saying TRIM is automatically configured on 14.10?
[18:20] <xcyclist> Okay:  mount nfsnetworksource /mnt/mynode -o clientaddr=192.168.3.4,vers=4,readonly
[18:21] <bubbasaures> sotrdofthsstarwa, In a some form yes, I'm not exactly sure the form, I have SSD's as well.
[18:21] <xcyclist> But really any options will do.
[18:21] <daftykins> xcyclist: that looks pretty self explanatory to me, otherwise i'm sure the man page for 'mount' would show more.
[18:21] <sotrdofthsstarwa> bubbasaures, alright, thank you
[18:22] <xcyclist> The main thing is you don't ever do -o (clientaddr=192.168.3.4,vers=4,readonly)
[18:22] <xcyclist> Or is that in fact also acceptable?
[18:22] <daftykins> xcyclist: why don't you just try it?
[18:23] <xcyclist> Because I don't want to just get away with something.  I want do to things that are supported, and considered good.
[18:23] <daftykins> xcyclist: sooo read the docs :)
[18:23] <xcyclist> I did.  However, I see the paren stuff around in fstab files, so I was wondering.
[18:26] <bubbasaures> xcyclist, gnu is a belief not really associated with commands, it seems you're trying to be gnu all the way.
[18:27] <Xarlo> GNU is a religion.
[18:27] <bubbasaures> trinity stallman torvald and shuttleworth here
[18:28] <daftykins> balazs: by the way, when i'm putting systems together i try to select 'passive' graphics cards (which just use a large heatsink and no fan) - as if your case has adequate air flow, you'll prevent yourself from maintenance somewhere down the line with having to deal with a failed fan
[18:28] <Chuck_Norris> amen
[18:28] <xcyclist> Well, perhaps there is some use with conceiving what standards should be, even if they are poorly elaborated.
[18:29] <daftykins> i prefer results over getting bogged down in the details, over the years things change anyway so you can't rely on being 100% correct for long
[18:32] <bubbasaures> yeah, computer hard ware and software we're just guessing
[18:32] <acovrig> I'm trying to connect to a WPA2-enterprise network (whichever kind uses a username/pass without a cert).  I have a wpa_supplicant.conf to the effect of (https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/howto-wireless-wpa2-enterprise-connection.39557/); when I run wpa_supplicant I just get "wlan0: CTRL-EVENT-SCAN-STARTED" and I can't connect.
[18:33] <DF3D2> Hi im having a hard time using DTS/dolby digital passthrough with a 750TI. I believe the TI supports this
[18:33] <DF3D2> http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2796/~/which-hdmi-audio-formats-do-nvidia-gpus-support%3F
[18:33] <DF3D2> seems to show 750TI supporting this setup
[18:33] <daftykins> acovrig: well, there's a slight quirk in using a FreeBSD guide with ubuntu of course
[18:34] <daftykins> DF3D2: what's your source media you're trying to play DTS from? and what are you plugging into expecting to play this?
[18:34] <acovrig> daftykins, I've used wpa_supplicant before in ubuntu and didn't remember the paramters for the conf file, it should be the same though, it's not like I'm trying to run BSD software on a deb system.
[18:35] <DF3D2> daftykins, source media is a video file w/ DTS true-HD audio stream (same file shows DTS on the reciever when played on windows via 290x) My reviever is a DENON AVR-S700W and I'm using HDMI from the 750TI
[18:35] <daftykins> acovrig: indeed, maybe the parameters you've chosen are wrong for the network. why don't you contact whoever runs the infrastructure? perhaps an IT department if it's an educational establishment or some such?
[18:35] <DF3D2> pavucontrol shows 5.1 options for the 750ti but they say (Unplugged) not sure why
[18:35] <daftykins> DF3D2: what's your player?
[18:36] <DF3D2> XBMC and it has pass through enabled
[18:36] <balazs> daftykins: next time. already pulled the trigger...
[18:36] <DF3D2> i've also checked "DTS" in the pavucontrol control panel
[18:36] <daftykins> DF3D2: ok, well come and ask in #kodi then. this is likely irrelevant here.
[18:36] <daftykins> balazs: oops :) sorry i wasn't quicker
[18:36] <pa> it looks like bash_completion broke on my system for apt-get install <tab>. what can it be?
[18:36] <daftykins> DF3D2: expecting to see audio formats in the OS beneath kodi, is your mistake
[18:36] <DF3D2> daftykins, well im not sure it is irrelevant here
[18:36] <daftykins> DF3D2: it is.
[18:37] <acovrig> daftykins, it is, but the IT dept can't figure out how to connect via wpa_supplicant themselves (they're using a pi).  I've done it before so I know it's possible on the network, just not sure how.  I have a windows and mac machine that can connect, any ideas on extracting parameters for wpa_supplicant from one of those?
[18:37] <DF3D2> daftykins, not sure what this means <daftykins> DF3D2: expecting to see audio formats in the OS beneath kodi, is your mistake
[18:37] <daftykins> DF3D2: yeah, further convo in #kodi please
[18:38] <DF3D2> daftykins, it may very well be a pulseaudio/ubuntu setup issue
[18:38] <DF3D2> but okay...
[18:38] <daftykins> no, because bitstreaming has nothing to do with that
[18:38] <irgendwer4711> hi, does Thunar report its events to zeitgeist?
[18:38] <DF3D2> Well pulseaudio is what passes the stream I would think?
[18:42] <Chuck_Norris> DF3D2: alsamixer
[18:44] <DF3D2> Chuck_Norris, I checked alsamixer
[18:44] <DF3D2> all it has for 750ti is 4 SPDIF settings, all enabled
[18:45] <Chuck_Norris> DF3D2: it's doesn't have "Stereo Upmix"?
[18:45] <daftykins> sorry guys but you're chasing down the wrong rabbit hole here
[18:46] <DF3D2> http://imgur.com/Ou6V3MR
[18:46] <daftykins> wrong channel
[18:47] <Chuck_Norris> DF3D2: no no, open a terminal en write: alsamixer   then press <enter>
[18:48] <daftykins> Chuck_Norris: this is not an ubuntu query.
[18:48] <pedro__> d
[18:48] <pedro__> d
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[18:48] <Xarlo> d
[18:48] <Xarlo> d
[18:48] <Xarlo> d
[18:48] <Xarlo> d
[18:48] <Xarlo> d
[18:48] <Xarlo> d
[18:48] <unopaste> Xarlo you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[18:48] <Chuck_Norris> daftykins: are you a moderator?
[18:49] <daftykins> Chuck_Norris: is that relevant to knowing an issue is to do with the player software and not the OS? :)
[18:50] <Chuck_Norris> if am admin write Chuck_Norris stop trying to help him then i'll stop, but, AFAIC he is using ubuntu and it could be related to some miss set up in Alsa, or it could not, but... i least i am trying to help -.-
[18:51] <Chuck_Norris> if an*
[18:51] <daftykins> Chuck_Norris: i understand that but i'm trying to help you from wasting your time since this is a #kodi issue and we are now in that channel speaking about it :)
[18:51] <Chuck_Norris> ok ok
[18:51] <daftykins> Chuck_Norris: do you know of XBMC/Kodi? if not, it's best to leave it as it's not an OS thing
[18:52] <gargsms> My ~/Downloads folder contents just disappeared. The hard disk is filled to the same capacity but I cannot find the files anywhere.
[18:52] <EriC^^> gargsms: do you remember the name of a file?
[18:52] <pedro__> f
[18:52] <gargsms> http://askubuntu.com/questions/557670/downloads-folder-contents-disappeared
[18:52] <pedro__> ff
[18:53] <rogo> How can I launch and/or uninstall a converted tgz package?   http://roelaro21.twentyone.axc.nl/press/5.png
[18:53] <gargsms> EriC^^, all the files in Downloads folder vanished
[18:53] <Chuck_Norris> daftykins: i used XBMC, but, i wasn't going to help him setting up Kodi, i just wanted to know if in alsamixer he has "Stereo Upmix" as i do
[18:53] <holstein> gargsms: maybe, you asked something to clear it, like a browser
[18:53] <gargsms> No
[18:53] <DF3D2> Chuck_Norris, I also believe it could be related to pulseaudio or something but he seems sure it isn't....
[18:53] <DF3D2> who knows :\
[18:53] <EriC^^> gargsms: do you remember the name of a file?
[18:54] <epyx> is using Pidgin for Facebook safe?
[18:54] <EriC^^> ( or part of it )
[18:54] <gargsms> EriC^^, holstein Yes I do remember the names of all files and I used 'sudo find / -name "<filenames>"'
[18:54] <gargsms> It returned no results
[18:54] <holstein> gargsms: when things "vanish" from my hard drive, i immediatey shutdown, and backup with a live iso and start running tests.. though, i usually find they didnt actually vanish
[18:54] <holstein> gargsms: why are you using sudo? to find files in your users /home?
[18:55] <Chuck_Norris> DF3D2: yeah, who knows, at least there is #alsa #pulse #kodi, and all that, think xD
[18:55] <gargsms> I thought maybe they have gone to places, so I searched everywhere
[18:55] <EriC^^> gargsms: try it with -iname "*partofit*
[18:55] <gargsms> holstein, to my misfortune, I am using ecryptfs, so fsck does not help either
[18:56] <gargsms> EriC^^, find -iname 'filename' ?
[18:56] <EriC^^> gargsms: "*partofit*" , also check the history for mishaps
[18:56] <holstein> gargsms: and, thats only assuming a filesystem issue..
[18:56] <fjg> exit
[18:56] <EriC^^> gargsms: sudo find -iname "*filename*"
[18:57] <EriC^^> gargsms: sudo find / -iname "*filename*"
[18:58] <Chuck_Norris> DF3D2: http://i.imgur.com/lwg2D5w.png
[18:58] <DF3D2> Chuck_Norris, yes, I know how to use alsamixer
[18:58] <rogo> How can I uninstall a converted tgz package?    http://roelaro21.twentyone.axc.nl/press/5.png
[18:59] <DF3D2> the 750ti only has 4 spdif channels under alsamixer, and all are enabled
[18:59] <holstein> rogo: what was it "converted" to?
[18:59] <Chuck_Norris> DF3D2: ok ok. back to my things :P
[18:59] <rogo> @holstein: I converted it to a deb file.
[19:00] <Chuck_Norris> rogo: what is the name of that .tgz?
[19:00] <Gay-champion> § anyone can create me a yahoo account? §
[19:01] <holstein> Gay-champion: not here.. ask at yahoo..
[19:01] <rogo> @chuck_Norris: 5_144-2_all.tgz
[19:02] <Gay-champion> because I do not have the mobile phone
[19:02] <k1l> !ot | Gay-champion
[19:02] <Chuck_Norris> rogo: or better, the name of the .deb once converted
[19:02] <holstein> Gay-champion: sure.. ask yahoo for support.. https://help.yahoo.com/kb/support-free-charge-yahoo-sln6349.html
[19:02] <rogo> @Chuck_Norris: 5_144-2_all.deb
[19:02] <Chuck_Norris> rogo: try: sudo dpkg -r 5
[19:03] <holstein> rogo: if i wanted a gui, i would search in synaptic.. otherwise, you should be able to use the commandline... did you install the .deb? if so, how?
[19:03] <gargsms> EriC^^, all it shows are the dc++ filelist cache that I have shared
[19:03] <rogo> I installed the .deb with Ubuntu Software Center
[19:04] <EriC^^> gargsms: check the history maybe
[19:04] <Chuck_Norris> rogo: or: sudo dpkg -r 5_144
[19:04] <holstein> rogo: there is a gui for gdebi as well..
[19:04] <EriC^^> ( type history in the terminal )
[19:05] <gargsms> EriC^^, in case I accidentally deleted all the contents, the hard disk space usage should have gone low, but it stays the same.
[19:05] <gargsms> How to check history?
[19:05] <EriC^^> gargsms: type history
[19:05] <holstein> gargsms: you can type "history" in the terminal
[19:05] <Chuck_Norris> Granis: press Ctrl+R
[19:06] <Chuck_Norris> gargsms: press Ctrl+R
[19:06] <rogo> thanks all: that command made it disappear:  (Reading database ... 629694 files and directories currently installed.) Removing 5 (144-2) ...
[19:06] <rogo> :-)
[19:07]  * Chuck_Norris thinks the command history is better than Ctrl+R -.-
[19:07] <EriC^^> gargsms: have you used a root shell recently?
[19:07] <Chuck_Norris> rogo: np
[19:07] <holstein> gargsms was using root to search for the files..
[19:07] <gargsms> Not before they disappeared.
[19:07] <joel__> I'm trying to like Ubuntu. Seems to have LOADS of problems
[19:07] <EriC^^> ok, nevermind then
[19:07] <gargsms> holstein, sudo is not root IMO :p
[19:08] <holstein> !ask | joel__
[19:08] <holstein> gargsms: cool.. i think its best to not assume, and test from the beginning. have you tested the hardware?
[19:08] <joel__> I'm trying to add a VPN configuation with no success
[19:08] <holstein> !vpn
[19:09] <holstein> joel__: feel fre and share errors.. i have used ubuntu as the VPN server and client in the past.. many volunteers will be glad to assist.. use #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-discuss for discussion vs support.. thanks!
[19:09] <Gay-champion> anyone here is a programmer unity 3d?
[19:10] <Tobias[L]> joel__: if you use openvpn try it with the commandline : 'openvpn --config /path/to/configfile
[19:10] <holstein> Gay-champion: this is just, as stated before, and in the topic, the ubuntu support channel.. http://unity3d.com/ is where i would go for unity3d questions
[19:11] <gargsms> EriC^^, holstein as per my history, I used webhttrack before I lost everything. I remember a power failure caused my PC to turn off that night.
[19:11] <joel__> I right click on the wifi icon, select VPN Connections, Configure VPN and nothing happens
[19:11] <holstein> gargsms: you lost "everything"? or just ~/Downloads?
[19:11] <gargsms> Then I panicked, so I chmod'ed all the Download/* to 777
[19:11] <holstein> gargsms: a poweroff like that can cause data loss..
[19:11] <gargsms> holstein, just Downloads
[19:11] <holstein> gargsms: so, you did *not* lose "everything". i would start by testing my hardware.. the ram and the hard drive.. if you had a power off force like that, you *can* lose things..
[19:12] <gargsms> One of my friends said he had similar issue earlier and could not recover anything
[19:12] <gargsms> holstein, where to start?
[19:12] <holstein> gargsms: you should have backups, as *all* hard drives *will* fail
[19:12] <gargsms> holstein, I did not. -_-
[19:12] <holstein> http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec is the tool i use to try and recover deleted or "lost" data
[19:13] <EriC^^> gargsms: it's probably best to do as holstein is saying and test the hardware first, as you could lose more data potentially, after that maybe use testdisk or other recovery methods, etc. to get the data back.
[19:13] <holstein> gargsms: sure. you can do that going forward, now.. power failures happen, and hard drives *all* fail
[19:13] <gargsms> Anyway, there wasn't too important data in there. I need a list of all files so that I can redownload them
[19:13] <holstein> gargsms: i use the memtest in a live iso, the one i installed ubuntu from.. and i use gsmartcontrol
[19:13] <holstein> gargsms: friend, *all* your data on that drive *will* get lost.. its just a matter of time
[19:13] <EriC^^> gargsms: testdisk can most likely get you that list,
[19:14] <holstein> gargsms: if you had something writing to the disk and the power was cut, you can break the hard drive.. if all i had was a lost ~/Download directory, i would be happy about that..
[19:15] <gargsms> I will try memtest.
[19:15] <holstein> gargsms: memtest *only* tests the memory, and doenst "fix" anything here
[19:16] <holstein> gargsms: you have nothing broken to fix.. if you had a power off, then, that was likely the entire cuase of your loss of data.. these test mentioned dont recover the data.. it just allows you to assure the hard drive is still ok, and not damaged
[19:16] <gargsms> I tried testdisk from another Ubuntu installation that I have. Turns out because I have been using ecryptfs, the data in ~ will not be seen at all.
[19:16] <holstein> gargsms: sure.. thats *another* issue you have to work around.. mounting your drive from a live environement. but, testdisk or photorec *can* be used there
[19:17] <holstein> gargsms: regardless of *any* of that, you need to have a backup of *any* data you want to keep..
[19:17] <gargsms> holstein, maybe you are correct, but my hard disk seems to be filled to the same capacity as before.
[19:17] <gargsms> I WILL KEEP A BACKUP, ALWAYS. :)
[19:17] <holstein> gargsms: no, friend. that is a fact.. its not a maybe. its a matter of time til *all* drives fail.. period
[19:17] <gargsms> holstein, does an external disk suffice for backup?
[19:18] <ubuntu100> does  anyone get this when starting firefox from the terminal
[19:18] <ubuntu100> GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed
[19:18] <holstein> gargsms: what will "suffice" is up to you.. if your house or where both drives are stored were to catch fire, then, you can lose *all* that data, and your backup
[19:19] <holstein> gargsms: http://lifehacker.com/5961216/why-you-should-have-more-than-one-backup for example.. but, its up to you what is important and how you want to deal with it..
[19:20] <Tobias[L]> Anyone familiar with battery saving? i have An lenovo ideapad y500 in max config (i7, 16g ram, sli 650m). i've gotten to 2:30 of battery life with as less usage as possible and a brand new battery. that still is far from ideal and yes since it is dual sli lenovo locked the optimus feature out, even a modded bios doesnt bring it back, aswell as both cards always powered (while one is switchable
[19:20] <gargsms> holstein, haha
[19:20] <Tobias[L]> it gives me only a few watts... so any idea appreciated
[19:20] <gargsms> All hard drives *will* eventually fail. Truth of life.
[19:21] <EriC^^> gargsms: life will eventually fail. truth of life.
[19:21] <gargsms> Turns out when I ran the Disk Space Analyzer, I found that all of my ~/Downloads got moved to .dc++ folder
[19:21] <gargsms> EriC^^, holstein ^
[19:21] <gargsms> That is freaking weird
[19:22]  * gargsms goes to buy a new life
[19:22] <Tobias[L]> gargsms: but in the heavy duty test SSD'd ran all over 750 TB of writing and the two best are currently at 2PByte
[19:23] <holstein> Tobias[L]: this is not related to your battery live question
[19:23] <holstein> life*
[19:23] <sam_> hi
[19:23] <ponyofdeath> hi, how can i prevent dnsmasq from overwriting resolv.conf i have port=0 in my dnsmasq.conf
[19:23] <sam_> majic
[19:23] <sam_> magic
[19:23] <Tobias[L]> holstein: i know but in reaction to gargsms
[19:24] <holstein> Tobias[L]: what i find is, trying different GPU drivers, and using specific laptop modes can have a little effect on the perfomance, but, in linux, you typically take a hit in battery life, since, the hardware manufacturer didnt address linux support for you
[19:24]  * gargsms goes to buy a new life *and*  an SSD
[19:24] <holstein> gargsms: *all* drives fail.. SSD's.. etc. buying an ssd doesnt mean you dont need a backup
[19:24] <Tobias[L]> holstein: that is the problem, the laptop runs a full hour longer than under windows
[19:25] <holstein> Tobias[L]: sure, and that is to be expected. the windows support was specifically addressed by the creator of the hardware
[19:25] <gargsms> holstein, for backup obviously. I *will* use cloud backup now. Is that fine?
[19:25] <holstein> Tobias[L]: i have an old netbook that went from 9+ hours in XP to 5 hours in linux.. but, i *want* linux on the hardware, so, i accepted the compromise
[19:25] <Tobias[L]> holstein: you read it wrong
[19:25] <EriC^^> gargsms: you still have the problem of your house catching on fire
[19:25] <holstein> gargsms: again, friend "fine" is up to you.. its your data
[19:26]  * EriC^^ suggests gargsms invest in fire extinguishers
[19:26] <gargsms> holstein, I understand that I am going to lose my data *eventually*
[19:26] <Tobias[L]> holstein: it runs 2:30 in linux and 1:30 in windows... idle
[19:26] <holstein> Tobias[L]: great!.. so whats the problem?
[19:26] <Tobias[L]> holstein: it should reach 5!
[19:26] <Tobias[L]> XD
[19:26] <holstein> Tobias[L]: you can ask "windows" for better driver support
[19:26]  * gargsms is thinking of going to Antarctica
[19:26] <hilbilly> He is too cheap to purchase a 9 cell battery for it.
[19:27] <holstein> Tobias[L]: batteries fail.. if its an older unit, i would be expecting that from it
[19:27] <Tobias[L]> im adressing that by evading this pc altogether for long battery dependency and get myself another 9 hour pc buuut it is a brand new battery and the pc should reach 4-5 hours on average usage
[19:27] <Tobias[L]> hilbilly: it is a 9 cell battery
[19:28] <hilbilly> oh
[19:28] <holstein> Tobias[L]: i would ask the manufacturer.. could be the battery is bad, and may be covered..
[19:30] <Tobias[L]> the other battery held up the same and that was also from manufacturer and i got the model checked already
[19:31] <holstein> Tobias[L]: so, you asked the manufacturer about the expected specs? or just the model #'s?
[19:32] <gargsms> EriC^^, holstein Should I file a bug with LinuxDC++?
[19:32] <Tobias[L]> holstein: i sent the model to them with bad battery life (got a cable fixed aswell) and it came back with "checked trough, cable repaired, not a single problem else*
[19:32] <holstein> gargsms: where did you get the package? a ppa?
[19:33] <gargsms> No, apt-get
[19:33] <holstein> !info linuxdcpp
[19:33] <Gay-champion> Who is a transexual gay here ?
[19:33] <holstein> Gay-champion: please stop that...
[19:33] <ubuntu100> your mom
[19:34] <holstein> !bug | gargsms
[19:34] <holstein> gargsms: though, its not a "Bug" if you had the power shutdown, and that cuased the issue
[19:34] <gargsms> That's why I asked. I cannot give any STRs
[19:35] <gargsms> Heck, even I am not very sure if that happened because of the power failure or something else.
[19:35] <gargsms> I found my data, somehow.
[19:35] <gargsms> holstein, and I will keep backup now. Promise.
[19:35] <holstein> gargsms: literally doenst make a difference to me.. its not my data ;)
[19:35] <EriC^^> gargsms: do you cross your heart and hope to die?
[19:36] <gargsms> EriC^^, I don't know. Maybe my house is getting burnt tonight
[19:37] <EriC^^> all this talk is making me ache for bbq or something
[19:37] <holstein> !ot
[19:42] <leo__> ahista
[19:44] <Uqbar> hi. ubuntu 14.04 i386. occasionally the "multimedia" keys and my custom shortcuts stop working. unity's standard keyboard shortcuts keep working. restarting the session "fixes" the problem. what should I kill/restart to restore the shortcuts functionality without restarting the whole session?
[19:44] <Uqbar> sorry, that's ubuntu 14.10.
[19:45] <kleo> hi
[19:45] <kleo> yellow
[19:45] <kleo> hello
[19:45] <kleo> holaj
[19:46] <kleo> bye
[19:46] <holstein> Uqbar: not sure.. have you looked for a bug about it? maybe there is a "fix" addressing that..
[19:46] <kleo> i am new her
[19:46] <kleo> her
[19:46] <kleo> here
[19:47] <holstein> kleo: just check the /topic, and use the #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat.. thanks!
[19:47] <k1l> kleo: please dont produce that much lines. if you got a ubuntu support issue just ask the question :)
[19:47] <kleo> hallo
[19:48] <Uqbar> holstein: what I've found STFW is only generic stuff about shortcuts never working or upgrades killing shortcuts: not my case.
[19:49] <andy114> Hello?
[19:49] <holstein> Uqbar: sure, i would think it would be specific to your hardware.. you can start a bug, and try and find someone with that hardware to confirm it
[19:49] <holstein> andy114: yes.. welcome.. we *all* see you .. please use the #ubuntu-offtopic for chat.. thanks
[19:51] <Uqbar> holstein: well if _could_ be hardware-specific, but my custom shortcuts only involve "normal" keys, so I think it would be unlikely.
[19:51] <Uqbar> s/if/it/
[19:51] <andy114> Okay, when I go to sign into the root login, I put my username in and when I go to put my password in, nothing types/comes up on screen. How can I fix this?
[19:52] <EriC^^> andy114: your root login?
[19:52] <bubbasaures> andy114, root login?
[19:52] <k1l> andy114: you dont login to root on ubuntu
[19:52] <EriC^^> andy114: you mean lightdm?
[19:52] <trijntje> andy114: just put in your password and press enter, thats how you use sudo
[19:53] <Uqbar> hmm this might be useful https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Hotkeys/Troubleshooting
[19:53] <k1l> andy114: or do you mean the terminal login on a tty?
[19:53] <naftilos76> Hi, i want to make an image file out of a directory and its' contents and later be able to restore the dir tree from the image file. Does anybody know of any app in linux that can do that other than compressing apps like zip, tar etc?
[19:53] <andy114> When it asks for Username and password on startup, when I type in the password nothing shows up
[19:54] <andy114> Just saying i'm new to Ubuntu... :p
[19:54] <k1l> andy114: on the login screen?
[19:55] <EriC^^> andy114: nothing shows up as in you type the password but you dont see any "*" ?
[19:55] <k1l> andy114: did it run before? what did you do before that didnt work anymore? does the guest-accoun work?
[19:57] <mikemiketorino> Hi .. someone can help on this link:    http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Server/Dlna/Serviio
[19:57] <mikemiketorino> for installation of Serviio?
[19:57] <andy114> This is a fresh install so this is first time boot, it says login: andy114 then under it Password: _ I cant type into the password field.
[19:57] <k1l> mikemiketorino: #ubuntu-it can
[19:57] <andy114> I could type the Username but not the password.
[19:58] <EriC^^> andy114: the password should already be there
[19:58] <k1l> andy114: you can type the password. its just not shown due to security
[19:58] <mikemiketorino> nobody there ... let's search english one .. sorry
[19:58] <EriC^^> *username
[19:58] <andy114> Nonon theres no "*" or anything, nothing shows up in the field, no characters at all.
[19:59] <trijntje> andy114: what does the screen look like when you try to put in your password?
[19:59] <EriC^^> andy114: try the accessibility icon on the top right corner
[19:59] <EriC^^> andy114: login through it and see if the keyboard needs to be set or something
[19:59] <andy114> Its a black screen which has Ubuntu 14.10 in the top left corner
[20:00] <trijntje> any color?
[20:00] <andy114> Nope
[20:00] <trijntje> so its a terminal login, so probably something went wrong with the installation
[20:00] <k1l> andy114: so its a server install?
[20:00] <andy114> Yeah
[20:00] <k1l> so, server install?
[20:01] <trijntje> andy114: try to mention stuf like that ;)
[20:01] <andy114> Yep lol
[20:01] <trijntje> so, for the server login you dont see your password
[20:01] <k1l> is it a remote login or are you sitting in front?
[20:01] <trijntje> just type it in and hit enter, and you're good to go
[20:02] <andy114> When I type on my keyboard nothing comes up, but I can still type my username in.
[20:02] <EriC^^> andy114: that's normal
[20:02] <andy114> Sitting infront
[20:02] <EriC^^> it's so that nobody can tell how long the password is
[20:02] <k1l> andy114: the password is not shown!!!
[20:03] <k1l> andy114: it doesnt show ****** it is just blank. just type your password blind and hit enter
[20:03] <andy114> I just did, still says Login incorrect.
[20:03] <Bashing-om> andy114: Not shown is a security measure.
[20:03] <k1l> andy114: so its working but you use the wrong username or password
[20:03] <andy114> Theres nothing, just a blinking "_"
[20:03] <EriC^^> andy114: does your user contain any uppercase characters?
[20:04] <k1l> andy114: what? you said you see the login? now its just "_" ?
[20:04] <andy114> No it dosent
[20:04] <k1l> andy114: please get your facts right. you are telling a different story every time now.
[20:05] <EriC^^> andy114: boot into the recovery mode and reset your password with passwd <username>
[20:05] <Bashing-om> andy114: " just a blinking "_" " maybe something other is awaiting input. What results with key combo ctl+c to terminate and return to prompt ?
[20:06] <anonymous_prism_> funny
[20:06] <andy114> Okay okay, I boot my laptop up, it loads onto a black screen, it tells me to type my login I type it then hit enter, it then says Password, I cant type anything theres just a blinking _
[20:06] <k1l> andy114: it is a server install?on a laptop?
[20:07] <anonymous_prism_> okey try reinstall your windows os systeem have an nice day
[20:07] <luc4> Anyone who knows how to add a new xsession to lightdm? I added the .desktop file in /usr/share/xsessions but I have no new item…
[20:07] <Uqbar> andy114: that's NORMAL. type the password and then return, and you should login.
[20:07] <anonymous_prism_> reinstal your os systeem and your all fine
[20:08] <andy114> The problem is is that when I type NOTHING shows up in the Password area!
[20:09] <Uqbar> andy114: you might check that the keyboard be set up correctly, by typing non-alphabetic characters at the login prompt (if you have non-alpha characters in the password, which might be interpreted incorrectly in case of setup issues)
[20:09] <Bashing-om> andy114: Zar 10; that is normal, security reasons .
[20:09] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: i think we're being trolled here
[20:09] <Uqbar> andy114: NOTHING must appear when you type the password, it's the normal, intended behaviour.
[20:09] <anonymous_projec> warring kicking anoymous will cost your pc i will strike you down and you all just stupid fools have an nice day
[20:09] <OerHeks> that should be oke, no output
[20:10] <bubbasaures> lol
[20:10] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: Yeah, let no good deed go unpunished .
[20:11] <andy114> Okay so if its intended behaviour then why dosent it sign in???
[20:11] <Uqbar> because you're typing the wrong password.
[20:11] <Uqbar> or your keyboard isn't set up correctly, see what I said a few lines ago.
[20:12] <eka> hi... after editing /etc/exports do I need to restart the NFS service?
[20:12] <andy114> Okay then, if my keyboard isnt setup correctly, how do I do it?
[20:13] <Uqbar> first you have to check whether it is set up correctly or not. to do that, type something into the login prompt to see.
[20:13] <Bashing-om> andy114: I once did a clean install, and caps lock was engaged - unnoticed, Like to have never figuered out that my password was uppercase rather then the intended lower case. I did change the password back to lower case.
[20:13] <andy114> OKay I have typed my Username in, now what?
[20:14] <Uqbar> now delete it and type some non-alpha characters, like / - ?, to see if they match your keyboard.
[20:14] <bubbasaures> err see if the password shows
[20:14] <EriC^^> andy114: type your password as a login to see if all the chars come up
[20:15] <Uqbar> or just type it here for us to check ;-) . (hunter2 in 3... 2... 1...)
[20:16] <andy114> Okay done that it works
[20:16] <EriC^^> andy114: try Bashing-om 's suggestion, if it doesn't work boot into the recovery mode and change your password.
[20:16] <andy114> Everything works
[20:16] <Uqbar> andy114: then you're simply entering the password wrong.
[20:17] <Uqbar> andy114: ah sorry, I didn't see you said it works.
[20:17] <andy114> Jesus christ how many times do I have to say, when I press a key it dosent show up in the field theres no * or anything it stays as a blinking _
[20:17] <andy114> Oh lol :p
[20:18] <Uqbar> andy114: it. is. NORMAL.
[20:18] <Uqbar> did you manage to log in or not?
[20:18] <k1l> andy114: and how often do we have to say that there is _no sign_ in the password field when you type
[20:18] <andy114> If its NORMAL then why does it keep saying "Login incorrect"?????
[20:19] <Uqbar> 21:11 < Uqbar> because you're typing the wrong password.
[20:19] <k1l> andy114: because it is incorrect
[20:19] <k1l> andy114: you need to change from "the login doesnt work because i dont see *****" to "login doesnt work because i use wrong username or wrong password"
[20:20]  * EriC^^ wonders how would one safely reboot in such a situation
[20:20] <Pici> reisub
[20:20] <EriC^^> alt+prntscrn reisub ?
[20:20] <EriC^^> maybe reisssub
[20:20] <EriC^^> hehe :D
[20:21] <Uqbar> is ctrl-alt-delete disabled on the console?
[20:22] <k1l> Uqbar: its disabled at all on ubuntu
[20:24] <Uqbar> k1l: it doesn't seem disabled at all, at least in the console. I've just rebooted my laptop with ctrl-alt-delete at the console, and I haven't configured anything special to do it.
[20:24] <Uqbar> under X, yes, it's disabled.
[20:25] <Bala> hey
[20:25] <k1l> well, i thought dontzap was everywhere
[20:25] <EriC^^> Uqbar: to answer your question, no it's not disabled.
[20:25] <Uqbar> dontzap is X specific
[20:25] <EriC^^> :D
[20:25] <Bala> can someone explain to me what is the best start for someone who wants to learn different programming language ?
[20:26] <Uqbar> EriC^^: as I wrote, I just verified myself :)
[20:26] <rberg_> in the console its controlled by /etc/init/control-alt-delete.conf
[20:27] <EriC^^> Uqbar: same here :)
[20:27] <zumba_addict> what's going to happen if you clear up arp every 10 mins?
[20:27] <EriC^^> we're like dumb and dumber tree
[20:27] <andy114> http://youtu.be/Wh9rguYkp4g
[20:27] <andy114> Look at that
[20:27] <ikonia> why ?
[20:27] <andy114> This is my problem
[20:27] <Uqbar> zumba_addict: nothing much. you'll see some more ARP traffic to re-populate the ARP table.
[20:28] <k1l> andy114: video is private
[20:28] <zumba_addict> will it slow down the connections?
[20:28] <zumba_addict> what about existing connections? will it be broken?
[20:28] <Uqbar> nothing will be broken, you won't notice any slowdown.
[20:28] <zumba_addict> k
[20:28] <andy114> Try now?
[20:29] <k1l> andy114: ok video works
[20:29] <Uqbar> andy114: youtube says the video is private
[20:29] <k1l> andy114: so your password is 2000000 times w?
[20:29] <mikemiketorino> Hi .. I am following this link: http://wiki.serviio.org/doku.php?id=howto:linux:install:ubuntu
[20:29] <andy114> No its just an example
[20:29] <k1l> andy114: use your real password.
[20:29] <andy114> To show that nothing shows up!
[20:29] <mikemiketorino> someone can help me? I have done all .. Serviio is running but I can't open the console
[20:30] <zumba_addict> this is what amazon is suggesting to clear it up from cache - ip neigh | awk '{print $1}' | xargs -IX arp -v -i eth0 -d X
[20:30] <k1l> andy114: and there will be no * or _ or letters in the "password" line.
[20:30] <Pici> andy114: nothing is supposed to show up.
[20:30] <ikonia> andy114: this is getting tedious now
[20:30] <ikonia> andy114: there is no vissable signs in the password field
[20:30] <ikonia> accept that
[20:30] <Uqbar> andy114: ah sorry, maybe noboty told you that NOTHING should show up in the password field?
[20:30] <k1l> andy114: the problem you show in the video is not a problem at all. it is so nobody can show the number of letters of your password.
[20:30] <andy114> Okay is NOTHING shows up then WHY CANT I SIGN IN?
[20:30] <EriC^^> this is getting hilarious
[20:30] <ikonia> andy114: your password is wrong
[20:30] <ikonia> or your username is wrong
[20:30] <k1l> andy114: because your password is wrong
[20:31] <andy114> It isnt ffs
[20:31] <ikonia> andy114: can you login to the gui ?
[20:31] <k1l> andy114: wrong like in typo.
[20:31] <EriC^^> i cant believe you made a youtube video of that
[20:31] <rberg_> or you set false as your shell ?
[20:31] <andy114> Ive reinstalled twice now using the same username and fricken password
[20:31] <k1l> or in wrong keyboard layout. like german keyboard got qwertz and not qwery in first row
[20:31] <ikonia> andy114: can you login to the gui
[20:31] <EriC^^> andy114: did you create a /etc/nologin file?
[20:31] <EriC^^> andy114: touch /etc/nologin ? or messed with chsh ?
[20:32] <ikonia> he can't login....how would he create those
[20:32] <andy114> This is a First time boot!
[20:32] <EriC^^> i dont know what makes sense anymore
[20:32] <k1l> andy114: reboot to recovery and reset the password
[20:32] <andy114> How?
[20:32] <andy114> lol
[20:32] <ikonia> andy114: reinstall and set the password to 123456
[20:32] <EriC^^> andy114: please try writing your password with the CAPS lock on as Bashing-om suggested
[20:32] <ikonia> something that is not dependent on a keyboard mapping
[20:33] <EriC^^> andy114: if it doesn't work boot into the recovery mode and set your password
[20:33] <Uqbar> andy114: to reboot, hit ctrl-alt-delete
[20:34] <EriC^^> andy114: hold shift while the pc boots, advanced > recovery > enable networking > drop to root shell > type passwd your_username
[20:34] <andy114> Okay
[20:35] <EriC^^> andy114: does your password contain any special characters?
[20:35] <andy114> No
[20:35] <EriC^^> i'm just curious cause you said you reinstalled twice using the same password
[20:43] <zumba_addict> is there a tool to verify that the arp address is the right one for that ip address/machine?
[20:44] <techsuperfreak> zumba_addict: have you tried arpwatch or just a manual comparrison of MAC to IP?
[20:45] <Uqbar> zumba_addict: on _one_ machine, no. it will tell you the MAC address it *thinks* matches the IP address. if for some reason (bug, ARP poisoning), then the machine might be insufficient in establishing it.
[20:45] <ankk> fatal error: tk.h: No such file or directory
[20:45] <Uqbar> *if for some reason (bug, ARP poisoning) it has the wrong MAC address,
[20:45] <ankk> what can i do about this error?
[20:46] <blno> -
[20:46] <blno> oops
[20:50] <zumba_addict> Thanks Uqbar. What are other solutions?
[20:51] <zumba_addict> thank you techsuperfreak. How does arpwatch work? Is it running on a separate machine?
[20:51] <mike> hello
[20:51] <Guest87495> LONG LIVE PIRATE BAY!
[20:52] <zumba_addict> i heard it got shut down
[20:52] <daftykins> !ot
[20:52] <Guest87495> It's back up
[20:52] <daftykins> Guest87495 zumba_addict - no thank you.
[20:52] <zumba_addict> yup, daftykins is right
[20:52] <zumba_addict> it's off topic
[20:52] <Guest87495> http://thepiratebay.ee/
[20:53] <techsuperfreak> zumba_addict: Check this out - http://bit.ly/1wegAgJ
[20:53] <zumba_addict> k
[20:53] <Guest87495> sorrry bout that
[20:53] <azi`> I have a shell to an ubuntu server
[20:53] <axelddd> hello
[20:54] <azi`> i've noticed that I can go to /home/ cd into other's users directories
[20:54] <axelddd> does ubuntu have transmission embedded?
[20:54] <azi`> and even open some files there
[20:54] <zumba_addict> techsuperfreak: so if arpwatch saw a change in mac address, can it tell other machines on the network about that change?
[20:54] <azi`> isnt this a bit weird?
[20:55] <daftykins> azi`: this would be something to discuss with who provides you with this shell, not us
[20:55] <techsuperfreak> zumba_addict: no, the only reason a arp mapping changes is due to arp poisoning or something else foul
[20:55] <zumba_addict> k
[20:55] <zumba_addict> it's because it happens in AWS too
[20:56] <rberg_> azi`: no thats not really weird, you can set the file permissions to prevent over users from reading your files.
[20:57] <rberg_> ie: I think your private ssh key is set to 600 to prevent that.
[20:57] <techsuperfreak> zumba_addict: AWS?
[20:58] <zumba_addict> amazon web services
[20:58] <zumba_addict> techsuperfreak:  http://engineering.clever.com/2014/12/10/when-your-ip-traffic-in-aws-disappears-into-a-black-hole/
[20:58] <zumba_addict> is arpwatch really fast to know a change?
[20:59] <techsuperfreak> zumba_addict:  That would be a whole different ball of wax...clusters, cahcing, HA
[20:59] <zumba_addict> can we tell arpwatch to log to a specific file?
[21:00] <zumba_addict> i remember using a perl script before that watches a logfile then executes a command
[21:00] <zumba_addict> couldn't recall it anymore since that was around 1996
[21:00] <techsuperfreak> zumba_addict: Yes, you can have it speciies a savefile.  You can also have arpwatch email changes it catches
[21:01] <cpined> I have ubuntu 14.04 gnome and the applications don't show up in the title bar.  I need to see them to control activity.  The show up when I use gnome-fallback-session.
[21:01] <zumba_addict> techsuperfreak: not just email, I want it to ssh to different boxes to execute arp -d ip address
[21:01] <zumba_addict> i know it's bad since what if the arp is the attacker :)
[21:02] <zumba_addict> do you agree with me that I don't agree somewhat with the link I posted since what if arp was being poisoned
[21:02] <techsuperfreak> If you are worried about arp poisoning you should look at something a bit better
[21:02] <zumba_addict> that article clears the cache
[21:03] <Pessimist> Is there something like for ubuntu that I can install the system from a command line? I have luks on lvm on one partition and inside wubi when I choose everything it fails to install
[21:03] <Pessimist> Like mount everything somewhere, install base packages, chroot, install bootloader, ...
[21:03] <daftykins> WUBI is the devil.
[21:03] <zumba_addict> do you know if arpwatch is fast to notice changes?
[21:03] <daftykins> Pessimist: are you saying you're trying to use WUBI to install ubuntu... inside ubuntu?
[21:03] <Pessimist> Or wait, I don't have Wubi in mind. I meant the Ubuntu installer... I thought it's called wubi
[21:04] <techsuperfreak> zumba_addict: Should be
[21:04] <ikonia> as fast as arp changes
[21:04] <zumba_addict> k
[21:04] <Pessimist> daftykins, no ^, I thought wubi is how the ubuntu is called
[21:04] <daftykins> Pessimist: no, that's the windows ubuntu installer (which should be fired out of a cannon into the sun)
[21:04] <techsuperfreak> zumba_addict: If you are worried about intrustion detection, check out Snort
[21:04] <zumba_addict> ikonia: i was thinking how an interface like eth0 is caching arp entries and not clearing it
[21:04] <rberg_> Pessimist: you can do that with debootstrap
[21:04] <zumba_addict> techsuperfreak: i'm familiar with snort
[21:04] <ikonia> zumba_addict: it will cache them, but it will change as arp changes
[21:04] <ikonia> zumba_addict: thats what arp cache is
[21:05] <zumba_addict> ikonia: did you see the article I posted above? http://engineering.clever.com/2014/12/10/when-your-ip-traffic-in-aws-disappears-into-a-black-hole/
[21:05] <ikonia> zumba_addict: no
[21:05] <zumba_addict> the engineer was sharing they couldn't connect until they found the culprit, cached arp
[21:06] <zumba_addict> sharing/saying (on that article)
[21:06] <ikonia> zumba_addict: arp cache is a common issue in that respect, but it depends how your network is setup
[21:06] <zumba_addict> k
[21:07] <zumba_addict> that is AWS which we are also using
[21:07] <zumba_addict> though we havent't encountered that issue yet
[21:08] <Tom84> Anyone have a good IRC bot API for C++?
[21:08] <ikonia> not an ubuntu issue
[21:08] <Tom84> oh sorry
[21:09] <daftykins> Tom84: you PM'd me the other day with some abuse or something, please make sure you don't do it again.
[21:09] <techsuperfreak> zumba_addict:  Have you looked at the cron script that was in the article, it appears to be an easy fix
[21:09] <zumba_addict> techsuperfreak: yup, I saw it. It's really easy though it's dependent on time
[21:10] <cpined> any idea why gnome does not display running applications in the menu bar but when I switch to gnome-session-fallback it does?
[21:10] <zumba_addict> that's why I was trying to check if arpwatch is fast, then the logwatcher script I mentioned, then it will ssh to each unix boxes and run arp -d ipaddress
[21:10] <techsuperfreak> zumba_addict: I'm not sure if that will be any quicker than just clearing the stale entries every few mins
[21:11] <zumba_addict> k
[21:11] <zumba_addict> arpwatch could be realtime vs cron is every minute
[21:11] <daftykins> you're never going to have a MAC change in less than a minute :P
[21:11] <zumba_addict> i don't remember being able to configure cron to do every second
[21:11] <zumba_addict> :)
[21:12] <daftykins> zumba_addict: i think if you have an issue with that posts solution, you should pay for some AWS support and talk with their techs about your ideas.
[21:12] <zumba_addict> daftykins: that's not ours. We just found it
[21:12] <daftykins> zumba_addict: i know
[21:12] <zumba_addict> oh, I didn't see the word "if" :)
[21:12] <daftykins> ;)
[21:18] <mikemiketorino> Hi. I installed serviio .. and I made serviio.conf as :  o driver per il wi fa del mac?
 krabador: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9467243/  ... but service will not start. Some one can help me?
[21:19] <ikonia> martinklepsch: what's the actual problem
[21:20] <soman> I installed (offline) some packages (about 30) with dpkg -i and they won't be installed due to dependencies. Now when I do apt-get install -f it wanrs me about deleting about 1k packages including libreoffice and much ore apps. How can I fix the situation?
[21:23] <goa-gil> pmfji
[21:23] <goa-gil> but ubuntu upstart and init scripts are not good quality
[21:25] <EriC^^> soman: which packages did you install?
[21:27] <andy114> Okay Im back :p I reinstalled Ubuntu, yet I still cant type the password :p
[21:27] <k1l_> andy114: stop
[21:28] <k1l_> andy114: are you aware that there will never ever ever ever any sign when you type a password on there?
[21:28] <goa-gil> please type your pass
[21:28] <andy114> Yes but, why will it not let me sign in?
[21:28] <k1l_> goa-gil: go somewhere else to troll
[21:28] <goa-gil> oh, dont make me cry
[21:28] <goa-gil> ask me an honest question and i will answer
[21:29] <techsuperfreak> andy114: Trying using a different terminal - press CTRL-ALT-F2 and try there
[21:29] <ikonia> andy114: how did you set your password
[21:29] <soman> EriC^^: openjdk-7 nethogs
[21:29] <k1l_> andy114: that is another question. please reboot to revovery and set a easy password that cant be triggered by different keboard settings or capslock
[21:30] <soman> EriC^^: i downloaded from debian.packages.org and installed to the deb based distro
[21:30] <andy114> Okay im in recovery mode
[21:30] <andy114> Now what do I do?
[21:30] <andy114> :p
[21:30] <EriC^^> andy114: type passwd <your username>
[21:30] <andy114> Where?
[21:31] <EriC^^> press enable networking, then press drop to root shell
[21:31] <ikonia> andy114: how did you set your password
[21:31] <andy114> Through the install
[21:31] <ikonia> andy114: I told you to set the password to 123456 through the install
[21:31] <ikonia> andy114: did you do that ?
[21:32] <andy114> Nope :p
[21:32] <ikonia> andy114: why did you not do that ?
[21:32] <andy114> Because I did not see your message
[21:32] <ikonia> andy114: ok - please do that
[21:33] <ponyofdeath> hi, is there a way to prevent dnsmasq override resolv.conf with 127.0.0.1 even after I have port=-
[21:33] <ikonia> andy114: 123456 is a sequence that is not impacted by different keymaps, or caps lock
[21:33] <ikonia> ponyofdeath: you can disable dnsmasq within network manager config
[21:33] <ponyofdeath> ikonia: i am using dns masq
[21:33] <ponyofdeath> just for tftp / dhcp
[21:33] <ponyofdeath> not dns
[21:33] <andy114> Fine then, this will be the fourth time in Reinstalling
[21:33] <ikonia> ponyofdeath: errr dnsmasq is for dns
[21:34] <ikonia> it's nothing to do with tftp
[21:34] <ponyofdeath> ikonia: it has tfptp and dhcp
[21:34] <EriC^^> andy114: if you're already in the recovery reset it there
[21:34] <ponyofdeath> ikonia: i use ubuntu-server which does not seem to be running network manager either
[21:34] <andy114> omfg
[21:34] <ikonia> andy114: tone down the language, there is no need for it
[21:35] <ikonia> ponyofdeath: thats interesting
[21:35] <andy114> Okay im in Recovery mode
[21:35] <andy114> I enabled networking
[21:35] <k1l_> !password | andy114
[21:35] <EriC^^> andy114: ok, press drop to root shell
[21:35] <ponyofdeath> port=0 disables dns and i dont see dnsmasq listening on port 53 but it still overwrites my resolv.conf
[21:35] <andy114> Yep I have
[21:35] <ponyofdeath> which is annoying since i dont use it for dns
[21:35] <andy114> I typed passwd andy
[21:36] <andy114> It says change password
[21:36] <ikonia> ponyofdeath: to be honest, I didn't know it could do tftp/dhcp services,
[21:36] <k1l_> andy114: it was andy114 last time you showed the video
[21:36] <andy114> I reinstalled
[21:36] <EriC^^> andy114: ok, and did you change it?
[21:36] <andy114> Nope
[21:36] <k1l_> andy114: make sure to use the real nick and pws then. that is a sure way to get incorrect login
[21:36] <EriC^^> what do you mean?
[21:37] <andy114> Well you know how nothing comes up when I type for putting in my pass
[21:37] <EriC^^> yeah..
[21:37] <k1l_> andy114: stop
[21:37] <k1l_> andy114: that is 100% right.
[21:38] <k1l_> andy114: there is nothing to show up while you enter your pw. that is a security feature.
[21:38] <ikonia> andy114: please check your private messages, you can no longer talk in this channel
[21:38] <k1l_> andy114: i really think you are just trolling since we explained that 100 times now since 2 hours.
[21:44] <Guido2> hello, i have some trouble with http://www.2daygeek.com/installing-android-emulator-in-linux/ and http://www.2daygeek.com/whatsapp-installation-in-linux/ because of the 'libvirtd' group I think
[21:48] <petr__>  #gaygeeks :Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[21:48] <petr__> * #gayg
[21:48] <streulma> hi, is Virtualbox DKMS a problem with installing on 14.10 Utopic or is it solved ?
[21:48] <k1l_> !register | petr__ for more help please see #freenode
[21:49] <petr__>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER petr__ qpjwrskvlioa
[21:49] <Pici> petr__: try without the space in front.
[21:50] <mirak_> can we use ntrfs ?
[21:50] <mirak_> btrfs
[21:50] <bekks> Why wouldnt we?
[21:50] <k1l_> mirak_: you can use it. ubuntu standard is still ext4
[21:54] <andy114> Hi, I am sorry to bother you all but I am unable to sign into my Ubuntu server, this is a new install.
[21:54] <IdleOne> and change the password you are using
[21:55] <k1l_> andy114: are you sure you enter the right pw?
[21:55] <ikonia> set the password to 123456
[21:55] <EriC^^> andy114: when you changed the password using the recovery console, what happened?
[21:55] <k1l_> andy114: make sure to test a pw that is easy and doesnt depent on keyboard layouts.
[21:55] <ikonia> 123456 is a safe test
[21:56] <ikonia> it does not differ with languages
[21:56] <ikonia> or have a depend on caps lock
[21:56] <andy114> It said that the passwords do not match
[21:56] <ikonia> you did not type them the same
[21:56] <ikonia> use 123456
[21:56] <andy114> Yes I did
[21:56] <dts|pokeball> 2
[21:56] <ikonia> it is very hard to type that wrong
[21:56] <dts|pokeball> 3
[21:58] <andy114> Okay I did it, it now says Authentication token manipulation error
[21:58] <EriC^^> andy114: press enable networking
[21:58] <mark76> Hey.  I'm trying to install Ubuntu in a virtual machine.  How big is wbritish?
[21:58] <EriC^^> ctrl+d, then enable networking then drop to root shell
[21:58] <andy114> How do I get out of the console thing?
[21:58] <ikonia> andy114: what is the EXACT command you typed
[21:58] <ikonia> andy114: and I do mean exact
[21:58] <andy114> passwd andy
[21:59] <k1l_> (/ is still ro)
[21:59] <ikonia> yes
[21:59] <ikonia> andy114: type this
[21:59] <ikonia> mount -rw -o remount /
[21:59] <EriC^^> ikonia: he can't type 123456
[21:59] <EriC^^> press enable networking for the love of god
[21:59] <ikonia> yes, I see the risk
[22:00] <ikonia> this is why I wanted a clean install with a simple password
[22:00] <andy114> How do I get out of the black console thing, in order to select Networking?
[22:00] <EriC^^> andy114: type exit
[22:02] <andy114> I pressed enter on Networking and It took me to where it says do you wish to continue. Now im in another console
[22:02] <EriC^^> type id
[22:02] <andy114> And I cant get out of it, in order to press yes
[22:02] <andy114> Okay I have
[22:02] <daftykins> EriC^^: we only love Tux, here ;)
[22:03] <andy114> Nothings happened
[22:03] <jcbjoe_> hello .. just installed ubuntu without setting a root password .. anyway to fix this ? i installed ubuntu in a virtualbox
[22:03] <ikonia> jcbjoe_: ubuntu doesn't have a root password
[22:03] <ikonia> jcbjoe_: it uses your user password with sudo
[22:03] <jcbjoe_> oh
[22:05] <jcbjoe_> thanks
[22:05] <andy114> EriC^^ ??
[22:07] <ahmad_schlegel> hi all
[22:07] <MDTech-us_MAN> is there a gui app that shows how much internet you are currently using?
[22:07] <_guest_> hello, i need to know how to change the resolution for grub. will anyone help me?
[22:07] <EriC^^> andy114: press ctrl+d
[22:07] <MDTech-us_MAN> like as a notification or something
[22:07] <andy114> Nothing
[22:07] <EriC^^> andy114: what console are you in right now?
[22:08] <andy114> Its a black rectangle at the bottom of the screen
[22:08] <EriC^^> ok, does it say anything?
[22:08] <andy114> No, only what ive typed
[22:08] <streulma> I'm new to Ubuntu 14.10 :(
[22:09] <EriC^^> andy114: is there any prompt?
[22:09] <EriC^^> # ?
[22:09] <andy114> No
[22:09] <ikonia> just do a clean install
[22:09] <ikonia> set the password to 123456
[22:09] <ikonia> you're doing things that are outside your skill range
[22:09] <ikonia> make it simple - install, password 123456
[22:10] <andy114> Okay brb
[22:10] <streulma> has Ubuntu 14.04 problems with Intel 5000 ?
[22:10] <streulma> why has 14.10 better graphics ?
[22:10] <mark76> Good grief, this unpacking is taking forever
[22:12] <streulma> and HP is a problem with Ubuntu ! Thermal error
[22:13] <ikonia> I use multiple HP servers without any problem
[22:13] <streulma> my latest HP Pavilion 17 :(
[22:15] <EriC^^> daftykins: ;)
[22:17] <daftykins> streulma: all these issues, why don't you just return this machine and get one that's supported properly?
[22:17] <EleanorEllis> I'm having problems with xsane. It was working until today and I haven't changed anything. I have a Mustek 1200 UB Plus. Previously I had downloaded the sbfw.usb driver file into /usr/share/sane/gt68xx using sudo wget http://www.meier-geinitz.de/sane/gt68xx-backend/firmware/sbfw.usb and removed the # from the line #override "mustek-scanexpress-1200-ub-plus" in the /etc/sane.d/gt68xx.conf file. I had also added my user to 
[22:17] <streulma> daftykins I have a Macbook Air now :)
[22:17] <daftykins> streulma: ugh so you went from unsupported to experimental :(
[22:18] <Guido2> sudo aptitude install kvm libvirt-bin ubuntu-vm-builder bridge-utils
[22:18] <Guido2> sudo: aptitude: command not found - what is the problem / how to solve?
[22:18] <daftykins> sudo apt-get install....
[22:18] <k1l_> Guido2: dont use aptitude. apt-get is the ubuntu standard
[22:20] <Guido2> k1l_: okee, that works, but than https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Installation night have to be updated
[22:20] <mark76> Finally!
[22:20] <mark76> I thought that would never end
[22:21] <k1l_> Guido2: read carefully! there is listed: lucid or later with apt-get, karmic or earlier with aptitude
[22:21] <daftykins> mark76: with my respect, we don't need moment-by-moment updates of your personal ubuntu experience. keep it to support only please
[22:21] <Guido2> k1l_: okee
[22:21] <oniongirl> Hello everyone, Can someone please help me? I have an external hard disk that I used with my Macbook which i've now sold, Before I got rid of it I disabled journalizing on the disk but I still can't write to it. I can read it just fine but I have tried everything to make it writeable but nothing works. Would someone please help me?
[22:21] <ikonia> oniongirl: HFS write support on linux is not good
[22:21] <mark76> I didn't come here to abused by the likes of you daftykins
[22:21] <Guido2> daftykins: how do i do the next step (Add Users to Groups) resp. how do i know the corrrect user name?
[22:21] <daftykins> oniongirl: you've come in here months ago asking the same, HFS+ writing still isn't supported.
[22:22] <andy114> Okay its asking me for a Username what do i Put?
[22:22] <ikonia> andy114: your username
[22:22] <andy114> Which will be "andy"
[22:22] <andy114> And now a password
[22:22] <ikonia> andy114: whatever you want your username to be
[22:22] <andy114> so 123456?
[22:23] <ikonia> your password should be 123456
[22:23] <andy114> Okay, it is
[22:24] <oniongirl> daftykins,  it is possible if you Disable Journaling, which I did. but I cant figure out how to get it to write.
[22:24] <Guido2> k1l_: how do i do the next step (Add Users to Groups) resp. how do i know the corrrect user name? (it seams that I'm already a member of the group)
[22:24] <andy114> My keyboard was auto-detected btw
[22:24] <daftykins> oniongirl: no, write support is *not* available. for months we've told you this :) please accept it
[22:25] <Finetundra> how do i boot into a gui after installing it from a terminal only view
[22:25] <oniongirl> im sorry but your wrong. I've seen many different people who have done it online there are different tutorials but I just can't get them to work for me. daftykins
[22:25] <daftykins> oniongirl: no, you've seen experiments documented :) it's not supported as in not recommended.
[22:26] <k1l_> Guido2: "groups" shows "libvirtd" ?
[22:26] <EriC^^> Finetundra: which de did you install>
[22:26] <Finetundra> lxde
[22:26] <Bashing-om> Finetundra: What GUI did you install ? Depends on the command to start that session .
[22:26] <Guido2> k1l_: guido adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare libvirtd
[22:27] <ikonia> oniongirl: please read this http://paste.ubuntu.com/9468082/
[22:27] <k1l_> Guido2: that its done
[22:27] <Finetundra> better yet, how do you edit and save a text file while in a terminal view
[22:28] <daftykins> Finetundra: use the text editor 'nano'
[22:28] <daftykins> or any number of others
[22:28] <quickfm_> ni, anyone know how to install ubuntu on a BQ phone. It's a spanish brand
[22:28] <EriC^^> Finetundra: whatever you do don't type "ed"
[22:28] <daftykins> !touch | quickfm_
[22:28] <Finetundra> daftykins, got that far , how do i save it
[22:29] <daftykins> Finetundra: read the instructions at the bottom, 'ctrl+x' quit, etc etc
[22:29] <daftykins> you want 'write-out'
[22:29] <oniongirl> ikonia, hi, thanks. Yea, I know there are problems with journaling enabled but I disabled it before I sold my mac, before it was disabled it would not even mount. It is also under 2tb
[22:29] <quickfm_> nothing there that's why I ask here. It's not listed on the device compatibility ist
[22:29] <ikonia> oniongirl: read it
[22:29] <Finetundra> gotcha
[22:29] <ikonia> oniongirl: it does not ssay "there are no problems if you disable journal"
[22:29] <quickfm_> ok
[22:30] <Guido2> k1l_: so now i have to log in again and http://www.2daygeek.com/installing-android-emulator-in-linux// should work?
[22:30] <k1l_> Guido2: dont know. try it
[22:30] <oniongirl> ikonia, even still, I should be able to mount it as writeable.
[22:30] <ikonia> oniongirl: no
[22:30] <ikonia> oniongirl: you can force mount it as writeable but this will cause damage and is "not recommended"
[22:31] <oniongirl> ikonia, yes, that is if journaling is enabled which it's not/... it says " journaling must be disabled in order to write data safely to an HFS+ partition;"
[22:31] <ikonia> oniongirl: no it is not
[22:31] <ikonia> oniongirl: it is the same with journal disabled
[22:31] <daftykins> oniongirl: again, you're not even reading the full thing.
[22:32] <ikonia> oniongirl: you are welcome to force mount it
[22:32] <daftykins> oniongirl: anyway to save us from getting this request in another month or two, at least write up a pastebin of what you have tried and what errors you've encountered.
[22:32] <ikonia> you are welcome to disagree, and force mount it
[22:32] <oniongirl> if it were not possible why would they tell you its SAFE to mount if journaling is disabled?
[22:32] <daftykins> it doesn't say that!
[22:33] <oniongirl> daftykins,  journaling must be disabled in order to write data safely to an HFS+ partition:"
[22:33] <daftykins> oniongirl: stop saying the same thing over and over again
[22:33] <k1l_> oniongirl: it says: its worst to mount with journaling and not-so-worse to mount wihtout
[22:33] <Guido2> k1l_: I still get the message: Starting emulator for AVD 'Android'
[22:33] <Guido2> emulator: ERROR: x86 emulation currently requires hardware acceleration!
[22:33] <Guido2> Please ensure KVM is properly installed and usable.
[22:33] <Guido2> CPU acceleration status: KVM is not installed on this machine (/dev/kvm is missing). by trying to run the android
[22:33] <oniongirl> daftykins,  looks like thats what it says to me...
[22:33] <ikonia> oniongirl: ok - how are you trying to mount it
[22:33] <ikonia> oniongirl: what is the exact command
[22:34] <k1l_> Guido2: http://askubuntu.com/questions/552064/how-can-kvm-be-located-by-android-studio-on-ubuntu-14-04-lts
[22:34] <oniongirl> ikonia,  it mounts on login. I've tried changing permissions, I tried different tutorials, I've tried  sudo mount -o force /dev/sdX /your/mount/point
[22:35] <ikonia> oniongirl: show me the exact command you have used
[22:35] <oniongirl> ikonia, http://superuser.com/questions/84446/how-to-mount-a-hfs-partition-in-ubuntu-as-read-write
[22:35] <ikonia> oniongirl: show me the exact command you have used
[22:35] <oniongirl> ikonia,  sudo mount -o force /dev/sdX /your/mount/point
[22:36] <ikonia> oniongirl: that is not the exact command
[22:36] <ikonia> oniongirl: if you want help - please give the informaiton you have been asked for
[22:36] <oniongirl> Thats the command I used
[22:36] <ikonia> oniongirl: please show me the exact command you have used to mount it read / write
[22:36] <Guido2> k1l_: 1) nothing changed (nothing added etc.) 2) already member 3) already added
[22:37] <Guido2> k1l_: 4)  Id    Naam                           Toestand
[22:37] <Guido2> ----------------------------------------------------
[22:38] <k1l_> Guido2: dont know. what hardware is that?
[22:38] <Guido2> k1l_: but: kvm-ok
[22:38] <Guido2> INFO: /dev/kvm does not exist
[22:39] <k1l_> Guido2: is VT enabled in bios?
[22:39] <Guido2> k1l_: 64 bit, have not checked that, but should be, can i check it without booting?
[22:39] <daftykins> oniongirl: "mount | pastebinit"
[22:40] <bekks> Guido2: That Ubuntu you are talking about - is it a virtualbox vm or is it a physical installation?
[22:40] <daftykins> (the clue was KVM)
[22:40] <Guido2> bekks: physical instalation
[22:40] <lasdam> hey all. I need help with booting my ubuntu partition: after trying to grow my ubuntu partition with a gparted liveusb, I encountered some error that messed up the file systems on all the partitions apparently. my windows partition repaired its own file system, but the ubuntu partition just says something like "resuming libcrypt v someversion" and gets stuck there.
[22:40] <lasdam> I think maybe I had my ubuntu hibernated on accident. what I've done after is resize the partition successfully, deleted and re-created a swap partition, and commented out everything in the files /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume and /etc/uswsusp.conf, but I still get the same message on boot and no progress, and I'm running out of solutions from Google.
[22:40] <oniongirl> daftykins, i found this... but not sure how to install it.
[22:40] <oniongirl> http://sourceforge.net/projects/linux-hfsplus/files/Linux%202.4.x%20patch/hfsplus%200.2/
[22:40] <ikonia> oniongirl: please show me the exact command you have used to mount it read / write
[22:40] <bekks> daftykins: The questionaire happened in #vbox before ;)
[22:40] <daftykins> bekks: heh ah ok, sorry
[22:41] <daftykins> oniongirl: 12 year old software? no
[22:41] <Finetundra> how do i figure out my network card via terminal
[22:41] <daftykins> Finetundra: define 'figure out'
[22:41] <Finetundra> determine
[22:41] <daftykins> the make and model? lspci
[22:42] <Jordan_U> Finetundra: What do you want to determine about it?
[22:42] <Guido2> k1l_:  sudo kvm-ok
[22:42] <Guido2> INFO: /dev/kvm does not exist
[22:42] <Guido2> HINT:   sudo modprobe kvm_intel
[22:42] <Guido2> INFO: Your CPU supports KVM extensions
[22:42] <Guido2> INFO: KVM (vmx) is disabled by your BIOS
[22:42] <Guido2> HINT: Enter your BIOS setup and enable Virtualization Technology (VT),
[22:42] <Guido2>       and then hard poweroff/poweron your system
[22:42] <unopaste> Guido2 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[22:42] <k1l_> Guido2: use pastebin for several lines. and like is said before: enable it in bios
[22:42] <oniongirl> ikonia,  sudo usermod --uid 501 username
[22:42] <oniongirl> sudo chown -R 501:username /home/username
[22:43] <Finetundra> i installed using a wireless usb network card. however now it does not want to use that card. i want to know if its being detected
[22:43] <daftykins> oniongirl: so, "mount | pastebinit" ? :)
[22:43] <ikonia> that is nothing to do with mounting the disk
[22:43] <ikonia> oniongirl: please show me the exact command you used to mount the disk
[22:43] <Guido2> k1l_: okee, so that is the problem. will do that
[22:43] <daftykins> ikonia: there was mention of fstab earlier, i think it'd be handy to see what it looks like atm
[22:43] <ikonia> I don't disagree
[22:44] <andy114> Ikonia its allmost done
[22:44] <oniongirl> ikonia,  i tried this and it killed my entire install. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/hfsplus
[22:44] <ikonia> oniongirl: stop
[22:44] <ikonia> oniongirl: I'm not asking for any of that
[22:44] <ikonia> oniongirl: I am asking you for the exact command you used to mount the disk
[22:45] <ikonia> oniongirl: stop giving me other random stuff and give me the command you used to mount the disk
[22:45] <oniongirl> ikonia,  it auto mounts
[22:45] <ikonia> oniongirl: you said that, and you also said you had manually mounted
[22:45] <ObrienDave> *facepalm*
[22:45] <andy114> lol
[22:45] <ikonia> oniongirl: pastebin your /etc/fstab  please.
[22:45] <Jordan_U> Finetundra: "lsusb" to see if the kernel is able to access the card at all. "iwconfig" to see if in addition to accessing the device, the kernel has also loaded an appropriate driver for it and is treating it as a wireless card.
[22:46] <aeroflyluby> hello
[22:46] <Wachu> Hi
[22:47] <oniongirl> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/g7FvPHLK
[22:47] <ikonia> oniongirl: there is nothing in there about a hfs disk - so it must be auto mounting through dbus
[22:47] <daftykins> oniongirl: "mount | pastebinit"
[22:47] <ikonia> oniongirl: please pastebin the output of the command "mount"
[22:48] <ikonia> or as daftykins has just stated
[22:48] <Jordan_U> ikonia: s/dbus/udev :)
[22:48] <daftykins> perhaps the third time will be the charm
[22:48] <ikonia> Jordan_U: still dbus doing the desktop mount in 12.04 isn't it
[22:48] <Finetundra> and we're back to square one
[22:48] <oniongirl> daftykins,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/9468248/ hey that's a cool command I never knew about :)
[22:49] <ikonia> udev is just th device trigger
[22:49] <Guido2> k1l_ : it is better, but now i get: Starting emulator for AVD 'Android'; NAND: could not write file /tmp/android-guido/emulator-0c6FDk, Connection refused
[22:49] <Jordan_U> ikonia: dbus is just an IPC system, but maybe we're just aguing semantics.
[22:49] <ikonia> Jordan_U: probably
[22:49] <ikonia> orlock: it's mounted read only
[22:49] <daftykins> oniongirl: "sudo mount -o remount,force,rw /dev/sdc2"
[22:50] <daftykins> oniongirl: then "mount | pastebinit" again if no errors from the above
[22:50] <oniongirl> daftykins,  mount: warning: /media/abuayyoub/Untitled seems to be mounted read-only.
[22:51] <daftykins> is that all it says?
[22:51] <oniongirl> yes
[22:51] <daftykins> oniongirl: and the second command again?
[22:51] <oniongirl> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9468278/
[22:51] <Jordan_U> daftykins: Often mount detailed mount errors are sent to dmesg rather than stdout from mount.
[22:52] <daftykins> Jordan_U: i know
[22:52] <k1l_> /media/user sounds like gvfs is "automounting"
[22:52] <daftykins> oniongirl: "sudo umount /dev/sdc2 && sudo mkdir /mnt/untitled && sudo mount -t hfsplus -o remount,force,rw /dev/sdc2 /mnt/untitled"
[22:53] <k1l_> which means "i am clicking on it in a filebrowser"
[22:53] <daftykins> heh, or just booting
[22:54] <oniongirl> daftykins,  mount: /mnt/untitled not mounted or bad option
[22:54] <oniongirl> :(
[22:54] <ikonia> daftykins: dump remount
[22:54] <ikonia> you've already unmounted it
[22:54] <daftykins> oops i brain failed
[22:54] <daftykins> yep
[22:54] <daftykins> oniongirl: "sudo umount /dev/sdc2 && sudo mkdir /mnt/untitled && sudo mount -t hfsplus -o force,rw /dev/sdc2 /mnt/untitled"
[22:54] <daftykins> actually it's too late for that one
[22:54] <daftykins> oniongirl: ignore that a sec
[22:55] <oniongirl> ok
[22:55] <oniongirl> Thank you BTW!
[22:55] <daftykins> oniongirl: i still don't appreciate your stubborn intro
[22:55] <daftykins> oniongirl: does /mnt/untitled exist?
[22:55] <oniongirl> sorry ;)
[22:55] <daftykins> oniongirl: next time, fighting the official advice being "thing is unsupported" - take it as truth
[22:55] <oniongirl> daftykins,  no.
[22:56] <oniongirl> it dosent exsist.
[22:56] <daftykins> oniongirl: alright "sudo mkdir /mnt/untitled"
[22:56] <daftykins> oniongirl: now "sudo mount -t hfsplus -o force,rw /dev/sdc2 /mnt/untitled"
[22:57] <stanislawertuos> shit
[22:57] <ikonia> no need to swear
[22:58] <ikonia> it's not something we want in the channel please.
[22:58] <oniongirl> abuayyoub@Abuayyoub:~$ sudo mount -t hfsplus -o force,rw /dev/sdc2 /mnt/untitled
[22:58] <oniongirl> mount: /dev/sdc2 already mounted or /mnt/untitled busy
[22:58] <oniongirl> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sdc2 is already mounted on /mnt/untitled
[22:58] <daftykins> oniongirl: and another "mount | pastebinit" ?
[22:58] <stanislawertuos> what is this?
[22:59] <k1l_> !topic | stanislawertuos
[22:59] <oniongirl> daftykins,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/9468333/
[22:59] <kevindf> Hello, I am using GNOME-fallback but I would like my real name to be shown on the panel. The problem is that it's not there. When I go to dconf-editor I can clearly see it's enabled in apps -> indicator-session and then "show real name on panel" is checked
[22:59] <kevindf> anyone know what might be the problem here
[22:59] <daftykins> oniongirl: ok "dmesg | tail" in a pastebin please
[23:00] <kevindf> i've tried looking for a fix but nothing helped me
[23:00] <oniongirl> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9468339/ daftykins
[23:01] <daftykins> oniongirl: can you see what i see? :)
[23:01] <ikonia> ahhh the file system checks fail
[23:01] <daftykins> had a feeling we'd see that
[23:01] <ikonia> I didn't expect it to be honest
[23:01] <oniongirl> daftykins,  im not sure.
[23:01] <daftykins> oniongirl: sudo umount /dev/sdc2 && sudo fsck.hfsplus -f /dev/sdc2 (but know that you are doing this at your own risk.
[23:02] <ikonia> this will be a problem....
[23:02] <ikonia> I hope not though
[23:02] <oniongirl> daftykins,  what can happen?
[23:02] <ObrienDave> preps popcorn ;p
[23:02] <daftykins> oniongirl: you could lose everything.
[23:02] <daftykins> ObrienDave: gimme some!
[23:02] <oniongirl> on the disk or my ubuntu install?
[23:03] <ikonia> just the data disk
[23:03] <k1l_> on the hfs disk
[23:03] <daftykins> Tux, save me.
[23:03] <oniongirl> its checking things :P
[23:04]  * ObrienDave passes daftykins fresh, hot popcorn ;P
[23:04] <daftykins> \o/
[23:04] <daftykins> you know the best part? i'm reading the google #1 result on how to do this
[23:04] <oniongirl> daftykins,  ** The volume Untitled was repaired successfully.
[23:04] <daftykins> http://askubuntu.com/questions/332315/how-to-read-and-write-hfs-journaled-external-hdd-in-ubuntu-without-access-to-os
[23:05] <daftykins> oniongirl: ok back to: sudo mount -t hfsplus -o force,rw /dev/sdc2 /mnt/untitled
[23:05] <daftykins> oniongirl: and another "mount | pastebinit" after that
[23:06] <oniongirl> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9468390/
[23:06] <ikonia> and now the danger begins
[23:06] <ikonia> good luck
[23:06] <ikonia> nice work daftykins
[23:06] <oniongirl> HA~! looks like it worked!
[23:06] <daftykins> ikonia: ty
[23:06] <oniongirl> daftykins,  thank you!
[23:06] <ObrienDave> !cookie | daftykins
[23:06] <oniongirl> and i didnt lose anything
[23:06] <oniongirl> alright!
[23:06] <daftykins> oniongirl: however this will not still work on reboot. your system will go back to mounting it read only, if this disk is permanently attached you MUST create a manual /etc/fstab entry
[23:07] <oniongirl> it's attached by USB
[23:07] <daftykins> oniongirl: no, you're still at risk of losing things. that's the whole problem with using this disk.
[23:07] <daftykins> oniongirl: ok save this link and read the second reply (which has a #2 beside it) http://askubuntu.com/questions/332315/how-to-read-and-write-hfs-journaled-external-hdd-in-ubuntu-without-access-to-os
[23:08] <lasdam> how can I remove a package (uswsusp) from an ubuntu partition through mount without booting it?
[23:08] <oniongirl> ok, what should I add to /etc/fstab to make it mount r/w on reboot?
[23:08] <daftykins> oniongirl: it's possible that every time you plug it in, xubuntu will mount it read only. do you understand how to confirm that it's read-only and not read-write with the "mount" command?
[23:09] <daftykins> oniongirl: well as it's external, it doesn't matter because /etc/fstab is for permanent mounts. we can't do that
[23:09] <k1l_> (ans maybe it will need to get fscked)
[23:09] <k1l_> *and
[23:09] <oniongirl> daftykins,  ok. So, next time I want to make it r/w I run that same command again?
[23:10] <Jordan_U> lasdam: "sudo chroot /path/to/mountpoint" will get you a shell where you can run commands (mostly) as if you were booted into that system. For some low level operations you'll sometimes to to "prepare the chroot" before hand, for instance by bind mounting /dev/, /proc/, and /sys/ into the chroot.
[23:10] <oniongirl> this command: sudo umount /dev/sdc2 && sudo fsck.hfsplus -f /dev/sdc2
[23:10] <daftykins> oniongirl: well not necessarily, you can only run the mount command when it's unmounted. so you'd need to read "mount" and be sure /dev/sdc2 isn't already mounted
[23:10] <quidnunc> How do I reconfigure snapper after changing the location of a subvolume?
[23:10] <oniongirl> Ok
[23:10] <ObrienDave> ummm, i have several external USB drives listed in fstab
[23:11] <daftykins> oniongirl: you might want to play around with a few files and then test it
[23:11] <daftykins> ObrienDave: do you always boot with one or more disconnected?
[23:11] <ObrienDave> nope
[23:11] <daftykins> there you go then :P
[23:11] <lasdam> Jordan_U: chroot: failed to run command ‘/bin/bash’: Exec format error
[23:11] <daftykins> ObrienDave: pretty sure a system is gonna be upset with having a disk in fstab which isn't present at boot?
[23:12] <oniongirl> daftykins,  ok. im going to try and write something. it let me delete some files im gonna see if it will let me write to it.
[23:12] <EriC^^> lasdam: are both arch's the same?
[23:12] <ObrienDave> if so, i just skip mounting. no problems so far
[23:12] <Jordan_U> lasdam: You're probably running this from a 32 bit Ubuntu installation, while the installation you're trying to run commands in is 64 bit. That can't (easily) be done.
[23:12] <daftykins> oniongirl: ok just be aware that i'm not responsible for the universe exploding :P
[23:12] <oniongirl> LOL thank you
[23:12] <sistem> по русски кто базарит!?
[23:12] <EriC^^> !ru | sistem
[23:13] <lasdam> Jordan_U: ah, I see. yeah. I'll try to reinstall/see if ubuntu has a 64bit liveusb iso and come back again if chrooting -> removing the uswsusp package wasn't enough to fix my problem
[23:14] <Jordan_U> lasdam: There is definitely a 64 bit live iso, the normal installer image is a live image (and there is a 64 bit install iso).
[23:15] <lasdam> Jordan_U: but is it usb-compatible?
[23:16] <akira> hello
[23:16] <lasdam> Jordan_U: I'm just gonna go and try. thanks for the help, might bbl.
[23:23] <kristofers> Hi
[23:23] <kristofers> I've got a problem :)
[23:23] <kristofers> not a fun one
[23:24] <kristofers> trying to boot in recovery mode
[23:24] <kristofers> and i'm getting permission denied after selecting recovery in the GRUB
[23:24] <kristofers> is there any way i can mount another linux boot on that one so i can recover my files
[23:25] <theadmin> kristofers: If all you want is to recover files, why not just use a live medium?
[23:25] <kristofers> not sure what that is
[23:25] <k1l_> its the thingy you installed ubuntu with
[23:25] <kristofers> well it's a cloud machine
[23:26] <k1l_> well, informations and details matter
[23:26] <kristofers> sorry
[23:26] <kristofers> only thing i can do is reboot the machine, mount a new volume on it
[23:26] <kristofers> and that's about it
[23:26] <k1l_> kristofers: best is to talk to the support.
[23:26] <k1l_> *the hosters support
[23:26] <kristofers> well i was wondering if there was a way i could avoid doing so
[23:27] <kristofers> if i would mount a disk with linux wouldnt the grub pick up on that ?
[23:27] <kristofers> and allow me to boot that linux
[23:28] <bijad> How can i remove chrome ? its not visible in the software manager under INTERNET
[23:28] <k1l_> kristofers: you got a cloud install. in most cases you cant just boot stuff or a disk like you could on a real desktop. so best is to talk to their support to get to know what choices you have on their setup
[23:28] <kristofers> i have the console
[23:28] <kristofers> and see everything from reboot
[23:28] <theadmin> bijad: sudo apt-get remove google-chrome-*
[23:28] <kristofers> how do you think i can get to the GRUB and select recovery
[23:29] <k1l_> bijad: "sudo apt-get remove google-chrome-stable
[23:29] <Fun> any ideas how to login to ubuntu via winscp via sftp as root
[23:29] <Fun> with sudo
[23:30] <bekks> Fun: you cant login using sftp using sudo
[23:32] <Fun> bekss some old howto said i can
[23:32] <Fun> of then what can I use?
[23:32] <Fun> scp?
[23:35] <Fun> ok sudo-s worked
[23:36] <ObrienDave> gotta love self-helpers lol
[23:37] <bekks> ObrienDave: I'm just curious on how he/she issues sudo -s using SFTP ;)
[23:37] <ObrienDave> magic ;P
[23:39] <ObrienDave> must be in the "old how-to" lol
[23:42] <jazzed> what is the purpose of apt-key? Is it a way where I say I trust this repo and accept downloads from it?
[23:43] <Fleetflame> jazzed: Well, "I trust this key" specifically
[23:43] <Fleetflame> or "these keys"
[23:43] <iLogic> hey guys, i'm trying to install ubuntu and need to remove a previous fedora LVM install, but can't delete the /dev/mapper/* entries in gparted.. already tried dmsetup remove to no avail
[23:43] <jazzed> thanks for clarifying Fleetflame.
[23:43] <Fleetflame> jazzed: try "man apt-key" at  command line
[23:44] <Jordan_U> iLogic: You need to delete the partitions containing the physical volumes.
[23:44] <jazzed> ty again
[23:44] <Fleetflame> No problem :-]
[23:44] <iLogic> Jordan_U: can't delete them either
[23:45] <Jordan_U> iLogic: What happens when you try to?
[23:45] <iLogic> Jordan_U: it's marked as unknown and the minus button greyed out
[23:45] <Jordan_U> !screenshot | iLogic
[23:49] <Jordan_U> iLogic: You may need to "sudo vgremove volume_group_name" from a terminal before gparted will allow you to delete the partition.
[23:52] <Mega1> how do i check hd space
[23:53] <bekks> Mega1: Just issue "df -h" in a terminal.
[23:54] <Mega1> sda1 seems to be full
[23:54] <RobNyc> !bcm4321
[23:54] <Mega1> 98% use
[23:55] <Demon_Jester> Hey guys I am working on a script to delete a line in a while loop but I am having trouble, would I ask in here or what channel would be more appropriate
[23:55] <Mega1> how do i free up some space
[23:55] <Jordan_U> Demon_Jester: What language are you writing the script in?
[23:55] <iLogic> Jordan_U: I uploaded the screenshots here: http://imgur.com/xHiCbKj,pZxzC4m
[23:55] <Demon_Jester> bash, but im using sed to delete the lines, the people in bash channel will cry if it isn't true bash
[23:56] <Jordan_U> Demon_Jester: I still think that #bash would be a good choice, and if not then for the sed portion #sed.
[23:58] <iLogic> Jordan_U: vgremove did the trick, thanks a lot bro!