/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/12/11/#kubuntu-devel.txt

bukaiRiddell: ping04:59
bukaisgclark: ping04:59
keithzg_Should I actually be reporting bugs in Plasma5 if I'm seeing them from the kubuntu next PPA, and if so should it be upstream, or?05:15
valoriekeithzg_: yes, please05:43
valoriein bko 05:43
soeegood morning07:11
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shadeslayermorning08:01
soeehiho08:10
lordievaderGood morning.08:23
Sick_RimmitRiddell: Ping.. good morning08:59
Sick_RimmitJust trying export KWIN_USE_BUFFER_AGE=0; kwin --replace &"08:59
Sick_Rimmitkwin appears not to be installed on Plasma5, does that sound correct /09:00
Sick_Rimmit?09:00
valorieSick_Rimmit: I got the same result09:00
Sick_RimmitHi Valorie09:01
valoriehi09:01
Sick_RimmitAh, yes09:01
Sick_RimmitI don't want to try installing kwin however, as I suspect it will break stuff09:01
valorieexactly09:01
Sick_RimmitI think i'll leave this one for further advice from the Ninjas09:02
bukaiRiddell: ping10:00
RiddellSick_Rimmit: oh it's kwin_x1110:18
Riddell"Jussi Schultink (jussi01) renewed their own membership in the Kubuntu Members" yay jussi still loves us!10:19
Riddellusability problem on downloading? https://paste.kde.org/pfs44lm0g10:22
soeeui10:33
Riddellhi soee 10:37
soeeRiddell: so iv seen that qt 5.4 is released and you plan to use it with plasma 5.2 ?10:55
Riddellsoee: yeah I think so11:04
soeecool :)11:04
* Riddell spots stable/applications/14.12.0/src/11:18
Riddell!ninjas | applications 14.12.011:18
ubottuapplications 14.12.0: Ninja Time! apachelogger, debfx, JontheEchidna, Quintasan, Riddell, ScottK, yofel, sgclark11:18
_Groo_Riddell: whats the problem with silly nicknames? :D 11:53
_Groo_Riddell: i felt offended :P we are a minority you know!11:54
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Sick_RimmitRiddell: Ah, been away. OK Thanks will try kwin_x1112:40
Sick_RimmitSome feedback on freezing. You can test this oddly using Google Hangouts. It seems that the video feed, makes what ever is causing the problem happen much more frequently, like every 2 to 3 minutes12:41
Riddellhmm, interesting12:41
Sick_RimmitSo I will test this some more, I had a Hangout call earlier which was why I was trying to set the param. 12:42
Sick_RimmitI will try again on the next one ;-)12:42
Sick_Rimmitvalorie: Ping -> did you see the note about kwin_x11 ^12:43
Sick_RimmitSo command to try should be 12:44
Sick_Rimmitexport KWIN_USE_BUFFER_AGE=0; kwin_X11 --replace &"12:44
RiddellSick_Rimmit: lower-case x12:52
bukaiRiddell: Hi12:58
Riddellhi bukai 12:58
bukaiRiddell: Did you get my mail?12:58
Riddellbukai: don't think so, which one?12:59
bukai_Riddell: Can I generate a new private key to access the server?13:02
Riddellbukai_: the web server? what happaned to your last one?13:02
bukai_Riddell: I had an accident and my laptop os in 2 piece now, I am using a college desktop for now13:03
bukai_Riddell: *I had an accident and my laptop is in 2 piece now, I am using a college desktop for now13:04
Riddellerk13:04
Riddellwell if you can generate a key in a secure place then update your launchpad account and ping me to take it from there13:04
bukai_Riddell: ok , I will do it once I fix mine because our college desktop has windows! :(13:06
bukai_Riddell: This week I am planning to rather convert the theme to WordPress13:06
Riddellbukai_: great :)13:08
Sick_RimmitRiddell: 10-4 thanks - lower case13:08
Riddellshadeslayer: https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/ubuntu/kde-extra/+packages ?13:13
shadeslayerRiddell: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+archive/ubuntu/transitions13:13
Riddellshadeslayer: ah, for the bluez 5 transition?13:15
shadeslayeryep13:15
Riddellthat's still the kde4 version13:15
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RiddellI'm wondering if there is a kf5 version anywhere13:15
shadeslayerRiddell: ask nowrep13:16
shadeslayerin #solid13:16
Riddellmm David Rosca13:17
soeehey im planing to buy ssd for my laptop, is there any point on geting > than 128 GB ?13:19
BluesKaj'Morning all13:19
soeehey BluesKaj13:20
BluesKajhi soee13:20
sneleSick_Rimmit: valorie: on plasma5, kwin process is renamed to kwin_x11 so it would be kwin_x11 --replace13:23
sneleheh I think I am way too late with that advice :)13:25
kranzerRiddell: hello, are you here?13:38
Riddellhi kranzer 13:39
kranzerRiddell: I've done my task yesterday, but I don't know what to attach in melange13:39
Riddellkranzer: what have you done?13:44
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kranzerRiddell: size of icons13:45
Riddellkranzer: where?13:47
kranzerRiddell: calligra13:47
Riddellkranzer: right but where are they?13:49
kranzerRiddell: on my hdd )13:50
kranzerRiddell: I don't know how to attach my work13:50
kranzerRiddell: and I'm not sure if it is right13:51
Riddellkranzer: tar up the directory and put it on a web server somewhere? (google drive or dropbox maybe)13:51
kranzerokay13:51
kranzerRiddell: two tars https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bx5QnsK1RhfbdXItczFQSHU2ekE/ https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bx5QnsK1RhfbdFRPM0hsa2I1cEE/13:56
kranzerRiddell: could you take a look?13:57
* Riddell looks13:58
Sick_Rimmitsnele: Hey, just way for lunch, thank you for that pointer :-)14:13
Riddellkranzer: getting distracted, will get onto shortly14:13
kranzerRiddell: okay14:14
sneleSick_Rimmit: no problem :) blog post about that change: http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2014/06/kwin-is-no-more/14:15
Riddellkranzer: looking at application-x-vnd.kde.kplato.work.png the whole image has been resized so the aspect ratio is now all wonky, it needs the canvas resized without the image being changed14:21
kranzerRiddell: thank you14:24
Riddelldantti_laptop: you happy if we move print-manager into plasma ? Jan is also all for it14:30
jstaniekhello, any ideas how to trigger update of Calligra for Kubuntu? it's over week after 2.8.7 release. https://userbase.kde.org/Calligra/Download#Kubuntu14:39
* jstaniek is considering marking Linux Mint as unsupported as well as who-knows what distros14:39
soeeisnt there some task for students to do this ?14:40
soeeyes, http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2014/454076817368678414:41
Riddelljstaniek: it's done but it's blocked from going into release due to automated QA not working https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calligra/1:2.8.7-0ubuntu114:45
Riddellthat's the ubuntu automated QA14:45
Riddelljstaniek: but yes it could also do with an update for 14.1014:45
jstaniekRiddell: thx a lot14:45
Riddellmaybe I'll make that a google code in tawsk too14:45
jstaniekwe're in situation that even slightly newer version is a big difference14:46
kranzerRiddell: I've done the main part of work, now I'm going to do some maths, bye14:50
PaliRiddell: ping, I want to remind my PPA14:51
jmuxRiddell: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2014-December/065207.html15:13
Riddelljmux: scary!15:15
Riddelljmux: all I did was set up the build system stuff by renaming the plugin to kde515:16
Riddelljmux: actually porting it from qt4 to qt5 is still to do and I expect to be far more tricky15:16
Riddelland then yeah, all the stuff you mention in the e-mail15:16
RiddellPali: thanks, one day soon..15:17
jmuxRiddell: ah - ok. Guess the port is the easy stuff :-)15:17
Riddelljmux: but breeze icons first, that should be do-able15:18
Riddellhttps://community.kde.org/KDE_Visual_Design_Group/LibreOffice_Breeze if you haven't seen it15:19
jmuxI looked at it a few days after the hackfest15:20
Riddellyeah thought so, the google code in students are adding bits to it15:20
Riddelljmux: I also suggested they just port libreoffice to Qt but they didn't seem too keen on that for some reason15:28
jmuxRiddell: who is "they"?15:29
Riddelljmux: libreoffice dudes in munich, it wasn't an entirely serious suggestion15:31
jmuxRiddell: Well the KDE4 backend was broken for a long time until we wanted to use it and I had to fix it; I'm basically the only one interested in it...15:37
Riddelljmux: I think only one interested and brave enough to touch it15:37
jmuxAnd the gtk backend has simply more features like gvfs integration15:37
kranzerRiddell: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bx5QnsK1RhfbazZOdmFZZV82QUU/   https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bx5QnsK1RhfbRV9vOE1mdlg4ZTQ/16:52
kranzerRiddell: done, I think ;)16:52
Riddellkranzer: looking good, can you rename them so they use the same names as in the source code?18:17
Riddellapt-get source calligra  will get your the source code18:18
kranzerI have sources18:18
kranzerRiddell: and i was just changing files18:19
kranzerso, new files have the names that the old had18:20
Riddellyou have hicolor/128x128/actions/template_empty.png18:21
RiddellI'm after ./plan/workpackage/templates/Simple/hi128-action-template_empty.png18:22
* Riddell out18:22
kranzerRiddell: I don't understand ;(18:26
kranzerRiddell: ahhh understand18:29
_Groo_guys, in kf5, do we have any layout option besides desktop in desktop settings?18:38
_Groo_kde4 used to have a folder view , a netbook view etc etc18:38
_Groo_am i missing something or it wasnt ported yet?18:38
yofelnetbook definitely isn't there, folder view dunno18:40
* yofel is just trying to upgrade to vivid18:40
sgclarkI have folder and desktop18:42
kranzerRiddell: done https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bx5QnsK1RhfbNjRYbmNLQ0ZPT28/18:42
_Groo_guysi reached my 2gb quota of my ppa, how do i remove old builds? can i just use the delete option or i need a special recipe?18:52
yofeljust use the delete-packages page, will take a couple hours until the space is cleaned up though18:54
_Groo_yofel: whats the url?18:55
yofelsame as +packages, just +delete-packages18:56
yofelthere's also a button on the ppa page18:56
_Groo_the thing is18:57
_Groo_https://launchpad.net/~paulo-miguel-dias/+archive/ubuntu/mesa/+delete-packages18:57
_Groo_yeah its the same i use18:57
yofelright?18:57
_Groo_but it doesnt allow me or show me the superseeded packages18:57
_Groo_or the failed builds18:57
_Groo_which are plenty18:57
yofelfailed builds will only have sources, no binaries, and superseded packages get auto-cleaned18:58
yofelunless the new source is missing a binary18:58
_Groo_yofel, is there any way to have a little bigger ppa?19:01
yofelyes, ask the admins (i.e. create a launchpad question asking for more space)19:01
dantti_laptopRiddell: not happy :P19:33
yofelwhy not? ^^19:34
dantti_laptopwell I was about to completely drop support for plasma for it19:35
dantti_laptopbut due to my lack of time I've been thinking on dropping maintainance for all my projects and probably fork them all later19:36
dantti_laptopyofel: reason for the why being me not liking plasma at all19:37
yofeldesign or functionality?19:37
dantti_laptopmore of the former19:38
dantti_laptopi tried to setup my own idea of a shell but I really need to focus on other stuff right now19:39
yofelk19:39
dantti_laptopso maybe release what I've been doing not to block developmet is a nicer thing to do...19:39
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dantti_laptopRiddell: for the bug you reported install system-config-printer19:53
dantti_laptopiirc I asked Debian packagers to fix this dependency but it seems that you forgot to do the same19:54
yofelok, survived the vivid upgrade, now lets see how much of the UI-Hugeness of plasma5 I can exorcise19:55
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soeehho21:36
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