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| Josh^ | what is the white button at the top left of my windows? | 00:31 |
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| Josh^ | it doesn't seem to do anything | 00:31 |
| valorie | Josh^: is it a circle with a dot in the middle? | 00:35 |
| Josh^ | valorie, yes | 00:35 |
| valorie | ok, that is the button that allows the application window you are using to be seen on either all activities or all virtual desktops | 00:35 |
| valorie | I think the latter | 00:36 |
| valorie | in general, if you don't use virt desktops, we're removed it in kubuntu | 00:36 |
| Josh^ | interesting, is there a way to make it not show up? | 00:36 |
| Josh^ | I don't usually use other "Activities" | 00:36 |
| valorie | I believe in systemsettings you can choose to display only one desktop, 2, 4, 8 etc. | 00:37 |
| valorie | if you choose one, the button will disappear, at least in kub. .... 14.04 and on I think | 00:38 |
| Josh^ | thanks valorie :) | 00:40 |
| valorie | yw | 00:42 |
| TheFakeazneD525 | Sysinfo for 'lcom': Running inside KDE 4.14.2 on Ubuntu 14.10 (Utopic Unicorn) powered by Linux 3.16.0-25-generic, CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E6750 @ 2.66GHz at 1998-2664/2664 MHz, RAM: 2966/3952 MB, Storage: 38/282 GB, 225 procs, 4.67h up | 00:42 |
| TheFakeazneD525 | I'm on utopic finally :D | 00:42 |
| valorie | welcome to the future! | 00:43 |
| valorie | Sysinfo for 'valorie-HP-Pavilion-dv7-Notebook-PC': Running inside KDE 4.14.2 on Ubuntu 14.10 (Utopic Unicorn) powered by Linux 3.16.0-25-generic, CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3610QM CPU @ 2.30GHz at 1221-1693/3300 MHz, RAM: 7724/7883 MB, Storage: 414/784 GB, 321 procs, 195.15h up | 00:43 |
| TheFakeazneD525 | I'm not running the KF5 spin though :P | 00:44 |
| * valorie is also running plasma 5 | 00:44 | |
| TheFakeazneD525 | maybe by january though | 00:44 |
| valorie | maybe | 00:45 |
| valorie | some of the bugs are getting fixed | 00:45 |
| valorie | good enough for everyday use for me, but not for everybody | 00:45 |
| * TheFakeazneD525 nods | 00:48 | |
| TheFakeazneD525 | valorie: so *buntu is getting ffmpeg back \o/ | 00:51 |
| Josh^ | HexChat: 2.9.6 ** OS: Linux 3.13.0-40-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Debian jessie/sid ** CPU: 4 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3230M CPU @ 2.60GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1.20GHz ** RAM: Physical: 5.7GB, 77.1% free ** Disk: Total: 205.7GB, 91.0% free ** VGA: 8086:0166 ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH ** Ethernet: 10ec:8168 ** Uptime: 4h 54m 39s ** | 00:57 |
| Josh^ | hm, well then | 00:57 |
| littlegirl | Hey there, I'm running Kubuntu 12.04 Precise Pangolin and got some updates today, and ever since then I'm spontaneously logged out and sitting at the log-in screen every time the screensaver tries to kick in. The screensaver is set to go off after 5 minutes of inactivity. If I try to go into system settings in the GUI to uncheck the box that tells the screensaver to come on, I get instantly logged out before I have time to uncheck | 01:04 |
| littlegirl | the box and hit Apply. Is there a command line way I can uncheck that box? | 01:04 |
| littlegirl | Hey there, I'm running Kubuntu 12.04 Precise Pangolin and got some updates today, and ever since then I'm spontaneously logged out and sitting at the log-in screen every time the screensaver tries to kick in. The screensaver is set to go off after 5 minutes of inactivity. If I try to go into system settings in the GUI to uncheck the box that tells the screensaver to come on, I get instantly logged out before I have time to uncheck | 01:10 |
| littlegirl | the box and hit Apply. Is there a command line way I can uncheck that box? | 01:10 |
| littlegirl | Is there a command line way to change the screensaver settings? | 01:14 |
| littlegirl | Thanks for the help. | 01:18 |
| keithzg | littlegirl: I think that's configured in .kde/share/config/kscreansaver | 01:28 |
| keithzg | err wait, typo on my part heh | 01:28 |
| keithzg | ~/.kde/share/config/kscreensaverrc | 01:30 |
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| Squidward | !ops | waaaaaaaaaaa | 02:10 |
| Roey | hey all | 02:19 |
| Roey | lordievader: like right now, Amarok is operating with 134% CPU time as given by 'top' | 02:19 |
| Roey | this is insane | 02:19 |
| Roey | Amarok is just not responsive at all to clicks | 02:19 |
| Roey | Firefox is not response to clicks when it has like 8 tabs open | 02:19 |
| Roey | If I re-install, I need to prevent losing my @home, which is a subvol on the BTRFS partition that also holds @. | 02:20 |
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| user1397 | how do you enable spanish characters? more specifically, how do you make a spanish n (with the tilde). I remmeber on windows all you had to do was Alt+164 | 03:27 |
| keithzg | user1397: Personally I just always call up a character map, but to be able to do some sort of Key+otherkeys to write a special character, you'll probably have to go into the advanced keyboard settings and enable a compose key. | 03:33 |
| keithzg | user1397: Once you have a compose key set up, you can look in /usr/share/X11/locale/en_US.UTF-8/Compose for the default mapping (assuming your locale is set to en_US.UTF-8; adjust as necessary!) for how to get each character. | 03:35 |
| keithzg | See https://userbase.kde.org/Tutorials/ComposeKey perhaps if that isn't clear. | 03:36 |
| user1397 | keithzg: gotcha, thanks! | 03:44 |
| user1397 | i figured the easiest thing for me actually is to just add spanish keyboard in settings, and just switch between english and spanish in the taskbar | 04:06 |
| user1397 | also, what's the best way to slow down my scroll speed on my trackpad? i tried to mes around with the trackpad settings in system settings but wasn't having much luck. anyone else have this problem? | 04:10 |
| naccis | i am new to linux i really could use a little help getting my iphone and ipad to connect | 04:27 |
| naccis | i am running kubuntu 14.04 all updates have been done. i am trying to connect to the ipad and it seems to cause a system crash | 04:29 |
| naccis | any takers? | 04:31 |
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| fego | 3 | 06:45 |
| soee | good morning | 07:11 |
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| lordievader | Good morning. | 08:23 |
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| alket | Hi, im running kde telepathy , sometimes when someone writes me on GTalk , windows pops but there is no message , what could it be ? | 11:48 |
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| alket | yeah , one thing I know about KDE is that the support is almost non-existent | 12:08 |
| alket | such a great software, such a low support | 12:08 |
| hateball | That's unfortunate | 12:08 |
| hateball | You could try #kde when this channel is idle | 12:09 |
| alket | all kde channels are idle, all time | 12:09 |
| DansTaFace | hey coucou la dedans :) | 12:16 |
| DansTaFace | personne peu me dire comment on se connect sur un autre serveur irc ? | 12:20 |
| hateball | !fr | 12:21 |
| ubottu | Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci. | 12:21 |
| DansTaFace | merci super gentil ;) | 12:22 |
| DansTaFace | good morning my friend | 12:22 |
| DansTaFace | bye bye | 12:22 |
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| JunkHunk | hello how to configure an old logitech keyboard? though it looks like working volume controls won't do anything I need to use applications or sound menus to control volume | 12:42 |
| hateball | JunkHunk: what do you mean "looks like working" ? | 12:44 |
| hateball | does pressing the keys bring up the OSD indicating volume changes? | 12:45 |
| JunkHunk | hateball I mean when I operate volume controls in the keyboard a bar appears on screen mesuring the sound as I go up and down but it does nothing it has no effect | 12:47 |
| JunkHunk | its a logitech /Y-BN52 | 12:48 |
| JunkHunk | I didnt find that model in kubuntu system preferences...it was working with the default and it is working with the logitech internet elite keyboard set but...not quite there yet | 12:49 |
| hateball | JunkHunk: can you edit global shortcuts? | 12:49 |
| JunkHunk | hmmm | 12:50 |
| hateball | and choose component kmix, then try reassigning the shortcuts | 12:50 |
| hateball | see if it picks up your keys | 12:50 |
| JunkHunk | I think it has something to do with sound config | 12:50 |
| JunkHunk | its the only thing not working | 12:50 |
| hateball | make sure it's using the right "main channel" | 12:51 |
| hateball | rightclick kmix in tray | 12:51 |
| JunkHunk | ouch | 12:53 |
| JunkHunk | you nailed | 12:53 |
| JunkHunk | I was using the graphics card HDMI channel which is not plugged | 12:54 |
| JunkHunk | cool | 12:54 |
| JunkHunk | depeche mode sounds cool now | 12:54 |
| JunkHunk | hateball you might not like slopes | 12:54 |
| JunkHunk | but balls?? | 12:55 |
| JunkHunk | balls are fun!!! | 12:55 |
| hateball | xD | 13:12 |
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| BluesKaj | 'Morning all | 13:19 |
| petsounds | hi. where do i find config file for kmail? | 13:22 |
| darokthar | https://userbase.kde.org/Kmail/Configuring_Kmail#Options_without_a_user_interface_representation | 13:32 |
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| petsounds | darokthar: thx | 13:51 |
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| EvilRoey | Good morning all. | 13:59 |
| FlameReaper-PC | Is it me or is it that CIFS file mounting has this one problem | 14:00 |
| FlameReaper-PC | where if a mounted share's node is down | 14:01 |
| FlameReaper-PC | connection error or what have you | 14:01 |
| FlameReaper-PC | and the share is still mounted | 14:01 |
| FlameReaper-PC | any attempts to do file browsing hangs almost indefinitely | 14:01 |
| alvin | The year is 2014. I'm trying to find horizsync and vertrefresh of a monitor.... (that's a sign we need a bigger budget) | 14:01 |
| FlameReaper-PC | alvin: which reminds me, tearing is quite frequent | 14:02 |
| alvin | FlameReaper-PC: You're describing NFS :-) How is the share mounted? On your filesystem, or with KIO? | 14:02 |
| FlameReaper-PC | alvin: Hmm, not sure, all I can describe is that I use a program to handle mounting | 14:02 |
| FlameReaper-PC | smb4k it is | 14:02 |
| alvin | FlameReaper-PC: Oh, the issue here is old hardware. Very old hardware. < 2000. | 14:03 |
| alvin | Ah, I've never used that. | 14:03 |
| alvin | I always try to use NFS, and when I need SMB, usually kio is easy enough. Sometimes, I do the stuff manually too. Ehm, mount -t cifs (or is it smbfs again?) -o username=me //server/share /mnt | 14:04 |
| FlameReaper-PC | alvin: well before I used that, I followed some instructions in which it's to write some mount commands into the /etc/fstab file | 14:04 |
| alvin | there are more options, but that's basically it. | 14:04 |
| FlameReaper-PC | ... and yeah the same common problem whenever a connection lag/disconnection occurs | 14:05 |
| FlameReaper-PC | yeah that mount command is what I've used before I decided to use the program so that the process becomes one-click | 14:05 |
| alvin | I think that can be expected, no? Are there file sharing protocols who don't have trouble with that? | 14:05 |
| BluesKaj | cifs is usually used with samba /smb afaik | 14:06 |
| FlameReaper-PC | alvin: yeah but it's quite hurting when KDE opens the open file dialogue and it ends up not responding due to the mount being gone due to connection errors | 14:06 |
| alvin | If that's what you want, you can still add everything to /etc/fstab, and use the noauto,user options. You'll see the shares in Dolphin, and they will only be mounted when clicked upon. | 14:06 |
| FlameReaper-PC | ... maybe I should consider getting some extra LAN cables and stop depending on wireless to handle my connections | 14:06 |
| alvin | You should :-) KDE can't know that the share disconnected, unless it gets a timeout. And that, by definition, takes time. | 14:07 |
| FlameReaper-PC | alvin: I interpret "takes time" as in "forever" :p | 14:07 |
| FlameReaper-PC | at least I have a 8-port hub that I should utilize for my room | 14:08 |
| alvin | You should try NFS. Takes days :-) | 14:08 |
| FlameReaper-PC | alvin: wow | 14:08 |
| FlameReaper-PC | Now that makes me wonder about production studios | 14:08 |
| FlameReaper-PC | one I've went to uses NFS | 14:08 |
| alvin | 2 days ago, I installed a new FreeNAS system, imported the config, rebooted a few times, and saw that I forgot to unmount all NFS clients. After the whole upgrade process, all drives were back again. No issues, but very unresponsive during the downtime. | 14:09 |
| FlameReaper-PC | I imagine it'll be quite hell whenever a deadline for productions comes near and the NFS suddenly decides to sleep... | 14:09 |
| alvin | Yes, that's not good. I avoid wireless. | 14:10 |
| alvin | That's nice for tablets, but not for production stuff with fileservers. | 14:11 |
| alvin | FlameReaper-PC: Have you tried kio? | 14:11 |
| alvin | It's not fit for everything, but very handy. | 14:11 |
| alvin | LibreOffice doesn't like it too much. Pure KDE software usually has no trouble with it. | 14:12 |
| FlameReaper-PC | alvin: how do I use it? | 14:12 |
| FlameReaper-PC | by the way that's also a problem | 14:12 |
| alvin | Easy. In dolphin smb://fileserver | 14:13 |
| FlameReaper-PC | since I'm mounting my music folders for Audacious to play it | 14:13 |
| FlameReaper-PC | and Audacious is a GTK+ program | 14:13 |
| alvin | In Dolphin also: remote:/ You can create Network Folder links to all your favourite servers. | 14:13 |
| alvin | Hmmm | 14:13 |
| alvin | I don't know. You'll have to try. Maybe it works, but that's typically something where I would use fstab. (or something like daap when possible) | 14:14 |
| alvin | Gnome has something similar though. | 14:15 |
| alvin | gvfs? | 14:15 |
| jstaniek | hmm what should I enter about Kubuntu here? is there calligra for it? kubuntu-CI? | 14:15 |
| jstaniek | https://userbase.kde.org/Calligra/Download | 14:16 |
| jstaniek | (I mean recent versions > 2.8.5) | 14:16 |
| FlameReaper-PC | jstaniek: Wouldn't calligra be available from the backports PPA | 14:16 |
| FlameReaper-PC | oh | 14:16 |
| FlameReaper-PC | shouldn't it already be there | 14:16 |
| alvin | !info calligra | 14:16 |
| ubottu | calligra (source: calligra): extensive productivity and creative suite. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.8.6-0ubuntu1 (utopic), package size 9 kB, installed size 81 kB | 14:16 |
| FlameReaper-PC | alvin: I'm not using GNOME, but yeah my other option is fstab | 14:16 |
| FlameReaper-PC | which is already being handled | 14:17 |
| FlameReaper-PC | guess I'll have to deal with the timeouts then :p | 14:17 |
| alvin | Yes, I believe you'll have to try to get your wireless more reliable. | 14:17 |
| alvin | maybe an extender, or homeplug+wifi combination | 14:17 |
| jstaniek | Anyone interested in updating https://userbase.kde.org/Calligra/Download#Kubuntu ? would be great, people are a bit confused if there's support | 14:20 |
| jstaniek | alvin: where can I find 2.8.6 at https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports ? | 14:20 |
| alvin | jstaniek: You don't need backports. Version 2.8.6 is in the main archives. At least if you're using 14.10. | 14:22 |
| alvin | I don't think the people you're looking for are here. This is user support and that is a KDE site. But you could try in #kubuntu-devel | 14:23 |
| jstaniek | alvin: good, so is this description ok: https://paste.kde.org/p58uulnid ? | 14:25 |
| alvin | jstaniek: Looks like it. I checked. 2.8.1 is the version in 14.04 | 14:26 |
| alvin | That reminds me that I need to check Calligra's progress from time to time. I still use LibreOffice, (although I don't have that much need for an Office Suite.) | 14:27 |
| alvin | apt install calligra it is | 14:28 |
| jstaniek | yep, the first step to have it available widely, it seems non-rolling distros get outdated quickly | 14:28 |
| jstaniek | it == always newest version | 14:28 |
| samskiter | hi. struggling to get a second monitor to appear on my machine | 14:38 |
| samskiter | hi. trying to get a second monitor workiong on my machine. how can i clean out any old nvidia stuff? | 14:39 |
| alvin | samskiter: With luck, remove (or move) your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file if there is one, and you're done. What driver? | 14:44 |
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| samskiter | alvin its an nvidia proprietary driver. just managed to find what i had an remove it (nvidia-304) | 14:45 |
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| alvin | That used to be jockey, but I have no idea how the new program is called. I used jockey-text before permanently switching to nouveau | 14:47 |
| samskiter | yea iw as getting an error about jockey | 14:47 |
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| BluesKaj | samskiter, which kubuntu version ...jockey is depracated on the later versions | 14:49 |
| BluesKaj | samskiter, which kubuntu version ...jockey is depracated on the later versions | 14:50 |
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| alvin | BluesKaj: Any idea what the new command is? | 14:50 |
| samskiter | alvin: i had no xorg.conf file | 14:55 |
| alvin | That's good. It's easier. | 14:55 |
| samskiter | should it just be a case of restarting x to get it to pick up the externam? | 14:56 |
| samskiter | external* | 14:56 |
| samskiter | alvin: xrandr shows a 'virtual' monitor as disconnected and a VGA as disconnected | 14:59 |
| samskiter | which of those wouldbe my hdmi port? | 14:59 |
| alvin | LVDS I think. Those names depend on the driver. Have you tried the KDE System Settings? | 14:59 |
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| BluesKaj | alvin, i just look in system settings>driver manager>recommended drivers | 15:03 |
| alvin | Yeah, me too. But I like doing stuff like that from the command line. | 15:04 |
| alvin | Jockey-cli was slow, but it worked | 15:04 |
| BluesKaj | alvin, the cli just launches the same app ...what's the difference | 15:16 |
| alvin | BluesKaj: No, jockey-cli could be run without a running X server | 15:21 |
| BluesKaj | so you run it in the tty/vt ? | 15:22 |
| alvin | indeed | 15:24 |
| alvin | Wel, *ran :-) | 15:24 |
| BluesKaj | well alvin I don't see the point of installing from the cli without X, it doesn't make a bit of difference for graphics drivers, unless your gpu drivers are broken and need a different driver, but to each his own | 15:28 |
| alvin | Exactly! That's a very good reason. That way, you can easily switch drivers. Times are better now, but I've remember configuring X before autoconfiguration, evdev, etc,... I'm the kind of person that prefers to boot to a TTY, and then uses startx. (Ok, I'm not doing that on Kubuntu, but I like to be able to do it.) | 15:31 |
| BluesKaj | startx isn't the correct command anymore, the correct method is to restart the display manager, most likely lightdm | 15:35 |
| * alvin doesn't need display managers :-p | 15:38 | |
| alvin | There's a sticker on the box next to me: X - indirect servername to launch the XDMCP chooser | 15:38 |
| alvin | I admit to be curious to what Wayland will offer though. | 15:39 |
| BluesKaj | you need the display manger/greeter to login unles you login from the the vt/tty | 15:39 |
| BluesKaj | ok , stuff to do for a while ...bbl | 15:41 |
| mdlpe | hello, i made a fresh install of Kubuntu 1404, somedy used optimus vidéo card ? | 16:12 |
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| samskiter | my system is totally messed up now. i installed a driver from the NVIDIA site and got a resolution of 640x 480. uninstaled it and got caught in a loginscreen loop. i've reinstalled it now , but I'm still stuck at this resolution. how can i clear out everything and get back to something sane | 16:51 |
| vladimir_ | Hello | 16:55 |
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| vladimir_ | Hello! How're U doing? | 16:58 |
| yossarianuk | hey ! | 17:07 |
| yossarianuk | good | 17:07 |
| noah | my touchpad isn't working | 19:08 |
| noah | tolszak: hello? | 19:12 |
| krytarik | !details | noah | 19:13 |
| ubottu | noah: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel) | 19:13 |
| noah | ubottu: you still there? I was over at the #ubuntu channel and didn't see your message. | 19:20 |
| ubottu | noah: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 19:20 |
| noah | krytarik: you still there? I was over at the #ubuntu channel and didn't see your message. | 19:20 |
| krytarik | noah: Well, you can see *now*. :) | 19:21 |
| noah | krytarik: yep. So my touchpad was working and then I accidentally pressed Ctrl-{F1,F2,F3, or F4 I forget) instead of Ctrl-F5. | 19:22 |
| noah | krytarik: It stopped working, and I though the computer was hung but maybe I just though that because the mousepad stopped working... Anyway, I restarted the computer w/ the keyboard and now Kubuntu says "No touchpad found" in Touchpad in Input Devices | 19:24 |
| noah | krytarik: hello? | 19:30 |
| simplify | #ubuntu-kernel | 19:37 |
| simplify | opps | 19:37 |
| genii | Hm | 19:41 |
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| delt | Hello | 21:54 |
| delt | trying kubuntu in a VM.... so far, really nice system! | 21:55 |
| delt | but it really should include gcc in the default install... at least VirtualBox guest additions depends on it, and probably other stuff as well. | 21:55 |
| delt | it doesn't show up in the software center, and getting it from the command-line with apt-get is really not user-friendly for beginners. | 21:57 |
| delt | anyway, just my $0.02 =) | 21:57 |
| keithzg | delt: Well, the VirtualBox guest additions are the ones doing things wrong, honestly, since they aren't installing as a .deb! If they were, they could properly proclaim what their dependencies are. | 21:59 |
| keithzg | Although yeah, from my perspective I outright wish that the build-essential metapackage was default, heh. | 21:59 |
| keithzg | If I'm installing kubuntu-desktop, I'm expecting the *full* dekstop, and how is it a full desktop without compilers? ;) | 22:00 |
| delt | keithzg: yeah but it needs to build a kernel module, which is going to be different for each machine, or a headache to maintain with all the different kernel versions and builds | 22:00 |
| keithzg | delt: that's fair enough, but again, then it should ship as a .deb that depends on gcc so that when it's installed and then runs to compile the kernel module that it can rely on gcc being there! | 22:03 |
| delt | keithzg: good point | 22:04 |
| keithzg | In fairness, the main VirtualBox package *does* recommend gcc; the problem is that in this day and age of GUI package managers, the recommends are generally just unseen and ignored, heh. | 22:04 |
| delt | anyway, i personally don't use KDE, but being used to setup machines for other people, i can appreciate a good OS when i see one =) | 22:08 |
| delt | just wanted to share my $0.02... peace o/ | 22:09 |
| keithzg | :) | 22:10 |
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| Roey | hello all | 22:29 |
| Roey | anyone here? | 22:29 |
| keithzg | Yes and no ;) | 22:37 |
| keithzg | If ya have a question, generally best to just ask it, and if anyone has ideas or answers they'll chime in. | 22:38 |
| Roey | Keithy | 22:39 |
| Roey | ok.; | 22:39 |
| Roey | my system is SO SLOW after I upgraded from 14.04 -> 14.10. I want to re-install a clean thing. | 22:39 |
| Roey | a clean installation. | 22:39 |
| Roey | I use BTRFS, where @home is mounted on /home and @ is mounted on / | 22:40 |
| Roey | if I re-install, how do I keep @home from getting obliterated but ensure that @ gets overwritten? | 22:41 |
| Roey | keithzg: ^ | 22:41 |
| keithzg | Uhhh hmmm. I'm not sure that the installer actually understands btrfs subvolumes, or at least not automatically. Might be a better plan though to just figure out *why* it's going slow. | 22:42 |
| keithzg | Either that, or just back up your home dir and then restore it afterwards. | 22:43 |
| keithzg | Is there any indication that something is hogging a lot of resources if you look at, say, KSysGuard? | 22:44 |
| keithzg | Roey: ^ | 22:44 |
| Roey | ok, so: | 22:47 |
| Roey | keithzg: sorry, I was AFK | 22:47 |
| Roey | keithzg: I've done the following: | 22:47 |
| Roey | 1) ran 'top' to figure out which process is hogging the CPU; | 22:48 |
| Roey | it was firefox, and also amarok, when I was using amarok. | 22:48 |
| Roey | They were both consuming 100+% CPU time | 22:48 |
| Roey | I tried vmstat l at the suggestion of one of the other helpers here | 22:48 |
| Roey | I tried strace -p $firefox_pid | 22:48 |
| Roey | to see if it's making any calls that are taking long | 22:49 |
| Roey | but it was too voluminous | 22:49 |
| Roey | I tried moving ~/.firefox out of the way and starting fresh, | 22:49 |
| Roey | but it is still slow. | 22:49 |
| Roey | I tried logging in as a different user, but it was still slow. | 22:49 |
| Roey | it happened once I upgraded from 14.04 -> 14.10 as I said before. You note that it's much easier to just figure out the cause of the slowden than reinstall fresh. Okay, I'm down with that. | 22:50 |
| Roey | (Because otherwise I'd have to re-configure and re-secure a fresh installation) | 22:50 |
| Roey | keithzg: ^ | 22:50 |
| keithzg | Hmm, interesting. | 22:53 |
| keithzg | Is there anything taking up a ton of RAM? | 22:54 |
| keithzg | Although I can't quite think of what would create the specific symptoms you've experienced. | 22:55 |
| Roey | hmm | 22:55 |
| Roey | well firefox is taking 8% RAM | 22:55 |
| Roey | I have 8 GB | 22:55 |
| keithzg | (If you *are* going to reinstall you can always just dump your list of packages and feed it back in again to automatically reinstall them, though, which should save a bunch of time.) | 22:55 |
| Roey | oh, interesting. | 22:56 |
| Roey | OK then. | 22:56 |
| Roey | Wellll I have some packages that I downloaded | 22:56 |
| Roey | like python odf | 22:56 |
| Roey | that I got with pip | 22:56 |
| Roey | keithzg: I looked for what is eating RAM | 22:56 |
| Roey | and didn't really fidn it | 22:56 |
| Roey | I have ~4GB as buffers | 22:57 |
| Roey | and only 500MB of swap being used | 22:57 |
| keithzg | Hmm, so it's not that it's crunching along trying to offload to swap, yeah. | 23:01 |
| Roey | right right | 23:06 |
| Roey | keithzg: good insight :) | 23:07 |
| keithzg | Roey: I can't say I can think of anything obvious to test, then. So, if you do go the reinstall route, take a gander at https://wiki.debian.org/ListInstalledPackages for how to dump and then restore a list of packages. | 23:09 |
| Roey | ok | 23:10 |
| Roey | thanks very much! | 23:10 |
| keithzg | Mostly it's "dpkg --get-selections > installed-software.log" to dump your current setup, then "dpkg --set-selections < installed-software.log" to tell the system what you want installed and "apt-get dselect-upgrade" to act upon those intentions :) | 23:11 |
| Roey | oh that's interesting ninja action | 23:12 |
| Roey | I've been with Debian since 1999 or so and have wrestled many gorillas, but this is new to me | 23:12 |
| Roey | keithzg: thanks :) | 23:12 |
| keithzg | Yeah, I've had to do that before when encountering major filesystem corruption but the disk drive itself was fine. No problem, Roey, best of luck! | 23:12 |
| * keithzg has gotta run | 23:12 | |
| Roey | aye, ciao! | 23:12 |
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