[00:31] <Josh^> what is the white button at the top left of my windows?
[00:31] <Josh^> it doesn't seem to do anything
[00:35] <valorie> Josh^: is it a circle with a dot in the middle?
[00:35] <Josh^> valorie, yes
[00:35] <valorie> ok, that is the button that allows the application window you are using to be seen on either all activities or all virtual desktops
[00:36] <valorie> I think the latter
[00:36] <valorie> in general, if you don't use virt desktops, we're removed it in kubuntu
[00:36] <Josh^> interesting, is there a way to make it not show up?
[00:36] <Josh^> I don't usually use other "Activities"
[00:37] <valorie> I believe in systemsettings you can choose to display only one desktop, 2, 4, 8 etc.
[00:38] <valorie> if you choose one, the button will disappear, at least in kub. .... 14.04 and on I think
[00:40] <Josh^> thanks valorie :)
[00:42] <valorie> yw
[00:42] <TheFakeazneD525> Sysinfo for 'lcom': Running inside KDE 4.14.2 on Ubuntu 14.10 (Utopic Unicorn) powered by Linux 3.16.0-25-generic, CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E6750 @ 2.66GHz at 1998-2664/2664 MHz, RAM: 2966/3952 MB, Storage: 38/282 GB, 225 procs, 4.67h up
[00:42] <TheFakeazneD525> I'm on utopic finally :D
[00:43] <valorie> welcome to the future!
[00:43] <valorie> Sysinfo for 'valorie-HP-Pavilion-dv7-Notebook-PC': Running inside KDE 4.14.2 on Ubuntu 14.10 (Utopic Unicorn) powered by Linux 3.16.0-25-generic, CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3610QM CPU @ 2.30GHz at 1221-1693/3300 MHz, RAM: 7724/7883 MB, Storage: 414/784 GB, 321 procs, 195.15h up
[00:44] <TheFakeazneD525> I'm not running the KF5 spin though :P
[00:44]  * valorie is also running plasma 5
[00:44] <TheFakeazneD525> maybe by january though
[00:45] <valorie> maybe
[00:45] <valorie> some of the bugs are getting fixed
[00:45] <valorie> good enough for everyday use for me, but not for everybody
[00:48]  * TheFakeazneD525 nods
[00:51] <TheFakeazneD525> valorie: so *buntu is getting ffmpeg back \o/
[00:57] <Josh^>  HexChat: 2.9.6 ** OS: Linux 3.13.0-40-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Debian jessie/sid ** CPU: 4 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3230M CPU @ 2.60GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1.20GHz ** RAM: Physical: 5.7GB, 77.1% free ** Disk: Total: 205.7GB, 91.0% free ** VGA: 8086:0166 ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH ** Ethernet: 10ec:8168 ** Uptime: 4h 54m 39s **
[00:57] <Josh^> hm, well then
[01:04] <littlegirl> Hey there, I'm running Kubuntu 12.04 Precise Pangolin and got some updates today, and ever since then I'm spontaneously logged out and sitting at the log-in screen every time the screensaver tries to kick in. The screensaver is set to go off after 5 minutes of inactivity. If I try to go into system settings in the GUI to uncheck the box that tells the screensaver to come on, I get instantly logged out before I have time to uncheck
[01:04] <littlegirl> the box and hit Apply. Is there a command line way I can uncheck that box?
[01:10] <littlegirl> Hey there, I'm running Kubuntu 12.04 Precise Pangolin and got some updates today, and ever since then I'm spontaneously logged out and sitting at the log-in screen every time the screensaver tries to kick in. The screensaver is set to go off after 5 minutes of inactivity. If I try to go into system settings in the GUI to uncheck the box that tells the screensaver to come on, I get instantly logged out before I have time to uncheck
[01:10] <littlegirl> the box and hit Apply. Is there a command line way I can uncheck that box?
[01:14] <littlegirl> Is there a command line way to change the screensaver settings?
[01:18] <littlegirl> Thanks for the help.
[01:28] <keithzg> littlegirl: I think that's configured in .kde/share/config/kscreansaver
[01:28] <keithzg> err wait, typo on my part heh
[01:30] <keithzg> ~/.kde/share/config/kscreensaverrc
[02:10] <Squidward> !ops | waaaaaaaaaaa
[02:19] <Roey> hey all
[02:19] <Roey> lordievader: like right now, Amarok is operating with 134% CPU time as given by 'top'
[02:19] <Roey> this is insane
[02:19] <Roey> Amarok is just not responsive at all to clicks
[02:19] <Roey> Firefox is not response to clicks when it has like 8 tabs open
[02:20] <Roey> If I re-install, I need to prevent losing my @home, which is a subvol on the BTRFS partition that also holds @.
[03:27] <user1397> how do you enable spanish characters? more specifically, how do you make a spanish n (with the tilde).  I remmeber on windows all you had to do was Alt+164
[03:33] <keithzg> user1397: Personally I just always call up a character map, but to be able to do some sort of Key+otherkeys to write a special character, you'll probably have to go into the advanced keyboard settings and enable a compose key.
[03:35] <keithzg> user1397: Once you have a compose key set up, you can look in /usr/share/X11/locale/en_US.UTF-8/Compose for the default mapping (assuming your locale is set to en_US.UTF-8; adjust as necessary!) for how to get each character.
[03:36] <keithzg> See https://userbase.kde.org/Tutorials/ComposeKey perhaps if that isn't clear.
[03:44] <user1397> keithzg: gotcha, thanks!
[04:06] <user1397> i figured the easiest thing for me actually is to just add spanish keyboard in settings, and just switch between english and spanish in the taskbar
[04:10] <user1397> also, what's the best way to slow down my scroll speed on my trackpad?  i tried to mes around with the trackpad settings in system settings but wasn't having much luck. anyone else have this problem?
[04:27] <naccis> i am new to linux i really could use a little help getting my iphone and ipad to connect
[04:29] <naccis> i am running kubuntu 14.04 all updates have been done.  i am trying to connect to the ipad and it seems to cause a system crash
[04:31] <naccis> any takers?
[06:45] <fego> 3
[07:11] <soee> good morning
[08:23] <lordievader> Good morning.
[11:48] <alket> Hi, im running kde telepathy , sometimes when someone writes me on GTalk , windows pops but there is no message , what could it be ?
[12:08] <alket> yeah , one thing I know about KDE is that the support is almost non-existent
[12:08] <alket> such a great software, such a low support
[12:08] <hateball> That's unfortunate
[12:09] <hateball> You could try #kde when this channel is idle
[12:09] <alket> all kde channels are idle, all time
[12:16] <DansTaFace> hey coucou la dedans :)
[12:20] <DansTaFace> personne peu me dire comment on se connect sur un autre serveur irc ?
[12:21] <hateball> !fr
[12:22] <DansTaFace> merci super gentil ;)
[12:22] <DansTaFace> good morning my friend
[12:22] <DansTaFace> bye bye
[12:42] <JunkHunk> hello how to configure an old logitech keyboard? though it looks like working volume controls won't do anything I need to use applications or sound menus to control volume
[12:44] <hateball> JunkHunk: what do you mean "looks like working" ?
[12:45] <hateball> does pressing the keys bring up the OSD indicating volume changes?
[12:47] <JunkHunk> hateball I mean when I operate volume controls in the keyboard a bar appears on screen mesuring the sound as I go up and down but it does nothing it has no effect
[12:48] <JunkHunk> its a logitech /Y-BN52
[12:49] <JunkHunk> I didnt find that model in kubuntu system preferences...it was working with the default and it is working with the logitech internet elite keyboard set but...not quite there yet
[12:49] <hateball> JunkHunk: can you edit global shortcuts?
[12:50] <JunkHunk> hmmm
[12:50] <hateball> and choose component kmix, then try reassigning the shortcuts
[12:50] <hateball> see if it picks up your keys
[12:50] <JunkHunk> I think it has something to do with sound config
[12:50] <JunkHunk> its the only thing not working
[12:51] <hateball> make sure it's using the right "main channel"
[12:51] <hateball> rightclick kmix in tray
[12:53] <JunkHunk> ouch
[12:53] <JunkHunk> you nailed
[12:54] <JunkHunk> I was using the graphics card HDMI channel which is not plugged
[12:54] <JunkHunk> cool
[12:54] <JunkHunk> depeche mode sounds cool now
[12:54] <JunkHunk> hateball you might not like slopes
[12:55] <JunkHunk> but balls??
[12:55] <JunkHunk> balls are fun!!!
[13:12] <hateball> xD
[13:19] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[13:22] <petsounds> hi. where do i find config file for kmail?
[13:32] <darokthar> https://userbase.kde.org/Kmail/Configuring_Kmail#Options_without_a_user_interface_representation
[13:51] <petsounds> darokthar: thx
[13:59] <EvilRoey> Good morning all.
[14:00] <FlameReaper-PC> Is it me or is it that CIFS file mounting has this one problem
[14:01] <FlameReaper-PC> where if a mounted share's node is down
[14:01] <FlameReaper-PC> connection error or what have you
[14:01] <FlameReaper-PC> and the share is still mounted
[14:01] <FlameReaper-PC> any attempts to do file browsing hangs almost indefinitely
[14:01] <alvin> The year is 2014. I'm trying to find horizsync and vertrefresh of a monitor.... (that's a sign we need a bigger budget)
[14:02] <FlameReaper-PC> alvin: which reminds me, tearing is quite frequent
[14:02] <alvin> FlameReaper-PC: You're describing NFS :-) How is the share mounted? On your filesystem, or with KIO?
[14:02] <FlameReaper-PC> alvin: Hmm, not sure, all I can describe is that I use a program to handle mounting
[14:02] <FlameReaper-PC> smb4k it is
[14:03] <alvin> FlameReaper-PC: Oh, the issue here is old hardware. Very old hardware. < 2000.
[14:03] <alvin> Ah, I've never used that.
[14:04] <alvin> I always try to use NFS, and when I need SMB, usually kio is easy enough. Sometimes, I do the stuff manually too. Ehm, mount -t cifs (or is it smbfs again?) -o username=me //server/share /mnt
[14:04] <FlameReaper-PC> alvin: well before I used that, I followed some instructions in which it's to write some mount commands into the /etc/fstab file
[14:04] <alvin> there are more options, but that's basically it.
[14:05] <FlameReaper-PC> ... and yeah the same common problem whenever a connection lag/disconnection occurs
[14:05] <FlameReaper-PC> yeah that mount command is what I've used before I decided to use the program so that the process becomes one-click
[14:05] <alvin> I think that can be expected, no? Are there file sharing protocols who don't have trouble with that?
[14:06] <BluesKaj> cifs is usually used with samba /smb afaik
[14:06] <FlameReaper-PC> alvin: yeah but it's quite hurting when KDE opens the open file dialogue and it ends up not responding due to the mount being gone due to connection errors
[14:06] <alvin> If that's what you want, you can still add everything to /etc/fstab, and use the noauto,user options. You'll see the shares in Dolphin, and they will only be mounted when clicked upon.
[14:06] <FlameReaper-PC> ... maybe I should consider getting some extra LAN cables and stop depending on wireless to handle my connections
[14:07] <alvin> You should :-) KDE can't know that the share disconnected, unless it gets a timeout. And that, by definition, takes time.
[14:07] <FlameReaper-PC> alvin: I interpret "takes time" as in "forever" :p
[14:08] <FlameReaper-PC> at least I have a 8-port hub that I should utilize for my room
[14:08] <alvin> You should try NFS. Takes days :-)
[14:08] <FlameReaper-PC> alvin: wow
[14:08] <FlameReaper-PC> Now that makes me wonder about production studios
[14:08] <FlameReaper-PC> one I've went to uses NFS
[14:09] <alvin> 2 days ago, I installed a new FreeNAS system, imported the config, rebooted a few times, and saw that I forgot to unmount all NFS clients. After the whole upgrade process, all drives were back again. No issues, but very unresponsive during the downtime.
[14:09] <FlameReaper-PC> I imagine it'll be quite hell whenever a deadline for productions comes near and the NFS suddenly decides to sleep...
[14:10] <alvin> Yes, that's not good. I avoid wireless.
[14:11] <alvin> That's nice for tablets, but not for production stuff with fileservers.
[14:11] <alvin> FlameReaper-PC: Have you tried kio?
[14:11] <alvin> It's not fit for everything, but very handy.
[14:12] <alvin> LibreOffice doesn't like it too much. Pure KDE software usually has no trouble with it.
[14:12] <FlameReaper-PC> alvin: how do I use it?
[14:12] <FlameReaper-PC> by the way that's also a problem
[14:13] <alvin> Easy. In dolphin smb://fileserver
[14:13] <FlameReaper-PC> since I'm mounting my music folders for Audacious to play it
[14:13] <FlameReaper-PC> and Audacious is a GTK+ program
[14:13] <alvin> In Dolphin also: remote:/ You can create Network Folder links to all your favourite servers.
[14:13] <alvin> Hmmm
[14:14] <alvin> I don't know. You'll have to try. Maybe it works, but that's typically something where I would use fstab. (or something like daap when possible)
[14:15] <alvin> Gnome has something similar though.
[14:15] <alvin> gvfs?
[14:15] <jstaniek> hmm what should I enter about Kubuntu here? is there calligra for it? kubuntu-CI?
[14:16] <jstaniek> https://userbase.kde.org/Calligra/Download
[14:16] <jstaniek> (I mean recent versions > 2.8.5)
[14:16] <FlameReaper-PC> jstaniek: Wouldn't calligra be available from the backports PPA
[14:16] <FlameReaper-PC> oh
[14:16] <FlameReaper-PC> shouldn't it already be there
[14:16] <alvin> !info calligra
[14:16] <FlameReaper-PC> alvin: I'm not using GNOME, but yeah my other option is fstab
[14:17] <FlameReaper-PC> which is already being handled
[14:17] <FlameReaper-PC> guess I'll have to deal with the timeouts then :p
[14:17] <alvin> Yes, I believe you'll have to try to get your wireless more reliable.
[14:17] <alvin> maybe an extender, or homeplug+wifi combination
[14:20] <jstaniek> Anyone interested in updating https://userbase.kde.org/Calligra/Download#Kubuntu ? would be great, people are a bit confused if there's support
[14:20] <jstaniek> alvin: where can I find 2.8.6 at https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports  ?
[14:22] <alvin> jstaniek: You don't need backports. Version 2.8.6 is in the main archives. At least if you're using 14.10.
[14:23] <alvin> I don't think the people you're looking for are here. This is user support and that is a KDE site. But you could try in #kubuntu-devel
[14:25] <jstaniek> alvin: good, so is this description ok: https://paste.kde.org/p58uulnid ?
[14:26] <alvin> jstaniek: Looks like it. I checked. 2.8.1 is the version in 14.04
[14:27] <alvin> That reminds me that I need to check Calligra's progress from time to time. I still use LibreOffice, (although I don't have that much need for an Office Suite.)
[14:28] <alvin> apt install calligra it is
[14:28] <jstaniek> yep, the first step to have it available widely, it seems non-rolling distros get outdated quickly
[14:28] <jstaniek> it == always newest version
[14:38] <samskiter> hi. struggling to get a second monitor to appear on my machine
[14:39] <samskiter> hi. trying to get a second monitor workiong on my machine. how can i clean out any old nvidia stuff?
[14:44] <alvin> samskiter: With luck, remove (or move) your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file if there is one, and you're done. What driver?
[14:45] <samskiter> alvin its an nvidia proprietary driver. just managed to find what i had an remove it (nvidia-304)
[14:47] <alvin> That used to be jockey, but I have no idea how the new program is called. I used jockey-text before permanently switching to nouveau
[14:47] <samskiter> yea iw as getting an error about jockey
[14:49] <BluesKaj> samskiter, which kubuntu version ...jockey is depracated on the later versions
[14:50] <BluesKaj> samskiter, which kubuntu version ...jockey is depracated on the later versions
[14:50] <alvin> BluesKaj: Any idea what the new command is?
[14:55] <samskiter> alvin: i had no xorg.conf file
[14:55] <alvin> That's good. It's easier.
[14:56] <samskiter> should it just be a case of restarting x to get it to pick up the externam?
[14:56] <samskiter> external*
[14:59] <samskiter> alvin: xrandr shows a 'virtual' monitor as disconnected and a VGA as disconnected
[14:59] <samskiter> which of those wouldbe my hdmi port?
[14:59] <alvin> LVDS I think. Those names depend on the driver. Have you tried the KDE System Settings?
[15:03] <BluesKaj> alvin, i just look in system settings>driver manager>recommended drivers
[15:04] <alvin> Yeah, me too. But I like doing stuff like that from the command line.
[15:04] <alvin> Jockey-cli was slow, but it worked
[15:16] <BluesKaj> alvin, the cli just launches the same app ...what's the difference
[15:21] <alvin> BluesKaj: No, jockey-cli could be run without a running X server
[15:22] <BluesKaj> so you run it in the tty/vt ?
[15:24] <alvin> indeed
[15:24] <alvin> Wel, *ran :-)
[15:28] <BluesKaj> well alvin I don't see the point of installing from the cli without X, it doesn't make a bit of difference for graphics drivers, unless your gpu drivers are broken and need a different driver, but to each his own
[15:31] <alvin> Exactly! That's a very good reason. That way, you can easily switch drivers. Times are better now, but I've remember configuring X before autoconfiguration, evdev, etc,... I'm the kind of person that prefers to boot to a TTY, and then uses startx. (Ok, I'm not doing that on Kubuntu, but I like to be able to do it.)
[15:35] <BluesKaj> startx isn't the correct command anymore, the correct method is to restart the display manager, most likely lightdm
[15:38]  * alvin doesn't need display managers :-p
[15:38] <alvin> There's a sticker on the box next to me: X - indirect servername to launch the XDMCP chooser
[15:39] <alvin> I admit to be curious to what Wayland will offer though.
[15:39] <BluesKaj> you need the display manger/greeter to login unles you login from the the vt/tty
[15:41] <BluesKaj> ok , stuff to do for a while ...bbl
[16:12] <mdlpe> hello, i made a fresh install of Kubuntu 1404, somedy used optimus vidéo card ?
[16:51] <samskiter> my system is totally messed up now. i installed a driver from the NVIDIA site and got a resolution of 640x 480. uninstaled it and got caught in a loginscreen loop. i've reinstalled it now , but I'm still stuck at this resolution. how can i clear out everything and get back to something sane
[16:55] <vladimir_> Hello
[16:58] <vladimir_> Hello! How're U doing?
[17:07] <yossarianuk> hey !
[17:07] <yossarianuk> good
[19:08] <noah> my touchpad isn't working
[19:12] <noah> tolszak: hello?
[19:13] <krytarik> !details | noah
[19:20] <noah> ubottu: you still there? I was over at the #ubuntu channel and didn't see your message.
[19:20] <noah> krytarik: you still there? I was over at the #ubuntu channel and didn't see your message.
[19:21] <krytarik> noah: Well, you can see *now*. :)
[19:22] <noah> krytarik: yep. So my touchpad was working and then I accidentally pressed Ctrl-{F1,F2,F3, or F4 I forget) instead of Ctrl-F5.
[19:24] <noah> krytarik: It stopped working, and I though the computer was hung but maybe I just though that because the mousepad stopped working... Anyway, I restarted the computer w/ the keyboard and now Kubuntu says "No touchpad found" in Touchpad in Input Devices
[19:30] <noah> krytarik: hello?
[19:37] <simplify> #ubuntu-kernel
[19:37] <simplify> opps
[19:41] <genii> Hm
[21:54] <delt> Hello
[21:55] <delt> trying kubuntu in a VM.... so far, really nice system!
[21:55] <delt> but it really should include gcc in the default install... at least VirtualBox guest additions depends on it, and probably other stuff as well.
[21:57] <delt> it doesn't show up in the software center, and getting it from the command-line with apt-get is really not user-friendly for beginners.
[21:57] <delt> anyway, just my $0.02 =)
[21:59] <keithzg> delt: Well, the VirtualBox guest additions are the ones doing things wrong, honestly, since they aren't installing as a .deb! If they were, they could properly proclaim what their dependencies are.
[21:59] <keithzg> Although yeah, from my perspective I outright wish that the build-essential metapackage was default, heh.
[22:00] <keithzg> If I'm installing kubuntu-desktop, I'm expecting the *full* dekstop, and how is it a full desktop without compilers? ;)
[22:00] <delt> keithzg: yeah but it needs to build a kernel module, which is going to be different for each machine, or a headache to maintain with all the different kernel versions and builds
[22:03] <keithzg> delt: that's fair enough, but again, then it should ship as a .deb that depends on gcc so that when it's installed and then runs to compile the kernel module that it can rely on gcc being there!
[22:04] <delt> keithzg: good point
[22:04] <keithzg> In fairness, the main VirtualBox package *does* recommend gcc; the problem is that in this day and age of GUI package managers, the recommends are generally just unseen and ignored, heh.
[22:08] <delt> anyway, i personally don't use KDE, but being used to setup machines for other people, i can appreciate a good OS when i see one =)
[22:09] <delt> just wanted to share my $0.02... peace  o/
[22:10] <keithzg> :)
[22:29] <Roey> hello all
[22:29] <Roey> anyone here?
[22:37] <keithzg> Yes and no ;)
[22:38] <keithzg> If ya have a question, generally best to just ask it, and if anyone has ideas or answers they'll chime in.
[22:39] <Roey> Keithy
[22:39] <Roey> ok.;
[22:39] <Roey> my system is SO SLOW after I upgraded from 14.04 -> 14.10.  I want to re-install a clean thing.
[22:39] <Roey> a clean installation.
[22:40] <Roey> I use BTRFS, where @home is mounted on /home and @ is mounted on /
[22:41] <Roey> if I re-install, how do I keep @home from getting obliterated but ensure that @ gets overwritten?
[22:41] <Roey> keithzg:  ^
[22:42] <keithzg> Uhhh hmmm. I'm not sure that the installer actually understands btrfs subvolumes, or at least not automatically. Might be a better plan though to just figure out *why* it's going slow.
[22:43] <keithzg> Either that, or just back up your home dir and then restore it afterwards.
[22:44] <keithzg> Is there any indication that something is hogging a lot of resources if you look at, say, KSysGuard?
[22:44] <keithzg> Roey: ^
[22:47] <Roey> ok, so:
[22:47] <Roey> keithzg:  sorry, I was AFK
[22:47] <Roey> keithzg:  I've done the following:
[22:48] <Roey> 1) ran 'top' to figure out which process is hogging the CPU;
[22:48] <Roey> it was firefox, and also amarok, when I was using amarok.
[22:48] <Roey> They were both consuming 100+% CPU time
[22:48] <Roey> I tried vmstat l  at the suggestion of one of the other helpers here
[22:48] <Roey> I tried strace -p $firefox_pid
[22:49] <Roey> to see if it's making any calls that are taking long
[22:49] <Roey> but it was too voluminous
[22:49] <Roey> I tried moving ~/.firefox out of the way and starting fresh,
[22:49] <Roey> but it is still slow.
[22:49] <Roey> I tried logging in as a different user, but it was still slow.
[22:50] <Roey> it happened once I upgraded from 14.04 -> 14.10 as I said before.  You note that it's much easier to just figure out the cause of the slowden than reinstall fresh.  Okay, I'm down with that.
[22:50] <Roey> (Because otherwise I'd have to re-configure and re-secure a fresh installation)
[22:50] <Roey> keithzg:  ^
[22:53] <keithzg> Hmm, interesting.
[22:54] <keithzg> Is there anything taking up a ton of RAM?
[22:55] <keithzg> Although I can't quite think of what would create the specific symptoms you've experienced.
[22:55] <Roey> hmm
[22:55] <Roey> well firefox is taking 8% RAM
[22:55] <Roey> I have 8 GB
[22:55] <keithzg> (If you *are* going to reinstall you can always just dump your list of packages and feed it back in again to automatically reinstall them, though, which should save a bunch of time.)
[22:56] <Roey> oh, interesting.
[22:56] <Roey> OK then.
[22:56] <Roey> Wellll I have some packages that I downloaded
[22:56] <Roey> like python odf
[22:56] <Roey> that I got with pip
[22:56] <Roey> keithzg:  I looked for what is eating RAM
[22:56] <Roey> and didn't really fidn it
[22:57] <Roey> I have ~4GB as buffers
[22:57] <Roey> and only 500MB of swap being used
[23:01] <keithzg> Hmm, so it's not that it's crunching along trying to offload to swap, yeah.
[23:06] <Roey> right right
[23:07] <Roey> keithzg: good insight :)
[23:09] <keithzg> Roey: I can't say I can think of anything obvious to test, then. So, if you do go the reinstall route, take a gander at https://wiki.debian.org/ListInstalledPackages for how to dump and then restore a list of packages.
[23:10] <Roey> ok
[23:10] <Roey> thanks very much!
[23:11] <keithzg> Mostly it's "dpkg --get-selections > installed-software.log" to dump your current setup, then "dpkg --set-selections < installed-software.log" to tell the system what you want installed and "apt-get dselect-upgrade" to act upon those intentions :)
[23:12] <Roey> oh that's interesting ninja action
[23:12] <Roey> I've been with Debian since 1999 or so and have wrestled many gorillas, but this is new to me
[23:12] <Roey> keithzg:  thanks :)
[23:12] <keithzg> Yeah, I've had to do that before when encountering major filesystem corruption but the disk drive itself was fine. No problem, Roey, best of luck!
[23:12]  * keithzg has gotta run
[23:12] <Roey> aye, ciao!