[00:00] But you need to search for "final:" first so that you skip the sequence where it tries every package individually [00:00] BTW for people with ubuntu-archive@snakefruit access, "chdist apt-get 14.09-proposed-armhf install foo" etc. should work [00:00] (can't actually install, but you can have it simulate and then say no) [00:01] That gets back to the weird langpack issue but yeah, also ubuntu-system-settings : Depends: libupower-glib1 [00:01] Is something dire with langpacks in -rtm? [00:02] The most confusing thing is generally that proposed-migration simulates the migration as if all NBS binaries were removed, which you probably know, but it does require telling apt-get that it can't use those ones [00:03] Is rtm just broken in general, even? Wow. Drilling down makes it worse, not better. ;) [00:04] ubuntu-rtm/14.09 does have some uninstallables; I never quite cleared all the chains there [00:04] It's usually not particularly terrible [00:04] * sil2100 just cares for touch in ubuntu-rtm and just wants a new upower there [00:04] Oh, no, I'm mostly just trying to install conflicting things. [00:05] The langpack thing still looks like a bit of a mess, though. [00:05] Yeah, it actually conflicts with the touch langpacks too [00:06] Right. [00:06] So, removing all the conflicts and paring down a bit, I get left with your ubuntu-system-settings dep. [00:06] I think that's all you need to fix here. [00:06] YESSSSS [00:06] That's the best thing I heard today [00:07] It's still building though [00:07] But we'll know for sure after it's done. :P [00:07] I'm smarter than a computer at some things, but not at doing this. [00:08] Future note to self, desktop-next and touch aren't actually coinstallable. [00:08] It would be nice to get britney's interactive hint inspector thing going at some point. [00:08] Cause hey, who would want to try that? [00:08] *sigh* [00:08] Might actually work already, I just haven't tried it. [00:10] cjwatson: Well, remember a couple of years ago when someone tried to lump release infrastructure and launchpad into the same pile and give it all to one (very small) group of developers? [00:10] cjwatson: Congrats, you can take britney with you when you go. ;) [00:11] haha [00:12] I just spent a day merging a year's worth of upstream development into it so that you lot would find it easier to figure out :P [00:13] cjwatson: A day well spent in your self-interest, as it turns out. [00:17] hah [00:39] * sil2100 keeps his fingers crossed [01:12] SUCCESS! [01:13] infinity: thanks for explaining and checking this for me [01:13] In your FACE upower! [01:14] Heh. [01:39] infinity: just a quick question... you don't happen to have the permissions and knowledge to build ubuntu-rtm images? [01:40] Since I suppose slangasek is still in my timezone [01:42] sil2100: I almost certainly have the permissions, but I have not the knowledge. [01:50] Sadly, I can't find anyone mentioning the exact steps anywhere, and there doesn't seem to be anyone with the right knowledge available [01:50] hm, and we disabled the cron job doing ubuntu-rtm auto-builds too [01:51] infinity: don't want to be more of a burden, but maybe you could check what the disabled cronjob was doing? I have no access anywhere there so I can only guess what's going on [01:53] Already poked rsalveti, but he also seems to be away already [02:01] sil2100: So, it was cronned, then disabled, and people have been running it by hand? [02:01] sil2100: If so, I've probably found it. [02:02] infinity: we generally have a build once a day, but ogra_ and the others have been also running it manually (somehow) to trigger builds [02:02] I suppose it's by using the same method [02:02] sil2100: Well, I'll run the obvious thing, and if it turns out I was wrong, someone can yell at me. :P [02:03] Nooo, no one will yell at you for sure, I doubt there's much that can be broken here - besides generating a broken image, which for the -proposed channel is considered 'acceptable' ;p [02:03] Thanks! [02:05] Ok, I need to really EOD now, thanks again for all the help [02:05] o/ [02:05] (if you'll have trouble building the image then just drop that, I guess this could also wait till ogra_ wakes up) [02:06] It was anyway just to have an image with just the upower bits, in cases it would break anything [02:06] But it's well tested on touch since a long time [02:06] o/ === doko__ is now known as doko === plars is now known as plars-afk === plars-afk is now known as plars [22:26] slangasek - https://code.launchpad.net/~brian-murray/ubuntu-archive-tools/sponsors-notification/+merge/244513 === s8321414_ is now known as s8321414