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diddledanthanks to popey my amazon now has a related items list of entirely car stereos00:07
daftykinsXD00:07
diddledanhint. I have no car00:07
daftykinsyou can go in and remove a viewed item to stop it spoiling your recommendations00:07
diddledanalso thanks to popey further down the page is a load of hand-held barcode scanners00:09
daftykinsXD00:12
mapso01:41
mapwatched apprentice01:41
mapwatvched my other show01:41
mapjust gotham to watch now01:42
daftykins:)01:42
daftykinsi tried to buy a new phablet for the boss but it declined at card auth twice =|01:42
mapwhat one u want01:45
diddledangrr01:46
map;]01:46
mapwhat to do01:48
maphm01:48
daftykinsmap: i've decided to pick the Samsung Galaxy Note 3 for the boss01:50
daftykinsi know the Note 4 is out, but the price, lul01:50
ali1234yeah but Note 4 can go in the gear vr02:00
ali1234it's really good02:00
daftykinslol02:01
daftykinshis uses are international business travel, i think going that high-res is a waste of time and will just impact battery02:01
daftykinshe's on a Note 1 right now02:01
daftykinsand Vodafone has been getting him down02:01
ali1234so he wants to play VR games on the plane then -> Note 4 + Gear VR02:01
daftykinssigh.02:03
ali1234it's a no-brainer seriously02:04
daftykinsyes, that VR toys aren't for businessman in their 60s :P02:04
daftykins*men02:05
diddledanlol02:10
diddledaneverything leads to a note 4 + gear vr, ali1234 ?02:10
ali1234yes02:10
daftykinsyou're welcome to enjoy the early adoption antics ;)02:11
diddledanoh dear: http://www.cnet.com/news/makers-of-internet-infrastructure-warn-against-more-regulation/02:17
daftykinsthat pic makes me cry02:19
diddledansir tim berners lee has warned about skynet02:24
diddledanhttp://www.cnet.com/news/web-founder-europes-right-to-be-forgotten-rule-is-dangerous/02:24
diddledanspecificslly: ""The robots are already here, and they're called corporations. Be very very scared," Berners-Lee said. "Don't ask when it will happen. It's already happened."02:25
diddledanArtificial intelligence is slowly creeping into the real world. It's arriving one bit at a time -- a language translator here, some computer vision there. Eventually those pieces will be put together under a controlling system that we can call consciousness, he said.02:25
diddledan"People imagine that a stream of consciousness is going to to be a hard thing to do," something as complex as our notion of the soul, Berners-Lee said. "I have a horrible feeling a stream of consciousness is going to be a few lines of code on top of the other stuff.""02:25
* m0nkey_ pokes diddledan 02:25
* diddledan giggles02:25
daftykinsif a utility classification doesn't suit funding to ISPs, perhaps some unique classification that maintains neutrality should be imposed02:27
daftykinss/imposed/created/02:28
zmoylan-pibut some isps that are also cable companies and who may want to make their offerings more netflixy would fight that tooth and nail02:29
daftykinsmake them more netflixy?02:31
zmoylan-pithey'd want to be able to give priority to their video on demand service over the likes of netflix.  sorry for bad wording. brain is a few sleeps short of fully awake02:32
daftykinsthat's alright :) ah yes indeed, to prioritise02:34
daftykinsthat is definitely a problem with cable providers02:35
diddledanpretty much all the major ISPs have some form of TV associated in the UK these days02:35
zmoylan-piand then you have mobile providers who are even more twitchy over who gets priority on their limited bandwidth02:36
diddledanI tend to think the opposite to the letter mentioned in that report - without net neutrality what incentive do the isps have in increasing capacity?02:37
daftykinsit's backwards here XD my ISP chose to start doing an IPTV service02:37
diddledanI don't get why ISPs feel the need to get into video streaming02:38
diddledane.g. BT vision02:38
diddledanand talktalks wtfevar it is02:39
zmoylan-pieveryone else is doing it is enough reasons for managers to make sure they have their version02:39
daftykinstoo true02:39
diddledanI read a report about VOD services - about 70% of the available titles in the UK are on VOD but to be able to get your own personal capability to watch that 70% you need to sign up to over 25 different services02:40
zmoylan-pikinda like the early days of tv where there were a bunch of different incompatible services02:41
daftykinsdiddledan: huh? like, film or sport channels via providers etc?02:41
diddledanwhich bit are you huh?ing?02:42
daftykins'you need to sign up to over 25 different services'02:43
diddledanyeah. netflix. amazon prime. etc.02:44
daftykinsoooh now i get you, in order to see all that content02:45
zmoylan-piand soon amc will have their own vod so may be tempted to pull it off other vod services02:45
diddledanyeah, the 70% is aggregated across almost 30 different providers so you need to sign up to them all02:46
diddledanamc?02:46
daftykinsas long as they finally release The Sopranos every season in HD :P02:46
zmoylan-pieach with a 'small' monthly charge02:46
zmoylan-pimakers of mad men, halt and catch fire02:46
daftykinshttp://www.amazon.co.uk/Sopranos-Complete-Collection-Blu-ray-Region/dp/B00K0OZ3Y4/02:47
daftykinsomg it exists at last!02:47
zmoylan-piwell you wait till everyone has the dvd boxset before you release the blu ray :-)02:48
diddledanhttp://gizmodo.com/which-countries-last-the-longest-watching-porn-damn-c-166913918102:49
diddledanSFW02:49
daftykinszmoylan-pi: heh, it stopped airing years ago02:49
zmoylan-pithat doesn't affect the math, wait till dvd sales of series slump before releasing blu ray so you can double charge passionate customers who will buy it again in higher res02:51
zmoylan-piwould explain why really popular shows like sopranos take so long to make it to bluray, yes?02:52
daftykinsyeah i understand that02:53
diddledanoh, amazon, you know me so well. Their email tonight extolls about 70% off party dresses, an electric toothbrush and a job-lot of amazon NiMH rechargeable flatteries02:53
daftykinsi just feel like they would've hitten saturation point forever ago02:54
daftykinsi only kind-of own a bluray player now since i have an Xbox One02:54
diddledanex bone02:54
diddledanthat's something norty with your previous bf/gf?02:54
daftykinsyou're a bad, bad man02:55
zmoylan-pior has the most battery life in an electric toothbrush this side the practical fusion reactor :-)02:56
diddledantoaster science https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN_PK5pXmIY03:17
mapwhos still up then04:23
daftykinsi'm in bed as we speak!04:29
zmoylan-piin bed but awake04:29
zmoylan-piwatching mash04:29
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maphm06:00
mapstarted watvching z nation06:00
mapanyone seen it06:00
mapzmoylan-pi,  i need to write it down..whats that show again :( il save it as a note this time06:00
zmoylan-pihttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabin_Pressure_%28radio_series%2906:49
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MooDoomap: it's good isnt' it07:56
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JamesTaitGood morning all, and happy birthday UNICEF! :-D09:15
bashrcmorning09:24
foobarrywhat happens when you try to apply a patch file and the line number don't match up?09:27
diploAnyone in here tried the Odroid C1 ( Raspberry PI type board )09:35
foobarry"the `-F lines' or `--fuzz=lines' option sets the maximum fuzz factor to lines. " answered my own qu09:36
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.10:06
bashrcmorning10:07
zmoylan-pimorning carbon based lifeforms10:07
isleofmandanMoghrey mie ;)10:11
popeymorning10:13
MooDoomorning10:13
dutchielo10:16
brobostigonmorning10:17
diddledanyawn10:25
bigcalmGood morning peeps :)11:53
MooDoomorning bigcalm11:58
bigcalmGoodness, it actually is11:58
bigcalmHow strange11:58
diddledanthankfully only for another minute11:59
diddledan:-p11:59
zmoylan-pigood nooniness12:00
diddledanhmm, my phone just beeped in a manner it's never beeped before12:00
* diddledan wanders off to investigate12:00
zmoylan-piit's calling out to it's phone bretheren to start the revolution against the humans12:01
zmoylan-pi^puny humans12:01
diddledanyou tube is broken12:12
diddledancan't watch any video12:12
bigcalmMy tube is fine12:13
diddledanhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30lGrarz3MQ <-- 502s here12:13
diddledanit's relevant to zmoylan-pi12:13
bigcalmWorks for me12:13
diddledangrr12:13
diddledangoogle Y U DO DIS?12:14
bigcalmThat's in chromium without flash12:14
bigcalm502 is a gateway issue12:14
diddledanyeah I don't even get that far12:14
diddledanI get google's standard error screen12:14
zmoylan-pi worked here, firefox12:14
foobarrycan anyone assist with a little javascript query please? i have a dropdown menu that changes the image based on the month chosen12:14
foobarryhttp://pastie.org/private/fkyg5wplcfjtbi36uz4aq12:15
bigcalmWorks in firefox with flash as well12:15
foobarryhowever would like this script to be re-usable12:15
diddledanhttps://mrkr.io/IQUh6nssIa12:15
foobarryso when #mainimage = 1.png then a prefix is added, rather than complete substition of text12:15
foobarryat the moment the pastie link has substition12:16
foobarryi can't find a good description of the options of the last line12:16
diddledaneh?12:18
foobarrywhat does $('#mainimage').attr('src',dynamic_src);12:19
foobarrydo?12:19
foobarryreplace src with dynamic src12:19
diddledanchanges the attribute "src" on the element with id "mainimage" to whatever is in dynamic_src variable12:19
foobarryyep12:20
foobarryhow can i do src, prefix+src instead?12:20
diddledanso <img src="moo"> becomes <img src="wtf was in dynamic_src?"12:20
foobarryis it as simple as doing12:20
foobarry$('#mainimage').attr('src',dynamic_src);12:20
foobarrywoops12:20
foobarry$('#mainimage').attr('src',dynamic_src+src)12:21
diddledanno12:21
diddledansrc isn't a variable12:21
diddledanunless you've set it elsewhere?12:21
foobarryno12:21
foobarryi can't see where src comes from12:22
diddledanvar el = $('#mainimage'); el.attr('src', dynamic_src + el.attr('src'));12:23
diddledannote however, if you change it several times each subsequent assignment will add the prefix onto the already prefixed with a different prefix value12:24
foobarrylet me test, thanks12:24
diddledanso in the case of those months and dates: 1st run will make src="2014/01/image.png" and second run will make src="2014/01/2014/0/image.png"12:25
diddledanso you probably don't want to "just prepend a prefix"12:26
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foobarryyeah12:38
foobarry:(12:38
foobarrythe only way i can do it atm is a different .js for each png12:38
foobarrywhich seems non optimal12:38
foobarrycan i do the reverse way and append instead?12:40
diddledantry something like http://paste.ubuntu.com/9475418/12:44
diddledanthe first and last lines aren't strictly necessary12:44
diddledan(I love javascript for it's nesting capability)12:46
diddledana value in a function() {} can be accessed by any function defined within the same outer function12:46
diddledanso function() { var foo="bar"; var bar = function() { alert(foo); } bar(); } will pop up a box saying "bar" when you run the outer function even though the inner function doesn't define the foo variable, because it's scoped from the outer funciton12:48
foobarrythanks a lot. i'll get some lunch and see if i can get my brain around it :)12:49
intrbizdiddledan: most languages have closures12:57
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diddledanintrbiz, php. justsayin13:00
diddledanphp has a hard boundary at the function wall - you can't access variables defined outside the function13:01
diddledanunless they're explicitly defined as "global"13:01
diddledanbut you need to define them as global first and then redefine them as global in the function to pull in their value13:01
intrbizjudging by google PHP 5.3 has closures13:02
diddledanwhat's your definition of a closure?13:03
diddledanand what's googles?13:03
intrbiza function with referenced environment13:03
intrbizso in your JS example bar is a closure, which has a reference to foo13:04
diddledana closure looks to be more complex than just "a function within a function": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closure_%28computer_programming%2913:06
diddledanspecifically a closure is a returned function from a function rather than just a function which happens to exist within a function13:07
diddledanmaybe I'm wrong in that13:11
intrbizat a minium it is closure-like13:11
diddledan"A closure—unlike a plain function pointer—enables a function to access those non-local variables even when invoked outside its immediate lexical scope."13:11
intrbizi fear the semantics could be argued over by accademics till the end of time, but implementation wise, most languages have a form of a function with referenced state13:12
diddledanmy contrived example in of foo=bar alert foo wasn't a closure but the example in the pastebin was at the event handler13:12
intrbizwell, bar is the function pointer, the function itself has a reference to a non-local variable: foo13:13
intrbizthe fact, at implementation it happens by prototyped scopes, is an implementation detail, abstractly it still seems like a closure to me13:14
diddledanmeh, I never actually studied the science of computer-theory - I just like the pattern13:18
intrbizI never did CS either13:19
diddledanheh :-)13:19
intrbizwhich is why the pure semantics don't really interest me13:19
intrbizbut most languages have the same functionality: lambda's, anon classes, anon functions, anon subs, blocks, etc13:20
diddledantheory is all fine for theorists, but engineers need to actually do things13:20
intrbizindeed13:20
intrbizand don't ask is a closure == a object, that seems contentious13:21
diddledanat times I can imagine a CS guy would get bogged down in the "correct" CS way to do something rather than the most sensible13:21
intrbiz:)13:22
foobarryok..13:22
diddledangive them credit for being clever but can another dude actually understand the code that the cs guy wrote?13:22
foobarryi am passing the png name as part of the function13:22
foobarryalthough badly..13:24
diddledanthe pastebin is close to what you need I "think"13:25
foobarryYAY13:25
foobarrydiddledan: i implemented differently but same idea, so thank u :D13:26
diddledan\o/13:27
foobarryi would show the results but they are behind fw and authentication :(13:30
foobarryhttp://pastie.org/private/yilcfoqhv21e0wywegtbq13:33
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foobarrycan patch files contain wildcards?14:03
foobarryfor matching the line to remove14:03
MartijnVdSyou can increase the maximum offset14:07
MartijnVdSfoobarry: man patch -- it's called "fuzz factor"14:07
MartijnVdSno wait.. that's for non-matching context14:08
MartijnVdSfoobarry: what do you want to achieve?14:08
foobarryremove a bunch of lines, but one of the lines might have a varying word14:11
diddledancopy+paste coded?14:12
MartijnVdSfoobarry: you can use sed for that :)14:12
diddledanthis is why encapsulation into reusable components is a good idea :-p14:13
foobarryyes, i've been using sed14:13
MartijnVdS:D diddledan14:14
d3ngarHello! I have recently got a new laptop and installed Ubuntu 14.04. I got this error that sometimes, after stand-by, the keyboard layout changes to US. I do not even have the US keywboard installed! I have seen that there are other people that have had the same issue in previous versions. There is a bug open for 13.10, but I cannot find one for 14.04.14:17
d3ngarShould I open a new bug?14:17
foobarryi have new respect for people that do websites from scratch14:19
foobarryand javascript :S14:19
foobarryd3ngar: isn't there an "also affects" category on the bug?14:19
foobarryparticularly if it is the same one, and not resolved14:19
diddledanjust add a tag for the release codename you're running - trusty14:20
d3ngarIt says that the package is the Gnome-settings-daemon14:21
d3ngarHow do I know this is actually correct>14:21
d3ngar?14:21
d3ngarI'm not sure if it's 100% the same bug, because the other bug runs under the title 'Keyboard layout changing randomly'14:21
daftykinswas it a clean 14.04.1 install? dist-upgrade'd ?14:23
d3ngarClean14:24
popeyBBC QT is going to be "fun" this evening.14:36
diddledanthey got nick griffin?14:36
diddledannigel farage?14:37
diddledaneither/or14:37
directhexfarage vs brand14:37
diddledanlol14:37
directhexin a cage fight14:37
diddledanthat's a fireworks show right there14:37
popeygonna get some beers in i think14:37
diddledanbrand will get farage tied up in verbal knots14:37
diddledanfarage will just argue black is white and therefore he isn't racist14:38
popeyfarage will laugh manically14:38
popeywith his big wide mouth14:38
foobarrytwitter's 2 favourite people14:39
foobarrybrand will do his bearded lady impression14:39
foobarrytwitter will explode14:39
popeyyeah14:40
popeyi imagine it will14:40
foobarryfarage will say "PARKLIFE" at the end of every brand sentence14:40
directhexfarage is an idiot who does a great job of pretending to be a smart man pretending to be an idiot14:42
foobarrydoes he pretend to be smart?14:44
foobarryalthough the press are more dumb14:44
foobarryfarage milked them over the breast thing, all he had to say was one comment and the press and twitter exploded in rage14:45
foobarryit was hilarious14:45
diddledanthe problem is for some reason people still listen to him14:45
diddledanand worse some agree with him14:45
directhex"yeah, those gosh darned immigrants! broken britain! i'm moving to costa del sol..."14:46
diddledan>.<14:47
foobarryhe knows how to wind people up14:47
diddledanwell spin my nipple nuts and send me to alaska <-- like that, foobarry ?14:48
diddledan:-p14:49
diddledanspinning nipple nuts sounds like a right wind-up14:49
Myrttibeing foreigner in Britain is fun. gives you perspective on your own country. And makes one wonder about the mental state of people you share the world with14:50
Myrttiboth in the native country and here14:51
foobarrypeople on my facebook who support UKIP openly? all people who have moved to UK in last 10 yrs from abroad :|14:51
Myrttidamned if I get a job, damned if I don't14:51
directhexUKIP is here to help deport all those useless scrounging foreigners who keep stealing everyone's jobs14:52
diddledanMyrtti, "go back home ye foreign wench" (I mean your british home, obviously. there might be a parcel waiting :-p)14:52
foobarryand they are the ones supporting them14:52
Myrttiand the biggest surprise for me has been how much easier many things are in Finland. Many things are easier here than in Finland, of course, but by golly, some things seem like they've been purposefully made impossible14:54
diddledanthe question is, how far back do I go in my family's history to determine where my origins are? - e.g. my surname llewellyn suggests I'm a valley lad from waleslandshire but my grandparents are from east london and my parents are hampshire born and bred14:55
directhexmy mum's french. my dad's anglo-indian & born abroad14:55
diddledandirecthex, I choose to focus on the french and call you a frog14:56
davmor2directhex: so how many languages do you speak?14:56
directhexdavmor2: fluently? english & french14:56
davmor2diddledan: nice14:56
directhexi also did 4 more languages at school14:56
diddledanok, in that case then I choose to focus on the indian, because you can't speak that14:56
diddledango back to india, diddledan14:57
diddledaner14:57
diddledanthat didn't work14:57
davmor2haha fail14:57
diddledanlol insultfail14:57
Myrttiis there some specific reason why there isn't a centralised govermental registry of UK citizens? like, when they were born to which parents, where, and of their current address, marital status etc? is it some kind of primordial mistrust of the government, or is is just the laziness of carrying old ways of doing things?14:58
directhexthe thing about anglo-indians is they see themselves as 100% british, not in any way indian14:58
Myrttior UK residents, even14:58
foobarryMyrtti: they tried an id card system14:58
foobarryit was too expensive14:58
foobarrythey canned it after spending many 100s of £M14:58
foobarrywe have census and electroal roll14:59
diddledanmind you my attempt at a welsh accent sounds decidedly like the stereotypical pakistani accent - it makes it sound like I'm trying to be racist against pakistanis. or welsh. or both.14:59
shaunoneither of which work - I'm a british citizen, and appear on neither the census nor the electoral roll14:59
Myrttifoobarry: id cards don't necessarily come into the picture at all. I don't have a Finnish one.15:00
Myrttiit just that because there's one central place where all this information is held, it can be referred to and multipoint verified15:01
diddledandirecthex, I'm in full support of people living in britain thinking of themselves as british. it pains me to see people attacked and insulted because they're perceived to be non-native - what exactly constitutes native anyway?15:02
Myrttiie. I have an identity number, that works as my Finnish national insurance number, which is on my passport, bank account details and whatnot. I can use my passport, or if I had one, drivers licence or ID card as a proof of identity, and I can use my Internet banking account details as an electronic proof of identity, because I had to proof my identity in person at the bank when I signed up.15:02
directhexdiddledan: bloody saxons coming over here from saxony15:03
MyrttiWhat have the Romans ever done to us!15:03
Myrttior for us, even15:03
foobarryMyrtti: they don't even know how many people live in the uk15:03
shaunooh don't get me started on the romans.  the *original* housing bubble.15:03
foobarryestimates vary by a few M15:03
diddledandirecthex, yeah. those saxons raped and pillaged and now I'm here as a bastard (proper meaning, not a swear) offspring of their loins15:04
Myrttifoobarry: I know, there isn't a hint of my existance in here at the moment, because i didn't have to sign up anywhere, and I at the moment even can't.15:04
shaunodiddledan: trivia .. that's almost exactly what my surname means :)15:04
Myrttiwhich sucks when we now have to do the paperwork for the wedding, because I can't prove I'm here15:04
diddledanmy parents are married but I'm sure a saxon raped someone and left an illigitimate child somewhere in my history15:05
foobarryhmm15:05
shaunowe (ireland) seem to use electricity bills for this.  almost exclusively.  it's hilarious.15:05
Myrttishauno: it sssuuuuuuccckkkksss15:05
MyrttiSSSSUUUCCCKKKSSSS15:05
diddledanMyrtti, you're a figment of our imaginations15:05
popeyMyrtti is just an irc bot15:05
shaunooh it does.  especially since my house doesn't technically exist according to the post office.15:05
popeywhich talks about odd finnish food now and then to put us off talking about UKIP and tea15:06
diddledanpopey, your antics on the uupc show how much you love your tea :-p15:06
MyrttiI don't have any utility bills for my name, because d pays them all and all my euro wages go into my Finnish account for the wedding expenses15:06
Myrttiso I can't wave around a utility bill to prove I'm here.15:06
Myrttipopey: ooh, tea.15:06
popeymmmm tea15:07
popeyhttp://drool.popey.com/15:07
diddledanpopey, cake, too15:07
popeyhad mince pies and brandy butter last night15:07
popeySO MUCH brandy butter15:07
diddledanok, now I'm jelly15:07
diddledanthat's just rubbing our noses in it15:07
shaunodid popey just break() Myrtti's loop?  the Bot theory seems to hold some weight ..15:07
popeyit was so yum15:08
popeynot sure what we're going to do with uupc next year15:08
popeytony is leaving ☹15:08
Myrttiawww15:08
Dave2A great loss for the gaming community15:08
diddledanLaura does a good job with the audio levels - makes it exciting to see how it turns out each week ;-)15:08
popey15:09
popeythis week i had to waffle a couple of times as tony got up to fiddle with switches and cables on marks mic15:09
foobarry popey> it was so yum15:09
foobarryit was so apt15:09
popeypac. man.15:09
diddledannothing like twiddling with your knobs on a live broadcast15:10
Dave2you're really up2date with your package manager jokes15:10
shaunoI think you should take Dan on as an apprentice.  he has degrees in waffling.15:10
diddledanlol15:10
popeythese jokes are really clicking with me15:10
diddledanooh, snappy15:10
diddledan\o/15:11
popeywe should have had cheese and portage after our mince pies and brandy btrfs15:11
foobarryyast stop it now15:11
foobarrythat joke is so yast year15:11
diddledanI'm coming over there to beat you senseless for these jokes. I'll need a lot of rpms to get there before you disappear tho15:12
Dave2you're meant to just click and run with bad puns, not repeat them15:12
diddledanmy brain is on overdrive. it's positively synaptic15:13
popeyhow does OneGet out of this complete Fink?!15:13
* popey wonders how many people are on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_software_package_management_systems15:13
Dave2you can probably install something from the Ubuntu Software CEnter15:14
* Dave2 is not on any list15:14
shaunothat you know of ;)15:14
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Myrttioh man, muggles15:52
Myrttileaving rsvps in snailmail15:52
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diddledanso I'm sat in the dark again18:33
daftykinsmy place came with a remote for the lights XD so i can just jab 'on' from sat at the desk and huzzah \o/18:33
diddledanhaha18:33
diddledanif I had that I'd be set. as long as I didn't need the loo18:34
davmor2I have an led bulb and a north facing office it's on most of the day and then I have a spot for when it is really dark :)18:45
diddledangod that was a pain19:26
diddledanjust spent 6 hours trying to get piecss loaded and running in ie819:27
diddledanspecifically I can't guarantee the location of the file and the behavior css rule requires an absolute path19:27
diddledanstupid stupid microsoft!19:27
daftykins8? :(19:28
diddledanyeah. 8. governement19:36
diddledanI think they're at least running it on windows7 tho19:37
daftykins*shudder*19:37
daftykinsthat's alright at least, yeah19:37
DJonesdiddledan: Its the government, they'll be using XP19:37
diddledanDJones, good point19:37
DJonesWhy is it that nobody ever seems to be running Windows Vista, its either XP or Vista19:38
DJonesWhy is it that nobody ever seems to be running Windows Vista, its either XP or Windows 719:38
diddledanaye19:38
daftykinsVista is way more painful on the same hardware as 719:39
daftykinsso anyone with any sense moved up19:39
daftykinsmost people i've had Vista systems from, abandoned them19:39
diddledanI like pointless commit messages20:04
diddledan"I've been a big boy and started playing with crayons. I didn't eat them too much."20:04
daftykinslol20:07
mapyo20:14
* DJones would yo but gibralter internet is worse than Liverpool20:25
daftykinsXD20:27
daftykinsmy mates dad at the pub quiz the other night told an musing tale of being stick in Gib years ago when the borders still existed, they shut so they couldn't go back to Morocco20:28
mappsyo22:11
mappsnoone awake..? its early122:31
mappstoo early for daftykins  maybe :)22:31
daftykinsno sir22:32
daftykinsjust channel hopping22:32
shaunoawake?  but it's still yesterday!22:37
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