| inetpro | good mornings | 02:56 |
|---|---|---|
| inetpro | good sign to see that I'm still online | 02:56 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | morning all | 05:48 |
| theblazehen | hi ThatGraemeGuy | 06:04 |
| gremble | o/ | 06:34 |
| theblazehen | hi gremble | 06:35 |
| gremble | Hey theblazehen. How are you this morning? | 06:44 |
| theblazehen | good, and you? | 06:44 |
| gremble | I am doing well thank you | 06:58 |
| superfly | morning all | 07:15 |
| gremble | Good morning superfly | 07:15 |
| superfly | ThatGraemeGuy: is there a particular way I should talk to someone on VanessaE's server to get interact priv? | 07:15 |
| superfly | ThatGraemeGuy: no worries, sorted | 07:24 |
| theblazehen | hi superfly | 07:26 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | superfly: glad I could help :-) | 08:09 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | morning Kilos | 08:22 |
| Kilos | hi ThatGraemeGuy and everyone else | 08:22 |
| gremble | Hey Kilos | 08:37 |
| Kilos | hi gremble | 08:37 |
| Kilos | hi bduk superfly | 08:56 |
| Kilos | inetpro: fix it | 08:56 |
| inetpro | uh? | 08:56 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | no time for questions just fix it | 08:58 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | :-p | 08:58 |
| inetpro | ai! | 08:59 |
| inetpro | not sure what you are referring to | 08:59 |
| Kilos | lol | 08:59 |
| Kilos | everything man | 08:59 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | no me neither, i'm just rolling with it | 08:59 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | let us know when its done | 08:59 |
| inetpro | done | 09:00 |
| Kilos | good man | 09:03 |
| Kilos | have some coffee | 09:03 |
| Kilos | Maaz: coffee on | 09:03 |
| * Maaz washes some mugs | 09:03 | |
| bduk | Morning everyone | 09:04 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for Kilos! | 09:07 |
| Kilos | Maaz: ty | 09:22 |
| Maaz | You are welcome Kilos | 09:22 |
| Squirm | Hey all | 09:55 |
| Squirm | ThatGraemeGuy: Heard you had some issues last night? | 09:55 |
| Squirm | Guys, I'm wondering if any of you have come across a USB Charging solution. We have about 25-30 devices that need to be charged. We have USB hubs but the only output about 500ma, we need 1.5A/2A per usb port | 09:56 |
| Squirm | it just needs to charge, no data | 09:57 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | I had some issues last night? | 10:02 |
| Kilos | hmm... yum yum | 10:18 |
| Kilos | ian brought me some tong | 10:18 |
| Squirm | Received an email about something up with Hetzner CHS | 10:23 |
| * Squirm shrugs | 10:23 | |
| Squirm | not sure on the details :P | 10:23 |
| Squirm | so don't mind me | 10:25 |
| Kilos | Squirm: the usb hub, has the cable got 2 plugs on the pc side? | 10:45 |
| Kilos | those cables put out more power than the single one | 10:45 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | mmm not sure, CHS don't typically send out general emails | 10:47 |
| Kilos | ThatGraemeGuy: how can one stop spam emails on that site ian has there by you guys | 11:09 |
| Squirm | ThatGraemeGuy: I'l looking to make up 30 ports, with 2A per port | 11:25 |
| Squirm | sorry, Kilos* | 11:25 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 11:27 |
| Kilos | and you basically want to plug in to mains then charge usb goodies from it | 11:28 |
| Kilos | thats 60 amps you want it to be capable of delivering | 11:29 |
| Kilos | youll need to buy a strong transformer to start with | 11:30 |
| Kilos | then build a rectifier circuit | 11:30 |
| Kilos | then feed 30 usb sockets | 11:30 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | Kilos: there is spam filtering as far as I'm aware, but I don't really work with the email & shared hosting plans to be frank | 11:33 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | he can always contact support@hetzner.co.za, they'll be happy to help where they can | 11:33 |
| gremble | But you're not frank, you're ThatGraemeGuy guy | 11:33 |
| Kilos | cool ty ill get him to look deeper | 11:33 |
| Kilos | lol | 11:33 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | or call 0861-0861-08 | 11:33 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | I'm schitzophrenic :) | 11:34 |
| Kilos | i asked hasnt it got a filter and he said that can only help after he has told it the the pile of spam mails there are spam haha | 11:34 |
| Kilos | hes crying about having to mark each one individually as spam | 11:35 |
| Kilos | time consumingf | 11:35 |
| Kilos | he has left now to go home ill catch him later and give the info ty | 11:35 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | Kilos: also, see http://www.hetzner.co.za/helpcentre/index.php/articles/search/eyJyZXN1bHRfcGFnZSI6ImFydGljbGVzXC9zZWFyY2giLCJrZXl3b3JkcyI6InNwYW0ifQ | 11:37 |
| Kilos | ty sir | 11:37 |
| theblazehen | Kilos: USB is only 5V | 11:42 |
| theblazehen | 5V 60A = 300W | 11:43 |
| theblazehen | 300W = 1.36 A at 220V | 11:43 |
| theblazehen | put it at 1.5A at the wall, due to inefficiency | 11:43 |
| Kilos | right so you need a step down transformer from 220 to 5v | 11:44 |
| Kilos | then a rectifier circuit and a regulator circuit | 11:47 |
| Kilos | you want to make something like this but for 30 usb ports | 11:49 |
| Kilos | http://www.portablepowersupplies.co.uk/portapow-quad-usb-mains-charger/ | 11:49 |
| theblazehen | Kilos: yeah. What about those things that you sometimes see in shopping centers? | 11:50 |
| theblazehen | http://www.ioiusb.com/Hub/DU3-32U3BC01.htm this maybe? | 11:50 |
| Kilos | i havent been to a shopping centre for years | 11:51 |
| Kilos | is this for charging peeps cell phones? | 11:52 |
| theblazehen | Yeah, this will charge with USB | 11:52 |
| Kilos | dont they have cell chrging points at shops or airports or something | 11:53 |
| theblazehen | Squirm: ^, could this work?? | 11:53 |
| theblazehen | Kilos: ya, what I was talking about | 11:53 |
| Kilos | i saw that theblazehen looks like you then plug usb chargers into that | 11:54 |
| theblazehen | Kilos: ya | 11:55 |
| Kilos | lets hear what he want to charge | 11:55 |
| theblazehen | ya | 11:55 |
| Squirm | theblazehen: looks like it | 11:56 |
| Squirm | theblazehen: where can i get one ? | 11:56 |
| theblazehen | Hmm.. Does it not say on the site? | 11:56 |
| Kilos | Squirm: you didnt say what you want to charge | 11:56 |
| theblazehen | Squirm: sales@ioi.com.tw | 11:57 |
| Squirm | anything that needs to be usb charged | 11:57 |
| Squirm | @ Kilos | 11:57 |
| Kilos | that box looks to me like you plug usb chargers into it first then cells into chargers | 11:58 |
| theblazehen | Kilos: it said that it takes power from AC | 11:58 |
| Kilos | you can check on that | 11:58 |
| theblazehen | > Built-in 350W AC (100-240V, 50-60Hz) to DC Switching Power Adapter. (PS-00044) | 11:58 |
| Kilos | thats the mixup part to me , why then plug a usb charger into that | 11:59 |
| Kilos | it should do the job i thing | 11:59 |
| theblazehen | You plug your phone into it? | 11:59 |
| Kilos | ya thats what i would think | 12:00 |
| theblazehen | Squirm: assuming 100% efficiency this can provide 4.3A per port | 12:00 |
| Squirm | theblazehen: yeah... much better than 500ma :/ | 12:00 |
| Kilos | so peeps just need to have their own usb to cell cable | 12:00 |
| Squirm | Kilos: yes | 12:00 |
| Kilos | or you can market them too | 12:00 |
| Squirm | that's what I want | 12:00 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | lol | 12:01 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | that's a 1U rackmount thingy | 12:01 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | good luck with the rat's nest of cables ;-) | 12:01 |
| theblazehen | ThatGraemeGuy: oh, yeah... | 12:01 |
| Squirm | which means we can put it in a cabinet | 12:01 |
| Squirm | it's already a nest of cables | 12:01 |
| Squirm | it'll help neaten things up actually | 12:01 |
| theblazehen | lol | 12:01 |
| theblazehen | What you use now Squirm? | 12:02 |
| Squirm | a few chargers + normal usb hubs. | 12:02 |
| Squirm | we have tablets, we've made a box for each tablet with a usb cable per box | 12:02 |
| Squirm | (box being big enough to fit a tablet) | 12:02 |
| Squirm | but the hubs provide 500ma per port | 12:03 |
| Squirm | so to charge a tablet, it's not great | 12:03 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 12:03 |
| * Kilos keeps forgetting you can buy everything nowadays | 12:35 | |
| charl | good afternoon | 13:02 |
| charl | Maaz: coffee on | 13:02 |
| theblazehen | h ich | 13:02 |
| * Maaz starts grinding coffee | 13:02 | |
| charl | hi theblazehen | 13:02 |
| theblazehen | hi charl | 13:02 |
| charl | yesterday got kubernetes installed, today trying the new openshift 3 | 13:02 |
| charl | openshift 3 is based around kubernetes and docker | 13:02 |
| theblazehen | ah, nice :) | 13:02 |
| charl | i want to try fabric8 with hawtio now | 13:03 |
| theblazehen | kk | 13:03 |
| charl | running a small openshift 3 cluster with a master and two minions is easy with vagrant | 13:04 |
| * theblazehen is downloading a vagrant image for the 3rd time in the last 24 hours... | 13:04 | |
| theblazehen | ah, kk | 13:04 |
| charl | but it seems like the environment variables are not being set correctly | 13:04 |
| theblazehen | inside the guest? Or where? | 13:04 |
| charl | on the master and minions | 13:05 |
| charl | when i use vagrant ssh | 13:05 |
| theblazehen | ah | 13:05 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for charl! | 13:06 |
| charl | i need things like KUBERNETES_MASTER, D, DOCKER_HOST, DOCKER_REGISTRY etc | 13:06 |
| charl | seems like they are not being set correctly in this vagrant openshift cluster | 13:06 |
| theblazehen | not being set at all, or what? | 13:07 |
| charl | not being set at all | 13:07 |
| theblazehen | hmm... | 13:07 |
| charl | just need to figure out how to get all of that working and to the correct values | 13:07 |
| theblazehen | yeah | 13:07 |
| charl | otherwise i can do nothing | 13:07 |
| charl | this stuff is so new it's bleeding edge and i am bleeding | 13:08 |
| theblazehen | yeah | 13:08 |
| theblazehen | lol | 13:08 |
| charl | this looks very interesting http://vimeo.com/112450838 | 13:08 |
| charl | Deployment Pipeline for Java EE 7 with WildFly, Arquillian, Jenkins, and OpenShift | 13:09 |
| theblazehen | can't be played.. | 13:09 |
| theblazehen | hi SDCDev | 13:09 |
| theblazehen | ah | 13:09 |
| charl | weird, plays fine here (without flash) | 13:09 |
| theblazehen | Browser? | 13:09 |
| gremble | html5 baby | 13:09 |
| charl | chromium-browser | 13:09 |
| theblazehen | ah, firefox here | 13:09 |
| SDCDev | hi hi :) | 13:11 |
| charl | theblazehen: ah it's an mp4, firefox only supports webm | 13:31 |
| charl | chromium-browser comes with mp4 support out of the box | 13:31 |
| charl | i should say, VP8/Vorbis inside webm as the container | 13:32 |
| theblazehen | charl: ah.. | 13:34 |
| Kilos | theblazehen: you know what | 13:45 |
| theblazehen | Kilos: no? | 13:52 |
| Kilos | you quite handy to have around. | 13:52 |
| theblazehen | heh, ty :) | 13:52 |
| Kilos | seems that guy hononon whatever won | 13:52 |
| theblazehen | ah, nice | 13:53 |
| Kilos | well he hasnt come back | 13:53 |
| theblazehen | ya | 13:53 |
| Kilos | maybe he installed windows server hehe | 13:53 |
| theblazehen | heh.. | 13:53 |
| gremble | Windows NT is the way to go | 13:59 |
| * gremble shrugs | 13:59 | |
| Kilos | eish | 13:59 |
| Kilos | what you smoking | 13:59 |
| theblazehen | nah, Gentoo/NT | 14:00 |
| gremble | Is that a new version? :P | 14:00 |
| theblazehen | http://gentooexperimental.org/nt/ | 14:00 |
| Kilos | does windows server come with a gui? | 14:03 |
| charl | yes Kilos | 14:03 |
| Kilos | ah thats why he was lost | 14:04 |
| charl | full gui but with 2012 you can run individual nodes headless | 14:04 |
| theblazehen | unless you install core :) hehe | 14:04 |
| theblazehen | charl: I thought that was also with 2008? | 14:04 |
| charl | and then manage them centrally using that whatever version | 14:04 |
| charl | theblazehen: ah that might be possible indeed | 14:04 |
| theblazehen | gtg | 14:05 |
| charl | what was it called again... management center or something | 14:05 |
| charl | ciao theblazehen | 14:05 |
| Kilos | hehe seems like govt servers fixed charl | 14:08 |
| Kilos | been good all day | 14:08 |
| Kilos | go goosie | 14:08 |
| charl | very good | 14:09 |
| charl | goosie? | 14:09 |
| Kilos | gustav man | 14:10 |
| Kilos | the pro | 14:10 |
| Kilos | he knows much more than he lets on at times i think | 14:10 |
| Kilos | the skelm | 14:11 |
| charl | ah sorry | 14:13 |
| charl | :) | 14:13 |
| charl | he is the pro after all | 14:13 |
| charl | liek a boss ! | 14:13 |
| Kilos | yeah | 14:13 |
| charl | he's like they see me rollin... they hating.... | 14:14 |
| Squirm | Cheers all, have a good evening | 14:19 |
| Kilos | you too ty Squirm | 14:29 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 16:30 |
| theblazehen | Kilos: indeed | 16:33 |
| Kilos | we missed him | 16:33 |
| Kilos | if think if he hasnt come right just help him mount it from the cd and install ubuntu-desktop | 16:33 |
| Kilos | he didnt notice any bloat | 16:34 |
| Kilos | or you can go the i3 route but then you might need to help lots more | 16:34 |
| Kilos | oh im sure the is a server guide he can download | 16:36 |
| theblazehen | ya, but I think it's not setting mode right. Might be better with i3 or something, as he just needs terminal | 16:38 |
| Kilos | i dont think he is comfortable with the cli yet | 16:40 |
| Kilos | i dont know how they work windows servers, he spoke about remote | 16:41 |
| Kilos | the switch from windows to ubuntu destop isnt easy so to switch to cli must be frightening | 16:43 |
| theblazehen | yeah | 16:45 |
| Kilos | i remember how the guys battled with me | 16:46 |
| Kilos | like giving apt-get commands and them not working because of no sudo | 16:46 |
| Kilos | hi hannolom | 16:46 |
| hannolom | HI | 16:47 |
| theblazehen | hi hannolom | 16:47 |
| Kilos | did you win? | 16:47 |
| hannolom | No luck whatsoever | 16:47 |
| theblazehen | hannolom: Saw your last messages, did you put the nomodeset on the rescue command line right? | 16:47 |
| Kilos | ok let theblazehen lead you | 16:47 |
| hannolom | no - were not able to get there | 16:48 |
| theblazehen | so no rescue mode? | 16:48 |
| hannolom | Let me boot using resque mode and get to it step by step | 16:49 |
| theblazehen | Wait.. Does the server have a serial port? | 16:51 |
| hannolom | yes | 16:52 |
| theblazehen | Can you connect to it with another PC? | 16:53 |
| hannolom | dont have a serial cable | 16:53 |
| hannolom | ok booted with ubumntu DVD - I have a "Rescue a Broken System" option | 16:54 |
| hannolom | ok - I have a purple screen with Rescue mode in the top left cornet and a shell at the bottom | 16:57 |
| hannolom | now that? | 16:58 |
| hannolom | sorry now what? | 16:58 |
| Kilos | you need to be patient hannolom he does lots of other things at the same time | 16:59 |
| Kilos | in the meantime, where are you? | 16:59 |
| hannolom | if I go ls I get the following folders : bin dev lib media opt root sbin srv tmp var | 16:59 |
| Kilos | theblazehen: ? | 17:00 |
| hannolom | boot etc proc mnt run selinux sys usr and vmlinuz | 17:00 |
| Kilos | hi Joe_knock | 17:00 |
| Joe_knock | hi oom | 17:01 |
| Kilos | those are the folders in your root directory | 17:01 |
| hannolom | looks like it - yes | 17:02 |
| Joe_knock | hannolom: New guy? | 17:02 |
| hannolom | yip | 17:02 |
| Kilos | he is trying to install ubuntu server Joe_knock | 17:02 |
| hannolom | strugling new guy | 17:02 |
| Kilos | but after booting there is no cli | 17:03 |
| Joe_knock | aah I have exp there. | 17:03 |
| Joe_knock | ubuntu server at home? | 17:03 |
| Joe_knock | desktop or laptop? | 17:03 |
| Joe_knock | 12.04 or 14.04? | 17:03 |
| hannolom | jip - on a HP proliant DL380 generation 3 & 12.04 or 14.04 | 17:04 |
| Kilos | i gotta go eat | 17:04 |
| Kilos | wbb | 17:04 |
| Joe_knock | hannolom: which version of ubuntu server are you installing? | 17:05 |
| hannolom | either 12.04 or 14.04, currently trying 12.04 | 17:06 |
| Joe_knock | okay, hannolom are you familiar with architectures? If your system only supports 32-bit, a 64-bit won't work. | 17:06 |
| hannolom | jip - it is a 32bit - so is my image that I am installing from | 17:07 |
| Joe_knock | okay, and have you gone through the installation process? You will need a screen, keyboard attached to the HP to install | 17:08 |
| hannolom | Jip - let me fill you in on my journy (long story) | 17:09 |
| Kilos | hehe | 17:09 |
| Joe_knock | copy/paste all the text you've already written here: pastee.org . I will read up | 17:09 |
| Kilos | all the storywas last night Joe_knock | 17:10 |
| Joe_knock | Let me try finding the chat log then. | 17:10 |
| hannolom | cool | 17:10 |
| theblazehen | hannolom: gotta go, sorry | 17:11 |
| hannolom | np | 17:11 |
| Kilos | Joe_knock: in short its installed but boots to a black csreen. the usb install offered the option of installing ubuntu-desktop and that one is working, but this server has no usb boot option so cd only | 17:14 |
| Kilos | i think maybe the easiest way to get it going now is just to mount it from the live dvd and install ubuntu-desktop | 17:15 |
| Kilos | the desktop didnt seem to bloat the other one | 17:15 |
| Joe_knock | a black screen is right. It should basically only have space to enter username | 17:15 |
| Joe_knock | or rather, only specify the user enters username | 17:16 |
| Kilos | ya thats what is missing | 17:16 |
| Kilos | black is black not nothing else | 17:16 |
| hannolom | Even on the gen 4 with working desktop | 17:17 |
| Joe_knock | hmmm, try adjusting the screen resolution. Maybe the text is being hidden | 17:17 |
| hannolom | after post screen goes "out of range" | 17:17 |
| hannolom | As soon as desktop loads image comes back | 17:17 |
| Joe_knock | hannolom: send some screenshots using imgur or [image-upload-tool] | 17:17 |
| hannolom | Just the Samsung or LG screen's own message saying "out of range" | 17:19 |
| Joe_knock | hannolom: I'm not exactly sure where you're stuck right now. Are you on ubuntu-desktop or -server? | 17:20 |
| hannolom | I'm trying to install ubuntu server with a GUI | 17:21 |
| hannolom | so on gen4 using Unetbootin I have a option to add ubuntu-desktop with initial install | 17:22 |
| hannolom | but on gen3 (cant boot with USB) have to first install basic server and then add ubuntu desktop after | 17:23 |
| hannolom | porblem is I cant get a shel or anything to do so | 17:24 |
| hannolom | so I guess that i'm stuck on ubuntu-server right after booting | 17:26 |
| Kilos | hannolom: cant you remote to it? | 17:27 |
| Kilos | does your windows pc not see it till you have a gui there | 17:28 |
| hannolom | No SSH installed - same problem can't install as no display | 17:28 |
| Kilos | ok | 17:28 |
| hannolom | I can ping it | 17:29 |
| Kilos | then its connected | 17:29 |
| Kilos | do you have the ip address | 17:29 |
| hannolom | there is HHD activity as well as network activity | 17:29 |
| Kilos | have you got a spare lappy to install ubuntu on | 17:30 |
| Kilos | then you can run the ssh command and control if | 17:30 |
| Joe_knock | back | 17:30 |
| Kilos | wb Joe_knock | 17:31 |
| Kilos | catch up | 17:31 |
| Kilos | i dont know if you can ssh ip from windows | 17:31 |
| hannolom | I have a gen4 with desktop installed | 17:31 |
| hannolom | Hang on while I start that on up | 17:31 |
| Kilos | normally linux servers run with no desktop | 17:31 |
| Joe_knock | You can SSH into ubuntu-server from win. You need that CLI tool | 17:32 |
| Kilos | help him do that then Joe_knock | 17:32 |
| Joe_knock | and SSH should be installed on the server | 17:32 |
| Kilos | oh my | 17:32 |
| Kilos | as default? | 17:32 |
| Joe_knock | I dislike installing a server with a GUI. You don't need one for it. | 17:32 |
| Kilos | this is his first attempt at ubuntu | 17:33 |
| Kilos | so total noob | 17:33 |
| Joe_knock | oom, it's not that difficult to work from the commandline. and it looks like that HP machine is a bit old, so the GUI will hurt performance | 17:34 |
| hannolom | Did manage to get a CNC machine running on ubuntu 12.04 workstation a while back | 17:34 |
| Kilos | actually his other ubuntu server with the desktop might be ideal to ssh to this one | 17:34 |
| hannolom | but novice sounds righrt\ | 17:34 |
| Joe_knock | hannolom: Do you have the IP address of the HP? If not, access your router and find it from there. | 17:34 |
| Joe_knock | Then we can try to SSH into the HP | 17:35 |
| hannolom | cool - got an IP | 17:40 |
| hannolom | So how does the SSh command go? | 17:41 |
| Joe_knock | SSH [ip-address] | 17:41 |
| Kilos | in brackets? | 17:42 |
| Joe_knock | no, eg. ssh 195.44.23.106 | 17:43 |
| Kilos | aha | 17:44 |
| Kilos | thats better then i understand too | 17:44 |
| hannolom | Does not seem to work - permision deneid - is the correct passwod though | 17:44 |
| hannolom | I also tries ssh username@ipaddress | 17:45 |
| hannolom | ok - took a bit of fidling but i'm in | 17:50 |
| Kilos | well done | 17:51 |
| hannolom | So now what? | 17:51 |
| Kilos | remember what you did | 17:51 |
| Kilos | write it down | 17:51 |
| Kilos | while you wait for joe download this | 17:52 |
| Kilos | https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/serverguide.pdf | 17:52 |
| hannolom | cool | 17:52 |
| Kilos | lol i could never figure out what servers have to do, so you need help from guys like joe that use them | 17:54 |
| hannolom | now - how to fix the graphics | 17:56 |
| Kilos | do you really want the desktop? | 17:56 |
| Kilos | or just the command line | 17:56 |
| Kilos | cli servers are much faster | 17:57 |
| Kilos | now you have control of it everything should be easy | 17:58 |
| Kilos | run this command | 17:58 |
| Kilos | sudo apt-get update | 17:58 |
| hannolom | I do get some Failed to fetch messages on some files | 18:00 |
| Kilos | they are most likely language files | 18:00 |
| Kilos | next command | 18:01 |
| Kilos | sudo apt-get upgrade | 18:01 |
| hannolom | busy | 18:01 |
| Kilos | watch what it does | 18:01 |
| Kilos | you need to run these commands on the other one as well | 18:02 |
| Kilos | unless you use the update manager on the one with gui that is | 18:03 |
| Kilos | the gui one will install lots of stuff | 18:04 |
| hannolom | Since i'm going to use blender and grapics applications i'll need the GUI | 18:05 |
| Kilos | so you want the gui on this one as well? | 18:06 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 18:06 |
| hannolom | on all - need to install blender on all of them to get the render farm working | 18:07 |
| Kilos | ok tell me when upgrade is done | 18:07 |
| hannolom | plus the GUI helps with us "newbies" :) | 18:07 |
| Kilos | ya but unity is a bit heavy and slow | 18:08 |
| hannolom | still running\ | 18:08 |
| hannolom | seems to run ok on the gen4's | 18:08 |
| hannolom | ok done | 18:08 |
| Kilos | ok so speed not a prob | 18:08 |
| Kilos | how much ram has this one got | 18:09 |
| hannolom | 3 GB - most have 4GB | 18:09 |
| Kilos | 3 should be ok | 18:09 |
| Kilos | hi mage | 18:09 |
| Kilos | oi | 18:09 |
| hannolom | So upgrade done | 18:10 |
| Kilos | ok now we need to decide on a desktop | 18:10 |
| Kilos | are you comfortable with unity? | 18:11 |
| Kilos | we have a guide somewhere as well | 18:11 |
| Kilos | http://ubuntu-za.org/news/2012/06/21/unity-orientation-guide-ubuntu-1204-lts | 18:12 |
| hannolom | I have tried ubuntu-desktop - Xubuntu and Kubuntu - The latter is misrable but seem to run smooth | 18:12 |
| hannolom | But i'll tru ubuntu for now | 18:12 |
| Kilos | lol i am using kubuntu here. it takes getting used to but seems to be more efficient and stronger | 18:12 |
| Kilos | ok then here is the command | 18:12 |
| Kilos | just want to see if you have aptitude installed but default | 18:13 |
| Kilos | sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop | 18:13 |
| Kilos | tell me what that says | 18:13 |
| Kilos | s/but/by | 18:14 |
| hannolom | crapload of errors: ends with unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages | 18:15 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 18:16 |
| Kilos | try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop | 18:17 |
| Kilos | now where would the broken packages have come from on a new install | 18:18 |
| hannolom | sorry my bad - did not try aptitude first time | 18:19 |
| hannolom | busy | 18:19 |
| Kilos | sudo apt-get install -f | 18:19 |
| Kilos | should fix brokens | 18:19 |
| Kilos | hi ThatGraemeGuy | 18:20 |
| hannolom | so now? rebboot? | 18:20 |
| Kilos | is it done? | 18:20 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | 'lo | 18:21 |
| hannolom | looks so - did not confirm sucsessfull - but no errors either | 18:21 |
| Kilos | here is a package manager for newbies hannolom | 18:21 |
| Kilos | sudo apt-get install synaptic aptitude | 18:21 |
| Kilos | ill teach you to use it\ | 18:22 |
| hannolom | same error - <kilos> im going to start a fresh reinstall - I think in my tinkering I might have messed it up! | 18:23 |
| Kilos | no man | 18:24 |
| inetpro | good evening | 18:24 |
| Kilos | well fix it | 18:24 |
| Kilos | what errors | 18:24 |
| Kilos | hi inetpro | 18:24 |
| inetpro | hello Kilos | 18:24 |
| hannolom | You have held broken packages\ | 18:24 |
| hannolom | brb | 18:25 |
| Kilos | whats the apt-get command that ends with --fix-broken inetpro | 18:25 |
| Kilos | wait hannolom | 18:25 |
| inetpro | man apt-get | 18:25 |
| Kilos | that is dont reboot or reinstall yet | 18:25 |
| Kilos | eish | 18:25 |
| Kilos | oh its the -f | 18:26 |
| inetpro | very well explained in the man page | 18:27 |
| inetpro | much better than I could | 18:27 |
| Kilos | nee man you give me the exact command man makes me try work one out | 18:28 |
| Kilos | at least you were online all day inetpro so you fixed it | 18:31 |
| inetpro | of course | 18:32 |
| Kilos | good man | 18:32 |
| inetpro | can't keep postponing a proper fix forever | 18:32 |
| Kilos | now dontr say ai! when i say inetpro fix it | 18:32 |
| inetpro | :-) | 18:32 |
| Kilos | hehe | 18:32 |
| hannolom | back | 18:33 |
| Kilos | ok hannolom | 18:33 |
| Kilos | lets find those broken things | 18:34 |
| hannolom | k | 18:34 |
| hannolom | what do i do? | 18:34 |
| Kilos | did you try sudo apt-get install aptitude | 18:34 |
| Kilos | oh i just remembered another command | 18:35 |
| hannolom | looks ok | 18:35 |
| Kilos | sudo dpkg --configure -a | 18:35 |
| Kilos | i thinks thats it | 18:36 |
| Kilos | inetpro: keep an eye please | 18:36 |
| Joe_knock | wait, why exactly are you installing ubuntu-server for a desktop-like app Blender? | 18:36 |
| hannolom | just gave me a net line | 18:36 |
| Joe_knock | Suggestion: Avoid Unity for a 3GB machine. Go with Xu or Lu | 18:37 |
| Kilos | tell Joe_knock hannolom | 18:37 |
| superfly | Even KDE/Kubuntu is lighter than Unity (or Gnome, in fact) | 18:37 |
| superfly | and KDE can do non-3D mode | 18:38 |
| superfly | LXQt is looking VERY promising | 18:38 |
| hannolom | tried it on the gen4's with both ku, xu and ubuntu - and all run about the same | 18:38 |
| hannolom | no real diference - ku seem the smoothest | 18:38 |
| Joe_knock | hannolom: They would for light work, but when using tools like Blender, you don't want Unity bloat. | 18:38 |
| Kilos | ok lets fix them broken first | 18:39 |
| hannolom | well I have 5 gen3 dl380 to install - I can try and test them all - sulution to my proplen sould havever be similar | 18:40 |
| Kilos | sudo aptitude install synaptic | 18:40 |
| hannolom | Object for now is to get one of them working | 18:40 |
| hannolom | working | 18:41 |
| Kilos | lets get this one going properly then you can change gui's later | 18:41 |
| hannolom | right | 18:41 |
| Kilos | ok in the dash type in synaptic | 18:42 |
| Kilos | and open it | 18:42 |
| Kilos | dash is the top button on the left | 18:42 |
| hannolom | did not look like synaptic installed | 18:43 |
| Kilos | ok | 18:43 |
| Kilos | sudo aptitude reinstall synaptic | 18:44 |
| hannolom | end with need to get 0 B of archives. after unpacking 0 B will be used | 18:44 |
| Kilos | that means its installed | 18:44 |
| Kilos | sudo synaptic | 18:44 |
| hannolom | command not found | 18:45 |
| hannolom | if I enter Synaptic - "the program "synaptic" is currently not installed\ | 18:46 |
| Joe_knock | Anybody know this guy: https://fredreh.wordpress.com/about-2/ ?? | 18:46 |
| Kilos | sudo apt-get install synaptic | 18:47 |
| hannolom | Broken packages again | 18:48 |
| Kilos | eish | 18:48 |
| Kilos | it doesnt say which ones | 18:49 |
| Joe_knock | Try a different server for DL. | 18:49 |
| hannolom | bet that reinstall option is becomming attractive? | 18:49 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:49 |
| hannolom | how do I set that? | 18:49 |
| Joe_knock | Go to your package manager | 18:49 |
| Kilos | no man i used to always reinstall and everyone bombed me and said fix it | 18:49 |
| hannolom | haha | 18:50 |
| Joe_knock | (update manager) | 18:50 |
| hannolom | So we learn | 18:50 |
| Kilos | software centre | 18:50 |
| Joe_knock | Bottom-left, Settings... | 18:50 |
| hannolom | from a shell - I'n ssh into the server shell only | 18:50 |
| Kilos | oh maybe the packages in archives are broken | 18:50 |
| Joe_knock | Ubuntu Software tab, Download from: | 18:50 |
| Kilos | he hasnt rebooted yet Joe_knock | 18:51 |
| Kilos | maybe reboot for atarters and see if the desktop is there | 18:51 |
| Kilos | starters | 18:51 |
| Joe_knock | oh you're still in the CLI? I thought desktop was already installed | 18:51 |
| Kilos | if not ssh into it again | 18:52 |
| Joe_knock | There should be a way to change it from CLI also. | 18:52 |
| hannolom | lets try - rebooting now | 18:52 |
| Kilos | ya | 18:52 |
| Kilos | the pro knows how to change repos from cli | 18:52 |
| Kilos | im too doff | 18:52 |
| Joe_knock | A simple check on ddg.co should give an answer. | 18:53 |
| Kilos | smoke already coming out my ears from all the thinking | 18:55 |
| hannolom | mmm - still no display | 18:55 |
| hannolom | let me ssh in again | 18:55 |
| Kilos | so its in the broken packages | 18:55 |
| superfly | if you reinstall every time you never learn how to fix it. and on Linux, you can *always* fix it | 18:56 |
| Kilos | hahaha you see hannolom | 18:57 |
| hannolom | I think it if broken further - cant ping it after reboot? | 19:00 |
| Kilos | ai! | 19:02 |
| Kilos | still no cli on it either? | 19:02 |
| hannolom | nope - goes dark right after post | 19:03 |
| Kilos | look in router if it gave another ip | 19:03 |
| hannolom | how? | 19:03 |
| Kilos | i dunno | 19:03 |
| Kilos | how did you find the last one | 19:03 |
| Kilos | i dont use a router it hurts my head | 19:04 |
| hannolom | the gen4 is on 10.0.0.8 - so I started from 10.0.0.1 upwards untill I got ping responce | 19:05 |
| hannolom | now I get nothing | 19:05 |
| Kilos | now we need the clever guys help again | 19:06 |
| hannolom | wait rebooted again and I have a pulse | 19:06 |
| Kilos | Joe_knock: jump in | 19:06 |
| Kilos | whats a pulse | 19:06 |
| Kilos | im a born noob | 19:06 |
| hannolom | good - im in | 19:06 |
| Joe_knock | the ip address will keep changing each time you reset it. | 19:06 |
| Kilos | yay well done | 19:07 |
| Kilos | now to change repos | 19:07 |
| Kilos | tell him how please guys | 19:07 |
| Kilos | that other one has broken packages | 19:08 |
| Kilos | hannolom: run sudo apt-get clean | 19:08 |
| hannolom | just jumped to a new line | 19:09 |
| Kilos | ja it removed the packages from the cache | 19:09 |
| Kilos | the archives | 19:10 |
| Kilos | im looking for a fix-broken command | 19:11 |
| Kilos | try this again, it should fetch some | 19:12 |
| Kilos | or first run sudo apt-get update | 19:12 |
| Kilos | then sudo apt-get install -f | 19:12 |
| hannolom | k | 19:13 |
| hannolom | looks like its going to us.archive.com | 19:14 |
| Kilos | ah didnt you tell it you in za | 19:14 |
| hannolom | this is prob my 20th install - keep on tryning new things to get it working | 19:15 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:15 |
| hannolom | so - how do I change | 19:16 |
| Kilos | been there done that | 19:16 |
| Kilos | i use synaptic | 19:16 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:16 |
| Kilos | sudo apt-get install synaptic | 19:16 |
| hannolom | mmm - broken packages | 19:17 |
| Kilos | oh you dont have a desktop there so you wont see it via ssh i think | 19:17 |
| Kilos | that mirror must have broken packages | 19:17 |
| hannolom | guess so | 19:18 |
| Kilos | sjoe can you use nano | 19:20 |
| Kilos | sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list | 19:20 |
| Kilos | then step back | 19:20 |
| hannolom | I fear my time for toningt have run out. I'll do the evil thing and reinstall a crean server then tie up with you gents and ladies again tomorrow! | 19:21 |
| Kilos | ok cool . good luck | 19:21 |
| hannolom | Thanks for the assist - let the good fight continue tomorrow! | 19:21 |
| Kilos | make sure you sa you in za | 19:22 |
| Kilos | then youll get a good mirror | 19:22 |
| hannolom | cool - will do | 19:22 |
| Kilos | sjoe hy baie slimmer as ek was | 19:25 |
| Kilos | Joe_knock: ty | 19:28 |
| Joe_knock | julle slaap too early | 19:28 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:30 |
| Kilos | superfly: is lxqt stable? | 19:30 |
| Kilos | or still in developement | 19:30 |
| superfly | stable, yes. got everything it needs? no. | 19:31 |
| superfly | like it doesn't have a network widget, it seems. | 19:31 |
| Kilos | eish that the most important thing | 19:31 |
| Joe_knock | http://lxqt.org/ | 19:31 |
| Joe_knock | xfce is still the most fluid/beautiful | 19:32 |
| Kilos | ya but the x things arent lekker | 19:34 |
| Kilos | even unity is better to use | 19:34 |
| Joe_knock | gnome works okay with xfce so there's an advantage there | 19:35 |
| Kilos | im getting too used to kde to easily change | 19:36 |
| Kilos | i didnt enjoy xubuntu at all | 19:36 |
| Kilos | i even have kde 32 bit running on a dual core 3g with 2g ram | 19:37 |
| Kilos | slow but stable | 19:38 |
| Joe_knock | I | 19:40 |
| Joe_knock | I've grown to dislike slow. Even on my outdated machines | 19:40 |
| Kilos | ya but you guys do everything fast and multitask as well so it aggravates it | 19:44 |
| Joe_knock | oom Kilos gaan jy vir vakansie? | 19:49 |
| Kilos | nee man ek gaan nerens nie | 19:50 |
| Kilos | vir 10 jaar nou | 19:50 |
| Joe_knock | yoh | 19:57 |
| Kilos | its fine i spent years at the coast and been to ct and pe and some places in northern tvl and i dont need to see more places atm | 20:00 |
| Kilos | then id have to get a laptop to be able to stay online | 20:00 |
| Joe_knock | oom daar is teveel free wifi all over SA, so you're good for internet activity :P | 20:04 |
| Kilos | lol then id need to get a lappy or cart my desktop and get a wifi card for it too | 20:05 |
| Kilos | and i dont like laptops | 20:05 |
| Joe_knock | get a chromebook. | 20:07 |
| Kilos | nono | 20:07 |
| Joe_knock | daai klein 11 inch laptop | 20:08 |
| Kilos | nee man kleiner is erger | 20:08 |
| Kilos | ek het groot goed nodig om te kan sien wat is wat | 20:08 |
| Kilos | im older man and got one blind eye and the other one also cant see | 20:11 |
| Kilos | ive had a good run | 20:11 |
| Kilos | so no complaints apart from the headache | 20:11 |
| Kilos | ive lived on crayfish and mussels for years and big meats for more years so nothing missing in my life | 20:13 |
| Joe_knock | lol, so wag jy vir die lamp te switch off? | 20:21 |
| Kilos | lol been there done that too | 20:22 |
| Kilos | been rebooted | 20:23 |
| Joe_knock | :O | 20:23 |
| Kilos | good idea to go sleep methinks | 20:27 |
| Kilos | night all. sleep tight' | 20:27 |
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