[02:56] good mornings [02:56] good sign to see that I'm still online [05:48] morning all [06:04] hi ThatGraemeGuy [06:34] o/ [06:35] hi gremble [06:44] Hey theblazehen. How are you this morning? [06:44] good, and you? [06:58] I am doing well thank you [07:15] morning all [07:15] Good morning superfly [07:15] ThatGraemeGuy: is there a particular way I should talk to someone on VanessaE's server to get interact priv? [07:24] ThatGraemeGuy: no worries, sorted [07:26] hi superfly [08:09] superfly: glad I could help :-) [08:22] morning Kilos [08:22] hi ThatGraemeGuy and everyone else [08:37] Hey Kilos [08:37] hi gremble [08:56] hi bduk superfly [08:56] inetpro: fix it [08:56] uh? [08:58] no time for questions just fix it [08:58] :-p [08:59] ai! [08:59] not sure what you are referring to [08:59] lol [08:59] everything man [08:59] no me neither, i'm just rolling with it [08:59] let us know when its done [09:00] done [09:03] good man [09:03] have some coffee [09:03] Maaz: coffee on [09:03] * Maaz washes some mugs [09:04] Morning everyone [09:07] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [09:22] Maaz: ty [09:22] You are welcome Kilos [09:55] Hey all [09:55] ThatGraemeGuy: Heard you had some issues last night? [09:56] Guys, I'm wondering if any of you have come across a USB Charging solution. We have about 25-30 devices that need to be charged. We have USB hubs but the only output about 500ma, we need 1.5A/2A per usb port [09:57] it just needs to charge, no data [10:02] I had some issues last night? [10:18] hmm... yum yum [10:18] ian brought me some tong [10:23] Received an email about something up with Hetzner CHS [10:23] * Squirm shrugs [10:23] not sure on the details :P [10:25] so don't mind me [10:45] Squirm: the usb hub, has the cable got 2 plugs on the pc side? [10:45] those cables put out more power than the single one [10:47] mmm not sure, CHS don't typically send out general emails [11:09] ThatGraemeGuy: how can one stop spam emails on that site ian has there by you guys [11:25] ThatGraemeGuy: I'l looking to make up 30 ports, with 2A per port [11:25] sorry, Kilos* [11:27] sjoe [11:28] and you basically want to plug in to mains then charge usb goodies from it [11:29] thats 60 amps you want it to be capable of delivering [11:30] youll need to buy a strong transformer to start with [11:30] then build a rectifier circuit [11:30] then feed 30 usb sockets [11:33] Kilos: there is spam filtering as far as I'm aware, but I don't really work with the email & shared hosting plans to be frank [11:33] he can always contact support@hetzner.co.za, they'll be happy to help where they can [11:33] But you're not frank, you're ThatGraemeGuy guy [11:33] cool ty ill get him to look deeper [11:33] lol [11:33] or call 0861-0861-08 [11:34] I'm schitzophrenic :) [11:34] i asked hasnt it got a filter and he said that can only help after he has told it the the pile of spam mails there are spam haha [11:35] hes crying about having to mark each one individually as spam [11:35] time consumingf [11:35] he has left now to go home ill catch him later and give the info ty [11:37] Kilos: also, see http://www.hetzner.co.za/helpcentre/index.php/articles/search/eyJyZXN1bHRfcGFnZSI6ImFydGljbGVzXC9zZWFyY2giLCJrZXl3b3JkcyI6InNwYW0ifQ [11:37] ty sir [11:42] Kilos: USB is only 5V [11:43] 5V 60A = 300W [11:43] 300W = 1.36 A at 220V [11:43] put it at 1.5A at the wall, due to inefficiency [11:44] right so you need a step down transformer from 220 to 5v [11:47] then a rectifier circuit and a regulator circuit [11:49] you want to make something like this but for 30 usb ports [11:49] http://www.portablepowersupplies.co.uk/portapow-quad-usb-mains-charger/ [11:50] Kilos: yeah. What about those things that you sometimes see in shopping centers? [11:50] http://www.ioiusb.com/Hub/DU3-32U3BC01.htm this maybe? [11:51] i havent been to a shopping centre for years [11:52] is this for charging peeps cell phones? [11:52] Yeah, this will charge with USB [11:53] dont they have cell chrging points at shops or airports or something [11:53] Squirm: ^, could this work?? [11:53] Kilos: ya, what I was talking about [11:54] i saw that theblazehen looks like you then plug usb chargers into that [11:55] Kilos: ya [11:55] lets hear what he want to charge [11:55] ya [11:56] theblazehen: looks like it [11:56] theblazehen: where can i get one ? [11:56] Hmm.. Does it not say on the site? [11:56] Squirm: you didnt say what you want to charge [11:57] Squirm: sales@ioi.com.tw [11:57] anything that needs to be usb charged [11:57] @ Kilos [11:58] that box looks to me like you plug usb chargers into it first then cells into chargers [11:58] Kilos: it said that it takes power from AC [11:58] you can check on that [11:58] > Built-in 350W AC (100-240V, 50-60Hz) to DC Switching Power Adapter. (PS-00044) [11:59] thats the mixup part to me , why then plug a usb charger into that [11:59] it should do the job i thing [11:59] You plug your phone into it? [12:00] ya thats what i would think [12:00] Squirm: assuming 100% efficiency this can provide 4.3A per port [12:00] theblazehen: yeah... much better than 500ma :/ [12:00] so peeps just need to have their own usb to cell cable [12:00] Kilos: yes [12:00] or you can market them too [12:00] that's what I want [12:01] lol [12:01] that's a 1U rackmount thingy [12:01] good luck with the rat's nest of cables ;-) [12:01] ThatGraemeGuy: oh, yeah... [12:01] which means we can put it in a cabinet [12:01] it's already a nest of cables [12:01] it'll help neaten things up actually [12:01] lol [12:02] What you use now Squirm? [12:02] a few chargers + normal usb hubs. [12:02] we have tablets, we've made a box for each tablet with a usb cable per box [12:02] (box being big enough to fit a tablet) [12:03] but the hubs provide 500ma per port [12:03] so to charge a tablet, it's not great [12:03] sjoe [12:35] * Kilos keeps forgetting you can buy everything nowadays [13:02] good afternoon [13:02] Maaz: coffee on [13:02] h ich [13:02] * Maaz starts grinding coffee [13:02] hi theblazehen [13:02] hi charl [13:02] yesterday got kubernetes installed, today trying the new openshift 3 [13:02] openshift 3 is based around kubernetes and docker [13:02] ah, nice :) [13:03] i want to try fabric8 with hawtio now [13:03] kk [13:04] running a small openshift 3 cluster with a master and two minions is easy with vagrant [13:04] * theblazehen is downloading a vagrant image for the 3rd time in the last 24 hours... [13:04] ah, kk [13:04] but it seems like the environment variables are not being set correctly [13:04] inside the guest? Or where? [13:05] on the master and minions [13:05] when i use vagrant ssh [13:05] ah [13:06] Coffee's ready for charl! [13:06] i need things like KUBERNETES_MASTER, D, DOCKER_HOST, DOCKER_REGISTRY etc [13:06] seems like they are not being set correctly in this vagrant openshift cluster [13:07] not being set at all, or what? [13:07] not being set at all [13:07] hmm... [13:07] just need to figure out how to get all of that working and to the correct values [13:07] yeah [13:07] otherwise i can do nothing [13:08] this stuff is so new it's bleeding edge and i am bleeding [13:08] yeah [13:08] lol [13:08] this looks very interesting http://vimeo.com/112450838 [13:09] Deployment Pipeline for Java EE 7 with WildFly, Arquillian, Jenkins, and OpenShift [13:09] can't be played.. [13:09] hi SDCDev [13:09] ah [13:09] weird, plays fine here (without flash) [13:09] Browser? [13:09] html5 baby [13:09] chromium-browser [13:09] ah, firefox here [13:11] hi hi :) [13:31] theblazehen: ah it's an mp4, firefox only supports webm [13:31] chromium-browser comes with mp4 support out of the box [13:32] i should say, VP8/Vorbis inside webm as the container [13:34] charl: ah.. [13:45] theblazehen: you know what [13:52] Kilos: no? [13:52] you quite handy to have around. [13:52] heh, ty :) [13:52] seems that guy hononon whatever won [13:53] ah, nice [13:53] well he hasnt come back [13:53] ya [13:53] maybe he installed windows server hehe [13:53] heh.. [13:59] Windows NT is the way to go [13:59] * gremble shrugs [13:59] eish [13:59] what you smoking [14:00] nah, Gentoo/NT [14:00] Is that a new version? :P [14:00] http://gentooexperimental.org/nt/ [14:03] does windows server come with a gui? [14:03] yes Kilos [14:04] ah thats why he was lost [14:04] full gui but with 2012 you can run individual nodes headless [14:04] unless you install core :) hehe [14:04] charl: I thought that was also with 2008? [14:04] and then manage them centrally using that whatever version [14:04] theblazehen: ah that might be possible indeed [14:05] gtg [14:05] what was it called again... management center or something [14:05] ciao theblazehen [14:08] hehe seems like govt servers fixed charl [14:08] been good all day [14:08] go goosie [14:09] very good [14:09] goosie? [14:10] gustav man [14:10] the pro [14:10] he knows much more than he lets on at times i think [14:11] the skelm [14:13] ah sorry [14:13] :) [14:13] he is the pro after all [14:13] liek a boss ! [14:13] yeah [14:14] he's like they see me rollin... they hating.... [14:19] Cheers all, have a good evening [14:29] you too ty Squirm [16:30] hmm... [16:33] Kilos: indeed [16:33] we missed him [16:33] if think if he hasnt come right just help him mount it from the cd and install ubuntu-desktop [16:34] he didnt notice any bloat [16:34] or you can go the i3 route but then you might need to help lots more [16:36] oh im sure the is a server guide he can download [16:38] ya, but I think it's not setting mode right. Might be better with i3 or something, as he just needs terminal [16:40] i dont think he is comfortable with the cli yet [16:41] i dont know how they work windows servers, he spoke about remote [16:43] the switch from windows to ubuntu destop isnt easy so to switch to cli must be frightening [16:45] yeah [16:46] i remember how the guys battled with me [16:46] like giving apt-get commands and them not working because of no sudo [16:46] hi hannolom [16:47] HI [16:47] hi hannolom [16:47] did you win? [16:47] No luck whatsoever [16:47] hannolom: Saw your last messages, did you put the nomodeset on the rescue command line right? [16:47] ok let theblazehen lead you [16:48] no - were not able to get there [16:48] so no rescue mode? [16:49] Let me boot using resque mode and get to it step by step [16:51] Wait.. Does the server have a serial port? [16:52] yes [16:53] Can you connect to it with another PC? [16:53] dont have a serial cable [16:54] ok booted with ubumntu DVD - I have a "Rescue a Broken System" option [16:57] ok - I have a purple screen with Rescue mode in the top left cornet and a shell at the bottom [16:58] now that? [16:58] sorry now what? [16:59] you need to be patient hannolom he does lots of other things at the same time [16:59] in the meantime, where are you? [16:59] if I go ls I get the following folders : bin dev lib media opt root sbin srv tmp var [17:00] theblazehen: ? [17:00] boot etc proc mnt run selinux sys usr and vmlinuz [17:00] hi Joe_knock [17:01] hi oom [17:01] those are the folders in your root directory [17:02] looks like it - yes [17:02] hannolom: New guy? [17:02] yip [17:02] he is trying to install ubuntu server Joe_knock [17:02] strugling new guy [17:03] but after booting there is no cli [17:03] aah I have exp there. [17:03] ubuntu server at home? [17:03] desktop or laptop? [17:03] 12.04 or 14.04? [17:04] jip - on a HP proliant DL380 generation 3 & 12.04 or 14.04 [17:04] i gotta go eat [17:04] wbb [17:05] hannolom: which version of ubuntu server are you installing? [17:06] either 12.04 or 14.04, currently trying 12.04 [17:06] okay, hannolom are you familiar with architectures? If your system only supports 32-bit, a 64-bit won't work. [17:07] jip - it is a 32bit - so is my image that I am installing from [17:08] okay, and have you gone through the installation process? You will need a screen, keyboard attached to the HP to install [17:09] Jip - let me fill you in on my journy (long story) [17:09] hehe [17:09] copy/paste all the text you've already written here: pastee.org . I will read up [17:10] all the storywas last night Joe_knock [17:10] Let me try finding the chat log then. [17:10] cool [17:11] hannolom: gotta go, sorry [17:11] np [17:14] Joe_knock: in short its installed but boots to a black csreen. the usb install offered the option of installing ubuntu-desktop and that one is working, but this server has no usb boot option so cd only [17:15] i think maybe the easiest way to get it going now is just to mount it from the live dvd and install ubuntu-desktop [17:15] the desktop didnt seem to bloat the other one [17:15] a black screen is right. It should basically only have space to enter username [17:16] or rather, only specify the user enters username [17:16] ya thats what is missing [17:16] black is black not nothing else [17:17] Even on the gen 4 with working desktop [17:17] hmmm, try adjusting the screen resolution. Maybe the text is being hidden [17:17] after post screen goes "out of range" [17:17] As soon as desktop loads image comes back [17:17] hannolom: send some screenshots using imgur or [image-upload-tool] [17:19] Just the Samsung or LG screen's own message saying "out of range" [17:20] hannolom: I'm not exactly sure where you're stuck right now. Are you on ubuntu-desktop or -server? [17:21] I'm trying to install ubuntu server with a GUI [17:22] so on gen4 using Unetbootin I have a option to add ubuntu-desktop with initial install [17:23] but on gen3 (cant boot with USB) have to first install basic server and then add ubuntu desktop after [17:24] porblem is I cant get a shel or anything to do so [17:26] so I guess that i'm stuck on ubuntu-server right after booting [17:27] hannolom: cant you remote to it? [17:28] does your windows pc not see it till you have a gui there [17:28] No SSH installed - same problem can't install as no display [17:28] ok [17:29] I can ping it [17:29] then its connected [17:29] do you have the ip address [17:29] there is HHD activity as well as network activity [17:30] have you got a spare lappy to install ubuntu on [17:30] then you can run the ssh command and control if [17:30] back [17:31] wb Joe_knock [17:31] catch up [17:31] i dont know if you can ssh ip from windows [17:31] I have a gen4 with desktop installed [17:31] Hang on while I start that on up [17:31] normally linux servers run with no desktop [17:32] You can SSH into ubuntu-server from win. You need that CLI tool [17:32] help him do that then Joe_knock [17:32] and SSH should be installed on the server [17:32] oh my [17:32] as default? [17:32] I dislike installing a server with a GUI. You don't need one for it. [17:33] this is his first attempt at ubuntu [17:33] so total noob [17:34] oom, it's not that difficult to work from the commandline. and it looks like that HP machine is a bit old, so the GUI will hurt performance [17:34] Did manage to get a CNC machine running on ubuntu 12.04 workstation a while back [17:34] actually his other ubuntu server with the desktop might be ideal to ssh to this one [17:34] but novice sounds righrt\ [17:34] hannolom: Do you have the IP address of the HP? If not, access your router and find it from there. [17:35] Then we can try to SSH into the HP [17:40] cool - got an IP [17:41] So how does the SSh command go? [17:41] SSH [ip-address] [17:42] in brackets? [17:43] no, eg. ssh 195.44.23.106 [17:44] aha [17:44] thats better then i understand too [17:44] Does not seem to work - permision deneid - is the correct passwod though [17:45] I also tries ssh username@ipaddress [17:50] ok - took a bit of fidling but i'm in [17:51] well done [17:51] So now what? [17:51] remember what you did [17:51] write it down [17:52] while you wait for joe download this [17:52] https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/serverguide.pdf [17:52] cool [17:54] lol i could never figure out what servers have to do, so you need help from guys like joe that use them [17:56] now - how to fix the graphics [17:56] do you really want the desktop? [17:56] or just the command line [17:57] cli servers are much faster [17:58] now you have control of it everything should be easy [17:58] run this command [17:58] sudo apt-get update [18:00] I do get some Failed to fetch messages on some files [18:00] they are most likely language files [18:01] next command [18:01] sudo apt-get upgrade [18:01] busy [18:01] watch what it does [18:02] you need to run these commands on the other one as well [18:03] unless you use the update manager on the one with gui that is [18:04] the gui one will install lots of stuff [18:05] Since i'm going to use blender and grapics applications i'll need the GUI [18:06] so you want the gui on this one as well? [18:06] sjoe [18:07] on all - need to install blender on all of them to get the render farm working [18:07] ok tell me when upgrade is done [18:07] plus the GUI helps with us "newbies" :) [18:08] ya but unity is a bit heavy and slow [18:08] still running\ [18:08] seems to run ok on the gen4's [18:08] ok done [18:08] ok so speed not a prob [18:09] how much ram has this one got [18:09] 3 GB - most have 4GB [18:09] 3 should be ok [18:09] hi mage [18:09] oi [18:10] So upgrade done [18:10] ok now we need to decide on a desktop [18:11] are you comfortable with unity? [18:11] we have a guide somewhere as well [18:12] http://ubuntu-za.org/news/2012/06/21/unity-orientation-guide-ubuntu-1204-lts [18:12] I have tried ubuntu-desktop - Xubuntu and Kubuntu - The latter is misrable but seem to run smooth [18:12] But i'll tru ubuntu for now [18:12] lol i am using kubuntu here. it takes getting used to but seems to be more efficient and stronger [18:12] ok then here is the command [18:13] just want to see if you have aptitude installed but default [18:13] sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop [18:13] tell me what that says [18:14] s/but/by [18:15] crapload of errors: ends with unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages [18:16] sjoe [18:17] try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop [18:18] now where would the broken packages have come from on a new install [18:19]