[02:43] <buddhaxubuntu> Hey can anyone help me get a AWU-2000B 11 mbps usb adapter working in Xubuntu like it used to on Ubuntu One?
[02:49] <holstein> buddhaxubuntu: like it used to on ubuntu one? what does that mean?
[02:49] <holstein> buddhaxubuntu: oh, you mean, a device worked in ubuntu and not in xubuntu? its more likely you are comparing ubuntu 14.04 and xubuntu 14.10, or different versions
[02:51] <buddhaxubuntu> holstein: oh, yeah, sorry.
[02:52] <buddhaxubuntu> holstein: you have any idea, why? i have the linux drivers for the device but dont know how to install them
[02:52] <holstein> xubuntu *is* ubuntu, and has the sam kernel, and access to the same firmware packages in the repos
[02:52] <holstein> buddhaxubuntu: you typically *dont* need to install any drivers.. where did you get what drivers?
[02:52] <buddhaxubuntu> online
[02:53] <buddhaxubuntu> this device is a decade old, this usb 11mbps wlan device
[02:53] <holstein> buddhaxubuntu: great!.. maybe nail that down a bit, and tell me *exactly* where you aquired the driver you are talking about
[02:53] <buddhaxubuntu> i forget, but i remember it was very, very hard to find them.
[02:53] <holstein> buddhaxubuntu: since its so old, it could be broken,a nd you are assuming you are having a driver issue
[02:54] <buddhaxubuntu> it lights up when plugged in, but you may be right.
[02:54] <buddhaxubuntu> it has a green light on it.
[02:54] <holstein> buddhaxubuntu: let me put it this way, xubuntu isnt preventing that, or any device from working.. typically, drivers are just in the kernel, and the kernel is "modular"
[02:54] <buddhaxubuntu> holstein: understood.
[02:54] <buddhaxubuntu> holstein: but this device, it lights up its light when plugged in. still might not work?
[02:55] <holstein> buddhaxubuntu: but, i remember, from personal experience, fighting for hours with a device like that.. and trying different drivers.. *Then*, i tested in the officially supported operating system, windows, and discovered the device was broken
[02:55] <buddhaxubuntu> theres no windows 8.1 or windows 7 drivers for this device
[02:55] <buddhaxubuntu> and i only have windows computers running 7 or 8.1
[02:56] <holstein> buddhaxubuntu: i understand that friend, but *none* of that means the device isnt broken
[02:56] <buddhaxubuntu> and i dont feel like installing a virtual os of windows xp
[02:56] <buddhaxubuntu> holstein: i understand.
[02:56] <holstein> buddhaxubuntu: i have a pile of older 11mps gear, and *none* of it works anymore
[02:56] <holstein> buddhaxubuntu: im not saying yours is broken, im just saying, that its plausible that it could be, and you are assuming a driver issue, and troubleshooting that way
[02:57] <buddhaxubuntu> holstein: gotcha
[02:57] <holstein> you can swap drivers *forever* on a broken device like that.. wont help
[02:57] <holstein> buddhaxubuntu: what would i do? put the device in the machine, and, *if* its a usb device, i run "lsusb" in the terminal.. i then (if i see the device in lsusb) i run ifconfig
[02:57] <buddhaxubuntu> but windows detects it
[02:57] <holstein> buddhaxubuntu: detects? or uses it?
[02:58] <holstein> "detects" also doesnt mean its functional..
[02:58] <buddhaxubuntu> holstein: just detects but ill take ur advice
[02:58] <holstein> and, these days, you can get devices 10 times faster than that, that are supported "out of the box" in linux, for under $10 US
[02:58] <holstein> or, free, if you are in the right place at the right time..
[02:59] <buddhaxubuntu> holstein: you mean dumpster diving? lol. yeah i'd buy one but i have a wedding coming up with a pregnant fiancee and so on
[03:00] <holstein> buddhaxubuntu: sure.. but its literally the price of a few cups of coffee, for *way* "better" gear..
[03:01] <buddhaxubuntu> holstein: when i boot it has a black screen that talks about problems with vga, then a usb device and recommends developer.berlios.de/(something)
[03:02] <holstein> buddhaxubuntu: it?
[03:02] <holstein> buddhaxubuntu: you are referencing other issues with the same hardware?
[03:04] <buddhaxubuntu> yes. it doesnt like this old big block vga monitor i have. its been doing it ever since i switched the old machine to an older monitor. anyways, lsusb shows the usb 802.11b adapter but ifconfig doesnt show the wireless adapter
[03:05] <holstein> buddhaxubuntu: it just "showing" in lsusb doesnt mean its not broken, either..
[03:05] <holstein> buddhaxubuntu: what chipset does it say it is?
[03:05] <buddhaxubuntu> holstein: one sec, brb
[03:07] <buddhaxubuntu> holstein: Just says AIN Comm. Co, and AWU2000-B
[03:07] <buddhaxubuntu> err AWU2000B 802.11b Stick
[03:07] <holstein> buddhaxubuntu: you can run "lspci -vv" and share the line about the wireless device
[03:07] <holstein> buddhaxubuntu: im talking about the chipset.. not the model
[03:07] <holstein> !Paste | buddhaxubuntu
[03:09] <buddhaxubuntu> cant find the wireless device in lspci -vv
[03:10] <buddhaxubuntu> ubottu: i dont have internet on the computer in question
[03:10] <holstein> buddhaxubuntu: ubottu is just me talking to you
[03:10] <buddhaxubuntu> holstein: lol i see that now
[03:10] <holstein> buddhaxubuntu: should be "lsusb" instead of "lspci"..
[03:10] <holstein> so, try "lsusb -vv"
[03:13] <buddhaxubuntu> holstein: lsusb -vv doesnt show anychipsets for any of the devices, not even the mouse that works. says for all device could not be opened.
[03:14] <buddhaxubuntu> holstein: i mean lspci -vv showed two chipsets but that was it
[03:14] <holstein> buddhaxubuntu: sure, and i still think, either, that device is broken, or, doesnt support linux well
[03:15] <holstein> buddhaxubuntu: you can share that output with me i a pastebin
[03:15] <buddhaxubuntu> will do
[03:15] <buddhaxubuntu> but how do i get that machine online?
[03:15] <holstein> i plug a wire in the side
[03:16] <holstein> but, you can output to a file and a USB stick.. but, at best, you will fiddle with this for a *long* time, and get kind of a mediocre old device to probably work
[03:21] <xubuntu777> Hello?
[03:21] <holstein> o/
[03:23] <xubuntu777> Im new to linux... I am reinstalling linux because my last setup wouldn't let me login to the root... I never set a password on the Setup but I will this time. Was that the problem before?
[03:23] <holstein> xubuntu777: there is no root anymore like that
[03:23] <holstein> !root
[03:23] <holstein> xubuntu777: you dont need it..
[03:23] <xangua> why would you log in as root¿ xubuntu777
[03:23] <holstein> you *can* set that up, but, shouldnt, and shouldnt need to
[03:25] <buddhaxubuntu> holstein: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9470773/
[03:27] <holstein> buddhaxubuntu: if i wanted to use that device, and, there would be *many* other things i would do before doing that, i would use the windows xp driver in ndiswrapper
[03:27] <buddhaxubuntu> Thank  you
[03:28] <holstein> !Info ndisgtk
[03:28] <holstein> ^if ndisgtk is still in the repos, its an easy GUI for doing that
[03:30] <xubuntu72w> Hello. I have reinstalled Linux Xubuntu because I wasn't able to login to root via Ctrl + Alt + F1 to install my Graphics Card (Geforce GT 640).
[03:31] <xubuntu72w> Did I do somthing wrong before?
[03:31] <holstein> xubuntu72w: there is no "root"
[03:31] <holstein> !root
[03:31] <holstein> xubuntu72w: you dont need root, or TTY to install your graphics drivers
[03:31] <holstein> xubuntu72w: you can use "sudo" to install whatever packages you need
[03:33] <xubuntu72w> So how should I install this - http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-amd64-295.53-driver
[03:33] <holstein> xubuntu72w: i would install the driver in the repos
[03:34] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[03:35] <buddhaxubuntu> The .inf files are not working with ndisgtk
[03:35] <holstein> buddhaxubuntu: well, they are not advertised, or promised to
[03:35] <holstein> buddhaxubuntu: i try *all* the drivers i can find.. i found a driver from a dell site that made one work once. but, that was literally have trying about 40
[03:36] <holstein> after trying*
[03:36] <buddhaxubuntu> If it says invalid driver does that guarentee that it does not work?
[03:37] <holstein> buddhaxubuntu: does for me, but, the only guarantee you have is for windows support.. the rest is up to you and trial and error
[03:37] <xubuntu72w> I have the DVD from the box, is it any help at all?
[03:37] <buddhaxubuntu> There is a Mac driver too, should I try it on my Mac?
[03:38] <holstein> xubuntu72w: i dont know what "box" you are referencing, but, the nvidia driver is in the repos. you can search with the package manager of your choice, or use the GUI
[03:38] <holstein> buddhaxubuntu: i would. *if* i see it working somewhere im promised its supposed to work then i know the device is functioning
[03:39] <xubuntu72w> EVGA Dispay Driver Installation Disk v 13-690-99-3
[03:39] <holstein> xubuntu72w: unless the box states "we support xubuntu 14.04", or whatever operating system you are using, i wouldnt use that
[03:39] <holstein> xubuntu72w: i would install the driver that works with your hardware that is in the default repos, if there is one https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[03:44] <xubuntu72w> Just installed it...
[03:44] <xubuntu72w> Seems to have worked...
[03:44] <holstein> xubuntu72w: cheers.. enjoy
[03:46] <AgAu> and you only had to tell him 3 times!
[05:06] <xubuntu07w> Just checking to see what the md5 hash is for 14.04.1 i386
[05:09] <Unit193> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/trusty/release/MD5SUMS
[05:10] <xubuntu07w> awesome thanks
[05:10] <Unit193> Sure.
[09:55] <Wacky386> hello?
[09:55] <ObrienDave> helo
[09:56] <Wacky386> Im getting a prob here when installing nvidia drivers (xubuntu 14.04)
[09:57] <ObrienDave> okay, what sort of problem
[09:58] <Wacky386> it says cant find version.h when I run the driver installation file
[09:59] <ObrienDave> are you installing the repo version?
[09:59] <Wacky386> nope downloaded drivers from the website
[09:59] <Wacky386> .run file
[10:00] <ObrienDave> have you tried the repo versions?
[10:00] <Wacky386> um no
[10:01] <ObrienDave> well, not knowing anything about nvidia, i would start there. once you get a good install, then try the website version
[10:03] <ObrienDave> there's like 6 versions in the repos
[10:04] <Wacky386> trying it now
[10:04] <ObrienDave> and this site might be of use, http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/12/install-nvidia-340-65-ubuntu-1504/
[10:04] <Wacky386> thank you
[10:04] <ObrienDave> sure
[14:47] <darkad> Hi I installed ubuntustudio on a macbook, with two partitions , one for ubuntu and other one for data, I can't write on data partition, any help?
[14:50] <GrinchCube> darkad: is it mounted?
[14:51] <darkad> if I tye mount: /dev/sda3 on /media/darkad/archivio type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[14:51] <GrinchCube> what does "sudo fdisk -l" says?
[14:51] <GrinchCube> !pastebin
[14:52] <darkad> /dev/sda3  330688608 656307201 325618594 155,3G Linux filesystem
[14:52] <GrinchCube> mm
[14:52] <GrinchCube> it should work
[14:54] <GrinchCube> mmm maybe its on error and its remounte as ro
[14:54] <GrinchCube> try to umount it and remount it
[14:54] <darkad> ll says: drwxrwxr-t  3 root   80 4096 dic 11 11:39 archivio/
[14:56] <GrinchCube> mmm
[14:56] <darkad> I did it and I tried mkdir inside : denied permission
[14:56] <GrinchCube> try sudo mkdir
[14:57] <darkad> it works and result is ll : drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  4096 dic 11 15:56 prova/
[14:57] <GrinchCube> i wonder whats that t on the first ll
[14:58] <darkad> I just have copied same line of ssytem partition for the newer ext4 partition
[14:58] <GrinchCube> yes
[14:58] <darkad> on fstab
[14:59] <GrinchCube> mmm
[14:59] <GrinchCube> sorry
[14:59] <GrinchCube> i don't knowmore
[14:59] <darkad> fstab: UUID=20c36abc-83b4-44ff-b3fe-9ff2748b1240 /media/darkad/archivio/               ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       1
[14:59] <darkad> thanks anyway
[15:01] <GrinchCube> darkad: all i can think about is taht its owned by root
[15:02] <GrinchCube> maybe the folder you made inside the device can be changed of ownership
[15:02] <GrinchCube> but i don't know
[15:07] <darkad> Grinch I tried it and it's all right!
[15:07] <darkad> see you!
[15:07] <darkad> all
[15:21] <synks> I have to say, xubuntu is amazing. Been hopping between distros and this one outperforms others in speed, looks and simplicity by FAR. Very glad I stumbled on xubuntu.
[15:23]  * ochosi bows on behalf of the xubuntu team
[15:43] <aziz> since my update to 14.10 some apps aren't styled properly any more, like vlc, keepassx etc.
[15:44] <aziz> where can I find the settings for that? the settings manager doesn't help...
[15:49] <xangua> are those qt apps¿ if they are not following the gtk them you can install qt4-qtconfig to change it
[15:49] <xangua> !info qt4-qtconfig
[16:05] <amd> ciao a tt
[16:05] <amd> chi mi può aiutare?
[16:06] <slickymasterWork> !it | amd
[16:07] <amd> ok grazie
[17:31] <halpme> hi, please paste the wireless information link to try to solve a wireless connection problem
[17:31] <holstein> !wifi
[17:31] <holstein> halpme: ^
[17:31] <halpme> the thing with following the instructions is i fear I may break something in my laptop. Now is stable, only problme is, no wireless
[17:32] <halpme> i still havent found the usb stick to try the fresh install
[17:32] <holstein> halpme: have no fear.. have a proper backup, or clone, since *all* hard drives fail.. or experiement with a live iso
[17:34] <drc> halpme: But if you're that worried about not being able to follow the guides/instructions, I'd wait until I found my install media.
[17:35] <drc> Then backup and try it.
[17:35] <halpme> install media?
[17:35] <drc> In this case, your USB stick.
[17:38] <halpme> hehe:D
[17:39] <halpme> so, to state the obvious, if neither lspci nor lshw -C network dont detect any wireless device it means that the device is broken or I somehow hit the laptop and its nos diconnected
[17:40] <halpme> drop the "dont"
[17:44] <halpme> can anyone with a wireless connection paste the result for both commands?
[17:45] <xubuntu19w> hey. i'm a relative greenhorn. its my first try to have linux as mainsystem.
[17:45] <cfhowlett> !manual | xubuntu19w
[17:46] <holstein> halpme: for me, i will look at all hardware switches.. i have seen 2 cases, where, a switch was controlled from inside windows. look at the keyboard controls, and the side of the machine..
[17:46] <xubuntu19w> yes of corse. but my problem is a bit more advanced
[17:46] <halpme> ill have to open the unit
[17:46] <xubuntu19w> i have searched for a while in the inet to find a solution for my problem: i try to get my chromium cache to my ram disk at xubuntu 14.10
[17:46] <holstein> halpme: also, test in the officially supported operating system.. if, on "the box", the company states they support windows, and the device doesnt work in windows, then, there is a chance the device is broken
[17:47] <holstein> halpme: nothing i describe so far states to "open the unit"
[17:47] <halpme> thx holsteion
[17:47] <halpme> ok, apparently I cannot do anything untill i use a live cd
[17:47] <holstein> halpme: why?
[17:48] <halpme> holstein: didnt you suggest this approach? Also, to avoid misunderstandings, I dont need to plug in a wireless card, its embedded inside the laptop. The laptop was able to detect and connect to wireless connections
[17:48] <halpme> thats why I said "open the unit -laptop-
[17:48] <holstein> halpme: i suggested the live iso because you said you were "afraid" of losing your installation.. but, you *will* lost that when the hard drive fails
[17:49] <halpme> do you believe this is hard drive failure related?
[17:49] <holstein> halpme: you should have a proper backup in place, not out of fear of your testing and troubleshooting here, but, because *all* hard drives fail.. taking steps for that factual occurance, and having a proper safe guard will *also* allow you to experiment without fear
[17:50] <holstein> halpme: no.. i dont believe this is hard drive failure
[17:50] <holstein> halpme: im saying, since you stated "im afraid to experiment becuase i dont want to lose my installation".. that means you have no backup..
[17:50] <holstein> halpme: make a backup, and experiment, knowing that you can recover
[17:51] <halpme> holstein: ok, under settings Backups, enable automatic backups? can I do backups using this GUI or should I go termminal mode only?
[17:51] <holstein> halpme: i cant tell you what to back up, or how you want to back up.. i can tell you how i backup, which may or may not meet your needs
[17:52] <halpme> backup failed: ubuntu one has shut down...#
[17:52] <holstein> halpme: basically, what you need to do is, imagine you hit the power button on that machine, and *nothing* happens.. you *never* get back into that hard drive *ever* again.. wht data do you want from it? back that up
[17:52] <cfhowlett> halpme, OLD news.  shut down months ago after several alerts and warnings
[17:53] <halpme> but I mean, does it make sense to back up in your local folder, or anywhere in your hdd?
[17:53] <holstein> halpme: ill use http://clonezilla.org/ to make an exact clone of my OS, a "snapshot" basically, that i can revert to
[17:53] <holstein> halpme: only *you* know what "makes sense" for you, and what you need
[17:53] <halpme> ok...##
[17:53] <holstein> halpme: do what i suggested.. imagine that hard drive *never* works *ever* again, which *will* happen, and backup the data you would wish you still had..
[17:54] <halpme> holstein: where? online? another hdd?
[17:54] <halpme> would you suggest*
[17:54] <holstein> halpme: again, friend, i can only tell you what i do, which fits my needs
[17:54] <halpme> mmm....
[17:54] <holstein> halpme: i personally do a mixture.. but, i already suggested a tool i use that makes a clone of the os
[17:55] <holstein> halpme: also, *none* of this "fixes" your wifi, so, dont overthink it
[17:55] <halpme> :D
[18:01] <halpme> holstein: how often do you bakup?
[18:05] <holstein> halpme: its, again, personal.. its a matter of how often you create new content that you cant lose..
[18:27] <Hedgework> halpme: How often to back up is generally a trade-off between when you can afford the cycles and connection (e.g. laptops are usually less often than desktops because they aren't always on a sane connection, servers don't do large backup operations during peak hours because that would impact responsiveness for users), the cost of losing new data, the space and transfer available on the backup target, and the
[18:27] <Hedgework> rate at which data is changed/added/removed.
[18:28] <Hedgework> halpme: If you would find it helpful, I can give some examples.
[18:29] <halpme> xserver question: my screensaver runs slower than when I had the nvidia drivers installed. any tip to try and solve it?
[18:29] <cfhowlett> halpme, don' t run screensaver
[18:30] <GrinchCube> ^
[18:30] <drc> +1
[18:30] <Hedgework> halpme: I'm not a fan of screensavers, personally.  Each one renders a bit differently, so you probably have one that's using some specific 3d instruction set provided by a driver you don't have.  They usually aren't worth trying to bend your system around to accomodate.
[18:31] <drc> Unless you are using an old CRT, they are just cycle wasters (unless you like staring at pretty pictures).
[18:34] <Hedgework> They can be useful for mesmirizing infants.
[18:34] <Hedgework> :P
[18:34] <halpme> ok
[18:34] <Hedgework> *mesmerizing
[18:35] <Hedgework> bbiab
[18:35] <drc> And puppies
[21:22] <halpme> hi, whats the name of the loading masque*, blue masque* you see when loading xubuntu?
[21:22] <Poisoned_Dragon> Plymouth?
[21:22] <halpme> now I dont see any and Im wondering if you can put a picture instead, or your own animation
[21:41] <irgendwer4711> hi, ich bin etwas ratlos, updatedb mag den paramter "--localpaths" nicht, dabei steht er doch in der manpage
[21:42] <slickymaster> !de | irgendwer4711
[21:42] <irgendwer4711> oops
[21:42] <irgendwer4711> I tried to use updatedb, but it didnt like paramter "--localpaths".
[21:45] <halpme> hi again
[21:46] <halpme> im a college student and sometimes I find it a good idea to own an ipad (is that what they call it? a small internet connectable device to check bus timetables or your college mail)
[21:46] <halpme> thing is I wont get anything propietary
[21:46] <halpme> are there any linux options?
[21:49] <nomic> android
[21:49] <nomic> device = linux
[21:50] <drc> halpme: ipad as in tablet...sure...see android (as nomic suggests)
[21:51] <halpme> aint android propietary?
[21:52] <halpme> currently developed by Google? that kills it
[21:53] <drc> halpme: Nope.  According to wikipedia "Android's source code is released by Google under open source licenses, although most Android devices ultimately ship with a combination of open source and proprietary software"
[22:01] <mall> Hello, often or everytime the computer goes to sleep after being idle for a while, it comes back up with the message (I am translating from spanish): "power manager not authorized"
[22:01] <mall> I am on an asus eeepc , with latest xubuntu LTS
[22:01] <mall> can someone help trouble shoot this please?
[22:01] <mall> thank you