[04:22] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: Hi. Could you assign this task (http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2014/5848688911974400) to me please?
[08:41] <kranzer> Riddell: hi, can you review my task
[08:41] <kranzer> ?
[09:01] <sitter> Mirv: where does the 5.4 packaging live?
[09:07] <kranzer> Riddell: are you here?
[09:08] <Riddell> morning kranzer 
[09:08] <Riddell> yep will get to it shortly
[09:20] <Mirv> sitter: kubuntu-packaging, although the beta/rc adhoc ugly branches are only local. the spreadsheet linked from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/QtTesting has a list of branches, including those that are expected to be synced from Debian
[09:20] <Mirv> at some point I'll start pushing to the main qt* branches and if 5.3.2 needs updates push them to _532 instead
[09:25] <sitter> oh my such complicated
[09:25] <sitter> now I am tempted to add Qt to kubuntu CI xD
[09:31] <bukai> Riddell: ping
[09:43] <kfunk> f
[09:43] <Riddell> hi bukai 
[09:44] <kranzer> Riddell: pleeeeease, review it, pleeeease
[09:45] <Riddell> kranzer: yo, what URL again?
[09:46] <kranzer> http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2014/6431418615857152'
[09:46] <kranzer> http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2014/6431418615857152
[09:47] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: hello. Could you assign this task to me? http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2014/5848688911974400
[09:47] <Riddell> looking..
[09:47] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: do you know how to compile a .deb package?
[09:48] <Riddell> (hello, welcome along I should say first of all :)
[09:48] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: I'm not sure, but I read about backporting for Ubuntu
[09:49] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: by using backportpackage
[09:50] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: mm that might do it
[09:51] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: I tried to backport it and setup own ppa for testing. Now it's building on Launchpad
[09:53] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: oh? where?
[09:53] <Riddell> assigned
[09:54] <kranzer> Riddell: what about me?
[09:55] <Riddell> kranzer: icons look good, names not quite right yet
[09:55] <kranzer> Riddell: ohhhh
[09:55] <Riddell> kranzer: they should follow the same names and paths as in the source code so I don't have to rename anything
[09:55] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: https://launchpad.net/~egormatirov/+archive/ubuntu/calligra/+builds?build_state=building
[09:56] <Riddell> (the source code names/paths are different from those on an installed calligra)
[09:56] <Riddell> so ./plan/workpackage/pics/hi128-mimetypes-application-x-vnd.kde.kplato.work.png
[09:56] <Riddell> ./plan/workpackage/pics/hi128-mimetypes-application-x-vnd.kde.plan.work.png
[09:57] <Riddell> and ./plan/workpackage/templates/Simple/hi128-action-template_empty.png
[09:57] <kranzer> Riddell: so, I have even to create that folders
[09:57] <kranzer> ?
[09:57] <Riddell> kranzer: yes please
[09:58] <kranzer> okay
[09:58] <Riddell> and hisc-action-template_empty.svgz for the svg
[09:58] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: assigned
[09:58] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: thank you
[09:59] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: looking good, fancy doing the calligra-l10n package while that's compiling?
[10:00] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: cool. Ok, what do I need to do with it? Backport too?
[10:01] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: first make it for vivid (development release)
[10:01] <Riddell> then backport it
[10:01] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: it's a weird package because it's made up of lots of source tars
[10:01] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: there's a script in bzr co lp:~kubuntu-packagers/+junk/kubuntu-automation  ./calligra-l10n-package to do much of it
[10:02] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: ok, thanks. I'll try.
[10:05] <kranzer> Riddell: what is svgz?
[10:08] <kranzer> Riddell: I have renamed them, what's now?
[10:08] <kranzer> Riddell: maybe I need to swap them with the source code ones?
[10:12] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: hm. What should I use as "upstream version" for calligra-l10n-package? Looks like "2.8.7" is not working
[10:16] <kranzer> Riddell: done, new archive is in melange
[10:16] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: pastebin the command and output?
[10:17] <Riddell> hi Neo31!
[10:18] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: https://paste.kde.org/puvlguzva
[10:18] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: but looks like it works now
[10:20] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: ah I see a problem in the script, it assumes you can ssh/rsync from depot.kde.org
[10:20] <kranzer> Riddell: can you take a look?
[10:20] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: can I do it if I have KDE dev account?
[10:20] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: so you'll need to download the files from download.kde.org and change that in the script
[10:21] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: you'd need a special packager account for that access
[10:21] <Riddell> hi vinay_, how did the support case go?
[10:21] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: Ok, I got it. Thank you
[10:21] <Riddell> kranzer: checking out the source code myself, takes a while does this
[10:22] <kranzer> Riddell: okay, I understand
[10:26] <Riddell> kranzer: looks like wherever you took the code from is very different from git master, please make the tar so it only has the changed icons in it in the right paths
[10:27] <kranzer> Riddell: I tared the plan folder, it contains icons
[10:28] <kranzer> Riddell: I didn't change any code
[10:28] <kranzer> Riddell: and I didn't get sources by git
[10:30] <kranzer> Riddell: what to do?
[10:30] <Riddell> kranzer: make new directories with the same names
[10:30] <Riddell> put icons in it
[10:31] <Riddell> tar them
[10:31] <Riddell> include all the icons
[10:31] <Riddell> make my life easy :)
[10:43] <kranzer> Riddell: okay
[10:43] <kranzer> Riddell: I made your life easy :)
[10:43] <kranzer> Riddell: review
[10:46]  * Riddell looks
[10:48] <Riddell> kranzer: perfect
[10:48] <kranzer> Riddell: thank you!
[10:48] <kranzer> Riddell: it means that task closed?
[10:48] <Riddell> let me commit them
[10:49] <kranzer> Riddell: you mean git commit?
[10:49] <Riddell> kranzer: what's your e-mail?
[10:49] <Riddell> kranzer: yep
[10:50] <kranzer> Riddell: danikpastushchak90@gmail.com 
[10:51] <Riddell> groovy, pushed http://commits.kde.org/calligra/bb199c5b50076260a3e5810369ff60e3d4ce00a7
[10:51] <Riddell> kranzer: task closed, well done!
[10:51] <kranzer> Riddell: thanks
[10:52] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: calligra-data and other *-data packages were not built. Can you suggest anything?
[10:53] <kranzer> Riddell: don't you know when will new tasks be created?
[10:53] <kranzer> will be created*
[11:00] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: where?
[11:00] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: in https://launchpad.net/~egormatirov/+archive/ubuntu/calligra/+packages I can see calligra-data_2.8.7-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10.1~ppa1_all.deb
[11:01] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: it's arch:all (rather than arch:any) which means 1 .deb will work on all architectures because it's just data files so it only gets built on amd64 but used by all
[11:01] <Riddell> kranzer: when I think of them?  I can make another libreoffice icon name match task
[11:04] <sitter> pimlibs CI brrrrr
[11:06] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: oh, ok. Thank you
[11:12] <kranzer> Riddell: ohh, are there any other ones? 
[11:16] <Riddell> kranzer: still lots of icons on https://community.kde.org/KDE_Visual_Design_Group/LibreOffice_Breeze to match up if you want to do another 50
[11:18] <kranzer> Riddell: last time I found only 43
[11:19] <Riddell> kranzer: you think there aren't any others that match?
[11:20] <kranzer> Riddell: maybe, they are but I can't find them
[11:20] <Riddell> kranzer: the breeze icon artist has found a bunch without bothering to tell me you can check if there's any in there which we're missing https://github.com/NitruxSA/plasma-next-icons/tree/master/actions/LO_lc_icons_breeze
[11:24] <kranzer> Riddell: in that url are only actions
[11:25] <Riddell> kranzer: yep, I don't know how he selects which ones he uses, artists alas aren't very good at communicating with coders
[11:26] <kranzer> Riddell: )
[11:44] <sgclark> Riddell: my power was out most of yesterday/last night and I just got up, any news on this hangout? I likely will not be camera ready anytime soon, things are a mess
[11:45] <Riddell> sgclark: I hear it's a survival situation in portland, do you have enough food?
[11:46] <Riddell> sgclark: I think I'll set up an ec2 and rick can show it on 1 screen and show the hangout on another
[11:47] <sgclark> Riddell: great
[11:48] <Riddell> sgclark: I'm merging frameworks with kubuntu_unstable and going to do another upload
[11:48] <sgclark> Riddell: yeah trees down everywhere, it is a mess lol, my concern though is getting the 50 things I was working on when it went out back in order 
[11:49] <sgclark> Riddell: the frameworks I put in next staging or ?
[11:50] <sgclark> Riddell: I will need to see where the applications script got to and continue that
[11:50] <Riddell> sgclark: yep
[11:50] <sgclark> but first coffee
[11:51] <Riddell> sgclark: ok cool I'll do frameworks and plasma if you do applications
[11:51] <Riddell> sgclark: mind that applications isn't complete, some of them never got merged or updated for kf5
[12:02] <sgclark> Riddell: ok
[12:02] <Riddell> sgclark: or just say if you can't of course
[12:03] <sgclark> Riddell: I fixed initial upload to support applications. it can do most of the heavy lifting, I can go back and do what it can't manually np
[12:04] <sgclark> I am becoming a pythonista with this sok project lol
[12:06] <sgclark> blech it did not get all that far, running it now while I fix the rest of this mess
[12:09] <Riddell> I like the word pythonista
[12:09] <Riddell> worth learning python propertly, useful language and I head popular commercially too
[12:16] <sgclark> ok that is running, now to get my project back up and running..
[12:21] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:21] <sgclark> hiyas
[12:22] <BluesKaj> hi sgclark, what's up?
[12:22] <sgclark> recovering from a major power outage lol
[12:23] <BluesKaj> aha, my external drive was severly damaged by an outage a few weeks ago, it's toast
[12:24] <sgclark> ack
[12:24] <sgclark> so far things seem to be ok
[12:25] <sgclark> of course I have not looked outside to see what damage the wind did there
[12:29] <BluesKaj> glad we missed that one
[13:12] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: Could you please check calligra-l10n? https://launchpad.net/~egormatirov/+archive/ubuntu/calligra/+packages
[13:14] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: awesome!
[13:18] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: Should I submit this url to melange or I need to update ~kubuntu-ppa/ppa (I think I need your help in this case)
[13:19] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: just submit that URL, I'll check over the package and copy over to ~kubuntu-ppa/ppa
[13:19] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: done, thank you
[13:22] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: uploaded! https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calligra-l10n/1:2.8.7-0ubuntu1
[13:25] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: copied! https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+packages?field.name_filter=calligra&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=
[13:25] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: how do you fancy posting a story on the kubuntu.org website to finish off the task?
[13:28] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: Yes, of course. (But I know english bad). Can you suggest a bit what I should write?
[13:30] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: just copy and paste this and update the details http://www.kubuntu.org/news/calligra-2.8.1
[13:33] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: what have you done?
[13:34] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: oh you probably need to turn off javascript in konqueror to get it to work
[13:34] <EgorMatirov> Riddell:  just logged in
[13:34] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: at news/calligra-2.8.1 click edit and copy the body text
[13:35] <Riddell> create content -> news
[13:35] <Riddell> paste in text, update version and releae and backports should be updates ppa
[13:35] <Riddell> set a friendly url news/calligra-2.8.7
[13:35] <Riddell> and voila
[13:40] <EgorMatirov> Riddell:  ... are available for Kubuntu 14.10 and (15.04??)
[13:41] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: yep  14.10 and development version Vivid
[13:50] <EgorMatirov> Riddell:  ... alongside KDE SC 4.14 (or which one is in Kubuntu Updates PPA now?). And can I mention myself ("Thanks to for his help...")?
[13:51] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: I'll provide you a screenshot from preview (I'm not sure in myself), ok?
[13:52] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: there's nothing else in kubuntu updates ppa now just leave that blank
[13:52] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: yes by all means give yourself credit, also Sergey who did the calligra package for vivid
[13:53] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: screenshot is always nice
[13:59] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: http://hsto.org/files/b2b/96c/085/b2b96c085c614181a5a9bce5666ba3b2.png
[14:00] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: looks good
[14:01] <Riddell> http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/kf5-status/build_status_5.5.0_vivid.html
[14:01] <Riddell> http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/plasma-status/build_status_5.1.2_vivid.html
[14:01] <Riddell> sgclark: how's applications doing?
[14:03] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: done. http://www.kubuntu.org/news/calligra-287-out
[14:04] <sgclark> Riddell: I was told to wait for frameworks to be fixed
[14:04] <sgclark> Riddell: so I was working on the kf5 ports
[14:05] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: excellent, full marks, task closed :)
[14:06] <Riddell> sgclark: kf5 ports good, I'm not sure about this having a system which stops us from working on it
[14:06] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: thank you. It was interesting to learn how to update deb packages
[14:06] <Riddell> sitter: can't you turn off the CI if you want to work on making an ISO without fear of someone doing some updates in _archive branches?
[14:07] <sgclark> Riddell: yeah, I was just trying to help :(
[14:07] <sitter> can't you break things on the other 6 days?
[14:08] <sgclark> well
[14:09] <sgclark> I have plenty of other things to break, sorry to have bothered
[14:09] <sitter> but let's entertain the idea
[14:09] <sitter> when exactly should I turn off CI?
[14:10] <sitter> yesterday it broke an hour before the daily kicked in
[14:10] <sitter> last week I think it was broken early thursday
[14:10] <Riddell> sitter: turn off merging from _archive branches when you want to get the _unstable branches all built?
[14:10] <sitter> the week before that late friday
[14:10] <sitter> so sometime between wednesday and saturday the CI should be disabled because for reasons I can not apprehend all builds must turn red by friday
[14:11] <Neo31> hi Riddell 
[14:12] <Riddell> hi Neo31, want to become an elite kubuntu testing ninja?
[14:13] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: if you want a more complex task there's several phonon packages need an update
[14:13] <Neo31> :) some recommendations Riddell ?
[14:13] <Riddell> Tm_T: can you add Neo31 to the !testing call ?
[14:13] <Riddell> Neo31: hang around here and wait for things needing testing
[14:14] <Neo31> great Riddell :) thanks
[14:15] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: Hm. Are they really hard? (Since I haven't much experience in package building). Also, for how long will you online today?
[14:16] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: they're not hard one you get the basic structure of the package and the commands used
[14:17] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: I can set up a shared cloud server for you to work on and then I can see your work directory and help out when you get stuck
[14:19] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: I'm around for the next 6 hours or so
[14:20] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: I'm agree then. Cloud server would be nice if it's not very difficult for you.
[14:24] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: do you have a launchpad account with your ssh key in it?
[14:24] <sgclark> sitter: to be fair I do fix stuff the same day it breaks, this was a rare case that my power broke and I could not fix it
[14:25] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: without ssh key. (But I can make it)
[14:25] <yofel> hm, how do I change the qt4 font settings in plasma5?
[14:26] <yofel> nvm, found it
[14:26] <sitter> sgclark: I am not blaming you personally. as a community we consistently break things on friday and thursday only
[14:26] <sgclark> is that when KDE releases stuff?
[14:26] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2014/5907645928046592 (still needs to be approved I think)
[14:26] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/CreatingAnSSHKeyPair
[14:27] <Riddell> sitter: we break things every day of the week, I think CI should allow for that
[14:27] <yofel> *sigh* qtconfig doesn't fit on my screen with the large p5 ui...
[14:27] <sitter> Riddell: no we don't
[14:28] <sitter> we break things *exclusively* on thursday and friday
[14:28] <yofel> s/we/everyone/
[14:28] <kubotu> yofel: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed"
[14:28] <yofel> that's how life is
[14:28] <ScottK> Because that's right after KDE releases.
[14:28] <sitter> if something turns red on another day it's either because upstream did something or someone was trying to fix one of the many broken packages
[14:29] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: done: https://launchpad.net/~egormatirov 
[14:29] <ScottK> BTW, on the SRU team there is a rule not to release SRUs to -updates on Friday specifically to avoid the case of something broken and no one around to fix it.
[14:30] <yofel> yeah, but that's about releasing
[14:30] <yofel> if image building breaks from development done on friday you might just add that day to the weekend
[14:31] <sgclark> well then you need to add thursday, because of that rare case the persons power goes out for 8 hours and it is all red on Friday!! which is what started this whole thing
[14:35]  * Sick_Rimmit Ta Dah!!
[14:35] <Sick_Rimmit> hello everybody
[14:36] <sgclark> hiiyas
[14:40] <Sick_Rimmit> RIght, going to start putting together notes for tonight LUG Meeting
[14:40] <Sick_Rimmit> Anyone familiar with the Ubuntu Packaging guide
[14:40] <Sick_Rimmit> http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/
[14:41] <Sick_Rimmit> I have this sense that it half works, but that we have deviated from it, and deprecated some areas.
[14:42] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: yes, it covers UDD which not very many people like and certainly not in kubuntu
[14:42] <Riddell> so I generally advise against it
[14:43] <Sick_Rimmit> UDD please expand "Ubuntu Distributed Development" perhaps ?
[14:43] <Riddell> that's the one
[14:43] <Riddell> for every package in the archive it imports it into bzr
[14:43] <Sick_Rimmit> 10-4
[14:44] <Riddell> except it imports the upstream source /and/ the packaging
[14:44] <Riddell> which makes it horrifically complex
[14:44] <Sick_Rimmit> Ah, maybe that's why my brain collapsed trying to do it
[14:44] <Riddell> if it just imported the debian/ packaging directories that would be quite nice
[14:44] <Riddell> but alas no it feels the need to recreate version control for stuff which is already in version control (upstream)
[14:45] <mitya57> That has a "Traditional packaging" article which describes how to work without UDD
[14:45] <Riddell> yep
[14:45] <yofel> to be fair, the "official" gbp packaging workflow also keeps the upstream source in a branch - we just don't do that
[14:45] <Riddell> gbp?
[14:46] <yofel> git buildpackage? ^^
[14:46] <Sick_Rimmit> Looks like the getting setup page is about right..
[14:46] <Sick_Rimmit> http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/getting-set-up.html
[14:47] <yofel> yes, you'll want to do pretty much everything on that page
[14:49] <Sick_Rimmit> OK, Now in our KDE Community, quick flick through an I don't see a How to do packaging guide.. which is what I am hoping to write
[14:49] <Sick_Rimmit> Not in 2 hours this afternoon you understand, 
[14:49] <Sick_Rimmit> but just to get started.
[14:50] <Riddell> what do you want to cover?
[14:50] <Sick_Rimmit> But I don't want to duplicate, so I'm checking in here to see 
[14:51] <Sick_Rimmit> Ideally I want to take a newbie (like me) by the hand, from understanding, how Kubuntu uses Ubuntu principles
[14:51] <Sick_Rimmit> But also sources KDE software form upstream and works closely with them
[14:51] <Sick_Rimmit> then how to get setup
[14:52] <Sick_Rimmit> and have a crack at packaging your first rap
[14:52] <Sick_Rimmit> brb
[14:56] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: ssh ubuntu@ec2-54-224-243-43.compute-1.amazonaws.com   then run byoby
[14:56] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: ssh ubuntu@ec2-54-224-243-43.compute-1.amazonaws.com   then run byobu
[14:59] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: ok you're in
[14:59] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: this is a cloud server from amazon aws ec2 and we can both share the terminal through byobu (gnu screen)
[14:59] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: first thing is to update the phonon package to a new version
[15:00] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: do you know how to get started?
[15:00] <Riddell> work in ~/mnt, more disk space there
[15:00] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: task is still unavailable :(
[15:00] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: ok, got it
[15:02] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: shrug, someone will approve it at some point, I don't have access to do that
[15:09] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: so do you know where to start?
[15:09] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: sorry, I didn't saw this message ><: "first thing is to update the phonon package to a new version"
[15:09] <Riddell> that's it
[15:10] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: so, I need to update phonon's deb package. Got it
[15:10] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: it's a funny package because it builds phonon twice, once for qt4 and once for qt5
[15:11] <Riddell> but shouldn't be hard to just update to a new version
[15:13] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: I just exported some language settings to stop it complaining about not being spanish
[15:13] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: got it. thank you :)
[15:16] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: now I need to download latest release of Phonon and latest diff from package, right?
[15:19] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: download current package (apt-get source will do)
[15:19] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: download new tar from download.kde.org
[15:19] <Riddell> copy over debian/ packaging into new tar
[15:19] <Riddell> add changelog with dch
[15:19] <Riddell> build with debuild 
[15:20] <Riddell> check for problems :)
[15:21] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: oh what text editor do you know on terminal?
[15:21] <Riddell> I have EDITOR=emacs
[15:21] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: vim :)
[15:22] <Riddell> change that then
[15:22] <Riddell> emacs uses seem to be too rare these days
[15:22] <sgclark> Riddell: heh I tried, just been using vi for too long
[15:23] <sgclark> fun when nano opens up too, I have vi commands all over lol
[15:25] <yofel> yeah, it's always fun to watch people sitting before VI wondering how to get out
[15:26] <sgclark> lol
[15:26] <yofel> I usually need a couple seconds to remember how to quit nano when I see it...
[15:26] <sgclark> same
[15:26] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: copy and paste is your friend
[15:26] <BluesKaj> ctl+o,enter,ctrl+x iirc
[15:28] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: you just have a type in the package name, copy and paste it
[15:28] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: I already copy-pasted it o_O
[15:29] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: I think sgclark may not be able to make tonight 
[15:29] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: ouch, got it
[15:29] <sitter> the sad thing with nano of course is that it tells you what your shortcuts are even... except normal people don't know that ^ means ctrl. so that's the mootest thing ever
[15:29] <sgclark> right, I am too busy cleaning up messes from my power outage, I am so sorry :(
[15:29] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: sorry, I will wait your woorking with EgorMatirov, ping me when your clear
[15:30] <Sick_Rimmit> sgclark: It's all good, really no problem 
[15:30] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: now is fine
[15:30] <Riddell> sgclark: I should be able to manage don't worry
[15:30] <sgclark> thank you
[15:30] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: use  debuild -j2  on this dual core machine, it'll go twice as fast
[15:31] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: OK take a look at this http://exeter.lug.org.uk/index.php/projects
[15:31] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: hmm, not sure what happened, let me look
[15:31] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: This is what I will present to the group, after you..
[15:32] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: oh it's looking in the 4.8.2 sources, yuo need to change the version number in debian/changelog
[15:32] <Riddell> 4:4.8.2-0ubuntu2 -> 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1
[15:32] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: I think if oyu join us in Hangout, and talk about Kubuntu, the community and do a demo of packaging 
[15:32] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: something simple
[15:32] <shadeslayer> Riddell: btw I have violin class this evening, so idk if I can make it in time
[15:33] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: you will present it after me? not before?
[15:33] <Sick_Rimmit> I will record the hangout, and the 2nd laptop screen, I can merge this into a video later
[15:33] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: I was thinking about not taking too much of your time, or making to too late for you
[15:33] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: oh just rename the upstream tar to follow the pattern needed by .deb packaging
[15:33] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: same as the current one
[15:34] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: If we get you into Hangout at 8:55 (7:55 UK) 
[15:34] <soee> Frameworks 5.5.0 released :o
[15:34] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell:  could you take us through the packaging journey in around 30 minutes ?
[15:34] <Riddell> soee: I know (cos I released it) compiling away http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/kf5-status/build_status_5.5.0_vivid.html
[15:35] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: yep, any thoughts on what to package? a nice game maybe?
[15:35] <Riddell> ooh I wonder if the screensave would work
[15:35] <soee> ah cool :)
[15:35] <Riddell> d_ed: ping! does your screensaver work?
[15:35] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: Yes a game would be perfect, as we have a few youngsters that will appeal to
[15:37] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: On laptop 2 Shared SSH Terminal to EC2 (On Projector 2) I can run recordmydesktop to capture that stream
[15:37] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: If I set the Hangout up as onair it will pipe that to my YouTube channel for later, and I can download
[15:38] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: Then I can edit it all up in kdenlive, just as soon as I have packaged the patched libav files required to get the sound working in 15.04 ;-)
[15:39] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: Then I can embed that video in the web page I shared with you, and use this for the basis to flesh out a full Kubuntu packaging guide for us, along with Video (Which we can remake in better quality if you like )
[15:39] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: Maybe we could make a new video together at FOSDEM ??
[15:41] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: done, but not signed. What about it?
[15:41] <Riddell> I think fosdem will be too busy for that unless it's a video about beer!
[15:42] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: elite!
[15:42] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: checked the output from list-missing and lintian (in the build log) ?
[15:43] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: list-missing: empty. Lintian have 2 warnings
[15:44] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: what are the warnings?
[15:44] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: one about root rights. second is about out-of-date-standards-version
[15:44] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: ssh ubuntu@exeter.kubuntu.co.uk
[15:45] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: ok nothing important, we're good to upload
[15:45] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: run  debuild -S  to make the source "package"
[15:45] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: password ?
[15:45] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: exeter
[15:46] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: groovy
[15:46] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: debsign failed. Shoild I import my key? (And how can I do it?)
[15:47] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: great.  I'll sign it then you can upload it
[15:47] <Riddell> the ubuntu archive will only accept packages signed by ubuntu devs, reasonably enough
[15:48] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: I just ran  debsign  -r ec2-54-224-243-43.compute-1.amazonaws.com:/home/ubuntu/mnt/src/phonon/phonon_4.8.3-0ubuntu1_source.changes
[15:48] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: and you can see it's now got a pgp signature
[15:48] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: check the .changes file to be sure it's uploading the right things to the right release
[15:49] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: then   dput ubuntu foo.changes
[15:49] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: ok, cool. ( I need to sign only .changes file?)
[15:49] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: with debsign if you tell it to sign the .changes file it'll also sign the .dsc file
[15:50] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: debsign is usually ran as part of debuild but in this case my keys were not on the server (to stop you stealing my identity)
[15:52] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found
[15:54] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: oh  dput --something
[15:54] <Riddell> man dput  will know
[15:54] <Riddell> --unchecked maybe
[15:55] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: got it. Should I dput ubuntu phonon.(version,etc).changes,  right?
[15:56] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: yep
[15:56] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: done, thank you. (I wasn't sure about "ubuntu")
[15:57] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: hoorah, it'll appear at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/phonon and you can watch it there
[15:57] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: now you need to do the same thing for phonon-backends
[15:58] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: phonon4qt5-backend-gstreamer phonon-backend-gstreamer phonon-backend-vlc 
[16:04] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: does this screensaver work for you? http://blog.davidedmundson.co.uk/node/73
[16:05] <Sick_Rimmit> 1 sec
[16:06] <Sick_Rimmit> That's really cool, 
[16:07] <Sick_Rimmit> My Plasma5 Laptop is at work, so I have my 14.10 laptop and another Ubuntu 12.04 netbook
[16:07] <Sick_Rimmit> Aside though, I want that screensaver so I can show off to all the Windows 8 Goons in my office :-)
[16:08] <Sick_Rimmit> I was in a dev meeting yesterday, and the team saw Plasma5...
[16:08] <Sick_Rimmit> They we're all going OOOoooo Transparent windows wow
[16:08] <Sick_Rimmit> :-)
[16:09] <Riddell> the screensaver doesn't work for me so I guess that's no good to package
[16:09] <BluesKaj> plasma 5 on kubuntu 15.04 here... copy & paste is intermittent ...quite frustrating
[16:11] <Sick_Rimmit> Hey Dave_Edmundsons Telephathy stuff looks really really cool
[16:11] <Sick_Rimmit> http://vimeo.com/30065731
[16:12] <Riddell> that's oor d_ed 
[16:12] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: but it's also " 3 years ago"
[16:12] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: Ah well I hope he gets it working well. Can you imaging a click and drag = instant mega fireworks explosion..
[16:13] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: Proper sound effects would be good to, rather than making the noises youself ;-)
[16:13] <BluesKaj> never thought of telepathy as cool :)
[16:18] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: -j2 not -j3, else you'll kill the server
[16:19] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: ouch, sorry.
[16:20] <Sick_Rimmit> BluesKaj: really! I I am a big fan of video conf, I would like to see telepathy doing that stuff really well
[16:22] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: could you sign it please?
[16:24] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: in the debian/control files can you change  Maintainer: Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers  to  Maintainer: Debian/Kubuntu Qt/KDE Maintainers
[16:24] <BluesKaj> Sick_Rimmit, just teasing, never used telepathy:)
[16:24] <Riddell> that'll keep things happier
[16:25] <Sick_Rimmit> BluesKaj: No neither for me, only just started looking at it, but the video link^ shows some nice Plasmoid integrations]
[16:25] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: what's about mail? Sould I add something?
[16:26] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: nope that's all good
[16:26] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: and should I do debuild again?
[16:26] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: debuild -S  yes
[16:29] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: done
[16:29] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: signed!
[16:30] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: phonon all compiled https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/phonon/4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1
[16:30] <Riddell> it'll get some automated checks before going into the archive
[16:33] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: done
[16:33] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/phonon-backend-vlc/0.8.2-1ubuntu1 and https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/phonon-backend-gstreamer/4:4.8.1-1ubuntu0
[16:33] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: yay, well done, I'll close the task
[16:35] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: oh I think you need to upload something
[16:35] <Riddell> upload the .changes file if you can't think of anything else
[16:35] <Riddell> and link to the links you pasted above
[16:35] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: I already uploading links to launchpad
[16:36] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: hmm, I don't have a close button
[16:36] <Riddell> maybe you were too fast :)
[16:36] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: I didn't upload last one yet :)
[16:37] <Riddell> maybe you need to ask for a review
[16:37] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: done. (I just wanted to have all 3 links attached)
[16:39] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: closed! well done.  you can join the yellow belts team if you want a badge or to keep helping with kubuntu packaging :) https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas-yellow-belts
[16:39] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: thank you very much! This task was very cognitive for me
[16:49] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: can I shut down the ec2 server?
[16:50] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: yes, of course
[16:51] <soee> Riddell: calligra 2.8.6 is not availabel in Vivid ?
[16:51] <soee> *2.8.7
[16:52] <Riddell> soee: it's in vivid-proposed, testing encouraged
[16:52] <Riddell> but things are getting a bit blocked by some regression in the automated tests
[16:53] <soee> ah ok, wher ecan i find some girt repository to check latest Plasama chnages ?
[16:53] <Sick_Rimmit> I think this might be in the wrong place
[16:54] <Sick_Rimmit> It is my formal application to become a Kubuntu member :-)
[16:54] <Sick_Rimmit> https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/Meetings
[16:54] <sgclark> +1
[16:54] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: ooh exciting
[16:54] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: but it should be just a link there, put your info at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RickTimmis
[16:55] <Sick_Rimmit> Ah ha - right o
[16:55] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: I got the fireworks running so I'll package that in the talk
[16:55] <Sick_Rimmit> Ah that's brilliant
[16:55] <soee> are you going to stream this talk ? :)
[16:56] <Riddell> it'll be on a google hangout, dunno if Sick_Rimmit will let others join
[16:56] <Sick_Rimmit> Yep certainly can, am happy to make it public
[17:00] <soee> the framneworks will land in vivid any soon ?
[17:00] <soee> 5.5
[17:00] <Riddell> soee: testing needed for frameworks and plasma
[17:00] <Riddell> soee: ppa:kubuntu-ppa/next-staging
[17:01] <Riddell> but frameworks is incomplete http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/kf5-status/build_status_5.5.0_vivid.html
[17:01] <soee> so it sbetter to wait a bit
[17:13] <Sick_Rimmit> Shiny membership application profile https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RickTimmis#preview
[17:13] <Sick_Rimmit> You can tell I got a day off from work today
[17:16] <sgclark> Sick_Rimmit: where is the testimonials section? :)
[17:16] <Sick_Rimmit> Oh, let me check that..
[17:18] <Sick_Rimmit> Tis there now
[17:18] <sgclark> ty
[17:23] <sgclark> Sick_Rimmit: got my testimonial in :)
[17:25] <Sick_Rimmit> Bless you Scarlet.... shucks I have a big smile on my face now. Thank You
[17:32] <sgclark> so sitter Riddell will it be safe to work on applications my afternoon? in theory you all will be gone
[17:34] <Riddell> sgclark: it's safe now, sitter made his cd image from yesterday's images
[17:34] <sgclark> ahh ok great
[17:34] <Riddell> sgclark: and also don't let him bully you, if ci breaks that's a ci problem, no reason why we should care
[17:34] <Riddell> he's such a mean bully is sitter
[17:35] <sgclark> lol
[17:35] <Riddell> you have to watch for the ones in bow ties, they're always the nasty ones
[17:35] <sgclark> bowties are cool
[17:36] <Riddell> that's what they said about fezes and look how that turned out
[17:36] <sgclark> lol
[17:37] <ScottK> The problem may be limited to Austrians with Fez.
[17:38] <Sick_Rimmit> On our https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/Membership page we have
[17:38] <Sick_Rimmit> The regular way to apply for membership is to provide your information on the Kubuntu/Meetings page
[17:38] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: do you have a plasma 5 machine with you?
[17:38] <Sick_Rimmit> No, it is at work
[17:38] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: will you for the lug?
[17:39] <Sick_Rimmit> No, this laptop is 14.10 but it using standard Plasma4
[17:39] <Riddell> soee, sgclark: anyone able to test this .deb? starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/fireworks_0.0~1-0ubuntu1_all.deb
[17:39] <sgclark> Riddell: sure
[17:39] <Riddell> it's really important, I feel this fireworks screensaver could help make it the year of the linux desktop
[17:40] <Riddell> especially because it has the voice of d_ed as the sound effect
[17:40] <Sick_Rimmit> I believe 2015 is the year of the Linux Desktop
[17:40] <Riddell> it will be once we have fireworks on the desktop
[17:40] <sgclark> ooooh
[17:40] <Sick_Rimmit> It's been my annual Mantra since 2001 :-)
[17:41] <Sick_Rimmit> It's tempting to update this laptop to Plasma5 but I get this sense I will break everything
[17:41] <sgclark> err
[17:41] <Sick_Rimmit> then I will be panicking to get stuff setup at the meeting
[17:41] <sgclark> where do I set screensavers? seems I am having a old person moment
[17:42] <Riddell> sgclark: it's a wallpaper not a screensaver
[17:42] <Riddell> sgclark: on desktop right click -> desktop settings
[17:42] <sgclark> oh
[17:42] <Riddell> sgclark: wallpaper type (second drop down box) -> fireworks
[17:42] <sgclark> hmm desktop settings not there
[17:42] <Riddell> huh?
[17:42] <Sick_Rimmit> Can anyone point me in the direction of the council meetings schedule, I would like to add my application for membership to the agenda if possible
[17:43] <sgclark> got to it another way
[17:43] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: there's no schedule you have to schedule a meeting
[17:43] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: we're not making this easy on you!
[17:43] <Riddell> sgclark: make sure you turn no the pow pow pow
[17:43] <Riddell> turn on
[17:43]  * Sick_Rimmit wonders whether sgclark can keep up with me of old person moments ;-)
[17:44] <Sick_Rimmit> I like scheduling meetings, do we have place for that ?
[17:44] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: doodle.com
[17:44] <sgclark> Riddell: well it installed and I selected it, but all I see is a lovely skyline, no sounds or anything
[17:44] <Riddell> sgclark: click on it?
[17:44] <Sick_Rimmit> tee hee
[17:44]  * Sick_Rimmit grins
[17:45] <Sick_Rimmit> Peewoo, peewoo, woosh
[17:45] <Sick_Rimmit> pop, bang
[17:45] <sgclark> nothing, but I am sure it is my machine, it has been behaving oddly for some time
[17:45] <Sick_Rimmit> :-(
[17:46] <Riddell> sgclark: click above the skyline?
[17:47] <sgclark> Riddell: I have clicked all over lol
[17:47] <Riddell> meh
[17:47] <sgclark> lol
[17:47] <sgclark> omg
[17:48] <Sick_Rimmit> Hey
[17:48] <Sick_Rimmit> Ha ha
[17:48] <sgclark> that scared the beeggees outta me
[17:48] <Sick_Rimmit> I wish I had it
[17:48] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: so will you have a plasma 5 machine at the lug?
[17:48] <sgclark> Riddell: so yeah it works on the default activity...
[17:48] <Riddell> sgclark: oh but you were on another activity?
[17:48] <sgclark> Riddell: right, my packaging one
[17:48] <Sick_Rimmit> Well the only thing I could do is apt-get plasma5 on this laptop, but if it goes bang we're stuffed
[17:49] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: I don't suppose anyone in the lug has one?
[17:49] <yofel> you could just run virtualbox fullscreen 
[17:49] <Sick_Rimmit> Ooh
[17:50] <Sick_Rimmit> yofel: genius..
[17:50] <Sick_Rimmit> Lets try it
[17:50] <yofel> That's what I did in Munich to give the impression of being modern :P
[17:50] <Riddell> :)
[17:51] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: so in two hours the hangout will start?
[17:51] <Sick_Rimmit> Yes that's correct
[17:52] <Sick_Rimmit> lol
[17:53] <Sick_Rimmit> sorry lol, was at a much earlier comment, my IRC window wasn't fully scrolled down
[18:04] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: With the Travel and Accomodation costs at FOSDEM, it there any help available with those ?
[18:05] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: there is for kubuntu members yes
[18:05] <Riddell> and food
[18:05] <Riddell> and anything else you can claim for
[18:06] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: OK that's really useul. I trust it's a post expenditure claim, supported with receipts /
[18:06] <Sick_Rimmit> ?
[18:06] <Riddell> I've never bothered to send receipts
[18:06] <Riddell> although they did ask for them
[18:06] <Riddell> once
[18:07] <Riddell> it's from donations given by for use by ubuntu community flavours, it's our money so we shouldn't let it go to waste
[18:08] <sgclark> Riddell: err really? I was told food was not covered by valorie
[18:08]  * sgclark wishes she knew it was...
[18:08] <Riddell> I just claim for everything
[18:09] <Riddell> sgclark: just put in another claim if you have more to claim for
[18:09] <sgclark> heh now I know , that hurt lol
[18:09] <sgclark> I did not save reciepts.. :( I know for next time though
[18:10] <Riddell> I really wonder why these frameworks packages need a manual retry
[18:10] <Riddell> launchpad should be smart enough to work it out
[18:10] <Riddell> it's most annoying
[18:15] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: OK, well I can collect receipts and provide them, help with travel and accomodation would be brilliant, I'm happy to cover any other costs 
[18:16] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: really it's money sitting in canonical's bank account that is intended for us to use, if we don't use it all those donations will have gone to waste, don't be afraid to claim on  it
[18:16] <Riddell> beer included
[18:17] <Sick_Rimmit> Can we use it to get some promo stuff for the FOSDEM Stall ?
[18:18] <Riddell> hmm, good idea
[18:18] <Sick_Rimmit> Let me share something with you on G+ give me 2 minutes
[18:24] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: Hopefully I just shared some photos of my event stand with you.
[18:24] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: I own this beast, not the Big Screens.
[18:24] <Riddell> I see them
[18:24] <Riddell> which beast? the background?
[18:25] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: I was looking at UK Conferences, if we had some Kubuntu Artwork made to hang of this, we could use it at Shows and Events ;-)
[18:25] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: UKIP? you a farage fan?
[18:25] <Sick_Rimmit> The whole stand, Backdrop, reception desk, small monitor
[18:26] <Sick_Rimmit> Nah
[18:26] <Sick_Rimmit> theunituk.com is a Alt Media news channel project that I worked on
[18:27] <Sick_Rimmit> But the stand belonged to my company Abazander.com
[18:27] <Sick_Rimmit> The artwork backdrop is just screenprinted vinyl, same for reception desk.
[18:28] <Sick_Rimmit> Just an idea
[18:30] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: well yes we want something
[18:30] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: although it's mostly a KDE stand not kubuntu :)
[18:32] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: here's what we get http://dot.kde.org/sites/dot.kde.org/files/KDE_eV_in_action_big.jpg
[18:32] <Riddell> a table
[18:33] <Riddell> with glass we can stick stuff to if we need to
[18:33] <Riddell> so some kde posters on that would be great
[18:33] <Riddell> not sure there's space for your stand however
[18:35] <Riddell> for some reason they put us next to gnome
[18:36] <Riddell> so far we've avoided coming to blows
[18:36] <Sick_Rimmit> Right, well we're not taking my stand then :-)
[18:38] <Sick_Rimmit> I love gnome, that is that new goupon savers voucher right? 
[18:38] <Sick_Rimmit> lol
[18:38] <Riddell> meh, KDE needs to be sued by someone like that, gnome got loads of money from that
[18:38] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: we need posters and stickers organised, anything you can help with?
[18:39] <Sick_Rimmit> Any jip from the Gnome table will be firmly rebuked with Groupon comments
[18:39] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: Sure, got any artwork, or do we need that too ?
[18:40] <rberg_> ohh I want that K heart shirt so badly
[18:41] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: last year I got these .svgs made into stickers for namebadges http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/2014/
[18:41] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: ordered the stickers on vistaprint
[18:41] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: so they probably want being updated with the plasma 5 wallpaper and the year updated and they're good
[18:42] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: 
[18:42] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: OK, I'll look into this
[18:44] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: for posters I've got some cloth ones from these people before http://www.flags.co.uk
[18:44] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: just use KDE logo and maybe Plasma 5 image or other easy clipart
[18:51] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: I'll put you down for posters and name badge stickers if that's ok?
[18:51]  * Riddell goes to get food before the talk
[18:51] <Sick_Rimmit> NP
[19:00] <Riddell> hi my_names_dave 
[19:01] <alket> hello dave :)
[19:06] <Riddell> sitter: hmm all this CI and I still need to add a new build-dep to ktexteditor and new files in plasma-desktop
[19:10] <Riddell> oh we need a newer git :(
[19:17] <Riddell> soee: frameworks and plasma good to test now
[19:17] <Riddell> in ppa:kubuntu-ppa/next-staging
[19:17] <Riddell> !testers | KF5 and plasma in ppa:kubuntu-ppa/next-staging
[19:18] <alket> thanks
[19:19] <Sick_Rimmit> OK, off to the meeting be back in IRC in about 20 minutes
[19:20] <sgclark> I have never heard of half the people on that list lol
[19:22] <Riddell> the ones you don't know will be people who come in saying "i want to help test kubuntu" like neo31 did today and i get them added to that and they never come back
[19:22] <Riddell> let's see if neo31 comes back
[19:23] <sgclark> ahh :) might you add me, I think I have tested an item or two :)
[19:23] <Riddell> Tm_T: please add sgclark and neo31 to !testers call
[19:23]  * sgclark never comes back
[19:24] <Riddell> nooo, come back! we still need these applications packages!
[19:25] <sgclark> ksnakeduel in not in kubuntu_vivid_archive, kf5 port?
[19:25] <sgclark> lol
[19:25] <sgclark> almost done, just packaging the ports while I am at it
[19:26] <Riddell> sgclark: ksnakeduel is weird, it's named ktron in debian I think
[19:26] <Riddell> because that's the old name in kde
[19:26] <Riddell> and it half changed it's name in kde
[19:26] <Riddell> although sometimes it's called kdesnake too
[19:26] <Riddell> and I've not found who to ask if I can just tidy up the mess
[19:26] <sgclark> oh hmm ok clear as mud lol
[19:26] <Riddell> anyway us and debian have different source and binary package names
[19:27] <sgclark> so try ktron in this script... or ?
[19:27] <Riddell> hmm, maybe leave it for now
[19:28] <sgclark> setting aside then
[19:28] <Riddell> and we can sort it out upstream with one name and get that name used in debian and all will be happy
[19:28] <sgclark> ok
[19:28]  * Riddell adds trello item
[19:40] <yofel> do sort it out upstream please, a ktron.desktop which launches "KSnakeDuel" is just confusingf
[19:40] <yofel> FWIW, the binary is still named ktron as well
[19:41] <soee> Riddell: will test frameworka and plasma later when ill be at home
[19:42] <sgclark> Riddell: err what is the story on libkface
[19:43] <Riddell> sgclark: it's a new package
[19:43] <Riddell> currently part of digikam I think
[19:43] <Riddell> needs doing from scratch
[19:43] <Riddell> and watching out how it fits with the version from digikam
[19:43] <sgclark> ahh ok, going on my deal with later list :)
[19:45] <Riddell> manana as we say in catalunya
[19:46] <sgclark> hehe
[19:50] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit!
[19:52] <Riddell> https://plus.google.com/u/0/events/cmttq6lf7jb5hpch3k8ke5s6ir4  something happening
[19:52] <Riddell> not sure what
[19:53] <Riddell> soee: ↑
[20:08] <yofel> the version from digikam is < 0 IIRC, so that should be no problem
[20:08] <yofel> for us, debian will need a breaks/replaces: digikam-extra-libs or so
[20:45] <shadeslayer> how's it going with the hangout
[20:48] <Riddell> shadeslayer: you just missed it
[20:48] <shadeslayer> Riddell: aw :(
[20:48] <shadeslayer> I just got free
[20:49] <Riddell> it was awesome, we were dancing on the tables, you missed out
[20:54] <sgclark> Riddell: it is still uploading but all but the few oddballs are done
[20:55] <shadeslayer> on the tables? :O
[20:55] <shadeslayer> I'm sure there's a recording
[20:55] <sgclark> one port done, working on kig now
[20:59] <Riddell> sgclark: excellent, great stuff!
[20:59] <Riddell> and kf5 and plasma are good to upload to the archive
[20:59] <Riddell> then hopefully we can backport to utopic
[20:59] <Riddell> but now it's friday and I need to go home, adios!
[21:00] <sgclark> have a good weekend
[21:40] <soee> back
[21:41] <soee> Riddell: so frameworks and plasma dont need testing anymore ? approved to move to archive ?
[21:47] <soee> sgclark:  ^ ?
[21:48] <sgclark> soee: still needs testing afaik
[21:51] <Sick_Rimmit> sgclark: Hi Scarlet
[21:51] <Sick_Rimmit> I'm here with the LUG group
[21:51] <sgclark> hiyas
[21:52]  * Sick_Rimmit waves to s
[21:52]  * Sick_Rimmit to soee
[21:53] <Riddell> hi Sick_Rimmit 
[21:53] <Riddell> hi lug
[21:53] <Riddell> soee: yes they need tested!
[21:54] <Sick_Rimmit> Hi, we're just looking around at tLP, Kunbuntu CI etc..
[21:55] <soee> Riddell: but they are not ready yet right? is see one red on kf5 list
[21:58] <sgclark> version incorrect, what is that?? lol
[21:58] <Riddell> soee: that's fine it's just the scripts confused by the version number
[21:58] <Riddell> extra-cmake-modules has a different version number to the rest for some reason
[21:58] <sgclark> ahh yes right, never saw that before though, that I recall anyway
[22:00] <Riddell> sgclark: I changed the script to include it, previous it only included anything with the same version number which missed out bits
[22:00] <sgclark> ahh
[22:00] <sitter> Riddell: there is no newer git
[22:02] <Riddell> sad
[22:02] <soee> is there anything else in next-stageind except kf5 and plasma ?
[22:02] <sgclark> Riddell: err  kdelibs5-dev >= 4:14.12.0 this is confused as I am I think
[22:02] <sgclark> soee: well applications I hope to finish today, still building though
[22:02] <Riddell> hmm so I'm releasing something which needs an unreleased library, great
[22:03] <sgclark> oh
[22:03] <sgclark> that is not good
[22:03] <Riddell> sgclark: ah probably kdelibs5-dev needs removed from kf5-dev-latest-vivid.txt
[22:03] <Riddell> or whatever it's using
[22:05] <sgclark> oh hmm, well the damage is done with these packages
[22:05] <sgclark> remove the version requirement?
[22:05] <Riddell> can do
[22:05] <sgclark> change to kdelibs5-dev
[22:06] <sgclark> ?
[22:06] <sgclark> ok
[22:06] <sgclark> bash scriptyness coming up
[22:06] <soee> sgclark: so ping me when they ready ill do mass update :D
[22:07] <sgclark> soee: ok
[22:10] <Sick_Rimmit> Thanks folks, we closing up now
[22:10] <Sick_Rimmit> see you soon
[22:11] <Sick_Rimmit> bye
[22:20] <Riddell> soee: kf5 and plasma is ready now
[22:21] <soee> hmm i have phonon-backend-vlc intalled but it is not listed on teh list in system settings, i see only gstreamer, is vlc banned maybe somehow ?
[22:22] <soee> Riddell: ppa:kubuntu-ppa/next-staging right ?
[22:22] <soee> can i upgrade only frameworks and plasma and leave apps ifg they are tehre also ?
[22:23] <sgclark> apps are in ninjas
[22:23] <soee> ahh :)
[22:24] <soee> i thought you said they are in staging, my fault
[22:26] <soee> ok this packages are going to be removed: libfam0 libgit2-21 libhttp-parser2.1 qml-module-org-kde-extensionplugin qml-module-org-kde-kio
[22:40] <soee> Riddell: not a single error during upgrade, rebooted and all works stable