[00:55] <Kwisher> i am seeing these types of errors a lot: ERROR when trying to delete file: GetPlaybackURL/UNABLE/TO/FIND/LOCAL/FILE/ON/garage/2013_20141212001739.mpg. File doesn't exist.  Database metadata will not be removed.
[01:04] <tgm4883> Kwisher: does that file exist somewhere?
[01:05] <Kwisher> no, i ran the find command on my myth recordings/livetv partition and it is not there
[01:06] <Kwisher> this message appears when i delete a recording, is that normal?
[01:06] <Kwisher> in the b/e log
[01:08] <Kwisher> the files are getting removed as i see the total storage amount decreased
[01:14] <tgm4883> Kwisher: no not normal
[01:14] <tgm4883> Kwisher: it should delete both
[01:19] <Kwisher> any idea how to fix the problem?
[01:23] <tgm4883> Kwisher: can you post more of the logs when you go to delete the file?
[01:23] <Kwisher> ok, getting ready to delete one now
[01:27] <Kwisher> http://dpaste.com/1KFK621
[01:32] <Kwisher> where is the metadata stored?
[01:34] <tgm4883> weird
[01:34] <tgm4883> What filesystem are you using for recordings?
[01:34] <Kwisher> ext4
[01:35] <tgm4883> How about your setup? Separate FE and BE? Are you recordings stored on a NAS?
[01:36] <Kwisher> one b/e, 2 f/e, storage is local on the b/e
[01:37] <tgm4883> on your BE, can you run 'dpkg -l | grep mythtv-backend' and paste the output
[01:38] <Kwisher> ii  mythtv-backend                              2:0.27.4+fixes.20141210.ea73ed3-0ubuntu0mythbuntu2 amd64        Personal video recorder application (server)
[01:38] <Kwisher> ii  mythtv-backend-master                       2:0.27.4+fixes.20141210.ea73ed3-0ubuntu0mythbuntu2 all          Metapackage to setup and configure a "Master Backend" profile of MythTV.
[01:39] <tgm4883> Kwisher: I'm not sure why it's doing that, it appears there was a bug related to that fixed 17 months ago, but you would have the fix by now
[01:40] <tgm4883> Kwisher: you could try touching the file and seeing if it will delete it from the DB when you try to delete it again
[01:40] <Kwisher> you lost me there
[01:41] <tgm4883> Kwisher: so on your backend in your recordings storage group you would do "touch 2013_20140813022644.mpg". That will make an empty file with that name. Then make sure it's owned by the mythtv user by doing "sudo chown mythtv 2013_20140813022644.mpg". Then try deleting it from the frontend again
[01:42] <Kwisher> if i create the file after deleting it, how does it get back in the DB?
[01:42] <tgm4883> That log you posted has 3 files listed in it
[01:42] <tgm4883> Kwisher: you're getting those error messages which means it's already in the DB
[01:42] <tgm4883> (which is the issue)
[01:42] <Kwisher> ahh
[01:47] <tgm4883> Kwisher: that happens on newly deleted recordings too?
[01:47] <Kwisher> the created file does not show up in the recordings on f/e
[01:47] <Kwisher> yes, the log i gave you was right after i deleted from f/e
[01:48] <tgm4883> wait, so the file doesn't exist on the frontend, and it wasn't on the filesystem either?
[01:48] <tgm4883> even if you exit and reenter the recordings screen?
[01:49] <Kwisher> nope, not in the recordings but the file i creted is on the b/e
[01:51] <tgm4883> man that is super weird. I wonder why if it's not in the FE, and not on the BE, that it still thinks in in the DB
[01:52] <Kwisher> wait, those filenames are from last year 2013*.mpg
[01:52] <tgm4883> Kwisher: I'd take this to #mythtv-users and ask in there. To clear up the old ones you could run https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Find_orphans.py but they might want you to get some info before you run it
[01:52] <tgm4883> no, that 2013 should be the chanid
[01:52] <Kwisher> ahh
[01:53] <tgm4883> One is from 20140813
[01:53] <Kwisher> duh, slaps forehead
[01:53] <tgm4883> I believe it's CHANID_YYYYMMDDHHMMSS.mpg
[01:53] <tgm4883> that that time part is start time I believe
[01:54] <Kwisher> is find_orphans.py included with myth or do i have to create it from your link?
[02:00] <tgm4883> You would need to download it
[02:04] <Kwisher> running the script reveals that all orphans are livetv files, not recordings
[02:14] <Kwisher> i think it's a DB issue
[02:22] <tgm4883> Kwisher: have you tried switching to the live tv group and deleting them
[02:25] <Kwisher> where and how do i do that?
[02:25] <tgm4883> sec
[02:25] <Kwisher> looked in mythweb
[02:26] <tgm4883> in the recordings screen, highlight all programs and hit M
[02:26] <tgm4883> You should see a few groups in the pop up. Change the filter to live tv
[02:30] <Kwisher> no livetv option
[02:32] <Kwisher> maybe the b/e isn't setup correctly, ie the livetv group
[02:37] <Kwisher> ok, found the option in the menu for livetv but nothing is listed
[02:38] <Kwisher> i'll check the livetv group on the b/e tomorrow
[02:40] <Kwisher> thx for your help
[19:45] <Ugb3> Hi, I have used this guide http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/FreeBox to get my isp iptv working but with no luck, when I press watch tv the screen just blink and nothing happens, anyone could help me ?
[19:47] <Ugb3> I don't see anything wrong in the log, I can post them if needed.
[19:48] <Ugb3> If fact there are thing that look wrong but I don’t understand what is wrong.
[19:55] <Ugb3> log here : http://paste.ubuntu.com/9493264/
[20:33] <Ugb3> Hey guys, i'm trying to make Mythtv work with IPTV on my ubuntu machine, but after having configured everything like in the guides, when I press watch TV it just flash and get back to the UI, anyone could point me the right direction ? Here is my log : http://paste.ubuntu.com/9493508/