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deriidfhi06:10
dholbachgood morning08:03
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belkinsa_Pad: http://pad.ubuntu.com/LeadershipActions16:01
belkinsa_dholbach's post: https://daniel.holba.ch/blog/2014/12/summarising-the-last-cc-meeting/16:01
dholbachall right, here's the agenda: http://pad.ubuntu.com/LeadershipActions16:02
silverliono/16:02
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belkinsa_Mailing-list: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-community-team16:03
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silverliono/ belkinsa16:03
dholbachanyone in here who wants to join the hangout?16:04
belkinsa_Need the Hangout link?16:04
silverliondholbach: I'm joining in a sec16:04
dholbachcool!16:04
silverlionbut my connection is bad :(16:04
dholbachyou can at least try16:04
silverlionhas anyone got the link for me?16:07
dholbachhttps://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYf-SnhrhH9IWXkIeepEHq9nNH1HtlNlDdF-CQS9j__aSk2NoA16:07
silverlionguess everybody can see me, right?16:10
elfyhi peeps - not able to do hangout - but I'm listening16:10
elfysilverlion: no idea - stick your fingers in your ears :)16:10
belkinsa_Living document as in using bzr to edit/push changes to it?16:11
skellatbelkinsa: I can live with that16:11
skellatI just don't want us boxed in16:11
skellatWe have unknown unknowns16:11
silverlionelfy :P16:11
skellatWe also have unknown knowns16:12
skellatWe don't know what the next big thing will be!16:12
skellatWe also don't know what we don't know will bring us along to that16:12
belkinsa_What is the link to this page that dholbach is talking about?16:13
dholbachhttp://pad.ubuntu.com/LeadershipActions16:13
silverlionsorry folks, my connection does not work16:13
belkinsa_Ah16:13
silverlionI'll try to connect via cable. give me a sec16:13
dholbachor the one with the mission statement? http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/our-philosophy16:13
elfymhall119: well ...16:15
elfyI filled a whole bunch of that this morning - no way I was assigning myself to it all ;)16:15
mhall119you can assign someone else16:16
mhall119:)16:16
elfyyea - but better to have people actually want to do it - they might actually do so :p16:16
silverlioni need that link again16:21
belkinsa_https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYf-SnhrhH9IWXkIeepEHq9nNH1HtlNlDdF-CQS9j__aSk2NoA16:21
silverlionthis seems to work now16:23
belkinsa_Could the Ubuntu Leadership team help with training this type of leader along with the cc?16:28
mhall119yes!16:29
skellatLeadership does not equal Management16:29
skellatManagement **is** the paper shuffling16:29
mhall119there's quite a bit of overlap though16:29
skellatYes, but the Venn diagram isn't totally congruent16:30
belkinsa_The e-mail:https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-leadership/2014-November/000108.html16:32
silverlionwe should not talk to much about "leaders"16:33
belkinsa_Leadership team: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntuleadership16:33
silverlionleaders are very much connected to "organizations"16:33
silverlionwe are a community, aren't we?16:34
belkinsa_We are.16:34
mhall119communities have leaders16:34
mhall119leader != boss16:34
silverlionour leaders should be "role models"16:34
skellatTo an extent16:35
silverlionthat's very much less drastic16:35
mhall119what's in a name16:35
skellatFrom the LoCo level, it would be expected that *somebody* take charge on organizing events in a community16:35
skellatAll LoCo Council asks is that you have a Point of Contact...how you organize internally is up to you16:35
skellatWhich is why e-mails from me on loco-contacts have a slash between Point of Contact and Leader as the two roles aren't necessarily the same16:36
belkinsa_hack5.tv, skellat?16:41
skellathak5.tv16:41
* belkinsa_ nods16:41
skellatHunh16:41
skellatWrong link16:41
skellathak5.org16:41
skellatMy bad!16:41
* silverlion thinks that he's not readable in the hangout :(16:42
mhall119readable?16:42
skellatsilverlion: I see you, I see your chat bits16:42
skellatAll you said was that you want mentos, though16:42
silverlioni tried to speak16:42
silverlionbut no reaction16:42
mhall119yeah, didn't hear anything from you16:43
belkinsa_Is your mic working?16:43
popeySounds like Team Reports16:44
popeywhich people found onerous to do16:44
popeymaybe the wiki was the onerous thing16:45
belkinsa_Maybe we could videos on how to post those presentations on YouTube.16:45
silverlionsorry mhall119 :D16:45
belkinsa_Could make*16:45
mhall119yeah, let's not do manual team reports16:45
belkinsa_Manual as via wiki page team reports?16:46
skellatpopey: I have to find the tool in the archive that crosswalks HTML to MoinMoin16:46
skellatIt exists, I just can't remember where16:46
skellatpopey: Found it!  libhtml-wikiconverter-moinmoin-perl16:57
skellatIt actually looks like a nasty package name but is super easy to user16:57
skellats/user/use/16:57
mhall119yay work items!17:02
dholbachnext time we should probably ask people to put their name next to work / agenda items :)17:02
dholbachmight make it easier to decide things :)17:02
popey17:03
belkinsa_\o/ and got sett working on mine, but first lunchtime.17:03
mhall119that's what I was hoping for, but yeah, next time we'll be explicit about that17:03
dholbachalll right - I call it a day - have a great weekend everyone!17:03
* belkinsa_ hugs dholbach17:03
skellatIt should be interesting to see what comes out of the LoCo Council meeting Tuesday too17:03
tsegaDid I miss the "Next Steps" hangout?17:36
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