[06:10] hi [08:03] good morning === rmescandon is now known as rmescandon|afk === rmescandon|afk is now known as rmescandon === rmescandon is now known as rmescandon|lunch === rmescandon|lunch is now known as rmescandon [16:01] Pad: http://pad.ubuntu.com/LeadershipActions [16:01] dholbach's post: https://daniel.holba.ch/blog/2014/12/summarising-the-last-cc-meeting/ [16:02] all right, here's the agenda: http://pad.ubuntu.com/LeadershipActions [16:02] o/ === silverlion is now known as Guest80857 [16:03] Mailing-list: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-community-team === Guest80857 is now known as silverlion [16:03] o/ belkinsa [16:04] anyone in here who wants to join the hangout? [16:04] Need the Hangout link? [16:04] dholbach: I'm joining in a sec [16:04] cool! [16:04] but my connection is bad :( [16:04] you can at least try [16:07] has anyone got the link for me? [16:07] https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYf-SnhrhH9IWXkIeepEHq9nNH1HtlNlDdF-CQS9j__aSk2NoA [16:10] guess everybody can see me, right? [16:10] hi peeps - not able to do hangout - but I'm listening [16:10] silverlion: no idea - stick your fingers in your ears :) [16:11] Living document as in using bzr to edit/push changes to it? [16:11] belkinsa: I can live with that [16:11] I just don't want us boxed in [16:11] We have unknown unknowns [16:11] elfy :P [16:12] We also have unknown knowns [16:12] We don't know what the next big thing will be! [16:12] We also don't know what we don't know will bring us along to that [16:13] What is the link to this page that dholbach is talking about? [16:13] http://pad.ubuntu.com/LeadershipActions [16:13] sorry folks, my connection does not work [16:13] Ah [16:13] I'll try to connect via cable. give me a sec [16:13] or the one with the mission statement? http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/our-philosophy [16:15] mhall119: well ... [16:15] I filled a whole bunch of that this morning - no way I was assigning myself to it all ;) [16:16] you can assign someone else [16:16] :) [16:16] yea - but better to have people actually want to do it - they might actually do so :p [16:21] i need that link again [16:21] https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYf-SnhrhH9IWXkIeepEHq9nNH1HtlNlDdF-CQS9j__aSk2NoA [16:23] this seems to work now [16:28] Could the Ubuntu Leadership team help with training this type of leader along with the cc? [16:29] yes! [16:29] Leadership does not equal Management [16:29] Management **is** the paper shuffling [16:29] there's quite a bit of overlap though [16:30] Yes, but the Venn diagram isn't totally congruent [16:32] The e-mail:https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-leadership/2014-November/000108.html [16:33] we should not talk to much about "leaders" [16:33] Leadership team: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntuleadership [16:33] leaders are very much connected to "organizations" [16:34] we are a community, aren't we? [16:34] We are. [16:34] communities have leaders [16:34] leader != boss [16:34] our leaders should be "role models" [16:35] To an extent [16:35] that's very much less drastic [16:35] what's in a name [16:35] From the LoCo level, it would be expected that *somebody* take charge on organizing events in a community [16:35] All LoCo Council asks is that you have a Point of Contact...how you organize internally is up to you [16:36] Which is why e-mails from me on loco-contacts have a slash between Point of Contact and Leader as the two roles aren't necessarily the same [16:41] hack5.tv, skellat? [16:41] hak5.tv [16:41] * belkinsa_ nods [16:41] Hunh [16:41] Wrong link [16:41] hak5.org [16:41] My bad! [16:42] * silverlion thinks that he's not readable in the hangout :( [16:42] readable? [16:42] silverlion: I see you, I see your chat bits [16:42] All you said was that you want mentos, though [16:42] i tried to speak [16:42] but no reaction [16:43] yeah, didn't hear anything from you [16:43] Is your mic working? [16:44] Sounds like Team Reports [16:44] which people found onerous to do [16:45] maybe the wiki was the onerous thing [16:45] Maybe we could videos on how to post those presentations on YouTube. [16:45] sorry mhall119 :D [16:45] Could make* [16:45] yeah, let's not do manual team reports [16:46] Manual as via wiki page team reports? [16:46] popey: I have to find the tool in the archive that crosswalks HTML to MoinMoin [16:46] It exists, I just can't remember where [16:57] popey: Found it! libhtml-wikiconverter-moinmoin-perl [16:57] It actually looks like a nasty package name but is super easy to user [16:57] s/user/use/ [17:02] yay work items! [17:02] next time we should probably ask people to put their name next to work / agenda items :) [17:02] might make it easier to decide things :) [17:03] ☻ [17:03] \o/ and got sett working on mine, but first lunchtime. [17:03] that's what I was hoping for, but yeah, next time we'll be explicit about that [17:03] alll right - I call it a day - have a great weekend everyone! [17:03] * belkinsa_ hugs dholbach [17:03] It should be interesting to see what comes out of the LoCo Council meeting Tuesday too [17:36] Did I miss the "Next Steps" hangout? === Nexus is now known as Guest18675