[06:10] <deriidf> hi
[08:03] <dholbach> good morning
[16:01] <belkinsa_> Pad: http://pad.ubuntu.com/LeadershipActions
[16:01] <belkinsa_> dholbach's post: https://daniel.holba.ch/blog/2014/12/summarising-the-last-cc-meeting/
[16:02] <dholbach> all right, here's the agenda: http://pad.ubuntu.com/LeadershipActions
[16:02] <silverlion> o/
[16:03] <belkinsa_> Mailing-list: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-community-team
[16:03] <silverlion> o/ belkinsa
[16:04] <dholbach> anyone in here who wants to join the hangout?
[16:04] <belkinsa_> Need the Hangout link?
[16:04] <silverlion> dholbach: I'm joining in a sec
[16:04] <dholbach> cool!
[16:04] <silverlion> but my connection is bad :(
[16:04] <dholbach> you can at least try
[16:07] <silverlion> has anyone got the link for me?
[16:07] <dholbach> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYf-SnhrhH9IWXkIeepEHq9nNH1HtlNlDdF-CQS9j__aSk2NoA
[16:10] <silverlion> guess everybody can see me, right?
[16:10] <elfy> hi peeps - not able to do hangout - but I'm listening
[16:10] <elfy> silverlion: no idea - stick your fingers in your ears :)
[16:11] <belkinsa_> Living document as in using bzr to edit/push changes to it?
[16:11] <skellat> belkinsa: I can live with that
[16:11] <skellat> I just don't want us boxed in
[16:11] <skellat> We have unknown unknowns
[16:11] <silverlion> elfy :P
[16:12] <skellat> We also have unknown knowns
[16:12] <skellat> We don't know what the next big thing will be!
[16:12] <skellat> We also don't know what we don't know will bring us along to that
[16:13] <belkinsa_> What is the link to this page that dholbach is talking about?
[16:13] <dholbach> http://pad.ubuntu.com/LeadershipActions
[16:13] <silverlion> sorry folks, my connection does not work
[16:13] <belkinsa_> Ah
[16:13] <silverlion> I'll try to connect via cable. give me a sec
[16:13] <dholbach> or the one with the mission statement? http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/our-philosophy
[16:15] <elfy> mhall119: well ...
[16:15] <elfy> I filled a whole bunch of that this morning - no way I was assigning myself to it all ;)
[16:16] <mhall119> you can assign someone else
[16:16] <mhall119> :)
[16:16] <elfy> yea - but better to have people actually want to do it - they might actually do so :p
[16:21] <silverlion> i need that link again
[16:21] <belkinsa_> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYf-SnhrhH9IWXkIeepEHq9nNH1HtlNlDdF-CQS9j__aSk2NoA
[16:23] <silverlion> this seems to work now
[16:28] <belkinsa_> Could the Ubuntu Leadership team help with training this type of leader along with the cc?
[16:29] <mhall119> yes!
[16:29] <skellat> Leadership does not equal Management
[16:29] <skellat> Management **is** the paper shuffling
[16:29] <mhall119> there's quite a bit of overlap though
[16:30] <skellat> Yes, but the Venn diagram isn't totally congruent
[16:32] <belkinsa_> The e-mail:https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-leadership/2014-November/000108.html
[16:33] <silverlion> we should not talk to much about "leaders"
[16:33] <belkinsa_> Leadership team: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntuleadership
[16:33] <silverlion> leaders are very much connected to "organizations"
[16:34] <silverlion> we are a community, aren't we?
[16:34] <belkinsa_> We are.
[16:34] <mhall119> communities have leaders
[16:34] <mhall119> leader != boss
[16:34] <silverlion> our leaders should be "role models"
[16:35] <skellat> To an extent
[16:35] <silverlion> that's very much less drastic
[16:35] <mhall119> what's in a name
[16:35] <skellat> From the LoCo level, it would be expected that *somebody* take charge on organizing events in a community
[16:35] <skellat> All LoCo Council asks is that you have a Point of Contact...how you organize internally is up to you
[16:36] <skellat> Which is why e-mails from me on loco-contacts have a slash between Point of Contact and Leader as the two roles aren't necessarily the same
[16:41] <belkinsa_> hack5.tv, skellat?
[16:41] <skellat> hak5.tv
[16:41]  * belkinsa_ nods
[16:41] <skellat> Hunh
[16:41] <skellat> Wrong link
[16:41] <skellat> hak5.org
[16:41] <skellat> My bad!
[16:42]  * silverlion thinks that he's not readable in the hangout :(
[16:42] <mhall119> readable?
[16:42] <skellat> silverlion: I see you, I see your chat bits
[16:42] <skellat> All you said was that you want mentos, though
[16:42] <silverlion> i tried to speak
[16:42] <silverlion> but no reaction
[16:43] <mhall119> yeah, didn't hear anything from you
[16:43] <belkinsa_> Is your mic working?
[16:44] <popey> Sounds like Team Reports
[16:44] <popey> which people found onerous to do
[16:45] <popey> maybe the wiki was the onerous thing
[16:45] <belkinsa_> Maybe we could videos on how to post those presentations on YouTube.
[16:45] <silverlion> sorry mhall119 :D
[16:45] <belkinsa_> Could make*
[16:45] <mhall119> yeah, let's not do manual team reports
[16:46] <belkinsa_> Manual as via wiki page team reports?
[16:46] <skellat> popey: I have to find the tool in the archive that crosswalks HTML to MoinMoin
[16:46] <skellat> It exists, I just can't remember where
[16:57] <skellat> popey: Found it!  libhtml-wikiconverter-moinmoin-perl
[16:57] <skellat> It actually looks like a nasty package name but is super easy to user
[16:57] <skellat> s/user/use/
[17:02] <mhall119> yay work items!
[17:02] <dholbach> next time we should probably ask people to put their name next to work / agenda items :)
[17:02] <dholbach> might make it easier to decide things :)
[17:03] <popey> ☻
[17:03] <belkinsa_> \o/ and got sett working on mine, but first lunchtime.
[17:03] <mhall119> that's what I was hoping for, but yeah, next time we'll be explicit about that
[17:03] <dholbach> alll right - I call it a day - have a great weekend everyone!
[17:03]  * belkinsa_ hugs dholbach
[17:03] <skellat> It should be interesting to see what comes out of the LoCo Council meeting Tuesday too
[17:36] <tsega> Did I miss the "Next Steps" hangout?