[00:16] <diddledan> yawn
[00:24]  * daftykins smacks lips
[00:24] <diddledan> food?
[00:24] <daftykins> errr
[00:24] <daftykins> nah
[00:25] <diddledan> sounds like a good idea tho
[00:25] <daftykins> http://i.imgur.com/lJSuUIr.jpg
[00:25] <daftykins> pretty.
[00:26] <daftykins> yes, i could go for some of that... food!
[00:26] <diddledan> I'm not entirely sure how that image could have come about
[00:26] <daftykins> photography?
[00:27] <diddledan> no, I mean how the ice formed like that
[00:27] <daftykins> :D
[00:27] <daftykins> bit puzzling eh
[00:27] <diddledan> it's obviously some interaction with the wires in the fence, but I'm boggled as to how
[00:27] <diddledan> or why
[00:27] <diddledan> or who
[00:28] <diddledan> or life
[00:28] <diddledan> dammit, daftykins, now you've got me on an existential quest
[00:28] <daftykins> would you like the original link at least? XD
[00:29] <daftykins> but yeah you would think fair enough a perpendicular wind would rush through but what's stopping it right there 0o
[00:30] <shauno> seems fairly straight forward? it's windy?
[00:31] <daftykins> oh actually
[00:31] <diddledan> well that trumps my theory of elvis
[00:31] <shauno> I mean the ice is forming on the top of the posts exactly the same way
[00:31] <daftykins> *facepalm*
[00:31] <daftykins> of course it's forming on the wire then freezing, then the fence still flings around which is why it's not in contact
[00:32] <daftykins> silly me.
[00:32] <daftykins> well, i feel that's enough to accept it :>
[00:32] <diddledan> I wonder if there's a second-rate porn star who calls himself "elvis the pelvis"?
[00:32] <shauno> or the metal heats up in the sun better than the ice does  (ice reflects sunlight pretty well)
[00:32] <shauno> lol dan, what have I told you about thinking?
[00:33] <daftykins> ^
[00:33] <daftykins> where will you chaps be Christmas Eve / Day ?
[00:33] <shauno> work
[00:33] <diddledan> my sister's on xmas day
[00:33] <shauno> happy overtimemass everybody :D
[00:34] <diddledan> with the kiddlywinks
[00:34] <diddledan> (not mine)
[00:34] <daftykins> diddledan: i should hope not, that's incest
[00:34] <diddledan> lol
[00:34] <zmoylan-pi> at home as per usual.  just another day
[00:34] <shauno> someone should rent out kiddlywinks for xmas.  it just doesn't seem right without them, but I'm not sure I want them the rest of the year
[00:35] <daftykins> ah in that case zmoylan-pi you can take diddledan's place then it'll still be us 3 conferring late at night
[00:35] <daftykins> bring booze :)
[00:35] <diddledan> don't forget the random thinking
[00:35] <daftykins> shauno: some human rights types might get a bit uptight about 'kids are for life not just for Chrimbo' or some such
[00:35] <shauno> no no, that's puppies
[00:36] <daftykins> ah puppies have finer rights? excellent
[00:36] <shauno> different rights
[00:36] <diddledan> children can be kept in cages for the rest of the year
[00:36] <diddledan> stop them escaping
[00:36] <shauno> I honestly ... well I mean we used to put our dogs in kennels when we went away
[00:37] <diddledan> that way they'll be available when it's xmas time again
[00:37] <daftykins> shauno: my parents do that but they're always complaining about the rates
[00:37] <shauno> I guess you'd have to rename it 'camp' like the yanks do, but that doesn't seem like a bad theory
[00:37] <daftykins> i've got to arrange a cat sitter now actually as i'm going to be in England middle of Jan
[00:37] <diddledan> fatcamp
[00:38] <shauno> anyway.  yeah.  my xmas is 12 hour shifts, monday to friday
[00:38] <diddledan> because there's nothing like a drill sargent yelling at a child to do pushups to encourage binge eating and other forms of elf-harm
[00:39] <shauno> I actually like xmas for this.  you can hoard all the overtime and no-one complains
[00:39] <diddledan> heh
[00:39] <diddledan> pays for shiny in the new year sales
[00:39] <daftykins> shauno: :D
[00:39] <shauno> I'm going away for new years .. easy come easy go
[00:40] <daftykins> shauno: ooh where-to?
[00:40] <shauno> paris
[00:40] <shauno> (it made sense at the time.  before I discovered they don't do fireworks.  d'oh)
[00:40] <daftykins> whaaaaat
[00:40] <diddledan> or for the move to the arse-end of bulgiviaden or wtf ya missus is from
[00:41] <diddledan> lol
[00:41] <diddledan> what do they do when they want to make the eifel tower explode?
[00:41] <daftykins> send for David Copperfield of course
[00:41] <shauno> they wait 'till bastille day
[00:41] <shauno> apparently on new years they just flubber the lightswitch
[00:41] <diddledan> like the way we did with the london eye a few years ago
[00:42] <daftykins> hey i'm realy chuffed with this new Linksys 16 port gigabit switch, twice the ports of my netgear... far smaller mains adapter and no heat from it!
[00:43] <shauno> link?
[00:44] <daftykins> product info or?
[00:44] <shauno> that'd work :)
[00:44] <daftykins> one mo
[00:44] <shauno> or just give it a name lol .. daftykin's switch isn't returning much on their site ;)
[00:44] <diddledan> found the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=giRrXu0jzE0
[00:44] <daftykins> http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00GQAT9BO/
[00:44] <diddledan> oh no that's not it
[00:45] <diddledan> similar tho
[00:45] <daftykins> does that one work 0o i got it for £50 during the black friday sale
[00:45] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/2tbw3zbqhf9j4fl/IMG_20141210_200738.jpg?dl=0
[00:45] <daftykins> \o/
[00:46] <shauno> just nosey :)
[00:46] <shauno> mine mostly bug me for the noise
[00:48] <daftykins> ah always been silent here :D i guess you're talking the more 24 port rackmount puppies?
[00:48] <shauno> yeah, the managed ones.  that seems to be the huge difference
[00:48] <shauno> stick half an ounce of intelligence in them and suddenly they want those little angry midget fans
[00:48] <daftykins> :D
[00:49] <diddledan> shauno, it's all because of skynet
[00:49] <diddledan> that half an ounce of intelligence is actually self-aware
[00:50] <shauno> well as long as they don't start making bad puns ..
[00:50] <diddledan> I'm a punny guy
[00:50] <shauno> do you listen to The Bugle?
[00:51] <diddledan> no?
[00:51] <diddledan> should I?
[00:51] <shauno> yes
[00:51] <daftykins> ^
[00:54] <shauno> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b0MewQeNjQ
[00:55] <shauno> Zaltzman's "pun runs" are a force of nature.
[00:56] <shauno> but the rest of the podcast is usually pretty decent.  death by pun isn't weekly :)
[01:19] <zmoylan-pi> ahahahahaa you can't make this stuff up... http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/12/iranian-hackers-used-visual-basic-malware-to-wipe-vegas-casinos-network/
[01:20] <zmoylan-pi> we'll need to apologise to csi now for mocking their vb skills
[01:21] <daftykins> XD
[01:24] <diddledan> sounds like a really simple piece of code
[01:25] <diddledan> if they had senior engineer's creds then they probably had full admin
[01:25] <diddledan> hence any "malware" doesn't need to do any exploiting
[01:26] <zmoylan-pi> but a complete flamingo up if a a vb app can swan in and do damage
[01:50] <shauno> amazon confuse me sometimes.  paid for 1-2 day delivery.  estimates delivery saturday to wednesday
[01:53] <zmoylan-pi> this late in december that's not bad...
[03:56] <diddledan> lol - just been watching guardians of the galaxy - funny
[03:57] <daftykins> i need to get around to that one!
[03:57] <daftykins> perhaps a holiday treat
[03:57] <diddledan> :-)
[03:57] <diddledan> I'm just waiting for the credits to finish in case there's a marvel studios sneak peak like they have on iron man and avengers moviews
[03:59] <daftykins> ah yes! they always make lingering in the cinema a thing
[04:01] <diddledan> I wonder how many folk aren't aware of it and thus have always left beforehand
[04:02] <diddledan> jeez, they had loads of different effects companies involved
[04:21] <diddledan> speaking of guardians of the galaxy: so, zoe saldana has done blue and green now. what colour is she going to try next?
[05:32] <mapps> im gonna bloody die from drink or smoking
[05:32] <mapps> sucks
[06:21] <mapps> cant elp myself
[08:11] <MooDoo> morning all
[08:33] <Guest57553> hi
[08:33] <Guest57553> hi guys. I use Gnome 3.12.1 installed through ppa on ubuntu 14.04 LTS on samsung RV20 laptop. since making the gnome upgrade I am not able to use the prt sc button on keyboard and also not getting the "change desktop background" option on the right click menu. can any one help atleast with the later
[08:33] <Guest57553>  thanks in advance.
[09:13] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:14] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[09:19] <MooDoo> morning davmor2 bigcalm
[09:19] <davmor2> bigcalm: told you I started earlier than you thought :D
[09:19] <davmor2> MooDoo: nice jumper by the way
[09:21] <bigcalm> davmor2: pfft
[09:33] <MooDoo> davmor2: thanks mate
[09:41] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Friday and happy Ugly Christmas Sweater Day! :-D
[09:42] <davmor2> JamesTait: you saaw MooDoo facebook feed and made that day up didn't you ;)
[09:43] <JamesTait> davmor2, I secretly tipped him off, that's why he's wearing the festive Guinness jumper. ;)
[09:44] <davmor2> JamesTait: I'm wearing what looks like ghost of christmas future tee-shirt if that counts
[09:44] <MooDoo> :)
[09:46] <JamesTait> davmor2, sounds normal. ;)
[09:46] <bigcalm> JamesTait: nice name for a day, shame I can't wear my xmas sweater then
[09:47] <bigcalm> From a recent social event: https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10848062_10205005846521577_2304566132486896575_n.jpg?oh=4b7065c50c90ad964edd7c586d1a47a1&oe=5543A2CA&__gda__=1426276316_44dd4e7669f0f70f6cb5aa38e43e14fc
[09:47] <bashrc> :)
[09:47] <JamesTait> My word!
[09:53]  * Laney needs another one for the collection
[09:58] <davmor2> JamesTait, MooDoo: http://davmor2.co.uk/~davmor2/image20141212_094603681.jpg  I think that is a pretty good ghost of christmas future myself :)
[09:59] <JamesTait> davmor2, hey, I saw that dude looking out of the mirror at me this morning!
[10:13] <bigcalm> Question: can I listen to the Awesomenauts OST too much? Answer: no, replay!
[10:26] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:28] <ThomasRedstone> morning brobostigon!
[10:28] <brobostigon> morning ThomasRedstone
[10:52] <popey> bigcalm: seen https://plus.google.com/u/0/106528277144778371719/posts/QzPTHcC2UWU  ?
[11:01] <davmor2> popey: that is awesome but how do you clean it :)
[11:01] <popey> i think the light is removable
[11:06] <foobarry> wife just bought a dolls house in a charity shop for £40 which was selling in asda for £35 recently :S
[11:06] <foobarry> to be fair its out of stock and the full price is usually £70
[11:06] <foobarry> but :(
[11:07] <foobarry> whats worse we have to hide it until march and its massive
[11:07] <popey> that soundbar i wanted went from 120 to 110 to 100 on amazon, then it was 80 on john lewis.. i told wifey to buy it for me, she didn't, now price has gone up
[11:07] <foobarry> failzor
[11:07] <foobarry> i'd wait rather than pay
[11:08] <foobarry> it took all my husbandry to not mention that i'd seen it for £35
[11:09] <foobarry> except on public irc
[11:18] <bigcalm> popey: funky top that. Shame about the soundbar. Hayley doesn't like it so won't have one in the sittingroom :(
[11:24] <davmor2> bigcalm: buy one mount it to the bottom of the tv see if she notices that netflix sound suddenly got clearer ;)
[11:25] <popey> wifey told me i cant have that for xmas
[11:25] <popey> she wants to get me something else, and I can buy the soundbar myself
[11:25] <popey> (would have done from john lewis if i had known this)
[11:29] <bigcalm> Ho hum
[11:30] <bigcalm> davmor2: she knows what it looks like at the bottom of the TV, no sneaking it in
[11:31] <davmor2> bigcalm: to be honest I don't like them either
[11:33] <awilkins> Was contemplating a set of 5.1s for my desktop
[11:33] <awilkins> Local retailer only stocks 3/6 of it's lines ATM and one of them is a Bluetooth soundbar
[11:33] <awilkins> Not sure what the point of that is for gaming...
[11:40] <Myrtti> I'm glad we got the AVR few years back
[11:42] <davmor2> MooDoo: Capella You got to let the music
[11:44] <davmor2> Anyone considering a microserver? http://www.serversplus.com/mailshots/sp_msgen8cb.html  just landed in my inbox
[13:07] <foobarry> i need the power of ubuntu-uk today
[13:09] <foobarry> nephew wants to buy a new pc
[13:10] <foobarry> he wants to overclock
[13:10] <foobarry> "i want the best possible PC for my budget of about £800 to £900"
[13:12] <foobarry> anyone with experience of buying pc and gaming kit offer any advice?
[13:12] <foobarry> he is looking at http://www.novatech.co.uk/pc/range/novatechblacknti131.html
[13:13] <foobarry> and http://choosemypc.net/uk/?budget=850&oc=true&options=od
[13:34] <bigcalm> There's an email subject line going around at work of "TD DR" which I keep reading as TL;DR
[13:59] <bigcalm> !info quilt
[14:00] <bigcalm> Oh
[14:01] <MooDoo> bigcalm: sorry didn't read that, it was too long
[14:01] <bigcalm> :P
[14:41] <bigcalm> Afternoon intrbiz
[15:01] <brobostigon> afternoon bigcalm
[15:07] <bigcalm> Hi brobostigon, I've been here all day :D
[15:07] <brobostigon> :)
[15:19] <davmor2> bigcalm: Liar you are never all here fullstop ;)
[15:20]  * bigcalm goes looking for marbles
[15:28] <NET||abuse> hi guys., anyone here useing virgin media for internet? I'm thinking of putting that superhub into modem mode and stick a really decent router behind it, maybe seperate wifi access point, maybe combinded not sure yet.
[15:29] <NET||abuse> any one gone through this process? Looking for router recomendation.
[15:29] <davmor2> bigcalm: oh you're toodles ;)
[15:29] <NET||abuse> just buying a pi B+ and thought i'd bundle up an order for gear.
[15:30] <NET||abuse> also very interested to see if i can get an odroid-c1 if anyone's seen those :)
[15:30] <bigcalm> NET||abuse: everybody I know (including myself) who has VM uses the SuperHub in modem only mode. I personally have open-wrt running on a Netgear WNDR3700
[15:30] <NET||abuse> cool, thought as much.
[15:31] <NET||abuse> how recent is that hardware
[15:31] <NET||abuse> ?
[15:37] <diplo> NET||abuse, I waslomg about the Odroid yesterday, let us know if you get one
[15:37] <diplo> can't decide yety
[15:37] <MooDoo> bigcalm: i don't yet
[15:37] <NET||abuse> i think i'm going to, just not sure do i buy from hardkernel directly? or is there somewhere else to go?
[15:38] <intrbiz> NET||abuse: I got an Odroid U3 a while back, got stung for import duty
[15:38] <intrbiz> NET||abuse: I think there is a German reseller now, certainly for some stuff
[15:39] <diplo> I was thinking of the same issue, not looked around for other suppliers yet
[15:40] <intrbiz> German shop is: http://www.pollin.de/shop/suchergebnis.html?S_TEXT=odroid&log=internal
[15:40] <intrbiz> They have the C1 listed aswell as the U3 and XU3
[15:40] <NET||abuse> intrbiz: yeh, that's where i'm concerned. will be a real sting for that, got hit with that in Ireland before with a sata dock, great device, real tax pain.
[15:41] <intrbiz> Hardkernel don't really have resellers either, its direct, from Germany or US
[15:42] <NET||abuse> i'll get it from germany.
[15:42] <intrbiz> I think it was only £10 import duty, plus a £10 admin fee
[15:42] <NET||abuse> is that from Germany?
[15:43] <intrbiz> no, that was from Korea
[15:43] <NET||abuse> maybe wont get hit from germany
[15:44] <NET||abuse> according to gov.uk i wont
[15:45] <intrbiz> shouldn't be import duty within the EU as I understand it
[15:51] <intrbiz> it's a real shame the Odroid-W got killed
[15:52] <NET||abuse> not in stock on the german site yet.
[15:56] <intrbiz> ah
[15:57] <NET||abuse> hmm, need cable and a nice gigabit ethernet switch to connect the far end of my apartment
[15:58] <intrbiz> my advice would be to get a good micro SD card too, or a eMMC module
[15:59] <intrbiz> I have a Samsung EVO class 10 16GB SD card in my U3 and is quick
[16:16] <foobarry> In London, a “computer failure” has shut down the airspace surrounding the city. The European Organisation for the Safety of Air Navigation says Swanwich air traffic control center is experiencing severe technical problems, and a fix is nowhere in sight.…
[16:17] <zmoylan-pi> turning it off and on again has been attempted?
[16:20] <NET||abuse> this seem like a suitable sd card for a Pi? http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B009X0G304/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE
[16:29] <mapps> daftykins, you ave te same router as me right\?
[16:29] <mapps> i cant get port forwarding to work
[16:31] <foobarry> anyone bought or made a pc lately>
[16:31] <mapps> nopes
[16:31] <foobarry> or can recommend knowledge
[16:34] <NET||abuse> hmmm seeing a few more modern versions of the wndr machines that are on the supported wrt list.. eg wndr4500
[16:37] <NET||abuse> will look into it.
[16:50] <NET||abuse> i'm up to 13 items in my basket on amazon.. now i just need a new tv
[16:56] <zmoylan-pi> something with a crt just to annoy your postman... :-)
[17:24] <NET||abuse> hehe
[17:29] <davmor2> 180 Inch curved 4k?
[17:30] <zmoylan-pi> so... 2 post men and bunch of log rollers... :-P
[17:31] <zmoylan-pi> alternating who uses the whip
[17:31] <davmor2> http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/televisions/flat-tvs/UE85S9STXXU or one of these :D
[17:32] <davmor2> ah it's only 120 Inch I knew I saw the 100 bit
[17:32] <intrbiz> looks like an art installation
[17:41] <zmoylan-pi> or a slightly expensive whiteboard
[17:42] <intrbiz> a HD wyteboard
[17:52] <organic_> Hello :)
[17:55] <zmoylan-pi> o/
[18:45] <ali1234> anyone got an electric slicer?
[18:45] <ali1234> are they good?
[21:09] <diddledan> yawn
[21:11] <zmoylan-pi> go to bed, you have to be fully awake during the middle of the night later :-P
[21:11] <christel> why does he? :)
[21:12] <zmoylan-pi> it's a secret that the day dwellers will never learn...
[21:12] <diddledan> zmoylan-pi, I just got up
[21:31] <diddledan> I want this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?awt_l=PAqHk
[21:38] <daftykins> mapps: yep
[21:47] <DJones> popey: You saw this on the register, thought it might be of interest http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/12/12/product_round_up_ten_soundbars/
[21:47] <DJones> s/You/Just/
[22:42] <diddledan> http://lhartikk.github.io/ArnoldC/