[00:00] <EriC_> dalekusa: if you login using the new user, does it work?
[00:00] <dalekusa> wwoit
[00:00] <dalekusa> wait
[00:00] <daftykins> genii: *nod*
[00:00] <dalekusa> how do I log in
[00:00] <EriC_> dalekusa: you have to only copy your personal files and maybe some important configs for some apps
[00:00] <EriC_> dalekusa: sudo service lightdm restart
[00:01] <dalekusa> I'm logging in to my new account in unity
[00:01] <k1l> !paste > UTL
[00:03] <dalekusa> aaand it froze again
[00:03] <dalekusa> EriC_: see above
[00:05] <EriC_> dalekusa: anything in dmesg?
[00:05] <dalekusa> how do I access that
[00:05] <EriC_> type dmesg
[00:07] <dalekusa> I had to restart the machine
[00:07] <dalekusa> aaannd it isn't booting
[00:08] <dalekusa> EriC_: I cannot get back to it
[00:08] <EriC_> what's happening?
[00:09] <dalekusa> EriC; it is stuck at the pre-splash error again
[00:09] <dalekusa> EriC_: Trying again
[00:09] <EriC_> ?
[00:09] <dalekusa> booting
[00:09] <EriC_> what do you mean by pre-splash error?
[00:10] <dalekusa> there is a minor error that appears before the splash screen is supposed to appear
[00:10] <EriC_> what's the error?
[00:10] <birdman007> when i upgrade from one version to another like 13.10 to 14.10 will it be a fresh install and all my data lost or does it keep certain things?
[00:11] <genii> EriC_: If it's an Nvidia, my guess is a cached page of graphics
[00:11] <dalekusa> EriC_: "Error while reading from descriptor: Broken pipe"
[00:11] <batbird> how do I run a program completely sand boxed without having to run it in a virtual machine?
[00:11] <genii> Hm.
[00:11] <orlock> birdman007: It will ask during the install
[00:11] <EriC_> batbird: chroot ?
[00:11] <dalekusa> EriC_: it stopped it again
[00:12] <UTL> k1l: I'm having a private conversation with the Ubuntu bot. It's helping me understand a little more about my problems. Thanks for the reference!
[00:14] <dalekusa> EriC_: I cannot finish the boot
[00:14] <EriC_> dalekusa: how did it go away earlier?
[00:14] <dalekusa> trying without entering GRUB
[00:14] <batbird> EriC_: I want to run malware, but sandboxed.
[00:15] <dalekusa> EriC_: It just ignored the error
[00:15] <teward> batbird: isolated system separate from your system - malware running on your system has many ways of not staying sandboxed, even in a VM
[00:15] <dalekusa> IT worked now
[00:15] <dalekusa> but Let me log in again
[00:16] <dalekusa> OK, logging in is OK now
[00:17] <EriC_> dalekusa: unity is working?
[00:17] <dalekusa> but only if I don't delete the nomodeset parameter
[00:17] <dalekusa> on the new account
[00:17] <EriC_> dalekusa: ok
[00:17] <dalekusa> attempting to switch to the old account
[00:17] <EriC_> dalekusa: ok
[00:18] <dalekusa> and it doesn't work
[00:18] <dalekusa> EriC_: any key combination to switch users?
[00:19] <EriC_> hmm try ctrl+alt+l
[00:19] <EriC_> see if you get a menu to logout
[00:19] <EriC_> *menubar
[00:20] <YamakasY> strange my install logs UTC and uptime gives local time
[00:20] <dalekusa> no
[00:20] <EriC_> dalekusa: ok ctrl+alt+f1 then sudo service lightdm restart
[00:20] <EriC_> dalekusa: hmm
[00:21] <dalekusa> So it seems that just one user is not working
[00:21] <dalekusa> and that I can only make it work if it is in 720p
[00:21] <dalekusa> or 1024x768, actually
[00:23] <EriC_> dalekusa: try to login
[00:23] <dalekusa> Logged in to my new account
[00:24] <EriC_> dalekusa: ok, in the tty login to your old account
[00:24] <dalekusa> already am
[00:24] <EriC_> type rm -r ~/.compiz
[00:25] <Steve_Jobs> anyone run into issues with iptables recently?
[00:27] <dalekusa> EriC_: What now
[00:27] <EriC_> dalekusa: try to login in the gui
[00:27] <dalekusa> to what account
[00:27] <EriC_> old account
[00:28] <EriC_> if it doesn't work press ctrl+alt+t then type dconf reset -f /org/compiz
[00:28] <EriC_> then type setsid unity
[00:29] <dalekusa> I can't pull up Terminal
[00:29] <dalekusa> go to tty?
[00:29] <EriC_> ok
[00:30] <Formic> Dpkg fix is stuck in safe boot, is it safe to reboot?
[00:30] <EriC_> dalekusa: won't work in tty
[00:30] <dalekusa> I got a "Cannot autolaunch D-Bus without X11 $DISPLAY" errpr
[00:30] <dalekusa> og
[00:30] <dalekusa> oh
[00:31] <dalekusa> but I cannot pull up terminal
[00:32] <dalekusa> now I can't access that account without a restart
[00:32] <EriC_> dalekusa: which account?
[00:32] <dalekusa> old
[00:32] <EriC_> dalekusa: you can press ctrl+alt+f2 for another tty
[00:33] <EriC_> or press ctrl+c
[00:33] <dalekusa> ok
[00:33] <dalekusa> I can get in the old account in tty, but not gui
[00:34] <dalekusa> EriC_
[00:34] <EriC_> dalekusa: ok, how big is your home dir? type du -sh /home/<user>
[00:35] <dalekusa> 83G
[00:35] <EriC_> ok
[00:35] <EriC_> type df -h
[00:36] <dalekusa> yes?
[00:36] <EriC_> do you have 83G free on "/" or /home?
[00:36] <iio7> I am trying to watch images via w3m or elinks in konsole (alt+f2), but I don't understand exactly what I need to do. I have installed fbi.
[00:37] <dalekusa> 93G Used
[00:37] <EriC_> and available?
[00:37] <dalekusa> 340
[00:37] <EriC_> ok, cool
[00:38] <EriC_> dalekusa: that's on "/" right?
[00:38] <EriC_> ( not /home )
[00:38] <dalekusa> yes
[00:38] <EriC_> ok
[00:38] <UTL> Hey! Is there an fsck GUI?
[00:38] <daftykins> UTL: no
[00:38] <UTL> Just wondering.
[00:38] <daftykins> UTL: still waiting on that log pastebin btw.
[00:39] <UTL> Oh! Sorry.
[00:39] <daftykins> coming up on an hour :)
[00:40] <EriC_> dalekusa: type sudo rsync -av /home/<user>/* /backup
[00:40] <PaRaD0xxR> EriC^^ you still here?
[00:40] <EriC_> dalekusa: it won't copy any hidden files or directories in the main dir though
[00:40] <PaRaD0xxR> o, is that you? :)
[00:40] <zota> hey
[00:40] <EriC_> dalekusa: so any hidden files or dir you have, you have to copy them manually
[00:41] <dalekusa> examples of hidden files in a home folder?
[00:41] <PaRaD0xxR> my screensaver is complaining about not supporting the glx extension
[00:41] <EriC_> dalekusa: anything that starts with a .
[00:41] <PaRaD0xxR> after fixing all that before
[00:41] <EriC_> dalekusa: type ls -ad .*
[00:41] <EriC_> to view them
[00:41] <PaRaD0xxR> which, I suppose isn't a huge issue now, but...just wondering ;)
[00:41] <UTL> daftykins: What did you want me to paste?
[00:42] <PaRaD0xxR> no wonder virtualbox complained about not supporting 3D
[00:42] <EriC_> PaRaD0xxR: hey
[00:42] <PaRaD0xxR> hey
[00:42] <dalekusa> just got a small blue dot
[00:42] <daftykins> UTL: whether "dmesg | tail" shows any errors whilst working with that SD card
[00:42] <dalekusa> oh
[00:42] <EriC_> dalekusa: are you in your home dir?
[00:42] <dalekusa> forgot the asterisk
[00:42] <UTL> Okay, let me run the program again...
[00:42] <EriC_> PaRaD0xxR: hmm
[00:43] <PaRaD0xxR> photopile display 0.0 does not support the glx extension
[00:43] <dalekusa> got wuite a few
[00:43] <dalekusa> quite
[00:43] <PaRaD0xxR> photopile display :0.0 does not support the glx extension, that is
[00:43] <dalekusa> like my .minecraft folder
[00:43] <dalekusa> how do I back those up?
[00:43] <awknull> copy them
[00:43] <awknull> lol
[00:43] <EriC_> dalekusa: ok, rsync -av .minecraft /backup
[00:44] <EriC_> ( while you're in the dir )
[00:44] <Formic> My GNU/Linux partition is completely borked at the moment.
[00:44] <PaRaD0xxR> I was using Xscreensaver to display family photos, now it's defaulting back to the blank screen
[00:44] <PaRaD0xxR> since photopile errors with that
[00:44] <UTL> Okay, it's on there. Now what?
[00:45] <EriC_> PaRaD0xxR: maybe you need to install another vga driver?
[00:45] <PaRaD0xxR> hmm
[00:45] <PaRaD0xxR> such as/how?
[00:45] <EriC_> PaRaD0xxR: type lspci | grep VGA
[00:45] <EriC_> PaRaD0xxR: open the dash > type driver
[00:46] <UTL> daftykins: I put it on there - http://paste.ubuntu.com/9482506/
[00:46] <PaRaD0xxR> circuit board icon?
[00:46] <EriC_> yeah
[00:46] <PaRaD0xxR> no propriatary drivers are in use
[00:46] <EriC_> try fglrx
[00:47] <daftykins> UTL: looks like you've not been safely removing it from Windows :P
[00:47] <PaRaD0xxR> fglrx?
[00:47] <PaRaD0xxR> as a command?
[00:47] <EriC_> PaRaD0xxR: does it say there are other drivers?
[00:47] <EriC_> PaRaD0xxR: no
[00:47] <PaRaD0xxR> o, in that driver screen?
[00:48] <EriC_> yeah
[00:48] <PaRaD0xxR> nada
[00:48] <PaRaD0xxR> just started typing, lil box comes up...but nothing
[00:49] <EriC_> PaRaD0xxR: type lspci | grep VGA
[00:49] <PaRaD0xxR> that gives 1 line
[00:49] <EriC_> can you paste here?
[00:49] <PaRaD0xxR> umm
[00:49] <EriC_> or maybe just amd part
[00:49] <EriC_> amd radeon 6560 or whatever
[00:50] <dalekusa> EriC_: permission denied error
[00:50] <EriC_> dalekusa: add sudo
[00:50] <PaRaD0xxR> amd rv516 X1300/X1550 series
[00:50] <dalekusa> oops
[00:51] <PaRaD0xxR> vga compat controller
[00:51] <PaRaD0xxR> Radeon X1300/X1550 series
[00:52] <PaRaD0xxR> would rebooting help?
[00:52] <PaRaD0xxR> and try the 43 like we said before, dunno if that could be related
[00:53] <daftykins> still got some fun with X starting up?
[00:53] <Formic> So I'm fairly certain my graphics card driver is broken.
[00:53] <UTL> daftykins: I've been unplugging USB sticks without using the "Safely Remove Hardware" feature and hadn't had write problems. I might need to check the disks when prompted, but I never lost data (except maybe once, but the USB stick was faulty already). I even have done this with full-sized SD cards, but I guess it's different with microSDs.
[00:54] <k1l> Formic: ?
[00:54] <daftykins> UTL: don't do it. simple.
[00:54] <Guest23934> Holaa?
[00:54] <dalekusa> EriC_: What is the main code again?
[00:54] <Formic> k11: I was using jockey-gtk to install the stable fglrx drivers after updating my kernel to 3.11.0.
[00:54] <aaas> I have 302 processes running according to top...zabbix complains that i have 'too many'....im wondering if i should look into these new processes (I  think I have like 200 when i start the server) and find out where they are coming from or just change the 'warning' threshold, is there a way to see where all the new processes are coming from
[00:54] <daftykins> jockey is ancient afaiui
[00:55] <k1l> Formic: you did say your partition is broken before
[00:55] <k1l> Formic: what ubuntu is that exactly?
[00:55] <EriC_> dalekusa: type sudo rsync -av /home/<user>/* /backup
[00:55] <Formic> k11: See, that's what worries me, I used dkpg to try and fix the broken package, but that just started to hang.
[00:55] <Formic> Saucy.
[00:55] <EriC_> PaRaD0xxR: might as well boot into it
[00:56] <daftykins> !saucy | Formic
[00:56] <daftykins> Formic: it's dead, Jim
[00:56] <EriC_> PaRaD0xxR: you could try downloading supported drivers from the amd website
[00:56] <Formic> I realized that the fix wasn't going anywhere after waiting for a few minutes, so I decided to reboot.
[00:56] <k1l> Formic: so why do you start fiddeling with own kernels etc, when saucy is dead already? you could just have upgraded to trusty
[00:57] <UTL> daftykins: Thanks for the advice, but I think there's something more to this. However, I'll treat it more delicately than my other storage media, just in case.
[00:57] <PaRaD0xxR> lil afraid
[00:57] <PaRaD0xxR> hehe
[00:57] <dalekusa> running
[00:57] <daftykins> UTL: there might well be, but avoiding misuse is indeed step #1 - for anymore, i'm afraid 1hr turnaround time for a single log was too much ;)
[00:57] <EriC_> PaRaD0xxR: http://support.amd.com/en-us
[00:57] <PaRaD0xxR> I googled and found this, could this be the issue?
[00:57] <PaRaD0xxR> Most likely, you did not completely remove one of the proprietary drivers and X is still using AMD's (or nvidia's) custom version of libglx, which breaks 3D for open-source drivers.
[00:57] <PaRaD0xxR> Post the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log file (use code tags!).
[00:58] <PaRaD0xxR> ok
[00:58] <EriC_> PaRaD0xxR: you can uninstall later, make sure the card is supported before installing though
[00:58]  * UTL feels his stomach gurgle. Time to go eat!
[00:59] <EriC_> !find libglx
[00:59] <Formic> Actually, I now know exactly what my problem was. I used the kernel built for saucy when I should have used the one built for 12.04.
[00:59] <EriC_> PaRaD0xxR: try sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-core
[00:59] <Formic> Is there any way I can get my files off of my partition so I can reinstall?
[01:00] <k1l> Formic: load a live ubuntu and safe your stuff to some usb or other external media
[01:00] <PaRaD0xxR> k, done
[01:00] <PaRaD0xxR> EriC_
[01:01] <EriC_> PaRaD0xxR: ok
[01:01] <Formic> k11: My partition is encrypted... I think safeboot still works despite my packages being broken, can I mount it and take off the encryption to get my files back?
[01:01] <EriC_> Formic: yes
[01:02] <dalekusa> Sorry, my irc client crashed
[01:02] <daftykins> EriC_ PaRaD0xxR - just a quick one, noticed the X1300/X1550 reference - that's an old legacy status card that's only supported by open source drivers now
[01:02] <EriC_> live usb would be better i guess, but you can decrypt it manually and get everything off
[01:02] <PaRaD0xxR> it was working fine before today daftykins
[01:02] <EriC_> Formic: ^^
[01:02] <PaRaD0xxR> whatever I deleted earlier messed it up?
[01:03] <daftykins> yeah you would've been using the open source 'radeon' driver
[01:03] <PaRaD0xxR> ahh
[01:03] <HoloIRCUser3> Hi folks. After installing new update with a new kernel, I can't pass the boot logo. Nothing happens after
[01:03] <Formic> EriC: What commands should I use to decrypt it from safeboot?
[01:03] <PaRaD0xxR> but obviously I'm using something else now, I guess?
[01:03] <EriC_> daftykins: oh ok
[01:03] <daftykins> is X working?
[01:03] <PaRaD0xxR> Unity?
[01:03] <daftykins> just the GUI in general?
[01:04] <PaRaD0xxR> yeah, just noticed my Xscreensaver wasn't loading my photopile pix
[01:04] <daftykins> oic
[01:04] <HoloIRCUser3> I tried to boot the older kernels but all with the same results. The system is stuck at boot logo. What I can try to do? Thanks
[01:04] <daftykins> ok, beyond me :)
[01:04] <EriC_> Formic: http://askubuntu.com/questions/63594/mount-encrypted-volumes-from-command-line
[01:04] <PaRaD0xxR> but Unity is loading now yes, pretty much back to normal, tho I do notice the screen goes blank for a sec, before opening a video, for example
[01:04] <PaRaD0xxR> never used to do that
[01:05] <PaRaD0xxR> would lead me to belive using a different driver than usual, does feel like it
[01:05] <daftykins> HoloIRCUser3: login at TTY (ctrl+alt+F1 through F6) and run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[01:05] <Formic> EriC: Thank you so much. I was using Elementary OS, built off of 12.04, but I think I'll just switch to regular Ubuntu with this new reinstall.
[01:05] <EriC_> PaRaD0xxR: try to sudo service lightdm restart
[01:06] <EriC_> PaRaD0xxR: maybe that last package helped
[01:06] <Formic> EriC: I've had to do a great deal of fiddling to get things working, but I fiddled too much.
[01:06] <daftykins> Formic: standard ubuntu is the only way we can help in here ;)
[01:06] <daftykins> !elementary
[01:07] <PaRaD0xxR> don't think that worked
[01:07] <PaRaD0xxR> all I got was could not write bytes: broken pipe
[01:08] <PaRaD0xxR> and then sat there
[01:08] <PaRaD0xxR> had to control-alt_f1
[01:08] <PaRaD0xxR> and lightdm start there
[01:08] <PaRaD0xxR> to get back
[01:08] <fluvvell> daftykins: Weirdly, while its reporting HDMI, we're thinking its using a DVI cable. and its the same cable that was used with the nvidia card before it. My friend is just coming home from work to check it for me. As he had to look up what an HDMI cable was, I'm pretty sure he hasn't replaced the one I put in 7 years ago.
[01:09] <daftykins> fluvvell: :D it'll need to be a dual-link DVI to drive that resolution yeah, noticably fatter cable
[01:09] <HoloIRCUser3> Daftykins: how can I log in if I can't boot into the system?
[01:09] <daftykins> HoloIRCUser3: noticed the ctrl+alt+F1-F6 bit?
[01:09] <fluvvell> daftykins: yes I looked at that when I bought him the Samsung 30", and bought the DVI cable especially. It used to  work!
[01:10] <PaRaD0xxR> hmm
[01:10] <keanne> hi, anyone having problems with 3g usb dongles? usb_modeswitch is switching the devices, but still there is no /dev/ttyUSB[n]. ubuntu version is jessie/sid
[01:10] <HoloIRCUser3> Daftykins: yes, I tried it but nothing happens. When do I have to hit them?
[01:11] <daftykins> fluvvell: hrmm, quirky stuff! well at least there's a possible path to go down. the other thing i found was a random xorg log of someone elses where they used a newer kernel and saw better support, worth a go.
[01:11] <keanne> tried with both huawei and zte, same thing. odd is sometimes it works, most of the time, no. but usb-modeswitch is switching them all the time, jut no ttyUSB device
[01:11] <daftykins> keanne: no that's a debian version. we don't support debian here.
[01:11] <daftykins> HoloIRCUser3: when you'd presume a system to have booted up fully, if not try also...
[01:11] <daftykins> !nomodeset | HoloIRCUser3
[01:12] <PaRaD0xxR> EriC_: nada
[01:13] <fluvvell> daftykins, I did get an installer deb straight from intel and  installed that hoping that would cover any deficiencies in the kernel.
[01:13] <PaRaD0xxR> I guess it's not as big an issue as not being able to load Unity, but....still not totally back to normal
[01:13] <PaRaD0xxR> afraid to reboot
[01:14] <PaRaD0xxR> could that help tho maybe?
[01:14] <EriC_> give it a shot
[01:14] <PaRaD0xxR> maybe cuz I'm using the pae and not the 43?
[01:14] <PaRaD0xxR> ok
[01:14] <EriC_> i remember seeing
[01:14] <PaRaD0xxR> brb, hopefully...if not, you here tomorrow?
[01:14] <EriC_> an error about the vga in syslog i think
[01:14] <PaRaD0xxR> dunno where you are, times your around etc
[01:15] <PaRaD0xxR> want me to check that first?
[01:15] <PaRaD0xxR> don't think I ever actually did the syslog thing you asked for
[01:15] <EriC_> hmm
[01:15] <EriC_> dmesg maybe
[01:15] <dalekusa> EriC_: it is going through the longest phase now, as it is copying several videos
[01:15] <PaRaD0xxR> dmesg | grep vga?
[01:15] <EriC_> dalekusa: ok
[01:15] <dalekusa> should i say, a lot
[01:16] <dalekusa> exclusively anime, if you want to know
[01:16] <EriC_> PaRaD0xxR: try dmesg | grep -iA4 vga
[01:17] <PaRaD0xxR> returned nothing
[01:18] <EriC_> PaRaD0xxR: ok, give the .43 a shot
[01:18] <EriC_> go for it
[01:18] <PaRaD0xxR> ok...hopefully I'll be back, if not, may not get back here til tomorrow, hopefully you're around ;)
[01:18] <PaRaD0xxR> take a sec
[01:19] <PaRaD0xxR> brb, (crossing fingers)
[01:19] <daftykins> fluvvell: i've seen a lot of talk of doing that but i think it tends to be pretty irrelevant for the most part
[01:20] <keanne> daftykins, sorry, Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
[01:21] <fluvvell> daftykins, ok even the intel-linux-graphics-installer package from intel?
[01:22] <PaRaD0xxR> k, in .43, which I thought wasn't going to work...right before the login screen, monitor shut off again like before...but space bar woke it up
[01:22] <PaRaD0xxR> and continued boot as normal
[01:22] <PaRaD0xxR> still no glx extension supported
[01:25] <PaRaD0xxR> EriC_: back
[01:25] <EriC_> !find libgl
[01:25] <daftykins> fluvvell: yeah, just leads the system to a state where we don't know what we're supporting
[01:26] <fluvvell> daftykins: I can appreciate that. Should I remove the packages?
[01:26] <EriC_> PaRaD0xxR: try sudo apt-get install --reinstall libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri
[01:27] <daftykins> fluvvell: nah, your call for experimentation - i've got nothing better ideas wise
[01:28] <keanne> anyone can give me the right direction on how to fix 3g usb dongles? device is being detected, lsusb shows it, dmesg shows it as usb-storage, usb-modeswitch switch it, but just no ttyUSB device
[01:28] <PaRaD0xxR> k, done
[01:29] <EriC_> PaRaD0xxR: sudo service lightdm restart
[01:29] <upsell5> hi, how do I give a file these permissions: -rwxrwxr-x
[01:29] <EriC_> upsell5: chmod 775
[01:29] <upsell5> i copied to file to another folder and it has: -rw-r--r--
[01:29] <upsell5> k thanks
[01:30] <thorie> how do i apply the changes i made to /etc/kbd/config ?
[01:31] <thorie> aka this issue? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kbd/+bug/1267574
[01:32] <upsell5> in bash scripts, do you need single or double quotes when setting a path variable?
[01:32] <PaRaD0xxR> got stopping Runlevel V compatibility...
[01:32] <PaRaD0xxR> and then just sat there
[01:32] <upsell5> e.g.  APP_HOME=/home/ubuntu/www
[01:32] <PaRaD0xxR> had to tty login again
[01:32] <daftykins> upsell5: join #bash
[01:32] <upsell5> then using it like ${APP_HOME}
[01:32] <PaRaD0xxR> and lightdm start there
[01:32] <PaRaD0xxR> o wait
[01:32] <PaRaD0xxR> it might be working now
[01:33] <PaRaD0xxR> yay :)
[01:33] <daftykins> !cookie | EriC_
[01:33] <PaRaD0xxR> he is!
[01:35] <dalekusa> still going
[01:35] <oswaldo> hl
[01:37] <PaRaD0xxR> weird tho, it works now, but for some reason my screen goes blank for a sec before videos load
[01:37] <PaRaD0xxR> like, in Movie Player, or vlc...or anything
[01:37] <dalekusa> aaand it is done
[01:37] <dalekusa> EriC_: backup is done
[01:37] <dalekusa>  what now?
[01:39] <dalekusa> EriC_
[01:41] <dalekusa> EriC_: How do I make the move?
[01:42] <dalekusa> I'll be back soon
[01:44] <PaRaD0xxR> guess I've got it back set up good enough for tonight, family time...been neglecting them ;)
[01:44] <PaRaD0xxR> thanks EriC_!
[01:53] <thorie> anyone know how to set a .xinitrc file?
[01:54] <bleezy209> Will ubuntu run on a Pentium 4 with gig of ram?
[01:56] <xangua> you would have a better experience with Xubuntu or Lubuntu bleezy209
[01:56] <backbox> hi
[01:57] <eqyx> bleezy209, Ubuntu Mate is great
[01:57] <bleezy209> Xangua thanks i installed it but it takes like 30 sec for windows to open and close
[01:59] <thorie> do i save my keyboard repeat rate settings in .xinitrc or in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d ? or somewhere else?
[02:00] <thorie> when i tried adding the xset command to my .xinitrc, X wouldn't start anymore
[02:01] <bleezy209> Could my problem be a driver issue?
[02:04] <dalekusa> EriC_: I'm back, and I hope you are
[02:09] <thorie> is there a place where keyboard settings are documented in ubuntu?
[02:10] <dlam> mmm is there a good touchpad settings program
[02:10] <dlam> the default one not that great -_-
[02:16] <Guest62366> system updated and now I can not get in says low display settings and so I hit enter than it just goes to a blinking cursor 14.04 on a thumb drive now
[02:17] <thorie> i tried adding the setting "xset r rate 160 30" to my ~/.profile but now, when i reboot, X doesn't start because it says that when it tries to run the "xset" command, there is no X window session available
[02:18] <thorie> can someone help me?
[02:19] <lotfy> hello
[02:19] <daftykins> hi lotfy
[02:19] <Guest62366> is there any help in here tonight
[02:19] <lotfy> hello dafty
[02:20] <daftykins> !pm | lotfy
[02:20] <daftykins> lotfy: this is an ubuntu support channel.
[02:20] <lotfy> Oh  :)
[02:20] <Guest62366> system updated and now I can not get in says low display settings and so I hit enter than it just goes to a blinking cursor 14.04 on a thumb drive now
[02:20] <artisoone> how to create channel?
[02:21] <lotfy> ok thank you
[02:21] <daftykins> artisoone: /join #freenode and ask in there
[02:21] <dalekusa> Hey, I need help moving my files from my old user account to my new one (The Unity troubles I have been experiencing seem to be restricted to the old account).
[02:21] <dalekusa> I already backed up
[02:21] <artisoone> thank you dafty
[02:23] <Guest62366> system updated and now I can not get in says low display settings and so I hit enter than it just goes to a blinking cursor 14.04 on a thumb drive now
[02:23] <dalekusa> I want to move my home folder from my old buggy account to a shiny new one
[02:24] <marouane> hello
[02:26] <epyx> dalekusa, then do it! :P
[02:26] <dalekusa> well, how?
[02:27] <evanc> hey everyone; crazy problem. I'm on 14.04.1, and in gnome-terminal, when I press 'p', I get '~p'. If I hold down 'p', I get '~pppppppppp'. Um, what's up with that?
[02:27] <evanc> no other letter, but shift-P gives me ';2~P'
[02:28] <evanc> this does not happen with any other program that I can find (e.g. chrome is fine); only gnome-terminal, and only 'p'
[02:29] <Techspectre> Anyone know why my clock disappeared after last update? 14.04
[02:31] <Pamelloes> How can I update xorg to the newest build?
[02:31] <Pamelloes> apt-get gives me a build from 4/13, but I need a bug fix committed 4/29
[02:36] <evanc> oh, more fun: numpad-7 is the "context menu" keyboard action, for some reason.
[02:36] <daftykins> Pamelloes: doesn't really work like that in Ubuntu. if you're already on the newest release and fully dist-upgrade'd, you're out of luck unless you can find a PPA (unsupported) or add a patch manually
[02:36] <evanc> all of the other numpad buttons function correctly
[02:38] <eg_0> Hey guys, can anyone give me pointers on how to upgrade a 13.04 server to 14.04?
[02:38] <Pamelloes> daftykins: Can I build x myself? Without this patch, X crashes for me whenever I move my mouse
[02:40] <daftykins> Pamelloes: what's so special about your setup?
[02:40] <Guest087932> what are you doing?
[02:41] <Pamelloes> daftykins: I'm in Xen :P
[02:42] <bong1> how do we remove chrome??
[02:42] <bong1> sudo apt-get remove chrome-stable gives me
[02:42] <bong1> Unable to locate package chrome-stable and
[02:42] <bong1> sudo apt-get remove chrome gives me
[02:42] <bong1> Unable to locate package chrome
[02:42] <daftykins> bong1: "dpkg -l | grep -i chrom" (do not paste here again please)
[02:42] <eg_0> Hey guys, I have a 13.04 server that I need to to a release upgrade to, to get to 14.04.  Unfortunately do-release-upgrade doesn't work, and apt-get update doesn't work either.  Help! :)
[02:43] <daftykins> eg_0: clean install would be easiest.
[02:43] <eg_0> Alas it has my whole jenkins setup and that would be a pain to reinstall
[02:43] <Bashing-om> eg_0: Truthfull, Will in all likely hood be easier/faster to backup and do a clean fresh install of 14.04. Else looking at lots of time and bandwidth - EOL upgrade from 13.04 to EOL 13.10 to 14.04 .
[02:43] <daftykins> eg_0: nevertheless this is the way.
[02:43] <Bashing-om> !eol | eg_0
[02:43] <daftykins> eg_0: best tip for the future, don't use a non-EOL release for a server :)
[02:43] <Guest087932> what are you installing?
[02:44] <eg_0> Time is not a problem, but I can't seem to upgrade to 13.10 or 14.04
[02:44] <jcstarken> update ran now can not get in 14.04 running on thumb drive please help thank oyu
[02:44] <Pamelloes> What package do I need to isntall to get developer tools?
[02:45] <Guest087932> binary war
[02:45] <jnoob22> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential
[02:45] <eg_0> Been to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades before.  It doesn't seem to have information about the newer releases.  Is their something I need to do to have it let me upgrade to 13.10 and then to 14.04?
[02:45] <jnoob22> Pamelloes, ^^^
[02:46] <Pamelloes> Thanks
[02:46] <eg_0> @daftykins, indeed.. Just lost track of the server this release cycle :(
[02:46] <bong1> how do we remove chrome??
[02:46] <bong1> sudo apt-get remove chrome-stable gives me
[02:46] <bong1> Unable to locate package chrome-stable and
[02:46] <bong1> sudo apt-get remove chrome gives me
[02:46] <bong1> Unable to locate package chrome
[02:47] <Bashing-om> eg_0: The process as detailed in the EOL link remains the same .
[02:47] <jcstarken> help
[02:47] <Guest087932> andrew__: what has been going on in your neck of the woods?
[02:47] <Guest087932> jcstarken: halp
[02:48] <eg_0> Thanks Bashing-om, let me give that a try brb
[02:48] <Guest087932> Pamelloes: do you want to convert?
[02:49] <jcstarken> Guest087932: update ran rebooted wont loging says it is low graphics settings hit enter just goes to blinking cursor running on thumb drive now
[02:49] <daftykins> bong1: i already replied to you. PAY ATTENTION.
[02:50] <Bashing-om> eg_0: Roger that .. just change the source to point to "old-releases" and change the version from 'raring' to 'suacy'. once stable on 13.10. repeat to get to 14.04 .
[02:51] <Guest087932> jcstarken: check the logs to see what is prompting low graphics mode
[02:52] <npm> Last two 14.04LTS kernel updates caused weird nvidia-343 error: "run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/dkms 3.13.0-41-generic // Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.13.0-41-generic (x86_64) // Consult /var/lib/dkms/nvidia-343/343.36/build/make.log for more information."
[02:52] <npm> however make.log file was not present when I checked, and nvidia-343 seems to be running fine.
[02:52] <npm> ??
[02:52] <jcstarken> Guest087932: how to get there from thumbdrive and I am not running nvidia running amd
[02:53] <jcstarken> npm: do you know how to remove the update to get back to where you where before update
[02:55] <npm> i do, but can't roll back for various reasons (losing a bunch stuff i compiled for this one)
[02:55] <vizhonary> Need help.. Got a game running under X stuck in the foreground with blank screens. Happened when I tried to drop the game to windows mode. Need to figure out how to kill it with no graphics to use in the interface. Do not want ot just reboot or kill the machine because I have the last end of a 20 hour process running in the background.
[02:55] <vizhonary> err, windowed mode
[02:55] <dalekusa> daftykins: I need help transferring the contents of my home folder from my old user account (which is having Unity issues) to my new one.
[02:55] <jcstarken> npm: can you walk me thru it I can not get in to my system since update I am on a thumb drive right now
[02:56] <Guest087932> jcstarken: look for the hard disk in the file browser and look for the logs
[02:56] <eg_0> Bashing-om: Getting errors from apt-get update - Err http://old-releases.ubuntu.com trusty/main amd64 Packages
[02:56] <eg_0>   404  Not Found.  Looks like the folder for trusty is missing on the repo server
[02:56] <Guest087932> jcstarken: why did you update?
[02:57] <jcstarken> Guest087932: it had the little update thing in tool bar so I let it 134mb
[02:58] <Bashing-om> eg_0: Were/are you stable on 13.10 (saucy) ? and now trying to release upgrade to 14.04 from 13.10 ?
[02:59] <aarobc> So, I updated ubuntu, and now it freaks out about some missing uuid when it tries to boot and kicks me into a busybox terminal :(
[02:59] <Guest087932> jcstarken: better not to update
[02:59] <vizhonary> No replies? Seriously? Like I'd get faster help on the forums? In Windows I know 4 different ways to deal with this, but in Ubuntu I can't find a way to deal with it that doesn't require the graphics interface to be working from the start... No one can tell me how to kill the 'current' job in X or pull up something like the Windows Task Manager?
[02:59] <Guest087932> "if it ain't broke don't fix it" cliche
[02:59] <eg_0> Bashing-om: Still trying to get to 13.10.  Added the repo's for trusty into the sources list and tried an apt-get update.  Full log at: http://pastebin.com/ppHXL5A4
[03:00] <Bashing-om> eg_0: Look'n at your http://pastebin.com/ppHXL5A4 .
[03:01] <dalekusa> trying again tomorrow, if I don't find the info online
[03:01] <HomelessSanta> Hola, I am curious if anyone knows how to fix my Unity issue on Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS. I recently upgraded to a new kernel from the software manager 3.13-40.72-generic and it installed a new nVidia driver. As soon as I rebooted it killed Unity and the resolution was way off had to uninstall the driver and now it's using the open-source driver. Unity still won't load so I had to install Gnome-Shell to get on here.
[03:01] <SchrodingersScat> !patience | vizhonary
[03:02] <SchrodingersScat> vizhonary: can you get to a tty with ctrl-alt-f1?  and ctrl-alt-f7 should get you back to your locked up gui
[03:03] <Guest087932> best to backup and reinstall at this juction
[03:03] <vizhonary> Ubottu: I did about an hour of searching before I came here.. I don't have much more searching to do, and I have no graphics... ctrl-alt-f1 is as blank as X.. I tried xkill... Nothing happened.
[03:03] <Bashing-om> eg_0: Looks like - to me - that you are trying to skip a release. Trying to go direct to 14.04 ?
[03:03] <Guest087932> jcstarken: I advise you to look at dtrainer
[03:03] <SchrodingersScat> vizhonary: so you can do things, you just have that blank screen?  Wait, how did you run xkill?
[03:03] <jcstarken> Guest087932: what is that
[03:03] <vizhonary> The only graphics I have right now is the mouse pointer.
[03:03] <eg_0> Bashing-om: Well at the moment I'm just trying got get apt-get update, so that I can get the do-release-upgrade script installed
[03:04] <Guest087932> jcstarken: online manual at die.net
[03:04] <Guest087932> and see reflections on trusting trust
[03:04] <vizhonary> I tried Alt-F1 and then 'xkill' without seeing what I was doing... Nothing happenned... Ctrl-Alt-F7 started up the music from the game again.. Right now I have music from the game and a mouse pointer and nothing else.
[03:05] <Bashing-om> eg_0: Check waht relese you are on presently -> lsb_release -a , cat /etc/issue . Then we look at the sources.list file)s) .. see what we can do .
[03:06] <Bashing-om> what release *
[03:06] <vizhonary> err, ctrl-alt-f1 even.
[03:06] <jcstarken> npm:?
[03:07] <vizhonary> So there is no ctrl-x or ctrl-z type functionality to pause or kill it in X, then?.. Or some key combination to force it back into fullscreen mode?.. It was working till I tried to drop it out of fullscreen.
[03:07] <eg_0> Bashing-om: ohhh.. I'm on 13.04 raring.. not sure why the sources.list had trusty
[03:08] <eg_0> Bashing-om: Thanks man, sometimes you just need a second set of eyes to look at something :)  The update seems to be working now
[03:08] <sirscrubsalot> I have a HP TC4400 Tablet PC Convertible [Intel Core Duo 2.0ghz, 512mb ram, intel 950gma up to 224mb shared, 80gb hdd, wireless abg, Wacom Pen, XP Tablet Edition was installed] - would the latest ubuntu desktop edition work on this unit via fresh install? I'm not sure about the tablet-wacom support....
[03:08] <Guest087932> ubuntu is chess960
[03:08] <Guest087932> you are now a soldier in the final nuclear war
[03:08] <Guest087932> distill your water and see the prozac
[03:08] <Guest087932> time to wake up jcstarken
[03:08] <Guest087932> jcstarken: come in , do you read
[03:10] <Guest087932> jcstarken: what is your location?
[03:10] <Bashing-om> eg_0: Yep .... sometimes having a wall to bounce a ball of off is handy .
[03:11] <vizhonary> So the answer is no then? As wonderful as LINUX is supposed to be, it doesn't even have anything like Windows Task Manager that you can call up when things go screwy?
[03:11] <eg_0> Bashing-om: Looks like the upgrade is working now.  Thanks again
[03:12] <Bashing-om> eg_0: Get stable on 13.10. rinse off and repeat the process to get to 14.04 .
[03:12] <SchrodingersScat> vizhonary: normally switching workspaces gets me out, or my tty1 works.
[03:13] <Guest087932> jcstarken: come in, do you read
[03:13] <vizhonary> I can't switch anything... All I have is a mousepointer and it's unresponsive, no matter where I click.. I've tried Ctrl-Alt-? shortcuts to try to call up other programs to background it... Nothing is working.. I still have game music playing, a black screen and a mouse pointer that does not do anything.
[03:14] <vizhonary> If I can't keyboard shortcut to either force it back into fullscreen so it works again, or kills it, any other option is not going to work because I can't see crap.
[03:15] <kostkon> vizhonary, ctrl+alt+f5, the give   setsid unity    then ctrl+alt+f7
[03:16] <Guest087932> SchrodingersScat: if it ain't broke don't fix it
[03:16] <SchrodingersScat> Guest087932: better to spend than to mend
[03:17] <kostkon> SchrodingersScat, it's probably a bot
[03:17] <bynarie> question.... what the heck is [ and [[... as in the executable files
[03:17] <bynarie> ?
[03:17] <SchrodingersScat> bynarie: you mean like in #bash?
[03:18] <bynarie> /usr/bin/[
[03:19] <Guest087932> SchrodingersScat: unless you work with a sewing machine
[03:20] <vizhonary> argh.. No idea why it decided to whisper my last two messages.. Repeating them unwhispered.
[03:20] <vizhonary> Kostkon: No change... Ctrl-alt-F5 stops the music, vanishes the mouse pointer, kills the signal to my second monitor and leaves me on a blank screen... Nothing I type into that blank screen seems to do anything which leads me to believe it's not giving me a shell prompt at all... Ctrl-Alt F7 puts me back with game music, blank screens and a mouse pointer.
[03:20] <vizhonary> The Ctrl-Alt-F# keys not coming up with a command prompt I'm pretty sure is a bad .bashrc issue, but then the One size fits all installation of Ubuntu doesn't fit my system in Many ways.. I've spent hours fixing things that installed broken, but hadn't gotten to fixing the shell console interface yet.
[03:25] <bong1> sirscrubalot i think it would run well with lubuntu.
[03:26] <vizhonary> Alright... done waiting... The message I get is that I'm not going to get any of that troubleshooting functionality unless I figure out how to implement it myself.. Don't have alnight to troubleshoot it when restarting my system is just going to set me back about an hour as it verifies but doesn't actually do about 20 hours of work... Letting the HD light just flash with a blank screen is blocking me from getting
[03:26] <vizhonary>  anything else done in the process and the hour I planned to take a break playing my game has long passed.
[03:27] <ChogyDan> vizhonary: if you are running into a bug, maybe a bug report would be called for?
[03:28] <vizhonary> Actually, looks like my job just finished... HD light stopped flashing.
[03:29] <Guest087932> binary war
[03:29] <vizhonary> ChogyDan: The bug report would be to Steam or 11 Bit Studios.. No idea how I'd report this as a general Ubuntu bug and most of the problems I been having are bad installation setups that don't work with my system and not really bugs. My system is a little too unique for a one size fits all install.
[03:30] <Guest087932> genetic crystal core replicants
[03:31] <vizhonary> I never thought I'd say I miss old Slackware, but after 24 hours of fighting with my first Ubuntu install, I really really miss Slackware and to date it was the second nastiest install of LINUX I ever had to do.
[03:31] <Guest087932> they are crystals wrapped in flesh
[03:31] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[03:32] <lotuspsychje> vizhonary: how can you fight with an ubuntu install, so easy?
[03:32] <loadedanvils> hello
[03:32] <lotuspsychje> loadedanvils: welcome
[03:33] <loadedanvils> after the update today, ubuntu won't boot the gui
[03:33] <lotuspsychje> loadedanvils: where do you get stuck?
[03:34] <loadedanvils> when I turn on computer, the grub bootloader starts
[03:34] <loadedanvils> and the normal ubuntu boot doesn't work
[03:34] <vizhonary> Lotuspsychje: Because it's not configured right for my system and I been fixing problems for 24 hours, starting with having to modify GRUB to boot directly to a command line because I couldn't get X to die and drop me to a shell prompt so I could install my graphics drivers... Ny CTRL-ALT-F# Command prompts don't work, etc.
[03:34] <lotuspsychje> vizhonary: wich ubuntu version?
[03:34] <vizhonary> 14.04
[03:34] <lotuspsychje> loadedanvils: try enter grub into recoverymode
[03:35] <loadedanvils> I am in recovery mode
[03:35] <lotuspsychje> loadedanvils: failsafeX or fixbrokenpackages
[03:35] <vizhonary> Also, Grub does not recognize any of my keyboards, USB or PS/2 and YES, I have all my USB legacy crap turned on in the BIOS.
[03:35] <lotuspsychje> vizhonary: did you install ubuntu with cable on/updates during setup?
[03:36] <vizhonary> lotuspsychje: Yup.
[03:37] <lotuspsychje> vizhonary: wich grafix card is this exactly?
[03:37] <loadedanvils> what is failsafex
[03:37] <vizhonary> GeForce GTX 750 ti... I got drivers in and working... but I'm still troubleshooting bad configurations for my system.
[03:37] <loadedanvils> I'm looking it up right now, not sure what to do from this point
[03:38] <lotuspsychje> loadedanvils: thats a safe mode for your grafix card
[03:38] <lotuspsychje> vizhonary: is that an optimus card?
[03:38] <vizhonary> I have NO idea why GRUB won't recognize any of my keyboards and have tried everything I've seen in forum posts to fix it.
[03:38] <loadedanvils> I'm able to run the safe mode but it's very stretched out
[03:38] <loadedanvils> how do I restore it to before the upgrade
[03:39] <lotuspsychje> loadedanvils: try to load the previous kernel line from grub, or choose another grafix driver from failsafeX
[03:39] <lotuspsychje> vizhonary: what brand of machine is this? makes no sense that grub doents recognize mouse/key
[03:40] <loadedanvils> ok I'll give it a shot
[03:40] <Guest087932> _lore_ entered the room
[03:40] <Bashing-om> vizhonary: lotuspsychje :: 750 ti ; needs version 334.xx or later, and it's not in the Trusty repo. see: https://launchpad.net/~mamarley/+archive/ubuntu/nvidia . For one other solution.
[03:41] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: tnx mate
[03:41] <vizhonary> Yes, it's an card that uses Optimus and it's a machine I built myself... Gigabyte MB, Corsair RAM, Seagate and Connor drives, AMD Phenom II 8 core CPU, 16 gig of RAM... and I said I got he graphics drivers working... It's OTHER crap I'm having problems with.
[03:42] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: doesnt optimus cards use nvidia-prime now?
[03:42] <loadedanvils> hello, I tried to boot into older kernel, doesn't boot until I start it in recovery mode
[03:42] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: I see that Nvidia-prime for optimus is now preferrred. Agreed.
[03:43] <vizhonary> I been building my own machines since '92... and this is far from the first version of LINUX I've used but it is the first version that is totally self configuring and automated in it's installation... Everything else, from Debian to Redhat to Fedora to Slackware was very interactive and required user input to configure as it installed.
[03:43] <loadedanvils> when booting without loading grub, it goes into the regular ubuntu loading screen
[03:43] <loadedanvils> with the five dots, but doesn't do anything from there
[03:43] <ChogyDan> loadedanvils: try hitting esc during the plymouth screen
[03:44] <loadedanvils> ChogyDan ok I will try be back in a few
[03:44] <Bashing-om> vizhonary: Welcome to DKMS ( Dynamic Kernel Mode Setting ). where the kernels looks and goes to find it .
[03:44] <ChogyDan> vizhonary: what are the problems you are still having?
[03:44] <vizhonary> Bashing-om: Well, it installed all kinds of things messed up.
[03:46] <vizhonary> ChogyDan: Major issues: The CTRL-ALT-F# calls to open a console put my on a blank black screen, and GRUB does not recognize any of my keyboards and I've tried 5 of them with it... Does not matter the type.. Does not recognize them with 1 exception... Enter key works on a PS/2 keyboard but that's the only key it recognizes.
[03:46] <Bashing-om> vizhonary: I feel for you, but to be honest I have seen few problems installing ubuntu onto the 8 core AMD boards .
[03:47] <ChogyDan> vizhonary: if this is a new model mobo, maybe you need the latest kernel.  Have you tried that?
[03:47] <loadedanvils> hello
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> loadedanvils: wb
[03:47] <vizhonary> It is a 4 year old MB... Not new.
[03:48] <loadedanvils> it's saying that I have to re-load my graphics and display settings
[03:48] <vizhonary> The GPU is new and some of the memory is new.. Everyting else is at least 2 years old.
[03:48] <loadedanvils> I'm not sure what to do right now
[03:48] <lotuspsychje> vizhonary: did keyboard/mouse work on previous Os?
[03:48] <ChogyDan> vizhonary: have you done a mem test?
[03:49] <vizhonary> Yes, Keyboard/mouse work in other OSes.. They work in X... They are recognized and work with the BIOS... Only GRUB's menu seems to have problems.
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> thats weird for sure
[03:49] <loadedanvils> I think my graphics settings were screwed up from latest update
[03:49] <loadedanvils> in it I updated kernel and some other things
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> loadedanvils: wich ububtu version are you trying?
[03:49] <ChogyDan> vizhonary: there maybe be a setting to disable graphical grub.  That might get the keyboard working
[03:49] <loadedanvils> 14.04.01
[03:50] <loadedanvils> if I upgrade to 14.10 will it help?
[03:50] <lotuspsychje> loadedanvils: i would stick to 14.04, and try to sort this
[03:50] <vizhonary> Yeah.. I already found forum posts about fixing an unresponsive GRUB.. Most say to turn on Legacy USB in the BIOS but mine already is, and all the ohter fixes take long enough I've not tried them yet.
[03:50] <loadedanvils> well, I'm not sure how to proceed at this point
[03:51] <loadedanvils> I know that it's failing loading the graphics
[03:51] <ChogyDan> loadedanvils: what graphics?  What is the error?
[03:51] <lotuspsychje> loadedanvils: from your failsafeX desktop, switch drivers to see from additional driver section
[03:51] <loadedanvils> cli mode is okay
[03:52] <loadedanvils> okay I will try
[03:52] <lotuspsychje> loadedanvils: can you remember wich driver loaded?
[03:52] <lotuspsychje> too late
[03:52] <vizhonary> I found I couldn't mess with anything related to my graphics drivers while X is open... NVidia insists on X being disabled to make any changes to the system.
[03:52] <lotuspsychje> vizhonary: try the link from Bashing-om or try nvidia-prime
[03:53] <lotuspsychje> vizhonary: maybe reset a bios to defaults, see if it influences your grub keyboard
[03:53] <lotuspsychje> vizhonary: did you do a bios flash recently?
[03:53] <lagbox> so any word on the fglrx wine dependency issue or is that pushed to 15.04 ?
[03:54] <lotuspsychje> lagbox: what are you trying to get working? game?
[03:55] <lagbox> just to install wine and not remove fglrx
[03:55] <vizhonary> No.. I have not changed anything in BIOS in since the last updates about 2 years ago and anything else I've done related to the MB is no longer relevant because it's all Windows related crap and I'm fixing longstanding problems I've had with Windows by just making this a LINUX box and running Windows in a VM.
[03:55] <ChogyDan> lagbox: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-cuda-toolkit/+bug/1129409
[03:55] <vizhonary> My longstanding Windows Problems are Win7 and .NET 3.5 corruption related.
[03:56] <lotuspsychje> vizhonary: lets start from start, you have an optimus card so you need the right grafix driver first right
[03:57] <vizhonary> I got the latest legacy drivers from NVidia.. Don't think I can do much more right than that.
[03:57] <lotuspsychje> vizhonary: check the link from Bashing-om
[03:57] <lotuspsychje> vizhonary: or try nvidia-prime
[03:57] <daftykins> that's pretty wrong actually for nvidia on ubuntu ;)
[03:58] <vizhonary> Daftykins: They were specifically for Ubuntu/Debian 64-bit.. Not sure how I could do any better.
[03:58] <daftykins> by using packages.
[03:58] <daftykins> vizhonary: given you've had so many issues it'd help if you approached advice from this channel with an open mind :)
[04:00] <Bashing-om> vizhonary: In regards to the keyboard issue, is this a server main board ? Some backgrapind info , where problems are known : http://paste.ubuntu.com/9484206/ .
[04:00] <lotuspsychje> vizhonary: did you download those drivers manually after 14.04 install?
[04:01] <loadedanvils> hello
[04:01] <lotuspsychje> loadedanvils: any luck?
[04:01] <loadedanvils> not really
[04:01] <loadedanvils> I wrote down the error message
[04:01] <loadedanvils> well, the message att eh eend of failsafex
[04:01] <vizhonary> lotuspsycheje: Yes... I installed Ubuntu and first thing I did was found the latest Legacy drivers from NVidia for ubuntu, then found they won't run under X and spent the next two hours figuring out how to make GRUB boot to a BASH shell instead of X and have gone as far as to make a batch file that will flip it back and forth with one command.
[04:02] <loadedanvils> the last line is
[04:02] <loadedanvils> mountall: fsck /boot/efi [762] terminated with status 1
[04:02] <ChogyDan> vizhonary: did you get them from the nvidia website, or the ubuntu repository?
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> vizhonary: did the drivers ubuntu loaded from setup not work for you?
[04:02] <vizhonary> I got them from NVidia.
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> loadedanvils: do you have an uefi system perhaps?
[04:03] <vizhonary> No, the default drivers did not work... The Display control panel threw errors and it wouldn't recognize my second monitor at all till I installed NVidia's driver.
[04:03] <loadedanvils> lotuspsychje I think so
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> ChogyDan: he has an optimus card
[04:03] <loadedanvils> this is the first time I've had this problem. I installed latest update and then when I restarted I could not boot
[04:04] <loadedanvils> well, I couldn't start graphics
[04:04] <loadedanvils> I was able to boot
[04:04] <ChogyDan> loadedanvils: is linux-generic still installed?
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> loadedanvils: did you see other drivers at 'additional drivers' section?
[04:04] <vizhonary> There can't be any confusion in LINUX over what GPU it's using either because I have all the build in Sound and Grapics on the motherboard disabled at the BIOS level.
[04:04] <loadedanvils> lotuspsychje I wasn't able to access it
[04:05] <lotuspsychje> vizhonary: can you remember wich driver loaded?
[04:05] <loadedanvils> the additional drivers, because I think it failed
[04:05] <vizhonary> I never saw what driver Ubuntu installed but I installed... checking...
[04:05] <lotuspsychje> loadedanvils: you said you could boot into failsafeX, stretched screen?
[04:05] <loadedanvils> yes
[04:05] <lotuspsychje> loadedanvils: and additional drivers dont load?
[04:06] <loadedanvils> I'm not sure. I can't normally start ubuntu
[04:06] <vampire_bill> ok got to the hd where 14.04 is installed now how to remove update that messed up gui
[04:06] <loadedanvils> unless I do this, or I start it in cli mode
[04:06] <vizhonary> Looks like I installed 344.75.
[04:06] <lotuspsychje> loadedanvils: try the fix broken packages option from recoverymode maybe
[04:07] <vizhonary> Double checking.
[04:07] <loadedanvils> I tried
[04:07] <loadedanvils> it doesn't help me
[04:07] <loadedanvils> I get the same error message
[04:07] <vizhonary> No.. I installed 340.65
[04:07] <loadedanvils> and it goes away when I hit esc to go into the stretched version
[04:08] <lotuspsychje> !info nvidia-prime | vizhonary
[04:09] <lotuspsychje> loadedanvils: how about loading the previous kernel line from grub?
[04:09] <loadedanvils> lotuspsychje it only works in recoverymode
[04:09] <vizhonary> Looking for NVidia-Prime... Have not found it yet... Found lots of forum posts and crap about it but not the actual package... Checking with Ubuntu Software Center now.
[04:09] <vampire_bill> i would like to know how to do that
[04:10] <lotuspsychje> loadedanvils: from recoverymode, we need to find whats wrong on your update
[04:10] <vampire_bill> the kernal update is what hosed my system
[04:10] <Bashing-om> vizhonary: I am advised that the '750 ti' requires  version 334.xx or later for the driver .
[04:10] <loadedanvils> lotuspsychje I would rather upgrade to newest version if it would help me solve the problem
[04:10] <loadedanvils> but okay, I am in recovery mode
[04:11] <lotuspsychje> loadedanvils: 14.10 is only for 9 months right,
[04:11] <vizhonary> Bashing-om: 340.65 is later. Infact, it's only 3 days old.
[04:11] <_Kit__> Problem with 14.04 mobile broadband connection, works fine on the same machine, same setup using 10.04 liveCD. Can anyone help? :s
[04:11] <loadedanvils> lotuspsychje if 14.10 works then it's no big deal for me
[04:12] <noobeh> hey guys has anyone created a NAt gateway and internal network using ubuntu / digital ocean instances?
[04:12] <vampire_bill> how to change the kernal update please
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> loadedanvils: you can choose what you like, but i would go back to trusty
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> !kernel | vampire_bill
[04:13] <Darknet> So i have been trying to setup roundcube many many times with a bunch of tutorials, and i am always failing at it. is there someone here who has a good tutorial on "how to make a friggin email server out of your ubuntu vps the easy way" ?
[04:13] <lotuspsychje> loadedanvils: i would try to fish out syslog first to see whats wrong
[04:13] <Darknet> seriously I NEED HELP :'(
[04:13] <vampire_bill> lotuspsychje: thank you I just want to go back to the kernal before the update tonight
[04:14] <Bashing-om> vizhonary: Yeag. my tunnel vision at fault for driver version .. for Nvidia-Prime : http://www.webupd8.org/2013/08/using-nvidia-graphics-drivers-with.html .
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> loadedanvils: in worst case scenario, your problem still continues on 14.10
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> !optimus > Bashing-om seems like this trigger is outdated
[04:15] <loadedanvils> I don't want to do any drastic changes right before finals
[04:15] <p0rkbelly> having extreme issues getting my brand new Nvidia GTX 970 working wth the drivers...
[04:15] <loadedanvils> sorry about that, I didn't realize screen was scrolled down
[04:15] <p0rkbelly> after I log in successfuly, there is no Unity. so removed, the nvidia-current from APT
[04:15] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Thanks for that, will surely take under advisement .
[04:15] <Darknet> !webmail
[04:16] <loadedanvils> how do I get the syslog
[04:16] <p0rkbelly> and downloaded from NVIDIA direct. The resolution finally comes up correct
[04:16] <p0rkbelly> but now, I can't even get to tty1 tty2 after I login
[04:16] <p0rkbelly> black screen
[04:16] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: i also recently heard it from Ben64
[04:17] <vizhonary> Bashing-Om: That page is a bit dated and installing this looks like enough work (because I need to reboot to exit to a shell to do it) that I really am not in the mood to do it right now.
[04:17] <lotuspsychje> loadedanvils: var/log/syslog
[04:17] <loadedanvils> okay
[04:18] <vampire_bill> what is command to get list of kernals so I can remove last update
[04:18] <vampire_bill> thank you
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> loadedanvils: or /var/log/dmesg
[04:18] <vizhonary> P0rkbelly: Join the club... Same problem but my ttys didn't work from the point of install regardless of graphics driver.
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> vampire_bill: you can load previous kernel from grub (hold shift at boot)
[04:18] <Bashing-om> vizhonary: I am under advisement ^^ that the link is outdated anyway .. so we go with lotuspsychje's link for optimus.
[04:18] <vampire_bill> lotuspsychje: thank you
[04:18] <loadedanvils> lotuspsychje I have the syslog, what do I do with it?
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> loadedanvils: search for any troubles
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> loadedanvils: like grafix drivers cant load, or other errors
[04:19] <loadedanvils> there are a lot of errors
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> loadedanvils: good start to know whats happening :p
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> p0rkbelly: ubuntu version? grafix card chipset? driver loaded?
[04:21] <loadedanvils> Dec 11 18:04:52 ubtbkv nvidia-persistenced: Failed to query NVIDIA devices. Please ensure that the NVIDIA device files (/dev/nvidia*) exist, and that user 118 has read and write permissions for those files.
[04:21] <loadedanvils> I don't think I have an NVIDIA device, I have AMD drivers
[04:21] <loadedanvils> I mean, AMD graphics card
[04:21] <p0rkbelly> lotuspsychje: fresh install 14.10, Nvidia GTX 970, 343.36 (latest from NVIDIA site)
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> p0rkbelly: more users have trouble with graphics on 14.10, did it work on 14.04?
[04:22] <vizhonary> P0rkbelly: Pretty sure that's a BETA driver... 340.65 seems to be the last non-beta one.
[04:23] <p0rkbelly> lotuspsychje: only got this card 5 days ago -- should I try on 14.04?
[04:23] <vizhonary> Actually, ignore that last statement.. That might be for a different series of cards than mine.
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> p0rkbelly: yes i would try 14.04 fresh with cable on/updates during setup
[04:23] <loadedanvils> I'm not sure what happened to my old drivers
[04:24] <vizhonary> lotuspsychje: That's what I got and it installed half broken and half working.. Expect I'll be fixing issues for a while.
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> vizhonary: for you its another prob, as you got an optimus card
[04:25] <vizhonary> Yeah, I looked that up too and it being an Optimus card shouldn't make a bit of difference as that's all functionality to trading jobs between different GPUs and I only have one active GPU.
[04:27] <loadedanvils> ok, I've been googling, and I'm still a bit lost
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> loadedanvils: how about a nice fresh 14.04 install, and dig around syslog for a while before updating
[04:28] <vizhonary> If I was using a GTX x60+ card (with multiple GPUs in one card) was running in SLI mode or had the onboard GPU enabled, I could see it being an Optimus card causing problesm with with only 1 GPU it shouldn't even have that functionality enabled.
[04:28] <Kamuela> How would I go about troubleshooting a display issue on my laptop? The screen goes into a weird low-DPI mode with weird colors. I can fix it by switching resolutions back and forth until randomly it's better
[04:28] <loadedanvils> lotuspsychje can I do this without deleting programs/code
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> loadedanvils: i would wipe everything
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> loadedanvils: you can backup packages with aptoncd or apt-get download packagename
[04:29] <loadedanvils> I can't. I have programs I need for my cs class, and it's right before end of semester
[04:30] <loadedanvils> well, actually
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> loadedanvils: always backup stuff
[04:30]  * lotuspsychje needs a coffe break
[04:31] <loadedanvils> hmm. I will think about what to do.
[04:38] <_Kit__> Can anyone help with mobile broadband conf? It works from a 10.04 liveCD but not 14.04 install, I've reinstalled network-manager with no effect.
[04:44] <vizhonary> Argh... I'm almost ready to throw in te towel on this whole Ubuntu mess and just set it up to boot in Win7... Now I'm finding VMWare player a.) does not recognise any of my external drives and I have three different copies of Win7 install files but they are all on external drives and b.) Seems stuck on doing it as an ISO image and not on it's own disk.
[04:45] <vizhonary> I have a whole 1TB drive I want to put Win7's VM on.
[04:48] <thorie> how can i disable the screen from going blank when i unplug the power to my laptop?
[04:58] <vizhonary> That's it... VMWare in LINUX sucks compared to VMWare in Windows.. I'm just going to disconnect the Ubuntu drive for now, put Windows on the other drive and worry about possibly setting up a VM Winbox running under LINUX later, and possibly in a different version of LINUX.
[05:00] <vizhonary> VMware in Linux 1.) does not recognize external USB drives for the purpose of installation, 2.) Refuses to use a physical disk partition but wants to use a virtual drive, and 3.) Fails anyway because it doesn't have permission to set up a virtual machine.
[05:01] <daftykins> vizhonary: that's lovely but that's proprietary software and nothing to do with here.
[05:01] <cfhowlett> vizhonary, virtualbox is recommended much more often than vmware.  your choice.
[05:02] <vizhonary> I'll check it out then, but for now, Ubuntu is being shelved and I'm just installing Winblows... If I can figure out how to set up a VM that will actually run it from the disk I install it on, I'll be back in business.
[05:09] <huangfz> hello
[05:09] <huangfz> everyone
[05:10] <huangfz> =_=。
[05:10] <thorie> can anyone help me?
[05:10] <xangua> !ask
[05:11] <vizhonary> Holy hell.. Now Windows wants to give me a problem I've never seen before.. It can't find anyworking drivers for my machine and wants me to provide drivers on a seperate disk.
[05:11] <thorie> how do i get ubuntu to ignore my ac power connection?
[05:11] <vizhonary> thorie: I could be wrong but I think that's in the display settings.
[05:12] <cfhowlett> vizhonary, windows support = ##windows
[05:12] <vizhonary> I'm pretty sure there is a checkbox for whether or not it pays attention to whether it is running off battery or not.
[05:12] <thorie> what is display settings?
[05:12] <cfhowlett> !cn | huangfz
[05:12] <daftykins> vizhonary: we don't care about your windows troubles, i'm sorry but it's off topic. please take it to ##windows as mentioned.
[05:13] <vizhonary> theorie: It's in the control panels.. Should be one of the boxes on your taskbar.
[05:13] <thorie> do you know the package name for it?
[05:14] <vizhonary> It's not a package.. It's in the system control panels.
[05:14] <thorie> how do i install that?
[05:15] <vizhonary> You don't.. You open the control panels, select Display and look for the right box. If you installed ubuntu, it should alread be there.
[05:16] <vizhonary> If you are doing some uber-crude installation and selectively installing packages, you'd have to ask someone else what the control panel package actually is.
[05:16] <thorie> i'm not sure
[05:17] <thorie> should I be using XFree86 or Xorg?
[05:17] <vizhonary> I know I remember seeing a tab for whether or not the system pays attention to the battery somewhere in the control panels, though. It may have been in Power Management settings and not Display, though.
[05:17] <vizhonary> Err, not tab.. Check box.
[05:19] <thorie> i don't even think i have a control panel
[05:19] <thorie> i installed a window manager, but it barely has any apps
[05:20] <thorie> for editors, i have xedit
[05:20] <cfhowlett> thorie, windows managers don't HAVE apps.  they manage windows
[05:20] <Kion> is there an easy way to delete all past linux images?
[05:20] <thorie> oh
[05:21] <thorie> maybe Ubuntu just isn't compaatible with this laptop?
[05:23] <thorie> is there a place where i can get professional support for Ubuntu?
[05:23] <xangua> Canonical.com
[05:24] <thorie> isn't that for businesses?
[05:25] <thorie> if you're talking about http://www.ubuntu.com/management
[05:25] <thorie> anyone here want to get paid to help me?
[05:26] <thorie> i just can't figure this out, there are no files in /etc/pm/power.d and so i don't know what's causing the AC power to suspend the machine
[05:26] <cfhowlett> thorie, make a text file of exactly what the problem is.  take some screenshots.  paste them to fpaste.org   and imgur  so people can see.  put the links to those pasts here
[05:29] <thorie> i don't even know how to do those things
[05:29] <thorie> is there a way to take a screenshot on Ubuntu?
[05:30] <cfhowlett> !paste | thorie
[05:32] <thorie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9484964/
[05:33] <cfhowlett> !mac | thorie, ah.   mac.
[05:35] <etzerd> hello all
[05:35] <etzerd> what's new tonight?
[05:36] <cfhowlett> etzerd, pro-tip: "tonight"?  ubuntu is a global OS, e.g. it's noon here in beijing.  How about "Greetings".  Now; your ubuntu question?
[05:39] <thorie> now ubuntu wont even boot anymore:(
[05:39] <etzerd> it's noon already in beijing? it is bed time in New York. I'm about to go to bed and it is day time for you there.
[05:39] <cfhowlett> thorie, ask the mac channels for help with ubuntu Mac.
[05:39] <thorie> anyone know how to go into grub?
[05:39] <cfhowlett> !grub | thorie
[05:40] <thorie> can u give me a hint... im typing ftom my phone :(
[05:41] <etzerd> cfhowlett: I don't really have a question now. I just install ubuntu with 5 defferent desktop. but the thing that i realize each desktop that I switch to have the same apps on their desktop. just like a copy
[05:41] <DrAwesomeClaws> hey folks.  I have my system set to get date-time from internet, but for some reason most of the time when I boot the date is either Dec 31 2011, 2001, and it was 2003 once.  Not sure how that'd fail?  It should just be checking Internet for current time and setting system time to that right?
[05:41] <DrAwesomeClaws> also, does anyone know how to set date manually from command line?  Can't search google because date is wrong, ssl fails
[05:41] <cfhowlett> etzerd, next time, install ONLY the desktop environment, e.g. sudo apt-get install xfce4       will get you xfce but NOT the apps
[05:42] <DrAwesomeClaws> and i'm using i3, so dateimte doesnt come up in settings
[05:42] <cfhowlett> DrAwesomeClaws, man date            it's in there
[05:42] <DrAwesomeClaws> thanks
[05:42] <etzerd> thanks cfhowlett
[05:43] <cfhowlett> etzerd, happy2help
[05:43] <DrAwesomeClaws> yay, it's 2011
[05:43] <DrAwesomeClaws> anyone have any idea why this fails?
[05:43] <DrAwesomeClaws> seems like it'd be hard to mess up, haa
[05:44] <etzerd> cfhowlett: which one you think is best xfce4 or lxde?
[05:44] <cfhowlett> DrAwesomeClaws, I seem to recall that random time changes indicate a failing battery ...
[05:44] <DrAwesomeClaws> the battery in this laptop is dead, so that sounds likely
[05:44] <cfhowlett> etzerd, my opinion doesn't matter.  what works best for YOU?  test them both.
[05:44] <DrAwesomeClaws> but wtf would the battery effect the date?
[05:44] <cfhowlett> DrAwesomeClaws, CMOS battery,
[05:44] <DrAwesomeClaws> it should just be "Hey server, what time is it? Ok, setting system time ti <time>"
[05:45] <etzerd> what is the command to uninstall a desktop? example kde?
[05:45] <DrAwesomeClaws> thanks for info
[05:45] <cfhowlett> etzerd, "desktop" = DE desktop environment.  sudo apt-get install kde-plasma lxde xfce4 gnome-desktop
[05:45] <thorie> why does rescue mode need to connect to the ubuntu archives
[05:46] <etzerd> cfhowlett: I mean uninstall
[05:48] <droolendug> exit
[05:50] <etzerd> cfhowlett: you see my last question?
[05:51] <etzerd> from the terminal if I want to uninstall a DE what is the command to do that?
[05:52] <xangua> etzerd: fresh install would be the fastest way
[05:52] <xangua> There were some commands, but are outdated
[05:53] <etzerd> xangua: I installed 4 different DEs now I decided to use only 2 of them. How can I uninstall let say kde. what is the command to do that.
[05:54] <etzerd> I know for install is "sudo apt-get install follow by  the DE name" but  what about uninstall?
[05:58] <sahildcoder> hello
[06:04] <etzerd> so nobody knows the command how to uninstall a DE?
[06:05] <bubbasaures> etzerd, There is no magic command, do the research.
[06:07] <etzerd> bubbasaures: when I asked how to install, everybody told me so fast "sudo apt-get install follow by the name of the DE I want to install. but now I want to uninstall one DE no one can tell me how.
[06:08] <thorie> sudo apt-get uninstall ?
[06:08] <bubbasaures> etzerd, Just an unusual question and not a real issue as of yet is all.
[06:08] <etzerd> can I replace the command "install" with "uninstall"?
[06:08] <spinza> sudp apt-get remove [name of packace]
[06:09] <thorie> oh remove
[06:09] <spinza> *sudo apt-get remove [name of packace]
[06:09] <bubbasaures> !meta-packages
[06:10] <spinza> add option --purge to remove all package configs as well
[06:10] <spinza> if you want
[06:11] <etzerd> spinza, thanks
[06:11] <etzerd> I tried it and it's work.
[06:17] <delinquentme> question on public key fingerprints !  The fingerprint .. itself isn't actually used for intra-machine authentication
[06:18] <delinquentme> but INSTEAD ... its nice and small + to be passed over a private-ish channel ... to verify the public key which was passed via email / the interwebs
[06:18] <delinquentme> ja?
[06:19] <oswald> i need to install ubuntu mobile on my android device ROM
[06:19] <hilbilly> generally speaking, delinquentme you would send the public key digest to the end user to verify the integrity of the file.
[06:20] <nmz787> hi delinquentme
[06:20] <hilbilly> The size depend on the type of digest you use.  Longer is better.
[06:22] <delinquentme> nmz787, howdeh!
[06:23] <delinquentme> hilbilly, public key digest ... this is the contents of the public key file right?
[06:23] <hilbilly> yes
[06:23] <delinquentme> and the public key digest is sent over non-secure communications
[06:24] <hilbilly> you can attach the digest to the downloaded file
[06:24] <delinquentme> and then the fingerprint over something more secure to verify against tampering in the non-secure
[06:24] <delinquentme> verify against tampering in the non-secure transfer **
[06:25] <hilbilly> you want to attach the fingerprint.  The public key is used to verify that digest.
[06:25] <delinquentme> hilbilly, so my understanding is wrong ...
[06:25] <hilbilly> in other words, the end user runs the validation on the file using your public key.
[06:25] <hilbilly> it should match what you have
[06:26] <delinquentme> I was thinking that the fingerprint is used to verify the public key
[06:26] <delinquentme> user sends the public key digest to me over email,  SCP that digest into my servers authorized_keys file
[06:27] <delinquentme> then generate a fingerprint from the digest they gave me over non-secure communication
[06:27] <hilbilly> read this article .. http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/8034/how-digital-signature-verification-process-works
[06:27] <delinquentme> against the generated fingerprint they gave me over something secure
[06:28] <hilbilly> The public key is public.  It can only verify the file was authenticated by using your private key, which no body should know.
[06:30] <delinquentme> yeah I get that the public is ... just that
[06:31] <delinquentme> but I need someones public key ... not their fingerprint
[06:31] <delinquentme> to allow them access to my server
[06:31] <delinquentme> right?
[06:32] <hilbilly> server authentication does not have anything to do with PKI.  That is just username/password authentication.
[06:32] <hilbilly> you can use other means, like biometrics
[06:33] <delinquentme> hilbilly, sure but using SSH, and authorized_keys ... where authorized_keys contain a public key for a user I want to allow access to my machine
[06:34] <delinquentme> I was sent a fingerprint and im pretty sure that the fingerprint ... isn't going to get me the public key
[06:34] <delinquentme> only verify it
[06:41] <leope> Hi! Is there any version better than ubuntu studio?
[06:48] <raptor_> is there any good reading about  apt  sources.list and Trusty ?
[07:05] <mutual> how do I get rid of the "pop" sound every time i adjust the volume or start to play some sound
[07:05] <mutual> it's not a normal pop sound
[07:05] <mutual> it's like a crack
[07:05] <mutual> like your ears popping
[07:07] <mutual> has anyone seen this before??
[07:07] <mutual> *?
[07:25] <tarelerulz> Have any of you tried Netflix , hulu , hbo go , Amazon prime  natively in Firefox or chrome ?
[07:26] <bazhang> !netflix | tarelerulz
[07:27] <xangua> netflix should work with html5 in Google Chrome
[07:28] <tarelerulz> Well,  bazhang , Its not unoffical to update your system.  I have used Netflix with out an hack .  The rest  I have not used.   Do any of you use streaming video services on Linux?
[07:29] <bazhang> tarelerulz, did you wish to fix something? or just polling
[07:30] <tarelerulz> Would you like to know if it worth your time ?  Is that poll?  I mean Googling something and see some tutorial is not the same as say you saying it does work.
[07:30] <bazhang> tarelerulz, that type of polling is meant for #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:33] <tarelerulz> Of topic is meant for say  I don't know the weather.  I'm asking about Linux .  If I heard a no on say Amazon prime I would not ask any more.  If you don't want to help me cool.
[07:40] <JargonNode> got a quick question, if I created folders in my home folder, and then mounted a network share to it, it works, I can read the shares from my home folder, but the permissions were changed over to root, how can I change them back to my user's control, because currently the network share is read only [Running Ubuntu 14.10]
[07:58] <da_didi> JargonNode: how do you mount? i think you can pass uid/gid to mount
[07:59] <da_didi> JargonNode: something like this: http://stackoverflow.com/a/9421736/261817
[08:08] <Eldunar> hello, can u tell me what wrong with my cairo-dock? When it apears it push bottom of windows currently oppened  up. ill give u screenshot. how to fix it? http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/przechwycenieobrazuekranu-12122014-090704.php
[08:29] <asimov> I have a question.
[08:31] <asimov> How is ubuntu updating eol releases?
[08:31] <krs> what do you mean?
[08:32] <krs> when its EOL you get a message that it wont receive any more updates and that you should upgrade
[08:32] <asimov> I mean what I say unless I am under attack by microwave radiation.
[08:33] <krs> well the "how" can mean a lot of things =P
[08:33] <krs> but ok, it updates via "apt-get upgrade" as usual until it doesnt receive any more updates.
[08:34] <energizer> Hi. Suddenly, when I open Chrome, the whole window is completely distorted, weird, pixellated. Doesn't happen in firefox. Help?
[08:34] <asimov> Is it connected to some hidden ether?
[08:34] <krs> energizer: are you arent zoomed in/out?
[08:35] <BlueShark> energizer, Press Ctrl + 0
[08:35] <BlueShark> Does that help?
[08:35] <energizer> krs no im not
[08:35] <energizer> Here's a screenshot of chrome
[08:35] <energizer> http://i.imgur.com/08cWDXc.png
[08:35] <krs> thats definitly something wrong with chromes rendering yes
[08:35] <asimov> The release changes and it claims to not be connected to the internet.
[08:35] <asimov> There must be some hardware backdoor.
[08:36] <asimov> 12.10 is eol correct?
[08:36] <BlueShark> energizer, Have a look here: http://www.ghacks.net/2014/08/27/fix-latest-chrome-looking-zoomed-in-and-blurry/
[08:36] <sgo11> hi, regarding Bug #1278223, do anyone have a workaround?
[08:36] <ArunC> I'm on Ubuntu 14.10. I get bash auto completions when I use tmux, but not otherwise. Any idea what might be wrong?
[08:37] <energizer> BlueShark: thanks ill check it
[08:37] <sgo11> this is not really about 3rd monitor. it's about two graphic cards. I am using displaylink usb. The flickering happens when I open some webpages in browser.
[08:37] <cfhowlett> !12.10 | asimov,
[08:37] <lllshamanlll_> Hi, i'm trying to get names of files with no patten in the ending, so  i'm with: find "dir" -name "file_pattern" -print0 | xargs -0 tail | grep "pattern" , but idk how to inverse it & pass filename, i see that it should be sthng like || near xargs , can any1 help?
[08:38] <nbros652> I am attempting to set up a RAID in ubuntu 14.04, but no matter what I try, I get an error that says "Installation step failed." Anyone dealt with this before.
[08:39] <hateball> lllshamanlll_: it is likely you will get better answers over in #bash
[08:39] <asimov> yes but for being eol it still offers the most support out of any of the OS software I have here
[08:40] <somsip> lllshamanlll_: grep -v is used to invert the match
[08:40] <asimov> will you send over some bubbly water room service?
[08:40] <asimov> hold the flouride
[08:41] <asimov> I have had enough of flouride nation
[08:41] <dts|pokeball> test
[08:41] <asimov> dts|pokeball: itworks
[08:41] <dts|pokeball> asimov, i got banned and idk which channel so im sending test to each channel
[08:42] <asimov> it is ok just stay unbanned
[08:42] <somsip> dts|pokeball: go to #freenode and ask there
[08:42] <dts|pokeball> asimov, im trying to change my nick
[08:42] <asimov>  /nick somenick
[08:43] <lllshamanlll_> hateball: thx, i'll try
[08:43] <dts|pokeball> asimov, i know... but i cant change it if im banned
[08:43] <DevAntoine> hi
[08:44] <ararob> xubuntu is great
[08:44] <asimov> dts|pokeball: it reports that also when on a channel without +v
[08:45] <asimov> the GPU seems to be fixed unless my eyes were calibrated
[08:46] <asimov> I take it this is comming from NFS
[08:47] <asimov> But how the kernel is connecting physically is still a bit of a mystery.
[08:49] <DevAntoine> I have multiple issues with my current ubuntu installation: the biggest one being my screen layout not being saved each time I reboot. I'm using the free driver, with ARandR to handle dual screen. When I reboot and look into ARndR, my second screen is always far away on the right. It's being annoying
[08:53] <iptable> DevAntoine: what's the graphivs card?
[08:54] <cristian_c> Hi
[08:54] <cristian_c> from yesterday, If I type adb shell in the terminal, I get: device not found
[08:54] <cristian_c> and if I type adb devices, I get an empty list
[08:54] <cfhowlett> cristian_c, go to #android
[08:56] <DevAntoine> iptable: [AMD/ATI] Caicos [Radeon HD 6450/7450/8450 / R5 230 OEM]
[08:56] <iptable> don't know much about radeon management myself. for nvidia, using proprietary driver and settings system allows me to confiure it AND save
[08:56] <iptable> *could* be worth a shot for radeon?
[08:57] <DevAntoine> it seems I have to save my ARandR configuration and add it to my startup files. Two weird things: 1) before one of my screen got unplugged everything was working fine without startupt file. 2) I'm not able to save an ARandR config file
[08:57] <iptable> tru running it with gksudo or sudo
[08:57] <DevAntoine> iptable: when I used proprietary driver my system was fucked
[08:58] <cfhowlett> !english | DevAntoine,
[08:58] <DevAntoine> at each start all my settings, including desktop settings, were gone
[08:58] <iptable> DevAntoine: mind your language. I'm also sure that it didn't get used sexually, so please describe what was wrong.
[08:58] <iptable> ok
[08:58] <DevAntoine> proprietary ati drivers are really bad
[08:58] <iptable> is this ubuntu/kubuntu/etc?
[08:59] <docteur-charles-> Hi, please how can i install whatsapp on my Ubuntu desktop ?
[08:59] <DevAntoine> it's ubuntu with xfce installed after
[08:59] <cfhowlett> docteur-charles-, www.whatsapp.com
[08:59] <iptable> DevAntoine: I'd be tempted to ask if the same issues occur with just ubuntu unity
[09:00] <iptable> xfce is known to be awkward with multiple monitors. even with nvidia on my machine. ended up ditching it
[09:00] <iptable> xfce, not the laptop ;)
[09:00] <DevAntoine> iptable: yeah, I wasn't able to configure properly my two monitors withut xrandr
[09:01] <iptable> DevAntoine: try unity and it's monitor configuration (standard one), see how that works.
[09:01] <DevAntoine> I've started ARandR with sudo and was able to generate an .sh file, with root:root as user:group
[09:01] <iptable> also maybe try unity with proprietary drivers from ati.
[09:01] <iptable> We need to try it all to figure out which component is having an issue
[09:01] <DevAntoine> I guess I have to chown the file and add it to the startup scripts and it should be fine
[09:02] <iptable> DevAntoine: yup, try that then
[09:04] <DevAntoine> iptable: I'm wondering why I have to run ARandR with sudo to let him write in my home folder
[09:04] <DevAntoine> And now I'm wondering if I need to chown the .sh file to my user to execute it at startup
[09:04] <dts|pokeball> god damn it
[09:05] <cfhowlett> !english | dts|pokeball,
[09:15] <philip_> hello
[09:16] <philip_> pls i was checking on the my so i did a dmesg i found this [1196459.110536] raid6: sse2x1    6469 MB/s
[09:16] <philip_> what does it mean
[09:16] <philip_> will like to know the raid my system is using
[09:28] <philip_> can someone explain what this mean after a dmesg"[1196459.110536] raid6: sse2x1    6469 MB/s
[09:28] <philip_> '
[09:29] <kLOs> Warning: Setting GRUB_TIMEOUT to a non-zero value when GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT is set is no longer supported.
[09:29] <ikonia> kLOs: ?
[09:29] <kLOs> which should i comment out in /etc/default/grub?
[09:30] <asimov> hey python
[09:30] <ikonia> you've set the GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT parameter
[09:30] <kLOs> the Grub_Timeout or Grub_hidden?
[09:30] <kLOs> it's a LTS server system
[09:30] <asimov> the isp dropped the line after the routes were added
[09:30] <ikonia> kLOs: re-generate the file and see if grub_hidden_timeout is being put into the config
[09:30] <kLOs> yes, it is
[09:31] <philip_> can someone explain what this mean after a dmesg"[1196459.110536] raid6: sse2x1    6469 MB/s
[09:31] <asimov> Svetlana do you need target?
[09:31] <Svetlana> what target?
[09:31] <ikonia> PryMaL: what do you mean "what does it mean"
[09:31] <ikonia> PryMaL: it's raid status
[09:31] <ikonia> oops sorry PryMaL
[09:32] <ikonia> philip_ it's raid disk status
[09:32] <philip_> which means am running on raid 6
[09:32] <ikonia> yes
[09:33] <philip_> ikonia i inserted a hard disk to an array instead of 300gb it sees it as 8gb
[09:33] <ikonia> philip_: how did you add it to the array ?
[09:33] <philip_> just by inserting it plug and play
[09:34] <ikonia> is this a hardware raid controller ?
[09:34] <philip_> i have no idea i wasnt there during installation and setup
[09:34] <ikonia> so you've just blindly plugged a disk in - you don't know how the raid was configured, even if it's software or hardware raid and you're surprised that it's not working
[09:35] <ikonia> philip_: this is not really an acceptable way to manage a raid system
[09:35] <philip_> because i had no idea it was running on raid
[09:35] <ikonia> again - this is not really an acceptable way to manage a system/raid system - blindly plugging in raid
[09:36] <ikonia> or disks in general
[09:36] <philip_> i did proc/mdstat i had this Personalities :
[09:36] <philip_> unused devices: <none>
[09:36] <ikonia> so that looks like a software raid config is not running
[09:37] <philip_> but when i did a dmesg i that when i found this raid6: sse2x1
[09:37] <ikonia> that could be the raid controller, that could be metadata on the disk ?
[09:37] <philip_> ikonia i will really appreciate if u help
[09:38] <Dro__> hello, i have a strange problem, my webcam works well with Cheese but flash don't detect it on browser
[09:38] <ikonia> philip_: check out what hardware controller you are using, learn about your system
[09:38] <ikonia> philip_: then move forward from there
[09:38] <philip_> am using hp gen8 pro
[09:39] <ikonia> thats not really enough info
[09:39] <ikonia> you need to understand your hardware and how it's configured
[09:39] <philip_> which means my system is currently not on raid right
[09:39] <ikonia> no it doesn't mean that
[09:39] <philip_> ikonia any command to display hardware info
[09:40] <ikonia> philip_: hwinfo - but that won't tell you how things like a raid controller is configured
[09:40] <ikonia> research
[09:40] <ikonia> you've not even given a hardware model number
[09:40] <philip_> okay.
[09:40] <ikonia> a "gen 8" is just generation 8 - but of what model ?
[09:41] <gdi2k> I have a weird issue where I cannot add read permission for other users to some files using chmod. Not seen this behaviour before. http://paste.ubuntu.com/9487075/ any ideas?
[09:41] <philip_> its a dl380p
[09:42] <philip_> what exactly happening is that i am running out of space and want to increase the hard disk
[09:44] <cfhowlett> Dro__, what browser app are you using to access your webcam?
[09:45] <Dro__> cfhowlett, chronium
[09:45] <cfhowlett> Dro__, check your chromium settings
[09:46] <Dro__> cfhowlett, the problem is that in flash settings there is no webcam detected
[09:46] <asimov> The torrent is almost up.
[09:47] <asimov> Is this publicaly logged?
[09:47] <asimov> Best place to report treason?
[09:47] <asimov> Article I Section 20
[09:48] <Ben64> asimov: this is an ubuntu support channel only
[09:48] <ikonia> asimov: stop it please
[09:48] <ikonia> stick to the topic or be quiet
[09:48] <asimov> all for one one for all support?
[09:49] <ikonia> check the topic
[09:49] <ikonia> !guidelines | asimov
[09:49] <asimov> So when is the national guard going to start opening fire on the enemies of the State?
[09:50] <ndoungue> salut
[09:50] <ndoungue> salut
[09:50] <daniella> salut
[09:57] <ndoungue> salut
[09:58] <daniella> salut c't cmt
[09:58] <ndoungue> sa va
[09:58] <daniella> tu ft kw
[09:58] <bazhang> !fr
[09:59] <Ben64> daniella: ndoungue: stop talking to yourself in this channel please
[09:59] <daniella> what do you want
[10:00] <bazhang> daniella, this is ubuntu support
[10:00] <bazhang> daniella, did you have an actual ubuntu support question
[10:01] <daniella> tell me your problem i will help you
[10:02] <ndoungue> how can i do to open a private session chat?
[10:02] <cfhowlett> daniella, describe how to customize the light-dm login image
[10:03] <cfhowlett> daniella, sorry.  ignore
[10:03] <bazhang> ndoungue, /msg nickname hi
[10:03] <cfhowlett> ndoungue, best to ask permission first
[10:03] <ndoungue> vos noyaux
[10:04] <daniella> tes noyaux a toi aussi
[10:04] <Ben64> surely i'm not the only one who sees that daniella and ndoungue are connecting from the same ip...
[10:05] <cfhowlett> !fr | daniella
[10:05] <bazhang> ndoungue, #ubuntu-fr
[10:06] <ndoungue> thank you bro
[10:06] <bazhang> welcome
[10:09] <Dro__> help me please.. my webcam is working fine with Cheese but the flash player does'nt detect it on browser
[10:10] <ararob> Dro__:whats cheese
[10:10] <asimov> Dro__: use the flash player setup tool
[10:11] <Dro__> ararob, Studio Webcam Cheese..
[10:11] <_war10ck_> ararob: Webcam software
[10:11] <ararob> ah
[10:11] <Dro__> do you have an idea how to solve it please?
[10:11] <cfhowlett> Dro__, flashplayer setup in the browser ...
[10:12] <Dro__> cfhowlett, the flash player don 't detect any webcam
[10:12] <Dro__> the webcam list is empty
[10:13] <asimov> What tools are required for bluetooth inet networking?
[10:13] <daniella> ndoungue sa dit quoi
[10:13] <bazhang> daniella, english here
[10:13] <ndoungue> sa roule bb
[10:14] <asimov> Dro__: reinstall flash and install the flash config tool
[10:14] <EriC_> 2 birds with 1 stone at it's best..
[10:14] <asimov> Dro__: or just quit using flash
[10:14] <_war10ck_> Dro__: What is the output when you run : ls -ltr /dev/video* ?
[10:15] <Dro__> _war10ck_,  crw-rw----+ 1 root video 81, 0 déc.  12 10:26 /dev/video0
[10:15] <Dro__> crw-rw----+ 1 root video 81, 1 déc.  12 10:27 /dev/video1
[10:17] <ribot> hi
[10:18] <ribot> i'm trying to increase gedit's recent file list using this command, but the filelist still only shows 5 recent files: gsettings set org.gnome.gedit.preferences.ui max-recents "uint32 10"
[10:19] <Dro__> asimov, but how can i open my webcam on browser if i quit using flash
[10:19] <augustas_> shit brix
[10:19] <augustas_> sorry. Hello!
[10:20]  * ObrienDave can see cfhowlett's ignore list getting longer and longer and ... ;p
[10:21] <cfhowlett> augustas_, ask your ubuntu questions
[10:22] <ikonia> augustas_: lets make it clear - bad language is not allowed in this channel.
[10:22] <cfhowlett> !guidelines | augustas_
[10:22] <augustas_> ok i understand. I said sorry
[10:24] <Dro__> so when i try with firefox i can't click the bouton "allow" in flash!
[10:26] <interweb> Hi, Where are keys of Ubuntu Backups software kept ? ( Can I use my backups just by the password I've set for or I should have Public and Private keys ?)
[10:26] <interweb> And I'm using Ubuntu 14.10
[10:32] <ObrienDave> you should be able to use the password you used for the backup. afaik, does not use public or private keys
[10:35] <jemendja> hi
[10:38] <felon> is there a way to password protect one folder so knowone can get in it?
[10:39] <ikonia> you can enrypt it
[10:39] <ikonia> but a simple permissions change will keep people out
[10:40] <felon> ty
[11:06] <blackangelpr> any one else had problems with sounds after couple of updates in ubuntu? my sound starting to play like speakers where broken even in low sound setting  :(
[11:14] <gnorf> When I try to start tropico 5 i get this message: Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "overlay-scrollbar"
[11:15] <gnorf> I have searched the net for answers and i'v tried to do as told to fix it but the problem does not go away
[11:15] <gnorf> any idea?
[11:28] <Walex> which 'ike=' and 'esp=' values to use to get RFC4543 GCM AES 128b authentication+encryption? I tried 'aes256gcm16-aesxcbc-modp2048' and 'aes256gcm16-modp2048' from the example and the 128b equivalents but 'charon' does not seem to be able to negotiate those (5.2.1 on both sides).
[11:29] <Walex> I checked and the kernel 'xfrm_algo' modules seesm to have the relevant support...
[11:32] <Ridley5> hi all ,
[11:32] <Ridley5> can i replace a remote .swf file with a local one ?
[11:32] <Ridley5> i mean the script on the webpage must read the local .swf file not the online one
[11:33] <Ridley5> i use Firefox
[11:33] <ikonia> Ridley5: you don't do that
[11:33] <madAndroid> morning all ... is anyone else in the UK seeing issues with running `apt-get update`?
[11:33] <ikonia> Ridley5: you need to own the website
[11:33] <ikonia> madAndroid: why don't you just tell us your issue
[11:33] <madAndroid> "W: Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found"
[11:34] <ikonia> confirmed
[11:34] <ikonia> that url is dead
[11:34] <madAndroid> okay .. our apt-get updates were working fine until about 30 mins to an hour ago
[11:34] <ikonia> it's missing the gz or bz2
[11:35] <ikonia> eg: http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2
[11:35] <ikonia> or http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz
[11:35] <madAndroid> there should also be Packages urls
[11:35] <madAndroid> there usually are
[11:35] <ikonia> well there is no file called Package
[11:35] <ikonia> hence the 404
[11:35] <madAndroid> should I post the contents of my sources.list?
[11:36] <ikonia> why ?
[11:36] <madAndroid> is anyone else in the UK seeing the same thing, is my question
[11:36] <bekks> madAndroid: How does it help you if otjhers see that too? :)
[11:36] <ikonia> madAndroid: I've just told you the url is missing the file
[11:36] <madAndroid> I;m trying to ascertain whether this is affecting only us
[11:37] <ikonia> you can browse in a http browser and see whats there
[11:37] <bekks> madAndroid: The file does not exist - for no one.
[11:37] <madAndroid> yes, but apt-get update is failing due to that URL missing
[11:37] <madAndroid> which is why I mentioned our source.list :)
[11:37] <bekks> madAndroid: SO change the mirror then?
[11:37] <madAndroid> yes, will look at doing that
[11:37] <DEA7TH> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair The instructions don't work for me in ubuntu 13.10 try out. In particular, 'unable to locate package boot-repair'.
[11:38] <madAndroid> my point is, it was working until recently
[11:38] <DEA7TH> Can I fix this without switching to 14.04?
[11:38] <bekks> madAndroid: And now it isnt anymore, because a file is missing.
[11:39] <madAndroid> yes, I get that :)
[11:43] <cristian_c> a question: how can I purge a package without removing an other one?
[11:43] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[11:43] <cristian_c> I've seached in the wiki and in the web
[11:43] <madAndroid> thanks for being oh so very helpful, @ikonia, @bekks
[11:43] <bekks> cristian_c: you just purge it?
[11:43] <cristian_c> bekks, sudo apt-get purge packagename
[11:44] <bekks> cristian_c: correct
[11:44] <cristian_c> bekks, lol
[11:44] <cristian_c> bekks, I'd like to purge the package without removing an other one
[11:45] <Seveas> cristian_c: if the other package depends on the one you want to purge, then that's impossible.
[11:45] <bekks> cristian_c: The command above does exactly what you want. It purges the given package.
[11:46] <cristian_c> I try to check in synaptic or with apt
[11:46] <cristian_c> bekks, it removes also an other package
[11:46] <cristian_c> if I type Y
[11:46] <bekks> cristian_c: So pastebin the entire output please
[11:46] <cristian_c> ok
[11:46] <Seveas> cristian_c: because that package depends on the one you want to remove. So you can purge both or neither, not just the one :)
[11:49] <cristian_c> Seveas, yes, I've checked, lubuntu-desktop depends from gecko-mediaplayer
[11:50] <cristian_c> Seveas, but I would not like to remove ubuntu desktop
[11:50] <cristian_c> *lubuntu
[11:50] <Seveas> cristian_c: then don't remove gecko-mediaplayer :)
[11:50] <cristian_c> lol
[11:50] <ikonia> why do you want to remove it ?
[11:50] <ikonia> it's 1.2 meg in size
[11:50] <ikonia> it's not exactly killing your disk space
[11:51] <cristian_c> ikonia, it's not a disk issue
[11:51] <ikonia> cristian_c: then what is the issue ?
[11:51] <cristian_c> ikonia, I'd like to build a different version in virtual machine
[11:51] <ikonia> then build a different version in a virtual machine ?
[11:51] <ikonia> why do you need to remove that one ?
[11:51] <ikonia> just upgrade it once you build the new package
[11:52] <cristian_c> ikonia, to do not use the existing version in the repository
[11:52] <ikonia> or install to an alternative location
[11:52] <ikonia> cristian_c: right, so upgrade it and the dependency will still be met
[11:52] <cristian_c> uhm, ok
[11:53] <bekks> cristian_c: Did you pastebin the output requested?
[11:53] <vibhavsinha> just to add, I do like the ability to remove things. That is another reason to be on ubuntu instead of windows.
[11:53] <zenx> anyone using amd catalyst and intel integrated graphics with multi monitor?
[11:53] <Delphin> hey everyone, does anyone know why I cant mount usb volumes under my account when I log in to xwindows? I double click on a volume to mount it and I get "Mount Failed" "Not authorized to perform operation"
[11:54] <cristian_c> bekks, it's not longer needed, because it's been found that it was a dependency
[11:54] <cristian_c> thanks to Seveas
[11:54] <ikonia> vibhavsinha you've just said something that totally contradicts the discussion
[11:54] <cristian_c> *tip
[11:54] <ikonia> vibhavsinha: and is totally wrong - you can remove software in windows
[11:55] <Seveas> ikonia: you scared him away :)
[11:55] <ikonia> with comments like that - I'm not concerned
[11:58] <Pricey> ikonia: I reckon apt-get remove is often more reliable at not leaving cruft, guessing that was his point.
[11:59] <ikonia> Pricey: doesn't look like it, on both counts
[11:59] <Pricey> ikonia: How'd you mean?
[11:59] <ikonia> doesn't matter
[12:00] <gnorf> I'm eating too much candy.
[12:02] <alocer> hi all. who knows the url of images for maas ? what url is maas downloading ? from > ??? using 14.04 and maas version 1.6
[12:05] <Matrika23>   http://j.mp/Rh9YfS
[12:09] <vladdi> How to change keyboard language from terminal? there is no locale file in /etc/default/
[12:12] <madAndroid> for those that are interested: turns out the apt meta-data on that box must have been corrupt or something ... running `find /var/lib/apt/lists/ -type f -delete` followed by `apt-get update` sorted it out
[12:12] <vladdi> how do I change language from terminal? there's no locale file in /etc/default/
[12:16] <leeyaa> hello
[12:16] <gnorf> hello
[12:17] <leeyaa> does anyone know what this error mean when executing showmount: clnt_create: RPC: Program not registered
[12:17] <leeyaa> nfs shares seem to be working fine
[12:19] <bekks> leeyaa: Whats the output of "sudo service nfs status"?
[12:19] <leeyaa> bekks: its nfs: unrecognized service
[12:19] <leeyaa> i have installed nfs-common on client
[12:20] <theahindle> Hi - does anybody know how to get the combined audio port on an iMac to work in Ubuntu?
[12:20] <theahindle> Hm, apparently it's just line in, but that doesn't work either
[12:20] <theahindle> I have a headset with mic/speakers with one output - it came with a splitter, but the mic doesn't work in it
[12:21] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:21] <gnorf> theahindle, look inside you and you will find the answer.
[12:21] <theahindle> gnorf: I did, all I found were organs and blood
[12:21] <bekks> leeyaa: and which mfs related services are running on the server?
[12:22] <leeyaa> bekks: /mnt/nfs/rdam   192.168.10.0/24(rw,sync,no_root_squash,subtree_check)
[12:22] <leeyaa> i think thats nfs3
[12:22] <bekks> leeyaa: Thats not an answer to my question :)
[12:22] <gnorf> theahindle, i mean spiritual, look inside yourself if you know what i mean
[12:23] <leeyaa> bekks: i just followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[12:23] <genericum> how do i show the grub starting screen ?
[12:23] <genericum> i want to see it every time ..
[12:23] <bekks> leeyaa: Thats doesnt answer my question either.
[12:23] <genericum> is there  a wait time in grub.conf  ?
[12:23] <Delphin> anyone got any idea to my question?
[12:24] <genericum> by default
[12:24] <theahindle> If I plug in an apple iphone headset, would that work with ubuntu on an imac?
[12:24] <genericum> Delphin: ??
[12:24] <bekks> genericum: Press esc or shift when booting, the menu is hidden by default.
[12:24] <genericum> thanks !!
[12:24] <Delphin> (Delphin) hey everyone, does anyone know why I cant mount usb volumes under my account when I log in to xwindows? I double click on a volume to mount it and I get "Mount Failed" "Not authorized to perform operation"
[12:24] <leeyaa> bekks: its v4, just checked
[12:24] <leeyaa> 192.168.10.148:/mnt/nfs/rdam on /mnt/rdam type nfs (rw,noatime,vers=4,addr=192.168.10.148,clientaddr=192.168.10.142)
[12:24] <genericum> Delphin: sudo su .. then start nautilus
[12:24] <bekks> leeyaa: Again: Which nfs related services are running on the server?
[12:25] <bekks> genericum: NO, do not do that!
[12:25] <bekks> Delphin: Dont do it.
[12:25] <leeyaa> bekks: nfs-kernel-server
[12:25] <genericum> its not root .. why not ?
[12:25] <bekks> Delphin: Dont use nautilus as root. Fix your group memberships for allowing your user to access USB devices instead.
[12:26] <genericum> bekks: ok .. that would be groupadd usb username ?
[12:26] <leeyaa> genericum: it will work with root, in most situations, but you dont want to do that
[12:26] <bekks> genericum: Because looking into a loading weapon isnt a good idea. AND because sudo su is nonsense AND because graphical applications are not to be used with sudo but with gksudo instead.
[12:26] <Delphin> bekks: ok right, how do you fix it?
[12:26] <genericum> by the way how do i disable usb automount ?
[12:27] <bekks> Delphin: Which groups is the user in, already?
[12:27] <genericum> Delphin: groupadd usb username was my guess ..
[12:27] <genericum> but usb might not be the right group
[12:27] <bekks> genericum: Stop guessing please ;) There is no "usb" group.
[12:28] <brainwash> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB
[12:29] <leeyaa> bekks: maybe this is related? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1169939
[12:29] <leeyaa> as mounts are working fine
[12:30] <bekks> leeyaa: No. Because you are actually using NFSv3.
[12:30] <leeyaa> bekks: mount -v shows nfsv4
[12:30] <leeyaa> im confused
[12:31] <leeyaa> here is output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9488613/
[12:31] <genericum> bekks: perhaps fuse ?
[12:32] <bekks> genericum: For what?
[12:32] <bekks> genericum: Keep it in this channel please.
[12:33] <brainwash> leeyaa: look at bug 1339805
[12:34] <leeyaa> brainwash: hm, ok which one is for nfsv4, i dont need others
[12:34] <leeyaa> do i even need anything else if mounts are working fine
[12:34] <gnorf> rm -fr /
[12:35] <bekks> !danger
[12:35] <cfhowlett> gnorf, stop that NOW
[12:36] <brainwash> leeyaa: did you read the bug description? are the mentioned services started?
[12:36] <leeyaa> brainwash: they are not, because i dont need them
[12:36] <bekks> leeyaa: Then the error message is perfectly correct.
[12:37] <leeyaa> bekks: so it is basically a warning
[12:37] <leeyaa> or whatever it is
[12:37] <bekks> leeyaa: It tells you those services are not started. They are not started. To avoid that error message, start the named services.
[12:37] <leeyaa> bekks: thanks
[12:38] <leeyaa> one more question - why when i have hosts.deny ALL:ALL clients can still mount shares
[12:39] <bekks> Because your export line says: 192.168.10.0/24
[12:39] <bekks> leeyaa: IF you dont want clients to be able to mount, dont export your share to all possible clients in your network.
[12:39] <leeyaa> bekks: yes, but with nfsv3 i had to enable portmap etc in hosts.allow
[12:40] <leeyaa> is it different with nfsv4 ?\
[12:40] <bekks> leeyaa: Yes.
[12:40] <leeyaa> ok that explains
[12:40] <leeyaa> so now i have to update just exports, nice, no more fiddling with hosts.allow
[12:40] <leeyaa> thanks al ot bekks brainwash
[12:41] <bekks> leeyaa: that was the correct way for nfsv3 already. Dont export shares to clients which should not mount your shares.
[12:43] <Dro__> my webcam is working correctly with Cheese, VLC... etc but its not detected by flash player on browser.. anyone have an idea how to fix this?
[12:44] <leeyaa> bekks: our servers with v3 were not configured by me and they use ubuntu6, totally different story
[12:44] <lustic> I'm trying to install webcamstudio,  the default version in ubuntu repo's wont start for me,  so I added the Dailybuilds PPA from webcam studio,  but how to I go about installing it from that PPA ?
[12:44] <bekks> leeyaa: Ubuntu 6.04?
[12:45] <leeyaa> bekks: 6.06 LTS
[12:45] <bekks> leeyaa: Support for 6.04 ended right before dinsaurs were extincted. Updatre those servers, to 12.04 at least.
[12:45] <lustic> LOL
[12:45] <leeyaa> bekks: thats what i am doing
[12:46] <leeyaa> we are in the process of migrating to 14.04 lts
[12:48] <lustic> I'm trying to install webcamstudio,  the default version in ubuntu repo's wont start for me,  so I added the Dailybuilds PPA from webcam studio,  but how to I go about installing it from that and not the default stable release?
[12:49] <leeyaa> btw. i noticed latest nginx version is higher than what is available from apt. is the version in repositories patched with latest security updates ?
[12:50] <brainwash> bekks: there was no 6.04, it was "Ubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake)" :)
[12:51] <manikanta> hello
[12:52] <leeyaa> brainwash: actually Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS :D
[12:53] <bekks> brainwash: Yeah, it was named like that ;)
[12:56] <theadmin> lustic: If you added the PPA all you have to do is "sudo apt-get update" and then it will switch to whatever repo currently has the latest version.
[12:56] <theadmin> lustic: After that, just "sudo apt-get install" like you normally do.
[12:57] <argoneus> hello
[12:57] <lustic> hmm, appears the default nor the daily builds work then....
[12:57] <argoneus> I accidentally set a+rwx on my entire home directory recursively
[12:57] <argoneus> is there any way to revert it?
[12:57] <EriC^^> argoneus: chmod -R 770 /home/<user>
[12:57] <EriC^^> argoneus: it won't revert it, but it'll set the perms to that
[12:58] <argoneus> aw
[12:58] <argoneus> okay, thanks
[12:58] <theadmin> argoneus: No way to revert, but you should be able to switch to default-ish permission via chmod -R 660 $HOME
[12:58] <sfasdfsdfas> im trying to rsync folder between hosts in lan but its dialup speed which might be my landlords firewall. how do i rsync through net instead of lan
[12:58] <theadmin> Or, yeah, 770 might be better
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> sfasdfsdfas: network routing
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> sfasdfsdfas: check if the route to the host is over eth0 or ppp0
[12:59] <sfasdfsdfas> wireless
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> sfasdfsdfas: then wlan0.....you get the idea
[13:00] <Mez> So, does anyone have a suggestion for linux centralised auth that isn't LDAP, and doesn't mess about with policykit
[13:02] <MatteusBlanc> Mes Kerberos
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> Mez: NIS maybe....
[13:02] <MatteusBlanc> auth = authentication of course, not authorisation
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> Mez: http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/NIS.html
[13:03] <Mez> I've had a look into NIS, but, it doesn't seem to fit the bill.
[13:04] <Mez> as it seems to not like to work with policykit at all
[13:04] <sfasdfsdfas> so what exactly are you suggesting ActionParsnip i checked tables and everything looks fine
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> sfasdfsdfas: if the network route to the remote system is over the wireless then it will be used.
[13:05] <sfasdfsdfas> and transfer is 50kbps which is the problem
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> sfasdfsdfas: what speed connection does the destination have?
[13:06] <sfasdfsdfas> alot more
[13:08] <grimlock_> thesilentoftrusty
[13:09] <sfasdfsdfas> this is getting confusingu
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> sfasdfsdfas: is the route to the system via wlan0?
[13:20] <sfasdfsdfas> yes
[13:22] <sfasdfsdfas> same lan
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> sfasdfsdfas: ah, weird. tried rebooting the router?
[13:25] <sfasdfsdfas> that solved all my problems !
[13:25] <sfasdfsdfas> thank you
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> first thing i would have gone for. just because you have a dedicated bit of kit doesnt mean its perfect; Its a computer like the one you are using
[13:33] <hkeide_> I'm trying to log in as root on Ubuntu 14.10 on Google Compute Engine over SSH, but I get the message 'Please login as the user "ubuntu" rather than the user "root"'. Is there any way I can enable logging in to the root user via SSH?
[13:33] <bekks> !root | hkeide_
[13:34] <hkeide_> I've tried setting the root password, that didn't have any effect
[13:34] <hkeide_> (like detailed at that link)
[13:34] <bekks> hkeide_: Because sshd still refuses root logins for good reasons.
[13:34] <bekks> hkeide_:Login as user, then use sudo.
[13:35] <hkeide_> all my deployment scripts assume that I can log in as root. Using sudo remotely in an automated fashion requires me to rewrite a lot of code
[13:35] <hkeide_> and it either forces me to do the same for other distros which don
[13:35] <teward> hkeide_: there's security risks in allowing root logon remotely - that's why it's disabled by default...
[13:35] <hkeide_> 't have this idea, or special case for Ubuntu
[13:36] <hkeide_> teward: I disagree
[13:36] <hkeide_> logging in as a user that has passwordless sudo is exactly the same security wise
[13:36] <bekks> hkeide_: which doesnt mean you are right - ssh root logins are disabled for security reasons on ubuntu.
[13:36] <bekks> And passwordless sudo is not the default in Ubuntu, either.
[13:36] <hkeide_> I only enable key based auth anyway, makes no difference that I have to say a magic incantation when logging in.
[13:36] <teward> hkeide_: there is no 'passwordless sudo' in Ubuntu unless you have special configuration in sudoers
[13:37] <hkeide_> bekks: it is on Google Compute Engine
[13:37] <bekks> hkeide_: So you're not on Ubuntu, then?
[13:37] <hkeide_> is there a better place to get support on GCE? The GCE site says to use the regular Ubuntu support channels
[13:38] <teward> hkeide_: a quick google would have helped you to answer "how to enable root remote login" and http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18395622/remote-login-as-root-in-ubuntu is the first one i see
[13:38] <teward> hkeide_: but http://askubuntu.com/questions/16178/why-is-it-bad-to-login-as-root and http://serverfault.com/questions/57962/whats-wrong-with-always-being-root are very good reads
[13:38] <BluesKaj> aliases and sudoer no pwd entries work for me
[13:38] <hkeide_> teward: a quick read of my messages would tell you I have already tried that
[13:38] <teward> (and related to why we said it's a security risk to run as root all the time)
[13:39] <BluesKaj> aliases in /.bashrc
[13:39] <teward> hkeide_: correction: i joined AFTER those messages - scrollback on my client is horrid :P
[13:39] <oliverp> I would like to save the output of my terminal/console window in a PDF file or similar, so I can sent a copy of all the output to a friend. The output contains colored text. Is that possible somehow?
[13:39] <hkeide_> teward: sucks to be you
[13:39] <teward> hkeide_: i take offense at that, with an attitude like that a lot of users won't want to help you
[13:40] <hkeide_> teward: you have already shown that you don't want to help me
[13:40] <BluesKaj> teward, drop the  attitude please
[13:40] <bekks> hkeide_: watch your language
[13:40] <hkeide_> bekks: sorry, just getting frustrated here, just being told I'm wrong for asking a simple question, same thing over and over
[13:40] <BluesKaj> sorry teward, wrong guy
[13:40] <zeno_> ohhhhh
[13:41] <zeno_> dang
[13:41] <bekks> hkeide_: You dont want to hear the answers. There were plenty of them, with all needed information.
[13:41] <zeno_> #bekks muah
[13:41] <hkeide_> whatever, this was a dry hole, thanks guys, stick to your guns, and keep the internet secure!
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: do you have an issue with Ubuntu dude?
[13:51] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, how do you mean?
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: from what you said earlier, I picked up you were having a password issue?
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: could have read it wrong...
[13:53] <MadHatter42> A potential security vulnerability has been identified with HP Operations Manager for UNIX. The vulnerability can be exploited remotely to execute arbitrary code. How To Fix Upgrade to HP Operations Manager for Unix v9.11.120 (server and Java UI patches), v9.20.300 (server patches) or later.
[13:53] <BluesKaj> not me ActionParsnip..was commenting about using aliases in/.bashrc and no pwd in the sudoers file to avoid pwds and long cli commands
[13:53] <MadHatter42> I've been getting these on my ubuntu server
[13:54] <MadHatter42> is anyone familiar with that
[13:54] <MadHatter42> ?
[13:54] <ikonia> talk to HP
[13:54] <bekks> MadHatter42: So contact HP support, they have fixes for that.
[13:54] <ikonia> these tools are a regular alert
[13:54] <MadHatter42> they're dell servers
[13:54] <ikonia> yes, talk to HP
[13:54] <ikonia> they supply the agnet
[13:54] <bekks> MadHatter42: Then why do you have HPOM installed? :)
[13:54] <MadHatter42> well I dont, thats the funny part
[13:54] <hkeide_> MadHatter42: yeah why?
[13:55] <MadHatter42> in my dpkg --list i dont have anything like that
[13:55] <ikonia> MadHatter42: what process is generating that warning
[13:55] <bekks> MadHatter42: Well, obviously you have, since you wont get those messages otherwise.
[13:55] <MadHatter42> my vulnerability scanner
[13:55] <MadHatter42> retina
[13:55] <vuash> #asana
[13:55] <bekks> MadHatter42: Those software is not installed by regular .deb files.
[13:55] <ikonia> MadHatter42: then it's looking at whatever is listening on the same port
[13:56] <ikonia> MadHatter42: if you are runnjing a scanner you should have a basic idea of how to use it / manage the software
[13:56] <ikonia> otherwise its worthless
[13:56] <MadHatter42> ikonia, did that , nothing fancy just squid, apache, ssh opened
[13:56] <ikonia> MadHatter42: no. thats not what I said
[13:56] <ikonia> I didn't ask what's open
[13:57] <ikonia> it sounds like running retina is a waste of time for you
[13:57] <MadHatter42> ikonia, i went through my packages
[13:57] <ikonia> I'm not asking what packages are installed
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: nm then, read it wrong :)
[13:57] <MadHatter42> ikonia, i'm aware of the whole process
[13:58] <bekks> MadHatter42: Oh, you proved you arent.
[13:58] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, np :)
[13:58] <ikonia> MadHatter42: then why are you asking what to do, and don't appear to understand the output
[13:58] <MadHatter42> the fact that i dint figure it out
[13:58] <ikonia> figure it out ?
[13:58] <igno818> question // Trying to tar apache open office and it is just freezing any suggestions?
[13:58] <MadHatter42> i'm asking here
[13:59] <ikonia> MadHatter42: you're asking how to use retina/security processes
[13:59] <ikonia> yet you are stating you already knowo
[13:59] <ikonia> know
[13:59] <MadHatter42> ikonia, could you please calm down
[13:59] <ikonia> I am calm
[14:00] <igno818> hello
[14:00] <MadHatter42> i have several servers, many of them dells running ubuntu servers and doing my vulnerability scan (as we are a PCI-DSS compliant environment) i got this new vulnerabilie
[14:00] <igno818> Any reason why installing apache would freeze after tar in terminal?
[14:00] <Osenpai> hi guys, is very slow to install openstack by canonical repo?
[14:00] <MadHatter42> that i dont understand where it came from as i didnt install HPOM
[14:01] <igno818> sudo tar -x Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.1_Linux_x86-64_install-rpm_en-US.tar.gz this is correct right>
[14:01] <Pici> igno818: no... but what are you trying to do?
[14:01] <ikonia> MadHatter42 because it's a crap scanner thats either not been configured or is just responding to a certain port/signature
[14:01] <MadHatter42> ikonia, bekks
[14:01] <ikonia> MadHatter42: what ?
[14:02] <MadHatter42> thats not quite of a crappy scanner
[14:02] <ikonia> MadHatter42: I'm not being rude - but if you are doing pci complience scans you should have an idea how to use the tool and manage the output
[14:02] <Pici> igno818: please keep it in the channel.
[14:02] <igno818>  ok
[14:02] <MadHatter42> thats why am I asking here
[14:02] <igno818>  I downloaded apache open office for Linux and ran that command and now it's just frozen
[14:02] <ikonia> this is not where you learn how to do pci complience
[14:02] <MadHatter42> i cant find anything related to HP OM
[14:02] <ikonia> yes, because you don't understand the tool
[14:03] <Pici> igno818: That looks like an archive for a Redhat installation.
[14:03] <MadHatter42> the tool has a list and does some checks
[14:03] <ikonia> it's either doing a sig check, or checking what's listening on the port and assuming it's HP
[14:03] <ikonia> MadHatter42: it's a more complex tool than that
[14:03] <ikonia> certainly to get worthwhile output
[14:03] <igno818> Ah, you know of a program better than libre office
[14:03] <Pici> igno818: Libreoffice (which is a fork of OpenOffice) is in the Ubuntu package repositories.
[14:04] <igno818> Yeah I have that
[14:04] <MadHatter42> ikonia, i know how it works thats why before asking i went through my packages AND listening ports
[14:04] <MadHatter42> and unless its a false positive
[14:04] <ciurkut> hiho guys i have weird problem... my date/time settings got messed up somehow... i didnt do anything with those and now i have internal errors every now and then... + i cant enter date/time settings cause it causes internal error too... i guess some timezones are missing in /usr/share/zoneinfo too (no utc)
[14:04] <ikonia> you don't seem to know how it works
[14:04] <igno818> Thank you for the reference and help Pici, I guess I will just run excel on my vm for right now :D
[14:04] <igno818> trying to edit a csv for a db import
[14:04] <ikonia> you appear to be asking in ##linux #debian #ubuntu and being told the same thing and parroting it in each channel
[14:05] <MadHatter42> because i've been working for this for two days
[14:05] <ikonia> right - and you don't get it
[14:05] <MadHatter42> and i'm getting frustrated
[14:05] <MadHatter42> i havent install anything of those products
[14:05] <ikonia> I know this
[14:05] <Pici> igno818: If you still want to use OpenOffice for some reason, make sure you download the DEB file from them.  Then just tar -xzvf Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.1_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz
[14:05] <MadHatter42> and i've configured it correctly
[14:05] <ikonia> and I've told you 2 base reason why it could be reporting that
[14:05] <ikonia> thats 2 base reasons without actually doing any checks
[14:05] <ikonia> there are others
[14:05] <bekks> MadHatter42: The message you get clearly states to update HPOM. Get the HPOM documents, see how and where it is installed, and doublecheck on your system.
[14:06] <bekks> MadHatter42: Asking the same things over and over again will not change the answers.
[14:07] <MadHatter42> but i checked , i can even pastebin my netstat -tulpn and dpkg --list
[14:07] <MadHatter42> still nothing hp related
[14:07] <ikonia> that does not mean anything
[14:07] <oku8> hello everybody
[14:07] <ikonia> I've just said - forget the package list
[14:07] <zwooll_> hi
[14:07] <ikonia> yet you keep forcusing on it
[14:07] <MadHatter42> ikonia, ok, what do you suggest ?
[14:07] <ikonia> things get installed from outside package managers,
[14:07] <ikonia> MadHatter42: it's a pointless discussion - you don't get it
[14:08] <ikonia> MadHatter42: I Suggest getting a professional in to give you an overview/lessons and tie it into your complience process
[14:08] <MadHatter42> i've been managing those servers since the installation hardening and through pci process
[14:08] <ikonia> then why don't you understand this ?
[14:08] <ikonia> this is not an ubuntu problem
[14:08] <ikonia> I suggest you take it to your security team
[14:08] <bekks> MadHatter42: Did you read what I wrote?
[14:09] <oku8> sorry to bother, I'm going to install Lubuntu for a friend who has many different operative systems running on the same network. How do you suggest that I set up Lubuntu's network to be able to communicate with Apple and Linux and possibly Windows too?
[14:09] <MadHatter42> bekks, yes and i'm reviewing those
[14:10] <bekks> MadHatter42: Yeah, and thats the way to go. It is pointless to insist that software is always installed using package managers.
[14:10] <MadHatter42> ikonia, you're right
[14:10] <oku8> I'm using it right now and the file manager doesn't feature a network element
[14:10] <MadHatter42> in THIS server it is (except openssl that i compile it myself )
[14:11] <MadHatter42> my first  thought was that it might be a driver
[14:11] <BluesKaj> oku8, does the file manager show any other linux machines in network?
[14:11] <MadHatter42> thats why asked here
[14:11] <MadHatter42> anyway
[14:11] <MadHatter42> i found it
[14:12] <MadHatter42> ikonia, bekks its a fucking driver
[14:12] <MadHatter42> [15:10:32] Shpendi Lala: /lib/modules/3.5.0-26-generic/kernel/drivers/net/ethernet/3com/
[14:12] <pbx> how can i make backlight auto-adjust when i plug in AC?
[14:12] <MadHatter42>  /lib/modules/3.5.0-26-generic/kernel/drivers/net/ethernet/3com/
[14:12] <oku8> BluesKaj: thanks for answering, I currently don't have any other linux system in my network so I can't really tell :\
[14:12] <bekks> MadHatter42: Whatch your language.
[14:12] <MadHatter42> sorry, just frustrated
[14:12] <BluesKaj> oku8, ok
[14:12] <bekks> MadHatter42: and the 3com ethernet driver does NOT behave like HPOM.
[14:12] <bekks> you are on the totally wrong track.
[14:13] <oku8> BluesKaj: I only have a Windows computer on my network, which is on and even sharing some folders but I don't know if my Lubuntu 14.10 has Samba installed..
[14:13] <oku8> I don't think so though
[14:14] <MadHatter42> bekks, its one of the drivers, isnt related to HPOM
[14:14] <MadHatter42> its a hp though
[14:14] <MadHatter42> non prop driver
[14:14] <bekks> MadHatter42: The error message IS related to HPOM, since HPOM uses Java, OpenSSL, etc.
[14:14] <bekks> MadHatter42: The 3COM ethernet module is NOT your problem.
[14:15] <omar_> Hola
[14:15] <oku8> oh I actually found a Network option in the menu items, under "Go"
[14:15] <bekks> MadHatter42: And, the 3COM module doesnt open any ports, as well.
[14:15] <oku8> smb is working :)
[14:16] <ro> hi
[14:16] <ro> any one online
[14:16] <oku8> absolutely yes
[14:16] <ro> r   u from where
[14:16] <bekks> ro: According to "/names", several hundreds of people.
[14:17] <bekks> ro: Do you have a Ubuntu support question?
[14:17] <ro> yes
[14:17] <oku8> shoot
[14:17] <ro> ? shoot
[14:18] <ObrienDave> !ask
[14:19] <oku8> ro, it's about the time to ask us :)
[14:19] <oku8> ...
[14:19] <ObrienDave> poofer lol
[14:20] <bekks> A hacker. Uh uh.
[14:20] <ararob> so uh
[14:20] <oku8> isn't poofer a very bad insult?
[14:20] <ararob> is there some counter for how many ubuntu users there are globally?
[14:20] <ObrienDave> as in *poof*, he's gone ;p
[14:20] <bekks> ararob: No.
[14:21] <ararob> bekks: no estimation either?
[14:21] <ararob> I'd wager there's atleast a million
[14:21] <oku8> ararob I'm sure some statistics are generated
[14:21] <bekks> ararob: "a lot".
[14:22] <pbx> ararob, did you try the google? here's the first hit, with some good info on why it's a tough question. http://askubuntu.com/questions/80379/how-many-ubuntu-users-are-there-worldwide
[14:22] <clarient_> hi, guys. Any channel on Raspberry Pi recommend?
[14:22] <oku8> ararob there certainly is someone interested in this kind of statistics, it's just a matter of understanding whether they are publicly available
[14:23] <ararob> pbx:yeah, i was just skimming thru it
[14:23] <pbx> clarient_, first google hit for raspberry pi irc: http://www.raspbian.org/RaspbianIRC
[14:23] <ararob> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/05/mark-shuttleworth-delivers-uds-keynote-address-sets-goal-for-200-million-ubuntu-users-in-4-years/
[14:23] <oku8> is publicly a word btw? XD
[14:23] <clarient_> pbx, thanks
[14:23] <ararob> 200 mil is not bad
[14:23] <ararob> if it happens
[14:24] <oku8> ararob I'm pretty sure they will largely increase in the next years
[14:24] <ararob> i've been away from the linux scene for a while, about 5 years, and i gotta say things are much better now
[14:25] <oku8> things changed a lot, I agree
[14:25] <ararob> specially open source gfx, i have a shitty intel graphics card, i can pretty much run any old game on it with wine, no probs
[14:25] <oku8> absolutely
[14:26] <oku8> I've seen any sort of heavy graphic games running on Linux anyway
[14:26] <Charcoalcat> Hi, I was trying to follow a guide to get my graphics drivers to work properly again, and it had me purge nvidia and then remove my xorg.conf. After rebooting, Ubuntu starts up by just showing the desktop and nothing else. What do I do?
[14:26] <BluesKaj> oku8, did you install samba for windows access and ssh for other linux machines on your network?
[14:27] <ro> any  indian
[14:27] <Charcoalcat> I can't link to the guide I used because I have no idea how to get back to it or copy the url, since I'm using irssi in the tty.
[14:28] <oku8> BluesKaj: there will be 3 computers running at the same time on the network, two of which running Ubuntu based distros, and one Mac. Do you think I'm going to need it? From time to time a Windows user may come join the network too.
[14:28] <VoidMainFunction> .230
[14:28] <ro> ?????????????
[14:28] <oku8> Charcoalcat: as far as I know purging drivers is very dangerous
[14:28] <gefilda> Has anybody got an idea why i cant connect to irc.quakenet.org ?
[14:28] <oku8> ro: you have to understand you are not in your garden
[14:29] <oku8> gefilda is it up in the first place :)?
[14:29] <BluesKaj> oku8, samba can be helpful for both linux and windows
[14:29] <Charcoalcat> oku8: I've been told over and over here that it's fine to purge nvidia drivers because I have an intel card, so that's why I tried it.
[14:29] <gefilda> my freind says he´ on
[14:29] <oku8> samba I have on Ubuntu-based distros. Not sure if Mac needs it, I am a no-mac-at-all..
[14:30] <oku8> Charcoalcat: good then, I didn't know.. I broke a few systems by purging graphic drivers so I prompted
[14:31] <Artiom> hi guys ! anybody know how to activate tray icon of xchat in ubuntu 14.04 x64?
[14:31] <BluesKaj> oku8, I assume samba will connect with macs as well, but i do know ssh can
[14:31] <Charcoalcat> I don't know if the issue is from purging the nvidia drivers or from deleting the xorg.conf. I backed up xorg.conf, but I don't know how to put it back with the tty.
[14:31] <oku8> BluesKaj: thanks, anyway ssh is above my friend's expertise so I will not use it in this case..
[14:31] <camelCase> howdy
[14:31] <Charcoalcat> Someone here had me purge my nvidia drivers before, and I could still use my computer afterward.
[14:32] <oku8> Charcoalcat: I'm sorry but I am not able to help..
[14:32] <oku8> and I have to go by the way
[14:32] <Charcoalcat> oku8, okay, bye.
[14:32] <oku8> thanks everyone
[14:32] <oku8> especially to BluesKaj
[14:32] <oku8> have a nice day
[14:32] <oku8> bye bye
[14:32] <trijntje> I have an epson xp-600 wifi printer/scanner, but I have no idea how to activate the scanner from ubuntu, xsane just says "No device found". What should I do?
[14:33] <BluesKaj> oku8, there are several good tutorials on the 'net about using ss. I suggest your friend upgrade his expertise by reading the how to's ..ssh is not difficult to learn
[14:34] <clarient_> Is it possible that booting ubuntu from usb thumb drive and when boot is complete unplug the usb drive, the system still working fine?
[14:34] <BluesKaj> oops, too late
[14:34] <clarient_> Just using the RAM
[14:35] <MatteusBlanc> Clarient - yes
[14:35] <clarient_> The RAM is large enough
[14:35] <BluesKaj> clarient_, only if you update grub on the existing system
[14:35] <clarient_> How to achieve that?
[14:36] <Quatroking> if it wasn't for windows supporting so much more games, plus adobe products and other stuff, I'd totally be using ubuntu on my main desktop
[14:36] <MatteusBlanc> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootToRAM
[14:36] <Quatroking> I keep wanting to press f12 and pull up guake terminal :s
[14:38] <clarient_> The system working without hard disk, usb disk, and doesn't boot from network. This sounds cool
[14:38] <BluesKaj> clarient_, in the terminal on the live usb, sudo grub-install /dev/sdX ..X being the drive letter for the OS
[14:39] <BluesKaj> clarient_, then sudo update-grub
[14:39] <Charcoalcat> By the way, something else that's happening: when I press alt+right/left in the terminal, sometimes it will jump to the desktop. I don't know if that's related, but it doesn't seem good. (even when I try to go over to tty tabs(?) I know exist)
[14:39] <clarient_> BluesKaj,  okay, let me try it
[14:39] <trijntje> BluesKaj: how will that make the system run in RAM? Are you sure you understand what clarient_ wants?
[14:40] <trijntje> clarient_: wait up, that could mess up your existing system
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> Quatroking: guake is awesome
[14:40] <Charcoalcat> By the way, how can you log out of ubuntu from the terminal?
[14:40] <Quatroking> ActionParsnip, I know right
[14:41] <EriC^^> Charcoalcat: sudo service lightdm restart
[14:41] <BluesKaj> trijntje, well that's my interpretation, since you think different then maybe you could suggest an alternative method
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> Quatroking: one of the things that should be deault, as well as unp
[14:41] <Quatroking> ActionParsnip, it's so much easier to use than having a seperate terminal window open at all times
[14:41] <Quatroking> I wish a windows implimentation existed but with putty/powershell
[14:41] <MatteusBlanc> Charcoalcat - shutdown -h now
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> Quatroking: well, Server core has a cmd interface :)
[14:42] <clarient_> trijntje, I think he doesn't know what I'm mean.
[14:42] <Charcoalcat> EriC^^: Thanks!
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> Quatroking: http://www.instructables.com/id/%22Drop-Down%22%2c-Quake-style-command-prompt-for-Window/
[14:42] <trijntje> BluesKaj: I dont know how to run ubuntu only in ram from an usb stick, but how will modifying the grub installed on the harddisk help?
[14:42] <Charcoalcat> ... if all of those m-names just showed up in the chat, sorry.
[14:43] <Quatroking> holy hell, ActionParsnip
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> Quatroking: I searched, I found
[14:43] <Charcoalcat> MatteusBlanc: I was looking for logging out, not shutting down.
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> Quatroking: www.duckduckgo.com
[14:43] <philip_> is it possible to configure a raid while system is running
[14:44] <trijntje> I have an epson xp-600 wifi printer/scanner, but I have no idea how to activate the scanner from ubuntu, xsane just says "No device found". What should I do?
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> philip_: if the drives and array are not in use / mounted, yes
[14:45] <clarient_> BlueKaj, I mean there is no external storage(hdd, usb) on the computer
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> trijntje: I believe you will need iscan and iscan-data packages (search the web)
[14:46] <clarient_> Just boot from usb drive, and unplug it when booting is complete
[14:46] <clarient_> And the system still working fine with RAM
[14:46] <clarient_> Does anyone know how to achieve that?
[14:46] <Charcoalcat> Okay, when I sign into Gnome Classic, I can see panels. Why is the problem only affecting Unity?
[14:46] <clarient_> This is cool, isn't it?
[14:48] <clarient_> When restarting the system data will be lost, and it doesn't matter.
[14:48] <BluesKaj> trijntje, one can chroot like so: http://pastebin.com/8wkwjRGa
[14:48] <BluesKaj> clarient_, ^
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> clarient_: looks like you will need to tweak the ISO a bit
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> Charcoalcat: gnome classic doesnt use Compiz :)
[14:51] <Charcoalcat> Actually, I don't have window decorations in Gnome Classic, so it's not working completely.
[14:51] <Charcoalcat> ActionParsnip, thanks! That makes sense.
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> Charcoalcat: compiz is a joke imho
[14:52] <clarient_> I don't know how to config it.
[14:52] <Charcoalcat> ActionParsnip: Compiz is terrible, but what else is there?
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> Charcoalcat: ps -ef | egrep -i 'compiz|mutter|kwin|xfwin|openbox|fluxbox'     should show the running WM :)
[14:52] <BluesKaj> Charcoalcat, KDE and Kwin :)
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> Charcoalcat: mutter, kwin, xfwm4, openbox, fluxbox, twm, flwm
[14:53] <trijntje> BluesKaj: thats not what clarient_ wants at all
[14:54] <trijntje> clarient_: do you really want to use ubuntu? Ik now some of the smaller linux distro's like puppy or damn small linux have the ability to boot to ram built in by default
[14:54] <Charcoalcat> ActionParsnip: It says compiz.
[14:54] <Charcoalcat> ActionParsnip: I'll try some of those!
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> Charcoalcat: then you are running compiz
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> Charcoalcat: if you press ALT+F2 and run:    mutter --replace    it should start
[14:55] <iliv> how do I install full version of vim on 14.04 LTS minimal installation?
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> !info vim-full
[14:55] <clarient_> trijntje, no, what distro doesn't matter
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> hmm
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> !find vim
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> iliv: sudo apt-get install vim
[14:56] <iliv> ActionParsnip, E: Package 'vim' has no installation candidate
[14:56] <Charcoalcat> ActionParsnip: Window manager error: Unable to open X display
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> !info vim
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> iliv: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install vim
[14:56] <iliv> same error
[14:56] <iliv> so weird
[14:57] <iliv> ActionParsnip, I have vim-tiny, but not vim
[14:58] <rberg_> iliv have you run apt-get update recently?
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> iliv: did the apt-get update    run without error?
[14:58] <iliv> rberg_, ActionParsnip yes to both questions
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> iliv: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue
[14:59] <iliv> apt-cache search shows only vim-common and vim-tiny. Both are installed.
[14:59] <iliv> Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[14:59] <Charcoalcat> Okay, I finally found the guide I used. http://askubuntu.com/questions/86465/switch-from-nvidia-to-internal-intel-hd-graphics-opengl-does-not-work
[14:59] <Charcoalcat> (the accepted answer)
[14:59] <BluesKaj> clarient_, do you have ubuntu installed on the HDD or are you just trying to run ubuntu from the usb stick?
[15:00] <trijntje> ActionParsnip: I cant install iscan from the epson website since it depends on libtiff4 and ubuntu only has libtiff5
[15:00] <Charcoalcat> So after following the instructions there and rebooting, Unity doesn't work.
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> !info vim trusty
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> iliv: check /etc/apt/sources.list to be sure that the main repo is enabled.
[15:02] <Charcoalcat> Okay, I put xorg.conf back. I'll see if that works.
[15:03] <clarient_> BluesKaj, I install it on HDD well. what I want now it that booting ubuntu to RAM
[15:03] <trijntje> clarient_: download puppy linux, it has a 'to ram' option by default
[15:03] <clarient_> okay
[15:04] <trijntje> clarient_: http://puppylinux.org/wikka/BootParametersPuppy
[15:04] <trijntje> I'm running lubuntu 14.04 and I want to use my epson scanner/printer to scan, but xsane doesnt see it. How can I tell xsane where to look?
[15:05] <Charcoalcat> Nope, xorg.conf does nothing different.
[15:05] <BluesKaj> clarient_,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootToRAM
[15:06] <clarient_> BluesKaj, okay
[15:06] <hkeide_> If anyone has the same problem as me with logging in as root on Google Compute Engine, you have to replace "PermitRootLogin without-password" with "PermitRootLogin yes" in /etc/ssh/sshd_config and then clear the /root/.ssh/authorized_keys file. I made this into a startup script than can be found at http://paste.ubuntu.com/9490185/
[15:08] <BluesKaj> clarient_, I have one question ...why?
[15:08] <blackangelpr> Anyone had their speakers sounds like they are broken after some updates in Ubuntu 14.04?
[15:08] <dastan> bro, does anyone knows what best mail client application to work with microsoft exchange server 2010? i was try with thunderbird with devmail together, its succeed when access but error when sending message...
[15:08] <clarient_> BluesKaj, Just for fun.
[15:09] <bekks> hkeide_: root login without password is one of the worst ideas ever. Please do not advice people to actually use that.
[15:09] <BluesKaj> clarient_, hmm, ok
[15:09] <hkeide_> blackangelpr: try adjusting the volume using alsamixer. Used to work back when I used Ubuntu on desktop
[15:09] <bekks> hkeide_: Better use public key auth instead.
[15:10] <hkeide_> bekks: of course I'm using public key auth
[15:10] <bekks> hkeide_: Then you do not need without-password at all.
[15:10] <hkeide_> bekks: without-password?
[15:10] <bekks> That actually allows root login WITHOUT any password and WITHOUT any public key.
[15:11] <bekks> hkeide_: Correct.
[15:12] <hkeide_> bekks: that is wrong. I replace "without-password" with "yes"
[15:12] <trijntje> I'm running lubuntu 14.04 and I want to use my epson scanner/printer to scan, but xsane doesnt see it. How can I tell xsane where to look?
[15:12] <bekks> hkeide_: So unset the root password now :)
[15:12] <blackangelpr> hkeide_, helps a lot but my bass is not detected now i read pulse audio got update and everything they do that they screw my sound :( on the g73jh-a1
[15:12] <hkeide_> bekks: I don't have a root password
[15:12] <Charcoalcat> I reinstalled nvidia-current and my broken Unity is back!
[15:13] <hkeide_> blackangelpr: It's Linux, I gave up sound on Linux years ago :(
[15:13] <dastan> bro, does anyone knows what best mail client application to work with microsoft exchange server 2010? i was try with thunderbird with devmail together, its succeed when access but error when sending message...
[15:13] <bekks> hkeide_: How do you login then with no password, just a pub key and a cleared authorized_keys file?
[15:13] <Charcoalcat> !patience | trijntje
[15:13] <hkeide_> bekks: this is GCE, they handle SSH auth keys for you automatically.
[15:14] <blackangelpr> hkeide_, XD  will try to save all my config files for the next time ... thanks any way :P
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> dastan: ive head evolution can do it
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> dastan: i just use OWA, lots easier
[15:17] <dastan> oh ActionParsnip, could you tell like link tutorial to do it brother? thx in advance...
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> dastan: http://www.petenetlive.com/KB/Article/0000378.htm
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> dastan: all I did was search the web, just like you can.......
[15:17] <dastan> ok, thx... il try first...
[15:18] <dastan> :) thx ActionParsnip
[15:18] <hkeide_> bekks: anyway, if you have any more questions, I'm here. Just giving my advice to people with the same problem...
[15:19] <iliv> ActionParsnip, rberg_ yeah, that was it. Missing main repository. By the way, what is exactly trusty-updates (as compared to just trusty)?
[15:19] <rberg_> that seems really odd to me as vim-tiny is also in main
[15:21] <marsjk> I suddenly get a popup "Authentication is required to change your own user data" when unlocking my screen (Ubuntu 14.10), any ideas?
[15:21] <iliv> rberg_, I wish I had been the one who installed this OS. At least I would've known what choices were made during installation.
[15:22] <rberg_> heh, I hear that.. glad you got it, vim-tiny can be annoying when you expect vim :)
[15:22] <Scrivener> So I installed Ubuntu on a desktop, and the Super key is acting very very strange. It will not properly detect hits/long presses, and very often when hit will be interpreted as a long press which will not be released until you hit the super key several more times or it decides to stop acting that way.
[15:22] <Scrivener> I tried a different keyboard, different USB ports of course.
[15:22] <Scrivener> But hitting the super key can basically completely disable one's ability to properly use this machine. This is a default Ubuntu installation with no special configuration
[15:23] <Scrivener> I've disabled keypress to access launcher/dash to kind of mitigate this issue, but it still has the issue of interpreting following keystrokes as Super + [desired key], rather than just the desired key itself.
[15:23] <Scrivener> Any ideas?
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> Scrivener: if you run:   xev   do you see the key coming unpressed again?
[15:25] <C_Clear> Howdy
[15:25] <Scrivener> ActionParsnip, are you asking if this is the behavior I observe when running xev alone and not touching anything else?
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> Scrivener: run xev, then test as you have, observe the output in the terminal
[15:26] <Scrivener> ActionParsnip, I'm running xev, unsure how to tell if a kye is becoming unpressed
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> Scrivener: press some keys that work, you'll see how xev works :)
[15:26] <Scrivener> ActionParsnip, it appears to be interpreting keypress correctly
[15:27] <Scrivener> The "state" of each keypress seems to randomly alternate between 0x0 and 0x40 though
[15:27] <Scrivener> 0x40 and 0x48 now. That might be irrelevant
[15:27] <Scrivener> Oh nvm that was alt >.>
[15:27] <Scrivener> Yeah 0x0 and 0x40
[15:28] <C_Clear> quick question my wireless adapter picks up every other router connection except my home router I normally use to connect. Any possible answer as to why ??
[15:28] <EriC^^> C_Clear: you are unlucky.
[15:28] <C_Clear> I know. Are there any technical reasons why I am unlucky ?
[15:29] <Scrivener> ActionParsnip, after leaving xev, I am having the same issue (having been pressing the super key) where all actions are interpreted as though they are being combined with the super key :(
[15:29] <EriC^^> C_Clear: does it show up in iwlist scan ? ( in the terminal )
[15:29] <Scrivener> Even though xev clearly registered keyrelease events
[15:29] <C_Clear> let me check
[15:30] <Scrivener> I had to play around with the super key several times before it would stop this behavior
[15:30] <Wacky386> is there any way to tell if the system is using nouveau or nvidia card?cause my resolution isnt going above 1280X800
[15:30] <omar_> Hola
[15:31] <Scrivener> Wacky386, at the terminal, $ lshw
[15:31] <Scrivener> And look for "display"
[15:31] <Scrivener> That's the heading it will be under
[15:31] <C_Clear> Eric^^ This was the response to iwlist scan " iwlist scan
[15:31] <C_Clear> lo        Interface doesn't support scanning."
[15:32] <EriC^^> C_Clear: try iwlist wlan0 scan
[15:33] <Scrivener> Wacky386, if you want to change drivers, though, you'll want to do something different. But lshw will tell you what kind of card you have.
[15:34] <iliv> Is the best practice to put security repositories first in the sources.list or last?
[15:34] <umib0zu> guys I need help. I am installing a fresh copy of 14.04 ubuntu and I always mess up partitioning. There's some partitioning set up I usually forget that has to do with updates where if you don't partition correctly, you can't update anymore because there won't be enough space for what I believe are kernel images. What's this called and what partition setup should I use?
[15:35] <C_Clear> So Eric^^ got this result http://pastebin.com/XiH5pY1j
[15:36] <EriC^^> umib0zu: having a separate /boot
[15:37] <umib0zu> EriC^^ I'm also seeing there's an LVM option. does this fix the issue too?
[15:37] <EriC^^> umib0zu: just make a "/" and swap if you want hibernation, need a lot of memory
[15:38] <EriC^^> C_Clear: what's your home router's essid ?
[15:38] <Scrivener> ActionParsnip, no ideas? :( this issue is one my google-fu can't seem to locate elsewhere either
[15:39] <pablopf16> !
[15:40] <C_Clear> EricC^^ I believe it shoud be "Kechner Moise"
[15:41] <EriC^^> umib0zu: having a separate /boot might fill up if you don't clean old kernels
[15:41] <umib0zu> so just make it really large?
[15:42] <EriC^^> umib0zu: or don't use a separate /boot
[15:42] <EriC^^> umib0zu: it's really not required unless you're running other distros which use common kernels
[15:42] <EriC^^> "/" is all you need really, and maybe a separate /home if you want
[15:42] <dougquaid> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 14.04 as a xen domU using the images here (http://ftp.riken.jp/Linux/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/xen/). The installer completes sucessfully, but when I try to boot the VM it says "Error: Boot loader didn't return any data" Any ideas why that might happen?
[15:43] <umib0zu> what's the difference by the way? between / and /boot? I'm guessing /boot is kernel images right?
[15:44] <EriC^^> umib0zu: boot is a dir under "/" it contains the boot loader config files and kernel and initrd
[15:45] <EriC^^> umib0zu: if you only make a "/" you'll have /boot in it, but it won't be on a separate partition so it wont get filled up unless "/" get's full
[15:46] <umib0zu> ok
[15:48] <EriC^^> C_Clear: try sudo service network-manager restart
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> Scrivener: not sure, if you log in to a slimmer DE instead of Gnome, like xfce4, is it ok there?
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> umib0zu: / is the highest folder, /boot is just one of the folders in /
[15:51] <C_Clear> Eric^^ ran that command. reconnected to the connection I am still using. "kechner moise" still not showing up. It is listed under hidden networks if thats any help to the situation
[15:54] <Spekko> awe kilos
[15:54] <Spekko> Bottie
[15:54] <backbox> :)
[15:54] <Scrivener> ActionParsnip, so we narrowed down what it's doing
[15:54] <Spekko> woah, this channel get full over the weekends
[15:54] <Scrivener> Every THIRD press is different
[15:55] <Spekko> -- Anyway, random just want some veteran/artisan's pro concerning LPI's, is the qualification/books worth it ?
[15:55] <iliv> Is the best practice to put security repositories first in the sources.list or last? :)
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> Scrivener: n xev?
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> *in xev
[15:56] <rberg_> iliv: I dont think it matters at all
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> iliv: the order of the repos in sources.list has zero bearng on anything
[15:58] <Scrivener> AceLan, yeah, in xev
[15:58] <Scrivener> And it's happening for ctrl as well as super
[15:58] <nimmersatt> hey. can anyone explain me hps linux++?
[15:58] <bynarie> hey fellas, how do i associate certain files with apps? specifically .torrent files with transmission???
[15:58] <nimmersatt> *hp's linux++
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> Scrivener: does it happen with the external keyboard too?
[15:59] <EriC^^> bynarie: right click > properties
[15:59] <bynarie> EriC^^, there is also a way to do it from command line.. do you know that command???
[16:00] <EriC^^> bynarie: sorry no idea
[16:00] <bynarie> thats ok.. thanks
[16:01] <ws2k3> how can i make a cron that runs on the 2/4/6/8/10 minet of every hour so not every 2 minets but realy on 00:02 00:04 00:06 ?
[16:01] <iliv> rberg_, ActionParsnip directly from sources.list man page: "The file lists one source per line, with the most preferred source listed first."
[16:02] <EriC^^> ws2k3: */2 * * * * <command>
[16:03] <rberg_> I would figure that mean preference for packages of the same version? I do know that security updates come in fine being at the bottom of the sources list, they get a higher package version.
[16:04] <iliv> rberg_, yeah you're probably right. It most likely means that. I'm just being curious and love to ask a lot of questions ha :P
[16:04] <rberg_> heh, I do the same
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> iliv: I don't have "pref" in any form in /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:05] <iliv> got it
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> iliv: grep -i pref /etc/apt/sources.list      no output in Precose
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> *precise
[16:06]  * ActionParsnip can't type today
[16:06] <Karis23>  High Quality photos and videos http://bit.ly/1y2SGSo
[16:07] <Scrivener> ActionParsnip, external keyboard?
[16:07] <Scrivener> This is a desktop, and we've used 2 different keyboards
[16:08] <Scrivener> We've found out through xev that the left ctrl, left alt, and super keys are all affected. Every third press is a different state.
[16:08] <Scrivener> No other keys seem to be affected.
[16:08] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, I'm running plasma 5 on kubuntu 15.04 and copy & paste is intermittent ...quite frustrating
[16:08] <BluesKaj> a known bug that is being ignored, or so it seems
[16:12] <C_Clear> exit
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: report a bug
[16:19] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, it's reported
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: or try an extra clipboard manager
[16:28] <NateSV> hello! how can I request freenode to resend me the e-mail to register my nickname?
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> NateSV: ask in #freenode
[16:28] <NateSV> thx ActionParsnip
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> np :)
[16:32] <zamba> i have two identical hard drives and i want to set up ubuntu server with raid-1.. is this something that the installer can do?
[16:33] <bekks> The Ubuntu server install can do that, using a software raid setup, yes.
[16:33] <zamba> bekks: ok, cool
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> zamba: absolutely
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> doesnt the desktop installer now allow raid config?
[16:34] <zamba> ActionParsnip: and it's an automatic process, or do i have to tweak partition settings and align cylinders and i don't know what myself?
[16:35] <vamadir> Ubuntu 14.04. Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe. OpenGL vendor string: VMware, Inc. How to change driver? opensource radeon
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> zamba: that is managed for you
[16:36] <zamba> ActionParsnip: perfect
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> vamadir: is this a VM?
[16:36] <bekks> vamadir: Install the VMware Tools.
[16:36] <vamadir> ActionParsnip No, its my laptop
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> vamadir: ok, use the additional drivers program and you can install the proprietary video drivers if the opensource ones aren't doing what you need
[16:37] <bekks> vamadir: It is a virtual machine, isnt it?
[16:38] <vamadir> bekks NO, laptop
[16:38] <bekks> vamadir: How do you manage to get "VMware" as vendor string then?
[16:38] <vamadir> ActionParsnip I need opensource radeon driver
[16:39] <vamadir> bekks just install system 14.04 on laptop
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> vamadir: the opensource driver is in a defuault install, if you run:   sudo lshw -C display    you will see the GPU and if you read closely you will see driver=
[16:40] <bekks> vamadir: Whats the output of "lspci -k | grep -A 2 VGA" please? Can you pastebin it?
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> vamadir: that will show you the open source driver in use, unless at the top it says "UNCLAIMED"
[16:41] <vamadir> 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Mullins [Radeon APU A6-6200 with R3 Graphics]
[16:41] <vamadir> 	Subsystem: Dell Device 0658
[16:41] <vamadir> 00:01.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Device 9840
[16:42] <vamadir> laptop dell with sticker UBUNTU :(
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> vamadir: stickers dont mean much
[16:42] <vamadir> bekks 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Mullins [Radeon APU A6-6200 with R3 Graphics]
[16:42] <vamadir> 	Subsystem: Dell Device 0658
[16:42] <vamadir> 00:01.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Device 9840
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> vamadir: if you run:  sudo lshw -C display | grep -i driver       what do you see?
[16:43] <vamadir> ActionParsnip PCI (sysfs)
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> vamadir: give it time....
[16:44] <vamadir> ActionParsnip: empty
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> vamadir: ok, try:   sudo lshw -C display    use http://pastie.org to host the output.
[16:51] <vamadir> ActionParsnip http://www.pastie.org/ drop connection in my country
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> vamadir: any pastebin will do
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> !paste
[16:54] <zamba> ActionParsnip: hm, i don't see where that is done.. meaning setting up raid-1
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> !raid | zamba
[16:54] <vamadir> ActionParsnip: ActionParsnip
[16:54] <zamba> ActionParsnip: is LVM part of that equation?
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> zamba: I use hardware RAID, so the OS only sees the presented file system. Easier and faster than the software RAID folks us
[16:54] <vamadir> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.ru/ttgykVZM#
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> vamadir: weird, thought the default driver would support that
[16:56] <vamadir> ActionParsnip: ??
[16:57] <vamadir> ActionParsnip: whats mean  weird?
[17:00] <vamadir> ActionParsnip: so, what i need do? I check it in 14.10, its no problem. But its not stable. So i want use 14.04
[17:00] <notmorpheus> can someone explain to me why the default file creation permissions under Ubuntu/etc. are o+r
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> vamadir: you may want to report a bug
[17:01] <notmorpheus> doesn't that mean if an attacker accesses one user's account they are going to have read perms on most files with default perms under everyone else's accounts
[17:02] <vamadir> ActionParsnip, :( too trouble
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> vamadir: you could try the newer kernel from the mainline PPA to test, may help
[17:03] <zamba> ActionParsnip: where should i put swap?
[17:03] <zamba> ActionParsnip: in the raid-1 as well?
[17:03] <zamba> ActionParsnip: or just swap off one of the drives?
[17:04] <zamba> ActionParsnip: and /boot will happily reside inside the raid?
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> zamba: i suggest you read the guides ubottu gave
[17:10] <w3rd_> folks,,, i have some ebooks that are in a proprietary format that i purchased and its only available for a specific reader,, i want to put it in pdf and use on my computer / tablet,, was hoping that ubuntu might have some options from the terminal,, anyone ever converted the .vbk file format to pdf or epub?
[17:13] <OerHeks> w3rd_, maybe print-to-pdf works, not sure about that DRM ebook
[17:13] <Wacky386> w3rd_: have you tried Calibre? it 'may' have an option for that...you should probably get a second opinion tho
[17:13] <w3rd_> yah,, it does but then it bombs out... they have a throttle on how many pages you can print to pdf
[17:14] <w3rd_> yeah,, i have read about calibre,, not sure though if the vbk format is actually supported
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> w3rd_: let me search
[17:14] <w3rd_> they really have a lock on this particular niche,,
[17:14] <w3rd_> ok
[17:14] <w3rd_> i super disappointed,, their reader is horribly slow and i can hardly use it,, scrolling a page takes forever,,, its just horrible
[17:14] <w3rd_> hence im trying to convert ASAP
[17:15] <w3rd_> but i have been digging on google and others,, and to no avail
[17:15] <w3rd_> so i resorted to IRC
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> w3rd_: if you can open it in something in Windows then print through a PDF printer you can convert it that way (one way I have found so far)
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> w3rd_: this is some DRM stuff too, could get sticky
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> w3rd_: http://klungvik.com/blog/2008/09/08/how-to-remove-drm-from-ebooks/
[17:16] <w3rd_> right,, but thats the thing that im not getting here,, i try to open in anything than their proprietary reader,,, and its garbage,, im not aware of another tool or app that can actually interpret the extension
[17:16] <w3rd_> checking it..
[17:19] <DEA7TH> I'm doing boot-repair, with my Ubuntu 14.10 as the new booting device, and it gets stuck at "Purge kernels then reinstall last kernel mapper/ubuntu-ug-root (ins)" - how do I fix it? I did multiple boot-repairs today and they all worked until this - I have no idea what caused it, possibly the Windows repair tools I used.
[17:20] <parmiggiano> w3rd_: does the proprietary reader provide some option to print the book? if so, perhaps you could use a virtual printer and print it to a file (PS or PDF)
[17:21] <DEA7TH> This is some info about my system: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9491685
[17:21] <bekks> DEA7TH: How much space do you have left on /boot ?
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> DEA7TH: I cant see Ubuntu on the system, just Suse
[17:23] <DEA7TH> bekks: I don't know. I haven't touched it recently
[17:23] <DEA7TH> I'll try to fix it without purging the kernel now and go back if it doesn't work
[17:24] <DEA7TH> ActionParsnip: Yeah, I don't know why it doesn't show it. Looks like a bad sign to me. But it is there - on sdb
[17:24] <DEA7TH> ah - I have 222 out of 243 MB unused space on boot
[17:25] <squinty> w3rd_:  no mention of vbk on the calibre site but there is this from the mobilereads site     http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=247450
[17:30] <DEA7TH> Nevermind - I could fix everything on my own.
[17:33] <agent_white> Good mornin!
[17:34] <flexus> evening
[17:35] <w3rd_> parmiggiano: the proprietary readers allows you to print a certain range of pages at a time, and I was attempting to print to pdf however,, after some time the option to print begin to error out,,,
[17:36] <w3rd_> i think they throttle the total amount of printing requests that you can make
[17:36] <w3rd_> hence,, i cant print to pdf any more,, so i decided to attempt to convert the files manually
[17:36] <w3rd_> and im not sure if that is something that can be done or not
[17:38] <parmiggiano> w3rd_: what a terrible format. i don't think anyone has made the effort to come up with a free conversion tool
[17:38] <w3rd_> yah
[17:38] <w3rd_> i know,,,
[17:38] <w3rd_> its the worst,,, they have locked everyone in
[17:38] <w3rd_> and the reader is the most ridicules thing i have ever used
[17:38] <w3rd_> SLOWER than anything i have used in the past
[17:38] <w3rd_> can hardly scroll
[17:39] <w3rd_> im border line about to buy the books in hardback
[17:39] <zamba> i have a couple of raids.. how do i assemble them?
[17:39] <w3rd_> or something to that extent,, which is a LOT of dough
[17:39] <zamba> # mdadm --detail --scan
[17:39] <zamba> ARRAY /dev/md/tahiti:1 metadata=1.2 name=tahiti:1 UUID=2b83950d:230a6116:4f7c0c78:b04e67a7
[17:39] <zamba> ARRAY /dev/md/tahiti:0 metadata=1.2 name=tahiti:0 UUID=80337932:3cb60974:45b8605e:7484f1ac
[17:39] <zamba> ARRAY /dev/md/0 metadata=1.2 name=tahiti:0 UUID=094e306f:9639f0d1:824275bd:4b7629fa
[17:39] <zamba> sorry for pasting
[17:39] <zamba> that /dev/md/0 raid is already mounted, afaik
[17:39] <zamba> as this is the /
[17:47] <kokut> Anyone knows how reliable is tcptrack? my internet is going extremely slow and it doesn't show much bandwith usage tbh
[17:48] <kokut> also, i have 30mb connection and it was working ok in the morning
[17:50] <agent_white> kokut: Not sure. But have you done traceroute or anything to see where the congestion is?
[17:51] <kokut> agent_white: im gonna try that
[17:52] <kokut> agent_white: looks like it's my ISP
[17:53] <kokut> agent_white: or a node after my isp
[17:53] <agent_white> kokut: I know it's cliche, but have you tried restarting your router?
[17:54] <kokut> agent_white: i should try that
[17:55] <agent_white> kokut: Also, I spaced, use mtr (matt's trace route) instead of just traceroute cuz it's naiz.
[17:56] <kokut> agent_white: it looks like it fixed itself now
[17:56] <agent_white> :)
[18:07] <someone235> Today, When I've tried to browse pages with flash, I got this message "firefox has prevented the outdated plugin adobe flash from running". I've checked here: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/plugincheck/ , and saw that the plugin is up to date. Someone knows how to fix this?
[18:08] <wad> cat /etc/resolv.conf          # <---------- that used to show my DNS ip address, but it no longer does. How do I find it now-a-days?
[18:09]  * wad looks around hopefully
[18:10] <Chuck_Norris> someone235: sudo apt-get install pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[18:11] <Chuck_Norris> someone235: then:  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nilarimogard/webupd8 ; sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install freshplayerplugin
[18:12] <someone235> Chuck_Norris, "Pepper Flash Player can currently only be used with Chromium (and with Chrome). " -- https://wiki.debian.org/PepperFlashPlayer
[18:12] <bubbasaures> someone235, You have to add it to FF.
[18:13] <Chuck_Norris> someone235: the ppa i just gave you will install a wrapper that will allow you to use pepper flash in firefox
[18:15] <Chuck_Norris> someone235: just copy and paste, then restart firefox and open a flash video o webapp
[18:16] <bubbasaures> You did have to add pepper to FF, http://www.webupd8.org/2014/05/install-fresh-player-plugin-in-ubuntu.html
[18:16] <bubbasaures> might be auto now I don't use peppr
[18:16] <Chuck_Norris> it is auto
[18:16] <bubbasaures> cool
[18:17] <canaima_> sarai_
[18:17] <zamba> how do i write fstab entries based on uuid?
[18:17] <bubbasaures> zamba, UUID Is used what is the end goal?
[18:18] <bubbasaures> fstab has many options we need to narrow yours down
[18:19] <cursera> looking for a sofware to run on server that organize tasks for multiusers. once they complete a task sucessfull they alow  to move next task or  when they complete several tasks they alow to start another task
[18:20] <pbx> cursera, sounds more like a stackexchange questions than an #ubuntu question
[18:21] <bekks> cursera: Tasks in the manner of "things the user has to do like an exercise" or more like "some processes which can be automated and shozuld be executed after each other"?
[18:21] <pbx> cursera, e.g. http://webapps.stackexchange.com/'
[18:21] <cursera> ok ill take a look
[18:21] <zamba> bubbasaures: i'm adding a new entry that has manually been mounted
[18:21] <erikk> My firefox just started complaining about having an outdated flash plugin. What should I do? I just updated firefox per the software updater. Clicking on the link to see if my flash plugin is outdated only says that my plugin is up to date.
[18:23] <zamba> bekks: blkid was the answer
[18:23] <zamba> bekks --> bubbasaures
[18:23] <bubbasaures> zamba, sudo blkid shows the uuid yeah.
[18:23] <Chuck_Norris> erikk: sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-* ; sudo apt-get install pepperflashplugin-nonfree ; sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nilarimogard/webupd8 ; sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install freshplayerplugin
[18:24] <Nariz> How can I upgrade these: firefox firefox-globalmenu firefox-locale-en
[18:24] <erikk> Chuck_Norris: Thank you! :)
[18:25] <Chuck_Norris> erikk: here is better for copy and paste:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/9492325/
[18:25] <theadmin> Chuck_Norris: Pepper flash doesn't work with FF I think
[18:25] <bekks> Nariz: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get distupgrade; Updates will be installed if they exist.
[18:25] <bubbasaures> it does just has it;s own isasues
[18:25] <Chuck_Norris> theadmin: yes it is work
[18:25] <Chuck_Norris> erikk: np
[18:25] <Nariz> bekks; That's why I asked the question, I don't want to run the goddamn dist-upgrade to upgrade them.
[18:26] <OerHeks>  pepperflash in ff is just a hack, not really safe.
[18:26] <Nariz> bekks; I don't want to upgrade my distro.
[18:26] <NegativeFlare> Whoa now.
[18:26] <bekks> Nariz: Watch your language please. distupgrade does not upgrade your distro. It updates all packages in your release.
[18:26] <Nariz> bekks; I don't want to update every single package in existence on my distro (packages that have upgrades available, I mean)
[18:26] <erikk> OerHeks: What then would you suggest?
[18:27] <HZun> what are the advantages of using a VTE-based terminal emulator instead of a non-VTE-based terminal emulator? and vice versa?
[18:27] <bekks> Nariz: Why not?
[18:27] <Nariz> bekks; I just want to upgrade some selected packages that have upgrades available.
[18:27] <Tobias[L]> erikk: use google chrome for everything flash and else hope this technology gets overridden by html5
[18:27] <bekks> Nariz: Which Ubuntu release are you on, currently?
[18:27] <Nariz> bekks; how do I check that? im quite new to this whole world of su and sudo
[18:27] <YokoBR> guys, i can't get the broadcom bcm4312 to work
[18:27] <bekks> Nariz: Was the output of "lsb_release -sd"?
[18:27] <Nariz> bekks; /etc/release?
[18:27] <bekks> *Whats
[18:27] <Nariz> bekks; Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS
[18:27] <bubbasaures> YokoBR, Have you seen the wiki?
[18:28] <someone235> Chuck_Norris, it doesn't work. Should I uninstall flash?
[18:28] <bekks> Nariz: Then why dont you want to update all packages?
[18:28] <YokoBR> bubbasaures: yep
[18:28] <Nariz> bekks; I don't want to go through the hassle of it all.
[18:28] <Nariz> bekks; it'll take quite some time
[18:28] <bekks> Nariz: Which hassle?
[18:28] <Nariz> bekks; I need to upgrade some packages to get some shit working first
[18:28] <bekks> Nariz: Watch your language.
[18:28] <Nariz> bekks; sorry about that
[18:28] <Nariz> bekks; can you just answer my question?
[18:29] <bekks> Nariz: I did, you did not want to hear the answer.
[18:29] <erikk> Tobias[L]: Why wouldn't Ubuntu adopt Chrome then? Why stick with Firefox?
[18:29] <bubbasaures> YokoBR, That is all the help I have. ;)
[18:29] <Chuck_Norris> someone235: you could unistall it or go to: about:plugins and disable it and then enable: libfreshwrapper-pepperflash.so
[18:29] <Nariz> bekks; alright, bekky boy.
[18:29] <OerHeks> Nariz, Firefox 34 is the latest
[18:29] <Nariz> bekks; ill ask bing for help!
[18:29] <Nariz> bekks; google is your buddy, so I won'
[18:29] <Nariz> i won't ask him*
[18:29] <bekks> Nariz: Do it. Good luck.
[18:29] <YokoBR> bubbasaures: mine is  firmware-b43-lpphy-installer
[18:30] <Tobias[L]> erikk: Firefox is free and open source and doesnt try to get in bed with your data as much as chrome
[18:30] <bekks> Nariz: I wont answer your questions anymore since you dont want to hear the answers.
[18:30] <Nariz> bekks; ok you fuckin retard, I got it. now shut up and do your work
[18:30] <Tobias[L]> erikk: people choosing to install chrome have the possibility to do so ... also dont count on chromium, it doesnt have the flash player plugin
[18:31] <OerHeks> perpperflash is in ourt repo's for chromium
[18:31] <OerHeks> c/our
[18:31] <erikk> And why should I choose pepperflash over the existing flash player?
[18:31] <Chuck_Norris> someone235: or disable and enable here:  about:addons
[18:31] <Tobias[L]> OerHeks: i am not informed about additions to chromium since i never tried to get flash to work anywhere on linux
[18:32] <Tobias[L]> erikk: you shouldnt but chrome's seems to be a tad bit more performant and secure
[18:32] <someone235> Chuck_Norris, where should I place libpepflashplayer.so ?
[18:32] <bekks> erikk: Because the "existing flash player" is not supported by Adobe anymore. They dont ship any updates anymore. Basically, they concentrate on PepperFlash on Linux.
[18:32] <OerHeks> erikk, if it works, don't change.
[18:32] <erikk> bekks: If what you say is true, then it would make sense to switch to PepperFlash
[18:32] <Chuck_Norris> no where, no manualy install
[18:33] <Chuck_Norris> someone235: ----^
[18:33] <erikk> OerHeks: It does work, but I (just as of today) am getting a warning on a lot of websites
[18:33] <bekks> erikk: It is true ;)
[18:33] <Guest97988> anybody help for ubuntu
[18:33] <someone235> Chuck_Norris, I don't see libpepflashplayer in the plugins list
[18:33] <Tobias[L]> erikk: what warning exactly?
[18:33] <Chuck_Norris> someone235: and here? about:addons
[18:34] <erikk> Tobias[L]: "This plugin is vulnerable and should be updated."
[18:34] <someone235> Chuck_Norris, it should be under about:addons->plugins ?
[18:34] <erikk> Tobias[L]: It then gives me a link to update (where it subsequently tells me it is already up to date)
[18:34] <erikk> It also has an option to activate
[18:34] <Chuck_Norris> someone235: i got it in both
[18:35] <someone235> Chuck_Norris, I don't see it in any of them
[18:36] <Tobias[L]> erikk: just add chrome's repo and install it or install chromium and pull over the plugin for it
[18:36] <Tobias[L]> erikk: both give you the newest version of flash for linux
[18:36] <Chuck_Norris> someone235: paste:  aptitude search pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[18:36] <bekks> Chromium does NOT ship with the PepperFlash plugin.
[18:37] <bekks> It is shipped with Chrome only.
[18:37] <Tobias[L]> bekks: i said that
[18:37] <erikk> Tobias[L]: Would it be okay to just get the pepperflash plugin?
[18:37] <erikk> Tobias[L]: What is wrong with that?
[18:38] <Tobias[L]> erikk: your free choice, but i use firefox mainly for development and the old and new opera are my main browsers ^^ also chrome if i ever need flash
[18:39] <parsnip> i am having trouble with login, password works in tty, but not in login screen
[18:40] <Guest97988> who is smart in ubuntu
[18:40] <Tobias[L]> !ask | Guest97988
[18:41] <parmiggiano> parsnip: have you checked the keyboard layout? it's probably US in the ttys, but might be different in lightdm
[18:41] <parsnip> parmiggiano: could this be recent? it has worked up until this morning
[18:41] <k0nichiwa> anyone use tinyproxy ?
[18:41] <bekks> parsnip: So login on TTY and check free disk space
[18:42] <bekks> k0nichiwa: Whats the purpose of your poll?
[18:42] <mguy> k0nichiwa: are you having problems getting it working
[18:42] <k0nichiwa> to see if is working
[18:42] <k0nichiwa> yeah its spawning more and more processes
[18:42] <k0nichiwa> i dont have the ssl ports freed from the firewall i just remembered
[18:42] <k0nichiwa> maybe thats it
[18:43] <someone235> Chuck_Norris, I guess I've missed one step. I've returned all from the beginning and now it works
[18:43] <someone235> thx
[18:43] <Guest97988> hi guys having problem opning hotmail page
[18:43] <Chuck_Norris> someone235: Okaria
[18:43] <Chuck_Norris> someone235: ok
[18:44] <Tobias[L]> Guest97988: what exact error is displayed?
[18:44] <Chuck_Norris> in the meanwhile Chuck_Norris...  http://i.imgur.com/8dORu8I.gif
[18:44] <parmiggiano> parsnip: how does the login fail / what's the message you get?
[18:44] <Guest97988> i checked firewall and cookies but still not working
[18:45] <parmiggiano> parsnip: simply wrong username / password?
[18:45] <Guest97988> the page is not opening
[18:45] <falsesentence> simple question (I hope): how the @#$! do I quit X and use console?
[18:45] <parmiggiano> falsesentence: press ctrl+alt+f2 e.g.
[18:45] <Tobias[L]> Guest97988: have you installed addons to your browser?
[18:45] <parmiggiano> falsesentence: thereby, you don't quit X, but you work in a parallel text-only session
[18:46] <falsesentence> parmiggiano, that doesn't quit X
[18:46] <Guest97988> everthing else working expect hotmail
[18:46] <falsesentence> parmiggiano, also, tty's not working, followed directions to change grub command line moeset, still no tty's
[18:46] <Tobias[L]> Guest97988: you mean the hotmail app? didnt that got switched out with the new outlook mail app?
[18:47] <etzerd> hello all
[18:47] <falsesentence> parmiggiano, but I'll worry about that later. I just want to get out of X so I can install drivers
[18:47] <parmiggiano> falsesentence: so, you want to avoid autostarting of x...
[18:47] <bekks> !nomodeset | falsesentence
[18:48] <falsesentence> ubottu, I did just that, still no ttys
[18:48] <parmiggiano> falsesentence: probably, that also depends on your GRUB config.
[18:48] <parmiggiano> falsesentence: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="text"
[18:49] <falsesentence> parmiggiano, so, I have to apply default=text, then sudo grub-update, boot to cmd, do my thhing, then restore grub. Is that right?
[18:50] <parmiggiano> falsesentence: that's what I would try
[18:50] <falsesentence> parmiggiano, can do thx
[18:54] <user24> excuse me. i can't make antivirus myself. but now i want to know which the process in my computer that use internet connection.how to know it use terminal?.
[18:55] <palecrow> #openstack-horizon
[18:56] <user24> excuse me. i can't make antivirus myself. but now i want to know which the process in my computer that use internet connection.how to know it use terminal?. .i can use command in terminal :  top . but i can't see detail of process. how to know it?
[18:56] <EriC^^> user24: netstat -tupn maybe
[18:57] <user24> EriC^^, thx . i will try it, ..
[18:59] <Chuck_Norris> user24: lsof -p -i -n  maybe :p
[19:00] <Chuck_Norris> oh! sry wrong copy and paste -.-  i meant:  sudo lsof -i
[19:00] <Tobias[L]> user24: use iftop
[19:00] <Chuck_Norris> user24: iptraf -.-
[19:01] <user24> EriC^^,  i have try. but i didn't found other process
[19:01] <user24> Chuck_Norris, thx sir, i will try it too
[19:01] <user24> Tobias[L], thx , i will try too
[19:01] <Chuck_Norris> user24: np
[19:06] <user24> all, i can't find it
[19:06] <user24> but i think , is it possible malware from addons?
[19:06] <ikonia> addons could be malware
[19:06] <ikonia> thats why you are advised to only installed trusted sources
[19:09] <Chuck_Norris> user24: ss
[19:09] <Tobias[L]> user24: why would you even think that you had malware installed?
[19:10] <user24> ikonia, ok. thx .
[19:11] <user24> Tobias[L], cause when i connect to internet, my computer (the cpu processor sound is big in my hearing)
[19:11] <user24> Tobias[L], and something the sound is small.
[19:11] <user24> *sound of cpu
[19:12] <ikonia> user24: thats no reason to suspect malware
[19:12] <ikonia> thats just the fan coming on
[19:12] <falsesentence> parmiggiano, well that was harrowing. I think it worked except I had to enter startx to get back to GUI
[19:12] <Chuck_Norris> user24: htop   and and check that no proccess is 100%
[19:12] <user24> ikonia, but the fan sound is not normally.
[19:12] <Tobias[L]> user24: if you mean your fan is going loud that isnt caused by malware, it is likely just the cpu struggling to keep up with your browser
[19:13] <ikonia> user24: there could be many reason for a fan to come on
[19:13] <falsesentence> parmiggiano, troubles were Nvidia driver issues. I'm trying to test out CUDA.
[19:13] <user24> Chuck_Norris, thx for htop. i  will be try it.
[19:14] <falsesentence> Chuck_Norris, hey you know why there's not a Bruce Lee jokes meme? Because Bruce Lee's no joke
[19:14] <Chuck_Norris> user24: ok
[19:15] <user24> Tobias[L],  but the malware can use our cpu.
[19:15] <user24> ikonia, i still finding why its happen in my cpu
[19:15] <ikonia> user24: please don't make wild guesses
[19:15] <ikonia> user24: find out why - don't make up a situation out of nothing
[19:16] <user24> Chuck_Norris, i have try htop. but the result=ImportError: No module named CommandNotFound
[19:16] <fat_rat> user24: try top
[19:17] <Chuck_Norris> user: sudo apt-get install htop ; htop
[19:18] <user24> ikonia, about several seconds ago my cpu fan have stop sound. now is silent. but i still don't why it can stop sound. thx
[19:18] <ikonia> user24: as I've said 4 times - it can be many reasons
[19:19] <user24> fat_rat, i have try top. result:Xorg,gnome-terminal,.but the result it change every several second.
[19:19] <user24> fat_rat, thx
[19:20] <user24> ikonia, ok.thx. i'm sorry. but i think i still thinking about my problem in cpu process. thx.
[19:20] <ikonia> user24: it will be a cpu problem - but there is no reason to randomly suspect malware
[19:21] <Tobias[L]> user24: i guarantee you, a browser is in itself a really complex program, meaning your cpu will have to use alot of power
[19:22] <user24> ikonia, thx.
[19:22] <Tobias[L]> user24: unless you have a really fast cpu your browser will use a rather big percentage of performance, meaning your cpu becomes hot and needs to be cooled
[19:22] <user24> Tobias[L], i have disable all addon several month ago.
[19:23] <Tobias[L]> user24: even a basic browser uses alot of power
[19:24] <fat_rat> uuser24: try something lighter than firefox
[19:24] <user24> Tobias[L], thx. i think it is true , cpu sound can be many reasons.
[19:24] <Chuck_Norris> user24: when yours fan sounds open:  gnome-system-monitor   and see what is the proccess load, if you are running ubuntu in a notebook/netbook that hasn't a good proccessor and you are running big softwares or a bunch o sofware at the same time, then it obvious that you fan will work
[19:25] <Chuck_Norris> user24: gnome-system-monitor   or   htop
[19:25] <user24> Chuck_Norris, yes sir, when i see in process, there are gnome-system-monitor
[19:26] <Chuck_Norris> user24: if there is a procces at 100% then it is a bug in a sofware, you gotta kill the proccess
[19:26] <user24> Chuck_Norris, %cpu in display is high.
[19:27] <user24> Chuck_Norris, ok sir, thx for info
[19:29] <Chuck_Norris> user24: and if it's an old notebook then, maybe it is time for cleaning up the cooler and stuff, if none of before applies (100% cpu and a lot of software working at the same time)
[19:29] <user24> fat_rat, i'm sorry i can't to do much to migration my browser. caused my connection is limited to download.
[19:29] <ikonia> there seems to be a lot of random guesses going on
[19:29] <ikonia> try to work with fact please - check his cpu status, what's using it, until that is cleared up, there is little point in guessing
[19:29] <fat_rat> user24: sorry to hear that
[19:30] <user24> Chuck_Norris, thx. the sound of my cpu now is silent itself
[19:30] <Chuck_Norris> user24: ok
[19:32] <user24> ikonia, i'm sorry. i can't to do more to fix my hardware caused some reasons.thx
[19:34] <user24> ikonia, so that i just to do find solution in process only, no hardware.
[19:34] <ikonia> I don't understand what you are saying
[19:34] <user24> ikonia, ok . i'm try to explain detail.
[19:35] <user24> the solution = hardaware solutions and software solutions.
[19:36] <ikonia> the solution is to find the problem
[19:36] <Chuck_Norris> user24: what is your cpu?
[19:36] <user24> but i can't to do hardware solution. so that i just use software solutions such as command in terminal.
[19:37] <ikonia> user24: sorry, I don't understand
[19:37] <user24> Chuck_Norris, intel
[19:38] <user24> *intel mobile M
[19:38] <Chuck_Norris> user24: are you running Unity right?
[19:38] <user24> Chuck_Norris, no.
[19:39] <Chuck_Norris> user24: what DE are you running?
[19:39] <user24> ikonia, thx for your sugestion. no problem.
[19:39] <user24> DE ?, i'm sorry what is that
[19:39] <user24> o yes. 10.04
[19:40] <user24> Chuck_Norris, 10.04
[19:41] <Chuck_Norris> user24: paste:  cat /proc/cpuinfo
[19:42] <user24> yes
[19:44] <user24> Chuck_Norris, yes
[19:44] <user24> pentium M
[19:45] <ikonia> that is not the ouptut
[19:45] <ikonia> output
[19:45] <ikonia> if you cannot do what is asked of you - you cannot get help
[19:45] <user24> pentium M 1.5
[19:45] <Chuck_Norris> user24: do you know how to paste information?
[19:45] <ikonia> user24: that is not the output of "cat /proc/cputinfo"
[19:46] <amr> hi, does anyone know how to check if my cpu (intel i5 4200u) is correctly configured? when i run i7z i dont see a c7 state
[19:46] <amr> it runs hot, and i think im missing some setup
[19:46] <user24> i can't to paste all.
[19:47] <user24> but i give result of model name=intel pentium M
[19:47] <Chuck_Norris> user24: np, it is a netbook right?  yes i found a single core at 1.5 ghz
[19:47] <ChogyDan> user24: try installing pastebinit and using that
[19:49] <happyraver1958> Hello Ubuntu people! I made a post in the Ubuntu Forums and I've got only visits but no answers to it and I'd like to know if somebody here has encountered the same or similar problem as mine
[19:49] <user24> Chuck_Norris, is it not netbook but laptop
[19:49] <user24> 1.5 ghz, yes that is true
[19:49] <ikonia> happyraver1958: explain your problem
[19:49] <happyraver1958> my ubuntu 14.04.1 server will not respond to DNS queries
[19:49] <Chuck_Norris> user24: which is not a powerfull proccessor, so... i would think that it's obvious that your fun will go crazy running for example whatever internet browser and watching youtube videos i think
[19:49] <user24> Chuck_Norris, 1.5 ghz, yes that is true
[19:49] <ikonia> happyraver1958: your running a dns server, or a dns client
[19:50] <happyraver1958> I have BIND9 installed
[19:50] <ikonia> happyraver1958: your running a dns server, or a dns client
[19:50] <happyraver1958> this is a server
[19:50] <ikonia> happyraver1958: how are you verifying if it responding to queriers or not
[19:50] <happyraver1958> but as soon as I enable views on my BIND9 configuration, it will not respond to queries
[19:50] <happyraver1958> I tried everything, inside the network, outside the LAN, from within the same server
[19:51] <happyraver1958> does not respond to any queries whatsoever, but only when views are configured
[19:51] <ikonia> happyraver1958: have you got recursion enabled within the views
[19:51] <user24> Chuck_Norris, yes sir . when i'm browsing. i just use text no image, no video caused slow connection
[19:51] <happyraver1958> no log entries about declining or dropping requests
[19:51] <happyraver1958> I have recursion enabled only for Internal clients
[19:51] <happyraver1958> I have full details in my post if anybody can read them
[19:51] <Chuck_Norris> user24: it common that, that kind of proccessors will overheat (cooler at work at every software you open up, if i am you, i just would run one software at a time
[19:51] <ikonia> happyraver1958: when you enable views, can you connect to the tcp 53 port still ?
[19:52] <Chuck_Norris> (cooler at work)*
[19:52] <happyraver1958> yes, #53 is listening
[19:52] <killitwithfirepl> why does this happens?
[19:52] <killitwithfirepl> root@therealjedi:~# mysql -u root -p
[19:52] <killitwithfirepl> Enter password:
[19:52] <killitwithfirepl> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[19:52] <ikonia> happyraver1958: can you connect on it though
[19:52] <user24> Chuck_Norris, yes sir. i don't use external cooler.
[19:52] <ikonia> killitwithfirepl: 1.) you shouldn't be root 2.) you probably don't have mysql running - so the socket file will not be there
[19:52] <happyraver1958> I'm not sure, I've only been running dig and nslookup
[19:52] <happyraver1958> I haven't tried to connect to it
[19:52] <ikonia> happyraver1958: try it at a dumb socket level
[19:53] <ikonia> happyraver1958: just confirm it's running
[19:53] <Chuck_Norris> user24: take a picture of your screen and paste it here
[19:53] <killitwithfirepl> ikonia:even as a user, it does the same.
[19:53] <happyraver1958> according to the local ports open on the server, it is, I'm also running nmap and it finds it open as well
[19:53] <ikonia> killitwithfirepl: read point 2
[19:53] <ikonia> happyraver1958: actually open a socket to it
[19:53] <killitwithfirepl> how
[19:53] <ikonia> happyraver1958: confirm - maybe even get a useful rejection message
[19:53] <ikonia> telnet to the port for example
[19:54] <happyraver1958> no messages whatsoever
[19:54] <user24> Chuck_Norris, i have a friend that he use home fun to cooler his cpu(dekstop). he open casing, and use house fan.
[19:54] <happyraver1958> only on queries though, how can I open a socket to it?
[19:54] <ikonia> happyraver1958: does it open a socket ?
[19:54] <ikonia> telnet to the port
[19:54] <killitwithfirepl> the thing is, i am following a guide, i am at point 13: http://www.howtoforge.com/virtual-users-and-domains-with-postfix-courier-mysql-and-squirrelmail-ubuntu-12.04-lts-p4
[19:54] <killitwithfirepl> i just used telnet on port 25, it worked.
[19:54] <killitwithfirepl> i am trying not to fuckup
[19:54] <ikonia> killitwithfirepl: there is no need to swear
[19:54] <killitwithfirepl> been trying to setup mail server for about 4 months now
[19:54] <ikonia> killitwithfirepl: it is not welcome in this channel
[19:54] <killitwithfirepl> ya, there is.
[19:54] <stefan_ka> hi, what would be the best filesystem for ubuntu on a SSD?
[19:54] <ikonia> killitwithfirepl: no - there isn't, it is not welcome in this channel
[19:55] <ikonia> stefan_ka: use default ext4
[19:55] <lastrodamo> my xubuntu crash all the time with the updates -> the problem is nvidia and linux-image
[19:55] <killitwithfirepl> there is a difference between blatantly swearing, and saying something normal like i fukedup
[19:55] <lastrodamo> is a good way to load xubuntu whithout crash
[19:55] <happyraver1958> connection timed out
[19:55] <Pici> killitwithfirepl: not in this channel. Please keep it clean
[19:55] <user24> Chuck_Norris, thx sir.
[19:55] <killitwithfirepl> it is clean
[19:55] <happyraver1958> when I run dig I get SERVFAIL
[19:55] <Chuck_Norris> user24: ok, np
[19:55] <stefan_ka> ikonia: thank you
[19:55] <happyraver1958> but the daemon is running
[19:55] <killitwithfirepl> i dont see what the big fuss is
[19:55] <killitwithfirepl> i need help
[19:55] <killitwithfirepl> im mad
[19:55] <user24> ikonia, thx too. and all here
[19:55] <ikonia> happyraver1958: can you connect to the daemon
[19:55] <Pici> Then please abide by our guidelines and you will receive help :)
[19:56] <killitwithfirepl> ikonia:you don't need to flash your "powers" i don't really care
[19:56] <killitwithfirepl> its only showing abuse will be done
[19:56] <happyraver1958> let me try
[19:59] <happyraver1958> I get "connection closed by foreign host." by telneting on the localhost
[19:59] <ikonia> happyraver1958: so it does actually make a conecting then
[19:59] <Darknet> so i am still having an issue, and since an op has a power-fit i got booted.
[19:59] <mikes1> Czech?
[19:59] <ikonia> Darknet: if you behave and follow the rules, you'll get help, no issue
[19:59] <happyraver1958> it does, seems like it
[20:00] <ikonia> happyraver1958: so it looks to me - at the moment as if the views are putting in connection rules too
[20:00] <Darknet> i do follow the rules, im just really man, and you have no "customer service" skills in defusing situations
[20:00] <happyraver1958> trying x.x.x.x...  then connected to x.x.x.x Escape character... Connection closed by foreign host
[20:00] <Darknet> im a member too you know.
[20:00] <Darknet> just sayign
[20:00] <ikonia> Darknet: if your a member you know the rules and should have no problem following them, such as no swearing, there will be no more discusion on it
[20:00] <Darknet> its not a discussion
[20:01] <ikonia> happyraver1958: I hit one of my dns servers using views, and I get a connection and until I type it stays open
[20:01] <ikonia> happyraver1958: you're getting the connection dropped straight away, suggesting an ACL is rejecting you on connection
[20:01] <ikonia> happyraver1958: (this is an assumption of course)
[20:01] <ikonia> happyraver1958: on the same server, can you do "telnet localhost 53"
[20:01] <ikonia> happyraver1958: does the connection stay open ?
[20:02] <mohammed_> hello
[20:02] <happyraver1958> the connection seems to drop, I don't type anything before it drops on its own
[20:02] <happyraver1958> I'm not sure it's a time out or a purposeful drop
[20:02] <Guest44809> ????????????
[20:02] <ikonia> happyraver1958: lets try localhost
[20:02] <happyraver1958> trying
[20:03] <Bashing-om> MohammadAG: Hi, You have an ubuntu support request ?
[20:03] <Guest44809> hello guys how can i enable cgi in localhost?
[20:03] <happyraver1958> same result :(
[20:03] <ikonia> happyraver1958: thats interesting
[20:03] <ikonia> happyraver1958: are you using ACLS ?
[20:04] <happyraver1958> I used them to try at some point, then I removed them and restarted the server I don't know how many times
[20:04] <happyraver1958> let me double-check
[20:05] <happyraver1958> yes, acl internals {  192.168.0.0/16;  };  which means my entire internal network
[20:05] <ikonia> happyraver1958: I'd suggest doing this sysematically
[20:05] <ikonia> happyraver1958: remove the views - do the telnet test
[20:05] <ikonia> happyraver1958: put the views back, do the telnet test, see if the behaviour differs
[20:06] <ikonia> happyraver1958: then move forward
[20:06] <bugtraq> list
[20:06] <andril> hello
[20:06] <bugtraq> Hi
[20:06] <happyraver1958> I already did that ikonia, as soon as I remove the views, everything works, all queries respond, I get log entries, everything works normal
[20:06] <happyraver1958> but once I introduce views, it stops responding
[20:07] <ikonia> happyraver1958: please try to pay attention
[20:07] <ikonia> happyraver1958: I'm specfically asking you to do the telnet test
[20:07] <ikonia> not "it works/doesn't work" test
[20:07] <happyraver1958> fair point
[20:07] <ikonia> happyraver1958: the behaviour at a dumb socket level is what I'm interested in
[20:08] <happyraver1958> it may take me a couple a minutes to change it back
[20:09] <ikonia> thats fine, I need to step away too for a short while
[20:16] <bibi234> is it possible to connect a smartphone to internet through my laptop?
[20:17] <bazhang> !ics
[20:17] <bazhang> bibi234, ^
[20:18] <happyraver1958> I'm getting SERVFAIL too, if you're ikonia
[20:19] <happyraver1958> same results, without views  :(
[20:20] <Darknet> http://puu.sh/drYsh/807e19c51f.png <-- any ideas what is wrong?
[20:21] <theadmin> Darknet: Does /etc/apache2/conf.d/ exist?
[20:23] <bugtraq> shdf,j
[20:23] <arun_> guys, is it possible to install Ubuntu in a POS device ?
[20:23] <bugtraq> dukd ,a hgla;gm
[20:23] <MonkeyDust> bugtraq  it works, we see you
[20:28] <pancakes9> hey what is the reason nmap returns more port information than a tool like netcat?
[20:29] <Ugb3> Hey guys, i'm trying to make Mythtv work with IPTV on my ubuntu machine, but after having configured everything like in the guides, when I press watch TV it just flash and get back to the UI, anyone could point me the right direction ? Here is my log : http://paste.ubuntu.com/9493508/
[20:29] <Darknet> no theadmin
[20:29] <mdoge> pancakes9: nmap has an 'engine' for version scanning
[20:29] <pancakes9> mdoge: huh?
[20:29] <mdoge> pancakes9: that goes further than making conclusions from what the port returned
[20:30] <Darknet> arun_: if you need a really small distro, try to use puppylinux
[20:30] <theadmin> Darknet: Well there's your problem, you're making a symlink inside a non-existent directory
[20:30] <Darknet> its so small a broken 512mb ram would support it
[20:30] <bazhang> !mythtv | Ugb3
[20:30] <Darknet> theadmin: this sucks, since i have no idea what i am doing.
[20:30] <mdoge> pancakes9: nmap actively sends test packets to determine what kind of service it is. This is more than you would do through netcat.
[20:30] <theadmin> Darknet: ...k. Is Apache2 even installed in the first place?
[20:31] <ikonia> Darknet: if you're not confirdent with the basics, you may want to consider not running a mail server
[20:31] <Darknet> theadmin: no idea, someone here yesterday told me to follow this guide http://www.howtoforge.com/virtual-users-and-domains-with-postfix-courier-mysql-and-squirrelmail-ubuntu-12.04-lts-p5
[20:31] <Darknet> and i am at item 13 now, (page 5)
[20:31] <ikonia> Darknet: they are common to compromise and getting you kicked off your network
[20:32] <theadmin> Darknet: You mean 15?
[20:32] <Darknet> ikonia: bad answer
[20:32] <theadmin> That page starts with 15
[20:32] <ikonia> a mail server (especially with virtual hosts) is not something that should be blindly followed
[20:32] <Darknet> (if you can't use a gun, don't defend yourself)
[20:32] <Darknet> how can you say that?
[20:32] <ikonia> there needs to be a base understanding of the technology
[20:32] <Darknet> theadmin: yes sorry. 15.
[20:32] <bibi234> bazhang: apparently to create a new Ad-hoc network, the laptop needs to be connected in wifi, but it's connected with an ethernet cable
[20:32] <arun_> guys, is it possible to install Ubuntu in a POS device ?
[20:33] <theadmin> Darknet: Well, just to make sure... sudo apt-get install apache2
[20:33] <ikonia> arun_: if the architechture suppors it
[20:33] <Darknet> theadmin: i think this guide assumes apache2 is installed, right?
[20:33] <bibi234> but my laptop has a wifi card, so I'd like to connect my android smarthpone to internet through the laptop
[20:33] <arun_> ikonia: ok sir, is the easy to add option/modify gnome-shell ?
[20:33] <Darknet> ya 10-4
[20:33] <Darknet> apache2 is already the newest versio
[20:33] <Darknet> lol
[20:33] <ikonia> arun_: depends on your abilities, there are gnome extensions which have good development documentation
[20:33] <solsTiCe> hi. how am i supposed to use an mtp (android phone) device in rhythmbox. the mtp device shows up in nautilus fine. but in rhythmbox ?
[20:34] <theadmin> Darknet: It seems so.
[20:34] <theadmin> Darknet: Hm, err. Can you do ls /etc/apache2/
[20:34] <mdoge> theadmin: even better; whereis apache2
[20:35] <bynarie> anyone been able to install photoshop CC with wine?
[20:35] <Darknet> he1kki: yes: http://puu.sh/drZGU/778c732b9d.png
[20:35] <Darknet> theadmin:  *
[20:35] <mdoge> Darknet: this doesnt mean apache is actually installed. Try 'whereis apache2'
[20:35] <arun_> ikonia: thank you sir !!!
[20:36] <genii> bynarie: They'd probably know more about that in the #winehq
[20:36] <bynarie> genii, ok thanks!
[20:36] <arun_> ikonia: i needed to modify gnome-menu so, how tough is it ?
[20:36] <Darknet> darknet@therealjedi:/usr/share/squirrelmail/plugins$ whereis apache2
[20:36] <Darknet> apache2: /usr/sbin/apache2 /etc/apache2 /usr/lib/apache2 /usr/share/apache2 /usr/share/man/man8/apache2.8.gz
[20:36] <ikonia> arun_: it depends on your abilities, you could do it though an extension though
[20:36] <mdoge> Darknet: ok, it is installed.
[20:37] <Darknet> ya
[20:37] <arun_> ikonia: which extension sir ??
[20:37] <ikonia> arun_: you need to write one
[20:37] <arun_> ikonia: hehe :) I thought a tool lol ;)
[20:37] <Darknet> mdoge: maybe you know an easier way. i just want to have one email address working on my outlook.
[20:37] <Darknet> thats all i need
[20:37] <ikonia> (or search the existing extensions site)
[20:37] <Darknet> i don't care if i have to kill a kitten for it, i have been trying for about 4 months now.
[20:37] <arooni-mobile> can someone tell me why when there is a new wireless network network i want to connect to, i first have change users to a new user to get prompted for the password?  running 14.04; should i just updated to 14.10?
[20:38] <ikonia> Darknet: you don't need a mail server to use outlook
[20:38] <ikonia> Darknet: your ISP will provide mail relays
[20:38] <mdoge> Darknet: I don't dare to setup email servers. It's a tedious process. I can't help you
[20:38] <Pici> Darknet: It looks like you aren't running the same version of apache that your tutorial is running, or the tutorial is wrong.
[20:38] <ikonia> Darknet: maybe making something more complex than it needs to be ?
[20:38] <Darknet> i manage my domain/vps (godaddy/digitalocean)
[20:39] <ikonia> Darknet: as I recall godaddy provide a catch all mail host as part of their service
[20:39] <Darknet> never saw this in 5yrs of being a customer there.
[20:39] <ikonia> I could be wrong, but it's worth checking
[20:40] <Pici> Darknet: squirrelmail provides a webmail portal, it doesn't sound like that is actually what you want.
[20:40] <ikonia> setting up a mail server (especially one with backends and virtual users) is a big requirement for just an email address
[20:40] <Darknet> my NS1,2 and 3 are set to digitalocean, so my vps manages everything itself.
[20:40] <daklan> Darknet, postfix + dovecot is what i use
[20:40] <ikonia> Darknet: they are just dns servers
[20:40] <ikonia> Darknet: not really a factor to this end of the mail chain
[20:40] <Darknet> Pici: i know squirellmail, i used it on cPanel, all i want is to have a valid email addy that i can use on my outlook client on my desktop.
[20:41] <ikonia> squirrel mail won't give you that
[20:41] <ikonia> it doesn't setup/manage emails
[20:41] <ikonia> it's jus a webmail client
[20:41] <Darknet> daklan: are those easy to setup on ubuntu? 14.04 ?
[20:41] <daklan> Sure, plenty of tutorials everywhere
[20:41] <Darknet> i know
[20:41] <Darknet> i know
[20:41] <ikonia> if you know squirrel mail is not what you need, why are you setting it up ?
[20:42] <Darknet> i am at my 10th ish tutorial
[20:42] <Darknet> about the same reformat
[20:42] <daklan> You can get more advanced with it, like have it run with ssl support, transport to commercial gateways, etc.
[20:42] <Darknet> been on this thing for like 4 months now
[20:42] <Darknet> how friggin hard can it be
[20:42] <Chuck_Norris> Darknet: do you wanna send email to your registred users?
[20:42] <ikonia> Darknet: I think you're doing something you don't need to do
[20:42] <daklan> Amavis would also give you spam/antivirus scanning
[20:42] <WaKaN>  
[20:42] <ikonia> Darknet: you basically want a mail account, thats it ?
[20:43] <Darknet> ikonia: this guide was to setup everything i need to have a mail server, a mailbox, and mail.domains.com
[20:43] <ikonia> Darknet: that guide is way over the top especially for a single domain
[20:43] <Darknet> all i want is to have one email address to work (send receive) from my outlook 2010 client
[20:43] <Darknet> thats all i need
[20:43] <ikonia> Darknet: ok - you don't need any of that stuff then
[20:43] <Darknet> -.-'
[20:44] <xentity1x> I have a question about the nvidia proprietary drivers. Does nvidia make them, and how are they different from windows drivers?
[20:44] <Darknet> i dont care of mailboxes (roundcube, squirell,...) all i want is to be able to have/send mail from my domain. its all i need.
[20:44] <destined> how to start learning webpage development from scratch?
[20:44] <Darknet> xentity1x: nvidia makes their own drivers.
[20:44] <JavaJosh> Can someone PLEASE help me, I have an emergency and I need my computer. Ubuntu is just booting to a black screen, I have Nvidia, i tried nomodeset and that gets be a black screen with my mouse cursor, HELP!
[20:44] <daklan> Dovecot would be what you need so you can use your smtp server with outlook
[20:45] <Darknet> destined: www.code.org
[20:45] <ikonia> Darknet: I'd suggest not running any of that on your server unless you really understand it
[20:45] <ikonia> Darknet: there are simpler ways to manage this
[20:45] <xentity1x> darknet, and those are the ones that are available in the proprietary repositories?
[20:45] <ikonia> (especially if you've been struggling for 4 months)
[20:45] <Darknet> ikonia: like?
[20:45] <ikonia> Darknet: there are a lot of web services provided by hosters
[20:45] <Darknet> xentity1x: go on the respective website, and get the proper driver.
[20:46] <ikonia> Darknet: who hosts your actually web space ?
[20:46] <ikonia> (maybe we could move this to #ubuntu-offtopic)
[20:46] <Darknet> ikonia: but, i don't want to use google/yahoo/outlook.com..
[20:46] <ikonia> Darknet: you don't need to use them
[20:46] <Darknet> i do
[20:46] <Darknet> i use godaddy for my domains, and digitalocean for my vps
[20:46] <Darknet> nothing else
[20:46] <Darknet> 5$ a month
[20:46] <ikonia> Darknet: lets move to #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:46] <destined> webpage development on ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[20:46] <Darknet> its on topic
[20:46] <Pici> destined: Is that a question?
[20:46] <ikonia> Darknet: lets talk about your options, then if you need something on ubuntu we can come back
[20:47] <JavaJosh> Having an emergency and I need to get on my computer, ubuntu is just booting to a black screen, can anyone help me? I'd be forever greatful
[20:47] <HoloIRCUser7> Trying to write log file dmesg > ~/dmesg.log got an output bash: /root/dmesg.log: read-only file system What to do
[20:47] <Chuck_Norris> Darknet: maybe what you need is a ssl certificated? -.-
[20:48] <destined> ya i wana start webpage development using ubuntu softwares from scratch @pici
[20:48] <ikonia> Chuck_Norris: why would he need an ssl certificate ??
[20:48] <EriC^^> JavaJosh: did you try the guest account?
[20:48] <JavaJosh> EriC^^: I can't get to an account, it's booting to a black screen
[20:48] <JavaJosh> i see grub, a blinking cursor, then black
[20:48] <JavaJosh> EriC^^: i tired nomodeset in grub and I can see my mouse cursor, but just black everything else
[20:48] <JavaJosh> tried*
[20:48] <EriC^^> JavaJosh: it usually boots into the login screen? or you have autologin enabled?
[20:48] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | JavaJosh IF ATI/Nvidia try:
[20:49] <daklan> Chuck Norris doesn't need a SSL certificate. He encrypts everything with his awesomeness
[20:49] <Chuck_Norris> ikonia: well... one day a friend of mine did tells me, Chuck_Norris if you don't wanna be a spam sending e-mails, then... buy a ssl certificated -.-
[20:49] <bibi234> How can I use my laptop as a wireless access point, it is connected to internet through ehternet but it has a wifi cad
[20:49] <ikonia> Chuck_Norris: that's just blind words
[20:49] <JavaJosh> Bashing-om: I did nomodeset, I just get a cursor and a black screen, a mouse cursor that is
[20:49] <EriC^^> bibi234: settings > network > wireless > use as hotspot
[20:50] <JavaJosh> i haven't changed anything, why would ubuntu just start booting to black?
[20:50] <daklan> What he should have told you is secure your mailserver so it doesnt become an open relay
[20:50] <Bashing-om> JavaJosh: EriC^^ :: I would think next is to try and boot to terminal from grub ?
[20:50] <EriC^^> JavaJosh: did you try a different kernel?
[20:50] <JavaJosh> EriC^^: that's out of my league, i've got like 10 minutes to login or i may miss a job opprotunity
[20:50] <JavaJosh> EriC^^: fml
[20:50] <Chuck_Norris> ikonia: i did believe him, cause, he was one good sysadmin -.- he told me something like, if you dont have an ssl, then your e-mail goes stright to the spambox, and you reciber never will read your e-mails
[20:51] <EriC^^> JavaJosh: in grub > advanced > select an older kernel you have there
[20:51] <daklan> SSL wont fix that
[20:51] <JavaJosh> EriC^^: k
[20:52] <JavaJosh> EriC^^: i tried recovery mode, we'll see how that works?
[20:52] <EriC^^> JavaJosh: recovery mode is just a console one
[20:52] <EriC^^> see if it works i guess
[20:52] <JavaJosh> safe graphics mode?
[20:52] <JavaJosh> EriC^^: trying failsafe graphics real quick
[20:53] <bibi234> EriC^^: nothing happens when I click this button, I'm not connected to any wifi connection, I'm using an ethernet connection
[20:53] <JavaJosh> EriC^^: I'm going to miss out on a job because ubuntu randomly decided not to work O_O i may never use ubuntu again O_O
[20:54] <JavaJosh> EriC^^: i can get to tty2
[20:54] <JavaJosh> EriC^^: anything i should try here?
[20:54] <EriC^^> JavaJosh: did you try the older kernel
[20:54] <fanno> hi all ... i am having this issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1382462 is there any way to revert to ubuntu 10.04 ??? i can't live without dual monitor =///////// (or a selution)
[20:54] <JavaJosh> EriC^^: no idea how
[20:54] <EriC^^> JavaJosh: in grub > advanced > select an older kernel you have there
[20:55] <solsTiCe> how am i supposed to use an mtp (android phone) device in rhythmbox ? the MTP plugin is enabled.  the mtp device shows up in nautilus fine. but not in rhythmbox ?
[20:55] <JavaJosh> EriC^^: 3.13.0-37?
[20:55] <JavaJosh> EriC^^: that's my only option
[20:55] <JavaJosh> EriC^^: well that and the same thing with recovery mode
[20:55] <EriC^^> ok i guess
[20:56] <JavaJosh> EriC^^: nope, didn't work
[20:56] <EriC^^> ok if you press ctrl+alt+f1
[20:56] <EriC^^> do you get a tty?
[20:56] <JavaJosh> nope
[20:56] <JavaJosh> black
[20:56] <JavaJosh> i can get tty2 if i go in nomodeset
[20:56] <EriC^^> ok, do that
[20:56] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: any ideas?
[20:57] <JavaJosh> EriC^^: it may be too late, i had to respond to this job offer NOW :(
[20:57] <JavaJosh> EriC^^: i can't believe this is happening
[20:57] <EriC^^> JavaJosh: respond how
[20:57] <EriC^^> JavaJosh: just use your phone or something
[20:57] <JavaJosh> EriC^^: get on my computer and sign this job offer, all my passwords are on this ubuntu computer
[20:58] <JavaJosh> EriC^^: i'm at TTY2
[20:58] <ej_> any tips on internal sound card ..no audio ive tried i guess everthing.
[20:58] <JavaJosh> EriC^^: logged in
[20:58] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: JavaJosh . No more than you, all I can add is try and boot to terminal (TTY1) from the grub boot menu (text), see what happens. Under time constraint -> boot up the liveDVD and return to this issue later .
[20:59] <daklan> Call HR and plead your case
[20:59] <ej_> #?
[20:59] <EriC^^> yeah i think a live usb and accessing whatever files, programs you need would be best
[20:59] <EriC^^> JavaJosh: ^^
[20:59] <JavaJosh> EriC^^: don't have a live USB ready and made now
[21:00] <cattivik88> !list
[21:00] <JavaJosh> EriC^^: i use ubuntu to avoid the problems of other OS's, but it just cost me my job. fml.
[21:00] <JavaJosh> EriC^^: oh well, **** happens
[21:01] <EriC^^> JavaJosh: how are you signing whatever you need to sign?
[21:01] <daklan> Most likely through a web portal
[21:01] <JavaJosh> EriC^^: digital signature on their website
[21:01] <JavaJosh> don't know my password
[21:01] <daklan> Call HR
[21:01] <EriC^^> JavaJosh: where is the password?
[21:02] <ikonia> how is this an ubuntu issue ?
[21:02] <fanno> is reverting from 14.10 -> 14.04 posible ? i can't figure out how to solve the dual monitor issue
[21:02] <JavaJosh> ikonia: because ubuntu is booting to a black screen
[21:02] <ikonia> fanno: no
[21:02] <daklan> Apparently, ubuntu caused him his job hahaha
[21:02] <ikonia> JavaJosh: that part I understand, but your password problems ?
[21:02] <MonkeyDust> fanno  fresh install 14.04
[21:02] <JavaJosh> daklan: :(
[21:02] <fanno> ikonia:  =//////
[21:02] <fanno> MonkeyDust: won't i loose everyting on my system ?
[21:02] <JavaJosh> ikonia: I need to get into ubuntu and access my personal computing needs, but I can't because of ubuntu booting to black
[21:03] <EriC^^> JavaJosh: where is the password?
[21:03] <JavaJosh> It's too late, they're closed fellas. Thanks for trying to help me, i do appreciate it
[21:03] <daklan> Didnt nean to laugh at your problems, sorry if i did
[21:03] <ikonia> JavaJosh: ok, I get that part of it, I just don't see what the password has to do with it ?
[21:03] <JavaJosh> ikonia: I can't get into ubuntu to access my passwords
[21:03] <Dinosaurio> user passwords are usually stored in /home/passwords/plain
[21:03] <arun_> guys, what is the major changelog between 14.04 and 14.04.1 ?
[21:03] <ej_> any tips on internal sound card ..no controls.. no audio playback
[21:03] <MonkeyDust> fanno  backup first, create a separate /home partition when freshly installing <-- my advice
[21:03] <daklan> Uhm, what???
[21:03] <JavaJosh> I have to go do some damage control, thanks for trying guys, gtg
[21:03] <ikonia> Dinosaurio: that is just made up
[21:04] <fanno> MonkeyDust: i am fairly new to linux, what will seperate perition for /home do for me ?
[21:04] <daklan> Fanno, nothing
[21:05] <MonkeyDust> fanno  keep your personal documents and config files
[21:05] <Dinosaurio> ikonia: prove me wrong
[21:05] <daklan> Unless you know why you'd need separate partitions, you really dont need to worry about it
[21:05] <ikonia> Dinosaurio: nothing in my home directory
[21:05] <Tobias[L]> fanno: you can reinstall ubuntu anytime without worrying about your files
[21:05] <ikonia> Dinosaurio: nothing in any of the home directories on any of the ubuntu machines I use
[21:05] <fanno> MonkeyDust: would backing up /home not do the same ?
[21:06] <MonkeyDust> fanno  yes, but it's easy to have your personal documents untouched
[21:06] <fanno> Tobias[L]: what do i need to search for on google to do that ? (i assume backing up as i always do anyway is still good to do)
[21:06] <daklan> That is if you remember to mount that partition when you reinstall
[21:06] <daklan> A newbie wont remember that
[21:07] <Tobias[L]> fanno: jep always backup and you have to manually partition it, best use gparted to make it yourself
[21:07] <Tobias[L]> fanno: and while you are at it make a separate /boot aswell
[21:08] <ej_> i was fooling in alsamixer i got a low tone changing the left/right volume but thats it..
[21:08] <MonkeyDust> daklan  a newbie can learn how to do it, like we all did
[21:08] <fanno> Tobias[L]: well not sure if this is a issue currently i am using dual boot to windows. because i was not sure how well i would use ubuntu so will this not cause problems ? with /boot unless i miss understand what you mean by that ?
[21:09] <lustic> I cannot get webcamstudio to start,   help? here is my terminal output when i try http://pastebin.com/pmghFnc9
[21:09] <daklan> Sure, the question is what would separate partitions do for a newbie
[21:09] <fanno> Tobias[L]: i am new to linux but i assume that /boot is boot sector ?
[21:09] <daklan> Not the merits of separate partitions
[21:09] <Tobias[L]> fanno: aslong as you keep the partition number under 4 physicals it is okay
[21:09] <Chuck_Norris> fanno: no, /boot wont cause any problem on dualbooting
[21:09] <fanno> Tobias[L]: or something to that affect
[21:09] <arun_> guys, what is the major changelog between 14.04 and 14.04.1 ?
[21:09] <Tobias[L]> fanno: also /boot is not the boot sector but a separate partition where your bootloader and everything is stored
[21:10] <Tobias[L]> fanno: you need to affect your boot sector anyway
[21:10] <lustic> I cannot get webcamstudio to start,   help? here is my terminal output when i try http://pastebin.com/pmghFnc9
[21:10] <Tobias[L]> fanno: unless you fancy usb boot or have a second drive
[21:11] <jkoudys_> what program does ubuntu use to have that mac-like behaviour where the top panel shows the menu + title for the currently active window?
[21:11] <ej_> kfce..
[21:12] <fanno> Tobias[L]: i only have one physical disk. but i am looking to buy a ssd for next time i will reinstall ubuntu without dual boot.
[21:12] <Tobias[L]> jkoudys_: rather "what program mac uses to mimic the effect"
[21:12] <MonkeyDust> jkoudys_  i guess it's called global-menu
[21:12] <Tobias[L]> fanno: even then grub will likely load windows 7 ^^
[21:13] <fanno> Tobias[L]: how bit ssd should i get ?
[21:13] <ej_> is there a sound setting in the bois ?
[21:13] <fanno> Tobias[L]: *big
[21:13] <ej_> in my bios..
[21:13] <arun_> guys
[21:13] <arun_> guys, what is the major changelog between 14.04 and 14.04.1 ?
[21:14] <Tobias[L]> fanno: if you want to only put linux on it and your /data on the hdd, 32 gb is enough
[21:14] <Darknet> useless channel
[21:14] <lustic> I cannot get webcamstudio to start,   help? here is my terminal output when i try http://pastebin.com/pmghFnc9
[21:14] <fanno> Tobias[L]: ok thanks =)
[21:14] <ej_> if i dont have the admin bios passwd ? what would linux do?
[21:14] <Tobias[L]> fanno: if you want to put your data on it 128 gig to a terabyte
[21:14] <trism> arun_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/ChangeSummary/14.04.1
[21:15] <ej_> pci=nobios?
[21:16] <Bashing-om> arun_: Have you read : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/ChangeSummary/14.04.1 ?
[21:17] <lustic> yes figured it out
[21:17] <Tobias[L]> fanno: make sure to get together with an pc expert to talk about what you need exactly, most stores will kindly help you
[21:17] <ej_> recoument any apts? for no audio!
[21:17] <Bashing-om> trism: :( did not see your entry in time .
[21:17] <fanno> Tobias[L]: thx
[21:19] <arun_> thanks guy
[21:19] <arun_> *guys
[21:21] <ej_> any suggestions for no audio..
[21:23] <cliluw> How do I get a script to run on the next boot and never again?
[21:24] <daklan> Add to rc.boot
[21:25] <daklan> Oh you mean just once
[21:25] <daklan> Well, rc.boot, remove afterwards
[21:25] <cliluw> daklan: Yes, just on the next time that the system boots but no other boots afterward.
[21:25] <Smilo> Can I ask questions here about problems I and struggling with?
[21:26] <daklan> Just ask, if someone knows about it they will answer
[21:26] <bekks> Ubuntu related problems? :)
[21:27] <daklan> Yep, that is the assumption of course
[21:27] <daklan> This is freenode, afterball
[21:27] <daklan> Lol, i meant after all
[21:33] <Smilo> Ok so I updated to trusty via the update manager a couple of months back and I havent been able to run updates and this is the error I have been given. W: GPG error: https://download.01.org trusty InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A902DDA375E52366
[21:33] <Smilo> W: Failed to fetch cdrom://Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS _Trusty Tahr_ - Release i386 (20140722.2)/dists/trusty/Release  Unable to find expected entry 'main/binary-amd64/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file) I have looked at some forum posts and have no clue how to fix it
[21:33] <Smilo> Any help would be appreciated
[21:34] <ikonia> Smilo: disable the CD
[21:34] <ikonia> Smilo: disable the odd repo download.01.org
[21:34] <ikonia> Smilo: don't see any ubuntu repos on it
[21:35] <Smilo> Where would I disable it?
[21:35] <ikonia> Smilo: in /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:35] <OerHeks> ikonia, noticed that too, that would be the linux Intel graphics installer, not supported here
[21:36] <ikonia> ughhh
[21:36] <OerHeks> they don't even support it anymore, afaik > https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/2014/intelr-graphics-installer-1.0.6-linux
[21:37] <Smilo> Ok I have removed that and now I only have this error W:Failed to fetch cdrom://Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS _Trusty Tahr_ - Release i386 (20140722.2)/dists/trusty/Release  Unable to find expected entry 'main/binary-amd64/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)
[21:37] <Smilo> , E:Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[21:37] <ikonia> Smilo: I told you to remove the CD source too
[21:38] <Smilo> I don't know what that is sorry, is it in sources.list also? Sorry I am a noob.
[21:38] <ikonia> yes,
[21:38] <o_be_one> hi
[21:39] <o_be_one> idk what my friend did, but now the rm command doesnt work
[21:39] <o_be_one> the history as nothing about that
[21:39] <ikonia> o_be_one: what happens ?
[21:39] <o_be_one> when you type which rm it says its in ~/bin/rm
[21:39] <o_be_one> but i want to change it to /bin/rm
[21:39] <ikonia> o_be_one: show me the exact command you use
[21:39] <o_be_one> just "rm file.txt"
[21:39] <ikonia> o_be_one: type exactly what you have been typing please.
[21:40] <ikonia> o_be_one: and please show me the exact error
[21:40] <o_be_one> [16:37:38] deptaudio@ast7:~$ rm
[21:40] <o_be_one> /home/deptaudio/bin/rm: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[21:40] <o_be_one> i dont want that he uses his own rm script, i want to reset it back to /bin/rm
[21:40] <ikonia> o_be_one: show me the output of the command alias
[21:41] <o_be_one> there is no rm alias in alias
[21:41] <ikonia> o_be_one: well there should be as there is one there by default
[21:41] <ikonia> ls -la /home/deptaudio/bin/rm
[21:41] <o_be_one> its exists
[21:42] <Pici> ikonia: there is?
[21:42] <o_be_one> it exists
[21:42] <ikonia> Pici: normally puts one in for the -i options I think
[21:42] <daklan> This could get interesting. I need to grab some popcorn
[21:42] <ikonia> so that it prompts you
[21:42] <o_be_one> but its a html download fail, (html page with like "404 not found"
[21:42] <ikonia> o_be_one: just remove it then , /usr/bin/rm /home/deptaudio/bin/rm
[21:42] <retroispresto> oi
[21:42] <retroispresto> guys
[21:43] <retroispresto> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition/PartitioningBasics <<< has outdated screenshots
[21:43] <retroispresto> that's not unity, it's gnome 2 ubuntu
[21:43] <Pici> !itsawiki | retroispresto
[21:43] <daftykins> retroispresto: so create an account and update it.
[21:43] <o_be_one> done ikonia
[21:43] <o_be_one> it works
[21:43] <ikonia> o_be_one: problem solved
[21:43] <o_be_one> oh ok so it uses what u put in ~/bin
[21:44] <o_be_one> ikonia, awesome thank you :)
[21:44] <ikonia> o_be_one: the $PATH variable puts that first
[21:45] <Smilo> Ok ikonia thanks I think that fixed it :)
[21:45] <o_be_one> ikonia, good to know i understand a new thing, nice ! thank you a lot ^^
[21:52] <darkdrgn2k> hey all i got an ion baord and im troung to get audio workign on HDMI. it works fine as root but i get no erros and no audio as a regular user
[21:54] <o_be_one> how to activate recycle bin ?
[21:54] <ikonia> it's activated
[21:54] <ikonia> it's enabled by default
[21:55] <darkdrgn2k> anyone? audio for no root users
[21:56] <ikonia> non-root users will get audio by default
[21:56] <o_be_one> ikonia, on ubuntu-server ? Oo
[21:56] <darkdrgn2k> yes and it works fine in XBMC, but not when i try to run speaker test as non root
[21:56] <ikonia> o_be_one: correct
[21:56] <Pici> o_be_one: there is no 'recycle bin' on servers.
[21:57] <daklan> Correct
[21:57] <daftykins> darkdrgn2k: it'd be unwise to combine XBMC issues (if any) with here. we're in #kodi if you want to ask specifically.
[21:57] <darkdrgn2k> daftykins: XBMC is not an issue.. speaker test is
[21:57] <darkdrgn2k> xbmc works fine
[21:57] <darkdrgn2k> and speakertest as ROOT works fine
[21:57] <o_be_one> Pici, i want to add it on a storage server
[21:57] <ikonia> it's a desktop feature
[21:58] <Pici> o_be_one: There is no such concept of a recycle bin.  if you rm a file, it is gone forever.
[21:58] <o_be_one> ive it on a freebsd ...
[21:58] <o_be_one> freebsd server
[21:58] <o_be_one> well i'll search thank you ^^
[22:07] <vbgunz> I'm looking for a trick to do with "byobu"... I'm trying to launch an interactive service in the background from a script *but* be able to somehow open up that interactive service later in Byobu. sort of like opening a window with a script and then closing that window?
[22:07] <vbgunz> but being able to open that window again later when I want
[22:07] <ikonia> vbgunz: screen ?
[22:07] <bsimmons> Hey all, an issues here. I get an: "initclt: Event failed"  But I can log into my tty terminals just fine, Any pro tips about this?
[22:07] <vbgunz> not sure how byobu and screen work together
[22:08] <ikonia> bsimmons: what is failing ?
[22:08] <s00pcan> byobu is screen, configured, no?
[22:08] <s00pcan> I use tmux though
[22:09] <ikonia> vbgunz: what is it you are trying to launch ?
[22:09] <bsimmons> ikonia: No, idea, just getting that error message. Was hoping if somebody have had seen it before.
[22:09] <vbgunz> s00pcan: something like that, it's using one or the other, I'm using byobu, not sure what it's using... I just started with it a couple days ago
[22:09] <ikonia> bsimmons: is it cauing a problem ?
[22:09] <Pici> s00pcan: byobu can either use screen or tmux backends (or at least it could when I used it)
[22:09] <bsimmons> ikonia: Yes, tty7 is just a black screen with that error message.
[22:10] <ikonia> bsimmons: so X is failing
[22:10] <ikonia> bsimmons: did it ever work ?
[22:10] <vbgunz> ikonia: a server I'm trying to attach to again later
[22:10] <bsimmons> ikonia: Although I am in tty3 right now in irssi. So I am not sure what is breaking.
[22:10] <ikonia> vbgunz: "a server" ???
[22:10] <ikonia> vbgunz: what is the software you trying to launch ?
[22:10] <s00pcan> hmm, my package manager says byobu supports tmux.  Ok then
[22:11] <vbgunz> srcds_run a source dedicated server
[22:11] <bsimmons> ikonia: 'twas working last night.  I did install Ardour last night, but I doutb that was it. An apt-get purge and update didn't help either.
[22:11] <ikonia> bsimmons: check the Xorg logs
[22:11] <ikonia> and the syslog
[22:11] <ikonia> you'll get an idea of whats failing and why
[22:12] <bsimmons> ikonia: Fair enough.
[22:18] <bsimmons> ikonia: Didn't see anything remarkable in either log... Grepping for error didn't help either.
[22:18] <bsimmons> ikonia: Maybe I should try runnign 'startx' myself?
[22:19] <cariveri> Hi. How to set up a shared folder for users of a certain group? the problem is when someone creates files without adding the group permission then all other members arent allowed to modify them. but they should be.is there a way?
[22:20] <delta9> hello everybody. i'm trying to install a NETGEAR MA101 wireless USB card, however it is not seeing the networks. any thoughts
[22:22] <NegativeFlare> delta9: Are you sure the driver is installed correctly?
[22:22] <chris_> Hello, i am running 14.04 LTS, and default boot to the command line interface. I tend to like to boot to the x server GUI ("startx") due to it being more memory efficient. but i can't get sound out of it. Is there a way to fix this?
[22:23] <NegativeFlare> chris_: Is pulseaudio setup?
[22:23] <chris_> It should be but i could be wrong, how would i check that\
[22:23] <delta9> NegativeFlare, not really. the only thing i could find was from here: https://wiki.debian.org/at76_usb
[22:24] <delta9> NegativeFlare, that also seems to have lowered my resolution
[22:24] <NegativeFlare> chris_: first off, when you have the GUI running. Check to see if pulseaudio is running the background. You can check this with this command: ps -ea | grep pulseaudio
[22:25] <NegativeFlare> delta9: Resolution on your monitor?
[22:25] <delta9> NegativeFlare, yep. no clue why
[22:25] <NegativeFlare> delta9: I know why, if you're using wheezy's packages with Ubuntu, you could have messed up a good bit of your system.
[22:25] <chris_> it gave me this line "1575 ?       00:00:00 pulse audio"
[22:26] <NegativeFlare> Debian and Ubuntu's repos are similar
[22:26] <NegativeFlare> but are different in the version of the packages
[22:26] <NegativeFlare> chris_: It should look something like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9494648/
[22:27] <delta9> NegativeFlare, i knew that the repos were similar. i just don't see how a wi-fi card firmware messed with my video
[22:28] <NegativeFlare> delta9: It doesn't. But I'm trying to warn you NOT to put debian repos on a Ubuntu machine.
[22:28] <delta9> NegativeFlare, a tad late.
[22:29] <NegativeFlare> delta9: Well remove it, and do a sudo apt-get update. After that reinstall the atmel-firmware package with the one using the Ubuntu repos
[22:29] <NegativeFlare> Because if you haven't noticed. The package is also in the Ubuntu repos
[22:29] <chris_> it only gives me the one line of "1575 ?       00:00:00 pulse audio". so unless it's supposed to give multiple lines with the time changing?
[22:30] <NegativeFlare> chris_: pulseaudio shouldn't have a space in between the words.
[22:30] <NegativeFlare> also, I'd be check out pavucontrol
[22:30] <NegativeFlare> checking out* and making sure that it shows that you have an output device
[22:31] <delta9> NegativeFlare, do i just do sudo apt-get install atmel-firmware?
[22:31] <delta9> because thats what i did in the first place
[22:31] <chris_> sorry, i typed it wrong. its "1575 ?       00:00:00 pulseaudio"
[22:31] <NegativeFlare> delta9: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get remove atmel-firmware && sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get install atmel-firmware
[22:32] <NegativeFlare> chris_: chris_ Like I said, run pavucontrol and make sure that your sound card is on the list of output devices
[22:32] <chris_> okay there. it only has a "Dummy Output". any suggestions?
[22:33] <NegativeFlare> chris_: that means your sound card's driver isn't installed or the driver is blacklisted
[22:33] <Nick_ZWG> Are the apt-get archives unbearably slow for anyone else?
[22:33] <Nick_ZWG> I'm getting 2000 bytes / second trying to apt-get update
[22:34] <NegativeFlare> Nick_ZWG: the update also reads from the lists it downloads, which takes a while sometimes.
[22:34] <chris_> what is the command to install it?
[22:34] <NegativeFlare> chris_: I don't know what your sound card is :P You have to tell me that xD
[22:34] <s00pcan> asus stx II over here :)
[22:34] <NegativeFlare> chris_: check out lspci
[22:35] <Nick_ZWG> NegativeFlare: Yeah but this is ridiculous.  Just curious if archive.ubuntu.com's having network issues
[22:35] <NegativeFlare> Nick_ZWG: its not over here.
[22:35] <Nick_ZWG> Grr.
[22:35] <delta9> Nick_ZWG, its actually stalling often for me
[22:35] <daftykins> it was terribly slow for me last night from gb.archive
[22:36] <daftykins> *shrug* pick another mirror if you have issues
[22:37] <chris_> intel corp. 82801i (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[22:37] <NegativeFlare> Nick_ZWG: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9494734/
[22:37] <NegativeFlare> it only took a bit for my test machine to read the sources list.
[22:37] <NegativeFlare> that's all
[22:38] <bsimmons> ikanobori: So there are really no errors anywher in the syslog and Xorg log, and I can't get the x server running manually.
[22:38] <bsimmons> ikanobori: Any other ideas?
[22:42] <chris_> intel corp. 82801i (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03) is my sound card, but im not sure the command to install the driver
[22:43] <Bashing-om> bsimmons: Is a graphics driver loaded ? show -> sudo lshw -C display | pastebinit <- .
[22:45] <NegativeFlare> chris_: I'm not sure. I can't seem to find anything to help you fix it.
[22:45] <Nick_ZWG> Is this still the best way to add alternate mirrors via CLI only to Ubuntu?
[22:45] <Nick_ZWG> http://askubuntu.com/questions/37753/how-can-i-get-apt-to-use-a-mirror-close-to-me-or-choose-a-faster-mirror
[22:45] <Nick_ZWG> I'm assuming replace "precise" with "trusty
[22:45] <Nick_ZWG> "
[22:45] <NegativeFlare> Nick_ZWG: no, synaptic can do it.
[22:46] <Nick_ZWG> NegativeFlare: I've got no GUI in this case
[22:46] <NegativeFlare> Then the CLI method is the only way then man
[22:53] <lustic> I'm trying to bradcast my desktop rather than my webcam on a videochatroom site, it only detects my webcam though, anyone know how I can go about this ?
[22:56] <delta9> NegativeFlare, after reboot, the card is seen as a card but does not detect any wi-fi networks. the resolution remains in the lowered state
[22:56] <NegativeFlare> delta9: When you say it doesn't detect any networks. What are you using to do that?
[22:57] <delta9> NegativeFlare, the default network manager of the unity desktop
[22:57] <NegativeFlare> oh
[22:57] <NegativeFlare> Unity D:
[22:57] <NegativeFlare> Anyways, try using iwlist via the terminal
[22:58] <zteam> Hi all!
[22:59] <zteam> Is there any downside with converting EXT4 to BTRFS in Ubuntu 14.10?
[23:00] <ice9> is the an application that uses the webcam as scanner?
[23:01] <jatt> yes btrfs is not as stable as ext4
[23:01] <delta9> NegativeFlare, heres the output
[23:01] <delta9> or not
[23:02] <NegativeFlare> delta9: use a pastebin :P
[23:02] <NegativeFlare> !paste
[23:02] <delta9> http://pastebin.com/UCa7m4wn
[23:02] <delta9> there we go
[23:02] <zteam> jatt, from what I understand it should be stable?
[23:03] <jesus_> hola
[23:03] <NegativeFlare> delta9: um, there's more to it than that. Did you not try to actually use it?
[23:03] <NegativeFlare> delta9: normal usage of iwlist is as followed: sudo iwlist wlan0 scanning
[23:04] <delta9> NegativeFlare, wlan0     Interface doesn't support scanning : Device or resource busy
[23:05] <delta9> let me try a live boot
[23:05] <NegativeFlare> heh, it looks like the driver isn't work correctly or something.
[23:07] <gabybro> hi
[23:07] <gabybro> can you guys tell me the best solution tu put ubuntu on usb and then install on my laptop ?
[23:07] <gabybro> pls
[23:08] <xangua> !usb
[23:08] <gabybro> tnx
[23:15] <delta9> NegativeFlare, any idea why the usb antenna isn't detecting networks?
[23:15] <NegativeFlare> delta9: That's the thing, I don't think its the device. I think its just the driver.
[23:16] <delta9> NegativeFlare, so, what should i do?
[23:18] <NegativeFlare> delta9: I'm not sure at all. Some wireless devices act strange with Ubuntu
[23:18] <delta9> well crap
[23:19] <slainr> hey there, are someone here from Brazil?
[23:19] <dts|pokeball> whats a good sandbox?
[23:20] <k1l> !br | slainr
[23:20] <delta9> NegativeFlare, oh well. would you be able to help me set the monitor to the approite resolution?
[23:20] <NegativeFlare> erm
[23:20] <NegativeFlare> !resolution | delta9
[23:20] <delta9> appropriate, sorry i botched that
[23:31] <yecril71pl> Why no Firefox 34?
[23:34] <UNIm95> Hi. I need help. I reinstalled xubuntu 12.04 32bit to 14.0464bit. Now i can not login in gui
[23:35] <UNIm95> syslog get segfault
[23:35] <squinty> yecril71pl:  ubuntu 14.04 here with firefox 34   (update came through a couple of days ago)
[23:35] <onicrom> sooo. the 3.13 kernel (trusty and precise) destroys nfs (clients) L(
[23:35] <UNIm95> for panel, indicator and others
[23:35] <UNIm95> How can i fix it?
[23:35] <k1l> yecril71pl: ?
[23:35] <yecril71pl> squinty: what should I do to get the update?
[23:36] <k1l> yecril71pl: what ubuntu are you on exactly?
[23:36] <yecril71pl> 14.04 LTS
[23:36] <k1l> yecril71pl: run the updates
[23:36] <squinty> yecril71pl:  Software and Updates
[23:37] <yecril71pl> I see, 454 MB.  Thanks.
[23:38] <daftykins> UNIm95: what exactly happens? you login but get no panels etc in Unity?
[23:41] <UNIm95> daftykins: no. i try to login in XFCE4 desktop. But i get only blicking panel at the top of monitor. after console login(ctr+alt+f1) and tail -f /var/log/syslog i see segfault messages
[23:41] <daftykins> UNIm95: ah yes you said xubuntu, my bad. tried to check if a dist-upgrade looks clean?
[23:43] <UNIm95> daftykins: i doesn't made dist-upgrade. i simply made live usb and install xubuntu. I have separate /home
[23:44] <daftykins> UNIm95: it's a clean install then? dist-upgrade isn't what you think it is.
[23:44] <daftykins> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade # this updates all packages to the newest
[23:45] <UNIm95> daftykins: root (/) was clean installed with formatting. /home is old. Firs ubuntu version was 10.10
[23:46] <Jordan_U> UNIm95: I would recommend that you do a memory test, a S.M.A.R.T test on your hard drive, and check the media that you installed from for corruption.
[23:46] <daftykins> UNIm95: ok, test the guest session
[23:47] <Jordan_U> UNIm95: Please pastebin your /var/log/syslog and the output of "dmesg".
[23:47] <Jordan_U> UNIm95: Also try logging in in a guest session, or create a new user, to rule out problematic settings in your home directory.
[23:48] <UNIm95> daftykins: Jordan_U guest session works fine
[23:48] <kokut> Hello, I have an unknown entry on my dash and i would like to know what it is, how do i get that information?
[23:48] <daftykins> UNIm95: you'll want to rename your ~/.config most likely then slowly put folders back until you find the culprit
[23:49] <EriC^^> kokut: in the applications?
[23:49] <kokut> EriC^^: no in the bar to the left
[23:49] <kokut> EriC^^: well, the launcher i guess its the name
[23:50] <kokut> EriC^^: i can click and move it, i dont want to click on it as to launch it tho
[23:50] <UNIm95> daftykins: ~/.config all setting of xfce are in ~/.config/xfce
[23:50] <EriC^^> kokut: gsettings list-recursively | grep -i launcher
[23:50] <Guest72536> guys having problems opening hotmail page anybody can help
[23:50] <EriC^^> kokut: should say what it is
[23:50] <daftykins> UNIm95: even better then.
[23:50] <UNIm95> daftykins: i delete this dir but it doesen't help
[23:51] <daftykins> UNIm95: how about renaming ~/.config like i originally said then?
[23:51] <daftykins> i don't suggest things for fun :(
[23:52] <k1l> Guest72536: what issue
[23:52] <Guest59516> Hi! I|m trying to move my home partition to another disc, because the first one is too small. Just formatting the new disk and then copying the data does not seem to work, because some filenames are too long (in the .encryptfs-folder, my homedir is encrypted). Can someone tell me an alternative approach_
[23:52] <kokut> EriC^^: dood u actually told me exactly how to find that information just like that
[23:52] <UNIm95> daftykins:  whait please. i'm making this with reboot
[23:52] <kokut> EriC^^: thank you very much
[23:53] <EriC^^> kokut: no problem
[23:53] <Jordan_U> Guest59516: What filesystem is on the new disk?
[23:53] <Guest59516> Jordan_U, both file systems are ext4
[23:53] <Jordan_U> Guest59516: Please pastebin the exact error message from cp.
[23:54] <kokut> EriC^^: 'unity://expo-icon', 'unity://devices' should be one of these
[23:55] <UNIm95> daftykins:  i moved .config and it helped.
[23:55] <Jordan_U> jost: Also, it may be better to use rsync, which will allow you to reliably continue a copy where you left off. Either way, you'll also want to be careful that you're passing the correct flags to preserve permissions.
[23:56] <one_roOt> hi, i found  a shell script and need the last part of it with the secret API. but i just don't understand it how to use the API :S can someone help? https://gist.github.com/L3viathan/4bb4a9f2efc6e94fc3a2
[23:56] <jost> Jordan_U: http://dpaste.com/0PGYA3W - if you dont speak german, the error message says that it cannot stat the file because the filename is too long
[23:56] <UNIm95> daftykins: now i need to restore all software configs =(. But thanx
[23:56] <jost> Jordan_U, good hint, I will give rsync a try
[23:56] <kokut> EriC^^: or is it becaus i can move empty spaces between the launcher like they were actual applications?
[23:57] <Guest72536> guys hotmail page wont work . how can i fix the probs
[23:57] <k1l> Guest72536: what issue
[23:57] <kokut> EriC^^: i have a blank space at the end and i can move it like if it was an application and remove it like so as well, if i click it nothing happens
[23:57] <Guest72536> ya samthing
[23:58] <k1l> Guest72536: without a proper support question we cant help you
[23:58] <EriC^^> kokut: what does it say when you right click it?
[23:59] <kokut> EriC^^: nothing
[23:59] <OerHeks> Guest72536, hotmail.com redirects to https://login.live.com, no problem here,