[14:29] <dmfrey> tgm4883, is it possible to do a reinstall of all the myth transcode packages, if any?  my HLS transcodes produce 0 byte segment files
[16:25] <tgm4883> dmfrey: are there specific transcode packages?
[16:25] <tgm4883> dmfrey: there is a way to reinstall packages, but I'm not aware of any that are specific to transcoding
[16:54] <dmfrey> tgm4883, hmm, i am guessing something was missed in an upgrade a while back
[16:55] <dmfrey> this was occurring on 12.04 and is also occurring on 14.04
[16:55] <dmfrey> at some point i am gonna have to bite the bullet and reinstall fresh, i feel
[16:55] <dmfrey> unless there is a safe reinstall on the mythtv packages that won't blow away my db
[17:10] <gedakc> dmfrey:  If you are considering a fresh install of 14.04 and migrating your 12.04 db and recordings, I documented my experience of Migrating Mythbuntu 12.04 to Mythbuntu 14.04
[17:10] <gedakc> http://gedakc.users.sourceforge.net/display-doc.php?name=pvr-mythbuntu1204-to-1404
[17:23] <Kwisher> gedakc: great writeup
[17:25] <gedakc> Kwisher:  Glad you enjoyed it.  :-)
[17:26] <Kwisher> adding to my bookmarks for future reference
[17:29] <gedakc> I've written a few articles on MythTV.  All of these are listed under the documentation tab of the above link.  I have also written about Kobo with GNU/Linux, and streaming TV shows.
[17:32] <Kwisher> very nice, thanks
[18:26] <dmfrey> gedakc, Thanks I will check it out.  I already did the upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04, but I am gonna check this out to get some tips on backing up and restoring on a fresh install
[18:26] <dmfrey> Kwisher, how's it going sir?
[18:28] <gedakc> dmfrey:  If you are migrating 14.04 to a fresh install of 14.04, I anticipate you would encounter less problems.
[18:28] <Kwisher> dmfrey: good, how about yourself?
[18:30] <dmfrey> Kwisher, doing well, working on the new Mythtv for android, watching the flyers :)
[18:31] <dmfrey> gedakc, i think my problem is that some time back a db upgrade either failed or never occurred, most likely failed
[18:31] <dmfrey> i am completely unsure why the HLS transcoding generates 0 byte .ts files
[18:31] <dmfrey> but the hls .html and .m3u8 files all have appropriate contents
[18:32] <Kwisher> dmfrey: can you test with a vm?
[18:32] <Kwisher> maybe subnet it off your lan to not cause conflicts
[18:32] <dmfrey> yes, i could dump the db, do a fresh install in virtualbox and then follow gedakc instructions for restoring
[18:33] <Kwisher> might save you some time and headaches :)
[18:34] <dmfrey> yup
[18:35] <gedakc> dmfrey:  best wishes with your migration to a fresh install.  The steps I documented are the ones I used for 3 PVRs.
[18:36] <dmfrey> gedakc, that is some good stuff. one of the best write-ups I've seen on this.
[18:38] <gedakc> I try to give back to the community where I can.  I prefer to use FOSS and am very impressed with MythTV.  Kudo's to all the people who work on it.
[18:46] <dmfrey> gedakc, I agree, that's why i do the mythtv app for android as well
[18:53] <gedakc> dmfrey:  Cool!  Which android mythtv app do you work on?  I recently acquired an android device and would like to check it out.  :-)
[18:59] <gedakc> Ah, I see you are listed as a committer on mythmote.  :-)
[19:02] <Kwisher> gedakc: you see no performace issues with a software raid for recordings vs a single disk?
[19:04] <gedakc> Kwisher.  So far no performance difference that I've seen.  The only time I saw degradation was when simultaneously recording four HD streams while watching a different one.  Even then there was no impact to the recorded shows, just some stuttering while viewing.
[19:07] <Kwisher> ok, i have 7 tuners
[19:08] <Kwisher> 3-4 simultaneous recordings max plus watching livetv
[19:08] <gedakc> I'm guessing that 7 tuners just might exercise a single disk or software raid a wee bit more that my 4 tuners.  ;-)
[19:09] <Kwisher> i record 99% from my 4 OTA tuners
[19:09] <Kwisher> the other 3 are a hdhr prime
[19:17] <dmfrey> gedakc, search the play store for MythTV Android Frontend
[19:17] <dmfrey> however, I am in the process of re-writing it, re-branding as MythTV Player for Android
[19:18] <dmfrey> no longer trying to be a full-fledged frontend on android, rather a player like Google Play Movies & Tv or Netflix, but with your mythtv backend serving the content
[19:18] <dmfrey> 1 app will work on phone/tablet, Android TV and Chromecast
[19:18] <dmfrey> at least that is the hope
[19:19] <dmfrey> if you try the current app, go join the g+ beta community for it, there is a newer version in there
[19:35] <Kwisher> question: when i record CBS from OTA, lately the recordings are colored yellow in the f/e. Any ideas on what may be causing this?
[19:53] <cnjj> dmfrey: Does the MythTV Android Frontend work with 0.27?  After updating from 0.25 to 0.27.4 to deal with SchedulesDirect it hasn't been working.
[19:54] <cnjj> Also, to reask something from a few days ago in the middle of the night; upgrading from 12.04 to 14.04 causes the machine to lock-up when trying to record from the ceton Infinitv4; the closest thing I found online was: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/538021
[19:55] <cnjj> Although this had been working before the upgrade; I was wondering if anyone had any ideas, otherwise I was planning on just doing a clean re-install, and possible revert to 12.05 userland after burning through some recordings.  I *did* try the old kernel which didn't fix the issue, and the Ceton python script itself also causes a lock-up.
[20:16] <dmfrey> cnjj, it should. i haven't heard that it wasn't working
[20:16] <dmfrey> are you using the beta?
[20:16] <dmfrey> if not, switch to that
[20:16] <dmfrey> in the g+ community
[20:21] <gedakc> dmfrey:  Just saw the mythTV Android Frontend in google play.  If the code is FOSS, you might consider putting it on F-Droid.org too.
[20:21] <gedakc> Did you work on mythmote too?
[20:25] <gedakc> Kwisher: I've noticed that if I have poor OTA reception during recording, the show entry in MythTV shows in yellow text.
[20:30] <cnjj> If that's the program I was thinking of (it's stored on github?) I was using the latest git version as of last week.  Unless there's a different branch.
[20:31] <cnjj> Huh, that looks different from the play screenshots.
[20:32] <cnjj> Oh, nope. Wrong search result.  Yeah, that was what I was using.
[20:32] <cnjj> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.mythtv
[20:33] <dmfrey> gedakc, i was considering it, it is all FOSS, but i am currently rewriting it from the ground up, and i had it on google play and amazon
[20:33] <dmfrey> getting to be too many app stores
[20:33] <dmfrey> anyone is free to take the code and package it up for out there
[20:36] <gedakc> dmfrey:  I understand.  A person can get spread too thin with too much to do.  I just got my Android device so I'm trying to do everything with FOSS only and no google play account.
[20:36] <gedakc> Is there another way to get the .apk file?
[20:40] <gedakc> I could build from source if you have a git repo.  The MythTV-Android-Frontend github repo had its last update 5 months ago.  https://github.com/MythTV-Clients/MythTV-Android-Frontend
[20:43] <dmfrey> that is current
[20:44] <dmfrey> i am gonna move this new repo out there when i get a bit more done on it
[20:44] <dmfrey> there are really good instructions on the wiki page in the github repo for setting up the dev environment
[20:44] <dmfrey> they will need to change for Android Studio
[20:44] <dmfrey> but for that version that is out there, they will suffice for now
[20:45] <gedakc> I just started looking at Android code on Dec 10th.  Near that time Android Studio became production and the eclipse tarballs disappeared from the android web site.
[20:46] <gedakc> I can try importing the code using Android studio.
[20:46] <dmfrey> ah, i didn't realize they pulled that
[20:46] <dmfrey> yes, it should make you a new copy of the code, not tied to github, but usable in AS
[20:46] <gedakc> I was surprised too.  I was planning to set up eclipse, and then this change happened.
[20:47] <dmfrey> i was hesitant at first as well for AS, but now I really like it
[20:47] <dmfrey> never used intellij before
[20:48] <gedakc> I've use eclipse and emacs while I maintain GParted.
[20:48] <dmfrey> i have been using eclipse since 2001
[20:48] <gedakc> That's much longer than me.  I only used emacs back then.  :-)
[20:49] <dmfrey> i don't like in intellij that you can't have more than 1 project open at a time, like in eclipse
[20:49] <dmfrey> but i am adjusting
[20:49] <dmfrey> for work, i have about 20+ web applications I work on/maintain
[20:49] <dmfrey> having to keep switching workspaces would drive me crazy
[20:49] <dmfrey> as they all are interrelated
[20:50] <dmfrey> i.e. through REST calls
[20:50] <dmfrey> and not being able to run more than one at one time would really slow down my productivity
[20:50] <dmfrey> by run, i mean locally, on my laptop
[20:50] <dmfrey> i gotta head out
[20:51] <dmfrey> will be back on later if you have questions about the setup
[20:51] <gedakc> Okay.  I'll try compiling your code.
[20:51] <dmfrey> later