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diddledan"[blade runner 2 script] is the best thing I've ever read": http://paleofuture.gizmodo.com/harrison-ford-says-blade-runner-2-script-is-best-thing-167028543200:19
daftykins:D00:19
daftykinsi shall steal that and spread it elsewhere00:19
zmoylan-pino matter how good they make it it after this amount of time can hope to capture the emotional impact of the first00:21
diddledanthe first was wow00:21
diddledanI hope they get the original music authors00:22
zmoylan-piand they'll probably cgi the buggery out of a sequel00:22
zmoylan-pivangelis is still alive00:22
daftykinsafter i got introduced i've been listening to the Vangelis soundtrack for months00:22
daftykinsomw that's good00:22
diddledanthe music was an integral part of the feeling that it evokes00:22
daftykinsindeed00:23
daftykinsa friend said to me the other day that it's hinted that Deckard is a replicant too... i can't say i'd ever considered it00:24
diddledanyeah it's more hinted in the directors' cut00:24
diddledanwith the unicorn dream00:24
diddledanand then the unicorn origami outside his door00:24
daftykinsah i must not have that cut00:25
zmoylan-piwhy would you risk a human life hunting down replicants?00:25
daftykinswhy would that be a hint - seems almost a premonition00:25
zmoylan-pii never considered otherwise00:25
daftykinsthat's true. i guess he did survive the encounter with Leon pretty easily too00:26
shaunoyaknow, that's one I'm not sure I've actually seen00:33
diddledan:-o00:34
diddledanshauno, your geek is lacking00:34
shaunohm, looking it up .. Im' pretty sure that's one I started and fell asleep00:38
diddledanhttp://devuan.org/00:39
shaunoshame they got rid of the old page.  the old page was funnier.00:42
shaunohttp://web.archive.org/web/20141019125519/http://debianfork.org/00:43
shauno"only few of us have the time and patience to interact with Debian on a voluntary basis."00:44
shaunothey can't vote because they're not DDs and don't have the time to be DDs.00:44
shaunobut they do have the time to roll their own distro00:44
shaunothis, to me, sounds like a trainwreck best observed from a distance00:44
mappsgood orning all05:14
diddledanorning05:14
daftykinsmapps: mornin', so same router yep05:17
mappsa05:24
mappstought so05:24
mappsdaftykins,  i went to a meetup meeting05:24
mappsfor google go:)05:24
mappswas cool....took my laptop and was like 8 of us05:24
daftykinsfor what 0o05:24
mappsgot cutoff05:26
mappsdaftykins,05:26
mappsthe google language05:27
mappsgo05:27
daftykinsoh o005:27
mappswas cool05:27
mappsmet 5/6 people05:27
mappsand was about programming05:28
daftykins:>05:29
diddledan5/6 of a person?05:31
diddledanor five out of six people?05:32
diddledan:-p05:32
daftykinsthat's a bad diddledan05:33
mapps5 peoples05:33
mappsgonna try and quit smoking again in january05:33
diddledanwhat happened to the other guy? ;-)05:33
mappsim smoking like 30 a day now05:34
mappsits real bad05:34
diddledanwonder whether the sweetie shop is open yet05:34
mappswat am i gonna do really05:35
mappsi smoke and drink too much05:35
diddledansomeone on linkedin asks: "Please!tell me why we use function in php/"05:40
diddledanI have trouble working out whether he's serious or not05:40
diddledanwhy is it that linkedin is pretty much entirely indians?05:43
mappse05:44
diddledane?05:45
diddledanecstacy?05:45
mappsno was a typo:)05:54
diddledanout of one character, you managed to typo? that's a 100% failure rate. impressive :-p05:55
daftykinshe's catching up on you, diddledan05:56
mappsi06:29
mappshi06:29
mappsso06:32
mappswe went to a&e my friend reckoned hed been spiked06:33
mappscame back totally fine06:33
mappssaid ed just drunk too muc:)06:33
daftykinsheh06:34
mappsclassic drunk idiot06:35
mappsi told him e'd drunk too miuc06:35
mappsand e started mouthing off and getting aggressive06:36
mappse06:36
mappsheh06:36
daftykinssounds like a real charmer06:36
mappssi06:36
mapps:D06:36
mappsim bad for drink06:37
mappsbut06:37
mappsi never sa anyones spiked me06:37
mappsive just been a fool again:P06:37
daftykinswhat've you gone and done? :>06:37
mappsme? nothing06:37
mappsbut im a big time drinker as u know:P06:38
daftykinsoic i thought you meant something you did tonight06:38
mappsnah06:38
daftykinsi'm on the cans of Guinness again06:38
mappsi was just saying im used to it all06:38
mappsbut i dont cry i been spiked06:38
mappsim an idiot and drink too much06:39
mappshave done for years:P06:39
mappsi probably average 20-25 pints a week year round06:39
daftykinshow many does it take you to get incoherent?06:40
mappshmm06:40
mapps15+06:41
daftykinshaha06:41
daftykinsi stop at 4 :P06:41
mappsi wish i could:)06:41
mappsive drunk 4 before work many times;p06:41
daftykinsXD06:42
mappsthats life tough:)06:42
daftykinsas my doctor friends say, "well hey nobody's gonna die with your work"06:42
mappsi need to cut down06:43
mappsive known tis for years06:43
mappsbut i cant06:43
mappsin UK i went to genting and grosvenor and theyd serve us till 7am06:43
daftykinsgo cold turkey for a month, that'll confuse your tolerance :D06:43
mappsnow m here getting isame routine06:43
mappsand il never meet anyone!06:44
mappsid like to meet a nice girl06:44
mappsi lived on my own in UK06:44
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brobostigonmorning boys and girls.10:36
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penguin42diddledan: Agreed17:03
popeyo/17:03
diddledanhowdo popey , penguin4217:03
zmoylan-pishops weren't too manic today, cold seems to have made more people shop on amazon i think17:06
penguin42Manchester was pretty manic17:08
popeyyeah, wasn't much in aldershot17:10
popeyalthough the shops there aren't exactly great ⍨17:10
* popey went to see Paddington17:11
zmoylan-pidid you bring a parent along for the gritty scenes? :-P17:12
diddledanI heard people have been bemoaning about paddington17:13
diddledansomething along the lines of "he's scruffy"17:13
Guest99956 hi guys, using gnome 3.12 installed via ppa on ubuntu 14.04. since the upgrade of gnome i cant use the trint screen button. and the  "change desktop background" is missing form the right click option, can any one help pls17:13
zmoylan-piis there a way to wear a duffle coat and not look scruffy? :-)17:14
* penguin42 grumbles at a 500 on beeb radio417:17
zmoylan-pithey're killing off some of their services now, aren't they and pushing towards their iplayer thingie17:18
diddledana 500?17:18
penguin42diddledan: server error17:20
penguin42diddledan: http://static.bbci.co.uk/programmes/2.98.0/img/error/500.gif17:20
diddledanon the radio?17:20
penguin42yes17:20
diddledaner..17:20
diddledanhow?17:21
penguin42diddledan: No, I mean on their online radio programmer17:21
penguin42program17:21
diddledano_O17:22
diddledanI'm confused17:22
diddledanso every male geek's fantasy woman has written a book: http://feliciadaybook.com/17:24
popeyspeak for yourself17:24
diddledanteehe17:24
diddledane17:24
* zmoylan-pi quibbles the use of the word 'every'17:24
ali1234does anyne use geany?17:27
ali1234how do i make it recognise my source files automatically?17:28
zmoylan-piright click on the files and change the association?17:52
zmoylan-pidepends on the file manager really17:52
diddledanI think he means in the project explorer17:52
zmoylan-piah, my bad17:52
ali1234yeah, i wanted it to show all the files in my project, not just the ones currently open18:07
ali1234but it doesn't seem to wowrk that way18:08
ali1234how do i make it does cmake out-of-source builds?18:09
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ali1234"pointer smuggling" lol21:29
ali1234you've got to love C++...21:30
penguin42pointer smuggling?21:51
ali1234penguin42: in OOP you can make classes that can't be instantiated in normal ways, like singletons with private constructors22:00
penguin42you mean that can only be constructed by children or friends or something?22:00
ali1234or by a static factory method22:00
ali1234but due to C++ being how it is, there's often a way to break it and get a pointer to the underlying object22:01
ali1234and then delete it22:02
penguin42got an example?22:04
ali1234no22:05
penguin42no prob22:05
* penguin42 hasn't done C++ for about a year, and I never got into very complex tricks22:05
ali1234i was just reading stack exchange and someone mentioned "pointer smuggling"22:06
ali1234http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17134925/how-to-force-only-smart-pointers-instance-for-a-class22:06
penguin42the quick search I did for that came up with stuff for smuggling flags in pointers no tsmuggling pointers22:06
ali1234i wonder if this stuff is any easier in C#22:08
ali1234i've just implemented what is essentially a state machine where each state is a class22:10
ali1234and each state returns a new state object which is the next state22:11
ali1234but only when it is finished22:11
ali1234and also you can have transition states where the previous and next state are active at the same time22:11
ali1234this required smart pointers in order for things to get deleted22:11
SuperEngineersounds like you just invented Aerica!  Too late, mate, it's all ready there!22:13
ali1234what is Aerica?22:14
SuperEngineerexactly22:14
daftykinsAmerica perhaps22:14
* daftykins turns up the SuperEngineer decoder :D22:14
SuperEngineer[though some *do* call it America, admittedly]22:15
ali1234http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerican_Empire22:15
ali1234so anyway the benefit of all this is i can define classes like TitleScreen or LoadingScreen and they all extend from the same base22:19
ali1234and transition effects like Wipe also extend the same base22:19
ali1234and when a particular screen is finished you just make it return Wipe(this, next)22:20
ali1234and you get a wipe. simple, but really annoying to implement that one base class22:20
SuperEngineeryup, definitely sounds like Aerica to me!22:36
SuperEngineer;)22:36
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