[00:19] <diddledan> "[blade runner 2 script] is the best thing I've ever read": http://paleofuture.gizmodo.com/harrison-ford-says-blade-runner-2-script-is-best-thing-1670285432
[00:19] <daftykins> :D
[00:19] <daftykins> i shall steal that and spread it elsewhere
[00:21] <zmoylan-pi> no matter how good they make it it after this amount of time can hope to capture the emotional impact of the first
[00:21] <diddledan> the first was wow
[00:22] <diddledan> I hope they get the original music authors
[00:22] <zmoylan-pi> and they'll probably cgi the buggery out of a sequel
[00:22] <zmoylan-pi> vangelis is still alive
[00:22] <daftykins> after i got introduced i've been listening to the Vangelis soundtrack for months
[00:22] <daftykins> omw that's good
[00:22] <diddledan> the music was an integral part of the feeling that it evokes
[00:23] <daftykins> indeed
[00:24] <daftykins> a friend said to me the other day that it's hinted that Deckard is a replicant too... i can't say i'd ever considered it
[00:24] <diddledan> yeah it's more hinted in the directors' cut
[00:24] <diddledan> with the unicorn dream
[00:24] <diddledan> and then the unicorn origami outside his door
[00:25] <daftykins> ah i must not have that cut
[00:25] <zmoylan-pi> why would you risk a human life hunting down replicants?
[00:25] <daftykins> why would that be a hint - seems almost a premonition
[00:25] <zmoylan-pi> i never considered otherwise
[00:26] <daftykins> that's true. i guess he did survive the encounter with Leon pretty easily too
[00:33] <shauno> yaknow, that's one I'm not sure I've actually seen
[00:34] <diddledan> :-o
[00:34] <diddledan> shauno, your geek is lacking
[00:38] <shauno> hm, looking it up .. Im' pretty sure that's one I started and fell asleep
[00:39] <diddledan> http://devuan.org/
[00:42] <shauno> shame they got rid of the old page.  the old page was funnier.
[00:43] <shauno> http://web.archive.org/web/20141019125519/http://debianfork.org/
[00:44] <shauno> "only few of us have the time and patience to interact with Debian on a voluntary basis."
[00:44] <shauno> they can't vote because they're not DDs and don't have the time to be DDs.
[00:44] <shauno> but they do have the time to roll their own distro
[00:44] <shauno> this, to me, sounds like a trainwreck best observed from a distance
[05:14] <mapps> good orning all
[05:14] <diddledan> orning
[05:17] <daftykins> mapps: mornin', so same router yep
[05:24] <mapps> a
[05:24] <mapps> tought so
[05:24] <mapps> daftykins,  i went to a meetup meeting
[05:24] <mapps> for google go:)
[05:24] <mapps> was cool....took my laptop and was like 8 of us
[05:24] <daftykins> for what 0o
[05:26] <mapps> got cutoff
[05:26] <mapps> daftykins,
[05:27] <mapps> the google language
[05:27] <mapps> go
[05:27] <daftykins> oh o0
[05:27] <mapps> was cool
[05:27] <mapps> met 5/6 people
[05:28] <mapps> and was about programming
[05:29] <daftykins> :>
[05:31] <diddledan> 5/6 of a person?
[05:32] <diddledan> or five out of six people?
[05:32] <diddledan> :-p
[05:33] <daftykins> that's a bad diddledan
[05:33] <mapps> 5 peoples
[05:33] <mapps> gonna try and quit smoking again in january
[05:33] <diddledan> what happened to the other guy? ;-)
[05:34] <mapps> im smoking like 30 a day now
[05:34] <mapps> its real bad
[05:34] <diddledan> wonder whether the sweetie shop is open yet
[05:35] <mapps> wat am i gonna do really
[05:35] <mapps> i smoke and drink too much
[05:40] <diddledan> someone on linkedin asks: "Please!tell me why we use function in php/"
[05:40] <diddledan> I have trouble working out whether he's serious or not
[05:43] <diddledan> why is it that linkedin is pretty much entirely indians?
[05:44] <mapps> e
[05:45] <diddledan> e?
[05:45] <diddledan> ecstacy?
[05:54] <mapps> no was a typo:)
[05:55] <diddledan> out of one character, you managed to typo? that's a 100% failure rate. impressive :-p
[05:56] <daftykins> he's catching up on you, diddledan
[06:29] <mapps> i
[06:29] <mapps> hi
[06:32] <mapps> so
[06:33] <mapps> we went to a&e my friend reckoned hed been spiked
[06:33] <mapps> came back totally fine
[06:33] <mapps> said ed just drunk too muc:)
[06:34] <daftykins> heh
[06:35] <mapps> classic drunk idiot
[06:35] <mapps> i told him e'd drunk too miuc
[06:36] <mapps> and e started mouthing off and getting aggressive
[06:36] <mapps> e
[06:36] <mapps> heh
[06:36] <daftykins> sounds like a real charmer
[06:36] <mapps> si
[06:36] <mapps> :D
[06:37] <mapps> im bad for drink
[06:37] <mapps> but
[06:37] <mapps> i never sa anyones spiked me
[06:37] <mapps> ive just been a fool again:P
[06:37] <daftykins> what've you gone and done? :>
[06:37] <mapps> me? nothing
[06:38] <mapps> but im a big time drinker as u know:P
[06:38] <daftykins> oic i thought you meant something you did tonight
[06:38] <mapps> nah
[06:38] <daftykins> i'm on the cans of Guinness again
[06:38] <mapps> i was just saying im used to it all
[06:38] <mapps> but i dont cry i been spiked
[06:39] <mapps> im an idiot and drink too much
[06:39] <mapps> have done for years:P
[06:39] <mapps> i probably average 20-25 pints a week year round
[06:40] <daftykins> how many does it take you to get incoherent?
[06:40] <mapps> hmm
[06:41] <mapps> 15+
[06:41] <daftykins> haha
[06:41] <daftykins> i stop at 4 :P
[06:41] <mapps> i wish i could:)
[06:41] <mapps> ive drunk 4 before work many times;p
[06:42] <daftykins> XD
[06:42] <mapps> thats life tough:)
[06:42] <daftykins> as my doctor friends say, "well hey nobody's gonna die with your work"
[06:43] <mapps> i need to cut down
[06:43] <mapps> ive known tis for years
[06:43] <mapps> but i cant
[06:43] <mapps> in UK i went to genting and grosvenor and theyd serve us till 7am
[06:43] <daftykins> go cold turkey for a month, that'll confuse your tolerance :D
[06:43] <mapps> now m here getting isame routine
[06:44] <mapps> and il never meet anyone!
[06:44] <mapps> id like to meet a nice girl
[06:44] <mapps> i lived on my own in UK
[10:06] <foobarry> .
[10:36] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[17:00] <diddledan> yawnage
[17:03] <penguin42> diddledan: Agreed
[17:03] <popey> o/
[17:03] <diddledan> howdo popey , penguin42
[17:06] <zmoylan-pi> shops weren't too manic today, cold seems to have made more people shop on amazon i think
[17:08] <penguin42> Manchester was pretty manic
[17:10] <popey> yeah, wasn't much in aldershot
[17:10] <popey> although the shops there aren't exactly great ⍨
[17:11]  * popey went to see Paddington
[17:12] <zmoylan-pi> did you bring a parent along for the gritty scenes? :-P
[17:13] <diddledan> I heard people have been bemoaning about paddington
[17:13] <diddledan> something along the lines of "he's scruffy"
[17:13] <Guest99956>  hi guys, using gnome 3.12 installed via ppa on ubuntu 14.04. since the upgrade of gnome i cant use the trint screen button. and the  "change desktop background" is missing form the right click option, can any one help pls
[17:14] <zmoylan-pi> is there a way to wear a duffle coat and not look scruffy? :-)
[17:17]  * penguin42 grumbles at a 500 on beeb radio4
[17:18] <zmoylan-pi> they're killing off some of their services now, aren't they and pushing towards their iplayer thingie
[17:18] <diddledan> a 500?
[17:20] <penguin42> diddledan: server error
[17:20] <penguin42> diddledan: http://static.bbci.co.uk/programmes/2.98.0/img/error/500.gif
[17:20] <diddledan> on the radio?
[17:20] <penguin42> yes
[17:20] <diddledan> er..
[17:21] <diddledan> how?
[17:21] <penguin42> diddledan: No, I mean on their online radio programmer
[17:21] <penguin42> program
[17:22] <diddledan> o_O
[17:22] <diddledan> I'm confused
[17:24] <diddledan> so every male geek's fantasy woman has written a book: http://feliciadaybook.com/
[17:24] <popey> speak for yourself
[17:24] <diddledan> teehe
[17:24] <diddledan> e
[17:24]  * zmoylan-pi quibbles the use of the word 'every'
[17:27] <ali1234> does anyne use geany?
[17:28] <ali1234> how do i make it recognise my source files automatically?
[17:52] <zmoylan-pi> right click on the files and change the association?
[17:52] <zmoylan-pi> depends on the file manager really
[17:52] <diddledan> I think he means in the project explorer
[17:52] <zmoylan-pi> ah, my bad
[18:07] <ali1234> yeah, i wanted it to show all the files in my project, not just the ones currently open
[18:08] <ali1234> but it doesn't seem to wowrk that way
[18:09] <ali1234> how do i make it does cmake out-of-source builds?
[21:29] <ali1234> "pointer smuggling" lol
[21:30] <ali1234> you've got to love C++...
[21:51] <penguin42> pointer smuggling?
[22:00] <ali1234> penguin42: in OOP you can make classes that can't be instantiated in normal ways, like singletons with private constructors
[22:00] <penguin42> you mean that can only be constructed by children or friends or something?
[22:00] <ali1234> or by a static factory method
[22:01] <ali1234> but due to C++ being how it is, there's often a way to break it and get a pointer to the underlying object
[22:02] <ali1234> and then delete it
[22:04] <penguin42> got an example?
[22:05] <ali1234> no
[22:05] <penguin42> no prob
[22:05]  * penguin42 hasn't done C++ for about a year, and I never got into very complex tricks
[22:06] <ali1234> i was just reading stack exchange and someone mentioned "pointer smuggling"
[22:06] <ali1234> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17134925/how-to-force-only-smart-pointers-instance-for-a-class
[22:06] <penguin42> the quick search I did for that came up with stuff for smuggling flags in pointers no tsmuggling pointers
[22:08] <ali1234> i wonder if this stuff is any easier in C#
[22:10] <ali1234> i've just implemented what is essentially a state machine where each state is a class
[22:11] <ali1234> and each state returns a new state object which is the next state
[22:11] <ali1234> but only when it is finished
[22:11] <ali1234> and also you can have transition states where the previous and next state are active at the same time
[22:11] <ali1234> this required smart pointers in order for things to get deleted
[22:13] <SuperEngineer> sounds like you just invented Aerica!  Too late, mate, it's all ready there!
[22:14] <ali1234> what is Aerica?
[22:14] <SuperEngineer> exactly
[22:14] <daftykins> America perhaps
[22:14]  * daftykins turns up the SuperEngineer decoder :D
[22:15] <SuperEngineer> [though some *do* call it America, admittedly]
[22:15] <ali1234> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerican_Empire
[22:19] <ali1234> so anyway the benefit of all this is i can define classes like TitleScreen or LoadingScreen and they all extend from the same base
[22:19] <ali1234> and transition effects like Wipe also extend the same base
[22:20] <ali1234> and when a particular screen is finished you just make it return Wipe(this, next)
[22:20] <ali1234> and you get a wipe. simple, but really annoying to implement that one base class
[22:36] <SuperEngineer> yup, definitely sounds like Aerica to me!
[22:36] <SuperEngineer> ;)