[01:57] bluesabre, Can we sync xfce4-notes-plugin? [03:04] Unit193: this is what happens here when opening 4 terms consecutively: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-2014-12-14-040343.php [03:04] Heh, weird terminals. :P [03:04] But yeah, that's what's supposed to. Mine all just follow the first two now. :P [03:05] well not sure what's up with that [03:05] you're sure it's related to corner tiling? [03:06] like, could you post a before/after of opening 4 terms? === meetingology` is now known as meetingology === J21_ is now known as J21 === gridcube__ is now known as GridNet === lderan_ is now known as lderan [10:55] morning everyone [11:11] bluesabre: gah, i guess we have to fix xdg-screensaver. for resuming the screensaver it runs "xset s default > /dev/null" instead of restoring the previous value, so we always end up with "600" afterwards (that's the bug elfy discovered) [11:48] good morning everyone [11:49] hello bluesabre [11:49] hey knome [11:50] morning guys [11:50] hye ochosi [11:50] (and gals, in case there are any lurking) [11:51] btw, https://www.fsf.org/news/fsf-commences-review-of-high-priority-free-software-projects-list-your-input-is-needed [11:51] Aka, "the dead list"? [11:51] eh :P [11:51] morning all [11:51] hey Unit193, elfy [11:52] weird, bluesabre says "morning" and suddenly everyone pops up... [11:52] * ochosi is wondering what he did wrong [11:52] :D [11:52] ochosi: At least I read it. [11:52] must mean I have a todo list [11:54] ochosi, maybe your morning was too early ;) [11:54] bluesabre: i'm not sure what to do about xdg-screensaver btw, i mean yeah, we could patch it to get the current value and save it to a temp file or something, but it's gonna be ugly and might introduce depends on stuff like sed [11:54] its because it wasn't a "good" morning [11:55] crap, yeah, now i see it :) [11:55] ochosi: yeah, that's going to be the way to go [11:55] well thanks for teaching me a lesson [11:55] how many media-players really use xdg-screensaver? [11:56] just drop a xdg-screensaver.tmp in ~/.cache [11:56] yeah, prolly [11:56] ochosi: lol [11:57] bluesabre: This isn't a good morning either, he was more accurate. [11:57] being too accurate often doesn't get you any friends [11:57] :P [11:57] Unit193: I was trying to help folks forget about the pains of this morning [11:57] :P [11:58] rrrrright, bluesabre, savior of the pain-ridden [11:58] * ochosi totally buys it [11:58] heh [11:59] ochosi: needs to set up xubuntu-softy for bluesabre [11:59] well there has to be people with pain since ochosi uses the whip so often [11:59] lol [11:59] I think its probably safe to remove the xfce-4.6 migration code from the notes-plugin now, eh? [12:00] elfy: huhu [12:00] haha [12:00] we've had two LTSs since it was added [12:00] wow, that really is still there? [12:00] i'd join -softy with bluesabre [12:00] bluesabre: yeah, drop it [12:01] it's so great to have a person with upload rights to our own packages who is available often... thanks bluesabre! [12:01] I can't join -softy. [12:02] +100 [12:02] err, i meant: knome: +100 [12:07] :) [12:08] elfy: btw, i fixed that window shading bug with intelligent hiding [12:09] ochosi: nice, what did you end up doing to fix it? [12:09] cool - I still haven't seen that here though [12:09] bluesabre: I sent him my desktop :D [12:10] elfy: it's attached to the bugreport you submitted upstream for review [12:10] bluesabre: used libwnck to query the active window's state, and if shaded, added an xlib call to check the size of the window frame [12:10] nice [12:11] yeah, i'm surprised it works :p [12:11] that XGetWindowProperty call still looks like black magic to me tbh [12:12] what was it about libwnck ofourdan said? [12:13] he doesn't want it as a (optional) depend for xfwm4 [12:13] but panel is ok? [12:13] which is understandable though [12:13] ochosi: sorry - confused - was sonfusing shading/rolling up with your thing that you see [12:13] yeah [12:13] okay, good [12:13] elfy: you mean with the corner tiling bug? [12:13] yep [12:13] oh wow, spooky... [12:13] I'm on song now :D [12:14] the very moment i mentioned "corner tiling" in here, i received an email by cedric about it [12:14] ha ha ha [12:14] hah [12:15] ochosi: as soon as the fix arrives here I'll check it out :) [12:18] yeah, i know it works, but i want olivier to review it [12:18] he seems to one with the most profound X knowledge [12:19] bluesabre: what do you have on your menu today? anything i should join in? [12:20] ochosi, syncing the notes plugin, then something for a bit (not sure yet), and heading back to Louisville for more hunting today [12:20] ah righty [12:20] we think we finally found a place we like, going to hopefully make a decision today [12:20] still the apartment [12:20] * ochosi knocks on wood [12:21] so the "something" could be greeter or whatever i guess? [12:21] saw you did some merges there btw, thanks a bunch [12:22] Guess I need to sub xnox to the merge. [12:22] yup [12:22] Unit193: which merge? [12:22] i was wondering why you didn't ask for his review too [12:22] ochosi: yeah, probably [12:22] ubiquity panel [12:22] gotcha [12:22] think I was tagged on that [12:22] bluesabre: what's going on with the black screen at try/install business ? [12:23] * elfy has missed what's been going on there [12:23] elfy: I think we're going to stop using xfdesktop and switch to feh to fix that issue at try/install [12:23] elfy: http://paste.openstack.org/show/EMBITDOrfqns9GAt4E0v/ would technically fix it. :P [12:23] or that [12:23] Unit193: thanks .... [12:23] :D [12:24] bluesabre: thanks for a reply that makes sense to me :D [12:24] bluesabre: Well, we'd actually either start using feh or start using xfdesktop. :P [12:24] yup, what he said ^ [12:24] :) [12:24] :) [12:31] Noskcaj: Synced the notes plugin [12:32] cool [12:33] btw, if you're not gonna need i might try myself some cairo+xlib drawing (trying to replace that oldschool frame xfwm4 draws when moving/resizing windows with something more appealing) [12:33] but i can also look into the greeter stuff with you, if that's what you wanna look at next [12:35] no need, I should be able to handle the merges [12:35] ok cool [13:16] bluesabre: btw, s/easy-in-out/ease-in-out/ [13:17] we should rename that before merging ;) [14:11] ali1234: can you explain this glitch http://media.cdn.ubuntu-de.org/forum/attachments/20/49/7202928-out-4.ogx ? [14:11] it's supposed to be Xubuntu [14:13] just tell the guy/gal to disable showing the window content on resizing ;) [14:15] too easy [14:15] but I'll suggest it [14:16] it looks like a libreoffice/driver specific problem [14:16] from my pov it could be anything from the graphics driver not doing the redraws or LO itself [14:16] so there's not that much you can do about that if it's that [14:17] indeed, but maybe ali1234 knows something about this :) [14:32] i would guess that wiwndow is not supposed to be resized [14:33] so it does not handle the resize event [14:33] and doesn't redraw itself if it happens [14:34] ali1234: something like resizing a window beyond its max size? [14:35] the max size of the content I mean [15:21] ochosi, ali1234: problem solved by installing libreoffice-gtk [15:46] pleia2: Again, http://netrunner-mag.com/best-xfce-distro-of-2014/ [17:59] drc: nice, thanks [18:00] you still want them here if/when I see them? [18:00] drc: yes please :) [18:00] "Xubuntu is all about Xubuntu. It’s focused, and over the years, this has helped transform it from a hack into a fine swan, gliding above the Open Source Lake." [18:00] go us [18:00] Done and Done. [18:06] You do know what's gong to happen if you slack off for release...red meat time :)