[01:57] <Noskcaj> bluesabre, Can we sync xfce4-notes-plugin?
[03:04] <ochosi> Unit193: this is what happens here when opening 4 terms consecutively: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-2014-12-14-040343.php
[03:04] <Unit193> Heh, weird terminals. :P
[03:04] <Unit193> But yeah, that's what's supposed to.  Mine all just follow the first two now. :P
[03:05] <ochosi> well not sure what's up with that
[03:05] <ochosi> you're sure it's related to corner tiling?
[03:06] <ochosi> like, could you post a before/after of opening 4 terms?
[10:55] <ochosi> morning everyone
[11:11] <ochosi> bluesabre: gah, i guess we have to fix xdg-screensaver. for resuming the screensaver it runs "xset s default > /dev/null" instead of restoring the previous value, so we always end up with "600" afterwards (that's the bug elfy discovered)
[11:48] <bluesabre> good morning everyone
[11:49] <knome> hello bluesabre 
[11:49] <bluesabre> hey knome
[11:50] <ochosi> morning guys
[11:50] <knome> hye ochosi 
[11:50] <ochosi> (and gals, in case there are any lurking)
[11:51] <knome> btw, https://www.fsf.org/news/fsf-commences-review-of-high-priority-free-software-projects-list-your-input-is-needed
[11:51] <Unit193> Aka, "the dead list"?
[11:51] <knome> eh :P
[11:51] <elfy> morning all 
[11:51] <knome> hey Unit193, elfy 
[11:52] <ochosi> weird, bluesabre says "morning" and suddenly everyone pops up...
[11:52]  * ochosi is wondering what he did wrong
[11:52] <knome> :D
[11:52] <Unit193> ochosi: At least I read it.
[11:52] <bluesabre> must mean I have a todo list
[11:54] <knome> ochosi, maybe your morning was too early ;)
[11:54] <ochosi> bluesabre: i'm not sure what to do about xdg-screensaver btw, i mean yeah, we could patch it to get the current value and save it to a temp file or something, but it's gonna be ugly and might introduce depends on stuff like sed
[11:54] <bluesabre> its because it wasn't a "good" morning
[11:55] <ochosi> crap, yeah, now i see it :)
[11:55] <bluesabre> ochosi: yeah, that's going to be the way to go
[11:55] <ochosi> well thanks for teaching me a lesson
[11:55] <ochosi> how many media-players really use xdg-screensaver?
[11:56] <bluesabre> just drop a xdg-screensaver.tmp in ~/.cache
[11:56] <ochosi> yeah, prolly
[11:56] <elfy> ochosi: lol 
[11:57] <Unit193> bluesabre: This isn't a good morning either, he was more accurate.
[11:57] <knome> being too accurate often doesn't get you any friends
[11:57] <knome> :P
[11:57] <bluesabre> Unit193: I was trying to help folks forget about the pains of this morning
[11:57] <bluesabre> :P
[11:58] <ochosi> rrrrright, bluesabre, savior of the pain-ridden
[11:58]  * ochosi totally buys it
[11:58] <elfy> heh
[11:59] <elfy> ochosi: needs to set up xubuntu-softy for bluesabre 
[11:59] <knome> well there has to be people with pain since ochosi uses the whip so often
[11:59] <bluesabre> lol
[11:59] <bluesabre> I think its probably safe to remove the xfce-4.6 migration code from the notes-plugin now, eh?
[12:00] <ochosi> elfy: huhu
[12:00] <knome> haha
[12:00] <bluesabre> we've had two LTSs since it was added
[12:00] <ochosi> wow, that really is still there?
[12:00] <knome> i'd join -softy with bluesabre 
[12:00] <ochosi> bluesabre: yeah, drop it
[12:01] <knome> it's so great to have a person with upload rights to our own packages who is available often... thanks bluesabre!
[12:01] <Unit193> I can't join -softy.
[12:02] <ochosi> +100
[12:02] <ochosi> err, i meant: knome: +100
[12:07] <bluesabre> :)
[12:08] <ochosi> elfy: btw, i fixed that window shading bug with intelligent hiding
[12:09] <bluesabre> ochosi: nice, what did you end up doing to fix it?
[12:09] <elfy> cool - I still haven't seen that here though
[12:09] <elfy> bluesabre: I sent him my desktop :D
[12:10] <ochosi> elfy: it's attached to the bugreport you submitted upstream for review
[12:10] <ochosi> bluesabre: used libwnck to query the active window's state, and if shaded, added an xlib call to check the size of the window frame
[12:10] <bluesabre> nice
[12:11] <ochosi> yeah, i'm surprised it works :p
[12:11] <ochosi> that XGetWindowProperty call still looks like black magic to me tbh
[12:12] <knome> what was it about libwnck ofourdan said?
[12:13] <ochosi> he doesn't want it as a (optional) depend for xfwm4
[12:13] <knome> but panel is ok?
[12:13] <ochosi> which is understandable though
[12:13] <elfy> ochosi: sorry - confused - was sonfusing shading/rolling up with your thing that you see
[12:13] <ochosi> yeah
[12:13] <knome> okay, good
[12:13] <ochosi> elfy: you mean with the corner tiling bug?
[12:13] <elfy> yep
[12:13] <ochosi> oh wow, spooky...
[12:13] <elfy> I'm on song now :D
[12:14] <ochosi> the very moment i mentioned "corner tiling" in here, i received an email by cedric about it
[12:14] <elfy> ha ha ha 
[12:14] <knome> hah
[12:15] <elfy> ochosi: as soon as the fix arrives here I'll check it out :)
[12:18] <ochosi> yeah, i know it works, but i want olivier to review it
[12:18] <ochosi> he seems to one with the most profound X knowledge
[12:19] <ochosi> bluesabre: what do you have on your menu today? anything i should join in?
[12:20] <bluesabre> ochosi, syncing the notes plugin, then something for a bit (not sure yet), and heading back to Louisville for more hunting today
[12:20] <ochosi> ah righty
[12:20] <bluesabre> we think we finally found a place we like, going to hopefully make a decision today
[12:20] <ochosi> still the apartment
[12:20]  * ochosi knocks on wood
[12:21] <ochosi> so the "something" could be greeter or whatever i guess?
[12:21] <ochosi> saw you did some merges there btw, thanks a bunch
[12:22] <Unit193> Guess I need to sub xnox to the merge.
[12:22] <ochosi> yup
[12:22] <bluesabre> Unit193: which merge?
[12:22] <ochosi> i was wondering why you didn't ask for his review too
[12:22] <bluesabre> ochosi: yeah, probably
[12:22] <ochosi> ubiquity panel
[12:22] <bluesabre> gotcha
[12:22] <bluesabre> think I was tagged on that
[12:22] <elfy> bluesabre: what's going on with the black screen at try/install business ? 
[12:23]  * elfy has missed what's been going on there
[12:23] <bluesabre> elfy: I think we're going to stop using xfdesktop and switch to feh to fix that issue at try/install
[12:23] <Unit193> elfy: http://paste.openstack.org/show/EMBITDOrfqns9GAt4E0v/ would technically fix it. :P
[12:23] <bluesabre> or that
[12:23] <elfy> Unit193: thanks .... 
[12:23] <bluesabre> :D
[12:24] <elfy> bluesabre: thanks for a reply that makes sense to me :D
[12:24] <Unit193> bluesabre: Well, we'd actually either start using feh or start using xfdesktop. :P
[12:24] <ochosi> yup, what he said ^
[12:24] <bluesabre> :)
[12:24] <ochosi> :)
[12:31] <bluesabre> Noskcaj: Synced the notes plugin
[12:32] <ochosi> cool
[12:33] <ochosi> btw, if you're not gonna need i might try myself some cairo+xlib drawing (trying to replace that oldschool frame xfwm4 draws when moving/resizing windows with something more appealing)
[12:33] <ochosi> but i can also look into the greeter stuff with you, if that's what you wanna look at next
[12:35] <bluesabre> no need, I should be able to handle the merges
[12:35] <ochosi> ok cool
[13:16] <ochosi> bluesabre: btw, s/easy-in-out/ease-in-out/
[13:17] <ochosi> we should rename that before merging ;)
[14:11] <brainwash> ali1234: can you explain this glitch http://media.cdn.ubuntu-de.org/forum/attachments/20/49/7202928-out-4.ogx ?
[14:11] <brainwash> it's supposed to be Xubuntu
[14:13] <ochosi> just tell the guy/gal to disable showing the window content on resizing ;)
[14:15] <brainwash> too easy
[14:15] <brainwash> but I'll suggest it
[14:16] <brainwash> it looks like a libreoffice/driver specific problem
[14:16] <ochosi> from my pov it could be anything from the graphics driver not doing the redraws or LO itself
[14:16] <ochosi> so there's not that much you can do about that if it's that
[14:17] <brainwash> indeed, but maybe ali1234 knows something about this :)
[14:32] <ali1234> i would guess that wiwndow is not supposed to be resized
[14:33] <ali1234> so it does not handle the resize event
[14:33] <ali1234> and doesn't redraw itself if it happens
[14:34] <brainwash> ali1234: something like resizing a window beyond its max size?
[14:35] <brainwash> the max size of the content I mean
[15:21] <brainwash> ochosi, ali1234: problem solved by installing libreoffice-gtk
[15:46] <drc> pleia2: Again, http://netrunner-mag.com/best-xfce-distro-of-2014/
[17:59] <pleia2> drc: nice, thanks
[18:00] <drc> you still want them here if/when I see them?
[18:00] <pleia2> drc: yes please :)
[18:00] <pleia2> "Xubuntu is all about Xubuntu. It’s focused, and over the years, this has helped transform it from a hack into a fine swan, gliding above the Open Source Lake."
[18:00] <pleia2> go us
[18:00] <drc> Done and Done.
[18:06] <drc> You do know what's gong to happen if you slack off for release...red meat time :)