[00:00] <explodingmango> I guess PPAs tend to have RSS feeds, but that tells you about updates to the entire PPA instead of just the 2 or 3 packages you installed from the list
[00:00] <explodingmango> oops, *got a question
[00:00] <daftykins> explodingmango: no, just bookmark the page maybe
[00:01] <explodingmango> hm, dang. oh well
[00:26] <Loshki> explodingmango: what happens if you "pin" it? Do you still get notifications?
[00:36] <Starcraftmazter> hi
[00:36] <Starcraftmazter> i have a friend with a HD that was encrypted using the ubuntu installer, and it isnt booting due to some hardware changes to the computer
[00:36] <Starcraftmazter> how can he recover his encrypted data?
[00:36] <user1> hi all, does xubuntu update itself automatically
[00:38] <EriC^^> Starcraftmazter: he can boot a live usb and decrypt the partition manually
[00:38] <Starcraftmazter> EriC^^:
[00:38] <Starcraftmazter> what tool can decrypt it?
[00:38] <EriC^^> Starcraftmazter: http://askubuntu.com/questions/63594/mount-encrypted-volumes-from-command-line
[00:41] <NegativeFlare> user1: no
[00:43] <basketballlll> how can i download the video from http://portal.stretchinternet.com/fpuadmin/full.htm?eventId=190009&streamType=video
[00:43] <NegativeFlare> basketballlll: I'm not sure this is Ubuntu related.
[00:43] <daftykins> that is not an ubuntu question
[00:43] <daftykins> basketballlll: you can't just use this channel as your "how to do every single thing with a computer" resource
[00:44] <basketballlll> do u know of a channel
[00:44] <daftykins> lol
[00:44] <SchrodingersScat> maybe #wget ?
[00:48] <Sachiru> Query: Does anyone know of a way to convert an existing 14.04 Lubuntu/Ubuntu installation so that it resides on an LVM volume instead of directly on the disk?
[00:49] <user1> on mint 17 u had a shield saying checking for updates and then green tick. is there anything like that on ubuntu
[00:49] <daftykins> yes the update manager which pops up when there are updates
[00:49] <NegativeFlare> But Ubuntu still doesn't update on its own.
[00:50] <daftykins> that's a good thing
[00:50] <daftykins> although i think you're wrong, i've seen auto updated mechanisms
[00:50] <daftykins> -d
[00:50] <Loshki> Sachiru: apart from the obvious? Create an LVM volume and and copy the data to it?
[00:51] <user1> ok cheers
[00:51] <Sachiru> Loshki: It's root
[00:51] <Sachiru> Root partition, boot partition, etc to LVM
[00:52] <user1> hey daft xbuntu slighly laggy. i guess its me lappy tho
[00:52] <Loshki> NegativeFlare: I thought the update manager wakes up periodically, if you configure it right. And there's always cron I suppose. Some updates require manual interaction.
[00:52] <Loshki> Sachiru: do it all from a live CD...
[00:53] <NegativeFlare> Loshki: it does by default. It only wakes up and tells you have updates available. And to my knowledge it doesn't update packages automatically.
[00:53] <NegativeFlare> Now as for me, I've disabled update manager completely. I find it rather annoying.
[00:53] <Loshki> NegativeFlare: that manual interaction thing again...
[00:53] <NegativeFlare> Loshki: What about it? I'm confused.
[00:53] <daftykins> yeah what's the issue?
[00:53] <NegativeFlare> I know some packages require user input.
[00:54] <NegativeFlare> package updates*
[00:54] <user1> would the weather in the corner cause xbuntu go laggy
[00:54] <Loshki> NegativeFlare: I'm saying you can't always upgrade unattended, because some packages require user input
[00:55] <NegativeFlare> Loshki: Oh, I knew that already.
[00:55] <kostkon> user1, nah
[00:56] <user1> whas the browser choice for linux users
[00:56] <daftykins> one that works
[00:56] <NegativeFlare> user1: That differs between users
[00:56] <user1> usally i use firefox
[00:56] <SchrodingersScat> !info links2 | user1
[00:56] <Loshki> user1: chromium, firefox, opera...
[00:57] <NegativeFlare> I'm happy with chrome, since they have a 64bit build of it out now for Linux.
[00:57] <Guest67819> What are the default permission granted to directories in /home/USER?
[00:57] <user1> is chrome faster on linux then ff
[00:58] <daftykins> with that nasty SiS graphics of yours, you won't see any benefits :)
[00:58] <Guest67819> I had to chmod all Pictures and Music to 777 to transfer them. I want to change them back once the transfer is done
[00:58] <Ben64> Guest67819: 755 most likely
[00:58] <NegativeFlare> user1: Depends on the system.
[00:58] <Loshki> user1: about the same. I've found chrome sound/flash buggy, irritating but not fatal.
[00:58] <Guest67819> Ben64, thanks! I am backing them up to an external HD, so when I complete my re-install, I can do chmod to 755?
[00:58] <Ben64> Guest67819: you should never ever have to chmod to 777, you definitely don't need to do that to transfer files. you're doing it wrong
[00:59] <user1> ok cool this ubuntu running sweet tho
[00:59] <Guest67819> Ben64, doing a regular drag +drop kept telling me I didn't have permissions. Rsync was skipping the same files, cp -rpv was not giving me the same file size
[01:00] <Guest67819> even with sudo enforced.
[01:00] <user1> can i give the xbuntu bit of colour everything grey
[01:01] <Ben64> Guest67819: you shouldn't have to use sudo to copy to an external drive. you should have checked permissions on the exact files causing you problems instead of chmodding everything
[01:01] <NegativeFlare> !themes | user1
[01:02] <Guest67819> Ben64, but if I chmod everything back, I should be OK, right? It appears that 80% of subdirectories under Music, Documents, and Pictures were not copying correctly. You're talking look at 100+ subdirectories, plus their files.
[01:02] <just_jon> /+++*/
[01:02] <just_jon> ////+
[01:02] <user1> thank u do all themes work on xbuntu
[01:03] <just_jon> +rf87d6hg7y9vuigidhnh,tku*-7129287//4*+/1285988/*-+/*-/*/*
[01:03] <Hexagon> Hello just_jon
[01:03] <NegativeFlare> user1: Xubuntu* And the themes for Ubuntu aren't compatible with Ubuntu, there's a difference in the environment.
[01:03] <Ben64> Guest67819: or look at one to see what the actual problem is, instead of fishing with dynamite
[01:03] <NegativeFlare> just_jon: Keyboard problems?
[01:03] <NegativeFlare> blah, Excuse me. I can't type today xD
[01:04] <Guest67819> Ben64, touche. How do I check one specific directory?
[01:04] <user1> can i get themes for xbuntu then
[01:04] <Ben64> Guest67819: ls -l
[01:04] <NegativeFlare> user1: xfce-look.org
[01:04] <NegativeFlare> user1: xfce4-look.org
[01:05] <user1> thank u
[01:05] <user1> thanks mate
[01:06] <Guest67819> Ben64, drwx------  is what I see for the blocked ones. drwxr-xr-x and -rw-r--r-- appear to copy OK
[01:07] <Guest67819> Ben64, obviously, i don't know what I'm looking at, I just know 777 is giving me exact copies which is what I need.
[01:08] <Ben64> !permissions | Guest67819
[01:08] <retroispresto> oops
[01:09] <Guest67819> Ben64, thanks. Also, does my plan of just 777 now and then 755 later not work?
[01:09] <Guest67819> Its really only me using this computer, so permissions aren't terrifically of concern, but I would like to do it right.
[01:09] <Ben64> Guest67819: because its wrong. also, what directories are drwx------ and who is the owner?
[01:10] <jade_>  is there a good way to host a website from my computer to a cloud server that can feed it to the web?
[01:10] <Guest67819> Ben64, owner should be my regular user, and they're just different directories, not anything different than the one next to them. They're not special or copied from somewhere else or anything. Most music was ripped straight from CD, and the documents were all created on Linux, using LibreOffice (no no sudo, etc)
[01:11] <Ben64> Guest67819: the ls -l command tells you this information.
[01:11] <Guest67819> Ben64, right. You want to know the exact directory names?
[01:11] <Ben64> no.. the owner
[01:12] <retroispresto> IdleOne: go to hell
[01:12] <Guest67819> Ben64, not sure. I'll brb
[01:12] <user1> whats gtk 2.x
[01:15] <Angeles4four> ubuntu won't boot after an nvidia drive rupdate.  here is my analysis of my dmesg and what i've tried to fix my broken package tool: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2256774&p=13187409#post13187409
[01:16] <user1> erm after download a theme how do i install it thanks
[01:16] <applepi> So, something has my entire system initialization running twice on boot..  I tried to track it down what the second thing was by temporarily moving /etc/rc.local and see what complains,
[01:17] <applepi> Er, sorry, I moved /etc/init.d/rcS
[01:17] <applepi> Anyway, I'm getting '/proc/self/fd/9: 28: /proc/self/fd/9: /etc/init.d/rcS: not found' twice..
[01:18] <applepi> Does anyone know why this might be happening or what this process is?
[01:20] <InFlames> hello, i have a gigabyte p35w v2 and am having trouble with my sound, i've been able to do some weird combintions of muting via function keys and unmuting via menu option, can someone tell me how i can determine my sound card?
[01:21] <Bashing-om> user1: https://wiki.xfce.org/start?id=howto/install_new_themes .
[01:21] <Ricky15> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2256776
[01:21] <Ricky15> can someone help please
[01:21] <user1> hi bashing how u been and thank u
[01:22] <bubbasaures> Ricky15, Have you checked the sum of the iso?
[01:23] <Ricky15> bubbasaures: how do I do that?
[01:23] <bubbasaures> !md5sum | Ricky15
[01:23] <Ricky15> bubbasaures: yes
[01:23] <Ricky15> bubbasaures: & of the cd , yes
[01:23] <Bashing-om> Ricky15: MBR partiitioning, and hitting the 4 partition limit ? .. look -> sudo fdisk -lu <- from a liveDVD(USB) .
[01:24] <batbird> have there been any exposed ubuntu 0-days lately?
[01:24] <batbird> Seems so.
[01:24] <Ricky15> Bashing-om: sorry ?
[01:24] <bubbasaures> how do I do that to I did that, very strange
[01:24] <Bashing-om> user1: Doing well, just struggeling right on along.
[01:24] <k1l> batbird: ?
[01:24] <Ricky15> kk I'll do that now
[01:24] <user1> i cant work out the theme thing
[01:26] <Bashing-om> Ricky15: Depending on the partitioning schecme there is a 4 partition limit on the hard drive due to the ability to adress more in the partition table. Checj and see how/what partitions you presently have .
[01:26] <batbird> k1l: I run nothing but stuff I've gotten via apt-get install (no 3rd part sources). Suddenly my computer crashed, and a process with a random number as its name is crawling the net for emails.
[01:27] <user1> an anyone work this out   Extract the theme in ~/.themes    System wide installation in ${sysprefix}/share/themes
[01:27] <k1l> batbird: ubuntu is not responible for your configuration and use of the system :/
[01:28] <Guest67819> Ben64, I'm not sure I understand the question. I never created any file as root. Only as the user found in the directory /home/Jackson
[01:28] <Guest67819> So user Jackson created them all
[01:28] <batbird> k1l: I know. I mean, I'm a regular Ubuntu user, but got exploited somehow. I'm paranoid as you can see (using tor).
[01:29] <Ben64> Guest67819: yes that would be the assumption, however since you had problems copying a directory set as 700, which would supposedly give your user full control over it, i'm not so sure
[01:29] <Guest67819> Ben64, drwx------  5 1000 1000      4096 Dec  8 21:21 Money
[01:30] <Guest67819> Ben64, drwxr-xr-x  2 1000 1000      4096 Apr  3  2013 Online_Purchases
[01:30] <Guest67819> there are 2 examples, one I can't touch, the other I can.
[01:30] <Ben64> Guest67819: 1000? did you do "ls -l" or some other command
[01:31] <Guest67819> Ben64, that's ls -l
[01:31] <Ben64> Guest67819: then that isn't owned by your user
[01:31] <Ben64> Guest67819: what is the output of "id"
[01:31] <Guest67819> Ben64, it is also interesting that a lot of directories are set to drwxr-xr-x  but most files are -rw-r--r--
[01:32] <Ben64> yep that is normal
[01:32] <Ben64> 755 for directories, 644 for files. directories need the executable bit set to work properly
[01:32] <Guest67819> Ben64, uid=999(qwerty) gid=999(qwerty) groups=999(qwerty),4(adm),24(cdrom),27(sudo),30(dip),46(plugdev),107(lpadmin),115(sambashare)
[01:32] <Guest67819> Ben64, but I'm also looking at the partition from a live CD
[01:32] <applepi> should I perhaps try removing upstart and have it only using systemd or something maybe?
[01:32] <Ben64> Guest67819: why  is your user 999 and named qwerty?
[01:33] <Guest67819> Ben64, like I said, I'm currently running in live CD
[01:33] <Ben64> Guest67819: not an ubuntu one...
[01:34] <Guest67819> LXLE, some sort of Lubuntu derivitave
[01:34] <Ben64> Guest67819:  nothing but ubuntu is supported here, and if you want to be able to browse directories you don't own, make sure you have them set to 755
[01:35] <Guest67819> Ben64, sorry. I thought it could cover *buntu derivatives as well. I know it's not the right way, but what should I re-set everything to after I do 777? 755?
[01:36] <Ben64> Guest67819: again, DON'T do 777
[01:36] <Guest67819> Ben64, well, it's too late on other directories!! Is there a way to undo that?
[01:36] <Ben64> pretty sure i explained that a few times too... <Ben64> 755 for directories, 644 for files. directories need the executable bit set to work properly
[01:37] <ricku> hey, what was the command to check my partation spaces again Bashing-om ?
[01:37] <Guest67819> Ben64, OK, thanks. I don't know how to do that without doing each directory / file individually.
[01:38] <Ben64> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18817744/chmod-all-files-to-644-and-all-folders-to-755-of-a-dictory
[01:38] <k1l> ricku: sudo fdisk -l
[01:40] <ricku> k1l: what does this mean ? http://fpaste.org/159716/07549141/
[01:41] <k1l> ricku: you got already 4 primary partitions on the 1TB drive. so you cant make there any more partitions
[01:41] <ChristopherS> Hello. I can't seem to enter normal Android on my device, however the bootloader is still intact. I am trying to install Ubuntu touch and I can't enter normal mode, but when I use ubuntu-device-flash it says: free space on /cache/recovery is file Could someone help?
[01:41] <Guest67819> Ben64, I really appreciate your help! I think you'll help me get all this copied and straightened out. What is the downside to doing 777 to everything?
[01:41] <D3V> ! ut
[01:41] <D3V> no no no
[01:42] <k1l> !touch | ChristopherS
[01:42] <D3V> #ubuntu-touch
[01:42] <ricku> kil: how can I remove partitions ? I just dont want to take out windows 7 everything else can go
[01:44] <ricku> squinty: you there?
[01:47] <Bashing-om> ricku: What you might do: 1 of those primary Windows partitions might be a recovery partition, copy it off to a DVD, and make that partition up as "extended" and install ubuntu into that extended partition .
[01:48] <applepi> okay, i'm lost.  i have no idea how to debug this.  does anyone have ANY ideas?
[01:48] <ricku> Bashing-om: how do I know which one is a windows partition?
[01:48] <D3V> should show ntfs ricku
[01:49] <ricku> ntfs? D3V
[01:49] <ricku> whats that
[01:49] <D3V> for partition type
[01:50] <D3V> nvm im thinking of something else
[01:52] <EriC^^> ricku: the filesystem will be ntfs most likely
[01:52] <Bashing-om> ricku: "id' 7 os Windows in MBR scheme and NTFS says this is a windows partition. Your Windows' disk utility may give ya some help as to what partition you may copy off to reuse for ubuntu.
[01:52] <EriC^^> ricku: can you paste sudo parted -l ?
[01:53] <Hexagon> Guest67819 use chmod -R
[01:54] <ricku> EriC^^: http://fpaste.org/159718/18608456/
[01:55] <ricku> EriC^^: I downloaded this program called gparted, I see windows7, system reserved, recovery and data wich should I remove ?
[01:55] <EriC^^> ricku: sudo mount /dev/sda4 /mnt
[01:56] <ricku> EriC^^: nothing happend?
[01:56] <EriC^^> ricku: i think /dev/sda4 is the recovery partition, you'll gain 10gb by deleting it, but you wont be able to boot into recovery anymore
[01:57] <noe> bashing-om here?
[01:57] <ricku> EriC^^: my original problem is that I coulden't install ubuntu 14.04 and no-one can figure out why
[01:57] <EriC^^> ricku: you'll have to use the windows "make recovery disks and wipe it" option to make disks
[01:57] <EriC^^> ricku: ls -l /mnt
[01:57] <EriC^^> ricku: what do you mean? when you install what happens
[01:58] <ricku> 7imag001.GHS 7imag002.GHS 7image.GHO System Volume Information
[01:58] <daftykins> i spy norton ghost image files
[01:58] <daftykins> .GHO
[01:58] <ricku> ricku: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2256776
[01:59] <ricku> EriC^^: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2256776
[01:59] <k1l> ricku: you cant install ubuntu because windows blocks all 4 possible primary partitions.
[02:00] <noe> I installed ubuntu on a brand new computer and I think I'm having issues with my graphics card (750 ti). I only get a purple screen when I boot the computer. Spent some time here yesterday and bashing-om suggested I check the md5sum of my .iso and check the disk for errors (I think). How does one check a live usb for errors?
[02:00] <Bashing-om> user1: This will be of help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=377397&highlight=gtkrc+tutorial .
[02:00] <daftykins> !nomodeset | noe tried this one?
[02:00] <ricku> Kil: ok, out of those 4 which should I remove ?
[02:00] <noe> yeah, tried that many times. to no avail
[02:00] <k1l> ricku: i dont know whats in them.
[02:01] <daftykins> noe: what OS did you make the flash drive with?
[02:01] <noe> Bashing-om: do you remember helping me yesterday
[02:01] <noe> Windows 7
[02:01] <daftykins> noe: what program?
[02:01] <daftykins> noe: have you hashed the ISO yet to check it was ok?
[02:02] <EriC^^> ricku: paste ls -l /mnt if you want
[02:02] <EriC^^> that's the contents of /dev/sda4
[02:02] <EriC^^> ricku: do you have a C: and D: in windows, both 500gb?
[02:02] <noe> made it with pendrive linux. Yes, checked md5sum, all was well there
[02:03] <Bashing-om> noe: Yes, I recall .. Awaiting that the .iso file is known good, and "check disks for defects" has been done.
[02:03] <daftykins> noe: which ISO did you grab?
[02:03] <ricku> EriC^^: http://fpaste.org/159724/14186090/
[02:03] <noe> how does one check disk for defects?
[02:03] <ricku> EriC^^: I don't know
[02:04] <daftykins> noe: boot menu option
[02:04] <ricku> EriC^^: I don't know
[02:04] <EriC^^> ricku: ok, boot into windows and check if you have a C: and D: each 500gb
[02:05] <daftykins> noe: here's an alternative strategy i've seen work well, if you have a motherboard with the video outputs from the on-die intel, pull out your graphics card and install with that first then boot up after.
[02:05] <EriC^^> ricku: i don't know what those .GHO files are in the last partition
[02:05] <Bashing-om> noe: Boot the liveDVD(USB), as soon as the bios screen clears depress and hold the right shift key -> language screen; escape key to accept the default -> boot options screen. One of the options here is " check disk for defects" .
[02:05] <daftykins> EriC^^: norton ghost partition clone images :)
[02:05] <EriC^^> ah i see
[02:08] <EriC^^> ricku: any idea about them?
[02:08] <EriC^^> ricku: maybe you can copy them to C: or D: and then resize the partition and install ubuntu there
[02:08] <ricku> EriC^^:  I don't know man
[02:09] <ricku> EriC^^:  I have no idea about how to do this stuff, in the past I just put the disc in press install and it worked -_-
[02:09] <noe> I'm just getting the grub menu
[02:09] <EriC^^> i wonder how those files got there
[02:11] <noe> nevermind...just not paying attention. I found it
[02:11] <EriC^^> do you have any norton recovery/cloning software?
[02:11] <ricku> im so tired of this lol , i'm just going to destroy random partitions and try to make this work im getting a new computer soon anyway
[02:11] <daftykins> ricku EriC^^ - i'd suggest booting into Windows and sharing a screenshot of the 'Computer' view followed by as you say, moving the files off the last partition
[02:11] <ricku> yeah I had nortan anti virus
[02:11] <daftykins> norton anti-virus is not norton ghost
[02:11] <daftykins> ricku: boot to Windows come back here and share a screenshot online of diskmgmt.msc
[02:12] <Bashing-om> noe: Reset in bios to boot the usb as 1st boot priority, boot the liveUSB .
[02:12] <ricku> sorry man im sick of this been at it for hours..bye & thanks for all the help
[02:13] <noe> I found "check disk for defects" and hit enter. Just a black screen now. Does this take a while?
[02:13] <daftykins> at it for hours and don't even know your partition layout
[02:13] <daftykins> hrmmm.
[02:14] <Bashing-om> noe: It will take a few minutes . maybe like 10 on a good hardware .
[02:15] <noe> ok, thanks
[02:21] <Bashing-om> noe: A totally black screen ? One should see what files are being checked as the check progresses !
[02:21] <johnb003_> anyone know if I can recieve cec commands sent from my tv over the hdmi signal?
[02:21] <noe> Bashing-om: yeah, totally black
[02:22] <noe> Bashing-om: can I check it on my windows machine somehow?
[02:26] <Bashing-om> noe: That is not a good sign. Bad burn OR no avail graphics driver ? Now, how to tell . Can you boot to terminal in the liveUSB ? At that boot options screen -> F6  key for boot options. There is presented a boot options parameter line in a pop up. remove "quiet splash" and replace with "text" with out the quotes. enter key to  continue the boot process.
[02:28] <Bashing-om> noe: Nother thought, will that liveUSB boot on the machine you are using now ?
[02:29] <noe> Bashing-om: which version of live usb should I boot to? with UEFI or without?....I assume it will boot on this machine but I'm using it to get help from you
[02:29] <daftykins> why did we abandon my graphics card removing idea exactly?
[02:30] <Bashing-om> noe: ^^ Yeah .. because I have a servier case of tunnel vision ?
[02:31] <noe> Bashing-om: huh?
[02:31] <daftykins> noe: read my line?
[02:32] <noe> Oh, I must've missed that.
[02:32] <Bashing-om> noe: daftykins had earlier suggested that we disable the PCIE card in bios and boot from the onboard grahics chip - if possible .
[02:32] <daftykins> just pull the card physically if you're comfortable with that, way easier than messing around with settings
[02:32] <noe> well, I'm down for whatever. I have no idea how to fix this so you guys tell me what to do
[02:33] <daftykins> alright, power off, pull the graphics card, connect your screen up to the onboard outputs and fire it up for install
[02:33] <noe> pull card?
[02:33] <daftykins> yeah i've said it 4 times now, what's confusing about that? :)
[02:34] <noe> I apologize. will do, gimme a minute
[02:40] <sgo11> hi, I want to disable hplip-systray.desktop which is in /etc/xdg/autostart. What I do is to create ~/.config/autostart/hplip-systray.desktop and then add 'Hidden=true' to the end of the file. but it doesn't work. any ideas? thanks.
[02:42] <Yassin-H> hi
[02:47] <Guest67819> Ben64, I really appreciate your help! I think you'll help me get all this copied and straightened out. What is the downside to doing 777 to everything?
[02:48] <asimov> .
[02:49] <Dastan> bro, how to make "send to bluetooth device" when we right click on file? Cz mine is not appear like that? im using linux mint 17.1
[02:50] <asimov> .
[02:51] <xangua> !mint | Dastan
[02:51] <Dastan> okay bro
[02:52] <daftykins> Dastan: you're on IRC, not on the street.
[02:56] <noe> So, no onboard graphics. I could probably find an old graphics card
[02:56] <daftykins> noe: it is an intel i3/i5/i7 type system yeah?
[02:57] <daftykins> noe: also you said you installed - so does that mean the live session boots up perfectly happily?
[02:57] <akio> abcd
[02:59] <noe> AMD|8-CORE FX-8350 4.0G 8M...I wouldn't say perfectly happily. had to change a setting in bios to make it go
[03:00] <daftykins> noe: reinstall disabling updates from online, it should boot then. once up, you can try installing a proper nvidia driver before updating for the first time
[03:03] <noe> ok, I'll give that a shot. Anything I should do prior to reinstalling?
[03:03] <daftykins> nope just nuke that sucker from orbit
[03:03] <daftykins> and be sure to disable updates during install
[03:04] <ElephantPunch> ^
[03:05] <ElephantPunch> You can install updates after the installation. It saves time and possibly bandwidth.
[03:05] <weng> yeah
[03:05] <weng> skip
[03:06] <OerHeks> it doesn't save time, as updates are downloaded while copying data from media
[03:07] <ElephantPunch> OerHerks, if to
[03:07] <ElephantPunch> If your installing updates after installation you can be doing something on the same machine while you wait
[03:07] <noe> daftykins: thanks
[03:08] <daftykins> no problemo
[03:08] <ICantLinux> Hopefully this is the right place to ask...has anybody else experienced odd window offset problems with Chromium processes (eg. Chrome) on 14.10?
[03:08] <ICantLinux> Visual: http://i.imgur.com/CSxGVdy.png
[03:12] <RedPenguin> hey all
[03:12] <xmetal> i have seen that (in other distros too) ... usually just minimizing and "re-maximizing" "fixes the issue
[03:13] <xmetal> ^ ICantLinux
[03:13] <RedPenguin> In Ubuntu 14.04, is there any way to stop, MouseKeys from ceasing to function until you turn them back off and on, when you have to unplug/plug back in a USB keyboard?
[03:14] <ICantLinux> I've tried that method, but with no success. Only closing a window while still maximized and restarting works.
[03:14] <ICantLinux> And even then, that's only until I attempt to maximize again.
[03:15] <xmetal> odd .. that method works for me (min than max)
[03:17] <ICantLinux> Have a hunch it's a graphics driver problem. Could it be my GPU and fglrx messing around?
[03:17] <lolcat> Is there a safe way to install the gpu?
[03:18] <daftykins> ICantLinux: what card?
[03:19] <ICantLinux> r9 280x.
[03:19] <daftykins> lolcat: no trolling ty :P
[03:19] <wisdise> ...
[03:19] <lolcat> daftykins: What?
[03:19] <wisdise> fuck
[03:19] <lolcat> Often when I try it just ends up breaking X11
[03:19] <daftykins> lolcat: installing a graphics card isn't an OS question
[03:19] <daftykins> lolcat: you might want to share more details then
[03:19] <Bashing-om> ICantLinux: What graphics card, and is a driver loaded ? pastebin the output -> sudo lshw -C display <- .
[03:21] <ICantLinux> Bashing-om: fglrx (14.201, IIRC) with an r9 280x.
[03:22] <daftykins> lolcat: do you mean you are trying to update graphics driver?
[03:22] <ICantLinux> Bashing-om: and here's the paste: http://pastebin.com/yQDNUE6m
[03:23] <lolcat> daftykins: No
[03:23] <lolcat> I am trying to install it
[03:24] <lolcat> I need the real driver, not the open-source version. I like games.
[03:24] <daftykins> lolcat: ok so what card do you have?
[03:24] <Bashing-om> ICantLinux: look'n at your http://pastebin.com/yQDNUE6m .
[03:27] <Bashing-om> ICantLinux: Looks good to me . Might try from Additional Drivers utility and see what other drivers are availabale .
[03:27] <daftykins> lolcat: graphics card type? (run "lspci" in a terminal and find the line) what've you tried, driver wise?
[03:27] <Santiago> hola
[03:28] <ICantLinux> Bashing-om: That's the thing. Everything else is perfectly functional, and the installed driver is most certainly the Ubuntu-specific fglrx one.
[03:28] <Chuck_Norris> !es | Santiago
[03:28] <ICantLinux> But Chrom(ium) still freaks out.
[03:28] <Exequiel> como estan?
[03:30] <Bashing-om> ICantLinux: A real stretch here, but as it is only effected in chromium, (re-)install chromium, see if there is a change ?
[03:32] <ICantLinux> Bashing-om: Already tried, unfortunately. Not only does this affect Chrome, but also ANYTHING based off of Chromium. Atom (the editor) also has this issue :(
[03:32] <daftykins> !find hwe precise
[03:32] <daftykins> !info linux-hwe-generic precise
[03:33] <Chuck_Norris> ICantLinux:  dmesg -k --level=err,warn
[03:35] <ICantLinux> Chuck_Norris: Nothing out of the ordinary. (+ | grep fglrx). Will try updating the driver via AMD's site.
[03:38] <Chuck_Norris> ICantLinux: i am havin segfault in chromium, and i can see those segfaul in dmesg -.-  mostly when loadin youtube video or going at chrome store, i just only use Firefox :p
[03:39] <ICantLinux> Chuck_Norris: Also a FireFox user, but other apps use Chromium, so there's no escape :P
[03:46] <Chuck_Norris> ICantLinux: did you modified "Override software rendering" in  chrome://flags ?
[03:46] <ICantLinux> I have not, no.
[03:48] <Chuck_Norris> ICantLinux: i did't and i think that could be the reason for may chrome's blue screens :P if you want try enabling or disablig that option, it will use your GPU or not
[03:55] <gr1zzly_be4r> has anyone experienced locking after installing on an oldish (~2005) dell xps pc?
[03:55] <reisio> locking when
[03:55] <dts|pokeball> Gr1zzly, yes
[03:56] <dts|pokeball> ** gr1zzly_be4r
[03:56] <gr1zzly_be4r> immediately after logging in
[03:56] <gr1zzly_be4r> it just shows that there's system error and i can't click anything on the sidebar
[03:56] <gr1zzly_be4r> I looked at this http://askubuntu.com/questions/453954/gpu-lockup-during-trusty-tahr-14-04-installation
[03:56] <gr1zzly_be4r> but i can't access the menu that they're talking about
[03:58] <R13ose> How do I take a screenshot of a  whole page that has scrolling on this?
[04:00] <reisio> R13ose: hrmm?
[04:01] <gr1zzly_be4r> is there anything that i can do to fix the locking?
[04:01] <reisio> there's probably something
[04:01] <R13ose> reisio: If I have a website page that you need to scroll down to see more elements on that page.  How do I take a screenshot of all the elements on the website page?
[04:02] <gr1zzly_be4r> i think that i need to install a driver for my GPU, but how can i do that if i can't even log in?
[04:02] <reisio> R13ose: ah
[04:03] <reisio> what was the name of that apppp
[04:03] <gr1zzly_be4r> ?
[04:04] <reisio> R13ose: wkhtmltopdf
[04:04] <reisio> or a dozen other things
[04:04] <reisio> but why take a screenshot when you can just save it
[04:05] <daftykins> gr1zzly_be4r: what graphics card?
[04:05] <Bashing-om> gr1zzly_be4r: A couple of ways, a) through grub's recovery kernel (console); b) boot to terminal from grub ( edit the kernel boot parameters ) .
[04:05] <gr1zzly_be4r> one sec
[04:05] <R13ose> reisio: to show someone who is not near their desktop
[04:06] <gr1zzly_be4r> i can install stuff from grub?
[04:07] <Bashing-om> gr1zzly_be4r: no, the idea is to boot the OS through grub's recovery console ( advanced options) or boot to a terminal from grub .
[04:08] <gr1zzly_be4r> oh and then install the driver from that terminal
[04:08] <reisio> R13ose: mmm
[04:08] <gr1zzly_be4r> correct?
[04:09] <Bashing-om> gr1zzly_be4r: Yup, but see daftykins' request to know what card you have installed .
[04:11] <Parabox> anyone run xubuntu in oracle?
[04:17] <daftykins> Parabox: you mean virtualbox? be a bit more specific...
[04:17] <noe> daftykins: I seems to be working! Thank you very much for your help. Just had to "nuke it from space". Whodathought?
[04:18] <Parabox> yea sorry
[04:18] <daftykins> noe: well now, that was just step #1... so you've reached the desktop post install, but you might need to do some other things too
[04:18] <daftykins> noe: as if i'm right, updating right now might cause your install to do what the last one did (unless you've run updates in the meantime?)
[04:19] <noe> I'm sure. But it's not just a f***ing purple screen anymore
[04:19] <noe> Haven't run any updates
[04:20] <daftykins> noe: hehe, ok click the system settings ikon with the little cog on the left, then run the 'software and sources' part that the window that opens has, then switch to the additional drivers/hardware tab at the far right and see if it offers you anything
[04:20] <gr1zzly_be4r> ATI Radeon X600 SE
[04:20] <gr1zzly_be4r> that's the graphics card i have
[04:20] <daftykins> gr1zzly_be4r: ah, bad luck there i don't think that's supported by anything other than the default driver it will be using already.
[04:21] <Bashing-om> noe: daftykins Still, we do not have a driver for the 750 ti card in our repository .
[04:21] <noe> daftykins: sofware & updates?
[04:21] <gr1zzly_be4r> so if it's not working now it's not going to work at all?
[04:22] <daftykins> noe: yep that one
[04:22] <daftykins> Bashing-om: good stuff, i'm eating pasta i just made so i was just going to check the easy route first :)
[04:22] <daftykins> i did vaguely consider it was one of the unsupported cards
[04:23] <Bashing-om> gr1zzly_be4r: daftykins Is not that an old ATI card that AMD no longer supports ( ATI Radeon X600 SE ) ??
[04:24] <noe> daftykins: "No additional drivers available" but I did the first two steps from here a bit ago: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/03/install-nvidia-driver-334-21-ubuntu-linux/
[04:24] <Bashing-om> daftykins: I doing my chocolate ice cream (pasifier ) !  All these graphics issues .. !
[04:24] <daftykins> noe: yep that guide looks good :)
[04:26] <daftykins> Bashing-om: ooh that sounds good :) mmm, Q4'14 will go down as bad graphics times i think
[04:26] <abhi_cdot> hello
[04:26] <noe> It seems to be working now. I don't understand what the rest of the steps (3+) will do for me. Is the rest necessary? why?
[04:26] <daftykins> gr1zzly_be4r: getting another card would likely be a lot easier
[04:27] <gr1zzly_be4r> ok
[04:27] <daftykins> gr1zzly_be4r: though without reading logs we can't be 100% sure your problem is graphics related
[04:27] <gr1zzly_be4r> is there a way that I could get those for you?
[04:27] <daftykins> noe: yeah get that nvidia driver installed, i think updates might brick your system otherwise
[04:28] <R13ose> reisio: I found an add-on for firefox that does this
[04:29] <noe> daftykins: doing steps 1 and 2 didn't install an nvidia driver?
[04:29] <daftykins> noe: oh yeah i misread it the first time i saw that... did you reboot and run nvidia-settings since? i don't think nvidia-319 supports your card 0o
[04:30] <reisio> R13ose: gj
[04:30] <R13ose> thanks
[04:35] <daftykins> noe: how's it looking?
[04:36] <noe> rebooted (a couple of times to be sure). run nvidia-settings?
[04:37] <daftykins> yeah, it's the program to confirm things are working
[04:37] <daftykins> noe: it also wouldn't hurt to fire up a terminal and run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log" so i can take a glance at what driver is in use and working
[04:41] <noe> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9524178
[04:42] <daftykins> noe: looks good, as per line 90 it's using the nvidia-331 driver
[04:42] <daftykins> Bashing-om: hrmm looks like the 331 likes the 750Ti after all
[04:43] <daftykins> noe: if you're feeling brave you could upgrade now ;)
[04:43] <abhi_cdot> abcd
[04:43] <daftykins> abhi_cdot: do that somewhere else please.
[04:44] <noe> I'm feeling mighty brave,the wife might want some attention though...Eh, I'll go for it
[04:44] <daftykins> :D
[04:44] <cfhowlett> wait/what?!
[04:44] <daftykins> cfhowlett: o/
[04:47] <Bashing-om> daftykins: Yeah ! I was looking .. I see no fault . Nvidia do something ? as I was under the impression we needed version 334.xx or later .
[04:50] <daftykins> Bashing-om: mmm no idea here, maybe it's the point of 319-updates having updates of some kind 0o
[04:51] <Bashing-om> daftykins: If it ain't broke, do not fix it !
[04:51] <daftykins> :D
[04:53] <gr1zzly_be4r> ok so i can get to a grub command shell as root but i cant do anything because its a readonly terminal
[04:55] <gr1zzly_be4r> am i at the wrong termina?l
[04:55] <gr1zzly_be4r> terminal?**
[04:56] <Bashing-om> gr1zzly_be4r: Doing good, again a couple of ways to r/w for the file system. a) choose enabale networking option. b) in the root shell, terminal command -> mount -o remount rw / <- .
[04:58] <inception> f
[04:58] <inception> guys
[04:58] <agent_white> So. I have no experience at all with tuning TCP but am looking to check it out.  Is sysctl the main place to go pretty much?
[04:59] <viejotren> Hi, I'm using ubuntu 14.10 and I have a problem with a package, it's gimp, it seems it has broken dependences, so I can't install it, I checked my repos and everything it's ok, in fact, the gimp is on the repos, so I google this situation but there is enough useful info, anyone has an idea?
[04:59] <inception> try to update and upgrade your system before installing anythong
[04:59] <inception> try to update and upgrade your system before installing anything
[05:00] <agent_white> viejotren: Pastie your exact error output as well. So we can see exactly what you mean.
[05:00] <viejotren> inception: I did it, still the same
[05:00] <viejotren> agent_white: just 1 minute
[05:01] <gr1zzly_be4r> turns out that it's a different graphics card
[05:02] <gr1zzly_be4r> nvidia g72
[05:02] <gr1zzly_be4r> which i think is supported
[05:03] <Viiruzoh> :D
[05:03] <viejotren> agent_white: http://snag.gy/9sqPN.jpg
[05:05] <agent_white> viejotren: Held packages?
[05:06] <agent_white> viejotren: Find them this way `dpkg --get-selections | grep hold`
[05:07] <Bashing-om> gr1zzly_be4r: to see the card and releated driver ( if loaded) terminal command -> sudo lshw -C display <- . look in "config" line for a loaded driver .
[05:08] <viejotren> agent_white: nothing, after type the command you write, I got nothing on terminal
[05:09] <agent_white> viejotren: http://askubuntu.com/questions/164587/how-can-you-unhold-remove-a-hold-on-a-package
[05:09] <viejotren> agent_white: thank you, I'll check it
[05:09] <agent_white> viejotren: Try that out. Otherwise, if you're looking for the 'quickest' way, generally aptitude will resolve those issues for you, unlike apt-get.
[05:10] <viejotren> agent_white: got it, I'll let you know in a couple of minutes, thank you
[05:10] <gr1zzly_be4r> the only thing that shows in the "config" line is "latency=0"
[05:10] <agent_white> No problem!
[05:11] <Bashing-om> gr1zzly_be4r: Well, then ... no driver is loaded . Need to find out what it will take to load a driver of some sort .
[05:12] <gr1zzly_be4r> right. well i tried just updating the package manager with just an apt-get update and it's failing
[05:12] <gr1zzly_be4r> so i don't know how i'd even install a driver
[05:13] <sexyboy> how do i make an upstart script run last?
[05:13] <sexyboy> after all other scripts ran
[05:15] <Bashing-om> gr1zzly_be4r: If you are at the recovery console, and have not "enabled Networking" then of course the package manager will fail as no internet . - I work best from an actual terminal ( edit the kernels boot line in grub ) . We will woek through this . But past my time here and getting sleepy .
[05:15] <sexyboy> actually the script does not run at all but works with inictl invoked manually
[05:15] <Bashing-om> woek/work*
[05:16] <sexyboy> anything i should know about making an upstart job run during boot?
[05:16] <sexyboy> or maybe there is another channel i should go to and discuss this
[05:17] <viejotren> agent_white: I found the problem is with gcc-base version, utopic unicorn uses 4.9.2 and it's required 4.9.1, I guess downgrade gcc-base is not a valid option right?
[05:17] <agent_white> viejotren: Oh wow... have you just simply updated your system yet?
[05:19] <viejotren> agent_white: yes my system is up to date, more details about I found: http://snag.gy/9YM5K.jpg
[05:19] <gr1zzly_be4r> can i just enable networking from the recovery command prompt?
[05:20] <Lazuratus> Anyone know if it's possible to exclude specific files (like desktop.ini for example) when using a cifs share with autofs?
[05:20] <agent_white> viejotren: Looks like the 7th action is best bet. (the other packages aren't installed, so they don't matter)
[05:21] <viejotren> agent_white: ok, I'll try it, just 1 minute
[05:26] <viejotren> agent_white: it does not work, more details: http://pbrd.co/1xjwSGE
[05:27] <Bashing-om> gr1zzly_be4r: yeah, best I recall is to "exit' the root terminal, and that takes you back to the options screen, here choose "enable networking" and once more select "root terminal" .
[05:28] <gr1zzly_be4r> i got it working
[05:28] <gr1zzly_be4r> with an ifconfig eth0 up
[05:28] <gr1zzly_be4r> so now if i run that lshw -C display i should see something else right
[05:29] <agent_white> viejotren: What did you enter to get that prompt?
[05:29] <agent_white> `apt-get install gimp` ?
[05:30] <Bashing-om> gr1zzly_be4r: Possible, but doubtful .. We need to KNOW the card then consider the options to install a driver .
[05:30] <viejotren> agent_white: when it says: "accept this solution?..." I typed 7
[05:30] <agent_white> viejotren: OHHH woops!
[05:30] <agent_white> "Y"
[05:30] <agent_white> Hit Y instead
[05:30] <agent_white> haha I missed that.
[05:30] <gr1zzly_be4r> it's a nvidia card
[05:30] <gr1zzly_be4r> i installed an apt-get nvidia-current
[05:31] <viejotren> agent_white: using apt-get I got the held broken packages, and the screenshot is using aptityude
[05:31] <Bashing-om> gr1zzly_be4r: Maybe good .. IF that card is still supported by Nvidia .
[05:31] <gr1zzly_be4r> lets fucking hope so
[05:31] <gr1zzly_be4r> ls
[05:31] <gr1zzly_be4r> lol
[05:32] <agent_white> viejotren: Alright. When the prompt comes back up, hit "7" then "Y"
[05:32] <daftykins> gr1zzly_be4r: lol nvidia now? don't use that language in here please.
[05:33] <Bashing-om> gr1zzly_be4r: To seee what the grahics card(s) is -> lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga <- .
[05:33] <viejotren> agent_white: done, but it did not work, the same result as the previous screenshot
[05:33] <gr1zzly_be4r> sorry
[05:34] <gr1zzly_be4r> well it's not locking anymore but it's saying that there are internal problems
[05:35] <gr1zzly_be4r> yeah the VGA controller is a NVIDIA Corp G72
[05:35] <Bashing-om> gr1zzly_be4r: driver did not install ? see above to know what card we are dealing with .
[05:35] <gr1zzly_be4r> the driver installed is nvidia
[05:36] <gr1zzly_be4r> i think it's actually working now though.
[05:37] <Bashing-om> gr1zzly_be4r: A reboot sometimes works wonders .
[05:37] <gr1zzly_be4r> It's not locking, and I'm in the regular desktop.
[05:38] <gr1zzly_be4r> looks like it definitely did for me
[05:38] <agent_white> viejotren: `sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get autoclean`
[05:38] <agent_white> Then try `sudo apt-get install gimp`
[05:39] <Bashing-om> !yay | gr1zzly_be4r
[05:39] <viejotren> agent_white: same result (held broken packages)
[05:40] <gr1zzly_be4r> thank you for the help!
[05:40] <epyx> thank you for Ubuntu guys
[05:40] <agent_white> viejotren: Pastie the output for me please :)
[05:40] <agent_white> viejotren: pastie.org
[05:40] <Bashing-om> gr1zzly_be4r: :) m you done all the work .
[05:43] <viejotren> agent_white: http://pastie.org/9781022
[05:45] <agent_white> Ah
[05:45] <agent_white> viejotren: that some required packages have not yet been created
[05:45] <agent_white> viejotren: http://askubuntu.com/questions/140246/how-do-i-resolve-unmet-dependencies-after-adding-a-ppa
[05:46] <hey_joe> i dont really know where to ask this...
[05:46] <noe> daftykins: so i've updated. It gave me a crash report: "Sorry, a problem occurred while installing software. Package: nvidia-331-updates" What does this mean?
[05:47] <noe> it seems to be working though
[05:47] <hey_joe> but im trying to run a minimal server config on a small RAM box.... i have PHP nginx configured in lieu of Apache2. is that the better low memory setup?
[05:47] <hey_joe> nginx at least vs apache2
[05:48] <daftykins> noe: no idea there i'm afraid, you restarted already then? since the updates installed
[05:48] <hey_joe> i really just want a jquery type framework like angular, a DB (i know mysql well, familiar with postgres), and SSL...
[05:48] <hey_joe> and php
[05:49] <noe> yes, restarted & got that error with lots of "details" below
[05:49] <daftykins> hey_joe: how low are we talking?
[05:51] <viejotren> agent_white: got it, I have to work tomorrow, it's all for me today, thanks for all your help and time, I'll let you know in next hours
[05:59] <adip> how are you ubuntu hahaha
[06:00] <adip> uci
[06:00] <daftykins> ...
[06:01] <adip> cak pie
[06:02] <daftykins> well i'm glad that fine exchange is over
[06:03] <noe> daftykins: well, I don't know what that meant but all seems to be well. Did the steps from that ubuntuhandbook link again just to be safe and restarted. Seems to be good. Bedtime, though. Thanks a lot for all your help.
[06:04] <uciaskira> adip mana
[06:05] <uciaskira> adip asem e
[06:05] <adip> uci edan
[06:05] <daftykins> noe: any time :) have a good week o/
[06:06] <terminator----> I use debian linux so I'm totally clueless here. My friends safari is crashing with osx. Where is the crashlog? I'm in crashreporter. Can I find it in /var/logs?
[06:06] <daftykins> terminator----: what makes you think this is a mac support channel?
[06:06] <adip> help me
[06:07] <daftykins> adip: you have to ask a question first.
[06:07] <terminator----> oh crap I joined the wrong channel
[06:07] <terminator----> sorry
[06:07] <terminator----> my irc client auto joined this
[06:07] <uciaskira> how can  help
[06:07] <adip> terminator what
[06:08] <akiva-thinkpad> hey I have a .sh file; how do I change it so when I double click on it in nautilus, that it executes it as a program rather than trying to open it with an application?
[06:08] <adip> hey I have a .sh file; how do I change it so when I double click on it in nautilus, that it executes it as a program rather than trying to open it with an application?whatttttttttttt
[06:09] <akiva-thinkpad> adip, erm; yah i know
[06:09] <uciaskira> what your distro linux you use
[06:09] <akiva-thinkpad> what I mean is how to get it to use sh to open it?
[06:09] <epyx> run it in a terminal
[06:09] <uciaskira> can you speak indonesia
[06:09] <daftykins> !in
[06:09] <akiva-thinkpad> uciaskira, ubuntu
[06:10] <daftykins> oops wrong one
[06:10] <uciaskira> ctrl+alt+t
[06:10] <adip> jawatimur gue
[06:10] <akiva-thinkpad> uciaskira, no; I want to do it from nautilus, not from a terminal
[06:10] <daftykins> !id
[06:10] <akiva-thinkpad> that double clicking just opens it.
[06:10] <epyx> but it's a shell script :P
[06:10] <adip> akiva girls or boys
[06:10] <daftykins> uciaskira adip #ubuntu-id
[06:10] <uciaskira> asem semrawut kabeh,,,,..
[06:10] <akiva-thinkpad> adip, what?
[06:11] <daftykins> akiva-thinkpad: ignore these two they're trolling
[06:11] <uciaskira> yes me use ubuntu
[06:11] <akiva-thinkpad> daftykins, lol thanks
[06:11] <epyx> I'm not trolling :/
[06:11] <adip> your countries?
[06:11] <adip> akiva
[06:11] <akiva-thinkpad> !ot | adip
[06:11] <daftykins> epyx: you're not one of the two i was referring to :P
[06:11] <uciaskira> adip you grazy
[06:11] <epyx> daftykins, roger :)
[06:11] <adip> uciaskira stupid
[06:11] <daftykins> uciaskira adip either ask an ubuntu support question or LEAVE please.
[06:11] <akiva-thinkpad> !ops | adip
[06:12]  * phunyguy glances up
[06:12] <cfhowlett> adip, uciaskira insults are not needed or allowed.  stop now.
[06:12] <phunyguy> adip, please adhere to the guidelines.
[06:12] <epyx> adip, good job, you set the alarms off!
[06:12] <phunyguy> no need for the peanut gallery, either.
[06:12] <cfhowlett> epyx, let's *not* feed them ...
[06:13] <uciaskira> sorry gyus,,, me test xchat,,, sorry gyus,,, because me use ubuntu modifikasi,,, how are you all
[06:13] <adip> ubuntu iam bacbox
[06:13] <epyx> I hate to see them starve :<
[06:13] <cfhowlett> adip, backbox is not supported here.  sorry.
[06:13] <akiva-thinkpad> anyways for some reason I was under the impression that shell scripts could be executed in Nautilus through double clicking;
[06:13] <adip> :) im happy all
[06:13] <cfhowlett> !backbox | adip
[06:13] <epyx> akiva-thinkpad, maybe, but what happens is they open up in a terminal anyway afaik
[06:14] <daftykins> nah that behaviour has gotten confused i think
[06:14] <adip> iam no smart speking in englsh
[06:14] <makara> is there a snappy channel?
[06:14] <adip> iam no smart speking in english
[06:14] <akiva-thinkpad> epyx, hmmm, actually thats a good idea... I'll see if gnome terminal will work.
[06:14] <daftykins> adip: then join #ubuntu-id please
[06:14] <adip> akiva makara apyx how are you
[06:14] <epyx> try right click it, --> rights --> allow executable as a program (or something)
[06:14] <epyx> I have that option
[06:14] <cfhowlett> adip, you use backbox.  we can't help you.  sorry.
[06:15] <makara> adip: I don't speak English well
[06:15] <epyx> akiva-thinkpad, poorly translated by me btw ;)
[06:15] <Soundlogic|Mobil> Hello! I'm using a ubuntu flash drive due to hard drive problems. However, my laptop's wifi seems to be having trouble. Lshw -C network shows my wifi adapter as unclaimed.
[06:15] <akiva-thinkpad> epyx, hmmm there is an option for "Run Software"; doesnt' work though
[06:15] <daftykins> Soundlogic|Mobil: would it not be more important to check the hard disk first than get the thing online? :)
[06:16] <Soundlogic|Mobil> I have my stuff off the hard disk, and I will look into its problems later. Mostly I want a not tiny phone with wifi.
[06:16] <epyx> akiva-thinkpad, http://imgur.com/ioye08K
[06:16] <adip> hai
[06:17] <adip> help me im
[06:17] <adip> help
[06:17] <adip> helpme
[06:17] <cfhowlett> adip, stop it.
[06:17] <phunyguy> adip: stop that
[06:17] <uciaskira> help me please,,,,,,,i have problem,,, my batre laptop low,,,,
[06:17] <epyx> put it in the oven
[06:17] <daftykins> phunyguy: uciaskira is doing the same thing, could they get a +q?
[06:17] <daftykins> it's not a real query.
[06:18] <cfhowlett> epyx, bad and destructive advice!! you KNOW better!  knock it off
[06:18] <akiva-thinkpad> I have banned for less :P Though I deserved it.
[06:18] <cfhowlett> phunyguy, add epyx to that -q please
[06:18] <epyx> cfhowlett, what is?
[06:18]  * phunyguy glances at backlog
[06:18] <epyx> to mark it as executable? :/
[06:18] <Soundlogic|Mobil> The ability to put stuff on flash drives without finding another computer each time and not having to type on this tiny keyboard would be very nice.
[06:18] <phunyguy> epyx: you need to stick to support please.  Stop being silly, this is not the place.
[06:19] <uciaskira> 0ulj\
[06:19] <uciaskira> iamstupis
[06:19] <daftykins> Soundlogic|Mobil: so you're missing a driver, what wireless adapter is it?
[06:20] <Soundlogic|Mobil> "Bcm4352 802.11ac wireless network adapter"
[06:21] <daftykins> can you plug the system in with wired networking to install a driver?
[06:21] <daftykins> you're going to have a hell of a time trying to get that thing online without
[06:21] <Soundlogic|Mobil> Hm. I shall have to search for a port and cable.
[06:22] <cfhowlett> Soundlogic|Mobil, you're booted from ubuntu USB?  which version of ubuntu?
[06:22] <Soundlogic|Mobil> How do I check?
[06:22] <daftykins> cat /etc/issue
[06:22] <Soundlogic|Mobil> 14.4.1 lts
[06:23] <cfhowlett> Soundlogic|Mobil, no online access needed.  you can dpkg -i the files directly from the USB
[06:23] <Soundlogic|Mobil> Which files?
[06:23] <daftykins> ah my mistake ^ keep hearing about this being an option but don't know anything about it personally
[06:23] <daftykins> installing the broadcom driver.
[06:23] <cfhowlett> Soundlogic|Mobil, file manager >> filesysystem > pool >
[06:24] <cfhowlett> filesystem > cdrom
[06:24] <cfhowlett> *sorry*
[06:24] <cfhowlett> > pool > main > d> dkms > sudo dpkg -i dkms.DEB
[06:25] <cfhowlett> pool > restricted > b > bcmwl > sudo dpkg -i bcml-kernel-source.DEB
[06:25] <cfhowlett> note: DKMS must be done first
[06:25] <Soundlogic|Mobil> First the first?
[06:27] <Soundlogic|Mobil> "error processing archive"-I think I remembered where an Ethernet cable is though. Maybe.
[06:28] <cfhowlett> daftykins, sudo dpkg -i     main > d > dkms.deb    and  restricted > b > bcmwl > bcmwl-kernel-source.deb      works for most broadcom chipsets
[06:29] <daftykins> cfhowlett: *nod* i just wasn't aware packages are usable on disc now :)
[06:29] <cfhowlett> daftykins, they've always been there, just had to dig through some obscure documentation to find the correct pathway
[06:30] <daftykins> hehe
[07:02] <dip_kush04> hello
[07:09] <TekkBuzz> dip_kush04:  Hey'
[07:22] <lolcat> Should I used updates or the other one?
[07:39] <ararob> hmmm.... CDemu doesn't unmount my iso's right. It "unmounts" the iso, but when i go in the file manager, i can still see the mount point, and there's an eject button next to it
[07:39] <ararob> i click on it and the mount point dissappears
[07:39] <explodingmango> Okay, I just learned about apt pinning and changing the priority of repositories. I also learned that setting a repository's priority to -10 will keep it from installing anything, even if it has a newer version available. My question:  Is there any way to get a list of all packages which *would* be upgraded if only they weren't being blocked by the priority being -10?
[07:42] <bubbasaures> that's roulette under you're not understanding why
[07:54] <HelenaKitty> Hello
[07:54] <HelenaKitty> Okay so...
[07:54] <HelenaKitty> My RTC is broken. How do I get NTP to sync the software clock?
[08:00] <da_didi> HelenaKitty: you need to install ntpdate
[08:01] <HelenaKitty> da_didi, Is that all?
[08:01] <da_didi> and then you need to execute ntpdate :)
[08:02] <HelenaKitty> oh
[08:02] <da_didi> e.g. - depending where you live - ntpdate -b 0.de.pool.ntp.org
[08:02] <da_didi> as root or with sudo
[08:03] <HelenaKitty> da_didi, I need this per restart
[08:03] <HelenaKitty> I can't keep executing this!
[08:03] <da_didi> HelenaKitty: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/NTP.html
[08:04] <HelenaKitty> Didn't update
[08:04] <da_didi> there is hint how to get the update each day (with the cron.daily)
[08:04] <Ben64> uh, pretty sure once ntp is installed, it runs as a service
[08:05] <HelenaKitty> da_didi, Except the ntpdate command didn't update my software clock
[08:08] <hateball> Ben64: ntpdate can run independent of the ntpd tho
[08:08] <eXistenZNL> hateball it blocks the socket so you need to stop ntpd in order to run ntpdate
[08:08] <eXistenZNL> but other than that, yeah
[08:09] <hateball> eXistenZNL: Yes, I'm just saying you don't have to have ntpd running :)
[08:09] <afidegnum> how do I find my default gateway from ubuntu?
[08:09] <Ben64> hateball: its easier than running ntpdate all the time
[08:09] <afidegnum> I did ifconfig -a
[08:09] <hateball> Ben64: Yes
[08:09] <Ben64> afidegnum: type "route"
[08:09] <afidegnum> ok, thanks
[08:09] <StaiZittoDalmato> we
[08:09] <HelenaKitty> I do "this computer is annoying me"
[08:10] <HelenaKitty> It thinks it's in the year 2151
[08:10] <Ben64> replace battery / replace motherboard
[08:10] <hateball> If the drift is huge you may need to manually set a time before making it exact with ntpdate
[08:10] <afidegnum> what about the dns server?
[08:11] <afidegnum> can I type hte router's default dns server or it has to be another one?
[08:11] <Ben64> afidegnum: what are you trying to accomplish
[08:11] <hateball> afidegnum: "nm-tool" will show info
[08:11] <afidegnum> I am trying to configure my ubuntu PC to have a static IP address
[08:12] <Ben64> afidegnum: so open up the network connections tool and set a static ip there?
[08:13] <afidegnum> yes, that's waht I am trying to achieve
[08:13] <Ben64> yes, then do that
[08:13] <Forest-Dragon> #ubuntu
[08:13] <Forest-Dragon> oops
[08:13] <Forest-Dragon> hi
[08:15] <Forest-Dragon> !help
[08:30] <jnhghy> Hi, I have troubles with chromium on ubuntu 14.04, if I visit youtube all my computer crashes (just freezes and I can't do anything) what it's not working: ctrl+alt+F2, ctrl+alt+del mouse doesn't move anymore keyboard doesn't seem to do anything all I can do is reboot, any idea how can I troubleshoot
[08:33] <Difianz> porco pid
[08:33] <DevAntoine> hi
[08:33] <Difianz> hi
[08:33] <DevAntoine> Under 14.04 with XFCE, every time I reboot I have to set chromium as my default browser. What's happening?
[08:42] <Difianz> padre pio was here
[08:49] <ErC1> is Ubuntu can infected by virus ? anyone using antivirus for their Ubuntu ?
[08:49] <hateball> !virus | ErC1
[08:49] <DJones> ErC1: Generally no, but as it gets more popular there's always a risk
[08:50] <ErC1> Oh okay. Thank you for explaining
[08:53] <DevAntoine> I'm using the awesome synapse as my quick launcher. It's awesome but I have a lot of graphical bugs under ubuntu (under Mint + Mate). And I don't know how to take a sreenshort of it since it cannot be run using another software
[08:54] <hateball> !mint
[08:56] <ararob> http://www.bash.org/?906256
[08:59] <john__> can anyone hear me?
[09:00] <ikonia> yup
[09:00] <DJones> john__: The channel can see what your typing
[09:00] <john__> thanks
[09:00] <eXistenZNL> i cant
[09:00] <eXistenZNL> i can oly see what ikonia types
[09:00] <john__> just installed xchat, never used irc before, thought I would have to make an acct
[09:00] <eXistenZNL> lal
[09:00] <ikonia> john__: you're fine, but you can make a freenode account if you want
[09:00] <eXistenZNL> john__ you can, google on nickserv
[09:00] <ikonia> !register | john__
[09:01] <john__> thanks
[09:01] <andyfied> john__: actually, hexchat is recommended these days. xchat is no longer maintained
[09:01] <DJones> john__: For some channels, you do need to register a nick & login in otherwise you won't get access, most of the ubuntu channels don't need that though
[09:02] <john__> good to know, going to install that now, brb
[09:03] <john__> just installed hexchat, this is nicer too
[09:03] <john__> thanks for the tip
[09:04] <john__> love this interface, i love how clean everything is with linux
[09:04] <andyfied> john__: i really like hexchat :)
[09:04] <ErC1> I used smuxi before
[09:05] <john__> hey I had a question though, i downloaded a .tar.gz for pycharm (couldn't find it in the package manager), and I'm wondering where I should unpack it to. I know there's more than one place to install software on linux, but I want to be able to boot it from terminal like all my other software
[09:06] <ikonia> john__ you can unpack it whereever you feel best
[09:06] <zobrist> how to know who r using my wifi
[09:06] <ikonia> john__: you can run it from a terminal by typing the full path to it, or putting it in your $PATH environment variable
[09:06] <john__> like typing 'chromium-browser' boots google chrome, i want to be able to type 'pycharm' and have pycharm boot up
[09:06] <ikonia> john__: ubuntu also defaults to the bin directory in your home directory, so if you put it there you wouldn't have to do anything else
[09:06] <zobrist> how to know who r on the same wifi as me
[09:06] <john__> k
[09:07] <ikonia> zobrist: look on the router, not really an ubuntu issue
[09:07] <john__> could i get the full path to the bin directory? isn't there more than one
[09:07] <cfhowlett> zobrist, put a decent password on your router = YOU are using it.  no one else
[09:07] <ararob> zobrist: log in to your router, and check
[09:07] <ikonia> john__: in your home directory
[09:07] <zobrist> no no no
[09:07] <john__> in my home directory i see desktop, documents, etc.
[09:07] <zobrist> i want to know who r using wifi  which i am also using
[09:08] <ikonia> john__: right, if you create a bin directory that will automatically be in your path
[09:08] <ikonia> zobrist: look on the router
[09:08] <ikonia> zobrist: this isn't an ubuntu issue
[09:08] <zobrist> after finding the router then what
[09:08] <ikonia> zobrist: it's not an ubuntu issue
[09:08] <Axton> Is this channel also for ubuntu server Q?
[09:08] <john__> srry i'm not getting you, so I should create a bin folder in my home directory and put it there?
[09:08] <ikonia> zobrist: talk to the people who maintain the network
[09:08] <ikonia> john__: yes
[09:08] <john__> pretty new to linux
[09:08] <cfhowlett> zobrist, read your router documentation.  not an ubuntu issue.
[09:08] <ikonia> Axton: yes, and #ubuntu-server for specific help
[09:09] <Axton> ikonia: Thx;-)
[09:09] <john__> wouldn't that already exist if that's where software is installed though?
[09:09] <DevAntoine> Under 14.04 with XFCE, every time I reboot I have to set chromium as my default browser. What's happening?
[09:10] <ikonia> john__: thats not where software is installed, thats where you can install your personal software
[09:10] <john__> actually nvm, it's different in terminal. when I cd /home in the terminal and ls all i see is 'john'
[09:10] <cfhowlett> DevAntoine you probably told firefox to verify that it's the default browser each time
[09:10] <john__> so i should type mkdir bin
[09:11] <john__> from /home
[09:11] <ikonia> john__: no, thats not your home directory
[09:11] <ikonia> john__: your home directory is /home/john
[09:12] <john__> oh ok that makes more sense
[09:12] <explodingmango> I'm messing around with /etc/apt/preferences to set priority for my repositories. Can anyone tell me why "Package: **" is matching all the packages in a repository yet "Package: *" isn't, even though the latter is the official example given in `man apt_preferences`?
[09:12] <ararob> I'm trying to access about:config in epiphany, but the about:config wont load, it's just a white blank page
[09:12] <DevAntoine> cfhowlett: well, I don't even launch firefox oO
[09:12] <zobrist> how to run windows software in ubuntu
[09:12] <cfhowlett> DevAntoine, yes but if you trigger a browser launch, firefox thinks you want ff.
[09:12] <john__> i think there's a program called wine that allows you to do it
[09:13] <zobrist> wine
[09:13] <DJones> !wine | zobrist But not all will run and what does run may not be fully working,
[09:13] <john__> but i've also heard it's difficult to get working
[09:13] <ararob> john__:not terribly difficult
[09:13] <ararob> depends if your program is well supported
[09:13] <john__> i wanted to be able to play wc3 on ubuntu, and it looked like there were all sorts of bugs
[09:14] <DJones> john__: This might be a better way of installing pycharm http://www.sysads.co.uk/2014/06/install-pycharm-3-4-ubuntu-14-04/ It adds a repository and installs using the ubuntu package manager which will make it easier to update/remove in future
[09:14] <john__> really if i could play wc3 on ubuntu i wouldn't even have to dual boot
[09:14] <cfhowlett> !wine | zobrist,
[09:14] <john__> only reason i still use windows
[09:14] <andyfied> wine is not too bad, for a lot of games especially you can use PlayOnLinux which is a front end for it with decent set up scripts
[09:15] <andyfied> john__: check this out http://www.gamersonlinux.com/forum/threads/warcraft-iii-guide.398/
[09:15] <john__> oh what, playonlinux supports warcraft 3, says 'this installer has been approved by the team'
[09:15] <ararob> john__: https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=3126 , it should work "okay"
[09:15] <ararob> not perfect though
[09:15] <john__> hell yeah dude, thank you so much, can't believe i didn't get on irc sooner
[09:16] <andyfied> playonlinux is pretty useful
[09:16] <john__> i can live without the cutscenes haha, been playing warcraft 3 for 12 years
[09:17] <ararob> iirc, wc3 and wine have been friends for a long while, battle.net fucks things up though from time to time with their updates
[09:17] <DevAntoine> cfhowlett: that's not that, I've launched firefox and the option to check if it's the default browser isn't checked
[09:17] <MortezaE> Hi. I'm in a trouble with 14.14 window managment system.
[09:17] <MortezaE>  Alt+Tab switches between windows but none of them get focused!
[09:18] <MortezaE> * 14.04
[09:18] <ararob> Anyone have problems withi CDemu not unmounting iso's cleanly?
[09:19] <ararob> i mean the mount point is still there, and if i mount another iso on the same virtual device, the mount point gets some weirdo garbled text, looks like chinese :)
[09:20] <cfhowlett> DevAntoine, sorry.  pretty sure you've got conflicting browser settings on FF/chrome.  dig deep.
[09:23] <silviu_> does anyone know if Ubuntu Touch has somethign akin to this
[09:23] <silviu_> adb shell screenrecord
[09:23] <cfhowlett> !touch | silviu_,
[09:26] <MortezaE> How could i move some window to another workspace by a terminal command ?
[09:26] <MortezaE> I think wmctrl has not such option
[09:29] <john__> where would you guys recommend installing oracles jdk? pycharm requires it
[09:29] <ikonia> john__: are you sure it needs oracle jdk and not just a jdk/java?
[09:30] <wassulrus> is there a program that auto completes a paragraph?
[09:31] <DevAntoine> I'm using synapase and have bad graphicals bugs since I'm under ubuntu and xfce: http://imgur.com/yzTqYJK It was running like a charm under mate + mate. Any idea?
[09:31] <john__> I think so. when i 'sh pycharm.sh' (it comes with a shell script for installation), I get 'no JDK found. please validate either pycharm_jdk, jdk_home, or java_home environemnt variable points to a valid jdk installation
[09:32] <john__> doesn't ubuntu come with openjdk though?
[09:38] <auscompgeek> john__: not out of the box
[09:38] <auscompgeek> openjdk is in the repos
[09:39] <MortezaE> Anybody had experienced my problem with 14.04 window manager?
[09:39] <tnkhanh> MortezaE: what is the problem?
[09:39] <john__> yea just figured that out, got openjdk installed and it's working fine
[09:39] <john__> thanks
[09:41] <tnkhanh> Hi I want to uninstall Qt
[09:41] <tnkhanh> how to get rid of libraries in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu
[09:42] <ikonia> tnkhanh: you where told this yesterday
[09:42] <ikonia> is there a reason you are still asking this
[09:42] <ikonia> this is the 3rd time you've had this explained to you and you keep asking
[09:42] <tnkhanh> ikonia: ah thanks its you :D
[09:42] <MasterPiece> MortezaE, You R not a good questioner! I answered you on #ubuntu-ir
[09:42] <ikonia> tnkhanh: what is the problem ?
[09:42] <MortezaE> MasterPiece, :|
[09:43] <tnkhanh> ikonia: I tried to search for qt in the software center but found nothing
[09:43] <ikonia> tnkhanh: then there are no QT packages on your system
[09:43] <ararob> john__: hah, i just saw i can get wc3+ frozen throne for just 10 Euros including shipping :)
[09:43] <tnkhanh> ikonia: but I still see qt libraries in /usr/lib
[09:43] <ikonia> tnkhanh: which ones ?
[09:43] <MortezaE> tnkhanh, i can't focus on none of open window due to an onknown problem!! in happens one time per a month :))
[09:44] <MasterPiece> tnkhanh, Check you sources.list file, then apt-get update && apt-cache search qt
[09:44] <auscompgeek> MortezaE: I don't think you've mentioned which wm you're using
[09:45] <MortezaE> auscompgeek, I'm on ubuntu  14.04 with default config :)
[09:45] <MortezaE> metacity i think
[09:46] <MortezaE> ALt+Tab switches between windows but they dont accept focus!
[09:48] <tnkhanh> ikonia: I found these in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9526653/
[09:48] <Blaster> What's directory.d mean?
[09:49] <tnkhanh> ikonia: I will try MasterPiece's suggestion next :D
[09:49] <explodingmango> Hi, I'm messing around with /etc/apt/preferences, and trying to assign Pin-Priority: -10 to all packages from a given repository. Can anyone tell me why "Packages: *" won't match all packages in the repository, while "Packages: ?*" is successful in doing so?
[09:49] <EriC^^> MortezaE: try alt+tab then alt+~
[09:49] <EriC^^> MortezaE: btw ubuntu uses compiz now
[09:49] <explodingmango> For what it's worth, the official documentation `man apt_preferences` says Packages: * should work...
[09:50] <auscompgeek> MortezaE: there's many default configs...
[09:50] <ikonia> tnkhanh: that won't show you what's installed
[09:52] <MortezaE> EriC^^, i never heard about it before. what does it do?  it works for some window but not for others
[09:52] <tnkhanh> ikonia: hm yeah. I saw it so I think qt is still in my computer :s
[09:52] <dash_> I seem to have lost my unity side- and topbar for my personal account, making it hard to start appliations. I created a new account, and here things work. Any ideas to how I can restore the functionality for my account?
[09:52] <MortezaE> EriC^^, you right. it's compiz. socking compiz...
[09:52] <EriC^^> MortezaE: if you have multiple windows of the same program open it will focus and let you switch between them
[09:53] <tnkhanh> ikonia: I'm sure I uninstalled some via software center
[09:53] <MortezaE> ok thank you man
[09:56] <funkt> Hi there! Does anyone here have any knowledge of how I can make the thumbnails bigger when I am using the file browser?
[09:56] <rasta> JAH
[09:57] <funkt> They are just so small when selecting a file
[09:58] <cfhowlett> funkt, ctrl - mouse wheel scrolls the size
[09:59] <WAHAB> hELLO
[09:59] <WAHAB> I have a PRoblem Regarding WPS Spreadsheet
[09:59] <ikonia> Wps ?
[09:59] <funkt> Thank you It doesn't when selecting a file thats what I meant to say
[09:59] <WAHAB> anybody can help me
[09:59] <WAHAB>  I am a user for Ubuntu WPS Spreadsheet, i have a problem that i cannot find help in offline & online regarding auto correct & auto fill option.  For Example : If i write AW then Spreadsheet automatically fill my name as ABDUL WAHAB.  I Hope you can understand & please advise us urgently.
[09:59] <funkt> If I say decide to insert an image into a document it comes up with the file browser
[09:59] <ikonia> WAHAB: apologies, what's WPS ?
[09:59] <funkt> the images are so tiny
[10:00] <funkt> is there anyway of changing the size?
[10:00] <cfhowlett> WAHAB, ask wps for support - not an ubuntu program
[10:00] <WAHAB> WPS Is a builtin Software are as like MS Office Excel
[10:00] <ikonia> I've never heard of WPS
[10:00] <cfhowlett> WAHAB, wps is published by Kingsoft ... NOT ubuntu
[10:00] <ikonia> is wps word perfect ?
[10:01] <zamba> where do i choose which locales to generate?
[10:01] <cfhowlett> ikonia, china clone of ms office.  actually pretty functional
[10:01] <funkt> http://pasteboard.co/2s4nRqse.png
[10:01] <funkt> for example
[10:01] <WAHAB> Would you please advise us WPS Help Line Email Etc ?
[10:01] <cfhowlett> ikonia, nope not at all.
[10:01] <ikonia> cfhowlett: thanks, never heard of it
[10:01] <cfhowlett> WAHAB, wps-community.org
[10:02] <WAHAB> let me check and thanks
[10:02] <cfhowlett> ikonia, default office suite in China
[10:04] <nisseni> I'm using imagick and would like to disable some font's that are included in the system, is there an xml-file to edit for this?
[10:05] <muneer> d
[10:05] <funkt> http://pasteboard.co/2s4nRqse.png < Anybody know how I can increase the thumbnail size in the file browser?
[10:05] <funkt> When inserting an image.
[10:05] <cfhowlett> funkt, ctrl key + mouse whell
[10:05] <cfhowlett> *wheel*
[10:06] <funkt> That would work but it does not work on the file browser
[10:06] <funkt> it wont scroll in on selecting an image to insert into something
[10:07] <funkt> say for example inserting an image into a document it opens a window for you to view the image you wish to insert
[10:07] <funkt> this is so small
[10:07] <funkt> I would love to have a larger version so i can see what I am inserting
[10:08] <funkt> ctrl + wheel does not seem to work when opening the window
[10:22] <dash_> How do I debug errors with Unity? It works on a new test account, but not on my main account. No launcher, no dash, no top menu bar.
[10:22] <EriC^^> dash_: try to rename the ~/.config
[10:24] <mascot66991> hello
[10:24] <mascot66991> does anyone here knows how should i clone via ssh ??
[10:24] <ikonia> clone what ?
[10:25] <mascot66991> a bitbucket repo which i have write access to but is not mine
[10:25] <mascot66991> i have created both the public and private key
[10:25] <ikonia> isn't it just a git repo ?
[10:26] <dash_> EriC^^: Thanks a lot. That seems to work!
[10:26] <mascot66991> so just git clone <address to repo> wil do ??
[10:26] <ikonia> if it's just a standard git repo, which it should be, sure
[10:27] <mascot66991> ahh okay
[10:27] <mascot66991> it said that you wont need a password each time if you use ssh cloning so i was trying it
[10:28] <mascot66991> how do they verify with my public key ??
[10:28] <ikonia> who said they are ?
[10:28] <ikonia> you'll have to contact the repo owner to see how they have setup auth
[10:28] <ikonia> (or permissions)
[10:29] <mascot66991> the repo owner gave me a write level access
[10:29] <naturalog> hi. any HDD backup tool for ubuntu that *works*? with auto scheduling and encryption?
[10:29] <hateball> !backup
[10:30] <naturalog> thanks, but they doesnt work... as you all know!
[10:30] <mascot66991> I was reading this https://confluence.atlassian.com/display/BITBUCKET/Set+up+SSH+for+Git
[10:30] <javnut> my scheduled tasks aren't launching and it makes me sad
[10:31] <javnut> how can I get them to start launching?
[10:37] <Pricey> naturalog: I'd make those two separate tasks... choose a way to encrypt your data on your backup system, then find a way to schedule backups that get sent there.
[10:39] <Guest70352> Hi
[10:40] <Guest70352> i downloaded ubuntu - gnome 14.04.1 and install on my usb flash and after installing on usb   boot from usb
[10:41] <Guest70352> but i can not login to ubuntu-gnome in live boot
[10:43] <naturalog> Pricey, thanks. so you speak about backuping the whole disk image? so incremental backup would be a problem, right?
[10:43] <Guest70352>  i can not login to ubuntu-gnome in live boot
[10:43] <Guest70352> why ?
[10:44] <cfhowlett> Guest70352, USB size?
[10:47] <Pricey> naturalog: Not really, do whatever you fancy. Full image or diffs or anything.
[10:48] <Pricey> naturalog: But I reckon you'll have a better time if you think about this as two separate problems to be solved separately. backup programs don't care about encrypting the data, you can just store their output in an encrypted volume?
[10:52] <ag4ve_> how do i get the installer to boot on a uefi board?
[10:52] <cfhowlett> !uefi | ag4ve_
[10:54] <PaulePanter> Hi. How do I sign in into Launchpad with my OpenID account?
[10:56] <BaNzounet> Hey guys, what apt-get install -f does ?
[10:56] <ag4ve_> cfhowlett: thanks (i think) hadn't tried to just do live mode
[10:56] <Guest70352> cfhowlett    8 Gb
[10:56] <Seveas> BaNzounet: it fixes things
[10:57] <Seveas> BaNzounet: the apt-get manpage actually explains this pretty well :)
[10:57] <rik__> hi
[10:57] <PaulePanter> BaNzounet: man apt-get
[10:57] <PaulePanter> BaNzounet: -f, --fix-broken
[10:58] <Guest70352>  can you help me to install ubuntu-gnome on my system ?
[10:58] <naturalog> Pricey, thanks again, you're ofc right. its just i have an external hdd, and wanted to have encrypted tar files there of backup, and also use this hdd for other uses
[10:58] <cfhowlett> Guest70352, get the actual ubuntu-gnome .iso.  make a USB.  boot USB and install
[10:58] <naturalog> with other machines
[10:58] <BaNzounet> PaulePanter: Seveas Thanks I'll rtfm :D
[10:59] <EriC^^> Guest70352: do you have ubuntu right now?
[10:59] <Guest70352> yes   ubuntu 14.04
[10:59] <EriC^^> Guest70352: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[11:00] <naturalog> Pricey, ofc doing it manually or even requiring to insert the password each time, will make the backup not to happen when you actually need it :)
[11:00] <naturalog> tttt im considering installing tahoe-lafs
[11:02] <xh> 有 中国的吗
[11:02] <cfhowlett> !cn | xh,
[11:03] <Guest70352> the iso that i downloaded is : ubuntu-gnome-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[11:04] <Guest70352> my cpu is :   intel pentium dual core   (x86 -64 )
[11:04] <Guest70352> RAM : 1.5 GB
[11:05] <cfhowlett> Guest70352, 1.5?  pretty low especially for gnome!  lubuntu or xubuntu likely better choices.  gnome and unity are ram hungry
[11:06] <EriC^^> Guest70352: is ubuntu already installed?
[11:06] <Guest70352> but ubuntu-gnome says minimum ram is 1 Gb
[11:06] <Guest70352> yes
[11:06] <EriC^^> Guest70352: it should already be ubuntu-gnome then
[11:06] <EriC^^> ( if you used that iso )
[11:07] <Guest70352> i already installed ubuntu 14.04
[11:07] <EriC^^> Guest70352: you don't need to download an iso to add/change the desktop environment to gnome or anything else
[11:07] <EriC^^> Guest70352: which iso did you use?
[11:09] <gruntz> Hi. I have problem with tray icons - my dropbox icon is not this system default one: https://i.imgur.com/RuhSzId.png - it worked day or two ago
[11:09] <Guest70352> EriC^^    ubuntu-gnome 14.04.1
[11:09] <EriC^^> Guest70352: ok
[11:09] <cfhowlett> gruntz, please don't crosspost
[11:10] <yellabs-r2> heloo all
[11:10] <yellabs-r2> hello
[11:10] <yellabs-r2> :)
[11:11] <yellabs-r2> with bash , i can echo 'sometext' >> into.txt file , is there a way to echo it to lets say line 10 ?
[11:11] <yellabs-r2> any tips are welcome ( ubuntu bash )
[11:13] <ash`> yellabs-r2: I imagine this is more for #bash?
[11:14] <yellabs-r2> maybe yes.. ;)
[11:14] <Pricey> naturalog: There exist solutions to encrypt to a public key, which can't be decrypted without the privat ekey.
[11:14] <anonymous_> Yes
[11:19] <naturalog> Pricey, nice idea
[11:23] <daniel555> hi
[11:24] <sennn> does ubuntu contain selinux?
[11:25] <k1l> yes
[11:26] <sennn> good
[11:28] <daniel555> does ubuntu has Transmission embedded?
[11:29] <MortezaE> Hi. i'm noticed that Indicator applet has been quited due to an unknown problem(maybe low memory) and i can't switch keyboard language. which daemon should i restart?
[11:29] <k1l> daniel555: yes
[11:29] <daniel555> thanks
[11:30] <daniel555> but dosent have irc client embedded?
[11:33] <k1l> daniel555: no, just a Instant-messenger. but you can install xchat/hexchat or other clients from the official ubuntu repo
[11:36] <daniel555> thanks
[11:37] <sennn> does ubuntu really contain SElinux?
[11:38] <IdleOne> sennn: apt-cache search selinux
[11:38] <k1l> sennn: you have the answer. what is your real issue? what ubuntu are you runnin exactly?
[11:38] <IdleOne> sennn: to see if you have it installed do apt-cache policy selinux
[11:47] <HZun> how stable is the non-lts kernel in ubuntu 14.04 compared to the lts upstream kernels?
[11:48] <EriC^^> HZun: you mean 14.10 ?
[11:48] <EriC^^> nevermind
[11:48] <javnut> I have a shell script which is supposed to launch every 6 minutes
[11:49] <javnut> and in my system monitor, I see it's running, but it's clearly not because it doesn't open the windows which it would when I double click it
[11:49] <k1l> HZun: ubuntu supports the kernel from 14.04 for 5 years. that is stable
[11:50] <EriC^^> javnut: is it a cronjob?
[11:50] <javnut> EriC^^: yeah
[11:50] <EriC^^> */6 * * * * ?
[11:50] <k1l> javnut: what is this script about and should it open a window?
[11:51] <enry23> ciao a tutti
[11:51] <enry23> !list
[11:51] <javnut> k1l: yes, it basically opens up genymotion
[11:51] <HZun> k1l, that depends how great the support is. how does canonical/ubuntu support compares to the upstream lts kernel support?
[11:51] <EriC^^> javnut: it won't open a gui unless you do DISPLAY=:0 <program>
[11:51] <guig33k> someone can say to me what is the version of fglrx driver on ubuntu 14.10 ? and does it the last same version of the amd website ?
[11:51] <javnut> EriC^^: it's a shell script which opens up genymotion
[11:52] <javnut> not an actual GUI
[11:52] <EriC^^> javnut: but genymotion is a gui?
[11:52] <k1l> HZun: i dont get what are you pointing at exactly. ubuntu supports the kernel and backports patches if needed.
[11:52] <javnut> EriC^^: yes, and another similar shell script which I have works fine
[11:52] <k1l> guig33k: packages.ubuntu.com
[11:52] <javnut> it does exactly the same thing basically
[11:53] <EriC^^> javnut: it doesn't matter, do export DISPLAY=:0 script.sh
[11:53] <javnut> for the command?
[11:53] <k1l> guig33k: and now, the amd website got a newer version in most times, but its not better to run a newer version. the ubuntu one is made working  with ubuntu and that is better than a newer version that doesnt run at all :)
[11:53] <javnut> "do export DISPLAY=:0 script.sh"?
[11:54] <k1l> guig33k: or the automatic updates and situations when you get a kernel update. that is all better on ubuntu driver
[11:54] <HZun> k1l, i just needed some clarification as to what ubuntu support means. but thanks
[11:54] <guig33k> k1l: on packages.ubuntu.com you cannot see the version
[11:54] <k1l> guig33k: sure
[11:54] <guig33k> fglrx-updates (2:14.201-0ubuntu2) [restricted]
[11:54] <EriC^^> javnut: try DISPLAY=:0 script.sh
[11:54] <guig33k> but it not say me which version of the amd driver it is
[11:55] <javnut> EriC^^: ok, I'll see what happens in a minute
[11:55] <guig33k> k1l: yes but i play a native game on linux and someone say to me the bug which make black screen in the game has been correct by the last amd driver
[11:55] <k1l> guig33k: what version is on amd website?
[11:55] <EriC^^> javnut: or DISPLAY=:0 bash /path/to/script.sh
[11:56] <k1l> guig33k: its version: 14.201 in utopic
[11:56] <guig33k> k1l: 14.12 and it s dated of 09/12/2014
[11:56] <secrettriangle> Hi, I'm having issues booting up after the latest update... getting warnings in Xorg.0.log for /dev/dri/card0
[11:57] <guig33k> k1l: when the last will be add to ubuntu ?
[11:57] <javnut> EriC^^: the DISPLAY /path/to/script.sh didn't work
[11:57] <secrettriangle> I tried deleting xorg.conf but now it won't login
[11:57] <EriC^^> javnut: i think you need to add bash
[11:57] <secrettriangle> (though lightdm does start)
[11:58] <k1l> !away > Joshua^Dunamis
[11:58] <javnut> EriC^^: that didn't work either, and I'm not following the logic here
[11:58] <javnut> the script WAS working
[11:58] <javnut> I have another similar script which does almost the same thing, and that launched 30 minutes ago
[11:58] <guig33k> k1l: where do you have see it s 14.201 ?
[11:59] <EriC^^> javnut: it should work
[11:59] <EriC^^> javnut: in crontab?
[11:59] <javnut> EriC^^: yes
[11:59] <EriC^^> does the script set the display?
[12:00] <javnut> see, my other script just launched
[12:00] <EriC^^> javnut: is it launching a gui?
[12:00] <javnut> EriC^^: yes
[12:02] <EriC^^> javnut: can you upload the scripts?
[12:02] <javnut> EriC^^: let me try something first
[12:02] <EriC^^> javnut: ok
[12:04] <javnut> EriC^^: I just removed the script
[12:04] <javnut> and readded the same thing
[12:04] <EriC^^> javnut: if you could upload stuff it would be better
[12:05] <javnut> EriC^^: no, I mean it's working now
[12:05] <EriC^^> that doesn't make sense
[12:05] <javnut> all I did was remove the cron job
[12:05] <javnut> and readded it
[12:05] <EriC^^> maybe your computer is moody
[12:05] <EriC^^> who knows
[12:05] <guig33k> someone can help me when i start teamspeak binary i have this message : This application failed to start because it could not find or load the Qt platform plugin "xcb".
[12:05] <javnut> the only thing I did
[12:05] <EriC^^> :D
[12:05] <javnut> was change the name of the script, then I changed it back
[12:06] <javnut> and it stopped working
[12:08] <guig33k> someone can help me when i start teamspeak binary i have this message : This application failed to start because it could not find or load the Qt platform plugin "xcb".
[12:10] <agent_white> guig33k: `apt-get install libx11-xcb1`
[12:11] <agent_white> That way you install the X11 implementation of the XCB plugin.
[12:11] <agent_white> http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/linux-requirements.html -- for additional dependencies that Qt may require.
[12:17] <secrettriangle> My /home is mounting is read-only, any thoughts?
[12:17] <EriC^^> secrettriangle: fsck it
[12:18] <k1l> secrettriangle: see dmesg, maybe its hardware failing
[12:18] <javnut> EriC^^: for some reason when I change the lines of the file
[12:18] <guig33k> agent_white: i have found i will needed to start it by the runscript
[12:18] <javnut> it stops working
[12:18] <guig33k> it s work now
[12:18] <secrettriangle> OK will do
[12:18] <agent_white> guig33k: Good deal :)
[12:18] <agent_white> Thanks for the update
[12:19] <ggherdov> Hi, I'm on ubuntu 14.04. Since this morning I cannot get to my desktop environment anymore: I input my password, it is accepted, the form disappear and nothing more happens.
[12:19] <ggherdov> Any hint on how can I solve this / keyword to google ?
[12:21] <ggherdov> Guest23097: gnome fallback.
[12:21] <agent_white> ggherdov: Did you recently update to 14.04?
[12:22] <ggherdov> agent_white: nope, I did the upgrade about 6 months ago.
[12:22] <agent_white> ggherdov: What DE do you have? Unity?
[12:22] <ggherdov> agent_white: I use the fallback mode for gnome, i.e. gnome 2-ish.
[12:23] <Guest41579> LANG=hu:en
[12:23] <agent_white> ggherdov: Do you have `unity-2d` installed?
[12:23] <secrettriangle> So here's what happening
[12:24] <secrettriangle> I can get to lightdm fine but as soon as I type my password and click login the whole thing freezes and I have to REISUB
[12:24] <Ben64> ggherdov: ls -l ~/.Xauthority
[12:24] <secrettriangle> I can't even get to a VT
[12:24] <ggherdov> agent_white: wait, i'll do CTRL+ALT+F1 and check
[12:24] <ggherdov> Ben64: checking
[12:24] <agent_white> secrettriangle: Listen in on ggherdov's issue, sounds similar.
[12:24] <ggherdov> agent_white: unity-2d installed.
[12:25]  * secrettriangle has half a mind to install hackintosh and be done with it
[12:26] <ggherdov> Ben64: what with the .Xauthority file ? I have three of them. One ~/.Xauthority, and two other with some suffixes (like IDs).
[12:26] <agent_white> secrettriangle: Hang in there :) Always worth the learning experience.
[12:26] <agent_white> ggherdov: .Xresources / .Xauthority / .Xdefaults ?
[12:27] <agent_white> That's normal.
[12:27] <agent_white> secrettriangle: Can you access a TTY after login?
[12:27] <agent_white> secrettriangle: ctrl+alt+f1
[12:27] <agent_white> secrettriangle: Then do `startx`
[12:27] <secrettriangle> No, I can't
[12:28] <ggherdov> agent_white: no, ~/.Xauthority , ~/.Xauthority.FOO , ~/.Xauthority.BAR
[12:28] <secrettriangle> Ctrl+Alt+F1 does nothing but freeze the mouse
[12:28] <agent_white> secrettriangle: So you have a black screen but your mouse is visible and movable?
[12:28] <OerHeks> startx is so old, we use 'service lightdm start' now
[12:28] <agent_white> ggherdov: Odd, did you make those? Sound like backup files.
[12:29] <secrettriangle> agent_white: no, I get lightdm but can't login
[12:29] <agent_white> OerHeks: Oh lawd. I was using xinit until recently ;P
[12:29] <agent_white> (i3)
[12:30] <glcheetham> secrettriangle: can you please describe your problem again? I just joined halfway through but at a glance it may be a problem with your ~/.Xauthority, make sure the permissions of that file are right OR rename it to ~/.Xauthority.old as a backup and X will generate a new one
[12:30] <agent_white> secrettriangle: Hm? So you can see the usual lightdm, but when you enter your password, screen goes black but your cursor is still there?
[12:30] <agent_white> ^^
[12:31] <Ben64> ggherdov: well what is the output of the command i suggested
[12:31] <agent_white> secrettriangle: Pastie.org your `/var/log/lightdm` if you can as well.
[12:33] <ggherdov> Ben64: copypaste isn't possible. I can tell you: the file exists, last modification 15 minutes ago, permission 600 , I am the owner, size is 157 bytes... what other meaningful info you look for ?
[12:33] <Ben64> ggherdov: why isn't it possible? you just typed more characters than the ls command would have outputted
[12:34] <cia_> my name is jay
[12:35] <InteliBlentav> http://merrypixmas.com/
[12:36] <OerHeks> InteliBlentav, so you want us to click that?
[12:36] <agent_white> ggherdov: Remove it, as well as those other ".Xauthority.{FOO,BAR}" etc files
[12:36] <InteliBlentav> OerHeks,
[12:36] <OerHeks> !ot | InteliBlentav
[12:36] <ggherdov> agent_white: ok
[12:36] <InteliBlentav> check it OerHeks
[12:36] <InteliBlentav> then talk :)
[12:36] <Ben64> InteliBlentav: it is not on topic here
[12:37] <InteliBlentav> wtf
[12:37] <InteliBlentav> lol
[12:38] <agent_white> InteliBlentav: Just a heads up in the future, some #ubuntu folks like the discussion to stay purely about helptopics.
[12:38] <InteliBlentav> ty agent_white but no need for kick
[12:38] <InteliBlentav> lol
[12:38] <agent_white> InteliBlentav: Oh! Didn't know you were kicked. I disable those IRC messages. :P
[12:39] <Ben64> the topic here is strictly adhered to, and for good reason. theres a perfectly fine #ubuntu-offtopic channel for offtopic stuff. use that
[12:39] <InteliBlentav> yea
[12:39] <agent_white> secrettriangle: Have you removed your .Xauthority file as well?
[12:39] <InteliBlentav> but why kick lol
[12:39] <Ben64> ask in #ubuntu-ops
[12:39] <agent_white> InteliBlentav: Like I said, some folks REALLY don't like offtopic messages.
[12:39] <k1l> !guidelines
[12:39] <agent_white> Just go with it.
[12:40] <glcheetham> I'm experiencing a strange issue with my DNS resolution, every ~4 hours of use, my computer will start refusing to resolve addresses, with chromium hanging on "resolving host..." then running "sudo service network-manager restart" fixes it. Any suggestions?
[12:40] <k1l> if anyone got any questions regarding the channel guidelines feel free to join #ubuntu-ops and ask there. please keep this channel support only. thanks
[12:44] <j0hnsm1th> im getting a prompt for "unlock default keyring" in the greeter when i startup my pc. i was trying to get a usb 3g dongle to unlock automatically on login. how do i remove the prompt and/or the default keyring? i've tried deleteing everything in ~/.local/keyrings/* and removing the login keyring from seahorse, but no luck.
[12:45] <j0hnsm1th> oh im running 14.04 with all the updates.
[12:47] <fidel__> j0hnsm1th: i think setting an empty keyring password might do the trick
[12:50] <gordonjcp> afternoon
[12:50] <gordonjcp> in 14.10 is there a way to make Bluetooth not try to set a random PIN for pairing?
[12:50] <agent_white> j0hnsm1th: Are you able to get into your desktop?
[12:51] <agent_white> http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/07/disable-unlock-login-keyring-ubuntu-13-04/
[12:53] <j0hnsm1th> agent_white, im not using auto login, the prompt displays during the greeter
[12:54] <j0hnsm1th> fidel__, i think you've got the right idea, but when i shutdown/restart it prompts me again, and oddly the password is back to the original, ie not empty password
[12:54] <zot> is there a way to use iptables to kill an existing/established tcp connection?
[12:54] <gordonjcp> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-bluetooth/+bug/551950
[12:54] <gordonjcp> ^ this is exactly what I'm running up against
[12:55] <gordonjcp> I guess bluetooth just isn't supported then?
[12:56] <agent_white> j0hnsm1th: Set the keyring passsword to your user password instead of a blank one
[12:58] <j0hnsm1th> agent_white, thats what its set to currently
[12:58] <agent_white> Oh, you didn't set it to a blank password?
[12:58] <j0hnsm1th> i did, but when i shutdown/restart, its back to user password
[12:58] <ejk> hello
[13:00] <j0hnsm1th> agent_white, fidel__ , what files is the application seahorse operating on, can't i just remove all of those to get rid of the keyring so its stops prompting me?
[13:01] <jrtappers> Is all the UEFI Boot data stored on the HDD?
[13:03] <jrtappers> If there were any responces could they be repeated plz, I lost connection
[13:04] <j0hnsm1th> jrtappers, i was here the whole time, no responses... sorry :(
[13:04] <jrtappers> Don't worry
[13:04] <jrtappers> Just changing to an SSD, and couldn't remember if the disk holds all of the UEFI data, want to have a fallback if it goes wrong
[13:05] <agent_white> j0hnsm1th: http://askubuntu.com/questions/867/how-can-i-stop-being-prompted-to-unlock-the-default-keyring-on-boot/224777#224777
[13:05] <jrtappers> And if I can move the HDD to the CD port on laptop, or if that will make it point at the SSD instead of the HDD for the old records
[13:05] <agent_white> Check the third answer down.
[13:11] <j0hnsm1th> agent_white, i've tried those exact steps and it keeps resetting to my user password. my case is slightly different in that im getting the keyring prompt at the greeter, not after i login.
[13:12] <agent_white> Huh... before selecting a user?
[13:12] <MortezaE> Hi. suddenly indicator applet quited and i can't change language. Alt+Tab does't work. What to do?
[13:12] <j0hnsm1th> agent_white, yup! :)
[13:12] <MortezaE> * ALt+Shift i mean
[13:12] <j0hnsm1th> agent_white, during the greeter!
[13:13] <agent_white> j0hnsm1th: `rm ~/.gnome2/keyrings/login.keyring`
[13:13] <agent_white> Or did you already remove that and reboot?
[13:13] <j0hnsm1th> i removed /.local/share/keyring/* , but after reboot those files are back there
[13:13] <agent_white> Also check ~/.local/share/keyrings/ for "login.keyring"
[13:13] <agent_white> j0hnsm1th: Alrighty, check inside .gnome2
[13:14] <j0hnsm1th> theres only ~/.gnome2/accels directory
[13:14] <j0hnsm1th> agent_white, i was trying to automatically unlock a usb 3g dongle, and i created the keyring during the greeter screen, maybe i need to look for the greeter user's keyrings?
[13:15] <agent_white> j0hnsm1th: How did you create it inthe first place?
[13:15] <j0hnsm1th> agent_white, during the greeter screen there was an option to "automatically unlock this device" so i clicked it and created keyring through there, on the greeter screen
[13:17] <j0hnsm1th> so we are editing my users keyrings, but maybe its a keyring for the user that runs the greeter, im guessing?
[13:18] <tekk> hi guys, anyone know if the Broadcom NIC in the Late 2012 Mac Mini is natively supported in Ubuntu 14.04 yet? or whether it still requires patching?
[13:19] <Sonderblade> tekk: what kernel module is it using?
[13:21] <tekk> let me just double check (i can’t ermember)
[13:21] <agent_white> j0hnsm1th: Is the device still plugged in?
[13:22] <agent_white> j0hnsm1th: Check inside Network Manager to see if Mobile Broadband is in there.
[13:22] <j0hnsm1th> agent_white, yeah device is plugged in whole time
[13:23] <j0hnsm1th> agent_white, during all my tests i've left it unlocked
[13:23] <agent_white> j0hnsm1th: Ah alrighty! Yeah check inside Network Manager for it.
[13:24] <tekk> hmm
[13:24] <tekk> NeXtreme iirc
[13:24] <j0hnsm1th> agent_white, system tools > preferences > network connections? not seeing anything in there about automatic unlock or keyrings?
[13:24] <tekk> via the tg3 driver
[13:25] <tekk> 13.xx had tg3, but not the correct hardware device id's
[13:25] <tekk> 1686 is the id
[13:25] <tekk> modinfo tg3 | grep 1686      returns “pci:v000014E4d00001686sv*sd*bc*sc*i*” for me on a Ubuntu 14.04 VM i have… which is hopeful… but i wanted to double check
[13:26] <agent_white> j0hnsm1th: Network Connection -> Mobile Broadband
[13:27] <j0hnsm1th> agent_white, what am i looking for there? i dont see anything about keyring or automatic unlock?
[13:27] <nenad> hey guys. Any kubuntu users here? I'm looking for a well supported, stable and easy to use distro. So i'm wondering, is kubuntu a stable project or more of a pet-project of few devs? thanks!
[13:27] <agent_white> j0hnsm1th: Is the connection listed in there?
[13:28] <agent_white> j0hnsm1th: Edit the connection, look for the box for "available to all users"
[13:28] <ikonia> nenad: big strong team making it , stable
[13:28] <nenad> ikonia: thanks. and is 14.04 also supported for 5 years?
[13:29] <explosive> nenad: yes
[13:30] <OerHeks> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-14.04
[13:30] <ikonia> nenad: LTS = LTS for all
[13:30] <tekk> also, whislt i’m here, does anyone know any status of the USB 3.0 support on Ubuntu on Mac Mini?
[13:31] <tekk> is it still unstable?
[13:31] <ikonia> tekk: should be the same as any other USB 3
[13:31] <ikonia> it's an intel chipset
[13:31] <nenad> thanks. and what about muon software center? is it stable, or is it better to use something along the lines of synaptic etc.?
[13:31] <ikonia> nenad: its stable
[13:32] <j0hnsm1th> agent_white, ok i ticked it for "available to all users", still no effect. my keyring password at greeter keeps resetting to user password after i set it to blank
[13:46] <DarkAceZ> is there a way to get a written list of everything I've installed on this system? I'm asking because I'd like to copy that list and paste/install it all on another
[13:46] <DarkAceZ> or is that not recommended?
[13:47] <EriC^^> !aptclone
[13:47] <EriC^^> !clone
[13:47] <DarkAceZ> thanks, I'll give it a look
[13:50] <ravi_> hi
[13:50] <ravi_> I am new to ubuntu
[13:51] <ravi_> can we run android apps in ubuntu?
[13:51] <j0hnsm1th> fidel__, i found it, in /var/lib/lightdm/.local/keyrings/
[13:51] <j0hnsm1th> fidel__, once removed no more prompt in the greeter :)
[13:51] <fidel__> j0hnsm1th: nice ;=)
[13:51] <phre4k> is it possible to create a CD with some pre-installed additional packages, activated repos and changed configuration easily?
[13:53] <fidel__> ravi_: no - at least not out of the box. take a look on ARChon if you really need something like that.
[13:53] <ravi_> thanks fidel
[13:54] <fidel__> ravi_: but in general its a different ballgame ;)
[13:55] <ravi_> how to ARChon? it is not in sofware centre
[13:55] <ravi_> how to get ARChon?
[13:56] <ravi_> sorry, i do not get you
[13:56] <ravi_> I am not good in English
[13:57] <fidel__> its not a core function. the only thing i found for that is a hack based on chrome
[13:57] <fidel__> http://www.omgchrome.com/run-android-apps-on-windows-mac-linux-archon/
[13:58] <ravi_> OK, so then I first need to install chrome
[13:58] <ravi_> is there any difference between chrome and chromium?
[13:58] <ravi_> because i found chromium in software centre
[13:58] <ravi_> not chrom
[13:58] <fidel__> https://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/ChromiumBrowserVsGoogleChrome
[13:59] <ravi_> thanks fidel, Let me look at the link
[14:02] <phre4k> is there a preseeding gui or a simple tutorial for preseeding Xubuntu?
[14:10] <remugient> hello
[14:10] <kraftb> Hi ! Can someone help me with my kernel chaos?
[14:10] <remugient> is there any video-editing software for Ubuntu?
[14:10] <kraftb> I have a ton of different linux-image-bla packages installed and my /boot is already out of disk space
[14:10] <k1l_> kraftb: remove the old kernel packages you dont need anymore
[14:11] <kraftb> before my upgrade to trusty I always had to "rm *-3.13.0-INDEX*" the old kernel before an apt-get upgrade could work properly
[14:11] <kraftb> k1l_: How do I find them all? :)
[14:11] <k1l_> kraftb: "dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[14:12] <phre4k> kraftb: don't remove them via rm but via aptitude / apt-get remove
[14:12] <phre4k> remugient: search in the software center. There's for example OpenShot
[14:12] <kraftb> dpkg -l lists all packages. Not just installed ones.
[14:12] <kraftb> And "-L" doesn't allow a pattern
[14:13] <k1l_> kraftb: well, then pipe again through a grep for ii
[14:13] <k1l_> kraftb: "dpkg -l | grep linux-image | grep ii"
[14:13] <remugient> phre4k, I don't want to use a shotglass to open my anus.  that's dangerous.  haven't you seen one guy one jar?
[14:13] <phre4k> remugient: http://alternativeto.net/software/openshot/?platform=linux
[14:13] <phre4k> remugient: what?
[14:14] <phre4k> wtf was wrong with this guy?
[14:15] <k1l_> some come just in here for ranting and flaming. dont mind them trolls
[14:15] <kraftb> ok. Using cut and xargs did the trick
[14:15] <kraftb> Its now removing some 3.8 kernels also
[14:15] <kraftb> looks my ssd is spoiled with ancient kernel :)
[14:16] <zebra111> what kernel did you originally have kraftb?
[14:16] <kraftb> I don't know exactly. Just the default generic image of the old LTS
[14:16] <amadews>  Hy all
[14:17] <kraftb> Now I upgraded to the new LTS and had problems because I created /boot so small intially
[14:17] <SuperEddy> SUPEREDDY HAS ARRIVED!
[14:17] <eric_> Hi.   Since some updates last week (including plymouth and xfce4settings), when I reboot, I don't get a graphical environment.   I have to switch to the first text console (ctrl-alt-f1), login and do "startx" to get going.  Any ideas?
[14:17] <SuperEddy> !ops | waaaa
[14:17] <kraftb> Its an old mistake. Ten years ago you didn't need hundreds of MB for /boot because just the kernel was there.
[14:18] <kraftb> Nowadays (in ubuntu times) theres the boot image, a lot of modules for grub. etc.
[14:18] <amadews> one ask to all any one have a lenovo T530  if yes have the bios file for him in rom extension ?
[14:18] <kraftb> I guess I will make /boot half a GB from now on.
[14:18] <kraftb> But then having encrypted partitions doesn't make sense again :/
[14:18] <k1l_> you need a seperate /boot at all?
[14:19] <kraftb> My /root is on an encrypted partitions (using cryptsetup) and / and swap are in an lvm
[14:20] <kraftb> I had a separated boot back then to make the whole stuff easier. If I would have assigned enough space this would also be the case. But now I have a lot of problem because of the tiny /boot partition
[14:20] <user1353> excuse me.where i can found folders location of not use file?(such as junk file, temp, etc..).thx.
[14:20] <kraftb> (It's 128 MB)
[14:20] <pbx> user1353, what is your goal?
[14:20] <CatKiller> user1353: /tmp is a thing
[14:20] <zebra111> user1353 usually /tmp but some of the files may still be in use by running programs
[14:21] <gH05t> how do i disable apache server from starting up at boot.
[14:21] <browncoat> I'm trying to have my .Xmodmap executed on login/startup but it won't work. It works when I run it manually.
[14:21] <zebra111> gH05t http://askubuntu.com/questions/170640/how-to-disable-apache2-server-from-auto-starting-upon-boot-up
[14:23] <kraftb> So. Now all the unnecessary kernel packages are purged.
[14:23] <user1353> pbx, because my free space of /home increased . i want to delete unknown files.
[14:23] <kraftb> Which kernel image should I use for Trusty?
[14:23] <zebra111> user1353 if you want to free up some space, you may consider removing unused packages with apt-get autoremove
[14:23] <kraftb> or a manual remove :)
[14:23] <user1353> pbx, and i must know which the files can be delete without give system crash.
[14:24] <pbx> user1353, the primary temp dirs are all outside of /home.
[14:24] <kraftb> I found quite a bunch of packages I never used
[14:24] <zebra111> kraftb yes :)
[14:24] <kraftb> BTW: Where is a list of installed packages
[14:24] <CatKiller> user1353: you might benefit from running "du -hs ~/"
[14:24] <user1353> CatKiller, thx. but i need other folders
[14:24] <zebra111> I thought it was apt-get list but I'm not sure
[14:24] <CatKiller> and then drilling down to see what is taking so much space
[14:24] <kraftb> Ok. Maybe just dpkg -l | grep ii
[14:25] <user1353> zebra111, ok .thx. i will try use that command.
[14:25] <kraftb> But I remember from debian times that there was a list somewhere in /var/lib/apt
[14:25] <pbx> user1353, you can get a list of big files in /home like this: find /home -size +10M -ls
[14:25] <k1l_> kraftb: what about the linux-image-generic?
[14:25] <eric_> user1353, have you cleaned up the apt cache??   Usually "sudo apt-get clean" and "sudo apt-get autoclean" will free up some space.
[14:26] <kraftb> k1l_: Is this the default?
[14:26] <kraftb> I saw some linux-image-trusty
[14:26] <pbx> user1353, wait, what do you mean by "free space of /home increased"?
[14:26] <k1l_> kraftb: that is a metapackage which links to the default
[14:26] <user1353> pbx, thx will try it
[14:27] <draven33> i need some help  with compiz in ubuntu 14.04 , everyting works exept in 3dcube 3d windws are creating another cube  it's off center
[14:27] <user1353> pbx, * that i mean /home and anothers
[14:28] <user1353> CatKiller, i wiil try.
[14:28] <ccapndave> Heyho - has anyone used SANE with an HP scanner?
[14:28] <draven33> any setting with alighmet with the cube ?
[14:28] <draven33> sorry
[14:28] <ccapndave> I'm finding that it works fine with the flatbed, but if I use --source ADF all of a sudden the resolution goes right down
[14:29] <zebra111> ccapndave my hp printer's auto document feed's max resolution is lower than the max resolution of the flatbed
[14:30] <zebra111> not sure about your model though
[14:30] <user1353> CatKiller,"du -hs ~/" command , it is danger?, i have try but i canceled with ctrl+c because when i try, my harddisk led hardwork.i'm sorry. what is that?
[14:30] <ccapndave> zebra111: I don't think so - I've used it on Windows/OSX and it does high res through ADF
[14:30] <zebra111> ok
[14:30] <user1353> CatKiller,* work hard
[14:30] <zebra111> user1353 no, it is not danger.
[14:30] <CatKiller> user1353: yes it's analyzing the drive
[14:30] <ccapndave> zebra111: Anyway, these are super super low res, like one level of zoom makes it all pixelated
[14:30] <eric_> user1353, du command just reads and totals usage. Nothing dangerous
[14:31] <ccapndave> scanimage --mode Gray --resolution 300 --format=tiff --batch --source ADF
[14:31] <ccapndave> That looks ok, right?
[14:31] <eric_> ccapndave, what HP scanner do you have?
[14:31] <zebra111> maybe try --resolution 600
[14:31] <ccapndave> eric_: Its an Officejet Pro 8600 all in one thingy
[14:31] <user1353> zebra111,ok.
[14:31] <ccapndave> zebra111: It seems that changed the resolution has no effect
[14:31] <ccapndave> zebra111: I'm just going to double check that :)
[14:32] <eric_> Most HP scanners with document feeders have lower resolution for the feeder than for the flatbed.
[14:32] <eric_> The reason for the lower resolution is the scanner head stays fixed, and the document feeder moves the document past it, so the movement is less precise
[14:32] <ccapndave> eric_: This is crazy low though
[14:32] <ccapndave> eric_: I'm sure its not intended functionality from the scanner
[14:32] <user1353> CatKiller, ok . when i try "du" (without parametre) .the process is fast. but when i use "du  -hs ~/" it is slow.ok try again.
[14:33] <user1353> eric_,ok thx. i still try.
[14:33] <eric_> OK.  It shouldn't be that much different.  Which scanner are you using?
[14:33] <eric_> what model?
[14:33] <ccapndave> eric_: HP Officejet Pro 8600
[14:33] <zebra111> ccapndave did you check the document resolution with a program like gimp?
[14:33] <ccapndave> zebra111: I'll have a look in Photoshop
[14:34] <user1353> CatKiller, *ok i will try again
[14:34] <CatKiller> user1353: It goes at the same speed, "-s" means "summary" so that it doesn't print every single file
[14:34] <ccapndave> zebra111 eric_: So I used "scanimage --mode Gray --resolution 600 --format=tiff --batch --source ADF", but in Photoshop it shows the resolution is 75
[14:35] <zebra111> hm
[14:35] <ccapndave> With resolution 633x1050
[14:36] <zebra111> ccapndave maybe try scanning it in color
[14:36] <leeyaa> hello
[14:36] <ccapndave> zebra111: Ok
[14:36] <draven33> hey guys any setting to put 3d windows back on the cube in compiz ?
[14:36] <leeyaa> when does ubuntu run daily logrotate?
[14:36] <user1353> CatKiller, ok.thx. still processing..
[14:37] <Seveas> leeyaa: approximately 06:25
[14:37] <leeyaa> Seveas: why approximately
[14:38] <user1353> CatKiller, .process is finish. i get info just 2 column. size and path.
[14:38] <Seveas> the cron.daily run starts at 06:25, but logrotate isn't the first one in the list
[14:38] <Seveas> and if you use anacron, things are different still
[14:38] <leeyaa> ah i see
[14:38] <leeyaa> no i use crontab, default configuration for ubuntu 14.04
[14:38] <ccapndave> In color it goes completely bonkers - vertical striped lines of different colours over the whole page
[14:38] <leeyaa> i get it, thanks
[14:39] <zebra111> ccapndave that's weird; does color work on your windows computer?
[14:39] <ccapndave> zebra111: Yes, everything works normally on Windows and OSX
[14:39] <user1353> CatKiller, thx
[14:39] <ccapndave> zebra111: And it works normally from the flatbed with SANE
[14:39] <zebra111> hmm
[14:40] <ej> should i use a vpn?
[14:41] <ej> if im just at home
[14:41] <leeyaa> btw, can i setup logrotate to name rotated log files this way error.log-2014-12-04.gz instead of this way error.log-20141204.gz
[14:42] <ccapndave> zebra111: Ah - actually color is wrong in the flatbed too
[14:42] <ej> vpn or no?
[14:42] <zebra111> ccapndave try scanimage --test
[14:44] <user1353> zebra111, apt-get autoremove can i manually remove?
[14:44] <ccapndave> zebra111: https://gist.github.com/ccapndave/268c62955e9ae00a68a1
[14:44] <zebra111> user1353 apt-get autoremove will remove all unused packages
[14:45] <user1353> zebra111, ,ok .thx
[14:47] <zebra111> ccapndave something looks wrong; I'm not sure how to fix it though
[14:47] <ccapndave> zebra111: I don't really have much idea what any of that stuff means
[14:48] <user1353> zebra111, i will check first size before process and after process.for compare.thx
[14:48] <zebra111> ccapndave there might be a hp-scan driver; i'll check
[14:48] <MasterPiece> Seveas, Hi, The canonical answer received :) ( About Landscape and proprietary )
[14:48] <zebra111> user1353 it'll tell you how much it will remove at the beginning of the process
[14:48] <ccapndave> zebra111: Thanks :)  I've already installed hplip
[14:49] <ccapndave> zebra111: Not sure if thats a driver or what
[14:49] <MasterPiece> Seveas, The canonical say's : "Landscape itself is actually the only proprietary tool that we have. It does have API access and is the best tool for managing Ubuntu at scale.
[14:49] <MasterPiece> There is lots of free help and tools online and we suggest that you visit
[14:49] <MasterPiece> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu"
[14:49] <zebra111> ccapndave yeah that's the driver
[14:49] <user1353> zebra111, ok sir., thx .
[14:49] <MasterPiece> Seveas, be lucky :)
[14:49] <ccapndave> zebra111: I have a Debian wheezy machine hanging around too - I'll try on that too just in case
[14:50] <zebra111> ccapndave when you downloaded the driver, did you select the right distro, version and printer type/model?
[14:50] <ccapndave> zebra111: I just did sudo apt-get install hplip
[14:50] <zebra111> oh
[14:50] <ccapndave> zebra111: Then hp-setup, and it detected the printer
[14:50] <zebra111> Okay
[14:50] <user1353> eric_, thx.about clean and autoclean, i have save in notes. but now , first i try use autoremove.thx
[14:51] <javnut> http://pastebin.com/DWRTEUTy
[14:51] <javnut> why is this firing every second?
[14:51] <ccapndave> zebra111: Same in Debian wheezy
[14:51] <zebra111> hmm
[14:52] <Seveas> javnut: echo $RANDOM just before it. Does it always print 1?
[14:52] <zebra111> ccapndave is the color wrong in the flatbed on windows or linux?
[14:53] <ccapndave> zebra111: Only Linux
[14:53] <javnut> Seveas: good idea, I'll try it
[14:53] <zebra111> Yeah I'm not sure :( ccapndave
[14:54] <ccapndave> zebra111: Ah well, thanks a lot for trying anyway
[14:54] <ccapndave> zebra111: I'll keep on fiddling
[14:54] <OerHeks> ccapndave, in linux + photoshop?
[14:54] <ccapndave> OerHeks: With scanimage directly on the command line
[14:55] <draven33> need some help with compiz in 14.04  i activatewd dual loghin compoz and metacity an can't align the 3d windows on the cube they form outside the cube
[14:55] <zebra111> ccapndave try using aquire image in photoshpo on linux
[14:55] <ccapndave> zebra111: I haven't got Photoshop on linux
[14:56] <zebra111> oh
[14:56] <ccapndave> zebra111: I actually only have a command line
[14:56] <ccapndave> zebra111: Is there another non-GUI tool I could have a go with to help debug?
[14:57] <zebra111> try scanimage -L (to get all devices)
[14:57] <ccapndave> device `hpaio:/net/Officejet_Pro_8600?zc=HP843497ABD140' is a Hewlett-Packard Officejet_Pro_8600 all-in-one
[14:57] <eric_> I had a question way back, and I never saw an answer.  Since some updates last week (including plymouth and xfce4settings), when I reboot, I don't get a graphical environment.   I have to switch to the first text console (ctrl-alt-f1), login and do "startx" to get going.  Any ideas?
[14:58] <zebra111> ccapndave that looks right. I think something is wrong with the driver, maybe try getting it from http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install_wizard/index.html
[14:58] <ccapndave> zebra111: Ok, I'll have a go and let you know
[15:00] <draven33> hey anyone can help with my compiz isue?
[15:01] <j0hnsm1th> draven33, dont ask to ask question, just ask your question :)
[15:01] <zebra111> eric_ try http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/62722/start-x-after-automatic-login
[15:02] <ej> what firewall gui do u recomend ?/
[15:03] <draven33> 3d windows missplaced in cube efect on ubuntu 14.04  forms paralel to the cube , it's any setting to put them where they should be ?
[15:03] <OerHeks> !info gufw
[15:04] <zebra111> draven33 I'll look into it
[15:04] <ej> ty!
[15:04] <ej> is it userfriendly for noobs
[15:04] <ej> ?
[15:04] <DJones> 18/11-10/12/14
[15:04] <DJones> GRR
[15:05] <OerHeks> ej, sure, you will find it in systemsettings, enable it, and you are safe
[15:05] <draven33> thanks in advance  it is frustrating and i hate missaligment  on compiz
[15:05] <ej> thanks much..
[15:07] <ej> is it safe to be admin all the time?
[15:07] <eric_> One thing I notice is that the user that is set for auto-login is showing "cannot connect to brltty at :0" in the .xsession-errors file, and "init: dbus pre-start process (1454) terminated with status 2"
[15:07] <zebra111> draven33 maybe try http://askubuntu.com/questions/86977/how-to-correctly-enable-desktop-cube-in-unity-3d
[15:07] <k1l_> ej: no, dont be root all the time
[15:07] <ej> ok..
[15:07] <Gagnostic> xorg runs as root
[15:08] <BluesKaj_> Hey folks
[15:08] <k1l_> Gagnostic: but its started by the lightdm. the user doesnt need to fiddel there
[15:08] <ej>  im also having a prob.. when i run something i dissapers?
[15:08] <k1l_> ej: ?
[15:08] <zebra111> ej could you expand on that?
[15:09] <ej> like  i just ran gufw nothing happend
[15:09] <k1l_> ej: what do you want to do at all?
[15:09] <ej> im on xfce lubuntu if that matters
[15:09] <cfhowlett> ej, normal behavior.
[15:09] <ej> ok so gfuw is working?
[15:10] <ej> no settings?
[15:10] <cfhowlett> ej more reading, less IRC.    man ufw will explain
[15:10] <ej> gufw*
[15:10] <ej> im having a hard time finding info
[15:10] <Gagnostic> im safe im running zone alarm in wine
[15:11] <ej> okk less chat ..ty
[15:11] <k1l_> ej: all ports on ubuntu are closed by default until a program "opens" them. so watch out for programs that listen to the ports.
[15:11] <k1l_> Gagnostic: stop that
[15:11] <ej> what gui to monitor
[15:11] <ej> ?
[15:11] <cfhowlett> ej, sudo ufw -status will tell you a little bit
[15:11] <cfhowlett> ej, monitor ... what?
[15:11] <Gagnostic> that would be netstat /b
[15:11] <ej> ok...thanks guys ...ill..
[15:11] <ej> great!
[15:12] <anonymous_> ok
[15:12] <anonymous_> e cineva roman
[15:12] <anonymous_> ?
[15:12] <k1l_> !ro | anonymous_
[15:13] <cfhowlett> ej, in a terminal: man COMMAND gives you a lot of info.  for example: man ufw gives you a bunch of info.  try it sometime!
[15:13] <anonymous_> wtf
[15:13] <cfhowlett> anonymous_, language.  clean.  always.
[15:13] <anonymous_> sunt romani pe aici
[15:13] <draven33> eu
[15:13] <anonymous_> tare
[15:13] <hemlis> dpkg-buildpackage -b
[15:13] <anonymous_> :))
[15:14] <hemlis> says not found
[15:14] <hemlis> why ?
[15:14] <hemlis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/foo2capt
[15:14] <k1l_> anonymous_: english only in here. thanks
[15:14] <anonymous_> da eu nu stiu cei cu chestia asta in care am intrat
[15:14] <anonymous_> ma poate ajuta cineva
[15:14] <Gagnostic> whats the equivalent command on ubuntu for netstat /b ?
[15:14] <zebra111> Gagnostic *maybe* ifconfig but I'm not 100% sure
[15:15] <k1l_> anonymous_: #ubuntu-ro
[15:15] <anonymous_> draven33 stii mai multe despre anonymous os putem vb pe mess
[15:15] <Gagnostic> ifconfig hahaha
[15:15] <zebra111> I'm not sure sorry
[15:15] <Gagnostic> thats ipconfig
[15:16] <draven33> ano
[15:16] <anonymous_> adica ano?
[15:16] <draven33> anonymous_ private ca astia nu stiu romana
[15:16] <javnut> Seveas: yeah, it fires every second
[15:16] <k1l_> !ro | draven33 anonymous_
[15:18] <Gagnostic> whats the equivalent command on ubuntu for netstat /b ?
[15:19] <Gagnostic> must be launch time
[15:19] <Seveas> javnut: so echo $RANDOM always prints '1'?
[15:20] <javnut> Seveas: no, I just put sleep random and then the echo
[15:20] <Seveas> javnut: that's not what I asked...
[15:20] <zebra111> javnut try typing echo $RANDOM a few times and attach the output
[15:20] <javnut> Seveas: I know, but I didn't echo it out
[15:21] <SchrodingersScat> also, you didn't call $RANDOM you called RANDOM
[15:21] <SchrodingersScat> or do $(()) negate that somehow?
[15:21] <Seveas> SchrodingersScat: that still works inside $((
[15:21] <javnut> SchrodingersScat: I believe it's supposed to
[15:22] <Seveas> javnut: so please do what I asked. Add an echo $RANDOM inside that loop.
[15:22] <SchrodingersScat> yep, seems to
[15:22] <javnut> Seveas: ok
[15:23] <SchrodingersScat> could store the $RANDOM% and check it
[15:24] <Seveas> SchrodingersScat: I actually have a different hunch, but don't want to accuse javnut of doing something stupid before I have evidence :-)
[15:24] <EriC^^> javnut: not sure if this is the reason why
[15:24] <EriC^^> but you have that random in a while loop
[15:24] <EriC^^> that probably runs 200,000,000 times per sec or something, so its bound to hit "1"
[15:24] <SchrodingersScat> but it should sleep longer than one at least once
[15:25] <Seveas> EriC^^: it doesn't if you sleep for the right amount of seconds :-)
[15:26] <SchrodingersScat> works as expected on my machine
[15:26] <javnut> Seveas: it returns nothing
[15:27] <Seveas> javnut: that explains then.
[15:27] <EriC^^> nevermind, i think it has to wait for the first sleep to finish to do another
[15:27] <SchrodingersScat> right
[15:27] <Seveas> you've probably set RANDOM to a specific value, once you do that, it loses all special properties
[15:27] <javnut> Seveas: I haven't, not in the script
[15:27] <EriC^^> Seveas: not really RANDOM=0; then echo $RANDOM still works
[15:27] <Seveas> EriC^^: try unset RANDOM
[15:27] <zebra111> try RANDOM=43938475 then echo $RANDOM
[15:28] <EriC^^> yeah it returns 0
[15:28] <EriC^^> if you unset it
[15:28] <Seveas> but yes, I was wrong with saying 'setting to specific value', only unsetting triggers this
[15:29] <Seveas> javnut: also, $RANDOM is a bashism, running the script with /bin/sh or with #!/bin/sh as shbang won't work.
[15:29] <javnut> Seveas: I'm running it with gnome-terminal -e
[15:29] <Seveas> well, don't.
[15:30] <zebra111> javnut is it on a server or a desktop?
[15:30] <javnut> Seveas: but what if I want to see the output?
[15:30] <Seveas> that uses system() I think, which uses /bin/sh
[15:30] <Seveas> javnut: run it with bash
[15:30] <Seveas> in a running terminal
[15:30] <javnut> Seveas: nope, I need to start it without a terminal
[15:31] <javnut> can I do gnome-terminal -e bash /path/to/script.sh?
[15:31] <EriC^^> javnut: you're running it in cron?
[15:31] <Seveas> javnut: just use #!/bin/bash as shbang
[15:31] <javnut> EriC^^: yeah
[15:31] <javnut> Seveas: yeah, I have it
[15:32] <Seveas> then how are you starting it?
[15:32] <javnut> Seveas: cron
[15:33] <Seveas> sigh...
[15:33] <Seveas> then how are you starting it with cron?
[15:33] <Seveas> what command are you running?
[15:33] <javnut> Seveas: scheduled tasks
[15:33] <EriC^^> you can use gnome-termial -e "/bin/bash -c '/path/to/script.sh'"
[15:33] <zebra111> javnut what command is being run in cron?
[15:34] <EriC^^> javnut: if you want to keep the terminal open after it exits you can use  gnome-termial -e "/bin/bash -c '/path/to/script.sh'; exec bash"
[15:35] <EriC^^> *gnome-terminal
[15:35] <EriC^^> sorry, gnome-terminal -e "/bin/bash -c '/path/to/script.sh; exec bash'"
[15:35] <javnut> zebra111: gnome-terminal -e /path/to/script.sh
[15:36] <javnut> EriC^^: I don't want the terminal to "stay open"
[15:36] <javnut> I just want it to open, which it doesn't
[15:36] <javnut> not unless I put gnome-terminal
[15:36] <EriC^^> javnut: yeah
[15:36] <EriC^^> what for?
[15:43] <ravigehlot> After I have exported a value into a variable like (X11_LIBS), do I need to run anything else on the system to have it take effect?
[15:43] <hak> Hello I am trying to find phrase in file with grep -R but looks like my regular expressions is not working. I am trying to search for ['s'] this phrase with this regex \[\'s\'\] but no luck. Could you please help me?
[15:44] <javnut> EriC^^: seems to have worked
[15:44] <zebra111> hak do you want to return lines matching the the letter s?
[15:44] <EriC^^> hak: you want to search for "   's'    " ?
[15:45] <hak> zebra111: yes, I used 'grep -R "phrase" /path to search for different phrases
[15:45] <zebra111> hak try grep s /path
[15:45] <hak> EriC^^: no also with [] eg.: "       ['s']          "
[15:46] <freeroute> hi, I'm on 12.04 and I was wondering how I could disable the cupsd service so that it wouldn't start up the next time I rebooted my machine.
[15:47] <hak> Looking for this $_GET['s']
[15:47] <freeroute> I remember reading conflicting reports on the net but I figured I'd come here to ask people who actually know stuff about Ubuntu
[15:47] <zebra111> hak so "$_GET['s']" (in quotes)?
[15:48] <zebra111> if yes then try grep "$_GET['s']" /path
[15:48] <EriC^^> grep \\[\'s\'] file
[15:50] <OerHeks> freeroute, echo "manual" > /etc/init/cups.override   >>> answer #1 http://askubuntu.com/questions/451883/not-able-to-disable-the-cups-service-using-boot-up-manager
[15:50] <Namevac> Hi folks, I was wondering if it was possible to add some action/code to execute just after specific apt package update is applied. I already have googled it and found that we can apply our own scripts right after apt-get upgrade, but it would get launched for anything but just the specific program update I want :x
[15:51] <Namevac> Have you more information to give me about that? :)
[15:52] <Namevac> (if not, I guess I'll focus on inotify)
[15:54] <freeroute> OerHeks: thanks, I assumed it would be something using the 'service' command or 'update rc.d' - so do I have to manually adjust config files of each different service to tell it not to start at boot/login?
[15:54] <Krapulat> Hello, I have problem between two servers. From server A I can’t ping to server B, but from server B I CAN ping to server A. From any other server, I can ping to both. Both servers haven’t any rules in iptables. What can be?
[15:54] <OerHeks> freeroute, yes.
[15:55] <cfhowlett> !server | Krapulat server gurus might have that answer
[15:55] <compdoc> Krapulat, you manually set the ip addresses?
[15:57] <freeroute> OerHeks: thx, IMHO I hope this process will improve in the future.
[15:57] <Krapulat> camako: The servers are physically far. If I do “ping IP-A” from server B, it lost all the packets. From any other server, if I do “ping IP-A” it works well. So the issue is between Server A and B.
[15:58] <Krapulat> compdoc*
[15:58] <quatrox> Does anybody know if there exist any howto for creating click packages for C libraries?
[15:59] <compdoc> Krapulat, far meaning in different buildings or cities?
[15:59] <Krapulat> compdoc: Countries.
[15:59] <compdoc> Krapulat, using a vpn?
[15:59] <Krapulat> compdoc: yes
[16:00] <compdoc> likely firewall rules
[16:01] <Krapulat> compdoc: “iptables -L” doesn’t show anything strange
[16:03] <Joshun> hi
[16:03] <applepi> Does anyone know why on ubuntu 14.04 core, the init scripts all run twice?
[16:03] <redpanda> hello. i am trying to run lubuntu-desktop on Xnest. when i run lxde i use DISPLAY=:1 lxsession. but there is no lubuntu-session. which is the launcher?
[16:03] <Joshun> why does installing gnome shell break the applications dash's ability to install software
[16:04] <Krapulat> compdoc: is there any other files to check out? The server has two public IP, and it only happens to one of them. It might be a rule from postfix?
[16:04] <compdoc> cant really say. being so far apart makes it pretty complex
[16:10] <jwash> hi evereyone i added the wine repo, but I'm getting an error, can someone please help me work it out? http://paste.ubuntu.com/9530057/
[16:11] <teward> jwash: did you do `sudo apt-get update` first, to make sure to get the updated list of dependencies and package versions and such?
[16:11] <jwash> I did that
[16:12] <jwash> here is the complete chain of events http://paste.ubuntu.com/9530078/
[16:12] <teward> jwash: are you on saucy or something?
[16:13] <teward> jwash: yeah, you're on Saucy, which is end of life, that may be one of the problems...
[16:13] <teward> !saucy | jwash
[16:13] <redpanda> hello. i am trying to run lubuntu-desktop on Xnest. when i run lxde i use DISPLAY=:1 lxsession. but there is no lubuntu-session. which is the launcher?
[16:17] <kazdax> web pages are taking alot more longer to open in mozilla
[16:17] <kazdax> some wont open
[16:17] <kazdax> i tried google .com and its takint forever to open
[16:18] <kazdax> but other sites like craiglist open quickly
[16:18] <teward> kazdax: sounds like an internet routing problem perhaps, but nothing really that we can fix here, if some sites work fast and others work slow
[16:19] <kazdax> in my vm for ubuntu
[16:19] <kazdax> it dosnt work properly
[16:19] <kazdax> but my host OS works just fine
[16:19] <kazdax> in my host OS i type google
[16:19] <kazdax> and it opens right there and then
[16:19] <kazdax> i try it on my ubuntu mozzla
[16:19] <kazdax> it dosnt
[16:23] <Josesordo> hi all
[16:23] <sergej> о чём тут говорят?
[16:23] <gabe> can anyone tell me how to get ubuntu to detect my external drive, it no longer shows up on the sidebar
[16:23] <Josesordo> I want to install a good linux distro for a old 512MB RAM laptop.. what is best? Lubuntu or Puppy linux?
[16:23] <cfhowlett> !ru | sergej
[16:24] <sergej> join #ubuntu-кг
[16:24] <sergej> join #ubuntu-кг
[16:25] <cfhowlett> Josesordo, "best"?  how would we know what's "best" for you?  but lubuntu should run on that device. here's a thought.  buy it, boot it and test it yourself.
[16:25] <sergej> join #ubuntu-ru
[16:25] <cfhowlett> sergej, >>> /join #ubuntu-r
[16:25] <cfhowlett> sergej, >>> /join #ubuntu-ru
[16:26] <Josesordo> "cfhowlett, you are right.. not the best.. its the most suitable for me xD
[16:27] <kazdax> so know why on my host OS google works ..but not on my ubuntu vm ?
[16:29] <HZun> are there any differences between the minimal ubuntu installer and the netboot ubuntu installer? and if so, what are they?
[16:29] <OerHeks> kazdax, maybe your VM needs more memory, hard to say like this
[16:29] <kazdax> its already has 2 gigs
[16:29] <Namevac> maybe you could try to do some tests like : route just to show if you could reach the default gateway.
[16:29] <Saleem> how do i configure network share folder from windows server to ubuntu 12.04 client
[16:30] <Namevac> Just to know, what is your VM network configuration?
[16:30] <kazdax> you eman try a ping ?
[16:30] <kazdax> bridged
[16:30] <Saleem> tell me anyone
[16:30] <kazdax> it used to work on NAT
[16:30] <kazdax> but then it stopped working on NAT and i changed it to bridge connection
[16:31] <Namevac> no, try to show your route table just to know if the default gateway to reach the outside of your VM network is correctly set
[16:31] <kazdax> maybe ill try to change it back to NAT and see if it solves the problem
[16:31] <kazdax> yea but other sites open
[16:31] <kazdax> except for google and a few others i tried
[16:31] <Saleem> how to access network resoucres
[16:32] <Saleem> how to access network resources in ubuntu 12.04 from windows server
[16:32] <kazdax> so how would i get the route table ..if it matters
[16:32] <Namevac> strange. Dis you tried some traceroute to google?
[16:32] <kazdax> no
[16:32] <kazdax> i could try that
[16:32] <Namevac> @vm # route -n
[16:33] <Namevac> @vm # traceroute google.com
[16:33] <mountainhermit> hello?
[16:34] <kazdax> okay i dont have tracesroute installed
[16:34] <Saleem> whats the procedure steps
[16:35] <kazdax> hmm i cant seem to install traceroute
[16:35] <kazdax> because it says connecting and isnt downloading anything
[16:35] <mountainhermit> how do i get ubuntu to detect my SD card again? it stopped do it
[16:36] <Namevac> kazdax, apt-get install traceroute doesnt work?
[16:36] <kazdax> well thats wha ti did ..but its stuck at zero percent
[16:37] <Namevac> so you may have a network related problem :p
[16:37] <kazdax> ill try activating NAT
[16:37] <kazdax> using NAT instead of bridged
[16:37] <kazdax> dont know if it helps
[16:37] <Namevac> (btw, I don't know what is your VM manager)
[16:37] <kazdax> workstation
[16:38] <Saleem> how to access network resources using ubuntu 12.04 from window server
[16:39] <kazdax_> okay its working now
[16:39] <kazdax_> i changed the configuring to NAT
[16:39] <Namevac> :]
[16:39] <kazdax_> but the NAT will stop working and i have to shift it to bridged
[16:39] <mountainhermit> guess im in the wrong channell
[16:39] <kazdax_> because this has happened before
[16:39] <Saleem> how to do tell me anyone
[16:41] <BluesKaj_> mountainhermit, try rebooting with the card plugged in
[16:41] <mountainhermit> ive done it numerous times, no luck
[16:41] <BluesKaj_> mountainhermit, or run mount to see if it's listed
[16:42] <mountainhermit> light flashes like its detecting it but it never does
[16:42] <daftykins> mountainhermit: "dmesg | tail" after plugging it in, in a pastebin please
[16:42] <daftykins> !paste
[16:49] <mountainhermit> okay, it shows the card when i bring up "drive" command, but how do I access it?
[16:50] <warmadewaart> :D
[16:52] <BluesKaj_> mountainhermit, rub sudo fdisk -l  to find the /dev/sdX, X being the card designation
[16:52] <BluesKaj_> err run
[16:52] <warmadewaart> what?
[16:53] <BluesKaj_> sudo fdisk -l  ..simple enough
[16:58] <tomcat> helllo
[16:58] <mountainhermit> I found it, but how do i get it to show up in the sidebar to access it?
[17:01] <BluesKaj_> mountainhermit, mount -o remount,rw /dev/sdX, whatever letter X was given
[17:05] <aLeSD> hi all
[17:05] <aLeSD> is it possible to set schroot to mount the realt /opt into the schroot ?
[17:06] <zebra111> is there an advantage to having seperate /tmp, /home and /boot partitions?
[17:06] <mountainhermit> tried it as: mount -o remount,rw /dev/sdb1     as it is listed as sdb1 was that correct? because it says "only root can do that"
[17:07] <bubbasaures> zebra111, temp and boot not needed, a separate home some like.
[17:08] <daftykins> mountainhermit: you can't mount as a user
[17:09] <BluesKaj_> mountainhermit, ok use sudo ,  i should have mentioned that
[17:09] <cfhowlett> zebra111, I've read no convincing argument to support such configurations
[17:09] <daftykins> mountainhermit: can you paste "dmesg | tail" as asked?
[17:09] <mountainhermit> in terminal window?
[17:09] <isantop> bubbasaures: You should keep /home together with / now. Ubiquity will allow you to reinstall/upgrade from the install disk without formatting. That preserves /home.
[17:09] <BluesKaj_> Nodas, yes
[17:09] <BluesKaj_> oops mountainhermit, yes
[17:10] <mountainhermit> command not found
[17:10] <bubbasaures> isantop, That is an opinion and one ubuntu does not officially advise, err and tell a noob not a experienced user and regular helper here
[17:11] <BluesKaj_> I have to go perhaps someone else can help mountainhermit...seems he needs it
[17:11] <mountainhermit> okay got that in
[17:12] <BluesKaj_> BBL
[17:12] <isantop> bubbasaures: In the installer, it will ask if you want to "Reinstall Ubuntu XX.xx" or "Upgrade Ubuntu XX.xx to YY.yy". That's what that option does.
[17:13] <phre4k> I just shut down my system and it takes ages with a black screen. How do I get to a console? C-A-D, C-A-F1-F7 and similar didn't work
[17:13] <bubbasaures> isantop, Why are you talking to me, I asked no question, this is not chat help those that ask for help.
[17:14] <bubbasaures> phre4k, To a console from? your bad shutdown?
[17:15] <phre4k> bubbasaures: yes
[17:15] <phre4k> did a hard reset now.
[17:15] <bubbasaures> phre4k, Probably not one from the shutdown, reisub would be the most I do
[17:15] <bubbasaures> !reisub
[17:16] <bubbasaures> phre4k, Sounds like graphic issues, not something I'm best help in
[17:18] <phre4k> bubbasaures: well, I now rebooted and got to a black screen again. May be not a shutdown but a startup issue...
[17:18] <phre4k> I'll look in the Xorg.0.log
[17:18] <bubbasaures> phre4k, Try a nomodeset or failsafe X boot and look at the graphics, or at wht you have done you have not mentioned.
[17:19] <phre4k> bubbasaures: disabled legacy option ROM in the UEFI, I hope this solves it
[17:19] <Mayer> Hi
[17:19] <RahulAN> Mayer, hii
[17:19] <Mayer> Hi rahul
[17:19] <phre4k> bubbasaures: cold booting works, only warm booting doesnt
[17:20] <bubbasaures> phre4k, Ah, no idea, really the info so far in all of it UEFI is the only key info so far.
[17:21] <phre4k> now warm booting works, too. Was an UEFI misconfig, ty anyway
[17:42] <phre4k> I installed with the GUI installer, why doesn't dpkg-get-selections get the installer options?
[17:43] <daftykins> probably something along the lines of not being booted into the install yet
[17:43] <phre4k> and can I use pam-auth-update to add pam_mkhomedir.so or do I have to do it manually.
[17:43] <phre4k> daftykins: well, I booted into the installed system already.
[17:44] <daftykins> oic
[17:44] <daftykins> oh not heard of that command before btw
[17:44] <daftykins> i know of "dpkg --get-selections > file"
[17:48] <anna64> good afternoon
[17:49] <compdoc> good morning
[17:51] <anna64> as you can see l'm just as my name says name and age living in Toronto Ontario Canada anyone else like me here
[17:52] <cfhowlett> anna64, this isn't a social channel.  ask  your ubuntu support questions
[17:52] <daftykins> anna64: that's nice but this is an ubuntu support channel, not a chat channel
[17:53] <anna64> great then how do l get to a chat location then ?
[17:54] <k1l_> !ot | anna64
[17:54] <bubbasaures> anna64, There were some Canadians hanging in the chat #ubuntu-offtopic long ago
[17:54] <anna64> ok thanks for all your help ....... l think .
[17:55] <bash___> Hey. All is there a wat to cat info from a log file from a given time frame say Dec 2nd from 4pm - 6pm?
[17:56] <goliath_> test
[17:56] <zebra111> !test
[17:59] <vic> hello
[17:59] <EriC^^> bash___: what do you mean?
[17:59] <EriC^^> hello vic
[17:59] <zebra111> I think bash___ wants to get all lines from the log file from a certain time range
[18:00] <EriC^^> yeah but what's the format of the time stamp
[18:00] <cfhowlett> bash___, more file | grep timestamp range         ??
[18:01] <vic> i am having some problems with monodevelo
[18:01] <vic> monodevelop
[18:01] <bash___> EriC^^: I mean. I want to cat or tail or sed a log to see what happened between 4 and 6 pm on Dec. 2nd.
[18:01] <vic> can anyone help me?
[18:01] <EriC^^> bash___: ok what's the timestamp look like?
[18:02] <bash___> Dec 15 16:00:00.000
[18:02] <cfhowlett> vic, monodevelo no doubt provides their own direct support
[18:02] <OerHeks> vic, ask your real question and find out?
[18:03] <EriC^^> bash___: grep "Dec 15 16:00:00.000.*18:00" /path/to/log
[18:03] <bash___> thanks EriC^^
[18:04] <EriC^^> bash___: grep "Dec 15 16:00:00.000.*Dec 15 18:00" /path/to/log
[18:04] <EriC^^> that would be better
[18:04] <zebra111> Is booting ubuntu from a usb-stick on a mac with full disk encryption unsupported?
[18:06] <daftykins> zebra111: using on a mac to start with is a bit experimental :P
[18:06] <daftykins> regardless of what people will tell you
[18:07] <zebra111> daftykins True (I'm using a vm right now, but it's a bit slow)
[18:07] <daftykins> zebra111: what virt tech?
[18:08] <zebra111> vmware
[18:08] <cfhowlett> !mac | zebra111
[18:08] <zebra111> Thanks!
[18:08] <daftykins> you won't find anything about FDE there methinks
[18:08] <zebra111> oh
[18:09] <daftykins> i actually added a page of an old model the other day, i installed trusty on a macbook late 2007 :D
[18:09] <zebra111> Nice
[18:12] <jwash> the upgrade to 14.xx seemed to solve the situation
[18:13] <daftykins> jwash: great! er... what situation? :D
[18:13] <daftykins> odd to hear of an upgrade fixing something rather than breaking something for a change
[18:18] <thorie> can someone help me fix my screen? it goes blank when i unplug the AC
[18:18] <zebra111> It's a laptop, right thorie?
[18:19] <thorie> zebra111: yea
[18:19] <zebra111> thorie do you know if your battery is working correctly?
[18:19] <thorie> yeah the battery should be fine, holds a charge well
[18:20] <zebra111> Does the screen turn black or are you still able to use the computer?
[18:20] <prizrak> welcome /server irc.karakonjul.com
[18:21] <thorie> zebra111: i think just the screen goes maximum dimness... if i plug it back in, everything is still there (although my network gets disconnected for some reason too)
[18:22] <zebra111> try http://askubuntu.com/questions/18967/monitor-turns-off-when-i-unplug-from-ac-power-how-do-i-stop-this thorie
[18:22] <thorie> zebra111: and my music keeps playing
[18:24] <thorie> zebra111: you're the man!!! thanks :)
[18:24] <zebra111> no problem thorie
[18:25] <daftykins> zebra111: you are a fine google substitute
[18:25] <daftykins> ;)
[18:25] <zebra111> daftykins yes
[18:25] <zebra111> I feel kinda bad but then again it does hep
[18:25] <zebra111> help*
[18:27] <bynarie> everytime i open a link outside of firefox, for example, IRC, it opens firefox and asks me to make it the default browser, even tho it is.. any ideas how to fix?
[18:28] <bynarie> ive used the sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser method, still asks to make it default
[18:31] <zebra111> bynarie does firefox prompt you (with a gui) to make it the default browser?
[18:32] <legg> Hello, thought I'd try this.  First time in IRC for about 15 years
[18:32] <bynarie> zebra111, yes but i think i got it figured out.. i just unticked the "prompt for default" on the firefox settings tab
[18:34] <nick07> i'm not able to get into my samba shared harddisk which is server by a sitecom x7 router.
[18:34] <daftykins> nick07: via what method?
[18:34] <nick07> the share name is /hd/ and i see it in the network, but i cannot open the folder
[18:35] <nick07> ehm method, what do you mean exactly?
[18:35] <daftykins> ok so you're using nautilus
[18:35] <daftykins> graphically trying to look at it
[18:36] <nick07> yes nautlius
[18:36] <daftykins> nick07: what i would do is install smbclient and try a test connect from the terminal
[18:36] <nick07> ok, let me see
[18:36] <nick07> one moment
[18:36] <daftykins> "smbclient //mypc/myshare"
[18:37] <nick07> smbcient isn't samab itslef right, because i have samba installed also on ubuntu
[18:37] <nick07> sorry typo
[18:37] <cagrijost> any of you guys here programmed in libusb from ubuntu?
[18:37] <daftykins> separate packages
[18:37] <nick07> ok i look in to the software manager
[18:38] <Nick_ZWG> How can I add extra mirrors to apt-get from the command line?
[18:38] <daftykins> Nick_ZWG: with 'add-apt-repository'
[18:38] <EriC^^> Nick_ZWG: ppa?
[18:39] <nick07> yes is installed
[18:39] <daftykins> nick07: so try "smbclient //router IP/sharename"
[18:39] <foca> ciao
[18:39] <nick07> ok...
[18:39] <foca> hello
[18:39] <foca> !List
[18:41] <sud> hey, i am getting a problem while upgrading from ubuntu 13.04 to a higher version... can anybody tell me what is going wrong?
[18:41] <nick07> iĺl get tree connect failed: NT code 0x00060002
[18:41] <EriC^^> !eolupgrades | sud
[18:42] <daftykins> sud: really, it'd make a lot more sense to just backup and clean install.
[18:43] <daftykins> nick07: does your router page mention anything about login requierd?
[18:43] <daftykins> *required - e.g. username + pass?
[18:43] <OerHeks>  13.04 >13.10> 14.04 i would go for a fresh install
[18:43] <nick07> yes i have, in the usb settings, it set on samba share and has a login (admin) and pass
[18:43] <fwaokda> what is my /usr/bin/local/ directory for?
[18:44] <daftykins> nick07: ok try "smbclient //router IP/share -U username"
[18:44] <nick07> ok..
[18:44] <daftykins> it should prompt for a password
[18:44] <sud> oh.. ok.. i think i will go for a fresh install...
[18:45] <kazdax_> i hate my iphone ...i like the andriod one thou
[18:45] <kazdax_> the iphone has a better sleeky outer shell
[18:45] <daftykins> kazdax_: smartphones are off topic here.
[18:45] <nick07> i'll get the same error as before
[18:45] <kazdax_> ahh k
[18:45] <Pici> !offtopic
[18:46] <kazdax_> is there a room for andriod ?
[18:46] <daftykins> nick07: take a look at the logs in /var/log for some more details possibly
[18:46] <daftykins> kazdax_: possibly *drumroll*... ##android ?
[18:46] <Pici> Its actually #android
[18:46] <cfhowlett> daftykins, that's crazy talk!
[18:47] <daftykins> cfhowlett: there's me and living dangerously on freenode again
[18:47] <notmorpheus> is chmod -R o-rwx . safe or am i forgetting something
[18:48] <EriC^^> notmorpheus: what do you mean safe
[18:48] <EriC^^> ah ok
[18:48] <notmorpheus> i changed umask and adduer.conf so that others perms would be disabled
[18:48] <notmorpheus> i am wanting to lock down what's already on the box heh
[18:49] <rypervenche> notmorpheus: Yeah, that would work.
[18:49] <nick07> i don' see anything weird in there
[18:49] <nick07> a log named log.%m
[18:49] <daftykins> nick07: what version of ubuntu is this?
[18:49] <notmorpheus> rypervenche: thanks
[18:50] <nick07> uhm, there is a ls command right
[18:50] <nick07> ehm
[18:50] <daftykins> wat
[18:50] <nick07> ehm a command to see the version
[18:51] <daftykins> "cat /etc/issue"
[18:51] <daftykins> or "lsb_release -a"
[18:51] <nick07> ow sorry
[18:51] <rypervenche> notmorpheus: Personally, I like to use the find command to give all of my files and directories specific permissions, but yeah. chmod will get it done :)
[18:51] <notmorpheus> rypervenche: true true
[18:52] <notmorpheus> rypervenche: i just wanted to make sure i wasn't forgetting something since most folders are r-x under / in Ubuntu
[18:52] <notmorpheus> for other i mean
[18:52] <EriC^^> notmorpheus: you're doing that on your home dir right?
[18:52] <notmorpheus> Nope!
[18:52] <notmorpheus> hehe
[18:52] <notmorpheus> i wanted to do it -R from root
[18:52] <EriC^^> oh my
[18:52] <EriC^^> what for?
[18:53] <nick07> it is 14.10
[18:53] <daftykins> >_<
[18:53] <rypervenche> notmorpheus: The only reasons you would need permissions on other is if you need others to be able to see the things in there. Often you would need execute on directories if you're using is as a web server document root.
[18:53] <rypervenche> notmorpheus: Doooooon't do that. Only do it in your home directories.
[18:53] <notmorpheus> rypervenche: ok, will stick to dirs under /home
[18:53] <notmorpheus> thanks
[18:54] <notmorpheus> it makes sense under home. don't want a cracked account to be able to see other people's home contents
[18:54] <notmorpheus> but i suppose for anything outside of there it doesn't make sense
[18:54] <rypervenche> notmorpheus: Yep. I always make my home dirs 700.
[18:55] <notmorpheus> wouldn't o-rwx keep someone on a cracked account from viewing system configuration files etc though?
[18:55] <notmorpheus> since they can't switch to root and also can't read as other (files owned by root:root)
[18:56] <rypervenche> notmorpheus: It would, but it would also keep some services from being able to view them.
[18:56] <notmorpheus> truth. ok. good enough then :-)
[18:56] <EriC^^> !info tripwire | notmorpheus you might find this useful
[18:57] <nick07> weird is, i can see the harddisk as a folder in network, but i cannot click it
[18:58] <daftykins> nick07: yeah, did you try and install some samba packages on your machine before trying to do this then?
[18:58] <nick07> i already had samba installed
[18:59] <nick07> is that a problem?
[18:59] <daftykins> not sure, there's just not much point unless you're sharing too
[18:59] <nick07> so you say, uninstall samba
[18:59] <daftykins> nope
[19:00] <daftykins> oh... what file system is on the disk? maybe it's not supported by the router
[19:00] <compdoc> I install samba just for the machine to participate on a windows network
[19:00] <daftykins> that's nice but not particularly relevant here
[19:01] <nick07> see this image, it's the same as my settings: https://www.gebruikershandleiding.com/bestanden1/567242/bg28.png
[19:02] <daftykins> nick07: except with a password entered?
[19:02] <nick07> yes, i entered a password, but i always shows blank
[19:02] <nick07> *it
[19:03] <daftykins> nick07: i can only suggest making sure you click apply, then try rebooting the router and ubuntu machine to see if anything changes
[19:03] <daftykins> otherwise i suspect your disk isn't set up right, as i don't think smbclient failing is a good sign
[19:04] <cromag> USB ubuntu install issue: Are there any specific "rules" on how to create an ubuntu usb drive ? - i have tried 2 different USB sticks but i get the same error on both. I checked the md5 sum to be sure it was not the ISO. I am using the universal USB installer. http://i57.tinypic.com/mic2eo.jpg is the error i get(can this be a bios issue ?)
[19:04] <nick07> so i go to network i see workgroup and click on it, i see smbserver (then url changes to smb://smbserver/ and then nothing
[19:04] <nick07> O this issue is a problem for months now, i did a reboot, firmware update other ubuntu's ect already
[19:05] <daftykins> nick07: firmware update on the router? have you factory reset it since?
[19:05] <nick07> some people said that i might be a harddisk root problem
[19:05] <daftykins> nick07: i would confirm from a windows computer if you can. i have a feeling it's not working for other OSs
[19:05] <nick07> yes factory reset yesterday
[19:06] <daftykins> cromag: hmm looks interesting, 'sde' - lots of hard disks in that computer?
[19:06] <nick07> mm, no windows... :(
[19:06] <cromag> daftykins: 3 ssd disks
[19:06] <cromag> well 2..
[19:06] <daftykins> cromag: is there some kind of memory card reader connected?
[19:06] <daftykins> that might account for drives from sda to sde
[19:07] <nick07> but maybe dumb question, but isn't a samba share great to use on linux and should i work perfectly?
[19:07] <cromag> daftykins: there is, thats where i placed the USB stick, both for writing and reading
[19:07] <nick07> *it
[19:07] <daftykins> cromag: oh good lord, pull that sucker out and connect the drive to the motherboard USB instead. preferably USB 2.0 -
[19:08] <cromag> this is connected to some USB on the back.
[19:08] <cromag> i'll give it a go either way - i'll get back to you :)
[19:08] <daftykins> nick07: yeah, but then we can't really trust silly router implementations
[19:09] <diamonds> yo, how do I get a service to not run on boot?
[19:09] <diamonds> tried: sudo update-rc.d mongod disable
[19:10] <nick07> could the problem lay in formatting the drive IN linux to fat32?
[19:10] <diamonds> got this: http://hastebin.com/raw/aqotutasus
[19:10] <daftykins> nick07: what does the router manual say it needs to be?
[19:10] <diamonds> assuming I don't wish to "LSBize" the script, is there a manual way to disable it that will allow me to start it manually if desired?
[19:10] <diamonds> stepping away from computer for a moment so TIA
[19:11] <nick07> fat 32/ntfs
[19:11] <daftykins> nick07: what's in the router logs too? anything samba related on that end>?
[19:11] <daftykins> it's definitely worth a go connecting the drive to the computer and nuking it properly to see if it makes a difference
[19:12] <cromag> daftykins: i might need to ask differently. My goal is actually yo install Ubuntu ON the USB drive. So i have 2 sticks, one to install from, and one to install to. Is there any more "correct" way to achieve this ?
[19:12] <daftykins> oh :( why on earth do you want to do that?
[19:13] <nick07> nothing
[19:13] <cromag> i really don't want to boot the live USB evertime..
[19:13] <daftykins> cromag: so these two SSDs you don't want to install to them at all? 0o
[19:13] <cromag> (ubuntu on the go)
[19:13] <cromag> correct
[19:13] <nick07> If i hang the usb ssd drive on the laptop, the only one that has read and write acces is the owner(me)
[19:13] <daftykins> so use Universal USB Installer to add some persistence to the drive - is that what you did?
[19:13] <nick07> group and other is set to none
[19:14] <nick07> could that be an issue?
[19:14] <daftykins> you can't have permissions on FAT
[19:14] <cromag> daftykins: i have not added persistence to it, as i thought the solution with the other USB stick would be better, as i can only set 4gb in the installer.
[19:14] <cromag> and the stick is 16..
[19:15] <cromag> cause of fat maybe..
[19:15] <ponyofdeath> anyone know why partman stops at No volume groups found when I am not using lvm? trying to preseed a box
[19:15] <daftykins> cromag: better way would be to boot from DVD then install to the one drive with the actual SSDs/HDDs in the system disconnected
[19:16] <daftykins> cromag: well no you can't install to FAT, you'd need to nuke the drive and create ext4 partitions. you'd need to create no swap with a flash drive too, else you'll kill it
[19:16] <nick07> so group and others set to none is defenatly not the problem?
[19:16] <ararob> can i get 2x MSAA (antialiasing) from the MESA intel driver ?
[19:16] <daftykins> nick07: plug the drive into the computer and run a "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then "sudo parted -l | pastebinit"
[19:18] <JavaJosh> #daftykins #linuxgrandwizard
[19:18] <cromag> daftykins: that was my initial idea (the dvd/cd version) and i just now found my stack of writeable stuff... I'll give that a go instead.
[19:18] <happyraver1958> is anybody here familiar with DNS (BIND9)?  I had a contact before but doesn't seem to be online right now
[19:18] <nick07> If you don't mind i will try that tommorrow, my dad had closed the connection which i had through teamviewer
[19:19] <nick07> excuse for that
[19:19] <diamonds> nm found it: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#disabling-a-job-from-automatically-starting
[19:19] <daftykins> JavaJosh: ;)
[19:19] <nick07> may i ask what you would try to do?
[19:19] <cromag> wow my dvddrive spins... im impressed
[19:19] <daftykins> nick07: see what partitions are on the disk, nuke it and start again (if it's blank)
[19:20] <daftykins> cromag: \o/ exciting times :)
[19:20] <nick07> ok, thank you, I will try to come back soon.. thanks for your time
[19:20] <daftykins> nick07: no problem :) cya
[19:20] <cromag> daftykins: oh yes, and rare times :) - i am sure i have not used it for burning over 2 years maybe..
[19:20] <happyraver1958> DNS anyone?
[19:21] <daftykins> !details | happyraver1958
[19:21] <happyraver1958> Details are here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2255175&p=13187916#post13187916
[19:21] <happyraver1958> nobody has answered to that and I had another contact test this for me, but he/she doesn't seem to be online right now
[19:22] <happyraver1958> issue is, my DNS server won't respond when using views under certain conditions, including reverse lookup
[19:22] <daftykins> happyraver1958: #ubuntu-server or use !alis to find a more relevant channel like maybe one for BIND
[19:22] <happyraver1958> let's give that a try, thanks!
[19:30] <grawolibie> hello?
[19:30] <daftykins> yes?
[19:30] <grawolibie> first time user
[19:30] <Demon_Jester> Hey guys how can I tell which grep version I have? I tried grep --version and -v is for something else.
[19:30] <daftykins> grawolibie: ok, welcome to the support channel. questions only in here
[19:31] <grawolibie> ok
[19:31] <norby> grep -V
[19:31] <daftykins>  /join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything else
[19:31] <grawolibie> what topics in ubuntu can i ask here?
[19:31] <norby> or grep --version
[19:31] <Demon_Jester> grep --version doesnt work for me though
[19:31] <daftykins> grawolibie: ones relating to support, "how do i..." "i have a problem with..."
[19:32] <grawolibie> noob question, but i just downloaded virtualbox and would like to run windows xp on it. I do not have a bootable CD so how do i go about it?
[19:32] <Demon_Jester> grawolibie ISO file
[19:33] <grawolibie> thanks
[19:33] <daftykins> grawolibie: note the virtualbox also have their own channel, #vbox i believe
[19:33] <daftykins> s/the/that/
[19:38] <momomo> Is it possible to get a list of most recent installed packages so I can revert it back?
[19:38] <daftykins> you can't really downgrade
[19:38] <daftykins> there's an apt history.log file though i believe
[19:39] <akkad> is there a way to see the version of the available upgrade of a given package? I can see oracle-java7-installer want's to update, but it does not provide a version
[19:39] <k1l_> momomo: you can see in the apt history in /var/log
[19:39] <daftykins> akkad: that's 'cause it's more of a downloader, consult oracle
[19:40] <k1l_> akkad: apt-cache policy
[19:40] <akkad> I guess dryrun will have to suffice
[19:40] <daftykins> if you're unwilling to research your own tasks, yes.
[19:40] <raschy> Anyone know how I can access files on an Ubuntu parttion from a live USB? I've borked my DE and want to try to save my files.
[19:41] <akkad> I've "researched" my own tasks. trust me no one comes here without having exhausted other resources I assure you
[19:41] <bubbasaures> raschy, boot live and click on partition in home, you sure it's not fixable?
[19:42] <daftykins> akkad: lol, you've not been here long.
[19:42] <raschy> bubbasaures, it tells me something along the lines of it not being accessable
[19:42] <Ober> daftykins: one does not have to be hre long to know this channel :P
[19:42] <momomo> k1l_, thanks :)
[19:43] <daftykins> raschy: can you run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then "sudo parted -l | pastebinit" from your live session
[19:43] <daftykins> Ober: they do to see just how few people search before asking
[19:43] <raschy> yea sure lemme boot into it
[19:43] <bubbasaures> raschy, When, where....details are important.
[19:46] <raschy_> bubbasaures, here http://paste.ubuntu.com/9532155/
[19:47] <bubbasaures> raschy_, You want to direct that at daftykins
[19:48] <daftykins> oh my that's messy as all... *cough*
[19:48] <raschy_> indeed it is
[19:49] <daftykins> raschy_: "sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/sda10 /mnt" work?
[19:50] <earnThis> i have two nic's on the same network on configured with dhcp the other static but on the interface with dhcp can reach the internet, is this a ip conflict issue?
[19:50] <daftykins> earnThis: depends if you tried to give both NICs the same IP
[19:50] <daftykins> are they both connected to the same network? if so, why?
[19:50] <raschy_> comand seems to have worked
[19:50] <raschy_> *command
[19:51] <daftykins> raschy_: "ls /mnt"
[19:51] <daftykins> should see your usual / contents
[19:51] <earnThis> daftykins: well i know they don't have the same IP right now but I think the static IP might fall in the range of DHCP IP's
[19:51] <raschy_> yep seems to be all there
[19:52] <daftykins> earnThis: yeah that's a bad move. why would you have TWO connections to the same network? :P
[19:52] <daftykins> raschy_: cool, backing up to that 1TB WD my passport is it?
[19:52] <raschy_> yep
[19:52] <daftykins> as it's NTFS that won't maintain permissions
[19:52] <daftykins> so you may have some fun there
[19:52] <daftykins> but copy and paste, then restore, then chmod + chown will put that right
[19:53] <earnThis> daftykins: I working with a lab network and its my only way out to the internet
[19:53] <daftykins> earnThis: ok but you should use a different subnet for the second NIC and enable IP forwarding.
[19:54] <daftykins> or just bridge
[19:55] <earnThis> daftykins: is there a way to quickly show what my dhcp range is so i can know not to statically set IP's in there?
[19:55] <daftykins> yeah, on your router web admin.
[19:55] <daftykins> you can't know the DHCP scope externally
[19:58] <g_x_chats> hey, im trying to run windows xp on virtual box
[19:58] <earnThis> daftykins: interesting.  back to what you said before about ip forwarding/ different subnet -- wouldnt changing my subnet take me off my lad network?
[19:58] <daftykins> g_x_chats: welcome back. as mentioned before, #vbox
[19:59] <g_x_chats> ive downloaded the iso file, and tried to run it on virtualbox, but it kept saying "fatal error, bootable media not found
[19:59] <g_x_chats> can someone guide me through installing windows xp
[19:59] <daftykins> earnThis: what kinda stuff are you running exactly?
[19:59] <k1l_> g_x_chats: you need to choose it inside the vbox settings as startmedia
[19:59] <daftykins> g_x_chats: no. join the #vbox channel or ##windows like i said
[20:00] <g_x_chats> oh ok
[20:00] <earnThis> daftykins: hardware ? or what am I trying to do overall?
[20:00] <daftykins> earnThis: what's going on with the lab?
[20:01] <earnThis> daftykins: openstack on two isilon hardware nodes with dell switch
[20:02] <g_x_chats> sorry im back, but how do i join the vbox channel? im 100% new to this whole thing
[20:02] <daftykins> "/join #vbox"
[20:02] <earnThis> daftykins: thats the goal atleast
[20:03] <flexus> g_x_chats: your winxp image might not be bootable as a sidenote
[20:03] <flexus> g_x_chats: try to rewrite it
[20:03] <daftykins> g_x_chats: so why does it have to be behind your machine? only got the one network cable? :D
[20:05] <flexus> g_x_chats: and check bootorder after you generated the basic machine
[20:07] <mixxit> hey guys
[20:08] <daftykins> hi
[20:08] <mixxit> i wondered if you might know whether or not ubuntu does network management differently to debian
[20:08] <mixxit> i added a second nic and went to network interfaces but i am not sure if this is being managed by something else
[20:08] <mixxit> command line only install
[20:08] <daftykins> server, then?
[20:08] <mixxit> its 14.04.1 lts
[20:09] <daftykins> yeah but - you installed from the server ISO yes?
[20:09] <mixxit> maybe its been a while ago :)
[20:09] <mixxit> how can i check
[20:09] <daftykins> *blink*
[20:09] <daftykins> disk usage would be a clue :>
[20:09] <daftykins> <1GB
[20:09] <mixxit>  19213004   10601620   7612372  59% /
[20:10] <daftykins> "df -h" is always nicer
[20:10] <daftykins> anywho, i would have to say that serious servers would be manually configured in /etc/network/interfaces
[20:10] <mixxit> 11g used
[20:10] <mixxit> but i have installed a lot of crap over the months
[20:10] <daftykins> crikey
[20:10] <daftykins> well if it's got no X it's probably server
[20:11] <mixxit> ok its desktop i think
[20:11] <mixxit> well its the generic kernel anyway
[20:11] <daftykins> they use the same kernel these days
[20:11] <mixxit> ah
[20:12] <daftykins> if it had X, "sudo service lightdm start" would fire it up, then network-manager would handle the connections
[20:12] <mixxit> you were right
[20:12] <mixxit> # deb cdrom:[Ubuntu-Server 14.04 LTS _Trusty Tahr_ - Release amd64 (20140416.2)]/ trusty main restricted
[20:12] <daftykins> ooh
[20:12] <mixxit> so do i just go and edit interfaces as normal?
[20:13] <daftykins> yip
[20:13] <daftykins> though restarting 'networking' doesn't really work these days so you'd be best confirming things by doing a full reboot
[20:13]  * azaz is away: Я занят
[20:13] <daftykins> as odd as it sounds, given we're talking Linux here
[20:13] <mixxit> wow i didnt even have to ifup it brought it up instantly after adding it to the interfaces file
[20:13] <k1l_> !away > azaz
[20:13] <mixxit> although strange i can't ifdown eth1
[20:13] <mixxit> says interface eth1 not configured
[20:14] <bekks> An interface not configured cant be unconfigured.
[20:14] <mixxit> so what brought it up i wonder
[20:15] <bekks> Bringing an interface up without configuring it isnt a problem :)
[20:15] <mixxit> http://pastebin.com/fRCSR7f7
[20:15] <mixxit> top line is me adding it to interfaces
[20:16] <daftykins> *shrug* just configure interfaces and reboot
[20:16] <daftykins> then enjoy
[20:16] <daftykins> ;)
[20:16] <mixxit> ok!
[20:30] <HZun> what is the difference between the generic linux kernels and the signed linux kernels?
[20:31] <daftykins> HZun: EFI secure boot ones probably
[20:34] <HZun> daftykins, hmm ok.
[20:34] <HZun> thanks
[20:34] <daftykins> np
[20:35] <stdaro> what is the status of CVE-2014-0096? its been out since may and http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2014/CVE-2014-0096.html indicates no patch for tomcat 7 in 12.04
[20:36] <lionrouge> hi !
[20:37] <lionrouge> adter updating 14.04 to 14.10 my unity has broken
[20:37] <k1l_> stdaro: did you file a bug?
[20:37] <lionrouge> i can login in graphical mode and i see desktop icons and can start programs with them
[20:37] <lionrouge> but i see no panels of Unity DE
[20:37] <lionrouge> and all windows have no titlebar
[20:38] <lionrouge> how can i fix it ?
[20:38] <Pici> stdaro: you might want to peek in #ubuntu-security and ask about it.
[20:38] <daftykins> lionrouge: test if the guest session works fine
[20:38] <lionrouge> daftykins: ok
[20:39] <lionrouge> daftykins: the guest session works !
[20:39] <daftykins> lionrouge: ok, temporarily "mv ~/.gconf .gconfold" and log out, then back in to see if it works
[20:40] <daftykins> (this is on your user of course)
[20:40] <daftykins> ah no that probably won't work
[20:40] <daftykins> lionrouge: if that doesn't, try "mv ~/.config/dconf ~/.config/dconfold" then logout + in
[20:42]  * curiousx is so heppy cuz he learned some CSS and now he use "stylish addon" and modifies webpages as he wants to see them:  http://i.imgur.com/RhLNTtK.png
[20:42] <daftykins> !ot | curiousx no thanks
[20:43] <lionrouge> daftykins: the latter helped !
[20:43] <daftykins> all done or still not quite right?
[20:43] <lionrouge> daftykins: thank you a lot !
[20:43] <daftykins> no problemo
[20:43] <EriC^^> !cookie | daftykins
[20:44] <daftykins> mmm a cookie sounds like a great idea right baout now
[20:44] <daftykins> about too
[20:44] <EriC^^> :)
[20:44] <chaospsychex> hi, I just purchased a laptop today and I'm disliking windows 8. whats the easiest way to install ubuntu ? i've enabled "legacy" booting in the UEFI settings and disabled secureBOOT. Will I run into problems re-sizing the win8 partition ?
[20:45] <daftykins> chaospsychex: neither of those steps were necessary
[20:45] <EriC^^> chaospsychex: if you want to keep windows you can use uefi with ubuntu
[20:45] <daftykins> ^+1
[20:45] <chaospsychex> EriC^^: why would I need to use UEFI to keep windows ?
[20:46] <chaospsychex> is there some kind of UEFI container partition on the hdd ?
[20:46] <EriC^^> chaospsychex: why would you want to remove uefi?
[20:46] <EriC^^> chaospsychex: there's the efi partition, yes
[20:46] <daftykins> you have to install ubuntu as EFI to dualboot with windows 8
[20:46] <chaospsychex> EriC^^: I want to resize the windows partition and install ubuntu
[20:47] <chaospsychex> daftykins: as efi ? what does that mean
[20:47] <EriC^^> chaospsychex: ok, enable uefi and boot a live usb, use gparted to resize windows
[20:47] <EriC^^> as efi means install it in efi mode
[20:48] <chaospsychex> EriC^^: i didn't disable it. i just enabled legacy booting and disabled secureboot
[20:48] <daftykins> undo those changes, boot win8, resize the partition to make space, reboot, boot ubuntu as EFI, install
[20:49] <ararob> anyone know how to open about:config in epiphany? i just get a blank white page :?
[20:49] <EriC^^> ararob: why are you using epiphany?
[20:49] <chaospsychex> daftykins: what? how can I resize the mounted windows partition from within windows ???? i want to use gparted to resize it
[20:49] <chaospsychex> at installation
[20:50] <daftykins> chaospsychex: diskmgmt.msc - go check it out :)
[20:50] <daftykins> chaospsychex: no point using 3rd party utils to do something that can be done natively.
[20:51] <ararob> EriC^^, because flash in chrome/chromium was thrashing my cpu, i disabled it, html5 video seemed to work better, but then, video pages were still crashing. Epiphany is rock stable
[20:51] <HZun> is the only purpose of UEFI secure boot, to harden the system form "physical hackers sitting at your pc"?
[20:51] <HZun> from*
[20:52] <daftykins> HZun: malware affecting the bootloader
[20:52] <xangua> ararob: well gnome core apps are all about simplicity, what exactly do you want to "configure"¿
[20:53] <HZun> daftykins, hmm ok. in practice, is it worth the effort?
[20:53] <ararob> xangua, change keyword url, ie search engine
[20:53] <ararob> i can't find any config files in /usr/share, not much in the docs about it either
[20:53] <xangua> http://blog.nixpanic.net/2014/07/change-default-search-engine-in.html
[20:54] <daftykins> HZun: it's what we've got, if Linux is your sole OS - you can install EFI or legacy, depends on your hardware
[20:54] <daftykins> EFI has benefits
[20:55] <EriC^^> ararob: ok, cool i've used it and i didn't have much luck with it
[20:55] <xangua> doesn't epiphany now uses duckduckgo¿
[20:55] <ararob> yes
[20:55] <ararob> it kinda sucks
[20:55] <HZun> ok thanks alot
[20:56] <ararob> "Unfortunately Epiphany uses Google as default search engine"
[20:56] <ararob> lol
[20:56] <xangua> well if you want to use google or bing, you can just a !bang to use them, !g for google, !b for bing ararob
[20:57] <xangua> !gi to search in google images, !bi to search in bing images
[20:57] <xangua> ooh sorry Ubbotu
[20:57] <ararob> lol
[20:58] <xangua> https://duck.co/help/features/bangs
[21:04] <ararob> xangua, thanks, it worked.
[21:10] <ararob> "EFI Boot Stub makes it possible to boot a Linux kernel image without the use of a conventional UEFI boot loader. By masquerading itself as a PE/COFF image and appearing to the firmware as a UEFI application, an x86 kernel image with EFI Boot Stub enabled can be directly loaded and executed by a UEFI firmware. Such kernel images can still be loaded and run by BIOS-based boot loaders; thus, EFI Boot Stub allows a single kernel image to work in any
[21:10] <ararob>  boot environment"
[21:11] <ararob> that's pretty cool
[21:12] <OerHeks> ararob, sccording to 'our' manual, x86 and UEFI can be a hassle, besides the question if all hardware is supported in 32 bit.
[21:12] <OerHeks> !uefi
[21:14] <grennich_> I think this may be a hardware issues but, anybody know why my server will just all of a sudden stop accepting all connection.  The server will still be on and I will have to manually reboot it to fix it. But after maybe 2 weeks or so the computer will not allow any connections to it, all current ssh connections are frozen, will not even accept pings.
[21:17] <papamoose> is this the proper channel to ask about the proper way to restart network interfaces. /etc/init.d/networking restart used to work. service network restart fails and ifup/ifdown works 50% of the time.
[21:20] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> can someone help me fix my repository list? http://paste.ubuntu.com/9532976/
[21:21] <k1l_> GuyThatNeedsHelp: whats wrong?
[21:21] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> gives me errors when i try n update
[21:21] <k1l_> please pastebin a "sudo apt-get update"
[21:22] <daftykins> ^
[21:22] <daftykins> we need to see errors to fix things :P
[21:23] <alesan> hello how do I partition and format an external disk that I want to share with window systems?
[21:23] <xangua> you should fix the error before they appear daftykins
[21:23] <alesan> I think I should use FAT, right?
[21:23] <daftykins> xangua: one day, i will
[21:23] <bekks> alesan: Just use NTFS.
[21:23] <OerHeks> alesan, fat32 or ntfs
[21:23] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Reading package lists... Error!
[21:23] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 497A0F381F691896
[21:23] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 358EC4CAB2D77075
[21:23] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 52BB8185076361AC
[21:23] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A6804EA8EAE0D85C
[21:24] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY D530E028F59EAE4D
[21:24] <unopaste> GuyThatNeedsHelp you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[21:24] <alesan> OerHeks, yes what "type" should the partition be?
[21:24] <daftykins> GuyThatNeedsHelp: wow, you've been here before yet you don't know the paste rule!
[21:24] <EriC^^> alesan: msdata
[21:24] <k1l_> GuyThatNeedsHelp: come on. you have been very oft in this channel and you know how to use pastebin.
[21:24] <alesan> EriC^^, what is the hex code I should use in fdisk?
[21:25] <EriC^^> alesan: 0700 i think
[21:25] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> k1l_ http://paste.ubuntu.com/9533007/
[21:25] <k1l_> GuyThatNeedsHelp: "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d" in a pastebin
[21:26] <ararob> grennich_, sounds weird. does your network card still blink when you discover this "behavior",  did you check dmesg ?
[21:27] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> k1l_ http://paste.ubuntu.com/9533028/
[21:27] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> WHY DOES IT NOT WORK
[21:27] <daftykins> papamoose: doesn't work anymore. reboot.
[21:28] <k1l_> GuyThatNeedsHelp: no need for caps. you know the rules in here, and its not motivating the helpers if you break them all
[21:28] <papamoose> daftykins: is there a bug report on this?
[21:28] <OerHeks> GuyThatNeedsHelp, go into softwarecenter > edit > sources and change mirror
[21:29] <k1l_> OerHeks: its the ppas that cause the error
[21:29] <jsheldon> Hmm, this is a nice trick.   I use skype on ubuntu, and needed a separate instance to log in as a different user.   It turns out that you can do on the command line: skype --secondary &
[21:29] <daftykins> papamoose: it's not considered a bug
[21:29] <jsheldon> and that will give you a new instance of skype
[21:29] <k1l_> i think your webupdate ppa manager got a button for getting that keys
[21:29] <OerHeks> k1l_, oh i see the 2nd paste now
[21:29] <papamoose> daftykins: wut? why not?
[21:29] <daftykins> papamoose: *shrug* never looked into it. if you find a bug let me know
[21:30] <rberg_> GuyThatNeedsHelp it looks like those are ppas, if you add the ppa with 'apt-add-repository' it will automatically add those keys that you are missing, or you could search a keyserver for those missing keys
[21:30] <k1l_> GuyThatNeedsHelp: "Try to import all missing GPG keys" in advanced options in your ppa-amanger
[21:31] <papamoose> daftykins: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ifupdown/+bug/1301015
[21:31] <daftykins> huzzah!
[21:31] <guntbert> papamoose: daftykins: no need to reboot,     sudo ifdown eth0;sudo ifup eth0    will do
[21:31] <grennich_> ararob: Yeah i should next time. dmesg good idea. Anything in particular to grep for in dmesg off the top of your head?
[21:32] <daftykins> i've seen proof that doesn't work for most too, guntbert
[21:32] <papamoose> guntbert: this doesn't work all the time.
[21:32] <guntbert> papamoose: you just showed the bug report, didn't know that, thx
[21:32] <Petazz> How can I turn on power saving mode when my charger is connected?
[21:33] <ararob> grennich_, well, anything related to iptables, or your network device i suppose. It sounds like your network driver/device could be failing...but who knows could be any number of things.
[21:33] <Authentic> hellooo
[21:33] <Authentic>  :D
[21:33] <earnThis> anyone have any experience installing openstack directly to and ubuntu install on physical servers?
[21:33] <Petazz> My laptop is nice and quiet when it runs on battery. How can I keep that?
[21:34] <papamoose> daftykins: guntbert: this doc is littered with ifdown, ifup: https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/network-configuration.html
[21:34] <Authentic> anyone have any knowledge of irc bots?
[21:35] <Authentic> having some issues assigning eggdrop as a bot on my server
[21:35] <tonyg_> does anyone have experience installing ubuntu server on newer dell servers? i have a poweredge 320 and can't get it to boot off usb
[21:36] <grennich_> ararob: yeah i think it's a hardware issue ok thanks
[21:36] <EriC^^>  Authentic: try ##eggdrop
[21:36] <ararob> grennich_, np
[21:36] <teward> Authentic: you have to run the bot, typically, per the instructions for use.  I run supybots instead of eggdrop, though.  Try ##eggdrop for eggdrop specific support.
[21:36] <guntbert> papamoose: well that should have been a warning for me - they are talking about ifconfig all the time too - which is deprecated for sevral years now
[21:39] <franco> hello
[21:39] <MrSavage> Hi
[21:40] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> :( when i do sudo apt-get install vim i get an ERROR.. Reading package lists... Error! E: Read error - read (5: Input/output error) E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[21:40] <MrSavage> GuyThatNeedsHelp: try sudo apt-get update
[21:40] <rap424> tonyg_: Did you set up the BIOS to boot from USB?
[21:40] <teward> GuyThatNeedsHelp: sudo apt-get update
[21:40] <teward> GuyThatNeedsHelp: rhn that command first, then try to install
[21:41] <zebra111> GuyThatNeedsHelp does it occur with just installing vim or any other package?
[21:41] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> :(
[21:41] <papamoose> guntbert: daftykins: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ifupdown/+bug/1301015/comments/33 # TL;DR is to edit the init script to actually do the work.
[21:42] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9533165/
[21:42] <daftykins> papamoose: yep just reading that now :) pretty horrified that it's going ignored, i thought that was another reason to this drama but i see it's just turning into an argument that's falling on deaf ears :(
[21:42] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> any packages it does thatr
[21:42] <k1l_> GuyThatNeedsHelp: what did you do?
[21:43] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> nothing
[21:43] <MrSavage> And this is why ubuntu needs a backup restore feature
[21:43] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> i was HACKED
[21:43] <MrSavage> For fuckups like this lol
[21:43] <k1l_> GuyThatNeedsHelp: so what did you do before all this? "nothing" is not the right answer
[21:43] <papamoose> daftykins: I dont mind them changing to upstart or $init_system, or some new way... it just maddening that the new way doesn't work.
[21:43] <daftykins> MrSavage: that language is not acceptable here. you should know this by now.
[21:43] <MrSavage> sorry, it's a habit
[21:44] <daftykins> you best fix it else you'll have to be shown the door
[21:44] <zebra111> GuyThatNeedsHelp http://askubuntu.com/questions/13065/how-do-i-fix-the-gpg-error-no-pubkey
[21:44] <tonyg_> rap424: yes. it shows the usb drive there as bootable media in the bios boot menu, but when i select it, it simply says no operating system is currently installed
[21:44] <k1l_> zebra111: yes, that is what i told him to do. he already used the y-ppa-manager
[21:45] <rap424> tonyg_: How did you create the image on the USB?
[21:45] <zebra111> What about sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 8BAF9A6F then sudo apt-get update?
[21:45] <OerHeks> tonyg_, maybe you need to set it in 2 places, boot device priority and hdd priority ?
[21:45] <k1l_> zebra111: i am more curious what did lead to this situation.
[21:45] <OerHeks> on my machine the usb appears under hdd too
[21:46] <tonyg_> using the ubuntu startup disk creator with an ubuntu 14.04 server iso
[21:47] <rberg_> zebra111 I think you will then need to add the key with 'apt-key add'
[21:47] <zebra111> rberg_ yeah I just quoted the instructions from the link so I'm not sure :(
[21:48] <k1l_> the last to error lines show a wrong dpkg status.
[21:48] <k1l_> *two
[21:48] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> zebralll: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9533233/
[21:49] <k1l_> GuyThatNeedsHelp: you already have the y-ppa-manager. you installed all the ppas with that
[21:49] <daftykins> *facepalm*
[21:49] <k1l_> GuyThatNeedsHelp: dont just blindly type commands into the terminal. this is the reason your system is messed up all the time.
[21:49] <zebra111> what about sudo apt-get install --fix-missing guythatneedshelp
[21:50] <k1l_> GuyThatNeedsHelp: as i said before: lauch the ppy-manager and press the button i told you
[21:52] <k1l_> GuyThatNeedsHelp: so give feedback if it worked or not.
[21:53] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> no ppy-manger = command not found. y-ppa-manager = command not found
[21:53] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> k1l_ Y
[21:54] <zebra111> what did sudo apt-get install --fix-missing give guythatneedshelp?
[21:55] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9533377/
[21:55] <zebra111> try http://askubuntu.com/questions/410045/the-package-lists-or-status-file-could-not-be-parsed-or-opened guythatneedshelp
[21:55] <k1l_> GuyThatNeedsHelp: "sudo mv /var/lib/dpkg/status /var/lib/dpkg/status.bad"
[21:56] <k1l_> "sudo cp /var/lib/dpkg/status-old /var/lib/dpkg/status"  then again "sudo apt-get update"
[21:56] <daftykins> same link i just found zebra111 +1
[21:56] <daftykins> and may i state for the record it was google result #1
[21:56] <zebra111> Haha :)
[21:57] <daftykins> who was it earlier that said all our users research heavily before asking? *whistle*
[21:58] <zebra111> You did daftykins
[21:59] <daftykins> er no.
[21:59] <zebra111> oh users research oops nevermind
[22:03] <zebra111> How did it go guythatneedshelp?
[22:05] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> $ sudo mv /var/lib/dpkg/status /var/lib/dpkg/status.bad -  mv: cannot stat ‘/var/lib/dpkg/status’: No such file or directory  -  WetDog@green:~$ sudo cp /var/lib/dpkg/status-old /var/lib/dpkg/status  -  cp: cannot stat ‘/var/lib/dpkg/status-old’: No such file or directory
[22:05] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> zebrealll WHY
[22:05] <zebra111> Just hold on
[22:06] <zebra111> Quoting the link try this (for starters): ls -l /var/backups/dpkg.status.*
[22:06] <zebra111> post result
[22:06] <k1l_> hardware failure in dmesg?
[22:07] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> is there a command to re-install ubuntu
[22:07] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> new?
[22:07] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> without using a usb n stuff
[22:07] <zebra111> Not to my knowledge guythatneedshelp
[22:07] <zebra111> don't give up yet
[22:10] <curiousx> GuyThatNeedsHelp: wget -O - https://www.dropbox.com/s/e00gqronjt3w3q2/gpg.sh | bash
[22:10] <jatt> ls
[22:11] <zebra111> you mean https://www.dropbox.com/s/e00gqronjt3w3q2/gpg.sh?dl=1 curiousx
[22:11] <zebra111> otherwise you're just going to get an html page
[22:16] <Chuck_Norris> i forget sudo -.-
[22:16] <zebra111> !sudo
[22:25] <Finetundra> hello, i'm having an issue where audio takes several minutes to  start after the system goes into sleep
[22:27] <Finetundra> does anyone have any ideas
[22:28] <zebra111> I don't think the system can play audio while it's hibernating finetundra
[22:29] <daftykins> don't sleep? :)
[22:29] <vooze> If i want to run a cronjob as another user, like sudo -H -u anotheruser should I put that in: sudo crontab -e or just crontab -e?
[22:29] <daftykins> sleep != hibernate
[22:30] <Finetundra> zebra111, i guess i worded that badly. the audio takes several minutes to come up after coming out of sleep/suspend
[22:30] <zebra111> oh
[22:30] <zebra111> daftykins what's the difference?
[22:30] <Finetundra> daftykins, its a laptop so i kinda want it to while the lid's closed so as not to waste battery
[22:31] <daftykins> mmm good luck with that
[22:31] <Finetundra> i'm figuring on just reinstalling.
[22:33] <zebra111> Try caffiene for linux finetundra (maybe)
[22:33] <Fuchs> Err ...
[22:34] <Fuchs> then you have to tell whatever desktop you are running to only lock the screen and not put it in sleep or hibernation when closing the lid
[22:34] <Fuchs> because in neither states you can have it play music
[22:34] <Finetundra> that would help on a desktop however as i said i'm on a laptop
[22:34] <daftykins> test a live session first, i wouldn't reinstall just for that
[22:35] <alix_> hi!!!
[22:35] <Finetundra> daftykins, already have, live sessions work fine.
[22:35] <godbod>  Hi Alix
[22:35] <daftykins> o rly
[22:35] <Finetundra> yep, was running one yesterday
[22:36] <daftykins> well those'd differ on kernels of course
[22:36] <daftykins> but i dunno
[22:36] <Finetundra> true. i also just updated. could that be a part of it?
[22:37] <daftykins> worth a test!
[22:37] <Finetundra> ok then. i'll be back
[22:40] <godbod>  hi
[22:43] <ponyofdeath> anyone know why preseed is hangs if the partman-auto/expert_recpipe string only has a single root partition without swap?
[22:43] <daftykins> recipe? recpipe?
[22:43] <zebra111> ponyofdeath when the ram is full and there is no swap, it is impossible to create new memory
[22:44] <zebra111> unless a program gives up its memory of course
[22:44] <godbod>  Hello all
[22:44] <daftykins> zebra111: you can't just reply to people with a generic secondary school level of IT education :|
[22:45] <zebra111> Sorry :(. How should I respond in the future daftykins?
[22:46] <daftykins> if you don't know the topic, don't
[22:46] <Finetundra> so kernel ending in 39 works fine for audio however i'm still greeted with an error and there are various other issues
[22:48] <epyx> what is the name of the calculator used in vanilla Ubuntu?
[22:48] <Goldwing> daftykins : c'mon, give him some credit, he is trying to help, and not everyone is a full grown linux guru
[22:48] <daftykins> i'm not advanced either, but you're just wasting someones time if you don't know the topic
[22:48] <zebra111> What daftykins is saying is true
[22:48] <xangua> epyx: gnome calculator
[22:48] <zebra111> I wouldn't want someone to just sorta-ish-not-really help me
[22:49] <ponyofdeath> zebra111: yeah but when you are doing lots of vm's
[22:49] <epyx> xangua, thanks
[22:49] <godbod>  hello
[22:49] <ponyofdeath> zebra111: i dont want the underlying storage to get taken down because vm's start swapping
[22:49] <Goldwing> aight, i stand corrected
[22:49] <Finetundra> i am also constantly getting the report error pop-up
[22:49] <zebra111> ponyofdeath Sorry, I'm not sure :(. Maybe someone else might be able to assist you
[22:50] <ponyofdeath> zebra111: thanks
[22:50] <epyx> is there a way to search for packages with apt-get?
[22:50] <daftykins> epyx: "apt-cache search <string>"
[22:50] <Goldwing> apt-cache search
[22:51] <epyx> thanks :)
[22:51] <epyx> and one more!
[22:51] <epyx> is it safe to delete the program central?
[22:51] <daftykins> !info central
[22:51] <epyx> ubuntu software center
[22:51] <squinty> epyx:  if you type just   apt-get  in a terminal all options are displayed
[22:51] <daftykins> why would you?
[22:51] <epyx> I don't like it
[22:51] <epyx> if I need graphical I use synaptic
[22:52] <squinty> epyx:  same for apt-cache, fwiw
[22:52] <k1l_> yes, you can delete the software center
[22:52] <daftykins> is the USC threatening your family, or telling your kids off? do you need the disk space?
[22:52] <epyx> LOL :D
[22:52] <epyx> well not really
[22:52] <epyx> but I don't see the point of having it there if it's not used
[22:52] <daftykins> these are the thoughts i go through when i consider removing a single package
[22:53] <Lunario> is it possible to see all cronjobs being carried out in a shell?
[22:54] <Lunario> i mean literally seeing them being executed
[22:54] <enyc> Lunario: hrrm not tat I'm aware of yut you may or may not know the output of crons gets sent in the local mail to the user ronunnig them
[22:55] <explosive> Lunario: just for testing you could run it in a gnome-terminal
[22:55] <enyc> Lunario: also, you could setup logging-wrapper within the script  etc etc.. ??   nt rreally clear what you are doing in what circumstance etc etc
[22:56] <Lunario> well, i want to make a cronjob for regurarly miroring a website (with wget). And I would like to have a terminal open all the time (with screen or sth. like that) in which I can see whenever wget is mirroring the website
[22:58] <epyx> are canonical making a profit yet on the Ubuntu project?
[22:59] <k1l_> epyx: no. but we focus on technical support in here. #ubuntu-offtopic for the chatter
[22:59] <epyx> :(
[23:05] <totem> epyx: join #ubuntu-women if you a girl
[23:08] <epyx> totem, LOL!
[23:18] <alesan> bekks, I used NTFS for this external hdd but it's ABSOLUTELY slow
[23:18] <alesan> less than one MB per second when writing
[23:19] <alesan> in FAT32 it was MUCH faster, but I have files that are too big for FAT32
[23:19] <alesan> some files are more than 30GB
[23:19] <bekks> alesan: then there is nothing you can do about it, unfortunately.
[23:19] <alesan> about how slow it is?
[23:19] <alesan> but why is it so slow?
[23:20] <daftykins> alesan: what about exFAT?
[23:20] <alesan> daftykins, what about it
[23:21] <daftykins> i don't know your original question but you said file size limit of FAT and slow NTFS, so why not exFAT? :P
[23:21] <alesan> isn't exfat also a user space driver?
[23:21] <alesan> I'd assume it is as slow as NTFS for that reason...?
[23:22] <daftykins> don't know what you're up to
[23:23] <alesan> I need to copy some big files to a external hard disk, to be used on windows also
[23:23] <daftykins> get a better disk
[23:24] <Chuck_Norris> alesan: mount that external hd as noatime -.-
[23:24] <alesan> daftykins, why? in FAT mode is very fast
[23:25] <daftykins> uh-huh
[23:25] <alesan> Chuck_Norris, but I am just writing few files
[23:26] <Chuck_Norris> noatime will improve permormance, idk how much faster will be, but...
[23:27] <EriC^^> it will only improve reading time
[23:27] <Chuck_Norris> performance*
[23:27] <EriC^^> alesan: does FAT have a 4g limit for files?
[23:28] <EriC^^> *doesn't
[23:30] <alesan> EriC^^, exactly, that is why I canno tuse it
[23:42] <MrSavage> Hi all, I'm wondering how I should change my default file manager?
[23:42] <MrSavage> I want to make it so that my firefox uses a different file manager and my recycle bin changes to the file manager too
[23:43] <MrSavage> is the best way to do this is use a different or customized window manager?
[23:43] <MrSavage> Because I tried making nemo as my default file manager before and it was very hackish and firefox would not change to the different file manager
[23:44] <EriC^^> MrSavage: maybe if you dpkg-reconfigure nemo it will set it
[23:44] <EriC^^> it's a long shot
[23:45] <MrSavage> EriC^^, what does that command do?
[23:46] <EriC^^> it reconfigures the installed package
[23:46] <MrSavage> EriC^^, and you think it will fix firefox?
[23:47] <MrSavage> EriC^^, it didn't work
[23:47] <EriC^^> it's a very long shot, cause i think it runs when you install nemo anyways
[23:49] <epyx> how do I reset an iPod Shuffle using Ubuntu (if it's even possible)
[23:50] <MrSavage> EriC^^, it didn't work btw
[23:50] <MrSavage> when i clicked recycle bin
[23:50] <daftykins> you'd have to log out and in for a change surely
[23:50] <MrSavage> ah
[23:51] <MrSavage> brb then
[23:51] <wiwa> hello everyone
[23:51] <Chuck_Norris> MrSavage: xdg-mime default nemo.desktop inode/directory application/x-gnome-saved-search   source:  https://sites.google.com/site/installationubuntu/tweaking-ubuntu/change-default-filemanager
[23:59] <MrSavage> Why do people like dolphin it seems kind of bad