| Mirv | sitter: doko generally has asked to keep PCH enabled. anyhow, I will follow whatever Debian decides too, and I'm curious to see whether they have the same problem or somehow magically avoid it. | 06:07 |
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| Mirv | for the moment I'm not blocked on it since we don't use qtwebkit and I made qttools ignore qtwebkit. for this week, I'd mostly just want to have a chance to see unity8 running on qt 5.4 | 06:09 |
| sitter | mh | 06:12 |
| sitter | oh on that note | 06:18 |
| sitter | Mirv: can you please push your qttools :) | 06:18 |
| Mirv | sitter: hmm sure, it's the ugly hack of removing qtwebkit for now, but it works. let me add a clear note about it first. | 06:24 |
| Mirv | sitter: pushed. | 06:25 |
| sitter | thanks | 06:25 |
| sitter | Mirv: ah, fwiw, I think I found the cause of the broken pch http://paste.ubuntu.com/9537448/ for some reason that doesn't get reported with the 3 million arguments used in the build normally | 06:43 |
| * Mirv pushed some more svg, multimedia, location too | 06:43 | |
| sitter | also for good measure I was unable to find any other build log anywhere on the internet that also used pch for Qt5WebKitWidgets, perhaps the problem is that suddenly it started to precompile for us ^^ | 06:44 |
| sitter | Mirv: hehe, cool beans, thanks | 06:44 |
| Mirv | sitter: right... pch has been enabled for all but arm64 in qtbase, but I don't know the logic of it being used for the submodules. I'd assume it's enabled if it's enabled in qtbase. | 06:45 |
| Mirv | sitter: pch disabling for just qtwebkit shouldn't be a problem | 06:45 |
| sitter | considering upstream doesn't test with pch I do wonder if we really should enable it at all ^^ | 06:48 |
| sitter | but yeah, qtbase pch would make qt_module.prf/qt_module_headers.prf force pch for all qt modules so I guess that explains it | 06:48 |
| * sitter slowly backs away from qtwebkit | 06:48 | |
| sitter | kubotu: newversion phonon 4.8.3 | 07:01 |
| kubotu | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1402947 | 07:01 |
| sitter | kubotu: newversion phonon-backend-vlc 0.8.2 | 07:01 |
| kubotu | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1402948 | 07:01 |
| sitter | kubotu: newversion phonon-backend-gstreamer 4.8.1 | 07:02 |
| kubotu | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1402949 | 07:02 |
| sitter | Riddell, yofel, shadeslayer ^ | 07:02 |
| sitter | shadeslayer: libphonon only contains debian relevant stuff so you can slap sune with the commits | 07:02 |
| soee | good morning | 07:42 |
| sitter | wgrant: can I please get a bump to 5g for https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/stage/+packages | 08:36 |
| wgrant | sitter: Done. | 08:36 |
| sitter | thank you :) | 08:36 |
| sitter | Mirv: qtsvg ... Missing build dependencies: libqt5opengl5-dev (>= 5.4.0+dfsg~) <- wouldn't >=5.4.0 be more appropriate? | 08:37 |
| Mirv | sitter: oh, I committed it like that since I'm pulling Debian's first qtbase upload with +dfsg in right now.. | 08:38 |
| Mirv | I'd have done the prune-nonfree myself but I wouldn't have gotten bit-for-bit identical tarball | 08:39 |
| sitter | Mirv: even so, the dfsgness of the source should have no impact on the compat, should it? | 08:39 |
| Mirv | sitter: it shouldn't but again Debian has the +dfsg dependencies in qtsvg, and eventually I will anyway just sync qtsvg from Debian instead of having a separate packaging for it in Ubuntu | 08:40 |
| Mirv | but if it helps your work, I can commit the +dfsg removal to the Ubuntu branch for now | 08:40 |
| Mirv | (pushed) | 08:41 |
| sitter | thx | 08:42 |
| sitter | Riddell, shadeslayer: someone should find an alitoh sysadmin and have them look into the IO blockage | 08:43 |
| lordievader | Good morning | 08:52 |
| bukai | Riddell: ping ping! | 09:19 |
| sitter | uh | 09:21 |
| sitter | Mirv: can you push qtxmlpatterns as well please :) | 09:21 |
| Riddell | hi bukai | 09:22 |
| bukai | Riddell: I have sorted out all the problems that were there before, except the design of the news page, It currently looks like ->http://wstaw.org/w/35YQ/ I am unable to modify it further. Any idea how to do it? | 09:23 |
| Riddell | bukai: looks find like that, what's wrong with it? | 09:24 |
| bukai_ | Riddell: I mean do I need to install wp on the server? | 09:27 |
| Riddell | sitter: closing your phonon bugs, those were in last week | 09:27 |
| Riddell | bukai_: yeah i guess so | 09:27 |
| bukai_ | Riddell: and what do i do with the news page? | 09:28 |
| Riddell | bukai_: how do you mean? | 09:28 |
| sitter | huh :O | 09:29 |
| sitter | Riddell: uscan'd? | 09:29 |
| sitter | cool, also very scary considering I forgot to announce the release last week ^^ | 09:29 |
| Riddell | that's how good we are | 09:29 |
| Riddell | actually a code-in student did it | 09:29 |
| bukai_ | Riddell: the design of the news post page is currently ->http://wstaw.org/w/35YQ/ how do I improve it? | 09:30 |
| bukai_ | soee: ping | 09:31 |
| Riddell | bukai_: looks fine to me, most people won't look at the news page they'll look at the feed on the front page | 09:32 |
| sitter | Mirv: patch disabling pch on affected architectures attached to bug 1395661 | 09:33 |
| ubottu | bug 1395661 in qtwebkit-opensource-src (Ubuntu) "Qt Webkit fails to build against Qt 5.4.0 on amd64 and powerpc" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1395661 | 09:33 |
| bukai_ | Riddell: ok, great. Btw are there any more things I need to implement? | 09:33 |
| soee | hey bukai_ | 09:33 |
| Riddell | bukai_: getting wordpress up and running and getting it to be a reasonable load on the server for one :) | 09:35 |
| bukai | Riddell: test.kubuntu.co.uk is also a wp theme right? so can i use the same database and just activate my theme? | 09:38 |
| Riddell | bukai: yes I think so | 09:38 |
| sitter | ^ needs performance and load profiling | 09:38 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: factoid updated | 09:38 |
| bukai | ovidiu-florin: ping | 09:38 |
| bukai | Riddell: ok, thanks. | 09:39 |
| Mirv | sitter: pushed qtxmlpatterns, and big thanks for the webkit patch! I was trying to search for such a parameter. | 09:39 |
| Mirv | I'll update webkit, tools branches as I get the fix verified | 09:43 |
| Riddell | bukai: bcooksley has some ideas on how to help performance | 09:45 |
| Riddell | or it can just be hosted on aws | 09:45 |
| bukai | Riddell: thats great so how do I improve the performance? | 09:46 |
| sitter | Riddell: that sounds expensive | 09:46 |
| bukai | Riddell: we do not need aws actually | 09:47 |
| sitter | what would be an option is putting static assets (i.e. images and css) on cloudfront or an s3 bucket | 09:47 |
| sitter | that should reduce load already quite a bit | 09:48 |
| sitter | question then is just how many concurrent connections apache is willing and able to take | 09:48 |
| sitter | hence the profiling need | 09:48 |
| sitter | without knowing what to expect it's hard to say how to make it not fall over on release days ^^ | 09:49 |
| bukai | sitter: we can easily know the load on release days | 09:50 |
| sitter | bukai: you'd probably have to ask canonical sysadmins what the current load peaks on kubuntu.org are | 09:51 |
| bukai | no I have added google analytics to it. So Riddell can tell us the exact load | 09:52 |
| bukai | sitter: ^^ | 09:52 |
| sitter | bukai: that would mean 15.04 needs to release with the old site though | 09:53 |
| sitter | unless you added it before the 14.10 release that is ^^ | 09:54 |
| bukai | sitter: I have finished with the site I just need to put it on the server | 09:55 |
| Riddell | bukai: dunno ask bcooksley (new zealand timezone) | 09:55 |
| sitter | yeah, but to make sure that the new server can handle the load we need to have metrics from previous releases | 09:55 |
| bukai | Riddell: do you remember the analytics config? | 09:56 |
| sitter | seems to me the existing kubuntu.org uses analytics as well, is that ours or canonical's? | 09:59 |
| sitter | Riddell: ^ | 10:00 |
| Riddell | sitter: it's ours | 10:03 |
| sitter | Riddell: has that been there before 14.10 release? | 10:03 |
| bukai | Riddell: on which server is the kubuntu.org hosted? | 10:06 |
| Riddell | bukai: a canonical server to which we don't have access | 10:15 |
| Riddell | sitter: about 24 hours before yes | 10:15 |
| sitter | Riddell: please be adding me to the analytics | 10:15 |
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| sitter | average load time of a page 2.5 to 5 seconds | 10:41 |
| sitter | oh my | 10:41 |
| soee | woot woot | 10:47 |
| soee | what page ? | 10:47 |
| sitter | kubuntu.org average | 10:48 |
| sitter | mh, bukai gone | 10:49 |
| soee | wrr there is ~7 separate css files, same with JS, concatenate them, minify, move JS to footer, compress code - be sure gzip is used | 10:55 |
| soee | also images can be optimized be stripping not needed data | 10:55 |
| sitter | sooo | 10:56 |
| sitter | peak on release day was 1245 (hourly value), so including a random number of people that would have analytics/js deactivated a worst case stress test would be 13k concurrent acceses | 11:11 |
| sitter | alternativley for more realistic stress testing ... average pages per session that day were 2.6, so I'd ceil that again to be on the save side | 11:12 |
| sitter | average session time was 2:16 minutes, so ideally one would distribute 1.3k sessions where each session loads 3 pages over the course of 2:16 minutes possibly randomized a la rand() %3/(2+(16/60%60)) or some such nonesense | 11:14 |
| sitter | depending on how one were to conduct the stress test one could possibly also directly mimic behavior in terms of which pageas are fetched (e.g. 31% of sessions would start on / and of those 22% would leave again...) | 11:15 |
| sitter | bukai, Riddell ^ | 11:15 |
| sitter | Riddell: also FWIW, 2 minutes session time sounds a bit disappointing, I think the release announcements might not have been snazzy enough | 11:16 |
| Pali | Riddell: ping, have you looked at my ppa? | 11:18 |
| Riddell | Pali: no sorry was hoping to have a helper in to do that, got vivid alpha 1 and plasma to do then I hoep to get onto it | 11:21 |
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| === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | https://trello.com/kubuntu | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | KF5 5.5 Status: http://goo.gl/5rMNsD | Applications 14.12.0 Status http://goo.gl/lFQbkR | frozen for alpha 1 | ||
| Riddell | !testers | alpha 1 candidates (I've no idea if todays image even boots) | 11:48 |
| ubottu | alpha 1 candidates (I've no idea if todays image even boots): Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56, parad1se, mamarley, alket, SourBlues, gclark, neo31 for information | 11:48 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: sgclark is not gclark :) ↑ | 11:49 |
| soee | well system works for me superb :) didn't try isos though | 11:49 |
| Riddell | isos is what needs testing | 11:50 |
| soee | Riddell: later at home, to much work atm :/ | 11:50 |
| bukai | Riddell: Can you give me ovidiu-florin email id? | 11:53 |
| Riddell | Ovidiu-Florin Bogdan <ovidiu.b13@ gmail.com> | 11:53 |
| bukai | Riddell: thanks | 11:53 |
| Riddell | bukai: https://paste.kde.org/pzc2sspd2 | 11:53 |
| Riddell | what sitter said while you were away | 11:53 |
| bukai | Riddell: I have seen it. | 11:56 |
| bukai | Riddell: but how do we change i.e. improve that?? | 11:58 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: aah copy paste error, I'll fix that | 11:58 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: sorry | 11:58 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: fixed | 11:59 |
| Riddell | thanks Tm_T :) | 12:03 |
| bukai | Riddell: ping | 12:13 |
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| Riddell | hi bukai | 12:19 |
| bukai | Riddell: if the load time of the current site is long the new will be longer as it has more images and stuff compared to the old 1 | 12:21 |
| bukai | how do we resolve that? | 12:21 |
| sitter | the problem most likely is badly compressed pngs and a general overuse of pngs | 12:22 |
| Riddell | bukai: I'd worry about settings it up before premature optimisation | 12:22 |
| sitter | I wouldn't worry to much about this for now | 12:22 |
| Riddell | sitter: oh it's tuesday, can I make plasma depend on qt 5.4 yet? | 12:23 |
| sitter | nope | 12:23 |
| Riddell | aww | 12:23 |
| bukai | ok , I am working on the setup part ! | 12:23 |
| sitter | almost there though my magic grep says | 12:23 |
| shadeslayer | whats magical about your grep | 12:24 |
| sitter | it is smarter than me, must be magic | 12:24 |
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| Riddell | frameworks all compiled in archive but arm and powerpc holding it up as usual | 12:49 |
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| bukai | Riddell: I have made changes to a blank html5 theme and created several page. Will the pages be an integral part of the modified theme? | 13:00 |
| Riddell | bukai: I'm not sure what that means | 13:06 |
| bukai | Riddell: No problem I have figured it out! :) | 13:08 |
| sitter | chrome tab movement is totally not fluxbox compatible :@ | 13:12 |
| shadeslayer | sitter: fluxbox? :O | 13:29 |
| sitter | it's the supremest box | 13:30 |
| shadeslayer | :O | 13:30 |
| mamarley | But kwin! | 13:30 |
| sitter | is not a box | 13:30 |
| sitter | fatal flaw right there | 13:31 |
| shadeslayer | true enough ^^ | 13:35 |
| mamarley | mv /usr/bin/kwin /usr/bin/kwin-box | 13:36 |
| Mirv | sitter: oh... one missing, thanks! | 13:42 |
| mparillo | Alpha 1 Candidate is not here: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/328/builds Is it just the regular daily? And does it ship 5.1.2 which is supposed to resolve https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=340966 | 14:18 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 340966 in general "Plasma 5 crashes maximizing VMware Player" [Crash,Resolved: fixed] | 14:18 |
| Riddell | mparillo: just set up http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/328/builds | 14:20 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 14:20 |
| Riddell | mparillo: alas most of plasma 5.1.2 is still building | 14:20 |
| Riddell | mparillo: but testing welcomed | 14:20 |
| sgclark | is there a amd64 build? I need to do a reinstall anyway.. | 14:21 |
| soee | there should be i installed it liek 2 days ago | 14:22 |
| soee | from staging then i think | 14:22 |
| mparillo | I will look again. Alas, I without the fix promised in 5.1.2, I can pretty much only test a clean install. Small (virtual) screen is a big handicap. | 14:22 |
| Riddell | sgclark: yep ↑ | 14:23 |
| sgclark | cool, backup up all my stuff first :) | 14:23 |
| sitter | qt54 build stack almost staged \o/ | 14:26 |
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| Riddell | since I started using git all my svn commands get run with -a and then I have to run them again without | 14:35 |
| Riddell | ScottK: bug 1400730 needs some ~ubuntu-sru love | 14:55 |
| ubottu | bug 1400730 in libxext (Ubuntu Utopic) "libxext fills up .xsession-errors log files" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1400730 | 14:55 |
| sitter | Mirv: it appears qtscript is broken again https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/stage/+build/6653113 | 15:08 |
| * sitter heading out for tea | 15:08 | |
| * shadeslayer ponders about exporting QT_SELECT=5 via pkg-kde-tools | 15:27 | |
| Riddell | ooh live image is working :) | 15:59 |
| Riddell | only armhf to go for kf5! | 16:34 |
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| kranzer | Riddell: hello, are you here? | 16:59 |
| Riddell | hi kranzer | 17:04 |
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| kranzer | Riddell: when will new tasks be published? | 17:08 |
| Riddell | dunno, I felt a bit overloaded with all the ones last week | 17:09 |
| Riddell | and I don't have any immediate ideas | 17:09 |
| Riddell | oh you could package calligra 2.9 beta | 17:09 |
| Riddell | but as I say I don't have much energy to mentor it | 17:09 |
| Riddell | you could test kubuntu alpha 1 candidates | 17:10 |
| Riddell | that would be cool | 17:10 |
| kranzer | Riddell: will it be as a task? | 17:10 |
| Riddell | yep, I can add that now | 17:11 |
| kranzer | ri | 17:11 |
| Riddell | iso testing here if you want to start http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/328/builds | 17:11 |
| kranzer | Riddell: I'm not able right now | 17:11 |
| kranzer | Riddell: I have a task | 17:11 |
| kranzer | Riddell: couldn't you tell me how I can find Nicolas Brisset? | 17:14 |
| Riddell | never heard of him | 17:14 |
| kranzer | Riddell: clear( | 17:15 |
| Riddell | nicolas.brisset@ free.fr | 17:15 |
| Riddell | says identity.kde.org | 17:15 |
| kranzer | Riddell: I don't know the channel( | 17:16 |
| Riddell | kranzer: for what? | 17:17 |
| kranzer | Riddell: task | 17:17 |
| Riddell | kranzer: what task? | 17:17 |
| kranzer | Riddell: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2014/5549624853004288 | 17:17 |
| Riddell | kranzer: it probably has no irc channel, the website points to a mailing list https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kst | 17:19 |
| kranzer | Riddell: oh, then could you publish that task? | 17:20 |
| Riddell | kranzer: the alpha testing one? I can ask an admin to do it | 17:20 |
| kranzer | Riddell: please, ask him) | 17:21 |
| Riddell | kranzer: asked, but go ahead and start | 17:21 |
| Riddell | worst case someone else claims it and we get two testers, no bad thing :) | 17:21 |
| kranzer | Riddell: it isn't published yet | 17:22 |
| Riddell | kranzer: right, I can't publish it, we'll need to wait for an admin to do that, but you can go ahead and start the task | 17:23 |
| kranzer | Riddell: please, give me links) | 17:24 |
| Riddell | kranzer: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/328/builds | 17:25 |
| Riddell | download iso images | 17:25 |
| Riddell | install virtualbox if that's what you want to use | 17:25 |
| Riddell | or get a usb key if you want to use real hardware | 17:25 |
| Riddell | and install, using different languages and the different install methods the iso.qa site asks for | 17:26 |
| kranzer | Riddell: ohhh, I can't install now | 17:26 |
| Riddell | kranzer: why not? | 17:27 |
| kranzer | I have to use different computers( | 17:27 |
| Riddell | you can use virtualbox or another virtual machine | 17:27 |
| kranzer | Riddell: virtual machines are very annoying and my computer starts lagging while using them | 17:29 |
| yofel | too much resources allocated to the VM? | 17:29 |
| bukai | Riddell: I spoke to ovidiu-florin , setting up will not be a problem as he has already installed wp on the server for his site! | 17:30 |
| yofel | hm? test.kubuntu.co.uk is a wp install in his dir, yes... | 17:30 |
| bukai | yofel: yes! can I create another user or only he can do it? | 17:32 |
| Riddell | anyone can | 17:33 |
| Riddell | bukai: what do you need? | 17:33 |
| bukai | I want to import my database and activate the kubuntu theme | 17:34 |
| yofel | bukai: user in wp or on the server? | 17:34 |
| yofel | wp | 17:34 |
| bukai | yofel: wp | 17:35 |
| Riddell | bukai: why not get your own install of wordpress? | 17:36 |
| bukai | Riddell: wont it burden the server if wordpress is installed twice? | 17:38 |
| yofel | well, the other one already has the posts, so just adding the theme there would be easiest | 17:38 |
| yofel | bukai: hardly if you don't access it | 17:38 |
| bukai | yofel: the newone also has all the posts! | 17:40 |
| bukai | just adding the theme wont be enough | 17:40 |
| bukai | database has to be imported | 17:40 |
| yofel | well yeah, I just said that the other one already has those | 17:41 |
| yofel | but adding a bunch of files and a mysql DB is hardly a burden on the server if nobody accesses the instance | 17:41 |
| Riddell | bukai: I set up http://test2.kubuntu.co.uk/ | 17:42 |
| Riddell | in your home directory | 17:42 |
| Riddell | you can install wordpress there if you like | 17:42 |
| bukai | Riddell: thanks, I will install wordpress there only! | 17:44 |
| bukai | Riddell: how do I import my database there? | 17:45 |
| Riddell | bukai: do you want a new mysql database? | 17:46 |
| bukai | yes | 17:46 |
| Riddell | bukai: do you know how to set up a new mysql database and mysql user? | 17:47 |
| bukai | no that I know , I want to know how to import an existing database | 17:48 |
| bukai | Riddell: Sorry I got disconnected , so I am not sure if you told me to how to import the database | 17:57 |
| Riddell | bukai: I set up a new databae | 18:00 |
| Riddell | dunno what you want to import or how to do it | 18:00 |
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| bukau | Riddell: I cant find any database called test2, there is one called test | 18:14 |
| Riddell | bukau: works for me, what are you doing? | 18:15 |
| bukau | Riddell: when you do show databases how many database are there? | 18:16 |
| Riddell | bukau: three | 18:17 |
| Riddell | https://paste.kde.org/pnkr1jhfl | 18:17 |
| * yofel installs some updates on that server. It's been a while since someone did that... | 18:26 | |
| * Riddell out | 18:39 | |
| soee | heyho | 19:45 |
| Riddell | hi soee are you able to do any testing this evening? | 19:56 |
| yofel | hm, we don't want to have a single-desktop pager in the taskbar, do we? | 20:08 |
| soee | Riddell: can you give me link to iso ? | 20:09 |
| yofel | at least not while it's useless, setting it to show desktop on click would be a replacement to the missing show desktop widget | 20:09 |
| yofel | soee: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/328/builds | 20:09 |
| soee | im not usre why but konversation always disables me notification for this channel | 20:10 |
| soee | so slow downloading :/ | 20:12 |
| soee | ok with kget it seems faster | 20:13 |
| yofel | hm, we should kill kubuntu-settings-active/-netbook for p5 | 20:22 |
| Riddell | yofel++ | 20:25 |
| yofel | on the positive side, upgrading works pretty well | 20:32 |
| Riddell | oh really? that's great | 20:34 |
| Riddell | I wonder if we should care about utopic plasma 5 users for upgrades | 20:34 |
| Riddell | I always said we wouldn't | 20:34 |
| yofel | I didn't test that... can do a run later | 20:35 |
| Riddell | I'm worried I've screwed up khelpcenter | 20:36 |
| Riddell | but uploaded kde-runtime with khelpcenter (not khelpcenter4) 14.12.0 | 20:36 |
| Riddell | I did delete it from -proposed but I fear the danger is done | 20:36 |
| Riddell | wgrant: do you know if there's a way out of that? | 20:37 |
| macstar | anyone knows when the kde 4.14.3 will make it into the kubuntu-updates or kubuntu-backports ppa? | 20:37 |
| yofel | Riddell: I see 4.11.97 khelpcenter in proposed | 20:37 |
| yofel | cache update... | 20:37 |
| yofel | *14.11.97 | 20:37 |
| yofel | hm, still there | 20:39 |
| Riddell | maybe I failed to delete something | 20:39 |
| Riddell | don't have my laptop here to check | 20:40 |
| yofel | khelpcenter | 4:5.1.2-0ubuntu1 | vivid-proposed/universe | source | 20:40 |
| yofel | khelpcenter | 4:14.11.97-0ubuntu1 | vivid-proposed/universe | amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, powerpc, ppc64el | 20:40 |
| Riddell | hmm I thought I'd deleted the binaries | 20:41 |
| yofel | macstar: for which release? | 20:52 |
| macstar | yofel 14.04 | 20:52 |
| yofel | hm, that seems to ended up in some black hole with all the releases lately :/ | 20:55 |
| yofel | *have ended | 20:55 |
| yofel | macstar: can't say when really, as soon as someone has time for it | 20:56 |
| macstar | yofel no hurry mate ;) just wanted to be sure it will still come :P | 20:56 |
| soee | do you also have this in VB when trying to boot image http://wstaw.org/m/2014/12/16/kubuntu-14.10-plasma6-about.png ? | 20:59 |
| soee | cant boot the iso on my VM, have this video problem each time | 21:09 |
| soee | ok i switched off both options in Acceleration tab, now it works | 21:11 |
| kfunk | another plasma 5 question: does krunner work fine for you? it's flickering heavily over here, like turning completely black after each key stroke (this has been the case all the time for me) | 21:15 |
| soee | kfunk: works pretty nice for me for a long time | 21:17 |
| kfunk | good to know, so it's really just me, probably NVidia related again :/ | 21:17 |
| soee | im on nvidia to :) | 21:18 |
| soee | optimus tech, nvidia profile on | 21:18 |
| kfunk | soee: hm, question: do you have desktop effects enabled? i.e. running in composite mode? | 21:18 |
| soee | kfunk: yes | 21:19 |
| kfunk | could you try turning them off and check again? | 21:19 |
| kfunk | shift+alt+f12 | 21:19 |
| soee | same | 21:19 |
| soee | works fine | 21:19 |
| yofel | *krunner* works fine, but the plasma popups when hovering over the panel flicker for me as well when they fade | 21:19 |
| kfunk | yeah, that looks odd here as well | 21:20 |
| kfunk | funny thing is, with compositing enabled, it gets a lot *better* | 21:20 |
| soee | im on propriety drivers 343 but 346 also worked well | 21:20 |
| kfunk | no flickering anymore both for the panel and for krunner | 21:21 |
| soee | woho sddm works in VM -.- | 21:29 |
| soee | im not sue if its because small VM window but when i open menu (kicker or how it is called) i see only favourites no any tabs to switch | 21:32 |
| kranzer | Riddell: hi | 21:32 |
| kranzer | Riddell: I've just claimed that task | 21:33 |
| kranzer | Riddell: what VM can I use? | 21:33 |
| yofel | Virtualbox or KVM is what you'll want to use usually | 21:34 |
| kranzer | yofel: Can I do it from Windows? | 21:34 |
| yofel | Virtualbox runs on Win too, yeah | 21:34 |
| kranzer | yofel: cause my ubuntu is a bit laggy | 21:35 |
| yofel | not sure why it would do that... but sure | 21:36 |
| shadeslayer | sitter: do you really need include /usr/share/pkg-kde-tools/qt-kde-team/3/debian-qt-kde.mk for konversation? | 21:53 |
| shadeslayer | or will the kf5 helper be enough? | 21:54 |
| wgrant | Riddell: You've got a bad binary version? We can make versions go backwards in some circumstances when there's no other reasonable option. | 21:59 |
| soee | Riddell: i can do more test tomorrow, today i have to go sleep soon | 22:13 |
| soee | *tests | 22:13 |
| debfx | sooo when can I expect a kubuntu spin with trinity? :P | 22:38 |
| yofel | uh, they have their own images, so that's already there? ^^ | 22:41 |
| debfx | if they load as fast as their screenshots it'll take years to download | 22:42 |
| yofel | heh, true | 22:42 |
| yofel | so, a plain utopic+next upgrade to vivid works fine so we should be good on that side | 22:43 |
| yofel | even has the correct default web browser, unlike the main upgrade | 22:43 |
| valorie | cool! | 22:43 |
| valorie | I might do this after xmas then | 22:43 |
| valorie | too busy atm with gci and such | 22:44 |
| debfx | wow, they even have their own launchpad instance | 22:48 |
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