[02:23] <calamari> hi. I suspended my tablet and now it wants my password. but, I cannot type anything because the on screen keyboard is not showing up.
[02:24] <calamari> what do I do?
[02:29] <sarnold> calamari: can you ssh in and file a bug? ubuntu-bug unity  I think ought to do it
[02:30] <sarnold> calamari: I don't know if there's any way to request the keyboard or break the lock though :/
[02:50] <calamari> Gave up and plugged in a keyboard
[02:50] <calamari> Disable the lock screen now
[02:50] <sarnold> oh, nice :)
[02:50] <calamari> I guess that will work
[05:53] <pitti> Good morning
[06:30] <larsu> good morning!
[07:07] <didrocks> good morning
[07:08] <larsu> lut didrocks!
[07:09] <didrocks> hey larsu :)
[07:21] <darkxst> hey didrocks, larsu
[07:26] <pitti> bonjour didrocks, ça va ?
[07:26] <pitti> hey larsu, hello darkxst
[07:26] <pitti> didrocks: do you still have something to upload for systemd? I'm about to upload 218-2 to exp, and merge to Ubuntu
[07:28] <larsu> good morning pitti, darkxst!
[07:28] <didrocks> evening darkxst :)
[07:28] <didrocks> pitti: no, nothing to upload from me
[07:28] <didrocks> pitti: ça va bien, et toi ?
[07:29] <pitti> didrocks: moi aussi, merci !
[07:38] <darkxst> hey pitti
[07:38] <darkxst> seems didrocks is the only one that has my timezone correct ;)
[07:39] <darkxst> larsu, any progress on gtk?
[07:41] <larsu> darkxst: working on some last theme fixes - I think Laney wants to upload after that
[07:41] <darkxst> larsu, ok good ;)
[07:43] <darkxst> larsu,  have you seen https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=735211 (re 3.16 has removed theme engine) specifically comment #10]
[07:45] <larsu> darkxst: yes, Company told me before it happened
[07:45] <larsu> darkxst: and actually waited until we could do all things in our theme without unico
[07:46] <darkxst> larsu, so it won't be a problem then?
[07:47] <larsu> darkxst: not for ubuntu-themes
[07:47] <larsu> I don't know about others
[07:48] <darkxst> ok
[08:26] <mlankhorst> morning
[08:27] <Mirv> pitti: if you'd have some time at some point, please see the trusty usb-creator SRU which seems to work fine https://code.launchpad.net/~yuningdodo/ubuntu/trusty/usb-creator/usb-creator.lp1361474+lp1300361-recreate-udisks-client/+merge/232852
[08:27] <didrocks> hey mlankhorst
[08:40] <mlankhorst> hey
[08:58] <willcooke> morning
[09:01] <didrocks> good morning willcooke
[09:01] <didrocks> still sick? :/
[09:01] <willcooke> mildly
[09:01] <willcooke> :)
[09:01] <didrocks> I guess you will get on shape just in time for holidays ;)
[09:01] <willcooke> I hope so :)
[09:02] <willcooke> There is something going round at the school.  Some people have had it for 3 weeks :/
[09:02] <Trevinho> oh, same curse hrere -_
[09:02] <willcooke> :(
[09:02] <Trevinho> -_-
[09:02] <didrocks> urgh :/
[09:04] <Laney> hey hey
[09:06] <didrocks> greetings Laney!
[09:06] <willcooke> o/
[09:08] <Laney> what's up
[09:38] <pitti> hey Laney, how are you?
[09:39] <Laney> pitti in multiple channels!
[09:40] <Laney> looking forward to the holidays
[09:40] <Laney> Christmas pub quiz tonight :-)
[09:40] <Laney> you?
[09:40] <pitti> multi-vector IRC attack mode!
[09:41] <pitti> last 2.5 days of work this year, too; I'm also looking forward to the 2 week break
[09:50]  * didrocks publishes ubuntu make 0.3 now that it's in the release pocket
[10:00] <didrocks> pitti: do you have time to talk about the keyboard console setup and fsck support in systemd?
[10:02] <pitti> didrocks: yeah, let's do it now
[10:02] <pitti> didrocks: want to HO?
[10:02] <didrocks> pitti: fine with me :)
[10:03] <pitti> didrocks: calling
[10:19] <Laney> took me 8 tries to type my gpg passphrase just then
[10:19] <Laney> security through untypability
[10:21] <mlankhorst> oh my security is security through amnesia
[10:24] <willcooke> :D
[11:04] <mlankhorst> I have a laptop for which I can't access the disk because I forgot the crypto password
[11:10] <willcooke_> hey willcooke get outta here already
[11:26] <willcooke> mlankhorst, after a few false starts I'm back up and running in U8 again
[11:26] <willcooke> mlankhorst, should I add your PPA yet, or keep waiting?
[11:27] <mlankhorst> sec
[11:28] <mlankhorst> should be safe
[13:10] <didrocks> pitti: any opinon on bug #1401984?
[13:12] <pitti> didrocks: yeah, I noticed that as well, seems a bug in how rsyslog creates the dir
[13:12] <pitti> didrocks: oh -- /usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/var.conf creates it as 0755 root:root, perhaps that's related?
[13:13] <didrocks> pitti: yeah, as it can't write to it
[13:13] <pitti> I'm not sure what creates that dir under upstart
[13:13] <willcooke> didrocks, can you tell me, is there a LP page/project for the system settings in u8?
[13:14] <willcooke> s/didrocks/anyone
[13:14] <didrocks> pitti: seems it's creating with the same right nevertheless
[13:14] <pitti> didrocks: oh, it's rsyslog.postinst which creates it
[13:14] <didrocks> willcooke: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-system-settings
[13:14] <pitti> didrocks: no, my dir here is also root:syslog 0755
[13:15] <pitti> didrocks: I've got a feeling that tmpfiles.d snippet needs its permissions fixed
[13:15] <willcooke> thanks didrocks
[13:15] <didrocks> willcooke: yw
[13:16] <willcooke> oh, cant log bugs there
[13:16] <didrocks> pitti: so, 2 fixes? tmpfiles.d to root:syslog and the perm as 775?
[13:16] <willcooke> ignore
[13:16] <pitti> didrocks: yeah
[13:16] <didrocks> willcooke: yeah, you need to log bugs at the package level
[13:16] <willcooke> thx didrocks - I saw the message about 0.5 of a second after I hit enter :)
[13:16] <didrocks> pitti: and then, seeing why I got some different perms than the rotated file
[13:16] <didrocks> on the syslog file itself
[13:16] <didrocks> heh :)
[13:18] <pitti> didrocks: I'll verify this and fix debian/patches/Bring-tmpfiles.d-tmp.conf-in-line-with-Debian-defaul.patch accordingly
[13:18] <didrocks> pitti: TBH, having it owned by syslog group sounds like just a hack as multiple daemons write there, they all should be able to recreate their file
[13:18] <pitti> didrocks: wouldn't they all run as syslog user?
[13:19] <desrt> good morning eŭropanoj
[13:19] <didrocks> pitti: Xserver, lightdm?
[13:19] <didrocks> pitti: lightdm doesn't forward to syslog IIRC?
[13:19] <didrocks> hey desrt
[13:19] <larsu> morning desrt!
[13:19] <pitti> didrocks: right, they all have their own log files; X runs as root, lightdm logs into /var/log/lightdm/ (but also as root)
[13:19] <larsu> you're up late today ;)
[13:20] <desrt> larsu: i've been up an hour already :)
[13:20] <didrocks> pitti: right, I know, we don't want to tackle that now, but sounds that we are just safe because most of those daemons run as root :)
[13:20] <desrt> waking up before the sun is nice during the winter because it means that you're awake to take in 100% of the tiny amount of sun we get at this time of year
[13:20] <pitti> didrocks: yeah, the others have to create their own subdir
[13:21] <didrocks> pitti: ok, so fixing to root:syslog and 775 for now?
[13:21] <pitti> didrocks: just tested that under sid, and it doesn't automagically fix things; hang on
[13:21] <didrocks> pitti: oh? I did chmod/chown here quite happily
[13:21] <didrocks> both under systemd and upstart
[13:22] <pitti> didrocks: yes, I mean editing /usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/var.conf
[13:22] <didrocks> ah
[13:22] <didrocks> yeah, I guess as the dir is already there and created by rsyslog postinst…
[13:22] <didrocks> it doesn't "fix" permissions, right?
[13:23] <pitti> didrocks: oh! no syslog group under Debian, rsyslog runs as root
[13:23] <larsu> desrt: dude, don't tell me about a tiny amount of sun you get. Try living nine degrees further north
[13:24] <didrocks> pitti: oh? interesting…
[13:24] <desrt> larsu: :)
[13:24] <didrocks> sun was nice, but sun was yesterday… :/
[13:25] <pitti> didrocks: yep, works fine; I'll fix it
[13:25] <didrocks> pitti: ok, rsyslog + systemd then?
[13:26] <pitti> didrocks: not sure yet; either I'll patch the original file in systemd, or find out whether later tmpfiles.d/ can override previous entries, then we can ship it in rsyslog
[13:26] <pitti> to keep the delta at one place
[13:26] <pitti> If multiple files specify the same path,
[13:26] <pitti>        the entry in the file with the lexicographically earliest name will be applied
[13:26] <pitti> great
[13:27] <didrocks> pitti: let me try if it's fixing the perms
[13:30] <pitti> didrocks: works fine here
[13:30] <pitti> didrocks: thanks for pointing out, I'll upload a fix
[13:30] <didrocks> pitti: hum, I wonder why it didn't "fix it" to root:root beforehand?
[13:30] <didrocks> as /var/log/ was root:syslog and /usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/var.conf mentioned root:root
[13:30] <pitti> didrocks: tmpfiles.d doesn't say that; - means "no change"
[13:31] <didrocks> ah
[13:31] <pitti> didrocks: if you say 0755 root root - it would change
[13:31] <didrocks> pitti: ok, so you are changing that as well, interesting that we can enforce this under systemd
[13:31] <didrocks> pitti: that won't fix the issue under upstart though, but ENOTAREGRESSION I guess :)
[13:32]  * larsu read ENOTANAGRESSION
[13:33] <pitti> didrocks: yeah :)
[13:33] <didrocks> larsu: depends on how much you can be offended by syslog :)
[13:34] <larsu> didrocks: not really tbh
[13:34] <pitti> didrocks: testing http://paste.ubuntu.com/9540423/ now
[13:35] <didrocks> pitti: seems logical (and seems systemd logic is always "first one wins")
[13:35] <pitti> didrocks: yes, that's documented
[13:35] <didrocks> pitti: want me to retry on my spare box?
[13:35] <pitti> didrocks: sure, if you want to; I'll toss you the debs once they are built
[13:35] <didrocks> good ;)
[13:37] <pitti> didrocks: http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/tmp/rsyslog_7.4.4-1ubuntu12_amd64.deb
[13:38]  * didrocks installs and reboots
[13:39] <pitti> didrocks: works fine here, I cleaned /var/log/* before; with current rsyslog, no new files; with that rsyslog, I get files and the dir perms are ok
[13:41] <didrocks> pitti: confirmed, work!
[13:41] <pitti> didrocks: merci ! /me dputs
[13:41] <didrocks> sweet ;)
[14:30] <pitti> didrocks: meh, I haven't the slightest idea why my test container gets killed when the VM runs under Jenkins, but not when I run it manually :/
[14:30] <pitti> didrocks: I suspect /etc/machine-id isn't properly initialized (unfortunately there's no journal that early in the boot process)
[14:30]  * pitti blames didrocks' new patch :)
[14:31] <pitti> (j/k, I call systemd-machine-setup manually before, it should be there)
[14:31] <didrocks> pitti: well, you can still check that by just disabling the .service ;)
[14:32] <didrocks> I don't think that unmounting or whatsoever will kill the Jenkins VM, apart from an apparmor thing seeing the service as doing bad things :p
[14:33] <davmor2> pitti: so let me get this straight there is no logging if systemd isn't up so how the hell do you find out whats wrong with the kernel that stopping systemd from starting ;)
[14:43] <pitti> davmor2: there's dmesg ;)
[14:43] <pitti> davmor2: but I don't see dmesg on test failure, and I'm not sure if it's working for containers (I doubt it)
[14:43]  * pitti waves, cu tomorrow
[14:43] <davmor2> pitti: ah that would do it :)
[14:43] <davmor2> pitti: o/
[14:51] <didrocks> have a good evening pitti :)
[14:52] <willcooke> if everyone could just agree on whether is single or double hyphens for passing in command line params, that'd be great
[15:07] <desrt> willcooke: there's a universal standard there violated only extremely rarely
[15:07] <desrt> double hypens for --gnu-style-long-args and single for single-letter flags
[15:08] <desrt> and only a few weird commands like tar which let you give options without using - at all
[15:08] <desrt> and a few others than take long flags with -, like 'find', but those are very rare
[15:08] <desrt> (and with find, you're really not giving commandline options as much as writing a small program.... as evidenced by the fact that '!' is one of the args you can give)
[15:29] <larsu> desrt: and all of the qt command line tools use single hyphen for long flags
[15:30] <willcooke> meeting time
[15:30] <willcooke> #startmeeting Desktop Weekly Meeting 2014-12-16
[15:30] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Dec 16 15:30:46 2014 UTC.  The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[15:30] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[15:30]  * willcooke is unprepared #
[15:31] <willcooke> please stand by
[15:31] <didrocks> <lift music>
[15:31]  * Sweet5hark stands by
[15:32]  * Sweet5hark hopes the lift music is creative commons. If the music is bad, at least its properly licensed.
[15:32] <willcooke> Roll call:  attente_ desrt  didrocks FJKong? Laney larsu mlankhorst qengho Sweet5hark tkamppeter
[15:32] <willcooke> I think thats everyone
[15:33] <mlankhorst> hey
[15:33]  * qengho is here.
[15:33] <FJKong> hey
[15:33] <willcooke> attente_, are you around?
[15:33] <willcooke> #topic attente_
[15:34] <attente_> backport gdk-mir patches: https://code.launchpad.net/~attente/gtk/refresh-mir-backend/+merge/244491
[15:34] <attente_> debugging pointer crossing events
[15:34] <willcooke> good stuff, thanks attente_
[15:35] <willcooke> #topic desrt
[15:36] <willcooke> he was here a minute ago
[15:36] <willcooke> we can come back around if needs be
[15:36] <willcooke> #topic didrocks
[15:37] <didrocks> hey
[15:37] <didrocks> Ubuntu developer desktop:
[15:37] <didrocks> * Released Ubuntu Make 0.3: http://blog.didrocks.fr/post/Ubuntu-Make-0.3-brings-Intellij-IDEA-and-Pycharm-support
[15:37] <didrocks> * Additional fix for the appmenu support in java application, now in archive (but stuck in proposed and some archs FTBFS) and MIR in progress!
[15:37] <didrocks> * Merged intellij and pycharm branches
[15:37] <didrocks> * Fixed medium tests that were failing. Tests are becoming hard to track due to the datacenter still being down for desktop VM tests.
[15:37] <didrocks> * Refreshed docker images
[15:37] <didrocks> Systemd:
[15:37] <didrocks> * Analyzed fsck <-> plymouth integration, as well as looking our ubuntu logo theme. After discussing with Martin, we'll go to more complex solution, but which is acceptable upstream and will remove quite some cruft in our plymouth themes.
[15:37] <didrocks> * Enabled the X fallback.
[15:37] <didrocks> * Some debugging around keyboard issue and logging (which was in syslog after all)
[15:37] <didrocks> Bluez:
[15:37] <didrocks> * Discussed with rsalvetti on the kernel fixes that will be needed for Touch to ensure we won't be blocked on this
[15:37] <didrocks> Mic:
[15:37] <didrocks> * Voted on FOSDEM desktop room talk.
[15:37] <didrocks> * Archive admin and some MIR duties.
[15:37] <didrocks> EOF
[15:37] <mlankhorst> cheers for the fallback-x work
[15:37] <willcooke> woot, thanks didrocks
[15:37] <didrocks> yw ;)
[15:38] <willcooke> #topic FJKong
[15:38] <FJKong> * continue pinyin research
[15:38] <FJKong> * close 2 bugs of sogou input method get ready for new version release
[15:38] <FJKong> * take one day off
[15:38] <FJKong> EOF
[15:38] <willcooke> thanks FJKong
[15:39] <FJKong> yw
[15:39] <willcooke> #topic Laney
[15:39] <Laney> • More work on gtk 3.14, merge .6, merge with Debian, test, ready to go once theme is
[15:39] <Laney> • Update evolution (+ in Debian, although not so relevant there) to not pass -Bsymbolic-functions when linking, can crash otherwise
[15:39] <Laney> • Also update evolution-* to 3.12.9, need to SRU this to 14.10
[15:39] <Laney> • Update vte2.91 + in Debian
[15:39] <Laney> • Update libsoup2.4 + in Debian
[15:39] <Laney> ∘ Test failure and another test hang, upstream both with fix for first, upload w/test disabled :(
[15:39] <Laney> • SRU glib-networking to 14.10
[15:39] <Laney> • Update dpkg to add some Breaks to work around dpkg trigger cycles, track CI for this due to infrastructure downtime
[15:39] <Laney> • Merge new dbus upstream from Debian, thanks MoM
[15:39] <Laney> • DMB: meeting, welcome teward as a new developer
[15:39] <Laney> • Install desktop-next, find out that gtk is broken in mir, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtmir/+bug/1401968
[15:39] <Laney> • Organise travel for fosdem and a sprint afterwards
[15:39] <Laney> • Fix a crash bug in gnome-terminal caused by our transparency patch
[15:39] <Laney> ❀
[15:39] <willcooke> nice
[15:39] <willcooke> thanks Laney
[15:39] <Laney> np
[15:40] <willcooke> #topic larsu
[15:40] <larsu> hey. My cold came back again last week, so I don't have a whole lot to report
[15:40] <larsu> still working on the gtk update and related things (like the theme :( )
[15:41] <willcooke> ack, thx larsu
[15:41] <larsu> sorry for the short one this time :/
[15:41] <Laney> what do you think is left before we can upload?
[15:41] <willcooke> hope the cold goes away, I feel your pain :)
[15:42] <larsu> thanks, it's better this week
[15:42] <larsu> Laney: I have a hang of getting caught up in too many fixes in the theme at once. I'll try to separate the most important bits right after the meeting
[15:43] <Laney> maybe we can just take the branch as-is
[15:43] <Laney> you can keep working on it after that of course
[15:43] <larsu> sure, that works as well
[15:44] <willcooke> cool
[15:44] <willcooke> #topic desrt
[15:44] <willcooke> back to desrt
[15:44] <desrt> was another big week of kdbus hacking
[15:44]  * Laney sees steam rising in front of the window and knows that the heating is now on :D
[15:45] <mlankhorst> and there's a leak?
[15:45] <desrt> i did some substantial reengineering of how that's structured internally, getting rid of quite some hackery that's in there... and kdbus is now working single threaded, and it's able to send and receive messages exactly as you expect for async apps (services and clients)
[15:45] <Laney> why would there be a leak?
[15:45] <mlankhorst> steam!
[15:45] <desrt> unfortunately due to not running the mainloop it deadlocks during sync calls -- but that's totally fine because i wanted to change how that works anyway (to make it much more efficient) so i'm going to do that over the next while
[15:46] <desrt> i also played with schroot and did some work on the sysdeps feature of jhbuild over the weekend -- this will help with jhbuilding inside of buildds, which could be interesting for a lot of reasons
[15:46] <desrt> schroot is cool.  if you are an ubuntu developer who hasn't fully learned about how to use this tool, take some time to learn it.
[15:46] <desrt> it's really really great
[15:46] <desrt> eof
[15:47] <willcooke> thanks desrt
[15:47] <willcooke> I think I will check out schroot too
[15:48] <desrt> if you need some help poke me (or Laney may even be better)
[15:48] <willcooke> could be useful for when I try and build things from source and end up smashing new libs all over the place because I'm too lazy to work out how to do it properly
[15:48] <Laney> ubuntu-dev-tools has a mk-sbuild script to make the chroots
[15:48] <willcooke> niiiiice!
[15:48] <desrt> willcooke: ya... it's awesome for spinning up a system that you can feel free to absolutely destroy
[15:48] <desrt> and then wipe it all away again a few seconds later
[15:48] <desrt> Laney: it's also super-easy to just debootstrap them
[15:48] <willcooke> sounds like I need that in my life
[15:49] <desrt> although i guess you have to do some manual work of building a .tar or whatever
[15:49] <willcooke> better than reinstalling because I'm stupid
[15:49] <willcooke> :)
[15:49] <willcooke> #topic mlankhorst
[15:49] <mlankhorst> - Found a regression in the mesa-lts-utopic backport to trusty, uploaded a fix.
[15:49] <mlankhorst> - Uploaded a new xorg-server to vivid with the security fixes.
[15:49] <mlankhorst> - Prepared xorg-server 1.17 in ppa:canonical-x/x-staging.
[15:50] <mlankhorst> - Rebased standalone Xmir on top of 1.17 and made it work on GLES platforms.
[15:50] <mlankhorst> - Fixed mesa acceleration in Xmir 1.17 just now.
[15:50] <mlankhorst> - Fixed a regression in nouveau.
[15:50] <mlankhorst> ^D
[15:50] <willcooke> mlankhorst, was getting 200+ fps in gears today :)
[15:50] <willcooke> I know it's not a real test :)
[15:50] <willcooke> but I like it
[15:50] <mlankhorst> with -egl? that means that vblank was not working and it was using -sw mode :P
[15:50] <willcooke> yeah, it did look like vblank wasnt working
[15:50] <willcooke> but SPEED :)
[15:51] <mlankhorst> oh try with hw, really..
[15:51] <willcooke> switch ?
[15:51] <willcooke> -hw?
[15:51] <mlankhorst> no just wait a bit
[15:51] <willcooke> always with the waiting :)
[15:51] <qengho> Is that "no hardware"?
[15:51] <mlankhorst> sa19 has fixed the black screen when using mesa
[15:51] <mlankhorst> resizing seems to work correctly too
[15:53] <willcooke> #topic qengho
[15:53] <qengho> * Nursing. Entrire family has the flu.
[15:53] <qengho> * More work on Mir/Wayland/Ozone/Chromium.
[15:53] <qengho> Installed Desktop Next. Cried a lot. Switched back for now.
[15:53] <willcooke> lol
[15:54] <willcooke> hope everyone is on feeling better soon qengho - sounds like a lot of us are suffering this week
[15:54] <willcooke> #topic Sweet5hark
[15:54] <qengho> *I* got a wonderful vaccine, I guess.
[15:54] <mlankhorst> willcooke: if you want a better test for acceleration, try https://mblankhorst.nl/etc/glxspheres
[15:54] <qengho> Thanks.
[15:55] <Sweet5hark> * 4.3.5~rc2 created tarballs, will build for PPA and later SRU later todayish
[15:55] <Sweet5hark> * some grinding trough launchpad bugs
[15:55] <Sweet5hark> * I caused a regression upstream, is fixed now, but misses a test: writing that right now
[15:55] <Sweet5hark> * prepare 4.4.0~beta2 prerelease for ppa (twice. some hassle with the tarballs being actually beta1 tarballs, so needed extra tweakage)
[15:55] <Sweet5hark> * some code review,
[15:55] <Sweet5hark> org and the usual syncing upstream (e.g. among other stuff, helped collecting some datapoints on TDFs 2014 annual report at http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/annualreport)
[15:55] <Sweet5hark> * havent looked at schroot yet, wonder I should still do, now that I have my own lo-pbuilder wrapper running in a jenkins doing most of the chrooting/setuiding
[15:55] <Sweet5hark> EOF
[15:55] <willcooke> thx Sweet5hark
[15:56] <willcooke> #topic tkamppeter
[15:58] <willcooke> guess tkamppeter isnt around atm
[15:58] <willcooke> #topic robert_ancell
[15:58] <willcooke> Worked on:
[15:58] <willcooke> - Finished gnome-bluetooth patch (awaiting review)
[15:58] <willcooke> - Started on gnome-control-center bluetooth patch
[15:58] <willcooke> - Fixed simple-scan bugs
[15:58] <willcooke> - Released simple-scan 3.15.3
[15:58] <willcooke> - TPM support
[15:58] <willcooke> - Reviewed merge proposals
[15:58] <willcooke> oops
[15:58] <willcooke> Should say:
[15:58] <willcooke> - Started on unity-control-center bluetooth patch
[15:58] <willcooke> #topic any other business
[15:58] <Laney> when's next meeting?
[15:58] <willcooke> For those of you who are going to the Mir sprint please get your travel auth done asap
[15:59] <willcooke> Next meeting will be 6 Jan
[15:59] <willcooke> Oh, and FOSDEM people, travel auth as well please
[15:59] <willcooke> Have an excellent and restful holiday
[15:59] <willcooke> HO HO HO - HAPPY PRIMARY GIFTING PERIOD
[16:00] <willcooke> #endmeeting
[16:00] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Dec 16 16:00:02 2014 UTC.
[16:00] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2014/ubuntu-desktop.2014-12-16-15.30.moin.txt
[16:00] <didrocks> thanks, you too! :)
[16:01] <tkamppeter> - system-config-printer: Completed first Utopic SRU verification, withdrawn Trusty SRU as IPP-over-USB is not yet working correctly, posted Utopic and Trusty SRUs for fixing automatic driver download.
[16:01] <tkamppeter> - Bugs.
[16:02] <willcooke> thx tkamppeter sorry I was too hasty with ending the meetin
[16:03] <willcooke> g
[16:07] <willcooke> mlankhorst, for spheres, do I use -egl ?
[16:07] <mlankhorst> no :P
[16:08] <mlankhorst> -egl was a hack because I was still working on fixing xmir, those fixes are in sa19
[16:08] <willcooke> mlankhorst, just getting the blackness without
[16:08] <willcooke> so I should wait, right?
[16:08] <mlankhorst> update xmir
[16:09] <mlankhorst> sec
[16:10]  * willcooke is scared 
[16:10] <willcooke> it wants to upgrade u8 too
[16:10] <willcooke> and it'll break again :)
[16:13] <mlankhorst> install xserver-xorg-xmir=2:1.17.0~rc1-0ubuntu1+sa19
[16:16] <Laney> anyone know where to find fedora build logs offhand?
[16:18] <Laney> found it koji.fedoraproject.org
[16:22] <willcooke> mlankhorst, installed, thx
[16:22] <willcooke> mlankhorst, so now I drop the -egl ?
[16:23] <willcooke> mlankhorst, Xmir wont connect to Mir at all now
[16:23] <willcooke> mlankhorst, ignore, works now
[16:23] <willcooke> ??
[16:25] <mlankhorst> ok
[16:25] <mlankhorst> drop the -egl
[16:25] <willcooke> nice and smooth :)
[16:25] <willcooke> and synced
[18:03]  * Laney waves