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ScottKxnox: Everything relevant has moved to Debian.04:17
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pittiGood morning05:52
pittiwow, it's quiet here -- must be christmas soon :)05:53
dholbachgood morning06:55
Laneybah humbug!09:04
tkamppeterpitti, hi09:20
pittihey tkamppeter, wie gehts?09:28
xnoxScottK: right, i guess Debian LTS helped with such a move (even if not used)09:33
pittiLaney: in case you track the test overrides, the udisks2 regression is bug 1398859; it's still rather ominous, but I'll keep looking at it09:38
ubottubug 1398859 in systemd (Ubuntu) "[udev regression] unmounting NTFS causes mount.ntfs process to get stuck in eternal kernel deep sleep" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139885909:38
Laneyah yes, I remembered about that the other day, thanks for the heads up09:40
pittiLaney: same udev works on Debian and Fedora, so it's not that after all09:40
Mirva core dev would be needed to ack the multi-arch related packaging changes in Compiz https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-012-2-publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/packaging_changes_compiz_1%3A0.9.12.0+15.04.20141210.2-0ubuntu1.diff09:47
TheNumbpatch tuesday ;-)09:50
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Riddell"Discuss with Desktop team and MartinPitt whether or not to re-enable apport by default for A1 "10:45
Riddellpitti: what do you think?10:45
tkamppeterpitti, seems that AppArmor rules of CUPS need an extension, see bug 1402350.10:47
ubottubug 1402350 in cups (Ubuntu) "Powering on the printer does not activate the related usb port" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/140235010:47
tkamppeterpitti, seems that a filter is accessing systemd stuff. I do not really know for what of systemd CUPS needs access permission.10:48
Riddell"Notify Michael Vogt to perform a GnomeAppInstallDesktopDatabaseUpdate" ← mvo10:50
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ScottKxnox: It wasn't really a factor.  Personally, I think it's still an experiment.11:02
pittiRiddell: hm, I don't have a strong opinion; at some point we want to move to errors.u.c., but I suppose we aren't there yet11:09
pittiRiddell: my gut feeling is that we should enable it after the christmas holidays, though11:10
pittiRiddell: enabling it now with very few people actually looking at incoming bugs might just be a waste?11:10
Riddellpitti: okay dokay11:10
Riddellpitti: doesn't errors.u.c needs apport to report to it?11:11
pittiRiddell: yes, but apport itself is running; we only disable crash submission to Launchpad11:11
pittitkamppeter: ah, that's the journal (i. e. log messages); apparently that driver supports it11:11
Riddellpitti: so how does apport report to errors.u.c ?11:11
pittitkamppeter: I think you should reassign this to apparmor -- IMHO writing the journal socket should be allowed in teh same place that allows writing to /dev/log, i. e. in /etc/apparmor.d/abstractions/base11:12
pittiRiddell: it's "whoopsie" which does that -- it looks for new /var/crash/*.crash, and uploads them11:13
pittitkamppeter: I'll update the bug11:13
Riddellpitti: sneaky, it doesn't tell the user?11:15
pittitkamppeter: but updated11:16
pittitkamppeter: "bug"11:16
pittiRiddell: it does the normal way -- it's just that clicking "send" won't invoke a browser, it just creates a /var/crash/foo.upload stamp which then triggers whoopsie to upload it to errors.u.c.11:16
Riddellpitti: so is there any reason for apport to report to launchpad?11:22
pittiRiddell: some, yes; on LP you have a channel to the reporter, thus you can ask to try some extra things, attach program output, try a fix, etc.11:23
Riddellpitti: ah yes.  thanks for explaining11:23
pittiRiddell: there's some plan to allow a subset of those on errors.u.c. as well, but it never got implemented11:24
pittiRiddell: so my personal gut feeling is to enable LP bugs for alpha-2, at least after the EOY holidays11:24
tkamppeterpitti, jjohansen, thank you very much.11:27
Riddellpitti: sounds like a plan11:29
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Riddellalpha 1 freeze in place for kubuntu, ubuntu gnome, ubuntu kylin11:36
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LaneyRiddell: You need to put it in 'freeze', not 'block'12:55
RiddellLaney: in hints-ubuntu? why?12:57
Odd_BlokeI've been looking at building cloud images using Launchpad buildds, and think I'm going to have a small patch to live-build; how are changes to live-build managed?12:58
LaneyRiddell: because there's a list of allowed files and block is not one of them12:59
RiddellLaney: ok, fixed12:59
RiddellOdd_Bloke: probably cjwatson is your man there12:59
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cjwatsonOdd_Bloke: nothing fancy, just bugs.  I'm not your man for this any more though, get slangasek to find another victim or ask on #ubuntu-release14:33
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Odd_Blokecjwatson: Understood, will do.14:49
Odd_BlokeIt isn't urgent, as we're building from our own PPA for livecd-rootfs anyway.14:50
caribouis there specific packages from which we get the binary that we put in our initramfs ?14:52
caribouI'm looking for the sources for ipconfig14:52
caribouinitramfs-tools ?14:53
cjwatsoncaribou: ipconfig comes from klibc-utils15:46
cjwatsoncaribou: dpkg -S bin/ipconfig15:47
cariboucjwatson: thanks; for some reason I couldn't find it with -S15:47
mgedmincjwatson, I'm assuming you're no longer taking care of gfxboot-theme-ubuntu?  can you suggest a successor?16:03
mgedminhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gfxboot-theme-ubuntu/+bug/1384188 is something trivial I'd like to see fixed in vivid16:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1384188 in gfxboot-theme-ubuntu (Ubuntu) "Missing translations for 'Install Ubuntu GNOME' and 'Try Ubuntu GNOME without installing'" [Undecided,New]16:04
cjwatsonmgedmin: I've passed you on to cyphermox, at least in this instance16:44
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cyphermoxmgedmin: it's pretty much the same result but there is po/bin/add_text that can be used to add translatable strings; it also updates the po files at the same time. I'll be done shortly, just finishing with a translation update while we're at it17:42
mgedminwelp, there was a README in po/ and I didn't notice!17:46
mgedminI assume the translations will be done through launchpad as usual?17:47
cyphermoxmgedmin: yes, I did an export to update the package, that's all17:57
cyphermoxmgedmin: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gfxboot-theme-ubuntu/0.18.018:15
hallynFeh - when did this start up again?  this is like maverick era bug:21:14
hallynWARNING: gnome-keyring:: couldn't connect to: /run/user/1000/keyring-0JIGtA/pkcs11: Connection refused21:14
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