[01:00] <rsalveti> tedg: iirc I decided to not track that use case specifically, because you can list every sink-input you get, but then to know what is the active one is actually harder
[01:00] <rsalveti> that's why it tracks when sink-inputs are created/removed
[02:26] <Abhi_> Hello
[02:27] <Abhi_> I have tried installing Ubuntu Touch on my Samsung Galaxy S2 Gt-i9100
[02:28] <Abhi_> I have installed through clockwork mod
[02:28] <Abhi_> After reboot my phone does not boot into ubuntu
[02:28] <Abhi_> it's stuck on the Samsung logo
[02:29] <Abhi_> I have followed instructions from here
[02:29] <Abhi_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/i9100
[02:32] <Abhi_> anybody?
[02:42] <cyphermox> kenvandine: sorry, I am unable to confirm that it works with my keyboard
[02:42] <kenvandine> ugh... ok
[02:42] <kenvandine> cyphermox, thanks
[02:42] <cyphermox> mzanetti: did you test it on your end?
[02:42] <cyphermox> kenvandine: my bt keyboard is kind of a very old and weird device though, it might not be indicative of anything
[02:50] <cyphermox> kenvandine: ... and if my logitech ultrathin touch mouse wasn't trying to be so clever it would probably work, but right now it doesn't.. but as I said it's because it's trying to do some clever things with SSP
[02:53] <cyphermox> I'll try to go buy proper bluetooth hardware tomorrow
[02:54] <cyphermox> what I can confirm though is that the code looked like it would do the right thing, provided everything else is fine -- ie. that the device you're trying to pair supports the one authentication method we have
[02:55] <cyphermox> once my wife finishes her work on her computer, I'll steal that bluetooth mouse and try with it, it should behave a bit better
[04:43] <bzoltan_> quatrox: yes, that is how you should do.
[07:21] <asad2005> Can some please tell me how to install touch 14.10 on my nexus 7 wifi
[07:24] <nhaines> If it the 2013 model, instructions are here: http://developer.ubuntu.com/start/ubuntu-for-devices/installing-ubuntu-for-devices/
[07:24] <nhaines> If it's the 2012 model, then it is not possible.
[07:27] <asad2005> thanks its 2013, i will see the link
[08:34] <dholbach> good morning
[08:45] <nhaines> dholbach: good morning!
[08:45] <dholbach> hi nhaines
[08:46] <nhaines> I have no idea how it'd work, but if we can get KSP running Ubuntu phones we'd sell a billion of them on launch day.
[08:46] <dholbach> KSP?
[08:46] <nhaines> Kerbal Space Program.
[09:01] <rpadovani> oSoMoN, o/ when you have some time, could you please take a look to bug 1402975? I don't want to use Android to read updates about my favourite game :D
[09:02] <oSoMoN> rpadovani, I’m looking at it already :)
[09:02] <rpadovani> \o/
[09:08] <oSoMoN> rpadovani, I need to look a bit more in details, but it looks to me like those pages are badly designed, as they assume a minimum viewport width, and they won’t render properly if the viewport is narrower
[09:09] <rpadovani> oSoMoN, I understand that, but on Android they are rendered well, so I know is a pain, but I (as user) expect that website I'm able to view on Android are visitable also on Ubuntu
[09:10] <oSoMoN> rpadovani, is that on chrome on android, or with the stock android browser?
[09:10] <rpadovani> oSoMoN, stock browser,
[09:10] <rpadovani> do you want I try with Chrome?
[09:11] <oSoMoN> rpadovani, yes please, if it’s not too much hassle
[09:11] <rpadovani> np, time to download it
[09:20] <rpadovani> oSoMoN, it is rendered well on Chrome Stable - tried on Galaxy S4, MotoG and Galaxy S2
[09:20] <rpadovani> oSoMoN, I'm not able to provide you screenshot right now, but I can do them tonight if you need them
[09:21] <rpadovani> *screenshots
[09:25] <oSoMoN> rpadovani, that would be useful, if you can attach them to the bug report, thanks!
[09:26] <rpadovani> oSoMoN, I'll do. I'm at uni atm and I don't have an usb cable, so I'll do tonight. Thanks for the check!
[09:26] <oSoMoN> cheers,
[09:32] <mzanetti> cyphermox: well, it crashes bluez when you pair a keyboard
[09:45] <cheche> hi folks, just wondered if there's a rtm build for the nexus5 (hammerhead) avaible. Regards from AT
[09:45] <nhaines> Yes, there is.  Use MultiROM Manager.
[09:45] <cheche> power issue still existing?
[09:45] <nhaines> Since the upower transition it's been reasonable.
[09:47] <cheche> Thanks. for the info.
[09:48] <cheche> do you have a reference time how long the power will last? Productive use possible?
[09:48] <nhaines> No.  Based on my test last night at 40% battery power, it looked like the standby time with no use was about 23 hours.  But I didn't test at 100% charge either.
[09:49] <nhaines> You ought to be able to last a day with minimal use, I suspect.  Not the 5 hours like in r10.
[09:49] <cheche> sounds accaptable to me
[09:50] <nhaines> at least with MultiROM Manager you can always boot back into Android 5.0 and turn on battery saving mode.  :)
[09:50] <cheche> Thanks alout
[09:50] <cheche> *alot
[09:50] <nhaines> You're welcome.  Good luck.
[10:09] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Chocolate Covered Anything Day! :-D
[10:11] <iamnoob> hi any one ever tried ubuntu touch on a samsung galaxy s duos 2 device?
[10:11] <lotuspsychje> !devices
[11:47] <mandel> kenvandine, for whenever you are up => https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntu-system-settings/fix-network/+merge/244845
[11:47] <mandel> kenvandine, I do know it is a large change but it also increases the code coverage
[12:00] <mandel> kenvandine, one more => https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntu-system-settings/fix-pause/+merge/244847
[14:08] <kenvandine> mandel, thanks!  the fix-network branch is huge... first skim looks great, i'll give it a good review in a bit
[14:22] <nerochiaro> artmello: had any chance to look at the gallery+editor MR yet ?
[14:25] <artmello> nerochiaro: sorry, not yet. But i intend to do it today
[14:25] <nerochiaro> artmello: ok, thank you
[14:35] <mardy> renatu: hi!
[14:35] <renatu> mardy, hi
[14:47] <mardy> renatu: I wanted to show you a bug, which I cannot find anymore... :-)
[14:47] <renatu> :D
[14:48] <mardy> renatu: ah, it's https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1401859
[14:50] <mardy> renatu: the question is: when sync-monitor executes the sync, can it get an error code from syncevolution, if the authentication fails?
[14:51] <renatu> mardy, I believe so
[15:00] <kenvandine> mzanetti, did you see my request to test silo 7?
[15:01] <mzanetti> kenvandine: no
[15:01] <kenvandine> mzanetti, the bt-input branch is there, and i don't have devices to test with
[15:01] <kenvandine> cyphermox tried, but had trouble with his device too
[15:02] <mzanetti> kenvandine: I've tested it with a mouse and keyboard. mouse works, keyboard crashes bluez (as I noted in the MP description)
[15:02] <mzanetti> kenvandine: however, I can test again using the silo
[15:02] <mzanetti> just to make sure
[15:03] <kenvandine> mzanetti, i'd appreciate it
[15:03] <kenvandine> thanks
[15:03] <mzanetti> ack
[15:03] <chrisccoulson> anyone with a mako device that's powered on right now - could you tell me what we set the pixel ratio to?
[15:17] <nuclearbob> I used to get an "emergency shutdown" message in syslog when my device battery ran out, but I'm not seeing that on 179
[15:26] <mandel> kenvandine, ack, the merge is a little big, but I wanted to clean that as much as possible
[15:27] <mandel> kenvandine, yet another improvement => https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntu-system-settings/fix-network-errors/+merge/244868
[15:27] <kenvandine> mandel, understand, it needed it :)
[15:27] <mandel> kenvandine, that second MR removes that CRAZY if nested inferno ;)
[15:31] <kenvandine> cyphermox, thx for the review, can you look at it again?
[15:31] <cyphermox> sure, give me a bit
[15:31] <kenvandine> thx
[15:33] <mandel> kenvandine, I really dislike that #if TEST usage in the plugin, do you hae the same opinion?
[15:33] <kenvandine> mandel, i hate it!
[15:33] <mandel> kenvandine, is very error prone and you are not testing the "real" code
[15:33] <mandel> kenvandine, hahaha
[15:33] <mandel> kenvandine, ok, getting that out too :)
[15:33] <kenvandine> great
[15:34] <oSoMoN> elopio, have you seen my last comment on https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-platform-qa/webbrowser-app/autopilot-webbrowser_cpo/+merge/244659 ?
[15:37] <elopio> oSoMoN: that test passes for me. I will check what's going on
[15:38] <oSoMoN> elopio, does it pass on a device too? or did you test on desktop only?
[16:04] <elopio> oSoMoN: I see now that it fails in both. I just missunderstood the problem.
[16:04] <elopio> sorry about that and thanks for checking.
[16:04] <elopio> I've pushed the fix.
[16:10] <tedg> rsalveti, So I'm thinking we might need to track the focused app to know what role to be using.
[16:11] <tedg> rsalveti, As I play with this, I'm realizing that if someone connects, then you open a new app we're not going to get a new connection for the original app.
[16:11] <tedg> rsalveti, I'm not sure stacking really works here.
[16:11] <rsalveti> not sure why you want to track the focused app
[16:11] <rsalveti> you can still have sound coming somewhere else
[16:11] <rsalveti> like alarms, ringtone and so on
[16:14] <rpadovani> chrisccoulson, o/ could you please take a look to my new comment in bug 1402975?
[16:26] <oSoMoN> elopio, thanks
[16:26] <kenvandine> mandel, did you see the failure in your fix-network MP?
[16:27] <mandel> kenvandine, nope, let me check
[16:27] <kenvandine> mandel, looks like a file is missing, tst_network.cpp
[16:27] <mandel> kenvandine, wow.. what an amateur mistake! I must have forgotten to add it in the commit, give me a sec
[16:27] <kenvandine> :)
[16:27] <kenvandine> mandel, thx
[16:29] <mandel> kenvandine, that is annoying because it is the best file, a number of tests for the json parsing :)
[16:29] <kenvandine> :)
[16:29] <mandel> kenvandine, done, you might want to take a look
[16:34] <mandel> kenvandine, I have another branch that allows to write tests for each possible network reply so that we are sure that we are dealing with the network issues correctly
[16:34] <mandel> will push asap
[16:44] <kenvandine> mandel, can you drop the debian/changelog entries?  citrain will create them automatically
[16:45] <kenvandine> mandel, also... do you think your other branches will merge cleanly with your just-notify-on-change branch?
[16:46] <nerochiaro> ondra: hi, i am trying to figure out how to build libhybbris, but i can not find any docs. is is something you can help with ?
[16:59] <ondra> nerochiaro which part, android or ubuntu one?
[16:59] <nerochiaro> ondra: what i want to do is to allow querying the supported flash modes for the camera. what part do i need for that ?
[17:04] <ondra> nerochiaro right, let me share with you my notes
[17:47] <mandel> kenvandine, sure, I'll drop the debian changelog, I'll make sure the just-notify-on-change can be merged..
[17:47] <mandel> kenvandine, the notify branch is less "important" so it can be landed later
[18:04] <kenvandine> mandel, your fix-network branch just had autopilot failures, 2 of which maybe be transient... but one of them is from system-updates
[18:04] <kenvandine> mandel, take a look to see if that's a real failure from your change
[18:04] <mandel> kenvandine, hm.. weird, looking
[18:04] <mandel> gosh that code sucks
[18:05] <kenvandine> well right now we seem to be having lots of random autopilot failures
[18:05] <kenvandine> each run has different ones
[18:24] <kenvandine> mandel, hey... fix-pause isn't actually fixed
[18:24] <kenvandine> the button changes properly and the state seems to change
[18:24] <kenvandine> but the download continues
[18:24] <mandel> kenvandine, I've tested it and it works, several times
[18:24] <mandel> kenvandine, are you sure?
[18:24] <kenvandine> i recall testing this after you said it was fixed with that mem-leak branch
[18:24] <kenvandine> and thought it did work
[18:25] <kenvandine> but in testing silo 2 for rtm
[18:25] <kenvandine> it didn't stop the download
[18:25] <kenvandine> so i tried on vivid again, and it also didn't stop the download
[18:25] <mandel> kenvandine, when you say it did not stop the download what do you mean? cause I see it stoping and the progress bar does not increase
[18:25] <kenvandine> i was surprised when you said it was fixed, and could have sworn i saw it work after that
[18:26] <kenvandine> it still increases for me
[18:26] <kenvandine> image 56
[18:26] <kenvandine> and when it hits 100%, it installs the update
[18:26] <kenvandine> pausing it does change the button text and the message though
[18:26] <kenvandine> but it never seems to pause the download
[18:27] <kenvandine> mandel, i know for sure i saw this work...
[18:27] <mandel> kenvandine, well, I have seen it working, let me test in img 56 'cause I did see it working too :-/
[18:28] <kenvandine> mandel, and if you have an rtm device, please test silo 2
[18:28] <kenvandine> it's in the silo
[18:28] <mandel> kenvandine, I have one, will falsh, please wait for my feedback
[18:28] <kenvandine> mandel, but today is the deadline for ww51... gotta get it working in that silo :)
[18:29] <mandel> kenvandine, ack, will do it right now
[18:29] <kenvandine> thx
[18:30] <kenvandine> mandel, if you figure it out, add the fix to your rtm branch for it
[18:30] <kenvandine> we'll land it there first
[18:30] <mandel> kenvandine, ack
[18:36] <kenvandine> mandel, you can see the steps i'm using to test it at http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/9542842/
[18:36] <kenvandine> that's what i put in for verification of the silo for qa
[19:01] <kenvandine> dpm, i have a translation question
[19:01] <kenvandine> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/vivid/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+pots/ubuntu-system-settings/es/+translate?batch=10&show=all&search=rotation
[19:01] <kenvandine> dpm, there is no current spanish translation, but there is a suggested one from rvr
[19:01] <kenvandine> dpm, does that mean it just needs someone to ack it?
[19:02] <dpm> hi kenvandine, correct
[19:02] <dpm> generally the Spanish translators are quite quick in approving them
[19:02] <kenvandine> can you do that?
[19:02] <kenvandine> we want to land this string change in rtm
[19:02] <kenvandine> but been waiting to make sure the string is translated
[19:03] <dpm> kenvandine, done
[19:03] <kenvandine> thx
[19:03] <kenvandine> dpm, and if i land this in rtm, it'll get this translation with the lang pack refresh?
[19:06] <dpm> kenvandine, yeah. The translation was ack'ed in vivid, but they are shared with rtm, so after the rtm package is uploaded to LP, the translation will be exported and shipped in the next language pack
[19:06] <kenvandine> great
[19:06] <kenvandine> dpm, thx
[19:41] <kenvandine> mandel, any ideas yet?
[19:46] <mandel> kenvandine, I've noticed the following, If the download starts and I inmediatly try to pause it, it does not work, if I let it download a little and pause, it works as expected
[19:46] <kenvandine> not for me, i tested with gallery which is kind of big
[19:46] <kenvandine> and let it hit about 30%
[19:46] <mandel> kenvandine, so, not only the mem management is wrong, but there is a race condition between the ui
[19:46] <mandel> kenvandine, weird, I've got it working..
[19:47]  * mandel scracthes head
[19:51] <kenvandine> i just waited for it to download 3M, still didn't stop downloading
[19:51] <kenvandine> mandel, ^^
[19:51] <kenvandine> mandel, also, the first tap of the pause button doesn't change it to resume
[19:51] <mandel> kenvandine, adding logs to check better
[19:52] <kenvandine> the second does
[20:07] <mandel> kenvandine, that is the ui.. is amazing how bad it is done.. cause the pause works in system updates and udm is the same
[20:07] <mandel> I need to get dinner and I'll get back to it
[20:18] <shalker> hey guys
[20:35] <shalker> i wanna know how to join the ubuntu team
[20:36] <lotuspsychje> shalker: you wanna develope for ubuntu touch?
[20:36] <shalker> not much of a developer but i have ideas
[20:36] <shalker> for features
[20:37] <shalker> and design
[20:37] <lotuspsychje> you have come to the right channel then
[20:37] <shalker> which is that??
[20:37] <lotuspsychje> im just a happy user here, so ask the more experienced devs in this channel
[20:38] <shalker> oh
[20:38] <shalker> its my first time using this
[20:39] <shalker> preddii dope tho
[20:39] <shalker> #ubuntu
[20:42] <pmcgowan> hey shalker did you join the email list?
[20:54] <shalker> what channel ??
[20:58] <pmcgowan> shalker, if you have a launchpad account, go here and subscribe to the mailing list https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
[20:58] <pmcgowan> thats the best vehicle for feature and design ideas
[20:58] <shalker> ok thank you
[20:58] <shalker> i just joined about four of them
[21:11] <kenvandine> mandel, i had to drop that branch from the silo for now, couldn't risk not getting the other fixes in
[22:08] <isantop> If I load the Unity Next Vivid Daily image on an x86 tablet, is there any way to disable the new Window Manager or enable a built-in keyboard?