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Kilosmorning all and sundry05:56
not_found0/06:12
Kiloshi there not_found 06:16
Kilosfix something06:16
Kilosinetpro: cremora06:17
not_foundif something isn't broken no need to fix06:26
Kiloshi magespawn 06:28
magespawngood morning06:29
Kiloslol not_found win always needs fixing06:29
magespawnhow are things Kilos?06:30
Kilosgood ty magespawn and you?06:30
magespawnvery good thank you06:32
magespawni am busy learning how to use irssi06:32
Kiloshaha i looked long ago but was too much for me06:33
magespawnthat is what i am connected through now06:34
Kilosiirc it didnt make bloeps and was ugly06:34
magespawnyes but you can do lots of other things all the same time06:35
Kilosi get lost when i try do lots of things but just installed it and will look again06:37
magespawni would imagine that it is very system light06:38
Kiloshi ThatGraemeGuy 06:40
Kilosi got it running but it didnt even ask what server or anything06:40
Kilosi need a spoon feeding client06:41
Kilosyou on win though hey magespawn ?06:41
magespawnpersistance06:41
Kiloslol06:42
magespawni just ran /connect irc.freenode.com06:43
magespawnand then /join #ubuntu-za06:43
Kilosoh not chat.freenode.net06:43
Kilosoh my there it goes. and it bloeps all the time06:44
Kilossjoe06:45
miles_it works06:45
not_foundwell, I have had much less to do now on Windows then when I was on Linux to be honest.  I am really taxing this box too with all the crap I am running (not to mention games etc).06:46
Kiloslol as long as you enjoy yourself thats fine not_found 06:46
Kilosi go take sheep out06:48
Kilosoh my. it bloeps every 15 secs even without peeps saying anything06:54
magespawnthere must be a setting for that06:56
Kilosya found it06:56
Kiloskilled it but now i get activity in session shell popups06:57
Kilossjoe06:57
magespawni am not getting any of that yet06:58
Kilosi killed it06:59
Kilosso far konversation is the best06:59
Kilosonly it loses highlighted messages on restart so hard to scroll back07:00
Kilosweechat was better than irssi methinks07:01
Kiloseasier07:01
Kilosmagespawn: go see my pretty http://picpaste.com/pretty-qjF9fd4r.png07:03
Kilosstole that from elementaryos07:04
magespawnthat looks very cool Kilos07:05
Kilosi love it07:06
magespawncool setup07:08
Kilos14.04 kde is unbreakable07:13
Kiloshows work magespawn ?07:14
Kiloshard away from family all the time hey07:14
magespawnnot at work today07:15
magespawnso i am enjoying the time off07:16
Kilosnice07:17
Kilosdont enjoy yourself so much that you are too tired for tonights meeting07:17
Kilosyou as well not_found 07:18
Kilosits gonna be late for you07:18
not_foundvery late >.<07:18
Kilosya try get some early shuteye07:18
magespawnahh yes, thanks Kilos, i had forgotten about that07:19
not_foundeek07:19
Kilosjoin us at our 21.40 about07:19
not_founddon't forget pls07:19
magespawnwon't now07:19
Kilosi have no idea where the pro is07:19
Kilosinetpro: ping07:20
KilosMaaz: seen inetpro 07:20
MaazKilos: inetpro was last seen 4 days, 12 hours, 47 minutes and 34 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2014-12-11 10:32:45 PST], and has been online on freenode since 2014-12-10 11:11:30 PST07:20
Kilosshoulda said ping dammit07:20
magespawni thought you did08:14
Kiloshaha08:15
Kilosi think he has gone on leave to natal after not even telling anyone08:16
Kilosagain08:16
Kiloswell i hope so08:16
Kilosthen he is ok and i can rev him when he comes back08:17
magespawnmaybe we can find him here lol08:17
magespawnput the word out 08:17
Kiloshe goes to northern natal08:18
Kilospiet retief or paul piet or near one of them08:18
magespawnjust up the road from me then08:20
magespawni'll just pop in irritate him a bit then leave08:22
Kiloshahaha08:23
Kiloshje does this every year then comes back and says sorry08:24
Kilosthe twit08:24
magespawnmaybe send a message on g+08:30
magespawnhe should still get those08:30
Kiloshe can do irc on his cell08:38
Kilosi sukkel with g+08:38
Kilosand it eats data with all the stuff peeps put on there08:40
magespawnemail?08:43
Kiloshe doesnt even read important mails08:46
Kiloshaha08:46
Kilosif you send him a mail he needs to read you first have to tell him here08:47
Kiloshe installed ubuntu on a family pc there last year, and came here for help with unity08:54
magespawnlol08:54
Kiloswho knows, maybe an upgrade will get him here again08:55
Kiloshehe08:55
Kilosmaybe we chose a bad time to do the re-verification thing09:01
inetprogood mornings09:05
inetproKilos: wta is fout?09:06
inetprowat*09:06
Kilosinetpro: wb09:06
Kiloswhere are you hiding09:06
* inetpro was gone?09:06
Kilosyip09:06
inetprogive him a break man09:07
inetprowas just taking some fresh air outside 09:07
Kilos inetpro was last seen 4 days, 12 hours, 47 minutes and 34 seconds ago09:07
Kiloswhere are you?09:07
inetprodoes it matter09:07
Kilosyes09:07
* inetpro can't tell you all his secrets09:07
Kilosrofl09:08
Kilosnot all man just this one09:08
inetprohaha09:08
not_foundwho has posting access on G+ cause I don't :p09:08
Kilosinetpro: 09:08
Kilosinetpro: please do the g+ thing for tonights meet09:09
Kilosand will you be here09:09
inetprohmm... hope to be here yes09:09
Kilosactually here not just your quassel thing09:09
Kilosand we await your testimonial09:09
inetprowhat time did you guys say?09:09
Kiloswe didnt decide. you got the tweet didnt you09:10
inetprouh?09:10
Kilosi think i said anytime after 9pm09:10
theblazehenKilos: ya you did09:10
Kilosthen just before 10 pm we go #ubuntu-meeting09:10
Kiloswhat time did i say theblazehen ?09:11
Kilosmagespawn: you see the sneak09:12
Kilosthen he sits and chuckles to himself 09:14
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Kilosdankie boetie09:15
not_found\o/09:15
inetprohoping that eskom will keep the lights for all of us during this time09:15
inetprolights on*09:16
inetprolooks like they lost 4 big generators again09:17
Kilosthey said they will09:19
inetprowho is they?09:19
Kilosthat waseskom09:19
Kiloseskom too09:19
Kiloson tv newqs09:19
Kilosai!09:19
Kilosnews09:20
inetprowhat did they say?09:20
Kilosthey said they hope to be able to keep power on till 15 jan09:20
Kiloshope is the key methinks09:20
inetpro@Eskom_MediaDesk: Eskom lost 4 power generating units this morning, increasing the risk of loadshedding. Please switch off all non-essential appliances. 9:49 AM - 16 Dec 201409:23
Kiloseish09:24
Kilossomething fishy here09:24
Kilosthose gennies only packup if not lubricated or no fuel supplied09:24
theblazehenKilos: after 9 I think09:28
Kilosah ty theblazehen 09:28
not_foundk, my last little bit of housekeeping on the verification wiki page is done...09:40
not_foundnow we wait for tonight09:40
Kilosyou forgot to tell them to meet here not_found 09:42
Kilosnp but09:42
Kilosthose that have any interest will arrive regardless09:43
Kilosty for that09:44
magespawnwow, where did they lose them this time inetpro? or di they just not say09:46
Kiloshaha09:47
Kilosif they are lost they are lost, how can they explain where they lost them09:48
inetprogood question magespawn, let's hope they can bring them online again asap09:49
magespawni assume by 'lost' they mean broken 09:53
magespawnor otherwise non functional09:54
Kilosya stopped turning09:54
magespawnfunny how that affects a turbines/generators ability to make electricity09:56
Kiloslol09:58
Kiloshi Private_User you joining us tonight hey10:00
magespawndoes anyone know if there is some port etc of irssi for android?10:00
Kilosthats an idea10:01
Kilostheblazehen: how do you irc on the cell10:01
theblazehenKilos: I also use wuassel10:02
theblazehenQuassel*10:02
theblazehenmagespawn: Google irssi connectbot10:02
theblazehenMight do what you want10:02
Private_Userhi Kilos10:02
magespawni have connectbot10:02
Private_Usertonight?10:02
Kilosyip tonight10:02
Private_Useroh is there a meeting tonight?10:03
Private_Userok yeah I will try10:03
Kilosour most important meeting in 2 years10:03
Kiloswe gotta see if they still accept us as an official loco10:04
not_foundthey will ;)10:04
magespawnloco reverification10:04
not_foundthis is a formality only I am sure10:04
Kiloswe did very min in the last year not_found 10:04
not_foundstill all the requirements are met afaik10:05
theblazehennot_found: got a link to requirements?10:05
magespawni have a bit of a look around last time, we are about half way up the activity scale for loco's10:05
not_foundone moment theblazehen 10:06
not_foundthis should be the one - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/TeamVerificationGuidelines10:06
not_foundtheblazehen, ^^10:06
Private_Userah yes reverification, ok I will try to be there10:07
theblazehennot_found: ty10:09
magespawni have to go out for a bit, i will be back later before the meeting10:12
Kiloscool10:13
Kilosgo safe10:13
magespawnexit10:15
Kilos-ai!11:14
Kilos-hmm...13:06
Kilos-wb magespawn nlsthzn 15:32
Kilos-hiya maiatoday  hows our lady?15:32
Kilos-hi cantide15:32
maiatodayhi Kilos, fine thanks, just making sure my irc client works for tonight15:32
Kilos-yay it does15:33
Kilos-if we got power that is15:33
Cantidehi :p15:49
Cantidebut it's nearly 1 am15:49
Cantideso i gotta sleep soonish -.-15:49
magespawnhey Kilos15:51
magespawnhi Cantide15:51
magespawnhi maiatoday 15:51
Cantidehello :)15:51
magespawnthe meeting starts at 21:00 our time right?15:53
Kilos-ya magespawn kinda16:00
Kilos-then we just check everything is good for the 22.00 main meet16:00
magespawnahh right, cool beans16:02
magespawnthey all onr England summer time16:03
Kilos-?16:03
magespawntwo hours behind us, so 20:00 their time16:03
Kilos-aha16:04
magespawn22:00 is an odd time for a meeting, bit late for us16:04
Kilos-where did you see the list with activity places16:04
Kilos-and do they say why the less active16:06
magespawnyou mean our activity?16:07
Kilos-all those below us16:07
Kilos-you said we half way down the list16:08
magespawnthat was just my impression from looking through what i saw on the other teams sites16:08
Kilos-ah16:09
magespawnand from the last time we did verification16:09
Kilos-we can also tell them we have been having power probs for months too hehe16:09
magespawni don't think that will be neccessary16:09
Kilos-ya16:11
Kilos-boet gave some info on how things work there16:11
Kilos-Boiler burns stuff, makes heat, heat turns water to steam, steam turns turbines coupled so they can turn generators, generators make power, goes through HV yard to national grid, grid sells to municipalities who sell to peeps16:11
Kilos-now i understand how running out of water can be a prob16:12
Cantidegood night!16:12
magespawnthat is the general idea yup16:12
magespawnthat should not run out of water though, they should be able to recycle most of it16:13
magespawnand it should not come as a surprise16:14
Kilos-i forgot about the boilers16:14
Kilos-must have thought about kabora bassa  or whatever its called16:15
Kilos-whole dam must dry up first16:15
magespawnand i would have thought that you would have seen that coming16:18
Kilos-lol16:19
Kilos-is glug still alive?16:20
magespawni have not had a look recently16:20
Kilos-oh my they min16:20
magespawnmaybe the dlug people will know16:21
Kilos-only frostbite and mxg other than fly pro and i16:21
Kilos-and blaze and squirm16:22
Kilos- #glug.za16:22
Kilos-uh oh16:24
theblazehenKilos-: lol16:25
Kilos-whew16:25
Kilos-i hope eskom didnt kill our contact lady16:25
magespawnmmm16:26
Kilos-Maaz: mmm16:31
Maazmmm means the person is thinking how to do hmm...16:31
magespawnindeed16:31
Kilos-Maaz: hmm...16:31
Maazhmm... is often used to try make others believe one is actually thinking16:31
Kilos-hehe16:31
Kilos-sorry magespawn 16:32
magespawnno it is cool16:34
Kilos-that last testimonial explains why we have done less16:35
Kilos-ubuntu getting too good for peeps to need help16:36
magespawni am also going to go for a bit16:36
Kilos-ok16:36
Kilos-dont sleep16:36
Kilos-unless you set alarm16:36
magespawni will check back in a little while, i want to charge tha various devices, so i can stay online even if eskom does not play the game16:37
magespawnsee you later16:38
Kilos-inetpro: where is your testimonial18:06
Kilos-ai!18:39
Kilos-ek sukkel darem mety my volk18:39
* theblazehen is here..18:39
Kilos-still early theblazehen 18:45
theblazehenKilos-: ya, I know18:45
Kilos-and im falling asleep already18:45
theblazehenJust letting you know that I'm not skipping this..18:45
Kilos-ty lad18:46
theblazehennp18:46
Kilos-pity you werent here 5 years back18:47
Kilos-this channel was alive18:47
theblazehenheh, what was happening then?18:47
Kilos-peeps had more time18:47
theblazehenah18:47
Kilos-to help me mainly18:47
theblazehenI was actually using ubuntu then at that stage :/18:47
* theblazehen has my ethernet connection back :) Brother got a pc, didn't have a spare port on the router, so I had to tether my phone.. Now I just bridged my two interfaces, and we now both have a wired connection :D18:47
Kilos-cool18:48
Kilos-hi Lionthinker 18:48
Lionthinkeran I early18:48
theblazehenhi Lionthinker, ya18:48
LionthinkerHi Kilos- 18:48
Kilos-yes but good to see you still alive18:48
Lionthinkergood, glad not to be late for once18:48
Kilos-lol18:48
Lionthinkertell me about it, especially on a public holiday18:48
Kilos-gonna be a late night18:49
Lionthinkerwe should definitely mention this as browny points as how much we love Ubuntu18:49
superflyhi Kilos-, Lionthinker, theblazehen18:49
Kilos-did you do a testimonial?18:49
Kilos-evening superfly 18:49
theblazehenhaha, "we're on time" Lionthinker18:49
theblazehenhi superfly18:49
Lionthinkeryip, 20 min ago18:50
Kilos-ty for the nice words18:50
superflywhat time is the actual verification?18:50
Kilos-22.0018:50
theblazehenai.. lets hope my phone battery lasts18:50
Kilos-charge it now so long man18:50
theblazehenIt's on charge18:51
theblazehenLike 50%18:51
theblazehenBut I only have a computer to charge with..18:51
theblazehenSome nights it doesn't even do a full charge18:51
Kilos-then keep charger plugged in all the time18:51
* theblazehen doesn't have a charger..18:51
Kilos-eish18:51
Kilos-but if you have a pc then you dont need the fone too?18:52
Lionthinkertheblazehen, turn of sync, put on battery saver, and of course say a pray to the world, but mainly Eskom18:52
theblazehenKilos-: I like to be in bed..18:52
Kilos-lol lazy18:53
theblazehenLionthinker: won't make much difference. I've tried18:53
theblazehenKilos-: exactly18:53
theblazehenhttps://romanrm.net/mhddfs interesting...18:53
Kilos-i sit by the pc but when lying on the bed can see pc and tv18:53
Kilos-room well organiesd but what a mess18:54
Kilos-parts everywhere18:54
theblazehenah, nice18:54
Kilos-and the bloep is to tell me wake up or attention needed18:55
theblazehenah18:55
* theblazehen has no sound18:55
Kilos-you know bloep?18:55
Kilos-eish no sound18:56
Kilos-id be lost18:56
nlsthznuncle Kilos- uses sonar18:56
Kilos-ai!18:57
Kilos-sorry18:57
theblazehennlsthzn: like an actual sonar thing? Niiiiceee..18:57
=== Kilos- is now known as Kilos
superflywe have an anonymous testimonial18:58
nlsthzntheblazehen, yes, he uses sonar because without sound he would be lost :p18:59
nlsthznsuperfly, ah yes I see that one line :p19:01
nlsthznI also added one for zabear1 who requested it via e-mail19:02
nlsthznbusy moving to the coast 19:02
nlsthznhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/ReVerificationApplication2014?action=info - nice to see how many peeps have edited the page :)19:03
theblazehenhi Maaz19:04
Kiloswb my maiatoday 19:04
theblazehenmaiatoday *19:04
maiatodayhi all19:04
Kilosmethinks nuvolari is asleep19:05
nlsthzno/ maiatoday :)19:06
maiatodayhi nlsthzn 19:06
Kilosmaiatoday: are you happy with the page?19:07
maiatodayWhen I looked it was fine, I haven't looked today again19:07
Kiloswhen did you look?19:07
maiatodaya day or two ago19:08
maiatodaythanks to everyone who made an effort to put this together19:08
Kilosah it grew some19:08
maiatodayI'll look at the page again now19:08
inetproKilos: done19:08
superflyhi maiatoday19:08
superflyg'day inetpro19:08
Kilosty inetpro 19:08
maiatodayhi superfly 19:08
inetprogood evening19:08
nlsthzno/ to all those I haven't greeted yet >.<19:09
Lionthinkerhi all19:09
maiatodayoh wow so many awesome testimonials19:09
theblazehenthe SFD page is up, may wanna remove the "seems to be down" bit19:09
* nlsthzn goes to make some coffee and make sure the kettle is on standby for more later too :D19:09
Kiloshi gremble you made it19:10
nlsthznthe council should already have checked the page afaik but still good to edit it ... not all at once however 19:10
nlsthzn:p19:10
=== gremble is now known as Guest47145
Guest47145Why am I a guest?19:10
Kiloswhat more you wanna edit neelsie19:10
Guest47145Ag vok19:11
Kilossies man19:11
inetproai!19:11
Kiloswe have a lady present grem19:11
nlsthzn>.<19:11
=== gremble_ is now known as gremble
Kiloswe have a lady present gremble 19:11
nlsthznnothing uncle Kilos , just the link that theblazehen has mentioned is now working19:11
Kiloscool19:12
grembleShe's never read an expletive? :x19:12
Kilosya but we are gennlemense19:12
gremblePsh :P19:12
Kiloshehe19:13
grembleI am staying in a house with no wifi19:13
Kilosme too19:13
grembleSo, no gentleman-ness from me19:13
Kilosno you must be good tonight19:13
Kilosmaia has been our contact for years'19:14
Kiloshow are you connecting without wireless19:15
nlsthznabout that... we are still looking for someone willing to be the contact to give maia a break19:15
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Kiloshi magespawn 19:15
nlsthznjust saying19:15
magespawngood evening19:15
nlsthzno/19:15
magespawnwell good to go?19:15
maiatodayI am happy to stay the contact if it means just relaying messages, but if anyone wants to have a turn that is good too19:15
Kilosmaiatoday: do you want a break or will you please stay as our contact19:15
theblazehenhi magespawn19:16
maiatodayI will stay on, but I don't want to stop anyone from trying to be the contact19:16
* Kilos totally happy with maiatoday19:16
nlsthznI think people are scared of the position as they don't know what it entails :p19:16
magespawnhi theblazehen 19:16
grembleWhat nlsthzn said19:16
maiatodayreading emails mostly19:16
nlsthznI am also on the same mailing list...19:17
inetprowe need more members to become active as official ubuntu members19:17
maiatodayand then talking to you guys/gals if there is something important19:17
nlsthznmostly non relevant :p19:17
magespawnalso no need to fix that which is not broken19:17
nlsthznonce a slave always a slave :p19:17
maiatodayyeah mostly I just skim the subject lines unless it is something specific19:17
inetpromaiatoday: thanks for the efforts19:17
nlsthzn+119:17
KilosMaaz: maiatoday ++19:18
maiatodayno problem, thanks to everyone else who has been doing the meetings and making the pages19:18
maiatodayare we doing an official meeting tonight?19:18
maiatodaymust we do intros?19:18
Kilosnuvolari: was supposed to come chair maiatoday 19:18
Kilosyou can take over19:19
Kiloshe is poegaai after work lately19:19
maiatodayMaaz I am Maia Grotepass19:19
Maazmaiatoday: Excuse me?19:19
nlsthznremember two years ago... we pitch up and take the channel over :p19:19
maiatodayurk I can't even do that anymore19:19
nlsthznin #ubuntu-meeting19:19
Kilosyou need to start meeting  first19:20
nlsthzntake over the channel I mean >.<19:20
Kilosif you still have permission19:20
maiatodayyeah we'll do that again, we just mustn't interrupt when the dutch team are up19:20
nlsthzndo we need a meeting here now?19:20
maiatodaydunno, do we?19:20
Kilosnot really19:20
nlsthznI don't think so19:20
inetpronlsthzn: you're welcome to do it but am not sure whether it's really necessary19:20
maiatodayok so we are up before the dutch team19:20
Kilosthis was just to check everything is in place19:20
* nlsthzn is just here to lurk in the meeting 19:21
inetproI changed the topic above just to link directly to the re-verification application19:21
Kilosyou did most of the work nlsthzn 19:21
maiatodayso that just means we can be in the channel and cheer etc but we need to shutup when they come up19:21
nlsthznnah I doubt that uncle Kilos 19:21
Kilosare  you guys in the meeting channel already?19:23
* nlsthzn is19:23
Kiloseish you wanna make me multitask19:24
magespawni just joined19:24
Kiloseek so many there19:25
nlsthznlooking at getting ubuntu membership for some of the peeps doing the work in the loco is something we must look into early next year19:25
nlsthznmost just lurk19:25
nlsthznsome are just about in all ubuntu chaneels19:25
nlsthzn*channels19:25
Lionthinkerits #ubuntu-meeting right?19:25
nlsthznyup19:26
grembleWhat does ubuntu membership entail?19:26
Kilossjoe19:26
nlsthznwe can chat with the dutch team and the others won't understand :p19:26
Kiloshaha19:26
Lionthinkerwhose going to buy an Ubuntu phone next year?19:26
nlsthzna few perks, a certificate, bragging rights ;p19:26
Kilosits too hard nlsthzn 19:27
nlsthznI will believe there is a phone when I see it19:27
maiatodaygremble, you need to be acitive doing stuff for about 6 months atleast then you make a wiki page 19:27
nlsthznnot really... create a wiki and apply19:27
maiatodaythen there is a meeting and they decide, can't remember the exact process19:27
theblazehenLionthinker: I'd rather go for a SailfishOS phone19:27
Kilosi cant do all that stuff19:27
nlsthznyes you can uncle Kilos ...19:27
Lionthinkertheblazehen, why?19:28
maiatodayyou can be a member for coding stuff, packaging but also for social involvement19:28
maiatodayyou totally can Kilos19:28
Kilosoh19:28
maiatodayIt helps if you have testimonials on your wiki19:28
theblazehenLionthinker: I prefer the more "standard" linux stuff, and also like the interface more19:28
theblazeheneg. Wayland + systemd, vs mir and upstart AFAIK19:28
Kilosi dont have a wiki even19:28
theblazehenAnd it's already available to public19:28
nlsthznyou create one in wiki.ubuntu.com19:28
nlsthznfor free19:29
magespawncommitted and sustained involvment is what they require in almost any area that supports ubuntu19:29
nlsthzn+1 magespawn 19:29
nlsthznsome peeps are here 24/7 and keeps the channel going and others are always helping on the mailing lists etc...19:31
nlsthznsustained over many years19:31
nlsthznimo19:31
nlsthznjust need some proof19:31
Kilosnuvolari:  is on his way19:31
maiatodayKilos, you don't need a whole wiki, just one page on the ubuntu wiki19:31
Lionthinkertheblazehen, so are you actually going to place an order for sailfish?19:31
Lionthinkertheblazehen, what of Firefox phone which should be launching next year in SA as well?19:32
theblazehenLionthinker: If I magically come across some cash, sure!19:32
Kilosim thewre but dont see where to make a page19:32
Lionthinkertheblazehen, hehehehe19:32
nlsthznthere is a howto for making it uncle Kilos ...19:32
Kilosdo you click the get involved thiong19:32
theblazehenI think the specs are way too low, combined with the fact that everything is dhtml, will make it really slow19:32
* nlsthzn will help uncle Kilos tomorrow or so if he is still stuck :)19:32
maiatodayKilos, here is my wiki page, you'll see it is quite simple https://wiki.ubuntu.com/maiatoday19:32
Kilosty maiatoday 19:33
maiatodayvery outdated now19:33
maiatodayalso Kilos, I'll write you a testimonial if you make the wiki page19:33
grembleKilos: type in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kilos it should tell you that there is no page and that you can create one19:33
inetprogo for it kilos19:34
nlsthzn+1 uncle Kilos 19:34
nlsthzncould be fun trying to pull some info from all the IRC logs to see who is most active and when etc :)19:35
inetprosomeone please ping me when the meeting starts at #ubuntu-meeting19:35
Kiloswill do inetpro 19:36
inetproty19:36
nlsthznlike a wake-up call :)19:36
Kilosstill looking for the tutorial19:36
Lionthinkerme also Kilos 19:36
Kilosor where to type what gremble said19:36
LionthinkerKilos, please19:36
nlsthzn*sigh*19:36
Kiloswhat Lionthinker ?19:36
nuvolarioh hi19:37
nuvolari:D19:37
nuvolariwhat did I miss?19:37
Kiloshi nuvolari 19:37
nuvolariand where do I need to be?19:37
grembleKilos, in your browser19:37
nlsthznprocedure - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/NewMember19:37
nuvolariI didn't have time to prepare :(19:37
Kiloswe still chatting 19:37
nlsthznwiki page template - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MembershipTemplate19:37
nlsthznno need to be ready nuvolari , just state our case when the council wants it - don't stuff it up and we get re-verified... no pressure ;)19:38
nuvolariwhat is our case? 19:38
nuvolariwho's chairing?19:39
nuvolari:O19:39
nlsthznthe council is chairing in #ubuntu-meeting19:39
nlsthznwe need to attend and they will ask for the contact person to explain stuff19:39
captineevening all19:40
magespawnhi captine19:40
nlsthzno/19:40
nuvolario/ hello19:40
nuvolariwho is the contact person nlsthzn, you or bytjie ( maiatoday )?19:41
nlsthznmaiatoday19:42
maiatodayI am19:42
magespawngoing to have to make it snappy, falling asleep here19:42
Kilosbytjie natuurlik19:42
Kiloshave coffee magespawn 19:42
maiatodaythe meeting only starts at 22:0019:42
nlsthznit is almost midnight here :'(19:42
Kiloshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kilos19:42
Kiloswhy it tells me please dont edit19:42
nlsthznwoohoo uncle Kilos , well done19:42
nlsthznthat is just text you can remove from the template19:43
LionthinkerKilos, ping, 19:43
KilosLionthinker: pong19:43
nlsthznugh, I hate itunes but it makes getting music so easy :'(19:45
magespawnwife is organising real world coffee19:45
magespawnthere is also this for interested people https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/TeamVerificationGuidelines19:45
theblazehennlsthzn: thepiratebay.se19:45
nlsthznthanks magespawn ... I think we used that 19:46
captineis everyone in the meeting chatroom?19:46
theblazehennlsthzn: spotify.com19:46
nlsthzntheblazehen, I stopped pirating music many moons ago19:46
nlsthznand no spotify here...19:46
nlsthznbut I do use grooveshark19:46
nlsthznbut I do like to own the stuff I really like 19:47
gremblepiratebay got taken down19:47
theblazehennlsthzn: grooveshark FTW. I forgot you can't just use a VPN  on spotify :(19:47
theblazehengremble: ah yeah, /me forgot a bit..19:47
nlsthznoldpiratebay.org19:47
theblazehennlsthzn: ty19:47
nlsthznnew managment19:47
Kilosyou guys must greet there19:47
nlsthznslowly getting more stuff...19:47
nlsthznnever!19:47
Kilosnever?19:48
nlsthznok I lied19:48
nuvolariok, I'm here for moral support. is that OK?19:51
nuvolari:D19:51
theblazehenCompiling software over a 100mbit nfs share = bad idea..19:51
Kilosyou part of us nuvolari 19:51
Kilosyou need to take multivitamins and be more active19:52
Kilosso i can sleep more19:52
nlsthznelfy in the meeting channel is an admin in ubuntuforums and also on the community council, cool guy etc :)19:53
Kilosty19:54
captinecool19:54
nuvolariso we're in good hands?19:54
nlsthznwell elfy isn't on the loco council so nah not really :p19:55
nuvolari:O19:56
nuvolari:'(19:56
* nlsthzn isn't a fan of the loco council after they screwed up the loco over here in the uae19:56
nlsthzndue to to much ubuntuness and not enough common sense19:56
Kilosinetpro: you didnt wait for your ping19:56
nlsthznlol19:56
inetproKilos: :-)19:57
Kiloshe does funny things the old man19:57
Kiloshehe19:57
nlsthznall the greetings there is going to get old19:58
Kilosthats fine19:58
Kilosits good manners19:58
nuvolariugh, I'm so tired :O19:59
nlsthzn+119:59
nlsthzn*yawn*19:59
nlsthznalmost tomorrow already 19:59
nlsthznand these meetings are always delayed and takes longer than needed20:00
nlsthznhere we go... or at least here the bot goes20:01
magespawncoffee people, coffee20:01
theblazehenhere we go!20:02
nlsthzn+1 +120:02
Kiloswoooo20:02
Kilossjoe they got lotsa funny stuff when starting meets20:04
Lionthinkernot like us with our howzit20:04
Kilosya hehe20:04
Kilosthey kinda serious20:05
inetproKilos: some of them get paid to do this20:05
Kilosah20:05
Kilosi can be serious too if i get paid20:05
Lionthinkerinetpro, I didn't know that20:05
nlsthznno money for this20:06
Kiloslol20:06
nlsthznonly those working for canonical... and none of these peeps are afaik20:06
inetprorephrase: some of them strive to get paid by Canonical :-)20:06
nlsthznI know on some other councils there are canonical people (on some they are mandatory)20:07
Kilosnuvolari: look and learn20:07
nlsthznagreed... I wouldn't mind inetpro :p20:07
nuvolarieh? I'm looking20:07
nlsthznbusy people need to be efficient :p20:08
Kilossjoe thats heavy stuff20:08
theblazehenAll that voting?...20:08
Kilossjoe20:08
nlsthznhigher up you go the more formal you have to be.20:09
nlsthznmany locos take there status very seriously :)20:09
nuvolariwe're up!20:09
* nuvolari wets pants20:09
nlsthznand the loco concept really helping ubuntu grow20:09
Kiloswe still the friendly loco20:09
nlsthznlol20:10
theblazehenYa, wonder if we can mention that or something?20:10
KilosTell us a bit about what is happening with the South Africa community and please speak to your application.20:10
Kiloswhat does that mean20:11
nlsthzntell us what you have done and explain some of the links and stuff etc...20:11
* nlsthzn sees maiatoday passing the buck and hides20:13
Kilosinetpro: ssshhhh20:13
theblazehenKilos: why sshhh?20:13
nuvolarigood work on the reverification wiki, it looks pretty good!20:14
Kilosim the greeterbot20:14
inetproKilos: say something man20:16
Kiloswhat20:16
captinehey, whats and LTP20:16
nlsthznthere are sites for loco's to show meeting dates and events etc...20:17
nlsthznI am not sure what LTP means rigth now :p20:18
nuvolarinlsthzn: loco team portal20:19
nlsthznlol I had the loco and portal part but couldnt figure out the T >.<20:20
nlsthznre-verification denied but here is some nice phones :p20:23
* nlsthzn jokes20:23
Kiloshaha20:23
nlsthznsuperfly, we could always just make a link file that opens the webchat interface to #ubutnu-za to make it easy for noobs and grandparents20:27
superflynlsthzn: also a better website :-(20:29
nlsthznI was toying with the idea to have some sort of buzz building next year... new logo design as well as new website... and to push for more blogs etc... should target it to school and uni using open source tools to create and licensed with CC with some prizes and stuff20:30
theblazehenHere we go...20:31
* nuvolari holds thumbs20:31
Lionthinkergees this is ball breaking stuff20:31
nlsthznwhoo hoo20:31
nuvolari\o/20:31
captineThanks all for the work done.  I will do my best to get more involved.  maiatoday, what did you mean by needing more people on loco?20:32
maiatodayjust new people with energy to do stuff20:32
maiatodaythanks so much everyone!20:32
maiatoday you rock20:32
Kilosty maiatoday you simply the best20:32
nlsthznwell done all :D20:32
nlsthznnow to bed with me :p20:33
theblazehenWonder if Netherlands will also stay verified..20:33
maiatodayok we should probably make a list of the suggestions in the meeting at some point20:33
inetproKilos: some people are actually gonna start looking into your apt-offline again20:33
Lionthinkercould we note 2 points for our next meeting: apt offline and 20:33
nuvolariawesome! thank you everyone involved in preparations for this reapproval20:33
Kilosnight nlsthzn ty for everything20:33
maiatodaythere were some good ones20:33
theblazehenCya nlsthzn 20:33
Kilosoh my20:33
nuvolarithank you maiatoday for all the work you do20:33
superflynlsthzn: I was thinking of a static site, because it's just so much pain to maintain a CMS for such a little content.20:33
magespawnfrom my quick search it is in debian20:33
Kilosthe aptoncd thing?20:33
maiatodaymy pleasure20:33
Kilosid forgotten about that20:33
Lionthinkerthanks maiatoday and Kilos and nlsthzn  and theblazehen and superfly 20:33
nuvolariand thank you Chris and Penny for coming from afar20:34
Lionthinkerand everyone else20:34
nlsthznlol20:34
Kilosthank you for being here Lionthinker 20:34
captinesuperfly, I have been looking to play with Pico, which looks pretty cool20:34
magespawnsomething like that Kilos 20:34
* nlsthzn is almost convinced to install ubuntu again... almost >.>20:34
nuvolari+1 on static site20:34
captinehttp://picocms.org/20:34
superflycaptine: a number of us, like magespawn, maiatoday and inetpro, have families and things which keep us really busy.20:34
nlsthznstatic site that does what is needed sounds good :)20:34
* Kilos gives nlsthzn a push20:34
nlsthznoff a cliff20:35
captinesuperfly, that is my challenge.  got a 11 month old, and a daughter arriving in Feb20:35
nlsthznor is that of a clif?20:35
LionthinkerKilos, pleasure20:35
captineand just moved countries a year ago...20:35
nuvolarigood luck and congrats captine 20:35
nlsthzncaptine is strong, he moves countries20:35
maiatodaya am grateful for every small snippet of time that anyone puts in20:35
Lionthinkerguys, could we summarise important points quick20:35
Kilosno nlsthzn towards ubuntu20:35
superflycaptine: no. PHP is just no.20:35
Kiloskde better but20:35
* nlsthzn sleeps...zzzz20:35
superflycaptine: I have a 5 year old, a 2 year old and a 3 month old20:36
captinenlsthzn, its all thanks to spinach20:36
captinesuperfly, wow.  you win.20:36
captine:)20:36
superflycaptine: oh, and I lead an open source project.20:36
superflyall outside of my day-job20:36
captinesuperfly, which one?20:36
nuvolarihe's not superfly for nothing20:36
superflyopenlp20:36
captineand what is your day job?20:36
superflyhttp://nomanini.com/20:36
captineI am a chartered accountant doing my best to get my windows IT to move some servers to linux...20:36
Kilosthe fly needs 40 hours in each day20:37
superflyI'm a software and firmware developer20:37
magespawnand that excludes sleep20:37
Kilosya20:37
superfly^^ what they said20:37
superfly:-D20:37
captinei should have gone into software dev... accounting can be boring :)20:37
Kilosim happy, we official again for 2 more years20:38
captinelol.20:38
magespawnit is interesting to see the kind of people here and what they do with their time20:38
nuvolariI'm falling asleep here. need to leave by 4:45. 20:38
nuvolariGood night everyone :)20:38
Kilosnuvolari: ty for joining us20:38
nuvolariCongrats on reapproval!20:38
maiatodaynight nuvolari 20:38
Kiloshave a good rest lad20:38
magespawnnight nuvolari 20:38
superflycaptine: I did accounting up till matric in school, was boring, but easy.20:39
nuvolarithanks oom Kilos. night magespawn, maiatoday, superfly, captine and anyone I might have missed 20:39
superflyyw nuvolari, sleep well.20:39
Lionthinkercheers guys20:39
captineI am more on the IT side though. Spent 5 years implementing Oracle E-Business in SA and Asia for my previous company, now working on Budgetting and Business Intelligence tools at my current company20:40
Kiloscheers Lionthinker 20:40
Kilossleep tight ty for attending20:40
inetproLionthinker: thanks for coming to the meeting20:40
magespawnsuperfly which site where you talking about early?20:41
* inetpro can't wait to see a hands-on review of the phone from Lionthinker20:41
superflymagespawn: http://ubuntu-za.org/20:41
superflyLionthinker: I can get someone at MyBroadband to review it :-)20:41
magespawnahh right, might be a good idea, i can do html and css20:42
superflymagespawn: http://getbootstrap.com/20:42
magespawni can edit in a cms and do limited maintenance but not anything in depth or set one up from scratch20:42
LionthinkerI wrote to them now, to follow up on it. It would be a great way to actually make a dent with Ubuntu in the homeland20:44
Lionthinkersuperfly, noted20:44
magespawnsuperfly that looks interesting20:45
theblazehenmagespawn: yeah, agreed20:45
magespawni have been learning from the deep end with joomla20:45
theblazehenNetherlands also approved..20:45
magespawnsuperfly and nothing in php in bootstrap?20:46
inetprosuperfly: I think a static site would be more than enough to introduce new members 20:46
inetproa wiki on the sidelines would be ideal for guys to capture stuff for reference purposes20:46
superflymagespawn: bootstrap is html, css and js, nothing else20:47
superflyinetpro: why not just use the Ubuntu wiki?20:47
inetprosuperfly: yes, maybe we should promote just that20:48
maiatodaynight all20:48
magespawni have been looking at php and the this 'thing' of variables being able to change their type, stumped me a bit20:48
magespawnnight maiatoday 20:48
inetprogood night maiatoday, and thanks for taking the lead20:48
superflyhttp://hyde.github.io/20:48
maiatoday:) my pleasure, everybody else did all the hard work20:49
superflymagespawn: JavaScript has the same, but it's nowhere near as bad as the PHP mess20:49
captinethe netherlands guys have a goal to update wiki items for new members... maybe that is the best place?20:49
magespawnkeep it all together i think 20:51
magespawnthe NL loco also have their suppor map20:52
magespawnhttp://kaart.ubuntu-nl.org/20:52
magespawni also have to be off to bed, good night all20:55
Kilosaw i missed maia20:59
Kilosand mage20:59
Kilosbut i have a wiki page20:59
inetprowell done Kilos21:02
Kiloslol its nothing to look at compared to maia's but its there21:03
inetproit's a good start21:03
Kilosya ill get you to edit it21:03
Kiloshehe21:04
inetproyou can edit and improve at any point21:04
* inetpro happy to see him getting used to the wiki interface21:04
captineKilos, whats ur wiki page?21:04
Kilosty for joining us tonight inetpro 21:04
inetproKilos: yw21:04
Kiloshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kilos21:04
Kilosi still want to know where you are21:05
Kilosthis reverification thing has taught me lots21:06
Kiloscan edit wiki pages a bit now21:06
captinecool21:08
Kilosnight all. sleep tight. ty for an enjoyable evening21:18

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