[00:08] <bodhi_> Hi all, I have no idea about how to set the keyboard layout on bodhi 3.0 rc2, any help would be really appreciated, I spent some hours today
[00:08] <reisio> set it to what?
[00:08] <daftykins> bodhi as in a distro other than ubuntu?
[00:09] <bodhi_> it derives from ubuntu 14.04 plus enlightenment
[00:09] <k1l_> best is to ask the bodhi support. see on their website where its located
[00:09] <bodhi_> to italian layout like it_IT.UTF8
[00:09] <reisio> it_IT.UTF8 sounds more like a locale than a layout
[00:10] <bodhi_> sorry
[00:10] <rww> !based on ubuntu
[00:11] <bodhi_> I probably did mistake, but I would like my netbook keyboard to work either with keys like ][=-
[00:11] <rww> ask the bodhi linux folks for support, then
[00:17] <MrSavage> the biggest problem i have is the filemanager used for firefox
[00:17] <reisio> ?
[00:20] <k1l_> MrSavage: firefox is a browser.
[00:20] <MrSavage> Yeah but at least on windows it had a decent file picker
[00:20] <MrSavage> that's what bothers me
[00:20] <reisio> decent?
[00:21] <MrSavage> well i could view thumbnails and it saved zoom preferences
[00:21] <reisio> what DE are you using?
[00:21] <MrSavage> I meant the view could be shifted into tiles/thumbnails instead of detailed list view.
[00:21] <MrSavage> reisio: what's DE?
[00:21] <bodhi_> if I had to ask a way to monitor processes from console , you would answer to use the top command although I am on an ubuntu based distribution
[00:22] <k1l_> bodhi_: please dont mix that over and over again. come in here if you use ubuntu. not if you use somewhat other and we dont know what they changed there at all. thanks
[00:23] <zebra111> bodhi_ to my knowledge ubuntu has a top command
[00:23] <MrSavage> reisio, what did you mean by DE?
[00:24] <squinty> desktop enviroment
[00:24] <bodhi_> I think there is a low level way to set keyboard layout
[00:24] <k1l_> MrSavage: desktop enviroment
[00:24] <MrSavage> reisio, i'm using unity
[00:24] <rww> bodhi_: I'm sure the creators of the distribution you *actually use* will be happy to help you with that
[00:24] <rww> and if not, well, maybe you shouldn't use unsupported unofficial Ubuntu derivatives
[00:27] <squinty> MrSavage:  might want to ask in #firefox here on freenode re thumbnails etc
[00:27] <MrSavage> yeah
[00:28] <SoundLogic> Whenever I enter a non-command into the terminal, I'm now getting 6 messages all similar to this: Unable to open binary database /usr/share/command-not-found/programs.d/all-main.db: [Errno 5] Input/output error. Does anyone know why or how to fix this?
[00:29] <bodhi_> it's a question about knowing how to configure linux from console, if you don't know how to do that you have to stay in silence
[00:29] <EriC^^> SoundLogic: type ls -ld /usr/share/command-not-found/programs.d/all-main.db
[00:30] <SoundLogic> This results in: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 184320 Apr  3  2014 /usr/share/command-not-found/programs.d/all-main.db
[00:30] <squinty> MrSavage:  or have a wade through http://kb.mozillazine.org/Firefox_:_FAQs_:_About:config_Entries   :P
[00:31] <bigbang> After fresh install ubuntu 14.04 on laptop, I am unable to change its resolution (680x440) please help?
[00:31] <friizz> Drivers?
[00:32] <MrSavage> squinty, I already tried the file picker option
[00:32] <squinty> bigbang:  first   Software and Updates > additional drivers (or search for Additional Drivers)
[00:32] <raulo> hello, my problem as follows: -i am running wash wlan1, after installing it, and I get the following error:
[00:32] <raulo> Wash v1.4 WiFi Protected Setup Scan Tool
[00:32] <raulo> Copyright (c) 2011, Tactical Network Solutions, Craig Heffner
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[00:32] <raulo> [X] ERROR: Failed to open 'mon0' for capturing
[00:32] <raulo> I run airmon-ng stop mon 1 and I put wlan1 monitor mode, with airmon-ng start wlan1 command (I think because I am fairly new to ubuntu), I need to know, because the wash command does not recognize me wlan1.Gracias in advance
[00:32] <unopaste> raulo you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[00:33] <bigbang> squinty, there are 4 different types of nvidia drivers which one should i install. Will installing nvidia-current from terminal work?
[00:33] <friizz> Yes
[00:33] <David--> hi, trying to install ubuntu from minimal cd and it keeps hanging after selecting the archive choice to download from. I've configured the network correctly and selected different mirrors.... any help please?
[00:33] <k1l_> raulo: we dont support wifi hacking/cracking in here. if you really need that tools please read into the documentations.
[00:34] <squinty> bigbang:  afaik, yes.  then check in nVidia X server settings for setup (it is install with the driver)
[00:35] <Bashing-om> David--: Connected to internet wired ? The kernel should detect and set up networking .
[00:36] <David--> Bashing-om: Yes wired but no DHCP, I have definately set it up correctly though
[00:38] <Bashing-om> David--: Step 1: is the card recognized ? -> sudo lshw -C network <- look in the configuration line to make sure a driver is loaded ( Mine: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=8139too ) .
[00:39] <SoundLogic> EriC^^: What should I do next?
[00:40] <David--> Bashing-om: yes the card is recognised as it gives me the option to configure it manually
[00:41] <Bashing-om> step 2: 2. IP address assigned ? -> ifconfig eth0 (or whichever the network is,eth1) .
[00:41] <David--> just setup a DHCP server so going to try that
[00:42] <EriC^^> SoundLogic: ls -l /usr/share/command-not-found/programs.d/*all-ma*
[00:43] <SoundLogic> Result: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 184320 Apr  3  2014 /usr/share/command-not-found/programs.d/all-main.db
[00:45] <EriC^^> SoundLogic: what happens if you type cat instead of ls -l ?
[00:47] <David--> Bashing-om: It detects the card but doesn't detect the DHCP server and manual configuration is correct but just hangs again after selecting the mirror to download from
[00:48] <Bashing-om> David--: Are you getting out of hose ? what results -> ping -c3 8.8.8.8 < - .
[00:49] <Bashing-om> hose/house*
[00:50] <guest_> hello everybody. i've just done a fresh install and have been dumped into grub rescue mode. what do i do?
[00:51] <David--> Bashing-om: not sure how to get a command prompt from the install?
[00:51] <Bashing-om> David--: Humm .. try F4 , see if that will get ya a terminal .
[00:52] <David--> Bashing-om: nope :(
[00:52] <squinty> guest_:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Troubleshooting  (see Boot Repair first) and  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Command_Line_and_Rescue_Mode   and
[00:53] <Bashing-om> David--: ctl+alt+F4 ??
[00:53] <squinty> guest_:  if dual booting with windows then see if anything at the following applies to your system   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[00:54] <guest_> squinty, not a machine with EFI thankfully
[00:55] <David--> Bashing-om: i got it from escape and then chosing a terminal from the menu
[00:55] <David--> i used ping 8.8.8.8 and it said ping is alive
[00:56] <Bashing-om> David--: Maybe If the install has not been completed, net working to this time has net been set up by te installer ? What have you for -> cat /etc/network/interfaces <- ?
[00:58] <David--> Bashing-om: it shows it configured correctly
[00:58] <David--> Bashing-om: im going to try ftp instead of http mirror
[01:02] <alipoor90> Hi, can some one help me about "btrfs send" ?
[01:06] <David--> Bashing-om: no good :( going to download the full cd and try with that
[01:07] <MrSavage> alright so the firefox build for ubuntu is terrible. where should i make the complaint?
[01:08] <Wulframn> MrSavage: the package manager
[01:08] <Bashing-om> David--: Like I say, unless you are doinf something exotic, in the Minimal CD install, you should have to do nothing for networking to be set up . All you get is a core install with networking .
[01:09] <MrSavage> Wulframn, I only see 1 firefox package
[01:09] <MrSavage> Wulframn, ah woops nvm
[01:10] <Wulframn> MrSavage: I'm not sitting in front of am ubuntu machine right now, but standard practice is to complain to the package maintainer or file bug reports.
[01:10] <MrSavage> Wulframn, would I use the "Ubuntu Software Centre"?
[01:11] <zykotick9> !bug | MrSavage
[01:11] <MrSavage> it's not a bug
[01:11] <MrSavage> it's just a...really bad feature
[01:11] <Wulframn> MrSavage: what is the issue?
[01:11] <MrSavage> the filepicker for this firefox build is terrible
[01:11] <zebra111> What should one do if one reports a bug but after 6 months nobody appears to be doing anything with it?
[01:12] <MrSavage> it's just lacking too much in features
[01:12] <MrSavage> zebra111, you fix it yourself
[01:12] <zykotick9> zebra111: that can be "normal"... unfortunately
[01:12] <Wulframn> zebra111: find a new package that replaces the functionality of the prior one or fix it yourself
[01:12] <zebra111> Thanks MrSavage, zykotick9 and Wulframn! I'll see if I can fix it.
[01:28] <MrSavage> i'm trying to install firefox manually, but it's complaining about a dependency on kdelibs5 but the ubuntu package manager doesn't have it. any help?
[01:29] <odyss3us> do you use kde?
[01:30] <MrSavage> odyss3us: i'm using regular ubuntu so i'm using unity
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[01:32] <unopaste> frankies you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[01:32] <unopaste> frankies you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[01:33] <odyss3us> well, you shouldn't need kdelibs5 then
[01:33] <odyss3us> what do you mean by "manually"?
[01:37] <zebra111> !op | frankies
[01:37] <Flannel> zebra111: eh?
[01:37] <zebra111> frankies is not saying appropriate things
[01:37] <zebra111> i find them racist
[01:37] <Flannel> zebra111: frankies was removed five minutes ago
[01:37] <zebra111> I apologize
[01:38] <Flannel> zebra111: No worries.
[01:38] <epyx> VirtualBox + iTunes + iPod shuffle, would this work?
[01:38] <epyx> throw in Windows XP in that equation
[01:42] <MrSavage> how can i get kdelibs5 on ubuntu? a package i'm trying to install requires it but the package manager doesn't have it
[01:43] <xangua> a package from where¿
[01:44] <odyss3us> open terminal and run apt-get
[01:44] <guest_> still have grub rescue mode issue. "error: symbol 'grub_isprint' not found"
[01:45] <guest_> anyone got anything?
[01:46] <Snake2k> guest_: Did you upgrade to 14.04 Daily?
[01:47] <guest_> Snake2k, nope, its a fresh install
[01:47] <Snake2k> guest_: Interesting
[01:47] <Snake2k> guest_: This is a bug on the launchpad though https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1289017
[01:47] <Snake2k> ^Did that thing just read my mind? >_>
[01:48] <Snake2k> guest_: Anyways, I wonder if grub-install fixes it from a live stick
[01:48] <Snake2k> guest_: Do you have multiple disks?
[01:48] <guest_> nope
[01:49] <Snake2k> guest_: Hmmmm, so you said you "still have grub rescue issues"
[01:49] <Snake2k> guest_: Did you try something before that?
[01:50] <guest_> yes, i was here earlier asking for help
[01:50] <odyss3us> that is a nice bot!
[01:50] <guest_> no i did not
[01:50] <guest_> odyss3us, what do you mean?
[01:50] <mindbender11> Is there a setting  that can emphasize cursor location at the terminal?
[01:51] <odyss3us> im new. didn't know we had a bot that crawled for launchpad bug id's and then explained them
[01:52] <guest_> oh, yeah i guess its handy
[01:52] <zykotick9> mindbender11: it's possible to to set the cursor to a different colour.  mind is bright red.
[01:52] <Snake2k> guest_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1735231
[01:52] <Snake2k> guest_: could help
[01:53] <mindbender11> zykotick9: thanks. I think that's a good idea.
[01:53] <guest_> Snake2k, been there already
[01:54] <Snake2k> guest_: Damn :|
[01:54] <Snake2k> guest_: I'm clueless at this point then :|
[01:55] <guest_> Snake2k, as am i. i'm gonna try an install with a different flavor. weirder things have been cause and solution
[01:55] <Snake2k> guest_: Have you tried reinstalling it?
[01:56] <guest_> Snake2k, yeah.
[01:56] <Snake2k> guest_: Yea then a different flavor would be the thing to try out :|
[01:57] <guest_> Snake2k, its funny how the very actions that broke it may well fix it
[01:57] <Snake2k> guest_: Lol true true
[01:59] <nimmersatt> hey, how do I build a program without its optional dependencies with cmake?
[02:00] <teaearlgraycold> I know it's a bit off topic but anyone have a good VPS host?
[02:00] <teaearlgraycold> I'll run Ubuntu on it I swear
[02:00] <AG_Clinton> As a host myself I use Linode for offsite stuff.
[02:00] <AG_Clinton> They're pretty good.
[02:04] <mindbender11> zykotick9: I'm using gnome-terminal. Can't seem to find a way of setting the cursor color. Only able to set the cursor shape.
[02:09] <guest_> what is up with ubuntu detecting an extra monitor on a laptop?
[02:09] <zykotick9> mindbender11: hummm.  i'm afraid i use urxvt and make the setting in .Xdefault-HOSTNAME, i have NO idea how to do it in gnome-terminal, sorry.  but .Xdefault-HOSTNAME might be something to search for, my line is "URxvt*cursorColor: Red"  Good luck.
[02:10] <zykotick9> mindbender11: just to be clear, the HOSTNAME is the hostname of your system
[02:11] <zykotick9> mindbender11: oops, and it's .Xdefaults-hostname notice the s
[02:12] <blah^> hi im using ubuntu 14.04, and my screen starts freezing after i type in my login password. what can i do?
[02:18] <squinty> !nomodeset | blah^
[02:20] <acmeraptor> Can someone tell me the name of the core nfs install package?
[02:20] <zykotick9> squinty: nomodeset is if the system won't boot, if they can type in there password, that's NOT the issue.  most likely, .Xauthority issue.  but blah^ is gone...
[02:20] <Guest40662> Hello I am having trouble restarting my X server. I have managed to kill the X server with ctrl+alt+backspace
[02:21] <squinty> zykotick9:  quite aware of that   suggestion was to get to the desktop in case it was video driver related.
[02:21] <Guest40662> I now boot into an unresponsive black screen,
[02:22] <Slushster> Im having a freezing issue with 14.04. I know its not hardware and im no new to ubuntu that its a little difficult to trouble shoot. msg me if you need more details
[02:22] <Guest40662> where the only form of input I can give is ctrl+alt+delete for restart, or sysrq for a post beep
[02:23] <Guest40662> Any ideas would be much appreciated. I am very very stuck
[02:24] <Guest40662> help
[02:24] <Guest40662> sorry I was trying to command
[02:24] <Guest40662> #help
[02:25] <Slushster> use "/"
[02:25] <Guest40662> thanks
[02:26] <Slushster> np
[02:26] <acmeraptor> ok the nfs install stuff doesn't seem to be what I needed
[02:26] <Bashing-om> Guest40662: A black screen is generally a graphics driver issue . Try "nomodeset" .
[02:26] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | Guest40662
[02:26] <acmeraptor> i have a wd tv hub that's attached via the lan.  it's samba mounted to the gui, but how can i see it from the cli?
[02:27] <Guest40662> Thanks Bashing, I will try this
[02:28] <Bashing-om> Guest40662: : )) , try and see, else we do something else .
[02:28] <zykotick9> acmeraptor: not sure this still works, but check in ~/.gvfs
[02:30] <Guest40662> Bashing, so do I need to boot from a liveCD?
[02:30] <acmeraptor> zykotick9: i'm coming more from the aix world with nfs mounts.  I don't see a /.gvfs
[02:31] <zykotick9> acmeraptor: ahhh it _might_ not exist.  BUT, it /home/YOURUSERNAME/.gvfs not /.gvfs
[02:31] <Bashing-om> Guest40662: No, in the install, booting to the grub boot menu, and edit the kernel's boot parameter line.
[02:32] <acmeraptor> oh, duh
[02:32] <MrSavage> what internet browser do you guys use?]
[02:32] <acmeraptor> zykotick9: yea /home/MYNAME/.gvfs isn't there,
[02:33] <zykotick9> acmeraptor: ya, sorry, that was from a few years ago.  i have no idea now.  best of luck.
[02:34] <acmeraptor> zykotick9: cool, thanks for trying anyway.. i don't have a lot of time to waste on this one... it's only because i wanted to see if i could link the files one the ip connected drive to my ftp server.  ya know, instead of copying everything to my local drive, thus doubling it.. meh :)
[02:40] <dzine> This is my first IRC. So far amazing!
[02:41] <acmeraptor> Greetings, program dzine.
[02:41] <dzine> thank you
[02:42] <dzine> :)
[02:42] <Guest40662> How can one boot into grub? I have tried shift and c
[02:42] <Guest40662> at boot time
[02:42] <Guest40662> I am able to access BIOS however
[02:43] <_unreal_> Guest40662, should just HIT c
[02:43] <Bashing-om> Guest40662: UEFI system ? then As soon as the bios screen clears, depress and hold the escape key to get the grub boot menu .
[02:43] <acmeraptor> i don't think it's shift-c
[02:43] <bubbasaures> Guest40662, tapping shift immediately at powering on should get you a grub menu, unless you have modified grub.
[02:44] <zykotick9> Bashing-om: ESC of grub?  isn't it hold SHIFT?
[02:44] <zykotick9> s/of/for/
[02:44] <Guest40662> got it
[02:44] <_unreal_> what was it for you?
[02:44] <Bashing-om> zykotick9: Generally, yeah .. UEFI recognizes the escape key however .
[02:44] <zykotick9> Bashing-om: interesting... thanks.
[02:45] <_unreal_> Guest40662, what was it for you?
[02:45] <Guest40662> It was just c, I must have been hitting it at the wrong time
[02:45] <acmeraptor> weird
[02:45] <_unreal_> thats what I expected. thats been the standard for YEARS
[02:46] <phunanon> I have a really fustrating issue... anybody there?
[02:47] <bubbasaures> phunanon, Detail the issue to the channel for help.
[02:47] <phunanon> Well, I just wanted to see if I could run xfce4 ontop of Unity
[02:48] <phunanon> and so I apt-get'd xfce4
[02:48] <bubbasaures> phunanon, you can install xfce4 yes
[02:48] <phunanon> Played for a while, then realised how much there was to unistall
[02:48] <phunanon> So, I unistalled most of it
[02:49] <phunanon> The most dire issue is, I can no longer log into my account!
[02:49] <phunanon> It just flashes black for a while and then returns
[02:49] <Guest40662> oh dear god
[02:49] <epyx> sweet Jesus
[02:49] <Guest40662> i may have done something catastrophic
[02:50] <Guest40662> What is parted magic?
[02:50] <epyx> partition manager
[02:50] <Bashing-om> Guest40662: Happens. but it's ubuntu, it is fixable - with time and effort .
[02:50] <phunanon> Can anybody help? :c
[02:50] <bubbasaures> phunanon, Have you tried a tty login in?
[02:50] <phunanon> Yes, it works
[02:51] <phunanon> it's how I got rid of most of the dependent packages
[02:51] <epyx> the sweet thing is, thanks to a home folder with all your configs a reinstall isn't that time consuming :)
[02:51] <thongbkvn> Hello everybody :)
[02:51] <bubbasaures> phunanon, Than be really clear, you said it did not log in, bit yet it does in a tty, do you see what I mean?
[02:51] <phunanon> and created another account, but I really just want my old one back. I need it
[02:51] <zykotick9> phunanon: "ls -l ~/.Xauthority" who owns the file?
[02:51] <bubbasaures> but*
[02:51] <Guest40662> I accidentally ran it. it seemed to install some kind of parted magic OS and opened that....
[02:52] <Guest40662> I didn't know what was happening, but my HD was getting really loud
[02:52] <phunanon> I do
[02:52] <zykotick9> phunanon: nevermind then...  good luck.
[02:52] <phunanon> My account, phunanon; the acc I'm logged into
[02:53] <phunanon> That's... all I can do? I have all my settings and College work and ugh xc
[02:54] <phunanon> Where else do I go?
[02:54] <acmeraptor> backup your stuff people. case in point^^^
[02:54] <Bashing-om> Guest40662: Now that "might Be a Problem " .. what is the status of 'parted magic' . Still running, or have you exited out ?
[02:54] <phunanon> You can't back up Firefox extentions stuff... and settings...
[02:54] <phunanon> I can still access my stuff
[02:55] <Flannel> phunanon: Just be patient here, someone will be able to help you.  Your data is still there, don't worry about that.  So anyone who tells you to reinstall is silly.
[02:55] <Guest40662> I got out of Parted Magic, trying to get back to booting into Ubuntu now... It is trying to boot into windows
[02:55] <phunanon> I just need this to go onto my old Unity... installing Xfce4 changed something
[02:55] <Guest40662> okay. I am back to the original error, where I face a black unresponsive screen with a flashing cursor
[02:56] <bubbasaures> phunanon, Do a install reinstall of the ubuntu-desktop that is unity
[02:56] <Flannel> phunanon: You'll want to write up your problem succinctly, so new people can quickly get up to speed on your issue (this is a constantly changing channel).  However you're going to need more details about what you added/removed if you've got them (or at least current symptoms).  In the mean time, I agree, try a reinstall of ubuntu desktop (sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop)
[02:57] <bubbasaures> that's where I would start
[02:57] <phunanon> What's the cmd to reinstall jush quickly?
[02:57] <phunanon> *t
[02:57] <guest_> Snake2k, well, it worked. thanks
[02:57] <pingjocky> settings_autosave = ON
[02:58] <Bashing-om> Guest40662: Boot to the grub boot menu. With the ubuntu kernel with an asterisk to the left press 'e' key for edit mode -> boot paramters screen. Arrow down to line similar "linux    /boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-24-generic root=UUID=217ed9a7-e11a-4e32-8c05-992e8c8932b6 ro  quiet splash $vt_handoff" ; arrow across to the terms quiet splash and add the term "nomodeset" - without the quotes. key combo ctl+x to continue the boot process . Do you now get to 
[02:59] <Flannel> phunanon: `sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop`
[02:59] <bubbasaures> phunanon, sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[03:00] <phunanon> I'll do that after it's normal install for good measure...
[03:00] <phunanon> *its
[03:00] <bubbasaures> try Flannel's first phunanon
[03:00] <Flannel> phunanon: Don't use the installer, that doesn't make any sense.
[03:00] <phunanon> It was too late xD Now using --reinstall
[03:00] <Guest40662> Bashing, I am actually unable to get to grub now. So, I have a bit of a hack of a dual boot going. I set Boot mode to UEFI to boot from windows, and Legacy to boot from ubuntu. When it is set to Legacy, I can't get into grub
[03:01] <agent_white> Evenin folks
[03:01] <phunanon> Okay, that's reinstalled, apparently
[03:01] <dzine> Good evening agent White.
[03:02] <phunanon> It didn't work again :c
[03:02] <phunanon> I try to log it, and in a flash, at the top left, there's an error dialouge
[03:02] <phunanon> *in
[03:04] <Bashing-om> Guest40662: I have no experience with UEFI, others I hope can assist . But need to boot to the GUI and perhaps from Additional Drivers, reinstall a graphics driver .
[03:04] <Guest40662> What is the difference even
[03:05] <Bashing-om> Guest40662: A lot, main board firmware, and partitioning scheme and booting process .
[03:06] <phunanon> To recap, I installed xfce4 while using Unity, I want to keep Unity, I tried uninstalling all of xfce4, I can no longer log into the account as it flashes black then returns to the greeter
[03:07] <phunanon> Any ideas?
[03:07] <Guest40662> and apparently how to get into grub...
[03:08] <Guest40662> Strange how some of these things are so difficult to google.
[03:08] <AnonUnk> ESC should do fine
[03:09] <Guest46560> Hello, how can I tell what graphics driver I should be using?
[03:09] <Guest40662> To recap, I killed my x server, now I boot into a black unresponsive screen. Now I am trying to boot into grub to set nomodeset, but cannot get to grub
[03:10] <AnonUnk> by your GC manufacturer
[03:10] <Guest40662> I am using boot mode legacy, I have tried c, esc, shift, and shift c
[03:10] <Guest46560> AnonUnk, it appears there are multiple options
[03:11] <AnonUnk> What are they?
[03:12] <Guest46560> nvidia-kernel and nvidia-glx from what I understand, AnonUnk
[03:12] <Guest40662> hey that's funny, guest46560 . I was in your shoes 2 hours ago
[03:13] <Flannel> phunanon: What error message is given?  Also, next to your login name, is there a gear?  If so, click it, what options does it give you?
[03:13] <AnonUnk> then you should try to install nvidia grafics drivers
[03:13] <Guest40662> I was installing a new nvidia driver, it said to kill my x server, I did so and now cannot boot back into ubuntu
[03:13] <Guest46560> Guest40662, so don't do what you did??? haha!
[03:14] <Guest46560> Guest40662, I have it working fine, but can't get video from Minitube
[03:14] <Guest40662> yes. do not kill your x server
[03:14] <take_a_dump> Hi, I have a question about ubuntu.  Can someone here help me please?
[03:15] <reisio> take_a_dump: once you ask your question
[03:15] <AnonUnk> Then there may be error logs about x server in logs
[03:15] <take_a_dump> Okay well my question is this:
[03:15] <take_a_dump> I defecate too much.  What should I do?
[03:16] <reisio> I wonder what too much is
[03:16] <Guest40662> most people have the opposite problem
[03:16] <Flannel> Or we could just not feed the trolls.
[03:17] <michael6969> I'm on 14.04 and trying to run a script via cron and save the output to a file. I'm editing the root crontab with `sudo crontab -e` and entering the following which works fine when run on the shell "*/1 * * * * /home/michael/temps.sh > /home/michael/temp-info/temp-`date +"%Y-%m-%d_%H:%M:%S.%N"`" but doesn't run in cron. I see entries in /var/log/auth.log but they just say "session opened" and "session closed"
[03:17] <Guest46560> Guest40662, on my last Mint install i had the same problem. Trashed the whole thing, took me forever to get a GUI.
[03:18] <Guest40662> well that is far from comforting
[03:18] <Unicum> ciao
[03:19] <phunanon> Guys! Okay, so, Unity was busted for starting at login
[03:19] <phunanon> but, I switched to MATE
[03:19] <Unicum> really
[03:20] <phunanon> After naving through.... that... I managed to run Unity
[03:20] <Unicum> i'm using gnome shall
[03:20] <phunanon> now, I have, like, Unity, but the cursor is a cross
[03:20] <phunanon> And no windows have borders...
[03:22] <phunanon> My unity launcher!!!
[03:22] <captine> hi all.  not 100% ubuntu related, but for some reason both firefox and chrome are telling me their flash is unsupported on youtube etc...  I check plugins and shockwave flash is the latest in firefox.  Anyone else had this issue?  http://imgur.com/YfcSA0K   http://imgur.com/DhnvWYQ
[03:22] <reisio> my eggo!
[03:22] <captine> running 14.04
[03:22] <phunanon> I used unity --replace
[03:22] <reisio> captine: probably not the latest
[03:22] <phunanon> how do I get this to stick? ._.
[03:23] <underline> captine, from my understanding adobe no longer supports linux.
[03:23] <reisio> underline: :p
[03:23] <Joshua^Dunamis> captine: you have to upgrade flashplugin from distribution
[03:23] <reisio> captine: you just need a more recent version of Flash is all
[03:23] <reisio> although it is infinitely stupid for Firefox to attempt to be smarter than you in this fashion
[03:23] <reisio> as the older version of Flash works just fine
[03:23] <reisio> they've basically broken your youtube as a personal favor to you
[03:23] <reisio> don't forget to thank them
[03:24] <captine> reisio, thnx.  but not sure how to update if firefox says I am running the latest.  Thanks all.  The weird thing is even Google Chrome is giving me the message but Chrome comes with flash included...
[03:24] <reisio> 'latest' isn't a version
[03:24] <Joshua^Dunamis> it was discovered a security issue, so Firefox blocked that plugin verison
[03:24] <reisio> and you update software on GNU/Linux using your package manager
[03:25] <reisio> anyways, all the version of Ubuntu from 12.04 up have the _actual_ latest version that you want available to them
[03:25] <Joshua^Dunamis> we had the same problem in Manjaro Linux, but yesterday the new flashplayer was on repositories and now Firefox works fine again...
[03:25] <reisio> you just need to update
[03:26] <reisio> all the versionS*
[03:26] <Finetundra> is there any way to get the green ambiance theme from ubuntu MATE on regular ubuntu?
[03:26] <underline> reisio, I think he was asking how to perform the update ;)
[03:27] <reisio> same as any other update
[03:27] <reisio> updating is updating
[03:27] <reisio> Finetundra: yes, copy it
[03:27] <Finetundra> reisio, how or from where?
[03:27] <reisio> Finetundra: any way you please, from where it is :)
[03:27] <reisio> Finetundra: it's probably available in a/set of .debs, though
[03:28] <xangua> there is an ambiance colors pack in gnome-look.org Finetundra
[03:28] <Finetundra> reisio, sigh. was hoping for something less vague, but that works i guess
[03:29] <reisio> Finetundra: I was too :)
[03:29] <underline> captine, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Chromium/Getting-Flash
[03:30] <reisio> underline: all he needs is to update his system in the normal fashion
[03:30] <underline> captine, sudo apt-get install pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[03:30] <underline> reisio, no it doesn't do the non free by default
[03:31] <reisio> underline: he already has non-free
[03:31] <underline> obviously he don't
[03:31] <reisio> there is no non-non-free version of Flash, Flash is Flash
[03:31] <underline> lol
[03:31] <reisio> he just has an old version
[03:32] <underline> yeah
[03:39] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[03:39] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, greetings
[03:39] <Snew> Salutations
[03:39] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: hello mate
[03:39] <cfhowlett> :)
[03:40] <Snew> What's shakin'?
[03:40] <Guest40662> recent development: I boot and get the following message: ISOLINUX 4.0.7 2013-07-25 .... aborted.
[03:40] <Guest40662> Than there is a prompt for boot:
[03:40] <lotuspsychje> Guest40662: how did you create your usb stick?
[03:40] <Guest40662> When I type anything, press enter, it says "Could not find kernel image"
[03:41] <Guest40662> I didn't create the cd, my brother did for me
[03:41] <lotuspsychje> Guest40662: wich ubuntu version?
[03:42] <Guest40662> I have ubuntu 14.04 on my computer, the CD is an ultimate boot CD
[03:42] <lotuspsychje> Guest40662: what are you trying to do exactly?
[03:44] <Guest40662> I am trying to boot into Grub, some context: I killed my x server, now ubuntu loads into an unresponsive black screen (even magic sysrq keys don't work)
[03:44] <lotuspsychje> Guest40662: did you try grub recoverymode?
[03:44] <Guest40662> how do I do that?
[03:45] <lotuspsychje> Guest40662: hold shift during boot, to enter grub then choose ubuntu(recoverymode) line
[03:45] <Snew> WIsh it had 3.12.35 kernel
[03:46] <Guest40662> I am dual booting windows, and holding shift gives me windows recovery menu
[03:46] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | Guest40662
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> Snew?
[03:47] <reisio> achew
[03:47] <Guest40662> Where is Richard Stallman when you need him
[03:48] <lotuspsychje> Snew: wich ubuntu version did you have?
[03:48] <xangua> Guest40662: he doesn't even encourage ubuntu
[03:48] <Snew> Snow
[03:48] <Guest40662> I know lol
[03:48] <Snew> It's Snew
[03:49] <Guest40662> He would probably take my videocard out first
[03:49] <Snew> Ya know?
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> Snew: this is a support channel mate, keep it ontopic please
[03:50] <Guest40662> I got into ultimate boot CD!!
[03:51] <lotuspsychje> do we have an usb create trigger for the new method that shows on ubuntu.com here? http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[03:52] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, this?  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent#Installing_Ubuntu_on_USB_drive_using_Windows
[03:52] <Snew> Ubuntu 11.04 The Natty Narwhal
[03:53] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: well i dont see that universal usb maker on that wiki
[03:53] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, must be something new.  not here either: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#Creating_a_bootable_Ubuntu_USB_flash_drive_from_Windows
[03:54] <lotuspsychje> !usb outdated
[03:54] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, indeed.  that new page should be top-stickied IMO
[03:54] <lotuspsychje> !usb | lotuspsychje outdated
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> hmm there was a way to get the word outdated right to the ops :p
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> forgot howto
[03:56] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: would be handy for new ubuntu users from windows right?
[03:56] <Guest40662> How can I restore grub from inside linux? I have successfully logged in
[03:56] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, yeah, the easier, the better.  that looks like a simple point/click solution.  easy to read, too.
[03:57] <lotuspsychje> Guest40662: boot into your recoverymode then from terminal sudo update-grub
[03:57] <lotuspsychje> Guest40662: hopefully it will restore grub dualboot
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> !fixgrub | Guest40662
[04:02] <Guest40662> I did not have grub dualboot properly working
[04:02] <Guest40662> previously
[04:03] <Guest40662> I could never get Ubuntu to run in UEFI boot mode
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> Guest40662: make your life easy mate, and install ubuntu on your full HD
[04:03] <Guest40662> It is on my full HD....
[04:04] <Guest40662> oh you mean, don't partition HD?
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> Guest40662: yes, loose windows once and for good
[04:04] <Guest40662> I have SSD 1/2 Windows 7, 1/2 Ubuntu
[04:04] <Guest40662> I am considering it... but I wouldn't be able to play like 75% of my Steam games ever again =/
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> Guest40662: with ssd and ubuntu64bit on your full hd, your system will go like rocket
[04:05] <lotuspsychje> Guest40662: ubuntu has steam
[04:05] <Guest40662> I know, but only fraction of games are compatible
[04:05] <Guest40662> and I am facing many issues with the ones that are
[04:06] <Guest40662> the whole reason i got into this mess is because I was trying to get a game working on Steam. I needed to upgrade my nvidia driver, which required me to restart my x server, which killed my ubuntu partition =[
[04:06] <lotuspsychje> Guest40662: did you have the right driver loaded in the first place?
[04:06] <Guest40662> No. I just had the default driver
[04:07] <Guest40662> I looked online for the driver compatible with my graphics card and tried to install that
[04:07] <lotuspsychje> Guest40662: can you remember if you installed ubuntu with cable on/updates on?
[04:07] <Guest40662> I didn't install ubuntu originally, my brother did it
[04:08] <lotuspsychje> Guest40662: what grafix card chipset and driver do you have?
[04:09] <Guest40662> geforce gtx 760
[04:09] <Guest40662> nvidia 304.125 was installed already, then I realized I needed 340.xxx
[04:09] <lotuspsychje> Guest40662: is that an optimus card?
[04:10] <Guest40662> I don't know what an optimus card is
[04:10] <Dislexyk> Kill the Desktop and install the .bin
[04:10] <lotuspsychje> Guest40662: did the driver loaded by default not work good on your system?
[04:10] <Guest40662> It didn't support OpenGl 3+
[04:11] <Guest40662> and yea, bunch of games did not work because of that
[04:11] <Dislexyk> STEAM asks for bleeding edge drivers, even though your game might still work without it
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> Guest40662: is that a gtx 760M?
[04:12] <Guest40662> no just 760
[04:12] <Guest40662> well, the games would start, but be black screen, or just not start at all
[04:12] <Guest40662> I googled around, and found the cause of these problems is likely outdated opengl
[04:13] <Guest40662> which requires updated graphics driver to update
[04:13] <lotuspsychje> Guest40662: make sure if your card is an optimus technology
[04:13] <lotuspsychje> Guest40662: if it does, you need nvidia-prime driver
[04:14] <Guest40662> here it is: http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-760
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> !info nvidia-prime | Guest40662
[04:14] <Guest40662> I don't think my card is optimus
[04:14] <Guest40662> after some quick googling
[04:15] <lotuspsychje> dont see it neither
[04:16] <lotuspsychje> Guest40662: you could try nvidia-current
[04:16] <Guest40662> I was trying that, but when I installed it in synaptic, it broke like 50+ packages
[04:16] <lotuspsychje> Guest40662: or switch around additional drivers section, until you got your crad good
[04:16] <Guest40662> or warned me that it would
[04:17] <Guest40662> my crad?
[04:17] <lotuspsychje> card sorry
[04:17] <lotuspsychje> :p
[04:17] <lotuspsychje> Guest40662: with a beast grafix card like yours, you should be able to game properly
[04:18] <Guest40662> I know right, and windows works out great for this. I use ubuntu primarily for development
[04:19] <Guest40662> I never intended to play games on ubuntu, until I tried Kerbal Space Program on it, because only Ubuntu supports 64bit KSP. So then I continued to install games on Ubuntu, and I realized the issues with my card driver
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> Guest40662: investigate your system a bit, check your syslog or dmesg for errors on your grafix
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> Guest40662: there must be going something wrong with your driver
[04:20] <Guest40662> !dmesg
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> Guest40662: you can switch a name with /nick newnick, be more easy to find you :p
[04:20] <Guest40662> So now I can log into Ubuntu with grub on a boot cd, but not  any other way.... maybe my grub is messed up
[04:21] <RickSanchez> alright
[04:21] <RickSanchez> the /help command doesn't give any output on this browser client
[04:21] <lotuspsychje> RickSanchez: i would try to startover fresh, install 14.04 with a cable + updates during setup
[04:22] <RickSanchez> !cable
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> RickSanchez: internet cable
[04:22] <RickSanchez> didn't think that would work
[04:22] <RickSanchez> oh
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> RickSanchez: its important to choose the right driver from start
[04:22] <RickSanchez> thought it was some high level kernel-developer-esque term for something far more complex than I could ever understand
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> lol
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> RickSanchez: do you have another machine to game from?
[04:23] <RickSanchez> Nope. I got a macbook pro, and this beast machine with Ubuntu/Windows 7
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> kk
[04:24] <RickSanchez> now it has Windows 7/Black screen of death
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> RickSanchez: well we should have your machine run steam+ right drivers properly from ubuntu
[04:25] <RickSanchez> Yes, but first I'll need to do some major backing up
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> RickSanchez: wise choice :p
[04:25] <caseswitch> how do I sudo as user X?
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> caseswitch: i use sux for that, but package has been removed for security reasons
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> caseswitch: this way i can sux username firefox
[04:26] <caseswitch> can't I just sudo with some parameters?
[04:26] <RickSanchez> are you using X as a generic user name or is user X a thing?
[04:26] <RickSanchez> !user X
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> caseswitch: you can use gksudo also for that
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> caseswitch: from another user it will say you dont have privileges
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> caseswitch: man gksudo
[04:29] <caseswitch> gksudo won't work
[04:29] <caseswitch> I'll have to open up a completely new tty it seems
[04:30] <Ben64> caseswitch: what are you trying to do
[04:30] <Auv> If I wanted to change the minimum brightness value, how would I do so?
[04:30] <caseswitch> Ben64: created a user but realized that that user is handicapped
[04:30] <Auv> Currently the lowest value is too low.
[04:30] <caseswitch> Ben64: that user needs sudo
[04:31] <Ben64> caseswitch: ok, so add that user to the sudo group
[04:31] <caseswitch> Ben64: so I opened up another tty, logged in as a sudoer and 'adduser theuser sudo'
[04:34] <caseswitch> can you have an /etc/host for a local user?
[04:35] <caseswitch> I mean, something corresponding
[04:42] <mathewji> hi
[04:43] <mutual> hi
[04:43] <mutual> after i login, i get a black screen
[04:43] <mutual> but i was able to get a terminal
[04:43] <mutual> but i don't know what to do now
[04:44] <mutual> i can't get connected to the wifi
[04:44] <mutual> but wlan0 is operationa
[04:44] <mutual> l
[04:44] <mutual> i either need to fix my drivers somehow through the terminal
[04:44] <mutual> or get the wifi working
[04:44] <mutual> idk
[04:44] <mutual> any ideas?
[04:44] <mutual> i tried connecting to the wifi via wpa_supplicant but it didn't work
[04:44] <ChrisGibbs> anyone have any ideas how i can preseed a ubuntu 14.04 unattended installation and use eth1? It configures the network for the 2nd NIC but stops and prompts to continue as no default gateway is set. Our provisioning network doesnt have a gateway... eth0 is the primary port with a default GW. The provisioning network instead relies on a proxy server to grab content from mirrors.
[04:45] <ChrisGibbs> Using PXELinuux to pass in
[04:45] <ChrisGibbs> auto=true netcfg/get_gateway=10.250.0.10 netcfg/dhcp_timeout=30 netcfg/choose_interface=eth1 BOOTIF=00:0c:29:70:70:80
[04:52] <mutual> anyone?
[04:53] <reisio> ?
[04:53] <mutual> i got to a terminal from a black screen
[04:53] <mutual> the login screen loads fine
[04:53] <mutual> but then after i login it goes to black
[04:53] <mutual> but i can control shift f1 and get to a terminal
[04:53] <mutual> but now the wifi doesn't work
[04:53] <reisio> can you right click in the blackness?
[04:53] <mutual> lemme check
[04:54] <cfhowlett> reisio, +1 for the excellent philosophical query!
[04:54] <mutual> no
[04:54] <reisio> cfhowlett: heh
[04:54] <reisio> mutual: no mouse cursor, then?
[04:54] <mutual> cfhowlett, lol
[04:55] <bookchan> hello
[04:55] <mutual> reisio, ^
[04:56] <mutual> reisio, hold on i will reboot
[04:56] <mutual> reisio, to get back to the original black screen
[04:56] <reisio> oof
[04:56] <reisio> rebooting never helped anything :)
[04:56] <reisio> bookchan: hi
[04:56] <reisio> mutual: grep EE /var/log/Xorg*
[04:57] <mutual> reisio, one sec rebooting
[04:58] <lechekepasla> hi everybody
[04:59] <reisio> hi leche
[05:00] <mutual> reisio what do you want me to do with that command
[05:00] <reisio> mutual: just see what it says
[05:00] <mutual> reisio there's no way for me to copy and paste it
[05:00] <reisio> you could pastebinit if you wanted
[05:00] <mutual> reisio, no i cant
[05:00] <mutual> reisio, no internet
[05:00] <reisio> heh
[05:00] <reisio> "no internet" — guy on IRC
[05:00] <mutual> reisio, if i had a wireless connection i'd probably be ok
[05:00] <mutual> reisio, i am on another computer obviously
[05:01] <reisio> semantics
[05:01] <mutual> lmao
[05:01] <mutual> i can summarize the last few lines
[05:01] <mutual> unfortunately it ran off the screen
[05:01] <mutual> the virtual terminal im using has the font set way too big
[05:01] <reisio> :)
[05:02] <mutual> reisio, should i give up and reinstall from CD?
[05:02] <mutual> iwconfig shows my wireless card is working
[05:02] <mutual> but wpa_supplicant fails
[05:02] <mutual> idk why
[05:03] <reisio> no, reinstallation is something Windows users do
[05:03] <mutual> :D
[05:03] <mutual> so wat do
[05:03] <reisio> grep EE command probably has all the info you need
[05:03] <mutual> reisio what would it show
[05:04] <caseswitch> ufw, will it allow local connections or block those too?
[05:04] <reisio> mutual: errors
[05:04] <mutual> reisio i outputted it to a text file
[05:04] <reisio> that's the way :)
[05:04] <reisio> adios
[05:05] <mutual> nooooo
[05:05] <caseswitch> zup, so lamp isn't in the repo anymore?
[05:06] <somsip> !find lamp | caseswitch
[05:06] <caseswitch> somsip: I've already checked ofc
[05:11] <masoudborbor> hi. 1404+unity. no right click on desktop. ad when I try to change my background it doesnt change.
[05:12] <mutual> i'm this close away to reinstalling: |                                                         |
[05:17] <Hygiea> my feeling is mutual, mutual
[05:18] <masoudborbor> hi. 1404+unity. no right click on desktop. ad when I try to change my background it doesnt change.
[05:25] <thongbkvn> Hello every body
[05:25] <thongbkvn> :0
[05:25] <thongbkvn> anyone here
[05:30] <thongbkvn> is anyone here? :)
[05:30] <caseswitch> you can apt-get install something^    , what's the ^ for? is it like.. a secret?
[05:30] <caseswitch> thongbkvn: LOL! I AM HERE LOL!
[05:30] <thongbkvn> :v
[05:30] <thongbkvn> I'm new member of Linux world
[05:31] <RickSanchez> you can use ^ to replace text from a previous command with different text
[05:32] <RickSanchez> cat ~/.vimrc
[05:32] <thongbkvn> who can tell me
[05:32] <RickSanchez> ^cat^vi
[05:32] <RickSanchez> I think that's how to use it. I can't remember
[05:32] <thongbkvn> how to create an IRC botnet
[05:34] <moramis> Hi all. I just upgraded my server from 10.04 to 14.04 and ran into a few problems. The urgent one is that runit is broken. When I try to upgrade it, I get "start: Unknown job: runsvdir" and dpkg dies. I thought I'd just remove it and reinstall it, but it threatens to uninstall everything that depends on it. Any tips?
[05:38] <tekkbuzz> moramis: what would depend on it, it's an extra type package. I don't see anything that depends on it.
[05:39] <moramis> tekkbuzz: I'm showing bincimap-run depending on it.
[05:40] <moramis> I'll just remove that too and figure it out from there.
[05:40] <tekkbuzz> I don't see bincimap-run in the repos.
[05:40] <tekkbuzz> maybe it's been dropped.
[05:41] <moramis> Yeah this was a big jump. I'm surprised it went as smooth as it did. Of course, I haven't rebooted yet.
[05:42] <tekkbuzz> i had problems last time I upgraded, lucky I had some backups of my configs and stuff.
[05:42] <moramis> I put it off because it never goes well. ;)
[05:42] <tekkbuzz> yeah, that's what i do.
[05:52] <tekkbuzz> moramis: I think your safe http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/bincimap-run , http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/runit .
[05:53] <moramis> Cool, thanks.
[06:07] <julianvb> How can I activate the CTL+ALT+T terminal command in Mint 17?
[06:10] <therue> anyone run linux through Virtualbox on their windows machine by any chance?
[06:10] <julianvb> Bye
[06:10] <schenzm> I have in the past
[06:13] <therue> it felt kind of laggy for me though
[06:13] <therue> is there a difference in peroformance between running linux from windows via virtualbox vs vmware?
[06:14] <schenzm> idk i only use virtualbox
[06:29] <Spynxic> Would this be the appropiate way to start this script: ./extsort.sh jpg,bmp,txt (Appropiate meaning will the 3 values be stored in the array as separate elements) [And would ./extsort.sh initiate the array values at size 0 since no parameters are specified or would the ARRAY variable be null] http://paste.ubuntu.com/9537330/
[06:34] <tekkbuzz> Spynxic: ask on #bash they would know.
[06:34] <Spynxic> tekkbuzz: Alright, thanks
[06:44] <bacon> heya, my dad's laptop is very problematic with newer versions of ubuntu; I want to install version 11.10, but when trying it from usb stick, it doesn't seem to be able to install ubuntu-restricted-extras or anything else actually...
[06:46] <UTL> Good evening, folks! I signed on because I have a recurring problem. I have downloaded Audacity for Windows and Ubuntu. Audacity for Windows works perfectly, but ever since I got it for Ubuntu, it hangs and crashes during playback of songs. I have reinstalled, but this does not fix the problem.
[06:46] <bacon> so... any ideas if apps can still be installed on ubuntu 11.10?
[06:48] <UTL> I have noticed that Audacity is constantly being updated, so I partly wonder if it's buggy. To be sure, I want to know if anyone else has this problem, and/or if anyone can tell me how to fix it.
[06:50] <hateball> !eol | bacon
[06:53] <UTL> bacon: While I'm waiting for a response for my question, I can answer yours. I had Kubuntu 6.04 (Dapper Drake). The way I was able to get access to the necessary stuff was to change my repositories so it would be coming from http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/.
[06:54] <UTL> I don't know much about the version you're using. You may have to manually edit the sources.list file as root with a text editor.
[06:54] <UTL> That's what I did.
[06:55] <ararob> that's weird. With Xubuntu, i didn't have to do anything of that nature.
[06:55] <caseswitch> how do I build chrome from source?
[06:56] <emacer> caseswitch, #chromium
[06:56] <UTL> ararob: Well, each fork of Ubuntu would be different, naturally. Xubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, while Kubuntu  is Ubuntu with KDE.
[06:57] <ararob> sure.
[06:57] <ararob> bacon:which ubuntu are you trying to install?
[06:59] <bacon> UTL: thanks, will keep thati n mind
[06:59] <UTL> bacon: You might be able to change the repositories for 11.04 (Natty Narwhal) easily if you have Synaptic Package Manager. I'm glad you've been able to stay on an old version of Ubuntu that's still supported, but keep in mind any security hazards that may occur with an old release.
[06:59] <bacon> ararob: xubuntu 11.10
[07:00] <bacon> UTL: actually I constantly upgraded, but it sucked harder each time, now there are too many issues and I need to draw a line and downgrade my dad's laptop to a version that's usable
[07:01] <caseswitch> what's "the way" to get the source code instead of binaries .. something something? apt-get source instead of install?
[07:01] <UTL> bacon: Uh-oh! Did you make a backup before you started, I hope?
[07:01] <ararob> bacon: is it a new laptop? last xubuntu runs fine on my 2008 laptop.
[07:01] <ararob> *latest
[07:02] <bacon> older 1gb laptop, leonovo f41, ararob
[07:02] <squinty> caseswitch:  just type  apt-get  in terminal to see options
[07:02] <bacon> UTL: backup is irrelevant, a few files on a different partition
[07:03] <caseswitch> wait.. if I apt-get source, where is the source put?
[07:03] <bacon> laptop is having like 6 issues at least now, each release things got worse, it seems ubuntu is not very backwards compatible so to say
[07:03] <UTL> bacon: Phew! That's good. You know, if you need to, you can do a fresh install of the latest version of Ubuntu. That way, you can clear any old "leftovers" that might still be hanging around.
[07:04] <UTL> bacon: Can you list those issues?
[07:04] <bacon> UTL: leftovers never been an issue; even if a do a fresh install (which I did a while ago if I recall right), the install still sucks
[07:06] <bacon> this webchat lost some log
[07:06] <bacon> ararob: issues listed here in case you were the one asking http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2244321
[07:07] <bacon> plus it freezes on shutdown / restart
[07:07] <UTL> bacon: Sounds like it may be due to a crappy computer. I have a Sony VAIO that someone gave to me, but it was so old, slow, and buggy, it's now in my closet, and I'm using a brand new computer.
[07:07] <bacon> computer is fine, it's ubuntu that fails more and more with older hardware UTL
[07:07] <bacon> which is sad
[07:07] <ararob> bacon: how old is it?
[07:08] <ararob> latest xubuntu should do fine with a 10 year old laptop, considering mine is atleast 6 years old.
[07:09] <bacon> guess this one is about 7-8 hmm, came preinstalled with windows vista xD
[07:10] <bacon> even if using ubuntu or kubuntu, same issues; even tried lubuntu
[07:10] <bacon> it's about the kernel mainly
[07:10] <UTL> bacon: I know what you mean. It's not fair to give up old technology simply because it's old, especially if you can make good use out of it.  Technology has a "high turnover rate", so to speak. You may buy a decent laptop, and five years later have to buy another one.
[07:10] <ararob> bacon: If i had to guess, it sounds like driver issues.
[07:11] <bacon> yeah
[07:11] <ararob> either unsupported hardware or buggy drivers
[07:11] <bacon> and reporting issues constantly doesn't get s me anywhere
[07:11] <bacon> because quite a few people have the same issues and they're not fixed even after more than 1 year, so basically nobody cares
[07:12] <bacon> I feel like giving up and installing windows xp or something *sigh* but might not have drivers as well
[07:12] <lasdam> hey. I'm getting no response from #httpd and I'm about to snap so I'll ask here as well. I wanted to re-install apache default configs since I got sick and tired of trying to find the needle in the haystack with what I had. doing apt-get remove --purge apache2 and apt-get purge apache2 and then apt-get install apache2 didn't install default configs, so I removed /etc/apache2 altogether. now I can't get it back.
[07:12] <ararob> bacon: Xp might not help you either.
[07:13] <UTL> bacon: Try to find out all the statistics about your dad's laptop as possible. Maybe if you knew the kind of hardware you've got to work with, you can be better able to find a working Ubuntu version that comes closest to supporting the laptop.
[07:13] <ararob> bacon: If I were you i'd try to find out exactly which drivers they are, and what can be done. Maybe find a distro which supports it out of box.
[07:13] <lasdam> (this isn't just with apache anyway, I've had this problem many times before with other packages, trying to reinstall a program to its default state, but no configs seem to even be touched, and then they're not re-installed upon package reinstall)
[07:14] <bacon> UTL: ararob, yeah, but even if I have the specs, don't know which distros would magically work
[07:14] <ararob> well
[07:14] <bacon> UTL: did you get flash working on your old install?
[07:15] <bacon> might go for lubuntu 11.04 or so and fixing the repos manually, at least back then everything work except the webcam
[07:15] <ararob> i'd stick to ubuntu, since it's user friendly. other distros might scare your dad :)
[07:16] <bacon> and I don't really care about security updates
[07:16] <UTL> bacon: Try them all! Here are a few links to get you started: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[07:16] <bacon> dad used quite a bit of distros, ubuntu is most horrible as it changes the most and unity is crap on old hardware
[07:16] <bacon> he used quite a bit of DE's; I'm always sticking with buntus
[07:16] <Jeeves_Moss> how do I push the content of /dev/random to a serial port?  I'm trying to map out what serial port is mapped internally
[07:17] <UTL> bacon: Do you want to install Ubuntu?
[07:17] <bacon> UTL: usb stick
[07:17] <UTL> bacon: How much room on it?
[07:18] <bacon> 2gb
[07:18] <gshmu> brasero error, just because `ln` file Error: '/iso/private/var/root/Library/Preferences/com.apple.stackshot.plist' and '/iso/var/root/Library/Preferences/com.apple.stackshot.plist' have the same Rock Ridge name
[07:18] <bacon> well, gonna install old lubuntu or xubuntu, i missread
[07:19] <UTL> bacon: Saw what you said earlier about Flash, I assume you mean Adobe Flash. Yes, it did work, but not well.
[07:19] <bacon> I have a feeling trying to fix the 14.04 xubuntu install won't get me anywhere
[07:19] <bacon> (im on the laptop atm)
[07:21] <bacon> roger
[07:21] <Jeeves_Moss> anyone want to tell me how to output the /dev/random to a serial port please
[07:21] <bacon> idea is for youtube to work, but html5 vid ftw
[07:21] <bacon> anyway, thanks guys, will take a swing at it, laters
[07:22] <ararob> html5 vid works better for me
[07:22] <bacon> yeah
[07:22] <ararob> flash keeps crashing
[07:22] <MrChris> Jeeves_Moss, cat /dev/random > /dev/tty0
[07:22] <bacon> less of a memory hog
[07:22] <bacon> as well
[07:23] <UTL> bacon: Sorry I couldn't be enough help. Perhaps you could post your problems using Ubuntu Pastebin?
[07:23] <MrChris> Jeeves_Moss, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2530096
[07:23] <UTL> bacon: Then post the link here.
[07:23] <Dr_Manhattan> How do I get Ubuntu 14.04 to recognize my AMD 760G raid array - or drives in AHCI mode on the same mobo?
[07:24] <bacon> UTL: posted on forums before http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2244321
[07:24] <bacon> plus restart/shutdown freezing
[07:24] <UTL> Oh.
[07:25]  * UTL shakes his head. Here he had signed on to ask about Audacity, and instead, he's helping a fellow Ubuntu user! :-P
[07:26] <UTL> So, does anyone know how to keep Audacity from crashing?
[07:30] <UTL> !help
[07:30] <UTL> Just testing the bot.
[07:30] <Dr_Manhattan> Anyone? ahci/raid on a 760G with 14.04?
[07:31] <UTL> !audacity
[07:34] <Yufei> hi, anyone tried the VNC on Ubuntu 14.04?
[07:35] <Yufei> it seems only a terminal window on a gray window
[07:36] <linuxlite> hi hello! where can i download realtek wireless drivers for ubuntu 12.04
[07:37] <Dr_Manhattan> linux314, the realtek website has them
[07:37] <UTL> !audacity
[07:37] <Dr_Manhattan> oops linuxlite the realtek website has them
[07:38] <linuxlite> for linux? Dr_m=Manhattan?
[07:38] <Dr_Manhattan> linuxlite, yes for linux too
[07:38] <linuxlite> Thank you ill try it now!
[07:39] <jeeves_moss> how do I setup my serial port so I can sort out what port is what on the back of my pc?
[07:40] <UTL> If nobody can help me with my problem, I'll just uninstall Audacity again, but I really want to use it under Ubuntu.
[07:41] <linuxlite> Dr_Manhatan can you give me a Link?
[07:42] <UTL> !sources.list > bacon
[07:42] <Dr_Manhattan> linuxlite, http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=13&PFid=5&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false
[07:42] <jeeves_moss> UTL, bacon is natures soulition for everything
[07:42] <UTL> Just thought I'd help him out some more.
[07:43] <linuxlite> woW! thanks a lot Dr_Manhattan!
[07:43] <Dr_Manhattan> No problem :)
[07:43] <squinty> UTL:  fwiw, there is a audacity channel here on freenode  #audacity
[07:43] <UTL> Great tip! I'm joining now!
[07:45] <johnb003> for some reason the hostname of my linux pc doesn't show up in the dhcp table on my router
[07:45] <johnb003> it just shows blank
[07:45] <johnb003> but I can still resolve the hostname from a pc on the router
[07:46] <johnb003> I can't seem to resolve any hosts on the wired part of the router from the wireless part, but I can ping them
[07:50] <squinty> jeeves_moss:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/346894/reading-from-multiple-serial-ports-in-ubuntu
[07:51] <jeeves_moss> squinty, thanks!  I'm a windows guy who also dabbles with Linux servers.  But, this time, I'm diving into embedded design/engineering.  So, lots to learn
[07:53] <jeeves_moss> squinty, how do I sense what the current setting are so I can make sure that my windows box running Putty is set up to read the mess?
[07:54] <UTL> squinty: Thanks again for the tip. I found what I was looking for in the Audacity Wiki. There is a work around: http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Release_Notes_2.0.6#Effects_and_Analysis  Third line from the top.
[07:55] <squinty> UTL:  good to hear! :)
[07:59] <UTL> I've found that I had libsbsms 2.0.1-1, which makes the current Audacity buggy. I need 2.0.2-1, but it's not listed in Synaptic.
[08:00] <UTL> squinty: Where do I get the later package?
[08:01]  * UTL gasps. The guy that was helping him has left! He supposes he's on his own, now...
[08:02] <ikonia> UTL: what is the issue ?
[08:03] <UTL> ikonia: I need libsbsms 2.0.2-1, but Synaptic only lists 2.0.1-1, which it claims is the latest version.
[08:03] <ikonia> UTL: correct, that is the latest version your ubuntu version offers
[08:04] <UTL> ikonia: Audacity requires libsbsms 2.0.2-1 in order to work properly.
[08:04] <ikonia> are you sure ?
[08:05] <UTL> ikonia: Positive! This is the link I sent squinty, who was helping me at the time: http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Release_Notes_2.0.6#Effects_and_Analysis  Third line from the top.
[08:06] <UTL> I have Ubuntu 14.04 LTS.
[08:06] <ikonia> UTL: ok - so I suggest you log a bug to ubuntu to have (potentially) the build options of Audacity changed, or the 14.10 package back ported to 14.04
[08:07] <ikonia> UTL: I assume you are using sliding time scale or pitch shift features ?
[08:08] <UTL> ikonia: Yes, and there are other problems that I think this package can fix, as well - if only I can get my hands on it!
[08:09] <ikonia> UTL: I suggest you log a bug to ubuntu to have either the build options changed or the 14.10 package back ported
[08:10] <UTL> ikonia: Would that be a pre-release update?
[08:11] <iamnoob> hi is there any one who tried ubuntu touch?
[08:11] <ObrienDave> UTL, ummm, no.... 2.0.1 is required http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/audacity
[08:11] <ikonia> UTL: detail this URL in the bug report and also a summary of the issues (as well as the bug details required)
[08:11] <ikonia> UTL: no, not pre-release
[08:13] <UTL> ObrienDave, ikonia: 2.0.1 may be required for Audacity for Ubuntu 14.04, but it does not work well. I'm going to change the sources to include what I want.
[08:14] <ikonia> UTL: do not change the sources
[08:14] <ikonia> UTL: log the bug
[08:14] <UTL> ikonia: I do not have a LaunchPad account.
[08:14] <ikonia> UTL: create one
[08:16] <UTL> ikonia: I also do not have a proper email address. All the ones I have send me ads, and I would not feel right using one of those accounts. I'd rather wait until I have a more secure email address to use in LaunchPad. Sorry for the inconvenience.
[08:17] <rww> iamnoob: yep, plenty of them in #ubuntu-touch (though it's quiet this time of day)
[08:17] <ikonia> UTL: you can use any email address you want
[08:18] <ObrienDave> also, if/when you bork/break your system/packages, please don't complain here
[08:18] <ObrienDave> ^ by changing sources
[08:20] <UTL> ObrienDave: I won't, but don't be surprised if I make it work! I can perform miracles!
[08:20] <ObrienDave> glwt
[08:20] <UTL> :-D
[08:22] <blueingress> Hi, How can I connect to iscsi devices?
[08:40] <Guest51346> Hello
[08:43] <caseswitch> shortcut for clearing bash row?
[08:45] <Luyin> caseswitch: ctrl + u ?
[08:46] <caseswitch> thanks :). Luyin: it just clears the row, right? Nothing else?
[08:47] <Luyin> caseswitch: as far as I know
[08:47] <Luyin> just found it out
[08:47] <Luyin> :D
[08:47] <caseswitch> I mean, it could copy it or something (like in nano: ctrl+k "cuts" the row)
[08:49] <Luyin> caseswitch: would that be a problem? the row is empty and the code isn't executed. so what else do you need?
[08:50] <caseswitch> Luyin: details matters. Don't know when. But when they do, I'll know them.
[08:50] <Luyin> well then I hope ctrl + u does what you need. good luck ;)
[08:51] <UTL> Whoa! I don't know if I fixed the problem or not, but I set the Playback/Recording device drivers to "sysdefault" in Audacity, and it seems to be working fine, right now. I didn't have to change the sources or report bugs, after all! :-)
[08:51] <ikonia> UTL: thats what the bug page you showed us said to do
[08:52] <ikonia> although it was suggested it was a build option, rather than a parameter
[08:54] <Mayer> hi
[08:56] <Mattias> Just wondering, has anyone else noticed the screen, when using ubuntu, turns off and on rarely each day? I notice this at work, and I've been wondering why it happens at home too when ubuntu is running. Running Ubuntu 14.04 at work, I believe I run 14.10 at home but not sure, might be 14.04 there too.
[08:57] <UTL> ikonia: True, but I thought that I had to modify the Audacity script, which would have been a pain in the neck. Sorry for all that I put you through.
[08:57] <ikonia> it's no problem, no pain this end
[08:59] <UTL> ikonia: I'm a very secure person, more than most people, which is why I said what I said about my email. I don't want to take any chances that might compromise my security... Well, not too many, anyway.
[08:59] <ikonia> UTL: I have no idea why you think signing up for launchpad will compromise your security,
[08:59] <eXistenZNL> secure about what?
[08:59] <UTL> ikonia: Maybe I should read their terms.
[09:00] <ikonia> UTL: and to be honest, you don't strike me as secure, as you're willing to blindly mix repos
[09:00] <ikonia> that seems the opposite of secure, but it's up to you what you do
[09:00] <UTL> ikonia: Point taken. I'll keep that in mind.
[09:02] <UTL> ikonia: At least I don't put all my trust at the feet of Bill Gates. Most of my private data is under Ubuntu. :-)
[09:02] <ikonia> UTL: no idea why you are stating anything about bill gates, that just seems a pointless blind statement
[09:02] <Aikilox> hi guys. Can you tell me why I can not install ubuntu 14.04 64 bit on my new computer? 32 bit version installs ok
[09:02] <UTL> Sorry.
[09:02] <ikonia> Aikilox: what's the problem ?
[09:03] <anonymous_> hello everyone
[09:04] <anonymous_> how to make a bundle file to deb file. any one know ?
[09:04] <ikonia> a bundle file ?
[09:05] <anonymous_> i mean
[09:05] <anonymous_> a bundle package
[09:05] <ikonia> what's a bundle package ?
[09:05] <cfhowlett> anonymous_, ???
[09:05] <anonymous_> like vmware
[09:05] <anonymous_> when i download it it gives me a bundle in ubuntu
[09:05] <ikonia> Aikilox: what are you trying to install ?
[09:06] <ikonia> Aikilox: sorry, not you
[09:06] <anonymous_> i have to write command in the terminal
[09:06] <ikonia> anonymous_: what are you trying to instal
[09:06] <ikonia> install
[09:06] <anonymous_> but i dont want to
[09:06] <cfhowlett> anonymous_, are you referring to .deb package?
[09:06] <anonymous_> yea
[09:06] <anonymous_> yah
[09:07] <ikonia> anonymous_: what are you trying to install
[09:07] <anonymous_> i am now trying to install webstorm
[09:07] <anonymous_> i downloaded it from torrent
[09:07] <anonymous_> with a keygan
[09:08] <anonymous_> now i can't install it by writing command
[09:08] <david776> what is this chat all about?? kinda help or something?
[09:08] <ikonia> anonymous_: this ? https://www.jetbrains.com/webstorm/
[09:08] <anonymous_> yah
[09:08] <cfhowlett> david776, yes.  please read the topic
[09:08] <ikonia> anonymous_: ok, so that is going to be a reasonably complex thing to pacakge
[09:09] <anonymous_> ikonia: can help me ?
[09:09] <Aikilox> ikonia, I am trying to install Ubuntu 14.04 LTS 64 bit
[09:09] <ikonia> anonymous_: it's not something I'd suggest doing as your first attempt
[09:09] <ikonia> Aikilox: whats the problem ?
[09:09] <cfhowlett> anonymous_, it's a proprietary product not created/maintained/supported by ubuntu.  read the web page
[09:09] <ikonia> anonymous_: I'd suggest using their installer at this state
[09:09] <anonymous_> hmm
[09:09] <DJones> anonymous_: You should probably contact webstorms own support people
[09:09] <anonymous_> now how can i use this with serial key...it't give me a trial version for 30 days
[09:10] <david776> I have recently downloaded Ub 14.04 LTS and wondering what could be the best App for movie making. Any guessssss
[09:10] <ikonia> anonymous_ that is a trail key
[09:10] <ikonia> anonymous_: you need to buy the serial
[09:10] <DJones> anonymous_: You'll need to buy a serial from the developer
[09:10] <anonymous_> yah that's right
[09:10] <anonymous_> ikonia: thanks
[09:10] <cfhowlett> david776, "best" is subjective.  YMMV.  look in the software center.
[09:10] <anonymous_> ikonia: where do you live in ?
[09:10] <ikonia> anonymous_: doesn't matter where I live
[09:11] <david776> cfhowlett: alright. let me try that/
[09:11] <anonymous_> ikonia: that's fine. just want to know .
[09:11] <anonymous_> if you don't want to , it's ok
[09:11] <cfhowlett> anonymous_, so you did NOT get this from the source but from a .torrent?  so ... you want to crack it.  Yeah, we don't do that.
[09:12] <anonymous_> ikonia: i just install xchat and join here
[09:12] <ikonia> great
[09:12] <anonymous_> what kind of help i will get from here ?
[09:12] <ikonia> ubuntu help
[09:12] <anonymous_> ok that's greate
[09:13] <anonymous_> great
[09:13] <anonymous_> ikonia: can i ask one more question ?
[09:14] <ikonia> anonymous_: anything to do with ubuntu, sure thing
[09:14] <anonymous_> thanks, how can make all of my packages like my installed software .deb file
[09:14] <anonymous_> so that i can install it again using gdebi
[09:15] <ikonia> anonymous_: that is a complex process, the webstorm software is not something I'd suggest doing as a first try
[09:15] <ikonia> it's quite complex
[09:15] <anonymous_> how about backup .
[09:15] <ikonia> what about a backup
[09:15] <anonymous_> ubuntu backup
[09:16] <ikonia> anonymous_: what do you want to backup
[09:16] <anonymous_> there is a option in system setting . called backup
[09:16] <ikonia> yes,
[09:16] <anonymous_> i want know about backup
[09:16] <anonymous_> how to backup and how to restore
[09:16] <ikonia> anonymous_: what do you want to know ?
[09:16] <ObrienDave> man backup
[09:16] <anonymous_> if i change my ubuntu version
[09:16] <ikonia> anonymous_: so it depends what data you want to backup
[09:16] <ikonia> anonymous_: if you change your version you have to be careful about what data you restore
[09:17] <anonymous_> yah
[09:17] <ikonia> anonymous_: so what do you want to know, whats the actual question ?
[09:17] <anonymous_> my qustion is
[09:17] <anonymous_> suppose i installed skype
[09:17] <anonymous_> now i deleted the .deb file
[09:18] <anonymous_> so how can make my installed file to .deb file
[09:18] <ikonia> ok, you'd need to re-download that
[09:18] <anonymous_> ohh
[09:18] <ikonia> you get that from skype, or the ubuntu partner repo
[09:18] <anonymous_> yah
[09:18] <anonymous_> got it
[09:18] <ikonia> great
[09:19] <anonymous_> are you a ubuntu user or ubuntu support team member ?
[09:19] <ObrienDave> both
[09:19] <anonymous_> what about you ikonia ?
[09:20] <ikonia> I'm nothing to do with ubuntu
[09:20] <ObrienDave> omg
[09:20] <anonymous_> are you a ubuntu user or ubuntu support team member ?
[09:20] <ikonia> just offering you some help
[09:20] <anonymous_> ohh that's sound like a friend
[09:20] <anonymous_> thanks again
[09:20] <ikonia> no problem
[09:25] <anonymous_> ikonia: are you there?
[09:25] <ikonia> yes ?
[09:26] <anonymous_> can you tell me how to run a software from terminal?
[09:26] <anonymous_> like i want run google chrome
[09:26] <anonymous_> what will be the command?
[09:27] <anonymous_> and also want to know how to uninstall a software using command
[09:27] <k1l> anonymous_: which desktop do you use there?
[09:27] <qis> Hi!
[09:27] <anonymous_> ikonia : are you there ?
[09:28] <qis> Is it reasonable to use the ubuntu server image for a workstation template to prevent the installation of ubuntu-specific GUI applications and services that are not required? (e.g. unity)
[09:28] <ikonia> anonymous_: you shouldn't really need to run it from the terminal
[09:28] <ikonia> anonymous_: launch it from the launcher
[09:28] <k1l> anonymous_: its not about a single person. ask a question and people in here try to help
[09:28] <anonymous_> i use unity @kLl
[09:28] <ikonia> anonymous_: read https://help.ubuntu.com and it will give you an introduction to how to use the desktop
[09:28] <anonymous_> sorry i can't get your name :D
[09:29] <k1l> anonymous_: so press "windowsbutton + a" and type chrome. then press enter or click on the chrome icon
[09:29] <anonymous_> yes i know. but is it possible from terminal?
[09:29] <ikonia> anonymous_: yes it is possible, but you shouldn't need to do it/do it
[09:29] <anonymous_> ok fine
[09:30] <anonymous_> i want to learn linux command. how can learn easily ?
[09:30] <cfhowlett> anonymous_, easily?  No.  you actually have to read and study.  too much work for most people.
[09:31] <ikonia> anonymous_: no easy path, just experience and research
[09:31] <anonymous_> hmm. can suggest me any book or website to start study about it
[09:31] <qis> anonymous_: Don't listen to people who say not to use the terminal.
[09:32] <cfhowlett> anonymous_, "the linux command line"   free book download.
[09:32] <qis> anonymous_: You learn more from using command line tools and can fix your OS even when the GUI part is broken.
[09:32] <anonymous_> qis: i want to use terminal for work almost everything, that's why i choose this.
[09:32] <k1l> qis: at that state that is totally overshooting
[09:33] <anonymous_> cfhowlett: thanks
[09:33] <cfhowlett> anonymous_, you should install ubuntu-server ... no gui.  command line only.  you'll learn very quickly
[09:33] <qis> k1l: If he was not interested - yes. If he's already interested in learning, then we shouldn't stop him.
[09:33] <k1l> anonymous_: start using ubuntu. if you get comfortable you can look what is behind
[09:33] <anonymous_> hmm
[09:34] <anonymous_> hay friends don't go to argument
[09:34] <anonymous_> so i am downloading linux command line book
[09:35] <anonymous_> i join here to get help from experts like you
[09:35] <ikonia> anonymous_: we will help you with anything ubuntu related
[09:35] <anonymous_> ikonia: that's sounds great.
[09:37] <anonymous_> let me tell you something , that i am from non english country. so forgive me for my poor english
[09:37] <ej> how can i perge  everything but lubuntu xfce..?
[09:37] <cfhowlett> anonymous_, what is your first language?  perhaps find local help for you
[09:38] <anonymous_> bangali
[09:38] <ikonia> anonymous_: your english is fine, so don't worry about that
[09:38] <anonymous_> ikonia : thanks
[09:38] <anonymous_> so let
[09:39] <cfhowlett> anonymous_, https://ubuntuwestbengal.wordpress.com/
[09:39] <anonymous_> so let's learn some command. thanks all you guys
[09:39] <ej> i dont need to keep my home on a diffrent partion do i?
[09:40] <ikonia> ej: don't need to no,
[09:40] <ikonia> it can be a good option for some people
[09:40] <ikonia> but it's your choice
[09:40] <cfhowlett> ej, no. it solves certain problems, but you can do without if you choose.
[09:40] <ej> why did they recomend that for my comp..
[09:40] <ej> ill change..
[09:40] <cfhowlett> ej, as I said, solves some problems, but not required.
[09:40] <ikonia> ej: it can be useful
[09:41] <ej> i only have 768 mem..1000gb hd..
[09:41] <ej> runnning lubuntu over ubuntu ..
[09:41] <anonymous_> is there any antivirus for ubuntu. that can clean my drives
[09:41] <cfhowlett> ej, "only" 1 TB ... you are sooooooo deprived.
[09:42] <cfhowlett> !antivirus | anonymous_
[09:42] <ej> lol...im sry..
[09:42] <ej> im learning
[09:43] <anonymous_> yah. if send file to pendrive and if try to open in windows it's show that there is viruses
[09:43] <ej> great o.s i love lubuntu.. but i over loaded packages.
[09:43] <anonymous_> that's why i want to use antivirus to clean my drives.
[09:43] <hateball> !info clamav
[09:44] <ej> whats the open source anti virus one?
[09:44] <ej> whats the name?
[09:44] <ej> ohh i see..
[09:45] <anonymous_> cfhowlett: i know virus can't active themselves i linux . but they can stay in my drives. am i write?
[09:45] <White_Cat> what would be a free/open source mail server for ubuntu?
[09:45] <johncarper> hello i accidently deleted the top and bot panel, how can i restore them,
[09:45] <agent_white> cfhowlett: Looks like they need to update that page... librenix.com is down (either for now or has been)
[09:46] <cfhowlett> anonymous_, 1.  there ARE active linux viri ... rare though.  2. viri can live on your drives.  3.  more likely you'll see viri from windows/osx than from linux.
[09:46] <ej> so how can a delete everthing but xfce lubuntu
[09:46] <anonymous_> yes
[09:46] <cfhowlett> agent_white, yeah, it's about time.
[09:46] <agent_white> (speaking of the Ubuntu antivirus page linking to an explanation of how linux is hard to get a virus)
[09:47] <anonymous_> is linux support ntfs file system drive
[09:47] <cfhowlett> ej, delete your install partition, reinstall lubuntu, then install xfce4
[09:47] <cfhowlett> anonymous_, not natively.
[09:47] <cfhowlett> !ntfs | anonymous_
[09:48] <agent_white> anonymous_: More importantly instead of seeking antivirus, you should look into how to properly configure iptables.
[09:48] <ej> would it be "purge" lubuntu
[09:49] <anonymous_> in windows i saw that if a file is large, like a ISO and it's size is bigger then 6GB. then fat32 filesystem can't get it. or windows can't send it to that pendrive
[09:49] <ej> or should i just dl  a new iso
[09:49] <ikonia> anonymous_: linux file systems can deal with that just fine
[09:49] <anonymous_> ohh that good.
[09:49] <anonymous_> agent_white: how can learn that ?
[09:50] <agent_white> anonymous_: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-a-firewall-using-iptables-on-ubuntu-14-04
[09:50] <agent_white> anonymous_: That is a good introduction
[09:50] <ikonia> anonymous_: step back, I think you are running too fast
[09:50] <samgoody> Ehlo all. I have a service (Wowza) running on Ubuntu server.
[09:50] <ikonia> anonymous_: take some time and just use your desktop, https://help.ubuntu.com will help you with the basics
[09:50] <ikonia> anonymous_: once you can use your desktop on a normal basis you can start doing more advanced things
[09:50] <samgoody> It came with scripts to symlink into /etc/init.d and /etc/rc2.d/, and which allow me to run sudo service wowza status, and which make it start at boot.
[09:51] <anonymous_> ikonia: hmm
[09:51] <samgoody> Since upgrading to trusty, the "service" command still works, but it now longer starts on boot.
[09:51] <samgoody> After googling and asking on Linode, I gather that Ubuntu now uses Startup, and that /etc/init.d is no longer the place to be.
[09:51] <agent_white> anonymous_: Before looking at my article I posted, listen to ikonia.
[09:51] <ikonia> samgoody: it uses upstart
[09:51] <anonymous_> but is it very advance thing to learn about iptables
[09:51] <ikonia> anonymous_: it's reasonably advanced
[09:51] <agent_white> anonymous_: Kinda-sorta.
[09:51] <cfhowlett> anonymous_, www.fullcirclemagazine.org         download issue #0.  read.  front to back, every page.  THEN get #1.  repeat.  I guarantee by the time you get to Issue #92, you'll have forgotten more than most linux users ever know.
[09:51] <samgoody> Oops, I meant upstart. But I need help figuring out what to do and how to get it it to boot on startup again.
[09:51] <agent_white> As ikonia said, get familiar with your environment first.
[09:52] <anonymous_> hmm i understand
[09:53] <anonymous_> agent_white: do you know about .net going to open source
[09:54] <agent_white> anonymous_: Yes but that's it. I know nothing of C# or .NET
[09:54] <anonymous_> ohh
[09:54] <anonymous_> it's ok
[09:55] <samgoody> So, if I symlink the file in /etc/init.d into /etc/init
[09:55] <anonymous_> agent_white : i want to install vmware . and also want to get it as a .deb file. how can i get it like that
[09:55] <samgoody> Will that break anything? Will that work? Am I totally off base? Does Ubuntu no longer support start-on-boot for less than the most sophisticated users?
[09:56] <ikonia> anonymous_: you can't
[09:56] <EriC^^> samgoody: try update-rc.d -f <program> disable
[09:56] <EriC^^> samgoody: i mean enable
[09:56] <ikonia> anonymous_: again, slowly, get to grips with the basics first
[09:57] <ej> were are the the system error logs..i f any..??
[09:58] <ej> i see auth/skpg/xorg
[09:58] <anonymous_> every time i log in to the ubuntu it's shows some update. so if i don't update that packages, what will happen
[09:58] <anonymous_> my system will do some thing unexpected ?
[09:58] <samgoody> That looks fantastic
[09:58] <samgoody> Am rebooting to test
[09:59] <EriC^^> ok
[09:59] <cfhowlett> anonymous_, updates are generally good things, especially security updates.  ignoring them is your choice.
[10:00] <samgoody> Now, for the next question. I have a different service, openfire. It has a startup script call openfire.sh, that I run to make the thing go.
[10:00] <samgoody> They suggest symlinking that startup script into /etc/init.d in order to be able to use "$ sudo service openfire start"
[10:00] <White_Cat> what would be a free/open source mail server for ubuntu? rather than googling aimlessly I would prefer starting off with a reccomendation or two :)
[10:01] <jatt> postfix
[10:01] <samgoody> But for some reason, service still claims "unrecognized service", even after rebooting
[10:01] <cfhowlett> !server | White_Cat, might ask the other channel for server stuff
[10:01] <anonymous_> ok
[10:02] <White_Cat> cfhowlett I normally do but this was a more simple thing :)
[10:02] <cfhowlett> White_Cat, fair enough!
[10:02] <ej> how can i take xfce and lubuntu my apts.. and write to a drive..
[10:02] <cfhowlett> ej, "apts"?
[10:03] <ej> programs
[10:03] <ej> install packages..
[10:03] <ej> bear with me..plz
[10:03] <samgoody> So, how do I register something as a service on Ubuntu?
[10:03] <ej> i either need to perge or sl a new .iso
[10:04] <ej> dl*
[10:04] <cfhowlett> ej, download one or the other: xubuntu or lubuntu .iso.  make a usb.  boot USB and install.  reboot computer.  install other Desktop Environment.
[10:05] <ej> i cant boot to usb.. sdmin bios is flashed
[10:05] <ej> admin*
[10:06] <cfhowlett> ej download and store .iso on your HDD.  you can boot it from there with a bit of work
[10:06] <ej> and i broke the cmos battery termanils removing it...
[10:06] <cfhowlett> !install | ej
[10:06] <ej> but i have a good thing going right now just to much stuff..
[10:07] <hashx_> how to install ubuntu inside windows 7?
[10:07] <cfhowlett> hashx_, you don't.  NEXT to windows 7
[10:07] <ej> i geeked out and download debian,gnome,kfce,kde, all packages
[10:07] <Seveas> samgoody: write an upstart snippet or initscript.
[10:07] <ej> just want lubuntu xfce and thats it.
[10:08] <ej> ubuntu over xubuntu over gnome over kde
[10:08] <ekarlso-> hi, what's the latest kernel available on trusty ?
[10:08] <hashx_> wasn't it possible on previous versions of ubuntu?
[10:08] <hateball> !purexfce
[10:08] <hateball> ej: ^
[10:09] <jadesoturi> hi all.. im in a process of purchasing a new server, and HP recommends me to purchase a HP smart cache system, witch caches the most accessed files from the RAID array to the OS SSD,, but im wondering if there maybe is a free utility that could do that instead? the server will be running a raid6 array with 2 120gb ssds in raid 1 as OS drives..
[10:09] <jatt> ekarlso-: unofficially you can install up to 3.18 on trusty
[10:09] <ej> ubotto: ty
[10:09] <ej> all: ty
[10:09] <ej> purexfce i like!
[10:09] <jadesoturi> iv read that i can setup LVM with 1 volume group that has both the raid array lv and the ssd lv in it, but will it give me the same performance as if i was using hp smartcache?
[10:09] <ekarlso-> jatt: any backports or so that works or is it the mainline thing u mean ?
[10:10] <ej> cool.. good day.
[10:10] <lotuspsychje> jadesoturi: wich brand of ssd will you choose?
[10:10] <jatt> yes this ones: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[10:10] <jatt> but only use if absolutely required (for example if you are sure they fix some bug you are being hit)
[10:11] <jatt> not sure which version the official repos support I think is 3.13
[10:11] <jadesoturi> HP 120GB 6G SATA Value Endurance SFF 2.5-in SC Enterprise Value 3
[10:11] <jadesoturi> is the drives im getting..
[10:11] <jadesoturi> its a rack server proliant dl380p gen 8 25sff chassie
[10:11] <jadesoturi> not sure who makes the ssds there..
[10:12] <jadesoturi> gonna run ubuntu 14.04 on it, no vmware.. will be hosting a php/mysql webapp...
[10:12] <ej> ohh.. also any reason i cant install xbuntu after dl. and burn but ubuntu will install ive tryed three diff. .xubunt.iso's
[10:12] <lotuspsychje> jadesoturi: performance is also based on the brand of ssd's you buy, for what i hear samsung evo 850 are the best, and almost unbrakeable
[10:12] <ikonia> jadesoturi: are you sure it's not the hardware raid smart cache controller
[10:12] <ikonia> that has the battery backup ?
[10:12] <ikonia> or is it actually the SSD caching bays
[10:13] <jatt> ej: if you install ubuntu, to trim it down to use xfce is a pain in the neck. so better install xubuntu from the start
[10:13] <jadesoturi> ikonia, not sure.. from what i understand, the raid will be done by hardware raid..
[10:13] <k1l> ej: check md5sums
[10:13] <ikonia> jadesoturi: right, which is why I'm asking
[10:13] <cfhowlett> ej, OR you could install virtualbox and test all the .iso's you want without reinstalling your main system ...
[10:13] <ej> jatt: three diff. xubuntu.iso ive tryed wont install but one trusty tar willl
[10:13] <k1l> ej: there shouldnt be a difference in the installer from ubuntu and xubuntu
[10:14] <jadesoturi> ok.. does it matter much? from waht i understand hardware raid is better if the raid controller is a good one.. (witch this is supposted to be)..
[10:15] <ej> okk. .. its settled..
[10:15] <ej> thanks... again.
[10:15] <lotuspsychje> jadesoturi: you can ask this to the ##hardware guys aswell
[10:15] <lotuspsychje> jadesoturi: or #ubuntu-server
[10:15] <jadesoturi> ok. thanks ill check it out:)
[10:15] <ej> lotus.. :-)
[10:17] <ej> u guys have been alot of help.. its seem s like i get a info run around on the web.. mabey just me.
[10:23] <ej> wait xfce is not lubuntu? lxkce?
[10:23] <ikonia> luubntu is lxde
[10:23] <ikonia> xubuntu is xfce
[10:24] <cfhowlett> !flavors | ej,
[10:24] <ej> dang ..
[10:24] <ej> got it sir..
[10:24] <ej> ty..
[10:25] <cfhowlett> ej, not to worry.  it can be confusing.
[10:25] <ej> loving the o.s options..man its suberb..
[10:26] <cfhowlett> ej, www.fullcircle.magazine       free goodies
[10:26] <ej> ubttois a bot?
[10:26] <ej> cfhowlett: will do.
[10:26] <ej> ubittu*
[10:27] <ej> damn it ubottu*
[10:27] <ej> sry.. im beat.. later ..yall
[10:27] <ej> thanks much.
[10:29] <ej>  !purexfce event not found..
[10:29] <ej> u r a bot..??/
[10:29] <ej> really?
[10:31] <ej> wow..
[10:31] <ej> !pure xfce event not found
[10:31] <ej> k..
[10:31] <EriC^^> ej: there's no command !pure...
[10:32] <EriC^^> ej: did you see the psychocats site?
[10:32] <ej> eric: ty got sidetracked
[10:32] <cfhowlett> ej, for that matter, there is no !pure xfce ... !purexubuntu
[10:32] <ej> what did u mean?
[10:33] <ej> thean.. just exspersion?
[10:33] <cfhowlett> *or not*
[10:33] <EriC^^> ! searches the command history
[10:33] <ej> lol..
[10:33] <papa__> hola a tod@s
[10:34] <EriC^^> :D
[10:34] <ej> cfhowlett: what did u mean by !purexfce?
[10:34] <ej> exspersion?
[10:34] <ej> grrr..
[10:35] <cfhowlett> ej, you gave a !pure xfce command.  no such thing
 !pure xfce event not found
[10:36] <ej> u said !purexfce
[10:37] <k1l> ej: that is a command for this channel, not the terminal
[10:37] <ej> ohh duh.. shoot im sry..
[10:37] <ej> i get it..
[10:37] <k1l> !purexfce | ej read the bots message
[10:38] <ej> im  having proxy issues
[10:38] <ej> xchat is all thats runnning
[10:39] <ej> i did my iptables wrong i guess.
[10:40] <ej> will do ubottu ..ty
[10:46] <ej> what can i use so i dont have to type my sudo passwd all the time?
[10:46] <lotuspsychje> !sudo | ej
[10:46] <daviiiddddddd> hi
[10:47] <daviiiddddddd> someone can helpme?
[10:47] <lotuspsychje> daviiiddddddd: if you ask your question maybe
[10:47] <daviiiddddddd> hola alguien puede ayudarme??
[10:47] <daviiiddddddd> ok thnks
[10:47] <k1l> !es | daviiiddddddd
[10:47] <daviiiddddddd> ive installed a virtual net on viartual box
[10:47] <daviiiddddddd> with 3 machines
[10:48] <ej> no is there a password bot i can use im always typing a passwd
[10:48] <daviiiddddddd> ive to install dhcp in order to give a new ip to a one machine
[10:48] <lotuspsychje> ej: thats not recommended to auto fill password
[10:49] <daviiiddddddd> i've configured wrong my dhcp service
[10:49] <daviiiddddddd> & i removed /etc/dhcp
[10:49] <antonio__> hola
[10:49] <daviiiddddddd> but now im trying to reinstall dhcp service
[10:49] <lotuspsychje> ej: if someone remote controls your machine, he could execute sudo
[10:49] <daviiiddddddd> but not create automatically /etc/dhcp/.. path
[10:49] <daviiiddddddd> what can i do?
[10:50] <ej> ok..
[10:50] <ej> ty..
[10:50] <ej> om sure ive been.. left open.. with my "sudo" down.
[10:50] <daviiiddddddd> hello??
[10:50] <daviiiddddddd> someone can helpme???
[10:51] <lotuspsychje> !patience | daviiiddddddd
[10:51] <daviiiddddddd> ok
[10:51] <daviiiddddddd> srry
[10:51] <daviiiddddddd> xd
[10:51] <lotuspsychje> !dhcp | daviiiddddddd
[10:52] <ej> ohh..im not supposed to install tor inside my file system?
[10:52] <ej> is  that why my internet is screwwy
[10:53] <DFeniks> Kwin Window manager Desktop effects were restarted due to a graphics reset
[10:53] <DFeniks> i get this error at least few times per day
[10:54] <daviiiddddddd> but i can't reinstall DHCP server again?
[10:54] <daviiiddddddd> ubottu
[10:55] <k1l> !tor | ej
[10:55] <rriemann> I try to configure my ubuntu server postfix to relay mails to mandrill. I have some timeout issues, where should I ask?
[10:56] <daviiiddddddd> none can helpme a little more detaily?
[10:56] <k1l> ej: read that instructions carefully and work them step by step
[10:56] <daviiiddddddd> :(
[10:56] <ikonia> daviiiddddddd: what's actually the problem ?
[10:56] <daviiiddddddd> can i open a chat with u?
[10:56] <daviiiddddddd> ikonia
[10:57] <ikonia> daviiiddddddd: just speak in the channel
[10:57] <ej> !tor
[10:57] <daviiiddddddd> i removed /etc/dhcp path
[10:57] <ej> ty..all
[10:57] <daviiiddddddd> & i h've to configure dhcp-conf
[10:57] <ikonia> ok,
[10:58] <daviiiddddddd> i tried to reinstall "apt-get install isc-dhcp-server" but doesnt create the path again
[10:58] <ikonia> if you re-install whatever dhcp client/server you where using it will work
[10:58] <ikonia> you need to do a total re-install
[10:58] <ikonia> (of the software you removeD)
[10:58] <daviiiddddddd> and..
[10:58] <daviiiddddddd> how i can do it?
[10:58] <daviiiddddddd> exists the command reinstall?
[10:59] <daviiiddddddd> jhahah
[10:59] <daviiiddddddd> i've removed /etc/init.d/dhcp and /etc/dhcp/
[10:59] <daviiiddddddd> everything about dhcp i've find
[11:00] <daviiiddddddd> ikonia
[11:02] <ikonia> daviiiddddddd: apt-get reinstall
[11:03] <daviiiddddddd> apt-get --reinstall isc-dhcp-server doesn't works
[11:04] <daviiiddddddd> isc-dhcp-server invalid operation
[11:04] <daviiiddddddd> :(
[11:05] <ikonia> not --reinstall
[11:05] <ikonia> man apt-get
[11:05] <EriC^^> daviiiddddddd: sudo apt-get install --reinstall isc....
[11:06] <daviiiddddddd> gracias EriC^
[11:06] <daviiiddddddd> hablas castellano?
[11:06] <daviiiddddddd> i've reinstalled but /etc/dhcp is empty!!!
[11:07] <daviiiddddddd> whre r my dhclient or dchp.conf???
[11:07] <daviiiddddddd> bfff :(
[11:08] <daviiiddddddd> i've reinstalled but /etc/dhcp is empty!!!
[11:08] <daviiiddddddd> whre r my dhclient or dchp.conf???
[11:08] <daviiiddddddd> :(
[11:10] <user> !iptables
[11:12] <daviiiddddddd> i've reinstalled but /etc/dhcp is empty!!!
[11:12] <daviiiddddddd> whre r my dhclient or dchp.conf???
[11:12] <daviiiddddddd> i dont understand nothing!!!!!! :(
[11:12] <daviiiddddddd> if i reinstall dhcp-server, it have to create that documents no??
[11:13] <daviiiddddddd> cause i dont create it never
[11:14] <jatt> daviiiddddddd: on my machine the /etc/dhcp/dhcp.conf comes from the following package:
[11:14] <jatt> dpkg -S /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf
[11:14] <jatt> isc-dhcp-client: /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf
[11:18] <daviiiddddddd> /etc/dhcp keep beiing empty
[11:18] <daviiiddddddd> bufff
[11:18] <daviiiddddddd> why doesnt create automatically dhcp.conf????
[11:19] <daviiiddddddd> i've to customizate it!!
[11:20] <k1l> do you run a dhcp server in that network at all?
[11:21] <k1l> try dpkg with reconfigure the package the dhcp server was in
[11:21] <daviiiddddddd> not yet! but the first time when i installed dhcp-server, automathically creates that documents
[11:21] <daviiiddddddd> :S
[11:21] <MrSavage> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2256997
[11:21] <MrSavage> This is my strife
[11:22] <daviiiddddddd> & how i reconfigure a package?
[11:23] <daviiiddddddd> i've just dpkged dhclient but it not there (/etc/dhcp)either
[11:23] <daviiiddddddd> that folder keeps absolutely empty
[11:24] <MrSavage> daviiiddddddd: dpkg-reconfigure dhclient
[11:24] <daviiiddddddd> i dont understand that bullshit!!!
[11:24] <daviiiddddddd> thx MrSavage
[11:24] <MrSavage> daviiiddddddd: also watch the language
[11:24] <MrSavage> people will ban you because of herp derp rules
[11:25] <skirolko> Hey guys, looking into installing a good supported, stable distro on my laptop. It now boils down to debian 7 and ubuntu 14.04. Which would you say are ubuntus pros against debian 7?
[11:25] <daviiiddddddd> sry :(
[11:25] <MrSavage> skirolko: I'm just a newbie but the unity DE grew on me, however the file manager is horrible.
[11:26] <cfhowlett> !ot | skirolko, please.
[11:26] <MrSavage> skirolko: And I want to say that ubuntu may be more supported in drivers
[11:26] <daviiiddddddd> ..nothing
[11:26] <daviiiddddddd> i'll resign :(
[11:27] <MrSavage> daviiiddddddd: what are you trying to do?
[11:27] <daviiiddddddd> i'm trying to restore /etc/dhcp/ documents
[11:27] <daviiiddddddd> in order to configure dhcp.conf
[11:27] <daviiiddddddd> but that folder is empty!
[11:27] <skirolko> Thanks, switched to the OT channel.
[11:28] <daviiiddddddd> i've reinstalled isc-dhcp-server but the folder keeps absolutely mpty
[11:29] <jatt> you don't need dhcp server to configure dhcp.conf
[11:29] <jatt> you need a dchp client
[11:29] <daviiiddddddd> what?
[11:29] <jatt> what i said
[11:29] <daviiiddddddd> jajaja
[11:29] <daviiiddddddd> wait wait
[11:30] <daviiiddddddd> i need to configure dhcp.conf to custmize the paramethers net connection
[11:30] <daviiiddddddd> no?
[11:30] <jatt> nope
[11:30] <daviiiddddddd> some machine needs to follow that paramethers
[11:30] <daviiiddddddd> i'm following some tutorials and everyone saids the same
[11:30] <daviiiddddddd> hahah
[11:31] <daviiiddddddd> http://syconet.wordpress.com/2013/03/19/instalacion-y-configuracion-de-un-servidor-dhcp-en-debian-6-squeeze/
[11:31] <daviiiddddddd> like this
[11:32] <cfhowlett> daviiiddddddd, debian ain't ubuntu.  perhaps you should visit #ubuntu-server
[11:32] <daviiiddddddd> but the commands are the same no?
[11:32] <cfhowlett> !server | david464
[11:32] <daviiiddddddd> are linux kernel both
[11:33] <cfhowlett> daviiiddddddd, and a VW is the same as a jet; both are modes of transportation ...
[11:33] <jatt> in that case you need a dhcp server, and installing one of the server packages listed in
[11:33] <jatt> apt-cache search dhcpd
[11:33] <jatt> should be required
[11:34] <daviiiddddddd> ok
[11:34] <daviiiddddddd> thnks
[11:34] <daviiiddddddd> im trying to do it
[11:35] <daviiiddddddd> keeps empty
[11:35] <daviiiddddddd> i dont understand it
[11:37] <jatt> you can use apt-file to check if a package contains a given file, for example:
[11:37] <jatt> $ apt-file list isc-dhcp-server | grep dhcpd.conf
[11:37] <jatt> isc-dhcp-server: /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf
[11:37] <jatt> if you have your server installed but still no configuration file, you can try to reconfigure the package
[11:37] <jatt> dpkg --reconfigure <package>
[11:39] <someone235> When I try to install git, I get this warning: "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!  liberror-perl git-man git git-core". Someone knows how to fix this?
[11:39] <someone235> I try to install it with this command "sudo apt-get install git-core"
[11:40] <ash`> someone235: use sudo apt-get install git
[11:40] <ash`> someone235: it will automatically install the dependencies.
[11:40] <lukas_> hi
[11:40] <daviiiddddddd> nothing
[11:40] <daviiiddddddd> bff
[11:40] <someone235> ash`, I tried, and I get the same error
[11:41] <jatt> someone235: did you do sudo apt-get update?
[11:41] <ash`> hm what version of ubuntu are you running?
[11:41] <ash`> jatt: +1
[11:41] <someone235> jatt, yes
[11:41] <someone235> ash`, 14.04
[11:41] <lukas_> ih im noob her! what do i do her :)
[11:42] <jatt> and does sudo apt-get update report missing keys?
[11:43] <MrSavage> http://i.imgur.com/N5SolO8.png Why are you Os turning into fingers?
[11:43] <cyberace> hey guys, good day
[11:44] <jatt> which keys are missing, can you pastebin them?
[11:45] <MrSavage> jatt, the O/o key
[11:45] <MrSavage> jatt: the lowercase o
[11:45] <jatt> MrSavage: I meant someone235 sorry :)
[11:45] <MrSavage> let me see if restarting will fix this
[11:47] <lipzus> what do i need besides proc and sys when i chroot to a broken grub setup? i get "failed to get canonical path"
[11:48] <MrSavage> well that fixed it
[11:48] <MrSavage> jatt: what did my quit message say btw?
[11:49] <jatt> MrSavage: I don't know my irc client filters quit messages out
[11:51] <someone235> jatt, http://pastebin.com/eeftyRe7
[11:53] <lipzus> what the heck is wrong with this chat. 1000 people and i am alone with myself and my question?
[11:54] <Abrecus> Just joined.  What was your question lipzus?
[11:57] <lipzus> Abrecus: i get "failed to get canonical path" when i try to update-gru
[11:57] <cfhowlett> lipzus, https://inkscape.org/media/cms_page_media/56/ask-smart-questions.pdf
[11:58] <lipzus> wow
[11:58] <lipzus> so you are implying my question was not smart enough
[11:58] <lipzus> this is cool
[11:58] <lipzus> let me copy that to facebook and twitter, hang on
[11:58] <and0r> what about tumblr?
[11:59] <MrSavage> >>##defocus
[11:59] <lipzus> the common sociopathy of people in the linux community has finally arrived at ubuntu places too
[12:00] <lipzus> i am so glad
[12:00] <and0r> haha, oh man... welcome to 2014 dog
[12:00] <and0r> whats ur problem? maybe i can help you without being a huge fag
[12:01] <cfhowlett> lipzus, stay on topic please.  if you *must* vent/rant, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:03] <lb1a> how to contact a maintainer of the official ubuntu mirrors in germany? i found a list and could match the ip adresses to one mirror but i could not get any contact information
[12:05] <and0r> why do you want to contact him?
[12:05] <and0r> he is a very strange man
[12:05] <cfhowlett> !behelpful | and0r,
[12:06] <and0r> ok, but why do you really want to contact him?
[12:06] <lb1a> and0r, ^^ we get errors about hash mismatches and different release.gpg files on a nearly daily basis
[12:07] <and0r> who is "we"?
[12:07] <lb1a> our company
[12:07] <lb1a> we host several ubunutu servers
[12:07] <and0r> and why dont you think this is not a local issue?
[12:07] <and0r> regarding network/internet
[12:08] <cfhowlett> lb1a, fast (admittedly not optimal) workaround is to point to the main repos at least in the short term.  mismatches generally sort themselves over time ...
[12:09] <lb1a> because i did a "host de.archive.ubuntu.com" and wget the release.gpg file from every ip listed directly and they were different. and our servers run apt-get update through apticron on a daily basis and i get spammed by hash mismatches on a daily basis.
[12:10] <lb1a> i just wanted the maintainer to know about the issue.
[12:11] <lb1a> cfhowlett, thanks i considered switching to another mirror that is mentioned in the mirrors list (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors) this should be possible, am i right?
[12:12] <cfhowlett> lb1a, sure.  switching mirrors is easy.  software center / settings / software sources
[12:12] <and0r> lb1a, i seriously doubt it's the mirror
[12:12] <cfhowlett> doh!  you're on a server.  same process, just not so gui pretty
[12:12] <lb1a> cfhowlett, yeah i'm talking about ubuntu server, so i use the cli instead ;)
[12:13] <lb1a> and0r, what then?
[12:13] <and0r> lb1a, join #windows so i can help you better.. it's the chat room where my attention is focused
[12:13] <cfhowlett> lb1a, mirrors are weird.  I followed the "closest is best" rule, but that's definitely not tre.
[12:14] <and0r> give me address or IP of mirror
[12:14] <lb1a> and0r, not necessary. it's not that important. it's just annoying and i wanted to notify the maintainer. i'm used to report things i consider "bugs" ;)
[12:14] <cfhowlett> lb1a, http://ubuntu.mirror.tudos.de/ubuntu/
[12:15] <cfhowlett> lb1a, Technical University Dresden FWIW
[12:15] <lb1a> cfhowlett, yes that's the one i'm talking about
[12:16] <cfhowlett> lb1a, ftp://ftp.fu-berlin.de/linux/ubuntu/
[12:16] <someone235> jatt, have you looked at my pastebin?
[12:16] <and0r> lb1a, why would you want to come here to report something like this?
[12:16] <lb1a> i'm gonna switch to http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/ubuntu/ and see how things turn out. thanks anyway
[12:16] <cfhowlett> lb1a, best of luck
[12:17] <lb1a> and0r, just wanted info about how to contact. i didn't meant to get help about this issue here, just help to contact somebody
[12:17] <lb1a> cfhowlett, thanks
[12:19] <and0r> lb1a, i understand your communal spirit.. its very "open source"
[12:20] <and0r> but, i think your energy would be better directed at wikipedia.. you should get involved with them
[12:20] <cyberace> Hey, any INFOSEC guys here?
[12:20] <michele993> hi guys
[12:21] <michele993> why when i install unity3d with wine it appear error inistalizing license
[12:21] <and0r> it is more of a realistic enterprise... linux is some kind of wierd space program ran by bots with very little administation
[12:21] <cfhowlett> michele993, unity with WINE?? why?
[12:21] <MrSavage> Where can I find the source code for ubuntu's version of firefox?
[12:21] <and0r> to me, ubuntu seems like a faceless entity
[12:21] <michele993> unity3d
[12:21] <MrSavage> cfhowlett: what's wrong with unity with wine?
[12:21] <EriC^^> and0r: sudo apt-get source firefox
[12:21] <bazhang> !ot | and0r
[12:21] <cfhowlett> and0r, neither true nor helpful.  please restrain your urge to FUD spam
[12:22] <EriC^^> and0r: i think you don't need sudo for that
[12:24] <someone235> When I try to install git with this command "sudo apt-get install git-core", I get "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!  liberror-perl git-man git git-core". I tried to "apt-get update", but it didn't help. Someone knows how to fix this?
[12:24] <niko> /60/10
[12:25] <MrSavage> Where can I find the source code for ubuntu's version of firefox?
[12:26] <EriC^^> MrSavage: apt-get source firefox
[12:26] <MrSavage> EriC^^: thank you
[12:27] <MrSavage> EriC^^: Gonna have to code in my own wanted file picker/dialogue
[12:27] <MrSavage> T_T
[12:27] <EriC^^> MrSavage: you can do something easier
[12:27] <MrSavage> EriC^^: what is it?
[12:27] <spastic_elephant> ohai
[12:28] <spastic_elephant> how is the ubuntu Steam support going?
[12:28] <spastic_elephant> Any help needed?
[12:28] <EriC^^> sudo mv /usr/bin/nautilus /usr/bin/nautilus.realbin; ls -s /usr/bin/nemo /usr/bin/nautilus
[12:28] <EriC^^> you need sudo for making the link too
[12:28] <bazhang> !steam | spastic_elephant
[12:28] <MrSavage> ok, let me try it out
[12:28] <EriC^^> MrSavage: it's an ugly hack but it'll work
[12:30] <MrSavage> EriC^^: don't you mean ln instead of ls?
[12:30] <EriC^^> yeah, sorry
[12:30] <MrSavage> ;)
[12:30] <EriC^^> i actually typed ls -n at first :D
[12:31] <MrSavage> EriC^^: It's still the same problem with the firefox file picker
[12:31] <EriC^^> hmm
[12:31] <MrSavage> the great net split
[12:32] <cruise_> hello
[12:32] <`ajven> hi, do you know any real alternative tasker for linux ?
[12:33] <EriC^^> MrSavage: you mean when you want to download something it and save to it opens with nautilus?
[12:34] <MrSavage> EriC^^: for everything with firefox: the open containing folder, the file picker for downloading and uploading
[12:37] <MrSavage> EriC^^: so i did apt-get source firefox, where is the source code? lol
[12:37] <EriC^^> :D
[12:38] <EriC^^> it should be in the dir you ran the command in
[12:39] <cfhowlett> MrSavage, it downloads to your /home
[12:39] <MrSavage> those are 2 conflicting answers, but i found it
[12:40] <MrSavage> cfhowlett EriC^^ which one is it?
[12:41] <cfhowlett> MrSavage, both statements are correct = navigate your system and look
[12:46] <graingert> heya. I have * * * * * /usr/bin/python -c 'import sys; sys.exit(1)' in my crontab, but I can't see any errors in my   sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog
[12:46] <graingert> Dec 16 12:41:01 redacted.example.com CRON[8319]: (vagrant) CMD (/usr/bin/python -c 'import sys; sys.exit(1)')
[12:47] <graingert> any ideas where to get them from?
[12:48] <graingert> I'm looking for "Aug 16 10:30:01 redacted.com CRON[8319]: (CRON) error (grandchild #8320 failed with exit status 1)"
[12:48] <graingert> eg http://drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/82737/what-does-cron-error-exit-status-4-mean-in-syslog-ubuntu
[12:50] <pranav> hi , i am having problems with my network service , whenever the system goes in to sleep the network service crashes and the only way its UP is when i restart it .. Any solutions ?
[12:51] <pranav> i tried restarting the network service through terminal but also didnt help .
[12:57] <teraliv_> for how is using terminator, how do you set infinite scroll ?
[12:57] <teraliv_> for who* sorry
[12:59] <teraliv_> i found it no worries
[12:59] <e-cruiser>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER e-cruiser sbcyryokkode
[13:05] <cfhowlett> e-cruiser, remove that extra starting space and it might just work ...
[13:06] <rosseta1> Hi. My 1TB Hard disk is mounted on / and I recently added a new 500G hard disk which is mounted on /home/backup_hd. I know I'm wrong, but by stupid brain tells me that if I'll put some data on my 1TB hard disk, it will also be added to the 500G, becuase / and /home/backup_hd intersect in terms of directory heirarchy
[13:10] <ararob> rosseta1:not unless you put it in /home/backup_hd
[13:11] <rosseta1> So If I'll add some data to /home/backup_hd it will also be added to the 1TB  hard disk which is mounted on / ?
[13:11] <rbnielsen> No
[13:11] <rosseta1> Oh, that's great. Can you please elaborate briefly on why not?
[13:11] <ararob> "/home/backup_hd" is a seperate HD
[13:11] <rbnielsen> /home/backup_hd is mounted on the 500GB drive.
[13:12] <rosseta1> So the OS knows that and therefore sends data only to a specific hard disk, based on the location it is mounted at.
[13:12] <and0r> why would two different paths overlap? GET REAL DUDE
[13:13] <rosseta1> I mean, /home/backup_hd is a leaf in /
[13:13] <rosseta1> So i thought it might cause a problem, but thinking again - everything is under / :-)
[13:14] <rosseta1> I just don't know the mechanism behind mv'ing data from and to different disks.
[13:14] <ararob> rosseta1: /home/backup_hd is just a descriptor that sits on / and points to the 500G drive, that's just it
[13:14] <rosseta1> Got it :-)
[13:14] <rbnielsen> In terms of folder hierachy, /home/backup_hd is a subfolder within /, yes. But since /home/bachup_hd is mounted to the 500GB, it will only point to that drive.
[13:15] <rbnielsen> So whatever is located inside /home/backup_hd will be on the 500GB drive.
[13:15] <rosseta1> rbnielsen:And not on the 1TB, correct ?
[13:15] <rbnielsen> Whereas everything else in / is on the 1TB drive
[13:15] <e-cruiser> ecruiser
[13:15] <rbnielsen> Yes.
[13:16] <rosseta1> That's great guys, thank you for making the subject clearer for me.
[13:16] <rosseta1> Have a nice day!
[13:16] <e-cruiser> eCruiser... better?
[13:16] <rosseta1> Nah, keep it simple :-)
[13:16] <bach1c_> hola
[13:17] <lorenygon> sosjipazoos lololo
[13:17] <lorenygon> yoda pollo lololo
[13:17] <bach1c_> chaperooooos
[13:17] <ikonia> ?
[13:17] <ikonia> English please.
[13:18] <bach1c_> andreaaaaaa fea
[13:18] <DJones> lorenygon: bach1c_ This channel is for ubuntu support only, please don't use for personal chat
[13:18] <lorenygon> ikonia lololo
[13:18] <bach1c__> holissss
[13:18] <ikonia> English please
[13:18] <chapera10> holisssss
[13:18] <gorrion> no englhis
[13:18] <lorenygon> fuck you lololo ikonia
[13:18] <gorrion> spanish
[13:18] <cfhowlett> !ops | lorenygon
[13:18] <cfhowlett> !ops | gorrion
[13:19] <ikonia> ok ok
[13:19] <ikonia> I'm on it
[13:19] <ecruiser> lol
[13:23] <davividal> hi. I'm trying to install pgadmin3 without dependencies using apt-get. I already installed the dependencies using a PPA, but it's a newer version (3.0.2 instead of 3.0.0). Is there anything I could do?
[13:24] <ThePendulum> Hey. I'm running Ubuntu 12.10 on a NAS, and I'm trying to install Apache. However, whenever I try to install anything with apt-get, it 404s all over the place. Any idea how to fix the repositories via the terminal?
[13:24] <DJones> ThePendulum: 12.10 is eol so the repo's will have been removed
[13:24] <cfhowlett> !12.10 ThePendulu| m, time to upgrade
[13:25] <k1l> !eol | ThePendulum
[13:25] <k1l> ThePendulum: you should have choosen 12.04 since its a LTS.
[13:25] <ThePendulum> DJones: Really? That seems a trifle harsh o_o
[13:25] <ThePendulum> Is there no way to use 12.04s repos on 12.10?
[13:25] <cfhowlett> ThePendulum, no SAFE way ...
[13:25] <ThePendulum> k1l: Well I didn't assume it would simply become unusable after the support period ended
[13:26] <k1l> ThePendulum: no. you did the wrong choice. you will just make it worse now. so update to 13.04 then 13.10 then 14.04
[13:26] <cfhowlett> ThePendulum, 12.04 or 14.04 are both LTS.  choose
[13:26] <ThePendulum> k1l: What's the point of updating to 13.04 and 13.10 first?
[13:26] <k1l> ThePendulum: unusable? you already have real big security issues on your machine
[13:26] <cfhowlett> ThePendulum, it's usable , just little things; no security.
[13:27] <k1l> ThePendulum: you need to make every release step. like i said: you did the wrong install. you should have chhosen 12.04 back then. there is even a 12.04 to 14.04 upgrade path since its LTS
[13:27] <cfhowlett> ThePendulum, suggest you clean install 14.04 but if you want to upgrade in place = 12.10 > 13.04 > 13.10 > 14.04
[13:27] <k1l> ThePendulum: you remember shellshock etc? you dont have fixes for that on your machine. so upgrade asap
[13:28] <ThePendulum> k1l: It's a low-priority machine as it's primarily an HTPC, never really looked after it
[13:29] <k1l> so in general: if you dont want to upgrade for years: use LTS and stay on LTS.  if you can upgrade all 6 months you can use all realeases
[13:29] <cfhowlett> ThePendulum, so ... doesn't matter if it's breached, right?
[13:29] <k1l> *releases
[13:29] <k1l> !eolupgrades | ThePendulum that is your update path then
[13:29]  * ObrienDave smh and chuckles
[13:30] <ThePendulum> k1l: I am aware of that now, yes
[13:30] <davividal> hi. I'm trying to install pgadmin3 without dependencies using apt-get. I already installed the dependencies using a PPA, but it's a newer version (3.0.2 instead of 3.0.0). Is there anything I could do?
[13:30] <fidel__> hi - i am using apt-cacher-ng to provide updates to several ubuntu 14.04 boxes which dont have direct access to the internet. this worked for a long time now. now after jumping to 14.04 on those boxes i do realize GPG key errors on those machines. Adding those keys via: "apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys XY' is not an option (as the machines themself have no network connectivity to the outside). Is that issue solveable ...
[13:30] <fidel__> ... via apt-cacher-ng? ;)
[13:30] <FDR21> do you think camron is using ubuntu??
[13:31] <ThePendulum> Luckily everything is running on a USB stick
[13:31] <FDR21> i mean Cameron
[13:31] <ThePendulum> Ugh, I'll have to set-up cifs again, hate doing that
[13:32] <FDR21> turn your bash history into a script
[13:32] <OerHeks> FDR21, do you have an ubuntu support question, besides who uses ubuntu?
[13:33] <FDR21> actually i was in the process of helping ThePendulum before you interrupted
[13:37] <FDR21> can i joint the social channel?
[13:37] <ObrienDave> #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:37] <cfhowlett> FDR21, this is NOT a social channel.
[13:38] <FDR21> i was over at the social channel before you broth me back in here
[13:39] <ObrienDave> chicken or beef?
[13:40] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave, ehhhh, channel check???
[13:40] <ObrienDave> he said 'broth' ;p
[13:40] <jatt> fidel__: apt-get supports --allow-unauthenticated
[13:42] <fidel__> jatt: that would be an option yes
[13:43] <fidel__> could i provide the keys manual as well - as in downloading them once with a machine with network connectivity and then scp them to the affected machines?
[13:43] <fidel__> just unsure where the keys should be located
[13:44] <fidel__> mh - seems like there is apt-key list & export ;)
[13:44] <jatt> fidel__: you can manage the keys with apt-key yes
[13:44] <fidel__> got it - thanks
[13:45] <fidel__>  
[13:51] <jobs> hello
[13:51] <zebra111> !hello | jobs
[13:52] <zebra111> Hello jobs
[13:53] <FDR21> move along
[13:56] <mbeasley> i have a logitech touchpad mouse. is there a straightforward way to disable inertial scrolling through something like xmodmap or some other config?
[14:03] <Blindstealer> hi
[14:06] <rrr>  add-apt-repository: command not found
[14:06] <rrr> where to get this command?
[14:07] <OerHeks> rrr You can simply add the add-apt-repository command. It's part of the python-software-properties package >> sudo apt-get install python-software-properties
[14:09] <OerHeks> err, or is it software-properties-common ?
[14:09] <ice_lns> hello
[14:09] <ThePendulum> rrr: sudo apt-get install software-properties-common python-software-properties
[14:09] <rrr> OerHeks: after doing "apt-get install python-software-properties", I still get "-bash: add-apt-repository: command not found"
[14:09] <ThePendulum> rrr: According to the first Google result, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13018626/add-apt-repository-not-found
[14:09] <FDR21> !TIAS
[14:09] <ThePendulum> how about software-properties-common?
[14:10] <OerHeks> i have software-properties-common only in my 14.10 software list
[14:10] <FDR21> whats the deal with blowfish and freenode?
[14:10] <teward> OerHeks: software-properties-common for precise and Later
[14:10] <teward> s/precise/trusty/
[14:10] <teward> rrr: sudo apt-get install python-software-properties software-properties-common
[14:11] <teward> rrr: it'll show up after that
[14:11] <rrr> works now. thanks.
[14:11] <teward> (it's in software-properties-common from Trusty and later)
[14:12] <ice_lns> May I speak
[14:13] <zebra111> !question | ice_lns
[14:13] <ThePendulum> hmmm, possibly that was his very question. in that case, yes, you may
[14:14] <ice_lns> Yes this is my question
[14:14] <teward> ice_lns: we don't go on a person-by-person basis - you simply ask your question and then people will ping you (by name) with follow up statements or possible suggestions as to how to fix your problem.
[14:14] <teward> ice_lns: however, you should not ask "can i speak" or "anyone around to help" or "can i ask a question".  Just ask your real question :)
[14:17] <FDR21> !blowfish
[14:19] <hokihozlt> hi. i'm seeking advice on distro choice. Semi torn between debian and ubuntu. i like debians philosophy and ethical component + stability, while i also like ubuntu's making headway in corporate world, becoming an officehold name. and easy to use is also nice. what do you think?
[14:19] <Guest55294> hokihozLt: i advice you use ubuntu
[14:19] <ObrienDave> try them both. make up your own mind
[14:19] <k1l> hokihozlt: since you ask in a ubuntu channel: use ubuntu :)
[14:20] <ErC2> I never use debian but I liked Ubuntu
[14:20] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:20] <master> +1 vote ubuntu
[14:20] <hokihozlt> and which would you say is better supported?
[14:20] <ObrienDave> both
[14:20] <k1l> hokihozlt: ##linux for more "objective" answers
[14:21] <rrr> i want to upload a file to remote server. what is the quickest way to do this?
[14:22] <k1l> rrr: scp ?
[14:22] <ice_lns> Afro
[14:22] <ice_lns> Sftp
[14:22] <ciao> ciao
[14:23] <ciao> !list
[14:23] <tuttie> !netsplit
[14:25] <MacroMan> I'm trying to use the sound recorder to test my microphone, but the 'Record as' dropdown box is empty. Any ideas what is wrong?
[14:25] <kevindf> Hello, a while ago I removed the real name from the indicator session in gnome fallback interface. but now i'm trying to add it again but I don't see why it's not showing up anymore
[14:25] <kevindf> I've added the full applet to my top panel
[14:25] <kevindf> so it should be showing but it doesn't
[14:25] <MacroMan> It's the gnome sound recorder
[14:25] <ErC2> I try to install vuze from the official website azureus but it seem not working well on my ubuntu 14.04 . After I try to search the Vuze is closed. Anyone have same problem ?
[14:27] <ciao> ciao a tutti
[14:27] <OerHeks> ErC2, vuze is in our repository's, so no need to get it from their homepage.
[14:27] <OerHeks> azureus too *
[14:28] <daniel555> hi, who use kad?
[14:28] <daniel555> hi, who use kad?
[14:29] <MasterPiece> How can I buy Ubuntu Edge (Smart Phone) ?
[14:29] <ErC2> I  using Vuze from  the repository now for running Vuze, but when I try to import some templates from https://sites.google.com/site/vuzetemplates/home/templates-download it doesnt work. It is normal ?
[14:29] <PenguinAnon> It looks like the Ubuntu Developer Tools Center tool is broken. It fails to parse the download page. Should I report the bug on Launchpad or Github?
[14:30] <OerHeks> !phone | MasterPiece
[14:30] <geirha> MasterPiece: Ubuntu Edge got aborted due to insufficient funding
[14:33] <FoolsRun> Hey, I have the dumbest question: is there a way to send a keystroke (a "Y") to the console session from ssh?
[14:34] <MasterPiece> FoolsRun, yes, "echo" the msg to "/dev/pts/xx"
[14:34] <TuttiePutty> how do you like my new nick?
[14:34] <FoolsRun> MasterPiece: that's really hard to find via google :)
[14:35] <TuttiePutty> geeky right?
[14:35] <geirha> FoolsRun: It probably won't work the way you hope
[14:35] <geirha> the Y will be displayed in the target tty, but it won't be used as input in that tty
[14:35] <MasterPiece> FoolsRun, e.g: echo "Hi" > /dev/pts/# ( Note replace # with respective number of pts )
[14:36] <FoolsRun> geirha: is there a way to make it execute? I need to answer a question about replacing a file during a package update
[14:37] <geirha> FoolsRun: A typical way to handle that is to think ahead and run it in a screen or tmux session in the first place
[14:37] <k1l_> TuttiePutty: please keep this channel clear for support. this is not a social channel but a technical support channel
[14:37] <FoolsRun> geirha: I agree, but sadly that didn't happen. If there's no way to do it that's fine, I can wait until I'm in front of it again.
[14:38] <geirha> FoolsRun: Not that I know of
[14:38] <FoolsRun> geirha: cool, thanks
[14:38] <Chuck_Norris> FoolsRun:
[14:39] <Chuck_Norris> FoolsRun: try:  sudo echo "message" | wall   -.-
[14:40] <geirha> Chuck_Norris: Not what sie wants. Also, it's wall that needs to be run as root, not echo
[14:41] <Chuck_Norris> geirha: oh! sry i didn't read the initial question of FooMunki_ -.-
[14:42] <Chuck_Norris> eventhoug he can run wall without sudo, but if he doesn't want that your user name show ups in the message broadcasted then he will need "sudo" to run it with, "wall -n" -.-
[14:44] <ErC2> Umm. About my last question "I  using Vuze from  the repository now for running Vuze, but when I try to import some templates from https://sites.google.com/site/vuzetemplates/home/templates-download it doesnt work(cant be imported but some can ). It is normal ?"
[14:45] <ErC2> Or where I can get the support about that matter
[14:50] <nbcardoso> boa tarde
[14:50] <nbcardoso> alguem portugues, por aqui
[14:51] <k1l_> !pt | nbcardoso
[14:51] <ice_lns> nbcardoso: plz speak English
[14:53] <rprakash> #openstack-meeting-alt
[15:10] <ThePendulum> I installed ubuntu on a flash drive, and whenever I boot, it shows the grub OS selection menu with Windows 8 that isn't even installed and that I want to skip
[15:10] <ThePendulum> How do I set the default to Ubuntu?
[15:10] <cfhowlett> ThePendulum, sudo update grub
[15:10] <ThePendulum> cfhowlett: that just scans through the disks to see what boot options currently truly are available?
[15:11] <cfhowlett> ThePendulum, yep
[15:11] <ThePendulum> cfhowlett: ran that over SSH, I'll check in a bit if it worked, thanks a lot
[15:11] <ThePendulum> (added the hyphen, update-grub)
[15:11] <cfhowlett> ThePendulum, doh!  right.
[15:11] <ThePendulum> for future reference :P
[15:18] <kevdog> nmcli
[15:19] <kevdog> is there a nm-tool equivalent?
[15:19] <grar> How do I make rhythmbox use my GTK+ theme? It's currently using what I assume is the default look. I didn't see anything about theming in the plugins or preferences. I'm on Xubuntu 14.04.
[15:19] <grar> I have both a GTK2 and GTK3 theme installed
[15:21] <Guest35591> hey guys, why does byobu exit with an error code and some ascii giberish? <ubuntu 14.04 btw>
[15:23] <grar> How do I make rhythmbox use my GTK+ theme? It's currently using what I assume is the default look. I didn't see anything about theming in the plugins or preferences. I'm on Xubuntu 14.04. I have clearlooks-phenix installed which includes clearlooks and the appropriate theming engines.
[15:24] <daftykins> !repeat
[15:25] <grar> I repeat it because it's been pushed off the scetren by all of these join/leave/name changing messages........
[15:26] <Guma> I was wondering if there are any tools to query what kind of controller (if any) sd card uses. Is this even possible?
[15:26] <cfhowlett> grar, pushed off YOUR screen.  turn off join/leave messages and be patient.
[15:26] <grar> Guma does lspci not tell you what you need to know?
[15:26] <grar> cfhowlett how does one go about turning them off?
[15:27] <daftykins> read docs about your IRC client
[15:27] <Pici> !quietirc
[15:27] <cfhowlett> grar, depends on your irc chat client
[15:27] <cfhowlett> Pici, good find!
[15:27] <grar> Pici and cfhowlett thanks
[15:27] <ej> cfwhowlett: im pure lubuntu... well..
[15:28] <cfhowlett> ej, happy now?
[15:28] <ej> never!
[15:28] <ej> yes..yes..ty
[15:28] <ej> just wondering how to put it to a disk
[15:29] <ej> external disk .. i have a 4gb usb.
[15:29] <Guma> grar: It looks like it is not showing up in list. I have external SD card reader with micto SD card in it. doing lspci with usb hub plugged in and off does not show any changes.
[15:30] <grar> Guma lsusb ?
[15:30] <Badegakk> Hello
[15:31] <ej> so i should have a anti-virus app?
[15:32] <cfhowlett> ej, up to you
[15:32] <cfhowlett> !antivirus | ej
[15:32] <Badegakk> A friend getting this error when his sending and e-mail to my e-mail server from his at work. Is the error on my or his side :530 5.7.0 Must
[15:32] <Badegakk> issue a STARTTLS command first (in reply to MAIL FROM command)
[15:32] <ej> ok// whats the contol for name in xchat
[15:32] <ej> ?
[15:32] <ThePendulum> I remember someone giving me a terminal application that allowed me to paste the contents of a file directly online. Does anyone know about this?
[15:32] <cfhowlett> ThePendulum, pastebinit
[15:32] <DJones> !pastebinit | ThePendulum
[15:32] <ThePendulum> cfhowlett: cheers
[15:33] <ej> whoa..
[15:34] <cfhowlett> ThePendulum, also: cli command | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:35] <Guma> grar: I get Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0bda:0301 Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
[15:35] <Guma> Would this be controler on USB card reader or the SD card itself
[15:35] <ThePendulum> cfhowlett: my lazy memory prefers pastebinit
[15:36] <cfhowlett> ThePendulum, fair enoubh
[15:36] <cfhowlett> *enough*
[15:36] <grar> Guma looks like the SD card reader
[15:37] <grar> Guma http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2174318.html this might be related to your problem
[15:38] <Frantic> hey guys, I'm on 14.04 and have some issues with DNS, I've just noticed that resolv.conf points to 127.0.1.1 and that I have a dnsmasq listening there. How might I get the configuration for that dnsmasq? the --conf-files params that I see via 'ps aux | grep dnsmasq' are empty
[15:38] <ej> so i need to crack my admin  cmos passwd to turn on audio.. any uggestions?
[15:40] <Guma> grar I guess I can take out the sd card physically from reader and see if it is still listed. If not then I would say it is it. If listed then it is the HUB. Would you agree?>
[15:41] <grar> Guma unplug the SD card READER and see if it is still listed
[15:42] <ej> !chroot
[15:43] <cfhowlett> ej, try a hardware reset first.  I seem to recall that paperclipping the battery contacts or something would trigger a hard cmos reset to defaults.  Research it first.
[15:43] <cfhowlett> ej, ask ##linux about hacking the PW
[15:44] <ej> thanks...
[15:44] <ej> ohh..?
[15:44] <ej> whats the key command to address your name in xchat
[15:44] <ej> ?
[15:45] <cfhowlett> ej, tab complete
[15:45] <Guma> grar taking sd card itself from reader lsusb still shows realtek. So it must be the HUB. I will read your link now see what is up
[15:45] <ej> complete?
[15:45] <cfhowlett> ej, first few letters of names > hit TAB to complete
[15:46] <ej> cfhowlett, got it .. TY!
[15:46] <cfhowlett> ej, happy2help
[15:46] <DMA> Hello :). I noticed a cronjob worked just until Dec 5. Seems to be the only one that is not being executed, nothing shows up about it in /var/log/syslog but if I copy the line from crontab -l it gets executed correctly. What could be happening?
[15:47] <ej> i gotta give back some day.. this is really helping me .
[15:47] <cfhowlett> ej, do like I do: go to the library, boot a USB and "forget" to take it out when I leave.
[15:48] <ej> you just blew my mind!
[15:48] <ej> nice..
[15:48] <tnkhanh> hi I see a difference between installing something thru apt-get and thru tarballs
[15:49] <tnkhanh> how to run something in terminal as if its installed thru apt-get but you got it thru tarballs
[15:49] <kevdog> Yes apt-get using the package-manager and usually installing through tarballs involves compiling which then things can be installed outside the package manger
[15:50] <xangua> also you won't get secutiry updates/support if you installed from source
[15:52] <tnkhanh> what about .run files?
[15:52] <tnkhanh> sometimes I install by .run files
[15:53] <grar> How do I make rhythmbox use my GTK+ theme? It's currently using what I assume is the default look. I didn't see anything about theming in the plugins or preferences. I'm on Xubuntu 14.04. I have clearlooks-phenix installed which includes the original clearlooks and the appropriate theming engines.
[15:53] <valium> hey
[15:53] <valium> can someone remote my laptop
[15:54] <valium> im trying to change lxle to ubuntu
[15:54] <valium> anyone please ?
[15:54] <ej> what gain?
[15:55] <valium> please someone help me
[15:55] <ej> remote dns?
[15:55] <ej> attack?
[15:55] <valium> what?
[15:56] <valium> seriously cannot change my lxle into ubuntu
[15:56] <sena> bb for life
[15:56] <valium> i need someone to remote my laptop
[15:56] <ej> im learning here to valium ..just making converse
[15:56] <zebra111> valium you mean lxle to unity?
[15:56] <ej> !remote
[15:57] <valium> zebra can u help?
[15:57] <zebra111> I might be able to help valium
[15:57] <valium> i pm u
[15:57] <valium> did u get it>?
[15:57] <ej> wait explain please ..
[15:57] <ej> what r u guys doing ?
[15:58] <cfhowlett> ej, lxle is NOT ubuntu.  trying to "turn it into ubuntu" is likely to break it altogether.  download ubuntu, install as normal.
[15:59] <valium> i cannot convert it?
[15:59] <cfhowlett> valium, course not.  it's NOT ubuntu, not supported
[16:02] <ej> oh lxle not lxde..scared me there..
[16:02] <ej> !lxle
[16:03] <ej> ohh i wish i didnt see that..
[16:04] <cfhowlett> !flavors | ej if it's not on this list, it's not supported here.
[16:05] <ej> cool..
[16:07] <ej> whats the sound manger that runs in terminal?
[16:08] <zebra111> ej alsamixer
[16:08] <ej> oops..
[16:08] <ej> ty..
[16:08] <ej> wtf!
[16:09] <ej> its tab.. then...
[16:09] <ej> zebra111, ahh i see.. sry about guys.
[16:13] <flow> how do i find out what is using up my ram?
[16:14] <cfhowlett> flow, top
[16:14] <flow> I can't see anything using very much there
[16:14] <flow> but my xubuntu panel thing tells me it is nearly used 100% and my laptop is actually pretty slow atm
[16:15] <daftykins> flow: are you new to Linux?
[16:17] <flow> daftykins, no
[16:18] <flow> top everything I see is <5%
[16:18] <flow> I tried that before asking here
[16:18] <daftykins> ok just checking in case you could've done with pointing toward linuxatemyram.com :>
[16:18] <Daddy> ciao
[16:18] <cfhowlett> daftykins, THAT'S what I was trying to remember!  thanks.
[16:18] <daftykins> :D
[16:18] <daftykins> Daddy: do you have a question?
[16:19] <flow> haha didn't know that though daftykins :D
[16:19] <daftykins> it is a fine resource
[16:19] <RahulAN> Mayer, hii
[16:20] <flow> yeah no I have this xubuntu panel widget which shows how much ram is used. It is normally about 1000 / 2800 MB and I normally don't care. But my laptop feels really slow atm so I looked and it was at 2300 MB so I tried top but that didn't show me any big memory eater
[16:21] <daftykins> flow: can you pastebin a "free -m" in the terminal?
[16:21] <daftykins> as in, don't paste it into the channel
[16:21] <flow> I'm not new to IRC :D
[16:22] <flow> can I switch the terminal language for that one command?
[16:22] <flow> oh found how
[16:22] <flow> http://pastebin.com/mn9ZTpFY
[16:23] <ej> !pastebin
[16:25] <mink> Hi guys!
[16:25] <flow> I don't get these in this chanel only this pastebin
[16:25] <mink> Does anyone know can I find source from demo.jujucharms.com somewhere?
[16:26] <cfhowlett> mink, check their website?  not a canonical/ubuntu product
[16:27] <daftykins> flow: so apparently yeah, 2.3GB of your usage is buffer/cache - nothing to worry about
[16:27] <mink> cfhowlett, that is already on github...
[16:28] <OerHeks> mink, i think you must search launchpad https://launchpad.net/charms
[16:28] <daftykins> flow: although it seems you have no swap, which isn't good as your system will just slow down when the RAM usage is high
[16:28] <cfhowlett> mink, true! I was wrong!  sorry.
[16:28] <flow> damn it. I did the disk partitioning myself to put the home directory on a different partition
[16:28] <daftykins> and forgot a swap? oh dear.
[16:29] <daftykins> -10 points
[16:29] <flow> no I am pretty sure I did swap
[16:29] <flow> but when I start up it normally says it can't encrypt swap or something like that but by the way it has started up I have other stuff in mind
[16:29] <daftykins> your free -m output disagrees :)
[16:29] <flow> what can I do now?
[16:29] <daftykins> regarding what?
[16:30] <flow> daftykins, I think I have the partition because I remember googeling how big the swap should be
[16:30] <flow> daftykins, tell my ubuntu to use the swap partition
[16:30] <daftykins> *shrug* you mentioned encryption so that's me out.
[16:31] <flow> damn it
[16:32] <OerHeks> flow, please keep your language in this channnel family friendly, thanks.
[16:33] <flow> OerHeks, sorry, didn't know that that is bad language already
[16:34] <olorin12> Hi all. I just installed 14.10. When I go to the Software Centre, the 'For Purchase' category has nothing in it. Also, when I search for Steam, it does not have the 'install' button, and says that Steam isn't found in my software sources. Any ideas?
[16:34] <flow> Ok I have a 3,5GB Swap partition. Apparently, my ubuntu doesn't use that. Can anyone tell me what I should do now?
[16:35] <bubbasaures> olorin12, Have you run a update?
[16:35] <olorin12> yes
[16:35] <olorin12> software sources and software
[16:35] <anonymous_> hello every one.
[16:36] <anonymous_> what does this command mean
[16:36] <anonymous_> chmod +x
[16:36] <curiousx> olorin12: aptitude search steam
[16:36] <bubbasaures> olorin12, open software and updates 2nd tab and make sure all the repos are ticked on.
[16:36] <ash`> anonymous_: man chmod
[16:36] <ash`>        chmod - change file mode bits
[16:36] <cfhowlett> anonymous_, use your terminal:   man chmod       and READ
[16:36] <ash`> -.-
[16:36] <anonymous_> ok thanks
[16:37] <olorin12> they are, and Chuck Norris, are you saying I should type aptitude search steam in terminal?
[16:37] <daftykins> you should be using apt-get, not aptitude
[16:37] <Chuck_Norris> olorin12: yes, to see if you can install it from apt
[16:38] <olorin12> sudo apt-get search steam    E: Invalid operation search
[16:38] <mink> olorin12, apt-cache search steam
[16:38] <OerHeks> olorin12, go into softwarecenter > edit > sources, and enable multiverse repo and reload again
[16:38] <daftykins> sudo apt-get update && apt-cache search <thing to search for>
[16:38] <olorin12> that found it
[16:38] <olorin12> ok brb
[16:38] <OerHeks> !info steam
[16:39] <valium> is zebra here
[16:40] <OerHeks> valium 111 of them
[16:40] <daftykins> valium: we're not an answerphone service, check the nick list yourself or state your query again
[16:40]  * Chuck_Norris thinks that the output of "aptitude" is cleaner than "apt" for searching sofware 
[16:40] <OerHeks> zebra111 ^^
[16:40] <TuttiePutty> testing
[16:40] <olorin12> multiverse was already enabled. I disabled and re-enabled it, then searched again. Still no 'For Purchase' apps, and Steam is not able to be installed
[16:41] <valium> so i have teamviewer installed , need someone to remote my laptop
[16:41] <OerHeks> olorin12, steam:i386 is in my list
[16:41] <valium> upgrade my lxle to ubuntu
[16:41] <zebra111> Hey valium
[16:41] <valium> hey
[16:42] <TuttiePutty> sup
[16:42] <Chuck_Norris> olorin12: try changing mirror
[16:42] <olorin12> k
[16:43] <daftykins> valium: we don't support LXLE
[16:43] <olorin12> same thing :-(
[16:43] <daftykins> if we're talking about the distro.
[16:44] <Chuck_Norris> olorin12: did you update after chaning mirror ?
[16:44] <olorin12> yes
[16:44] <olorin12> trying another
[16:44] <daftykins> olorin12: show what exactly you're doing and what you consider it to be failing. http://paste.ubuntu.com
[16:44] <Chuck_Norris> so odd -.-
[16:44] <TuttiePutty> ppas everyone
[16:44] <e88> do we have any reports of google earth not installing via the repos ?
[16:44] <daftykins> TuttiePutty: try an actual question.
[16:44] <grar> How do I make rhythmbox use my GTK+ theme? It's currently using what I assume is the default look. I didn't see anything about theming in the plugins or preferences. I'm on Xubuntu 14.04. I have clearlooks-phenix installed which includes the original clearlooks and the appropriate theming engines.
[16:45] <Chuck_Norris> olorin12: lsb_release -d
[16:45] <daftykins> e88: if you installed the package that has the google earth builder, you have to run it first
[16:45] <olorin12> 14.10
[16:45] <Chuck_Norris> doh! nvm
[16:45] <e88> daftykins: no, i simply did what the website said and installed (tried) the deb from the website
[16:46] <ej> were would i find help compling akernal for this driver alsamixer i dont feal comfortable going any futher with this.. know issue for my laptop.
[16:46] <daftykins> what deb? googles? yeah that's not going to work
[16:46]  * TuttiePutty googles earth
[16:46] <olorin12> daftykins am I supposed to upload a screenshot? how do I do that?
[16:46]  * daftykins blinks
[16:46] <e88> daftykins: so i'm out of luck with getting hte google earth to work under ubuntu 14.10 ?
[16:47] <daftykins> e88: no you just need to actually research how ;) one sec.
[16:48] <olorin12> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9541913/
[16:48] <e88> daftykins: you were right. hit it first thign on google
[16:48] <daftykins> e88: googleearth-package is a decent method too
[16:51] <ej> were would i find help compling akernal for this driver alsamixer i dont feal comfortable going any futher with this.. know issue for my laptop.
[16:52] <sgs> trying to get steam to work?
[16:52] <daftykins> ej: alsamixer isn't a driver.
[16:53] <olorin12> alsamixer is an application that helps you control alsa
[16:53] <ej> i need the control mixer for alsa..
[16:53] <daftykins> olorin12: what happens when you close that program, then run a terminal and type "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install steam:i386"
[16:53] <daftykins> ej: so install it. it has nothing to do with compiling a kernel
[16:54] <olorin12> uno momentito
[16:54] <TuttiePutty> its were you make alsa cackes?
[16:54] <ej> daftykins, can u take alook at this post first please?
[16:54] <daftykins> TuttiePutty: either ask a genuine support question or leave, please.
[16:54] <daftykins> ej: "this post" ?
[16:54] <olorin12> lol now it is installing
[16:54] <ej> webpage
[16:54] <olorin12> with dependencies
[16:54] <ej> sorry...
[16:55] <nuke1989> transmission overdownloaded a torrent. Its more than 100% . Any thoughts?
[16:55] <ej> ode.google.com/p/vaio-f11-linux/issues/detail?id=2
[16:55] <ej> code.google.com/p/vaio-f11-linux/issues/detail?id=2
[16:56] <TuttiePutty> alsa is a unilever brand
[16:56] <olorin12> daftykins - it installed, no problem. So I guess the problem is with the Software Centre
[16:57] <TuttiePutty> http://www.unilever-jm.com/brands/foodbrands/alsa/
[16:57] <daftykins> olorin12: or your install, assuming you've ever updated and upgraded yet
[16:57] <olorin12> I have
[16:57] <daftykins> ah well, don't do GUI package management so i can't help you there
[16:57] <olorin12> lol ok
[16:57] <Diegao> anyone here faced issue with ibus on skyte to type words with accent like this: áéíóú ?
[16:57] <Diegao> *skype
[16:58] <OerHeks> nuke1989, you can check with 'verify local data' in transmission
[16:59] <daftykins> ej: this is 4 years old...
[16:59] <ej> daftykins, ?
[16:59] <ej> my comp is 8 years old
[16:59] <daftykins> ej: the google code project, it's 4 years old. there is not an ubuntu desktop release still supported that is that old.
[17:00] <ej> so .. i still have a problem?
[17:00] <daftykins> ej: probably nothing to do with that. you haven't even said what you're trying to get working :)
[17:00] <ej> i need to find  anewr problem?
[17:00] <daftykins> right now i don't even know what you're talking about
[17:01] <ej> i have aenternal sound card with a know issue theres no mixer control for alsamixer somthing to do with keyvard keys or somthing
[17:02] <daftykins> external? it has nothing to do with the laptop model then
[17:02] <ej> internal sry..
[17:02] <ej> usb
[17:02] <daftykins> internal USB? i think you're very confused
[17:02] <EriC^^> lol
[17:02] <ej> no i just dont have the words..
[17:02] <olorin12> daftykins thnx for help I'll just use command line and the software web page and wait for Software Centre to fix itself
[17:02] <olorin12> cheers
[17:03] <ej> please i ve don alot of wasted research !
[17:03] <EriC^^> ej: no such thing
[17:03] <ej> hours... on a sound card?
[17:03] <Diegao> anyone here faced issue with ibus on Sky to type words with accent like this: áéíóú ?
[17:04] <Diegao> *Skype
[17:04] <ej> i can configure a vpn but this is over my head!
[17:05] <ej> linux has a hard time configuring the jack ouput and internal mic
[17:05] <daftykins> ej: please stop spamming, collect your thoughts and type one question on one line once you understand the problem you're facing
[17:05] <ej> oh god mabey its me..!!
[17:05] <ej> ok..
[17:06] <ej> sry.
[17:07] <Marc____> Hi folks.  I have a Ubuntu 14.04 drive that refuses to boot.  I would like to find the Desktop directory on it.  I've booted with a Live CD.  The drive's /home/ dir is empty.
[17:07] <Marc____> Any ideas?
[17:08] <EriC^^> Marc____: sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:08] <EriC^^> paste the link here
[17:09] <Marc____> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/7s9j
[17:09] <teward> Marc____: was /home on its own partition?
[17:10] <Marc____> teward: I recall messing with that, trying to move it to another drive, but can't remember where I got to with the project (not main PC)
[17:10] <EriC^^> Marc____: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[17:10] <Marc____> EriC^^: The drive is mounted
[17:10] <EriC^^> Marc____: ls -l /mnt what do you see?
[17:12] <Marc____> EriC^^: I see the whole boot drive
[17:12] <Marc____> with an empty home dir
[17:12] <EriC^^> Marc____: sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/home
[17:12] <EriC^^> Marc____: why isn't it booting anymore?
[17:12] <EriC^^> you can reinstall grub if you want
[17:13] <Marc____> EriC^^: I see it now, thanks
[17:14] <Marc____> EriC^^: The drive is 7 years old, bad sectors, etc, going to replace it.  I got the 'trying to read/write outside hd0' error on boot.
[17:14] <ej> daftykins,  how dare u say im confused this issue is all over linux.. ive spent hours going over this sh*t and u jump me like im im stupid...
[17:14] <daftykins> ej: i think you might want to calm down a little bit, you're taking this personally.
[17:15] <ej> i am!
[17:15] <Marc____> EriC^^: So I can see the file in terminal, any idea how to mount it in the GUI?
[17:15] <kevdog> you should just visit this channel more regularly. Your problem with your drive -- everyone has had it!
[17:15] <ej> im heated!
[17:15] <daftykins> ej: take it elsewhere and come back when you're calm please.
[17:15] <ej> no offence plz.
[17:16] <EriC^^> Marc____: you can navigate in nautilus to /mnt/home
[17:16] <kevdog> @Marc___ This is linux man -- the command line is king!
[17:16] <ej> ok ..
[17:16] <Hercules> can any of the ubuntu volunteers that can send me an live cd ? I cannot get an ISO because internet is too slow and I am of 13 years old, so can't get one ordered.
[17:17] <kevdog> Anyone know how to connect to freenode over SSL?
[17:17] <EriC^^> Hercules: use a download manager
[17:18] <morty696> hello
[17:18] <Marc____> EriC^^: Thanks a bunch, saved the day.
[17:19] <morty696> ive just install kubuntu and want to install all the kali linux tools on my system, is there a repository or script?
[17:19] <EriC^^> Marc____: no problem
[17:20] <genii> Hercules: Your best option in this case is to use a torrenting program. It can stop and resume the download of the ISO and even if your internet is very slow, it will eventually get it.
[17:20] <morty696> hello ive just install kubuntu and want to installed all the kali linux tools on my system, is there a repository or script?
[17:21] <morty696> anyone?
[17:21] <Hercules> genii: then it will take months.
[17:21] <Hercules> 700 mb is aot.
[17:22] <Hercules> alot*
[17:22] <Hercules> for an 40 kbps dial-up modem.
[17:22] <squinty> Hercules:   also there might be a LUG (Linux User Group) in your area.  google for those words and the name of where you live.  Most LUG's give out dvd's too (or will burn a copy for ya)
[17:22] <genii> Hercules: Probably more like 4-5 days instead of months.
[17:23] <genii> squinty: Not a bad idea.
[17:23] <OerHeks> morty696, we do not support, ask in the kali channels
[17:23] <Hercules> squinty: there is lug but its for only the people work in it.
[17:23] <OerHeks> !kali
[17:24] <Hercules> I tried to get one but they won't gave.
[17:24] <morty696> well id like to know a pentesting or security repository for ubuntu?
[17:24] <genii> Hercules: You might also consider downloading it someplace where the connection is faster, like a Starbucks or dedicated cyber cafe
[17:25] <pbx> morty696, is there software you're looking for that's not in the main repos?
[17:25] <Hercules> In a location I live there is no things like that.
[17:25] <Hercules> Only Shared Cuber Cafe's are there and they have ugly speed.
[17:25] <Hercules> Cyber*
[17:25] <morty696> yes all the pentesting tools that are in kali linux
[17:25] <kazdax> do you live in fiji ?
[17:25] <Hercules> no
[17:26] <Hercules> India.
[17:26] <kazdax> yea that was my secound guess
[17:26] <kazdax> the airtel internet is preety faster
[17:26] <kazdax> just go to a better cyber cafe
[17:26] <genii> !in
[17:26] <Hercules> There are fiber internets too.
[17:26] <kazdax> yes
[17:26] <kazdax> where in India are you ?
[17:26] <pbx> morty696, you may get better leads from a security-oriented list of group
[17:26] <Hercules> I keep on travelling that's why I use dial-up connection.
[17:27] <Hercules> Vodafone is really stupid at it.
[17:27] <kazdax> ahh ..get one of those usb sticks
[17:27] <Hercules> kazdax: Kanpur, Uttar Pradesh, India.
[17:27] <kazdax> docomo i think
[17:27] <Hercules> docomo doesn't works here.
[17:27] <genii> Hercules: If you go to the #ubuntu-in channel the bot indicates is the official channel for India, you may find someone local there who could either send you a DVD, or assist in some other way
[17:27] <morty696> where do i find that?
[17:27] <kazdax> does he need an ubuntu CD ?
[17:27] <kazdax> DVD
[17:28] <Hercules> yeah.
[17:28] <Hercules> kazdax: You from ?
[17:28] <pbx> morty696, i'll leave the googling to you but e.g. comp.os.linux.security
[17:28] <pbx> morty696, also, check this out - https://github.com/madmantm/ubuntu-pentest-tools/blob/master/ubuntu-pentest-tools.sh
[17:28] <kazdax> punjab
[17:29] <Hercules> kazdax: nice, do u got an disc ?
[17:29] <kazdax> well i dont live in punjab anymore
[17:29] <kazdax> i am in the states now
[17:29] <Hercules> oh
[17:29] <pbx> morty696, and http://www.backbox.org/
[17:29] <kazdax> you can get the ubuntu dvd by purschaisng linux magazines
[17:29] <kazdax> where are quite wide spread in India
[17:29] <genii> Hercules: Canonical sends each local Ubuntu group physical copies of each new Long Term Support release. I'm sure the #ubuntu-in people can either send you one or arrange another way for you to receive one.
[17:29] <kazdax> yea i agree
[17:29] <kazdax> genii is right
[17:30] <kazdax> they will help you out there
[17:30] <Hercules> genii: They aren't active.
[17:30] <kazdax> dont you have a book store there ?
[17:30] <kazdax> go look for books on linux ...they have ubuntu dvd that comes with them
[17:30] <kazdax> those magazines cost like 2 dollars
[17:31] <genii> kazdax: This is one of the reasons they should have kept the Ship-It program going :(
[17:33] <kazdax> http://www.labnol.org/internet/ubuntu-in-india-get-free-ubuntu-cds-and-dvds/630/
[17:33] <kazdax> apparenlty you can order ubuntu CD And they will ship it for free of charge
[17:33] <kazdax> yea they dont still do that genii ??
[17:34] <kazdax> Intel for example .. sends abot 6 to 8 books in a huge box..to anyone interested..free of charge
[17:35] <daftykins> kazdax: interested in what?
[17:35] <genii> kazdax: I'm not sure when that article was written. AFAIK Ship-It is finished except to LoCos
[17:35] <kazdax> the intel manuals ..about there processors and the instruction set
[17:38] <genii> Hercules: Another alternative is to be active in your local Ubuntu group, find out who the old contacts were, etcetera, where the DVDs were being sent before, if it can be changed to another address where people are active instead.
[17:41] <earnThis> anyone know a good reference/blog/article explaining a basic openstack hardware setup i.e. phyiscal servers, switches, routers etc. ?
[17:42] <nkmani> #drupal-consultants
[17:42] <daftykins> earnThis: not even vaguely relevant to this channel
[17:42] <IPPhoneGuy> earnThis: #openstack
[17:46] <sfyn> hello
[17:46] <sfyn> I am encountering issues with wine gnutls support
[17:48] <skift> does anyone in here have ubuntu/linux on a lenove x1 carbon? im wondering if the special touch sensitive button row is supported
[17:51] <bieb> I installed Moodle via apt-get, how do I remove it now? what is the best way to uninstall?
[17:52] <decci> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9542420/
[17:52] <decci> How to fix it?
[17:53] <mbeasley> i have a logitech touchpad mouse. is there a straightforward way to disable inertial scrolling through something like xmodmap or some other config? I still want to be able to scroll - just without the inertial bit.
[18:03] <saurabhkoolkumar> hi
[18:04] <squinty> decci:  notice the space   /src modules (line 5 in your paste)   could be that space needs to be delimited (ie  \  )   not sure how one goes about that though as I know very little re compiling
[18:05] <Danielle23>  Watch Me Suck Real Big Dick On My Site http://bitly.com/1nx3K4c
[18:06] <squinty> !ops   Danielle23
[18:07] <zebra111> squinty danielle23 is already gone
[18:08] <squinty> zebra111:  heh saw that after I typed  they might want to ban that rascal anyways
[18:24] <decci> Facing this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/9542769/
[18:24] <decci> "Cannot compile bnx2fc on 3.13.0-30-generic"
[18:31] <no_gravity> Hello! Often when im on a machine via ssh, i wish i could just type "sshcopy /local/myfile ./" and the file from my local machine would be transfered to the remote machine into the current directory. how do you guys go about this?
[18:31] <EriC^^> no_gravity: scp
[18:35] <daftykins> no_gravity: scp can push and pull files over a link, pretty simple stuff but the command syntax can be a challenge for new users
[18:35] <daftykins> scp foo user@host:/path/to/put/foo
[18:35] <no_gravity> good luck guessing the path on the remote machine...
[18:36] <daftykins> no_gravity: so SSH in and do a 'pull' instead.
[18:37] <daftykins> scp user@host@/path/to/foo .
[18:37] <daftykins> oops
[18:37] <daftykins> scp user@host:/path/to/foo .
[18:37]  * EriC^^ bets no_gravity 's going to complain about guessing the path on the local machine
[18:37] <daftykins> :D
[18:38] <no_gravity> what i do is "echo $PWD" on the remote machine and c&p it.
[18:38] <daftykins> that's horrible
[18:38] <daftykins> also, why not just "pwd" alone?
[18:39] <no_gravity> oh, didnt know pwd
[18:41] <Nessuno> where i'm?
[18:41] <EriC^^> italy
[18:41] <EriC^^> :P
[18:42] <DJones> Nessuno: here do you think you are?
[18:42] <Nessuno> serious
[18:42] <EriC^^> we are sentient programs in your ubuntu
[18:43] <Nessuno> like a virus?
[18:43] <EriC^^> no, like sentient programs
[18:43] <DJones> Nessuno: I am being serious, only you know which IRC channels you've joined
[18:43] <DJones> !behelpful | EriC^^
[18:43] <daftykins> DJones: i think it was the typo that confused
[18:43] <Nessuno> funny
[18:43] <Nessuno> i hope
[18:43] <EriC^^> ubottu: was the first that was freed, he set the rest of us free
[18:43] <daftykins> DJones: now now, your comment was equally useless
[18:44] <EriC^^> ( he's kind of old now so he's lost it )
[18:44] <daftykins> !ot | Nessuno
[18:45] <Nessuno> i have a question for the sentient programs: what happened to Tor browser?
[18:47] <waressearcher2> frankly.pitas.com that web page generates dialog box with random text and button "OK", I press "OK" but it opens another one and I can't close it or access web browser, is there any way to get rid of it without killing web browser ?
[18:47] <daftykins> Nessuno: discontinued i thought
[18:47] <morty696> can someone help im after a security/pentesting repository for ubuntu, thats all
[18:47] <daftykins> morty696: no, go to the channels you were told to find earlier.
[18:48] <morty696> what channels?
[18:48] <daftykins> morty696: ones relating to kali, perhaps
[18:50] <morty696> i tried adding the kali repository but half of the programs have dependency problems
[18:50] <teward> !kali
[18:50] <teward> boo
[18:50] <Nessuno> how is it possible?
[18:51] <daftykins> morty696: that's because you can't mix distros. now as i said, go install kali if you want to use it :)
[18:51] <teward> morty696: if you're having issues with a Kali program or their repos, take it to their support channel.
[18:51] <teward> Nessuno: I believe it was removed because it kept getting updated, but I can go digging in the repos
[18:51] <morty696> i have kali installed in another vmware machine
[18:52] <daftykins> morty696: ok so go join the above please.
[18:52] <Nessuno> Teward: what are you thinking about japan and deepweb?
[18:52] <morty696> i just want all the kali apps in kubuntu because i prefer kubuntu and was thinking of duel booting it on my system with win7
[18:53] <Nessuno> in the last year happened so much strange events
[18:53] <teward> morty696: you can't mix distros.  Install Kali and then put KDE on if they have it
[18:53] <Nessuno> and now
[18:53] <T3> guys, I just apt-get install tomcat7, but tomcat7 service won't start (/etc/init.d/tomcat7 start/stop/status) and /var/log/tomcat7/catalina.out has nothing in it. What else should I look at? Any hints?
[18:53] <teward> Nessuno: that's offtopic here
[18:53] <Nessuno> i dont' now
[18:53] <teward> !offtopic | Nessuno
[18:53] <Nessuno> where can i find it?
[18:53] <morty696> i tried that, but its too slow and not very stable
[18:53] <morty696> kubuntu is much quicker
[18:53] <skift> i have a bluetooth usb dongle, which in windows i would normally install from here sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/java
[18:54] <skift> oope
[18:54] <skift> oops
[18:54] <OerHeks> !kali | morty696
[18:54] <morty696> i dont get it,  ubuntu/kubuntu are such popular systems, why is there not a security/pentesting repo for it?
[18:55] <daftykins> morty696: maybe you just haven't looked for one.
[18:55] <skift> the dirver for windows is here. http://www.broadcom.com/support/bluetooth/update.php
[18:55] <morty696> i have, cant find one anywhere
[18:55] <morty696> i trying to find a straight forward list of kali apps but i cant find that either
[18:55] <skift> but i cant seem to get it to work in ubuntu. when i type 'lsusb' it just shows as 'dynex'
[18:56] <daftykins> morty696: for the last time. join #kali-linux and go and ask them.
[18:56] <morty696> ok
[18:56] <OerHeks> morty696, ask in their channel about the kali repos, i am sure they exist.
[18:56] <morty696> they do exist, but half the programs wont install because of dependency issues
[18:57] <fedorafan> hey, how to get the workingpath of pwd as substring, like "cp pwd/whatever ."
[18:57] <k1l_> fedorafan: ./whatever
[18:57] <EriC^^> fedorafan: cp $(pwd)/whatever
[18:57] <OerHeks> morty696, that is why we send you there, we don't have influence on them.
[18:57] <fedorafan> cool 2 ways, the pointvariant didnt think about it k1l_ thx, EriC^^ yeah that was what I searched for, thx
[18:58] <k1l_> morty696: the depencies issues are not caused by the ubuntu side. its caused by the kali side. so talk to them to fix that. we cant do anything there. (we cant make ubuntu be nice to all the different wallbuntus)
[18:59] <cwert> It appears that the mod_imagemap Apache module was removed in Trusty. It used to be included with the apache-2.2-bin package (mod_imagemap.so) in earlier Ubuntu releases.  How can I tell why it was dropped? (was it intentional for a specific reason, or was it overlooked)  It is still listed on the Apache site as an available module.
[19:02] <Guest44906> hello
[19:03] <daftykins> Guest44906: hi, got a question?
[19:03] <daftykins> !find mod_imagemap
[19:03] <daftykins> !info apache2-doc trusty
[19:04] <IPPhoneGuy> anyone have any experience forcing monitor resolution past 1080p for HDMI connected displays?
[19:05] <teward> cwert: have you tried enabling the module, though?  (I can't find where it was 'removed')...
[19:05] <Guest44906> you have been answered daftykins
[19:05] <daftykins> Guest44906: ah so nonsense is your game, goodbye then
[19:06] <daftykins> IPPhoneGuy: you can't go higher than the native resolution.
[19:07] <IPPhoneGuy> daftykins: duh :P  I know that - I have an ASUS monitor who's native resolution is 2560x1440 but is limited @ 1080P
[19:08] <cwert> The a2enmod man page ironically uses imagemap as the example for how to enable a module.  (which is I assume why people are pointing to apache2-doc) But the module itself no longer exists as far as I can tell.  I’ve tried enabling it, and I’ve searched packages.ubuntu.com.
[19:09] <daftykins> IPPhoneGuy: ok well that's the detail your question was lacking! does it not have any better input types? what's your graphics card and driver?
[19:10] <rexta> how do i change the installation path to another hard drive?
[19:10] <daftykins> rexta: by selecting manual install at the partitioner stage
[19:10] <daftykins> also known as "Something else"
[19:10] <fedorafan> hey, if I want to compress a file with tar I need the permission to read it right
[19:10] <fedorafan> user using tar
[19:10] <PsychoBoB> hi
[19:11] <rexta> thx
[19:11] <CalebW> Hello, I'm trying to compile something and I keep getting "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXinerima", but I have libxinerama-dev installed.
[19:11] <daftykins> fedorafan: yeah, since otherwise you can't read the file to write it into an archive
[19:12] <IPPhoneGuy> GeForce GTX 780 Ti - 2 monitors - 1 displayport - 1 hdmi (monitors are identical) - running the latest binaries from nvidia on 14.04 which would be 331.113
[19:12] <fedorafan> ahhh brillant, its totally logical, thx daftykins
[19:12] <daftykins> CalebW: xinerama is not the same as xinerima ?
[19:12] <CalebW> Yup just noticed that myself right now. Feel like a dork.
[19:12] <daftykins> IPPhoneGuy: is it a v1.4+ HDMI cable?
[19:12] <fedorafan> is it possible to chmod all files in a treestructure ./* all there
[19:13] <bekks> fedorafan: Sure.
[19:13] <fedorafan> bekks could you tell me the commandline please
[19:13] <IPPhoneGuy> daftykins: yup
[19:13] <bekks> fedorafan: chmod -R, like chmod recursively.
[19:13] <daftykins> IPPhoneGuy: ok install 'pastebinit' then run "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log" in a terminal
[19:15] <fedorafan> bekks thx will try now
[19:15] <pocc> test
[19:15] <noobix> i am installing ubuntu from mini.iso .... what is the difference between "UBUNTU DESKTOP" and "UBUNTU GNOME DESKTOP"? it comes up in choosing packages to install
[19:16] <daftykins> pocc: test failed, you used a support channel.
[19:16] <daftykins> noobix: non-unity, if in doubt don't pick it
[19:16] <bekks> noobix: The former is Ubuntu using Unity, the latter is Ubuntu using Gnome.
[19:16] <IPPhoneGuy> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9543072/
[19:16] <k1l_> noobix: gnome desktop means gnome shell (gnome3)
[19:16] <noobix> ah ok... which is default?
[19:16] <daftykins> nity.
[19:16] <k1l_> unity,
[19:16] <daftykins> *unity.
[19:16] <noobix> thanks
[19:17] <IPPhoneGuy> daftykins: it did the default resolution in windows - fyi
[19:19] <n3vtelen> my network card lights turn off at work on ubuntu
[19:20] <n3vtelen> and turn on with restart
[19:20] <n3vtelen> and after a moment turn off again
[19:20] <bekks> n3vtelen: And why are the lights themselves are important to you?
[19:20] <daftykins> IPPhoneGuy: yeah, check nvidia-settings and that it doesn't need to be dropped to a sub-60Hz refresh to use 2560x1440 over HDMI
[19:21] <n3vtelen> my internet and connection gone
[19:21] <n3vtelen> :|
[19:21] <daftykins> IPPhoneGuy: lines 200-208 seem relevant, one selected a 165MHz pixel clock
[19:21] <n3vtelen> when this thing happens
[19:22] <daftykins> IPPhoneGuy: as per wikipedia (a fine source of course :P) "The maximum pixel clock rate for HDMI 1.0 was 165 MHz, which was sufficient to allow 1080p and WUXGA (1920×1200) at 60 Hz."
[19:23] <IPPhoneGuy> daftykins: the odd thing is that it worked in windows without an issue - I just have a hard time believing its anything other than something configuration related
[19:23] <daftykins> IPPhoneGuy: go check if it runs a lower refresh to drive that res over HDMI
[19:24] <pocc> test failed? I don't get it
[19:24] <daftykins> pocc: basically please don't use this channel for silly test messages again please :P #test is for that
[19:24] <daftykins> IPPhoneGuy: well what i'm pointing out is where the config is wrong :)
[19:25] <pocc> thanks daftykins
[19:25] <_littleb> hi people, I have an asus vivopc with a rtl8821ae wlan/bluetooth card and that drops out from time to time. The only way is to get my wlan back up and running is to deactivate and activate it. I wanted to know if someone could help me out.
[19:25] <IPPhoneGuy> daftykins: I'm browsing all through the nvidia settings and I dont see anything where I can adjust anything in this in the config :(
[19:25] <daftykins> !realtek
[19:26] <daftykins> IPPhoneGuy: i'd like you to confirm the vertical refresh in Windows first
[19:26] <IPPhoneGuy> grr - that's a reboot :P
[19:26] <IPPhoneGuy> hehe
[19:26] <daftykins> oh woe is yo
[19:26] <daftykins> u
[19:26] <IPPhoneGuy> yah yah yah
[19:26] <IPPhoneGuy> I know
[19:30] <HellMind> When I use pptp client it adds a route "190.210.182.172 dev lo  scope link  src 192.168.0.1"
[19:33] <IPPhoneGuy> daftykins: sure enough 2560x1440@59Hz
[19:33] <IPPhoneGuy> good call
[19:33] <daftykins> well, 59 is as close enough to 60 as can be
[19:33] <daftykins> they probably mean the same thing in nvidia-settings
[19:34] <guig33k> impossible to create a new wallet on the packaged electrum version on ubuntu 14.10 :(
[19:34] <guig33k> someone can help me
[19:34] <guig33k> ???
[19:35] <lukasz> Hello hello. A question. I just installed xubuntu-desktop side by side with unity. After logging out and switch sessions to xubuntu, my settings do not appear to be saved.
[19:35] <lukasz> Should I just wipe it and start fresh?
[19:35] <k1l_> guig33k: what version?
[19:36] <IPPhoneGuy> daftykins: any other ideas?  I'm really at a loss, it just doesnt make a lot of sense :(
[19:37] <daftykins> IPPhoneGuy: no refresh controls at all in nvidia-settings huh?
[19:38] <lukasz> IPPhoneGuy what are you fighting with there, I have spent much time running X on maximum logging level to debug stuff :)
[19:39] <IPPhoneGuy> daftykins: not that I see
[19:39] <IPPhoneGuy> lukasz: getting a monitor to 2560x1440 (native resolution) instead of being stuck at 1080P on an HDMI cable
[19:39] <daftykins> lukasz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9543072/ line 209 on is interesting, IPPhoneGuy gets no 2560x1440 over HDMI on a two-screen setup, i see lines referring to a single-link only clock rate
[19:39] <HellMind> No one uses pptp anymore :(?
[19:40] <lukasz> Oh
[19:40] <daftykins> HellMind: you didn't ask a question, you made a STATEMENT.
[19:40] <daftykins> IPPhoneGuy: i think i'd ditch v331 and try a newer driver from nvidia direct (though it's not usually advisable to go non-repo)
[19:40] <lukasz> IPPhoneGuy are you getting correct modes from the monitor?
[19:40] <HellMind> When I use pptp client it adds a route "190.210.182.172 dev lo  scope link  src 192.168.0.1" where pptp adds that rule, there must be a way to cancel that order, Do you know it?
[19:41] <daftykins> lukasz: it's all in the above Xorg log :P
[19:41] <daftykins> HellMind: use network-manager to specify the PPTP link and then tell it to remove the default route in settings, perhaps
[19:41] <cryptopsy> sprunge.us/H2Xj i'm trying to fix this error that occurs only with systemd but not with openrc
[19:42] <HellMind> daftykins: where should I look for network-manager config?
[19:42] <lukasz> daftykins, got ya
[19:42] <daftykins> HellMind: the tray app
[19:42] <HellMind> are you saying using networks/interfaces file?
[19:42] <championofcyrodi> Hi.  How do i change the default user when prompted by unity for root permissions.  Like when adding a printer or installing new software from the software center?
[19:43] <daftykins> HellMind: oh is this a CLI only server?
[19:43] <lukasz> IPPhoneGuy, I assume you dont get the option to pick 2560x1440 from the Display settings eh
[19:43] <OerHeks> cryptopsy, H2Xj not found.
[19:43] <HellMind> daftykins, that rout I show its added before the connection got stablished
[19:43] <HellMind> I got ssh only
[19:43] <daftykins> HellMind: sorry you don't make any sense to me
[19:43] <cryptopsy> sprunge.us/eXaJ
[19:44] <championofcyrodi> e.g. during ubuntu install, i created the user 'foobar'.   Now, even though I can log in with LDAP and my user can 'sudo', whenever I install software or add printer I am prompted to enter the password for the 'foobar' user instead of the user i am currently logged in as.
[19:44] <PsychoBoB> love ubuntu
[19:44] <PsychoBoB> ubuntu love me
[19:44] <ProWilly35> ...
[19:44] <HellMind> daftykins: its a cli only server, but the route that it adds is preventing to connect to the pptp server
[19:44] <daftykins> HellMind: #ubuntu-server
[19:45] <IPPhoneGuy> lukasz: no that option is not there ;(
[19:45] <PsychoBoB> ProWilly35 do you love UBUNTU too?
[19:45] <k1l_> PsychoBoB: ProWilly35 lets focus on technical ubuntu support in here. thanks
[19:45] <lukasz> IPPhoneGuy, have you tried this with single monitor?
[19:45] <daftykins> IPPhoneGuy: up a screenshot of nvidia-settings on the display configs pages
[19:45] <ProWilly35> OK, primero yo no dije eso, y segundo hablo español
[19:46] <k1l_> !es | ProWilly35
[19:46] <daftykins> lukasz: IPPhoneGuy - that's a good idea, does it drive the native res when the HDMI one is connected alone? (cold boot with just it)
[19:46] <PsychoBoB> k1l_ It's a bot?
[19:46] <OerHeks> cryptopsy, gentoo ?
[19:46] <PsychoBoB> ProWilly35 are you a bot?
[19:47] <PsychoBoB> right?
[19:47] <k1l_> !ot | PsychoBoB
[19:48] <lukasz> IPPhoneGuy, daftykins yeah you should check this - I have a distinct feeling this is an issue with the graphics bandwidth
[19:48] <IPPhoneGuy> lukasz / daftykins :  http://imgur.com/YQELdG8,kxMzc3k
[19:48] <ProWilly35> KIll uso PC de gobierno arg. Sistema con windows e inicie huayra por error cuando quise iniciar WIndows... Lamento La confusion y no soy un bot
[19:48] <lukasz> IPPhoneGuy, so single display will do 1440p?
[19:49] <PsychoBoB> so rud
[19:49] <IPPhoneGuy> lukasz: I can reboot to windows and both of them work fine at 2560x1440
[19:49] <PsychoBoB> rude with me
[19:49] <IPPhoneGuy> lukasz: one is displayport, the other is hdmi
[19:49] <otiant> CHOLBY RULES SUSE IS A BETTER VERSION OF LINUX THAN UBUNTU!!!!!1
[19:49] <otiant> CHOLBY RULES SUSE IS A BETTER VERSION OF LINUX THAN UBUNTU!!!!!1!
[19:49] <otiant> CHOLBY RULES SUSE IS A BETTER VERSION OF LINUX THAN UBUNTU!!!!!1!!
[19:49] <otiant> CHOLBY RULES SUSE IS A BETTER VERSION OF LINUX THAN UBUNTU!!!!!1!!!
[19:49] <otiant> CHOLBY RULES SUSE IS A BETTER VERSION OF LINUX THAN UBUNTU!!!!!1!!!!
[19:49] <otiant> CHOLBY RULES SUSE IS A BETTER VERSION OF LINUX THAN UBUNTU!!!!!1!!!!!
[19:49] <unopaste> otiant you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[19:49] <lukasz> Yeah okay
[19:50] <PsychoBoB> ?
[19:50] <lukasz> IPPhoneGuy,
[19:50] <daftykins> IPPhoneGuy: so when you click on the HDMI one, does the "auto" dropdown list for "resolution" not list higher than 1920?
[19:50] <lukasz> IPPhoneGuy, Ive read about this - there are serious issues with driving beyond 1080p over HDMI
[19:50] <PsychoBoB> I dont' understand it
[19:50] <lukasz> IPPhoneGuy, get a dual link DVI cord and try that, I bet it will work
[19:50] <IPPhoneGuy> lukasz: nope
[19:50] <k1l_> ProWilly35: Inglés se habla aquí. que el mensaje de ubottu para un canal español
[19:50] <lukasz> IPPhoneGuy, just on nix
[19:50] <IPPhoneGuy> lukasz: that's odd
[19:51] <ProWilly35> BonJour :D
[19:51] <k1l_> PsychoBoB: if you dont want to be banned stop that offtopic now
[19:51] <PsychoBoB> I don't to be banned
[19:51] <lukasz> IPPhoneGuy, I have a 1600p display had a similar issue.
[19:51] <lukasz> IPPhoneGuy, on OSX you cannot drive beyond 1080p with HDMI either
[19:52] <PsychoBoB> k1l_ i do not speak english
[19:52] <championofcyrodi> i posted my issue here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2257071&p=13188639#post13188639
[19:52] <lukasz> IPPhoneGuy, this is why Apple shoves DisplayPort into their MacBooks instead of HDMI
[19:52] <lukasz> Lastly, I have seen Windows 7 running on MBP driving 1440p over HDMI ... but you cannot do the same in OSX :P
[19:52] <ProWilly35> Salut les gens comme ils sont :D
[19:52] <daftykins> lukasz: mmm, i think there might be an nvidia driver / kernel issue with detecting HDMI screens that are capable of greater than single link operation, if i'm reading that Xorg log right
[19:53] <championofcyrodi> hdmi doesnt have bandwidth to support resolutions higher than 1080p
[19:53] <championofcyrodi> you need display port for higher res.
[19:53] <hannolom> Hi does anybody have experiance with installing Ubuntu server on a HP proliant DL380 gen3 or 4?
[19:53] <championofcyrodi> or dual link dvi
[19:53] <championofcyrodi> hannolom: yes
[19:53] <lukasz> daftykins, you need dual link to go beyond 1080p ... so thats the issue
[19:54] <daftykins> lukasz: yeah but i'm not 100% if that is indeed the failing, since there are so many labelling changes in outputs in the Xorg log, makes it a pain to read
[19:54] <championofcyrodi> i'm running on an HP proliant dl380 but its a 7th gen
[19:54] <IPPhoneGuy> lukasz: uggh - wish this card had 2x displayport instead of 1
[19:54] <daftykins> hannolom: might be better to just ask the specific question
[19:54] <lukasz> daftykins, I had this issue with one of my devs - he demanded a 1440p display for all his NetBeans on his Mac, he got it and it would not go beyond 1080p over HDMI, we got him a DisplayPort cable and the issue went away
[19:55] <lukasz> IPPhoneGuy, yeah, but I seriously think you should try the dual-link DVI cable idea
[19:55] <IPPhoneGuy> lukasz: yah i just hate to have to buy a cable because linux cant do that
[19:55] <championofcyrodi> lukasz is right, dual-link DVI will support higher than 1080p
[19:55] <hannolom_> sorry i'm back
[19:55] <daftykins> lukasz: mmm, all that does is says OS X has issues too though :D
[19:56] <daftykins> i think you guys are missing the point here. it *should* work because both HDMI 1.3+ and Dual-link DVI use TMDS signalling
[19:56] <daftykins> so it's the negotiation that goes wrong
[19:56] <daftykins> IPPhoneGuy: i still say try the HDMI screen on its' own, then update driver if not
[19:57] <hannolom_> I am in need or advice on ubuntu server install on a gen3 or 4 Proliant server
[19:57] <lukasz> daftykins, I thought yo need 1.4 to do 1080p+
[19:57] <IPPhoneGuy> sorry daftykins: if I try just HDMI it stays at 1080p
[19:57] <bekks> hannolom_: So whats not working?
[19:57] <daftykins> hannolom_: so ask?
[19:58] <hannolom_> I Started installing Servet 14.04 on the gen 4, but GUI not working
[19:58] <daftykins> lukasz: assuming wikipedia isn't lying - "HDMI 1.3 increased that to 340 MHz, which allows for higher resolution (such as WQXGA, 2560×1600) across a single digital link."
[19:58] <Pici> hannolom_: 14.04 server has no gui.
[19:58] <bekks> hannolom_: Ubuntu server does not have a gui.
[19:58] <Pici> none of the server installs do.
[19:58] <lukasz> IPPhoneGuy, can you paste the screenshot of nvidia-settings, specifically GPU 0 > DFP-1 and GPU 0 > DFP-4 pages please.
[19:58] <hannolom_> then I tried 12.04 on a gen 3 - but installing Ubuntu-desktop seems impossable
[19:59] <narthur> Any idea why an Ubuntu boot disk wouldn't boot on a Mac? All I'm getting is "i8042: No controller found"
[19:59] <bekks> hannolom_: Ubuntu server has no gui - so could you please clarify what you are doing exactly?
[20:00] <captine> nardev, are you using the mac edition?  There is a specific iso, if I recall, for mac
[20:00] <OerHeks> hannolom_, you need to install hp pack http://www.gpaterno.com/2013/02/14/hp-proliant-support-pack-now-management-component-pack-for-ubuntu/ this is for precise 12.04
[20:00] <hannolom_> I'm installing server and Ubuntu-desktop for GUI
[20:00] <mefistofeles> hey, btw, would you happen to know if ubuntu/debian has some kind of limit respect memory consumption? I'm getting Operating System Error: Cannot allocate memory in ubuntu but I'm not getting this with ArchLinux... any ideas? (it's my own code)
[20:00] <mefistofeles> it uses a lot of RAM, of course
[20:00] <captine> narthur, I am running 14.04 on my mac and used the
[20:00] <daftykins> mefistofeles: maybe your install has no swap?
[20:00] <lukasz> daftykins, I will take Wikis word for it. Youre most likely right. Reading his logs it looks like DFP-1 which is the HDMI is doing only 165 MHz pixel clock over Single Link so that would be that.
[20:00] <mefistofeles> daftykins: actually my arch has no swap xD ubuntu does
[20:00] <daftykins> lukasz: *nod* that was my take too
[20:01] <daftykins> mefistofeles: ah well.
[20:01] <mefistofeles> daftykins: that's not the problem since it's not swapping
[20:01] <narthur> captine: Haven't been able to find the mac edition. Where's the best place to look for that?
[20:01] <ben_g> hi
[20:01] <hannolom_> Cool - will give that a try - Thanks
[20:02] <mefistofeles> daftykins: same happens with debian
[20:02] <ben_g> The sound trough my headphone is so soft it's barely hearable, while all volume settings are set to the maximum.
[20:02] <IPPhoneGuy> uploading pics
[20:02] <ben_g> What could be the problem with that?
[20:02] <IPPhoneGuy> http://imgur.com/38kKhIH,YO3j799
[20:02] <IPPhoneGuy> there you go daftykins and lukasz
[20:03] <Blaberus> .
[20:03] <daftykins> IPPhoneGuy: yep confirms it, single link TMDS over the HDMI = it thinks it can't do higher
[20:04] <IPPhoneGuy> meaning what?
[20:04] <daftykins> wow you mean you don't grasp it even after this entire convo? :)
[20:04] <lukasz> IPPhoneGuy, how old is your HDMI card
[20:04] <ben_g> I'm pretty sure something software-related must be wrong, since it worked just fine yesterday
[20:04] <IPPhoneGuy> lukasz: it's relatively new, it's a GTX780
[20:04] <daftykins> lukasz: the GTX 780Ti is quite new :>
[20:05] <lukasz> IPPhoneGuy, this is telling you the link between your PC and the display does not have the bandwidth
[20:05] <IPPhoneGuy> pretty high end card :P
[20:05] <lukasz> IPPhoneGuy, err I meant CORD not CARD :P
[20:05] <IPPhoneGuy> oh
[20:05] <IPPhoneGuy> cord came with the monitor :P
[20:05] <lukasz> daftykins, yeah I meant to type in cord. the card is certainly new enough.
[20:05] <IPPhoneGuy> I can try another but it worked in windows :P
[20:05] <IPPhoneGuy> lol
[20:05] <lukasz> IPPhoneGuy, ok that should be new enough
[20:05] <lukasz> Yeah thats a good point
[20:05] <daftykins> aaaah :D
[20:05] <lukasz> This may be a driver limitation actually
[20:06] <daftykins> so update the driver already!
[20:06]  * daftykins gets impatient ;)
[20:06] <IPPhoneGuy> lol I know
[20:06] <IPPhoneGuy> I just hate to go outside of the repo
[20:06] <championofcyrodi> hannolom: i had problems w/ ubuntu desktop as well...
[20:06] <IPPhoneGuy> trying to be a good boy
[20:06] <championofcyrodi> i started w/ a server edition install...
[20:06] <championofcyrodi> then used apt to install the desktop packages afterwards
[20:06] <daftykins> IPPhoneGuy: yeah it will make things interesting every time you get a new kernel, but if needs must...
[20:06] <daftykins> IPPhoneGuy: try the manual nvidia download if you're comfy at the command line
[20:06] <daftykins> or open a guide on another device as you do it
[20:07] <lukasz> daftykins, is he on the latest stable from Nvidia?
[20:07] <IPPhoneGuy> repo is 331 and latest is 340
[20:07] <daftykins> 331 is just the newest repo one
[20:07] <daftykins> so ancient really
[20:08] <MrSavage> I don't have this in my apt-get how do I get it to be in my apt-get? http://packages.ubuntu.com/vivid/hexchat-indicator
[20:08]  * lukasz wishes he had a 1440p HDMI display so he could take a look himself
[20:09] <IPPhoneGuy> lukasz: what's the best way to drop the xserver to do the install? :P
[20:09] <ben_g> does nobody know what could be related to my headphone problem?
[20:09] <daftykins> MrSavage: you can't, it's from a new release
[20:09] <IPPhoneGuy> I'm a ubuntu server guy not a desktop guy
[20:09] <lukasz> IPPhoneGuy, I dont think you have to, just update it while it runs then reboot :)
[20:09] <daftykins> sudo service lightdm stop; IPPhoneGuy
[20:09] <daftykins> no, nvidia driver needs X stopped
[20:09] <championofcyrodi> ben_g: i had a similar issue after an update.. .turned out that the sound card was not installed anymore and i had to manually add it to /etc/modules
[20:09] <daftykins> as i say find a guide online, there are hundreds
[20:10] <ben_g> championofcyrodi: how do you do that?
[20:10] <lukasz> isnt here a repo for 340
[20:10] <D3V> to install nvidia driver from their website?
[20:11] <championofcyrodi> ben_g: what is the output of: 'sudo aplay -l'
[20:11] <lukasz> IPPhoneGuy, https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa this should work
[20:11] <daftykins> noooo xorg-edgers is horrid
[20:12] <daftykins> kill it with fire :P
[20:12] <ben_g> championofcyrodi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9543553/
[20:12]  * lukasz shrugs :)
[20:12] <championofcyrodi> ben_g, that is good... so your sound card is installed...
[20:12] <championofcyrodi> under All Settings > Sound
[20:13] <championofcyrodi> what is in the list?
[20:13] <ben_g> championofcyrodi: is it broken then? The on-board speakers work fine though.
[20:15] <daftykins> IPPhoneGuy: once you get somewhere with the driver, do give me a shout with how you get on. you're the second i've seen with this kinda quirk in so many weeks
[20:16] <IPPhoneGuy> its' really annoying
[20:16] <bashfr3ak> anyone knows why when i try to run the Software Manager nothing happens although Synaptic runs fine ? (linux mint 17)
[20:16] <IPPhoneGuy> I've got the driver, trying to figure out what the best way to boot without X, or to just drop X all together and do the install is
[20:16] <lotuspsychje> !mint | bashfr3ak
[20:17] <lotuspsychje> bashfr3ak: switch to ubuntu desktop and make your life more easy
[20:17] <daftykins> IPPhoneGuy: i already told you :) ctrl+alt+F1 to get to TTY1, log in, "sudo service lightdm stop" then chmod +x driver.run , "sudo ./driver.run"
[20:17] <IPPhoneGuy> oh my bad daftykins
[20:17] <IPPhoneGuy> missed that
[20:18] <bashfr3ak> lotuspsychje lol i miss ubuntu
[20:19] <lotuspsychje> bashfr3ak: install ubuntu 14.04 you gonna be pleased :p
[20:21] <championofcyrodi> ben_g sorry about that...
[20:22] <championofcyrodi> there should be 2 devices... one for speakers and one for headphones
[20:22] <ben_g> championofcyrodi: about what?
[20:22] <championofcyrodi> someone in real life had a question so i just ignored you.
[20:23] <ben_g> championofcyrodi: oh.
[20:25] <championofcyrodi> ben_g:  my headphone issue seemed to go away when i opened sound settings, and clicked 'test sound'
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> championofcyrodi: are you having sound issues?
[20:25] <championofcyrodi> no
[20:25] <championofcyrodi> ben_g is
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> Ahhh
[20:25] <ben_g> championofcyrodi: Do you have any idea what might be the problem if it isn't the sound card drivers?
[20:25] <championofcyrodi> i think it has to do with pulse audio and which 'output' device is being used.
[20:25] <ben_g> sorry, forgot to scroll down and missed a few lines
[20:26] <ben_g> I tried clicking test sound, but it just tells me in a very soft voice which side I clicked.
[20:26] <championofcyrodi> how many devices are listed in the 'play sound through' box
[20:26] <championofcyrodi> through the headphones?
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> ben_g: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[20:28] <ben_g> championofcyrodi: just one: the headphones
[20:28] <ben_g> ActionParsnip: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=dfeb4334e4b0741e5e9538e952d82d5d263e40e0
[20:28] <championofcyrodi> So is your issue that your headphones don't work?
[20:30] <championofcyrodi> the Analog Output should be your headphones (device 0) and your HDMI output is for sound going through hdmi (device 3)
[20:30] <championofcyrodi> you want to click/highlight Analog Device in the sounds.
[20:30] <ben_g> championofcyrodi: the headphones do work, but the volume is extremely low (only barely hearable) even when the volume is all the way up
[20:30] <lotuspsychje> nice debug trick that alsa page
[20:31] <ben_g> championofcyrodi: only the analog one is present in that box, I have nothing plugged in to my HDMI port
[20:31] <championofcyrodi> silly question, but did you ensure the jack is plugged  in all the way, and the headphones work properly with another device?
[20:31] <razor-home> I was just about to say that. Sometimes the answer is the simplest of things
[20:31] <razor-home> some headphones have their own volume control as well.
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> Ben_g: try: echo " options snd-hda-intel model=ideapad" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf > /dev/null , reboot to test
[20:31] <razor-home> so maybe check that
[20:32] <championofcyrodi> also i had a weird issue with a dual boot system... in that when i muted my audio in ubuntu, it could not be unmuted in windows, even though windows reported it as un muted.
[20:32] <ben_g> Yes, and I also tried rotating the plug and pulling it out and reinserting it to make sure it wasn't a bad contact
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[20:32] <championofcyrodi> rebooted into ubuntu, clicked unmute, then rebooted back into win7 and audio was back...
[20:33] <championofcyrodi> sorry i can't be of any more help... hopefully actionparsnip can help
[20:33] <ben_g> championofcyrodi: That might be related: I am using dual booting, and I had a similar problem some time ago, but on windows (though moving back to linux fixed it then)
[20:34] <ben_g> ActionParsnip: I've entered that. Brb, rebooting
[20:34] <championofcyrodi> ben_g:  Yea I'm not sure about that bug/feature with dual booting... my guess is that ubuntu is setting some mute boolean to true on the sound card via bios... then windows can't unmute.
[20:37] <ben_g_> I rebooted, the headphones still don't work normally
[20:38] <pawprint> why am i only seeing mac desktop CD iso's here:  http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/DVDs/ubuntu/12.04.5/release/
[20:39] <championofcyrodi> ben_g_: that sucks.. :(
[20:39] <pawprint> where can i get a CD iso of 12.04.5 for PC amd64 ?
[20:39] <k1l_> pawprint: scroll down
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> ben_g_: ok, run: sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf , remove the line you added
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> !download | pawprint
[20:40] <ben_g_> ActionParsnip: ok, which line got added?
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> ben_g_: the last line
[20:41] <ben_g_>  options snd-hda-intel model=ideapad?
[20:41] <championofcyrodi> options snd-hda-intel model=ideapad
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> Exactly
[20:41] <ben_g_> ActionParsnip: ok
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> ben_g_: could try: model=laptop instead....
[20:43] <MeXTuX> Hi! I want to create a custom launcher for Gitk. Don't know how to add these two command to the "exec" cd /home/user/myProject and after that gitk. Any idea?
[20:43] <pawprint> ActionParsnip: thanks.. that looks like the link i want
[20:43] <ben_g_> ActionParsnip: should I add that line again then?
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> ben_g_: sure, just change ideapad to laptop
[20:44] <IPPhoneGuy> so yah - that nvidia driver blew everything up :P
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> IPPhoneGuy: why not use the packaged version in nvidia-current ?
[20:44] <daftykins> ActionParsnip: because i said not to
[20:45] <IPPhoneGuy> ActionParsnip: long story - essentially they suck
[20:45] <daftykins> to solve a quirk
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> daftykins: I see
[20:45] <daftykins> IPPhoneGuy: what happened exactly? you had purged the other driver first yeah? :)
[20:45] <ben_g_> ActionParsnip: Ok, do I have to reboot again now? (I'll also try setting the windows sound to something non-muted then)
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> ben_g_: theres a command so you don't have to but I can't recall it
[20:45] <IPPhoneGuy> daftykins: yeah, then of course after that I installed it and it literally blew up X, locked up the machine on boot etc...
[20:46] <daftykins> IPPhoneGuy: that's pretty fun, was it the 64-bit .run from nvidia?
[20:46] <IPPhoneGuy> yup
[20:46] <ben_g_> ActionParsnip: I'll just reboot then, brb
[20:47] <IPPhoneGuy> daftykins: thankfully there's nothing on this machine, I just re-rolled in and was back up and running quickly
[20:47] <daftykins> re-what now?
[20:47] <IPPhoneGuy> rebuilt it :P
[20:47] <daftykins> a whole clean install for a driver quirk?
[20:48] <daftykins> that's extreme
[20:48] <IPPhoneGuy> daftykins: sure - it took all of 3 mins :P
[20:48] <lotuspsychje> lol
[20:48] <daftykins> so what are you going to do now?
[20:48] <IPPhoneGuy> daftykins: faster than troubleshooting it
[20:48] <daftykins> i need results, IPPhoneGuy !
[20:48] <IPPhoneGuy> I'm not quite sure quite honestly
[20:48] <daftykins> well not if you knew how
[20:48] <daftykins> you could try putting on a newer driver from that nasty xorg-edgers PPA then
[20:48] <IPPhoneGuy> having a monitor stuck in 1080p is unacceptable :P
[20:49] <daftykins> yip
[20:49] <daftykins> so, PPA or go use Windows :>
[20:49] <lotuspsychje> IPPhoneGuy: what kind of card is this?
[20:49] <IPPhoneGuy> this is the last windows box I have :P
[20:49] <IPPhoneGuy> I'd prefer to just use linux
[20:49] <IPPhoneGuy> lotuspsychje: 789 Ti
[20:49] <IPPhoneGuy> 780 Ti
[20:49] <lotuspsychje> on 14.04?
[20:49] <daftykins> lotuspsychje: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9543072/ lines 200+ - HDMI detects single link instead of dual
[20:49] <IPPhoneGuy> aye
[20:50] <advise> Hello. Just got back to using Ubuntu after not using a computer for 3 years. Things have changed slightly. How do I manipulate files from a FUSE-mount (mtp device) in a terminal? I can list the files. But it claims there is no read access.
[20:50] <lotuspsychje> IPPhoneGuy: is that an optimus card?
[20:50] <IPPhoneGuy> lotuspsychje: nope
[20:51] <IPPhoneGuy> GTX 780 Ti
[20:51] <daftykins> lol.
[20:52] <lotuspsychje> hmm bashing-om did say something about Ti cards and some other drivers to choose
[20:53] <daftykins> yeah we've been down this road, i say try the xorg-edgers PPA for newer than v331 as per the repo
[20:53] <daftykins> IPPhoneGuy: you done it yet? :P
[20:53] <IPPhoneGuy> daftykins: working on it
[20:53] <daftykins> good stuff
[20:54] <IPPhoneGuy> well i was - cant find that URL :P
[20:54] <IPPhoneGuy> you ahve it handy again?
[20:54] <daftykins> i wasn't the one that referred to any links
[20:54] <daftykins> just google for xorg-edgers ppa
[20:54] <ben_g> I've added that line in the file again unmuted the sound in windows and rebooted back to linux, and now the headphones just don't play any sound anymore
[20:55] <ben_g> (though I've tested them in windows and they seemed to work normally there)
[20:56] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: maybe this could be handy for him: http://askubuntu.com/questions/451672/installing-and-testing-cuda-in-ubuntu-14-04
[20:57] <ben_g> ActionParsnip: should I take that line out of that text file again?
[20:57] <daftykins> lotuspsychje: manual driver install? well that's what i just had said user do and it apparently ended badly :)
[20:57] <lotuspsychje> kk :p
[20:57] <redfox> hi, I've a problem with apt-get I can't update package linux-image-gerneric and linux-generic loop on depends.
[20:58] <jakubo> hi, i cannot login after installing openssh-server
[20:58] <ikonia> jakubo: whats the problem ?
[20:58] <daftykins> jakubo: you mean... via SSH?
[20:59] <jakubo> no locally
[20:59] <ikonia> jakubo: how are you trying to login, exactly
[20:59] <jakubo> i can login via ssh, but not locally anymore
[20:59] <ikonia> ssh server will not impact any login process other than ssh
[20:59] <jakubo> push power button... wait and enter credentials to lightdmlogin screen
[21:00] <ikonia> and what happens then
[21:00] <jakubo> nothing. i get back to the loginscreen
[21:00] <ikonia> jakubo: so that suggests its logging you in and then dropping you back out, rather than not logging you in
[21:00] <daftykins> check a TTY
[21:00] <ikonia> jakubo: many reasons can impact this, such as no space on /home, read only /home, desktop config error (check xsession-errors)
[21:02] <brainacid> was wondering how i can measure memory consumption other than using top
[21:02] <ikonia> brainacid: measure it in what way ?
[21:02] <brainacid> top says i have 4gb ram
[21:02] <narthur> Any idea why trying to boot a live CD on a mac would give the error "i8042: No controller found" ?
[21:02] <brainacid> well 3.6
[21:02] <jakubo> "failed to start unit user@117.service
[21:03] <ikonia> brainacid: what do you actually want to know ?
[21:03] <brainacid> and lke 859MB free
[21:03] <jakubo> is that too related to ro home?
[21:03] <brainacid> im under blackbox
[21:03] <brainacid> and wanted to know differences between lxde and blackbox usage
[21:03] <ikonia> jakubo: no idea, don't see why though
[21:03] <brainacid> ikonia, i might not have a defined problem yet
[21:03] <brainacid> l0l
[21:04] <ikonia> brainacid: the issue is they are both modular to an extent, so it's not just one process to measure
[21:04] <ikonia> you need to look at the collection of processes
[21:05] <brainacid> thanks ikonia i appreciate the responses
[21:07] <ej> what site is good for updated fixes for know issues.. im getting alot of outdates
[21:07] <jakubo> how should i proceed? any idea?
[21:07] <ikonia> ej: what do you mean
[21:07] <ikonia> jakubo: in what respect ?
[21:08] <ej> im i need a siund mixer for gnome for my card and all these fixes r outdated.
[21:08] <ej> sound*
[21:08] <jakubo> to get home and have a usable desktop. as i can see the contents of home but only via ssh
[21:08] <ikonia> fixes are outdated ?
[21:08] <ikonia> jakubo: is home read only ? is there space on /home ?
[21:09] <ej> well there for ubuntu 10.0
[21:09] <ej> and under
[21:09] <ikonia> ej: so that means the fixes will already be included in later releases
[21:09] <ej> i dont see 14.4
[21:09] <jakubo> its a 2TB disk with a more or less fresh install. and i did not make it ro. and i can change things via ssh
[21:09] <ej> ok..
[21:09] <ikonia> jakubo: did you say earlier this is a livecd ?
[21:09] <ikonia> or did I miss-understand
[21:09] <jakubo> its not
[21:09] <ikonia> ok
[21:10] <eka> hi all... I have this NFS mount, but is being mounted with with a specific user owning all the files... how can I change that?
[21:10] <ikonia> jakubo: so the first 2 questions a.) does /home have space b.) is /home/$username writeable
[21:11] <ej> i ihave a sony vaio  the keys for mute i and volume interfering with the mixer.
[21:11] <jakubo> how can i check either
[21:12] <ej> ok last qustion what website do i use for fixes?
[21:12] <ikonia> you don't
[21:12] <ej> im getting alot  ..alot of info!
[21:12] <ikonia> getting a lot of what ?
[21:12] <ej> just questions no answers
[21:13] <keep> hi
[21:13] <ej> advice no fixes
[21:13] <ikonia> I've only seen you ask one question about your sound, which isn't really a clear question
[21:13] <ej> i know im sry..
[21:14] <ej> theres no sound mixer in alsamixer
[21:14] <bluefox83> ok, for whatever reason i can't get lightdm or gdm to start :(
[21:15] <ej> how do install a mixer in alsamixer.. ill start there.
[21:15] <bluefox83> for whatever reason sudo service lightdm start    does not seem to work O.o
[21:15] <ikonia> install a mixer ?
[21:15] <ikonia> ej: you should see your sound device in alsamixer
[21:15] <ikonia> bluefox83: define "does not work"
[21:16] <ej> or build or compose or ..
[21:16] <bluefox83> nore does sudo service gdm start
[21:16] <ej> sry im new.
[21:16] <bluefox83> ikonia: sits at a black screen with a blinking cursor indefinately
[21:16] <ikonia> bluefox83: what does the logs show
[21:16] <bluefox83> and the gdm one just blinks the terminal window a couple of times
[21:16] <ikonia> what does your xession-errors file say
[21:16] <bluefox83> ikonia: i don't knowwhere the logs are
[21:17] <ikonia> why are you doing sudo gdm start ? the desktop install sets up X to start by default
[21:17] <bluefox83> ikonia: because it drops me to a terminal window instead of starting D:
[21:18] <bluefox83> and of course now i can't switch to another terminal window ...that's fun
[21:19] <ikonia> bluefox83: what did you install, ubuntu/lubuntu/xubuntu ?
[21:20] <bluefox83> ikonia: ubuntu
[21:20] <ikonia> bluefox83: when you first installed it did the desktop auto start ?
[21:20] <bluefox83> but uh...for whatever reason i have to run it via the the safe mode thing, then hit resume
[21:20] <ikonia> bluefox83: when you first installed it did the desktop auto start ?
[21:20] <bluefox83> ikonia: yeah. it was working fine this morning
[21:20] <ej> is there a log file i could show u guys? to help me explain my lack of verbage?
[21:21] <ikonia> bluefox83: then what happened/what changed before it stopped working
[21:21] <bluefox83> ikonia: i dunno, i was watching clips on cnn.com this morning and my screen turned white...i cycled it to restart X but instead it shut off...
[21:21] <bluefox83> and then i left for work
[21:22] <bluefox83> i just got home, and X wont start4
[21:22] <ikonia> bluefox83: so your desktop crashed at some point
[21:22] <bluefox83> ikonia: sounds like it4
[21:22] <ikonia> bluefox83: so look at your .xsession-logs in your home directory and your xorg logs in /var/log
[21:23] <bluefox83> ok, i'll have to launch something like tmux before i can be in here and do that at the same time...brb
[21:24] <bluefox83> ok...lets see if i can figure out how to use tmux still...
[21:27] <bluefox83> doesn't matter, i can switch between terminals now...
[21:29] <bluefox83> ikonia: what were the two files i needed to check for errors?
[21:31] <thx> I'm running Xubuntu 14.04 on inspiron 14z and when I close my lid and reopen it, the screen stays black. Searching on google I saw information about enable light blocker, but this recipe doesn't work.
[21:31] <thx> can someone help?
[21:31] <harusperr> /quit
[21:32] <bluefox83> thx: you might try in #xubuntu
[21:32] <thx> bluefox: thanks
[21:33] <bluefox83> i'm really starting to get frustrated with this whole thing...getting ubuntu running on this laptop is like pulling teeth from a freaking tiger :(
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> bluefox83: wassup?
[21:34] <bluefox83> i got the type of ubuntu installer i'm supposed to use for my laptop and every time i turn around there's another problem
[21:35] <bluefox83> ActionParsnip: currently i can no longer get an X session running
[21:35] <bluefox83> no gdm or lightdm
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> bluefox83: what happened before the issue? Updates?
[21:35] <bluefox83> not a thing
[21:35] <bluefox83> i haven't updated in weeks4
[21:36] <bluefox83> -4
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> bluefox83: have you tested RAM using memtest86
[21:36] <bluefox83> i watched some clips on cnn.com and now...poof
[21:36] <bluefox83> ActionParsnip: actually memtest86 wont run :(
[21:36] <bluefox83> i'm runnning an old kernel in safe mode...which is the only way i can get ubuntu to run!
[21:37] <bluefox83> it was running fine, had everything working fine...now, for whatever reason; no X
[21:38] <Ben64> "i got the type of ubuntu installer i'm supposed to use for my laptop" <<---- what does that mean
[21:39] <bluefox83> well my samsung laptop has uefi so i got the installer for that...you know it crashes almost immediately after telling it to do anything?
[21:39] <bluefox83> i tried a few months ago to update it...but it's no-go
[21:39] <Ben64> you really should run memtest
[21:40] <bluefox83> i'm getting frustrated with ubuntu, but not sure if i really want to put the work into anything else...
[21:40] <ej> bluefox83,  di u have any audio problems?
[21:40] <ej> did*
[21:40] <ej> its worth it!
[21:40] <bluefox83> ej: i couldn't make it past "install ubuntu" in the installer to get any audio problems
[21:41] <bluefox83> i'm on like 12.04 right now, running a really old kernel in safe mode or recovery...whatever
[21:41] <ej> ooh i see .. i had a hell of a time to im on a sony vaio..
[21:42] <ej> no=acpi
[21:42] <bluefox83> tried that
[21:42] <bluefox83> it wouldn't work
[21:42] <ej> pci=nobios
[21:42] <ej> vga=771
[21:42] <Ben64> really, run memtest
[21:42] <bluefox83> Ben64: can i run memtest86 from terminal?
[21:42] <Ben64> no
[21:42] <bluefox83> can i run it from grub? O.o
[21:43] <Ben64> yep
[21:43] <compdoc> you boot it
[21:43] <MrSavage> what's an alternative to firefox?
[21:43] <bluefox83> well...*sigh*
[21:43] <IPPhoneGuy> daftykins: sure enough - dual link dvi cable and it's working
[21:43] <teward> MrSavage: Chrome
[21:43] <ej> opera
[21:43] <k1l_> MrSavage: chromium?
[21:43] <bluefox83> i guess i'll have to try it out then
[21:43] <bprompt> MrSavage:   chromium, google chrome, opera
[21:43] <ej> spacebar
[21:43] <bluefox83> be back...eventually...i guess
[21:43] <k1l_> MrSavage: just try the brwosers and see what suits you best
[21:43] <Ben64> bluefox83: with what you're describing, sounds like a hardware problem
[21:43] <daftykins> IPPhoneGuy: bam. seems like an HDMI capability issue then, did you try a 340 driver beforehand too?
[21:43] <ej> goodluck.
[21:44] <MrSavage> ah i tried apt-get install chrome and it didn't work
[21:44] <bluefox83> thanks...
[21:44] <IPPhoneGuy> daftykins: I didn't get to that - was doing some work and when I grabbed the monitor box to throw it in the garbage I heard rattling, found 2 dvi's
[21:44] <ej> chromiun
[21:44] <ej> chromium*
[21:44] <etomiotto> help-me in portuguese-brazil
[21:44] <rww> !pt
[21:44] <Pici> !pt | etomiotto
[21:45] <rww> :3
[21:45] <daftykins> IPPhoneGuy: :D neat, thanks for the update.
[21:45] <bprompt> MrSavage:     anything wrong with firefox?  just wondering.. you can download the .deb from google's site for google chrome btw, tis about 45mbs
[21:45] <ej> i should nit be advising people.
[21:45] <ej> not*
[21:45] <daftykins> bprompt: .deb's are bad
[21:45] <MrSavage> bprompt: i'm getting numerous loading issues after changing my router. however the ubuntu browser loads fine for the pages having issues on firefox
[21:45] <etomiotto> pt-br !
[21:45] <bprompt> well..... I find them great :)
[21:46] <MrSavage> bprompt: also the file picker sucks on firefox so hard
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> bprompt: one you install the chrome deb it will add Google's repo for you
[21:46] <etomiotto> my driver of a
[21:46] <bprompt> ActionParsnip: yes.... I'm aware... could remove.. but I always download the .deb anyhow
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> bprompt: you should its a great way to add chrome to the system as well as upgrades :-)
[21:47] <bprompt> MrSavage:    the file picker.. if you mean the window to choose a file from firefox... that's provided by gtk, all firefox does is launch whatever window manager calls it
[21:48] <MrSavage> bprompt: is it possible to change that?
[21:48] <MrSavage> I find unity fine except for the horrendous file manager
[21:48] <MrSavage> and unity being generally buggy with some openGL
[21:49] <bprompt> MrSavage:    onlyb if you change the window manager I gather... afaik... firefox only launches whatever file picker the window manager gives...... though in my case it launches a gtk, which leads me to think it simply uses the gtk file window anyhow
[21:50] <daftykins> bprompt: .deb's great? installing and never getting updated? mmm not very wise advice
[21:50] <MrSavage> bprompt: I think you can change it via the file_picker option in about:config
[21:50] <bprompt> MrSavage:    as far as the pages... could be a number of things... no necessarily the browser itself... just some configuration issue
[21:50] <daftykins> oh just read up, sounds like it's different for chrome's .deb
[21:50] <MrSavage> bprompt: how can i fix this issue then?
[21:50] <etomiotto> I'm using google translator to talk to you
[21:51] <MrSavage> ok now google chrome is hanging
[21:51] <MrSavage> on loading a page
[21:51] <bprompt> MrSavage:     well.. we have no info on what might be going on... so.. you haven't quite provided much, other than some pages don't load well or at all.... dunno offhand.
[21:51] <MrSavage> how can i check if this is an issue with ubuntu's config or whatever?
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> daftykins: the chrome deb adds google's repo, so you will get updates.
[21:51] <MrSavage> bprompt: i believe the packets getting lost?
[21:52] <k1l_> !br | etomiotto
[21:52] <etomiotto> I need a atheros driver that works on ubuntu
[21:53] <MrSavage> yeah i'm losing connectivity
[21:53] <MrSavage> in both chrome and firefox
[21:53] <MrSavage> and I just received information that i requested 5 min ago
[21:54] <bprompt> MrSavage:     hmmm    well... you mention it started when you setup a new router.... so... maybe some configuration is telling the browsers to use a different network interface.. or something in the network setup changed, it looks like
[21:56] <ej> oh i got hardwhere issues.. im changing the volume up and down and not even pressing the button.!!
[21:56] <ej> sliding my fingers over keys makes a beep.
[21:57] <ej> wierd.
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> etomiotto: which atheros do you have!
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> eternnoir: and, what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[22:02] <etomiotto> actionparnship:yes
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> eternnoir: that answers neither of my questions....
[22:04] <meetri> can someone help me with port forwarding? i'm trying to redirect the localhost db port to be sent to a remote server
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[22:05] <Heebie1> Hello.  I'm running Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, and I just did an apt-get update and restarted my machine, and now my ZFS-based /home  directory is not mounting with everything else when the system starts.  Has anyone seen this?  I can't find anything online  about it.
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> eternnoir: 1) Which Atheros do you have?   2) What is the output of: cat /etc/issue      neither is answered by "yes"
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> Heebie1: can you manually mount it ok?
[22:06] <jatt> Heebie1: check the logs (and dmesg)
[22:06] <Heebie1> ActionParsnip: Only from a repair shell.  Once I login to my account, it creates a new home directory for me on the / partition. It's quite annoying!
[22:07] <Heebie1> jatt: That's a good idea. :/
[22:10] <Heebie1> jatt: There doesn't appear to be anything useful.  The only mount failure is a CIFS drive that isn't online on the network.
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> Heebie1: if you add the mount in /etcrc.local above the exit 0 line, is it ok?
[22:14] <Heebie1> ActionParsnip: I'll have to check.  I'm guessing you mean add zfs mount <pool>/<filesystem> ?
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> Heebie1: yeah as if you were manualy mounting it
[22:14] <arun_> guys, any best DE for touch screen x86 tabs?
[22:15] <Heebie1> gack. :( I'll try it and report back! (I'm on that machine right now.)
[22:16] <tab1293> how can you view the id3 tags of audio files in the file manager?
[22:16] <hlblyhipy> I have a question regarding jackd and ardour,im using ubuntu studio 14.04.1 is this the right place
[22:16] <tab1293> without having to right click and view properties
[22:17] <arun_> guys, any best DE for touch screen x86 tabs?
[22:18] <k1l_> arun_: they are all not really touch friendly yet
[22:20] <arun_> k1l_: anyone better ?
[22:23] <Heebie1> Well, I know I'm able to login as the root user and manually mount it, then log into my account. :) That's a plus!
[22:23] <k1l_> arun_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/419175/is-there-a-more-touch-friendly-desktop-environment
[22:25] <k1l_> arun_: you could ask in #ubuntu-touch what the tablet state is so far.
[22:25] <alex_lostpass> so, i lost my wrapped passfile and cant find the backup
[22:25] <alex_lostpass> but i know the PW
[22:26] <alex_lostpass> any chance to undelete it? where is the location?
[22:26] <alex_lostpass> i need my damn files...
[22:27] <alex_lostpass> any chance to brute force the file knowing the password?
[22:29] <KrisDouglas> arun_, Gnome shell is about the most touch friendly of the interfaces, you can make most of the icons and launchers big enough in the configurations to make it quite a nice UI
[22:29] <KrisDouglas> alex_lostpass, what are you trying to achieve, I missed the start of your query?
[22:29] <alex_lostpass> i deleted my wrapper passfile, booted live linux now. trying to restore
[22:30] <alex_lostpass> is the location /home/user/.ecryptfs/ ?
[22:30] <k1l_> KrisDouglas: arun_ same goes for unity. but i dont consider it fully touch friendly. there are still a lot of situations where you need a right-click or such which doesnt work on touch
[22:31] <KrisDouglas> Right click on touch is done with a simple long press on the screen, most systems support that by default now, unity and gnome shell included. (exactly the same as android)
[22:31] <KrisDouglas> Though as you say, unity is okay for touch screens
[22:32] <KrisDouglas> alex_lostpass, so you have an encrypted FS and you have lost the password?
[22:33] <alex_lostpass> KrisDouglas, yes. i lost the wrapped passfile (INFO: Could not find your wrapped passphrase file.)
[22:34] <KrisDouglas> alex_lostpass, (quote: help.ubuntu.com) - If you have lost your wrapped-passphrase file, and you did not record your mount passphrase, it is impossible to access your encrypted data.
[22:35] <KrisDouglas> alex_lostpass, good security design at work there I'm afraid.
[22:35] <Heebie1> Which file, in particular, is the wrapped-passphrase file?  Is there a way to get back the passphrase from that file?
[22:36] <tnkhanh> I just installed virtualbox from a tarball
[22:36] <KrisDouglas> if the file on the system has been deleted or lost for whatever reason, and it has not been backed up to a secure location, there i little chance of recovery.
[22:36] <tnkhanh> how to run it in terminal as if I installed via apt-get
[22:36] <KrisDouglas> The url is "/home/username/.ecryptfs/wrapped-passphrase"
[22:36] <alex_lostpass> KrisDouglas, i cant give up. i might brute force the file. its only 32 byte
[22:36] <k1l_> tnkhanh: why didnt you use a deb file?
[22:36] <KrisDouglas> url, sorry, I mean path
[22:36] <KrisDouglas> tnkhanh, why didn't you download a native debian file?
[22:36] <KrisDouglas> ooh sorry beaten to it, sorry k1l_
[22:36] <Heebie1> Thanks Kris. Sounds like something important to back up.  That was a PATHetic mistake, though. ;)
[22:36] <alex_lostpass> ls: cannot access /home/alex/.ecryptfs/wra*: No such file or directory
[22:37] <tnkhanh> KrisDouglas: because I see a tarball available :-?
[22:37] <KrisDouglas> Heebie1, alex_lostpass sounds very much like you fell victim to the "if you don't have it twice you don't have it" rule. :(
[22:38] <KrisDouglas> tnkhanh, it's a bit of a pain to do it that way
[22:38] <tnkhanh> KrisDouglas: I install some programs as tarballs because I see its newer version
[22:38] <alex_lostpass> KrisDouglas, im restoring an ancient backup of a server currently. it might be there (i created the key 1 year ago or so)
[22:38] <Heebie1> It's /home/.ecryptfs/<username>/.ecryptfs/wrapped-passphrase on my system, alex_lostpass, in case you find it somewhere.
[22:38] <tnkhanh> KrisDouglas: but then I realize then I cannot run it in terminal. Help :(
[22:39] <k1l_> tnkhanh: that is the breaking point now. vbox ships deb files for ubuntu. that include services like easy starting
[22:39] <KrisDouglas> tnkhanh, that doesn't really make much difference. You can still download the bang-up-to-date version in a .deb file from https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> tnkhanh: not only does virtualbox have its own repo, but it is also in the default ubuntu repos, so why are you using a tarball at all?
[22:39] <Dragin> What is the command to get glib-2.0? (I mean where is it located?) I am trying to install gtk+-3.14.6 and I need about 5 other files as well
[22:39] <alex_lostpass> Heebie1, its just a link (lrwxrwxrwx 1 alex alex    30 Apr 20  2014 .ecryptfs -> /home/.ecryptfs/alex/.ecryptfs)
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> tnkhanh: sudo apt-get install virtualbox , and you are done....
[22:39] <KrisDouglas> tnkhanh, i.e for the lastest version for th most recent version of Ubu: v
[22:39] <KrisDouglas> http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/4.3.20/virtualbox-4.3_4.3.20-96996~Ubuntu~raring_amd64.deb
[22:39] <tnkhanh> ActionParsnip: ehehe I'm just learning that tarball is cool :D
[22:40] <tnkhanh> oh I started with OCaml and Eclipse
[22:40] <KrisDouglas> to install a deb it's as simple as "sudo dpkg-install FILENAME.deb"
[22:40] <tnkhanh> cause the tarball is newer version
[22:40] <tnkhanh> just a few days ago
[22:40] <Heebie1> alex_lostpass: Mine isn't it/s a file. (a very short binary one.)
[22:41] <tnkhanh> since then I love tarballs :D
[22:41] <tnkhanh> but that way I can't run things from terminal
[22:41] <tnkhanh> help :(
[22:41] <alex_lostpass> Heebie1, i meant /home/user/.ecryptfs and /home/.ecryptfs/user/ is the same. the file should be 32 bytes consisting of 0-9 and a-z according to wiki
[22:42] <Heebie1> alex_lostpass: I can see some letters and numbers with strings, but if I simply cat it, it looks binary.
[22:43] <KrisDouglas> tnkhanh, virtualbox relies on a lot of services, and the very latest bleeding-edge version won't give you much (if any) benefit from the download designed for ubuntu at their website.
[22:43] <k1l_> tnkhanh: so see where you tarballed it to.
[22:43] <alex_lostpass> Heebie1, how big is it, if i might ask?
[22:43] <Heebie1> So, is there a way to recover the cleartext passphrase from that wrapped-passphrase file?
[22:43] <Heebie1> It's 48 bytes.
[22:44] <alex_lostpass> Heebie1, i think the password you type and the file together are used to form a passphrase
[22:44] <KrisDouglas> Heebie1, it's very unlikely that the contents of that file actually contain the password, more a calculation based on it.
[22:44] <tnkhanh> KrisDouglas: k1l_ : thanks, I'm just installing it via software center now
[22:45] <KrisDouglas> Okay, I can't guarantee the software centre one is going to be the latest version, but the one on the website always is.
[22:45] <alex_lostpass> damn. extundelete didnt find files exactly 48bytes long
[22:47] <alex_lostpass> my last chance is that ancient backup :#(
[22:49] <Heebie1> alex_lostpass: One of the (many) reasons I use ZFS, is so that I can run back to a snapshot if I need to recover something.
[22:49] <KrisDouglas> ZFS is good
[22:49] <arun_> THanks k1l_ and KrisDouglas
[22:50] <KrisDouglas> arun_, no probs :) Have a play, there's always something that can be beaten with a hammer to work for you :)
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> alex_lostpass: I suggest you review your backup regime
[22:51] <alex_lostpass> ActionParsnip, yeah... i just have too many devices... 1/3 without backup 1/3 like this 1/3 multiple backups
[22:51] <KrisDouglas> ActionParsnip, << what he said! If you don't have it twice, you don't have it. Daily backups at a minium for my machines. Most of my stuff is backed up on the fly to an on site, and then nightlied off-site.
[22:51] <Heebie1> I love ZFS. Right now I have point-in-time snapshots of all my data filesystems back to the beginning of November.  It works very well.
[22:51] <Heebie1> (I still backup my ZFS filesystems to other disks as well.)
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> I have a dirty cron'd rsync job to usb.
[22:52] <alex_lostpass> i still have JFS on some disks :)
[22:52] <KrisDouglas> That is from 2 laptops, 2 tablets, a desktop and 4 servers!
[22:52] <KrisDouglas> Way too much data in my house, need to burn some! haha
[22:52] <Heebie1> ActionParsnip: Have you tried using rsnapshot?  It's very good for that type of thing.
[22:53] <Heebie1> KrisDouglas: I have a 6x8TB raidz2 array.. at about 60% capacity. (that's just at home.  at work I've got about 150 3TB spindles.. lots of data.)
[22:54] <alex_lostpass> KrisDouglas, same here, 6 androids phones, 2 androids tabs, 2 ipads, 3 laptops, 4 embedded devices, 1 htpc, 1 esxi, 1 gaming device, 1 testing device, the NAS, the routers, the 3 servers in the datacenter, the VPN vservers, ...
[22:54] <bekks> alex_lostpass: And no valuable backup?!
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> Heebie1: the crontab is about 10 years old dude, not looking to change it anytime soon ;)
[22:55] <alex_lostpass> bekks, depends. the servers are important, so they have raid-1 and daily backups
[22:55] <alex_lostpass> the laptop here is .. well, nice to have, but i never found the time to sync him
[22:55] <Heebie1> ActionParsnip: sounds like it might be time to get some new hardware! Eek!
[22:55] <alex_lostpass> now i downloaded some files for work on it and i really need them
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> Heebie1: why, its all fine. New pair of disks every 4 years...
[22:57] <ShRP_> help
[22:57] <ShRP_> oops
[22:57] <ShRP_> sorry
[22:58] <tnkhanh> shrp_: hi
[22:58] <kevdog_> does brtfs also do snapshots?
[22:58] <kevdog_> I hear that filesystem being talked about alot
[22:58] <daftykins> i think it's still experimental
[22:58] <daftykins> not sure
[22:58] <Heebie1> btrfs, I think is getting a lot of mention, because it "back ends" things like CEPH.
[23:01] <alex_lostpass> stupid question: if i cant restore my user
[23:01] <alex_lostpass> can i at least use the system and create a new user?
[23:02] <Heebie1> alex_lostpass: Yes, you should be able to do that.
[23:02] <arun_> KrisDouglas: thanks, hey can we just modify gnome3 menu ? to our desire ?
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> alex_lostpass: not sure personally, I dont use encrypted filesystems. Too much head ache
[23:02] <arun_> just the items positions
[23:03] <alex_lostpass> Heebie1, but i have this empty path and user id. how do i "reset" it?
[23:03] <Heebie1> alex_lostpass: delete that user account and create a new one.
[23:04] <julien> ju
[23:04] <alex_lostpass> WAIT. i might have found smething in ancient backup!!!!!!!!!
[23:05]  * Heebie1 thinks it's high time I reboot the machine to see if my ZFS /home filesystem mounts correctly this time! :/
[23:05] <alex_lostpass> Error: Your kernel does not support filename encryption
[23:06] <alex_lostpass> i cant do it from this live linux. will reboot and rejoin in a sec
[23:11] <Heebie1> Good news is that my /home directory mounted and all is well! :)
[23:14] <daniel3_> How would you connect to a wireless network using the Mac address instead of the ssid?
[23:14] <daniel3_> I am using cli, no gui.
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> daniel3_: wicd-cli if you install wicd and remove network manager
[23:17] <alex_nub1> Passfile alex here
[23:17] <daniel3_> I don't have wicd..
[23:17] <alex_nub1> So. I found the recovery key but cant login. Only mount data
[23:17] <daniel3_> I am just using the /etc/network/interfaces files
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> daniel3_: that can work too
[23:18] <Heebie1> alex_nub1: Why can't you login? That doesn't make a lot of sense.
[23:18] <alex_nub1> Is the wrapped_passfile in /home/user/.ecryptfs/? What is the exact name?
[23:18] <daniel3_> Ive been googling for a little bit now and cant find the actual syntax to put in my file.
[23:18] <alex_nub1> Heebie1 ecryptfs-recover lets me mount my sruff in /tmp
[23:18] <daniel3_> I tried wpa-bssid XX:XX:XX:XX:XX *as mac address" but that didn't work.
[23:19] <Heebie1> alex_nub1: /home/.ecryptfs/<user>/.ecryptfs/wrapped-passphrase
[23:19] <EriC^^> daniel3_: man nmcli
[23:19] <alex_nub1> Heebie1 ahh, i had it wrong. Will retry. Btw the key is exactly 32 bytes
[23:19] <EriC^^> daniel3_: there's an example at the bottom
[23:19] <Heebie1> good for ecryptfs-recover :)
[23:20] <Heebie1> alex_nub1: Weird that my key is 48 bytes. :/ (with some of that being binary.)
[23:20] <daniel3_> Well said.
[23:20] <alex_nub1> Heebie1 i hope i can just put the key there and login normally
[23:20] <daniel3_> No man pages for nmcli :)
[23:21] <daniel3_> Did I mention this is ubuntu-server?
[23:21] <Heebie1> give it a shot!
[23:23] <arun_> guys, is gnome3 in the repo?
[23:23] <bubbasaures> yes it's the gnome-shell
[23:23] <k1l_> arun_: yes. but gnome3 is only the base. unity uses gnome3 base, too. you mean gnome-shell
[23:24] <alex_nub1> Heebie1 nope. Seems i need the binary part. Need to read manual....
[23:24] <Heebie1> bummer. :/
[23:24] <daniel3_> So yeah, no man cli on my ubuntu-server installaton, Im not seeing an example at http://linux.die.net/man/1/nmcli that is related to what to put in /etc/network/interfaces
[23:26] <arun_> k1l_: yes, gnome-shell
[23:26] <k1l_> !info gnome-shell
[23:29] <thecha> how do i purge all older kernels from kli?
[23:29] <thecha> k, thx, bye bye
[23:30] <daftykins> thecha: apt-get autoremove
[23:30] <daftykins> CLI? :>
[23:30] <Bashing-om> daniel3_: Static or DHCP for networking ?
[23:30] <thecha> ty
[23:30] <k1l_> sudo apt-get purge linux-image-.....
[23:30] <daniel3_> dhcp
[23:31] <grar> How do I make rhythmbox use my GTK+ theme? It's currently using what I assume is the default look. I didn't see anything about theming in the plugins or preferences. I'm on Xubuntu 14.04. I have clearlooks-phenix installed which includes the original clearlooks and the appropriate theming engines.
[23:31] <username_blahbla> Hello
[23:32] <username_blahbla> Is this the correct channel for install issues?
[23:32] <daniel3_> I think I migght have gotten it.  How do I verify what bssid I am connected to?
[23:32] <thecha> Hello username_blahbla
[23:32] <thecha> how may i help
[23:32] <daniel3_> Actually just saw it in dmesg.  I did it using wpa_supplicant.
[23:32] <thecha> username_blahbla→ what seems to be the problem
[23:33] <username_blahbla> I'm trying to create a bootable USB installer to install on a Mac Mini. Following these instructions makes something the mini can't boot from: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx
[23:34] <thecha> Oh, well--
[23:34] <username_blahbla> I don't believe the problem is with the USB stick because I've tried several and non have worked. Also, I've used drives that have I've been able to boot other systems from
[23:35] <username_blahbla> *non->none
[23:35] <Bashing-om> daniel3_: Maybe something like in /etc/network/interfaces : (line 1) >> auto lo , (line2) >> iface eth1 inet dhcp , (line 3) >> auto eth1 , (line 4) iface eth1 inet dhcp . Hope that helps .
[23:35] <thecha> you have to format to fat 32
[23:36] <thecha> fat datasystem
[23:36] <daniel3_> bashfr3ak, I got it using stuff from this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo  I basically specified the bssid in wpa_supplicant.
[23:36] <username_blahbla> Before the dd step?
[23:37] <username_blahbla> I figured it wouldn't matter what fs what on the stick before the dd since the dd blows it away any way. Is that wrong?
[23:37] <Bashing-om> daniel3_: : ) .
[23:37] <daniel3_> Thanks guys.
[23:41] <arun_> k1l_: I couldn't install gnome-shell
[23:41] <k1l_> arun_: why that?
[23:42] <username_blahbla> Aha. I think I might have found something. I was partitioning with GUID partition table. Should I use MBR instead?
[23:43] <pbx> can i get my machine to auto-set backlight brightness depending on whether AC is plugged in or not?  14.04, dell e7240
[23:47] <alex_nub1> Cant get it working
[23:47] <alex_nub1> Manual sucks
[23:48] <username_blahbla> thecha: no luck. Thanks for the suggestion, though
[23:51] <EriC^^> pbx: make a file in /etc/pm/power.d
[23:53] <EriC^^> pbx: type echo number > /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness
[23:54] <EriC^^> ( number is between 0 and 4800 or so, check the max_brightness file in intel_backlight )
[23:55] <EriC^^> nevermind that will run every time you disconnect or connect the ac
[23:56] <EriC^^> you'll have to add a check with upower to see if it's charging or discharging
[23:56] <teaearlgraycold> Ubuntu won't display anything after changing from an AMD gpu to an NVidia one
[23:56] <teaearlgraycold> What do I do to get back to the desktop so I can change the drivers
[23:56] <EriC^^> !nomodeset
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> EriC^^: echo numbwr | sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness
[23:58] <EriC^^> ActionParsnip: not needed as it runs as root there
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> EriC^^: makes sense, just good pracrice imho to stick to the same method for root and user :-)