[02:09] <Guest37354> am trying to upgrade 13.10 to 14.** - updater doesn't give upgrade option tried changing settings and cmd line 'do-release-upgrade' which returns 'No new release found'
[02:13] <xangua> !eol | Guest37354 did you try this
[02:17] <Guest37354> your second link doesn't exist and first link doesn't show 13.** anything
[02:20] <xangua> both false
[02:20] <Guest37354> shouldn't 'do-release-upgrade' find 14.04 and 14.10
[02:21] <xangua> well if you are using 13.10, you can only upgrade to 14.04
[02:23] <Guest37354> Yeah i know but shouldn't it find 14.04
[02:24] <Guest37354> retried links - first links to documentation that i folowed  - failed an am now here
[02:31] <Guest37354> do-release- upgrade is now doing massive sh**T will watch and pray to de ole grasshopper in de field that it works
[07:39] <NotRs> Hello, anyone on?
[07:39]  * xangua turn off
[07:40] <NotRs> turn off?
[07:44] <Luyin> NotRs: ask your question, not if anyone's on.
[07:46] <NotRs> Don’t really have a question (or problem for that matter). Was just wondering if there might be an engaging discussion happening. Seems pretty dead.
[07:47] <krytarik> !ot | NotRs
[07:48] <NotRs> ah, thank you ubottu! I was not aware of that.
[11:05] <xubuntu31w> Dear all, i have a problem with texworks on ubuntu - texworks uses the wrong appearance on my system - is there a way to make it use gtk properly?
[11:09] <brainwash> xubuntu31w: xubuntu 14.10?
[11:11] <brainwash> it's listed as known issue in the release notes -> http://xubuntu.org/news/14-10-release/
[11:11] <xubuntu31w> brainwash: yes
[11:11] <brainwash> "Qt apps don’t use the Gtk+ style by default, workaround is to install qt4-qtconfig and set the style there"
[11:11] <xubuntu31w> thanks!
[11:11] <brainwash> :)
[15:53] <craigbass1976> Anyone use Mint?  I just threw a Mint 17 DVD into a brand new TOshiba laptop and the graphics card wasnt' recognized.  But I put in a fairly new Xubuntu disc and I'm good to go.  It's just weird, and I thought the two OSes were using the same repos.
[15:55] <knome> craigbass1976, mint isn't supported on this channel, so you'll want to seek for support on their support channels
[15:55] <craigbass1976> I'm going with Xubuntu, just curious as to why one would work and the other didn't if they're using the same repos.
[15:56] <craigbass1976> Fedora didn't work either, but that's a whole other ball of wax
[15:56] <knome> they aren't using the same exact repositories/packages for each package
[15:56] <craigbass1976> Ahh.
[15:58] <knome> ...and that's one of the main reasons why we can't really do cross-support
[15:59] <craigbass1976> No, don't get me wrong; I wasn't looking for Mint support. I was just curious and didn't realize the repos weren't exactly the same.
[16:00] <knome> i understand :)
[16:01] <craigbass1976> And this brand new laptop (christmas present for my neighbor) should be running an installed Xubuntu shortly.  I love it when I can do it without even accidentally booting to Windows.
[16:02] <knome> great to hear, hope they enjoy it
[16:02] <craigbass1976> I got her hooked around xubuntu nine or ten.
[18:14] <NotRs> I’m running Xubuntu 9 live cd on a powermac G4. Is there a way to mount the internal hard drives?
[18:24] <genii> Install into the livecd the package hfsutils and hfsprogs
[18:25] <genii> You may need also hfsplus, depending on it's current fs
[18:26] <deshipu> !powerpc
[18:26] <NotRs> ah so nothing included on the live cd then?
[18:27] <genii> NotRs: It usually loads filesystem drivers for more common types like ext and fat/ntfs
[18:27] <NotRs> the fs is ext2
[18:27] <drc> NotRs: Be advised unless you installed the ISO to the media with some sort of persistence, those packages will NOT be there if you reboot the LiveCD.
[18:28] <NotRs> thanks drc I realize everything will be loaded into ram
[18:29] <drc> OK, we do sometimes get extreme newbies here, was just making sure :)
[18:30] <NotRs> lol, still gonna call myself a newb but not completely clueless
[18:30] <NotRs> I’m using gparted to get the info about the drives and I’ve tried every command i can think of.
[18:30] <genii> If the right filesystem drivers are already installed, then Thunar ( or any other file manager ) should be able to view them
[18:30] <NotRs> they simply won’t mount
[18:31] <NotRs> there are two internal hard drives. one has the mac os x install the other has a really old distro of linux.
[18:32] <genii> NotRs: If you do: dmesg | tail -n20    ...does it show any HD i/o errors? ( or similar)
[18:32] <NotRs> the old distro of linux is what I’m trying to mount
[18:32] <NotRs> one second and I’ll let you know
[18:34] <NotRs> not showing anything about HD
[18:34] <NotRs> what would lp be?
[18:34] <NotRs> for that it says driver loaded but no devices found
[18:35] <holstein> NotRs: you should entertain the possibility the drive is dead.. they dont like to just set around..
[18:35] <drc> NotRs: Can you still boot the machine into the "really old distro of linux" ?
[18:35] <holstein> you should see *something* when trying to boot it, at least
[18:36]  * drc was anticipating holstein's question :)
[18:44] <NotRs> my apologies, I had to take a call
[18:44] <NotRs> the hard drive is fine, it was in a really old computer and was booting great just a few days ago
[18:45] <NotRs> now the old computer will not boot at all (motherboard, ram? who knows)
[18:45] <NotRs> I just need to get some things off the HD, but don’t have any towers that accept IDE any more
[18:45] <drc> Rogue Santa's elves, trying to drum up business?
[18:46] <NotRs> except for the powermac g4 that is
[18:46] <NotRs> so when I connected the HD to the powermac g4, mac os x (tiger) can “see” the hd it just can’t mount the fs
[18:46] <genii> NotRs: Does it show the drive when: sudo fdisk -l    ..?
[18:47] <NotRs> that command shows the HD with mac os x but not linux
[18:47] <NotRs> gparted shows both HDs
[18:49] <genii> Veryt odd.
[18:50] <NotRs> lol good, so it’s not just me
[18:50] <genii> NotRs: Was the linux drive in a machine with EFI?
[18:50] <NotRs> nope bios
[18:50] <NotRs> 17 year old gateway
[18:51] <NotRs> when I discoverd mac os x could the hd but not mount it, I figured well load linux live cd and do it that way
[18:51] <NotRs> can’t figure out how to mount
[18:51] <drc> What was " really old distro of linux"...SLS?
[18:52] <NotRs> keep getting fstab and mtab errors
[18:52] <NotRs> Turbolinux 6.0
[18:52] <NotRs> came out in 2000 or 2001
[18:55] <genii> NotRs: Please install pastebinit  and then   dmesg | pastebinit and give us the link. I'd like to scan it for errors relating to the hd or hd controller
[18:56] <NotRs> well, that’s another hiccup I don’t have an easy way to currently connect the G4 to the internet
[18:58] <genii> Hm.
[18:59] <NotRs> I was hoping there might be some CLI command wizardry beyond by ability that might help heh
[19:00] <NotRs> I can get the G4 connected it just won’t be able to be done until later tonight
[19:00] <genii> NotRs: When you put the Linux IDE drive in the Mac, did you put it on it's own channel as master? If you used the channel the Mac's hd is on, did you explicitly set the one nearer the controller as slave and the one at the end of the ribbon as master? Or both on Cable-select?
[19:01] <NotRs> both on cable select where the Mac HD is master and the other slave. wouldn’t boot otherwise
[19:02]  * genii makes more coffee and contemplates
[19:02] <NotRs> lol
[19:03] <NotRs> I don’t know what happened with the PC it was originally running on, just decided to quit posting. I believe it may be a ram or motherboard issue
[19:05] <holstein> NotRs: one thing that *can* make is stop posting would be a bad hard drive.. those older ppc mac's can hang like that
[19:06] <holstein> NotRs: you dont need any drivers to access the drive.. the drive *is* old, and you were having issues with the machine
[19:06] <NotRs> it’s not the G4 that won’t post it’s the old gateway PC
[19:06] <holstein> NotRs: you can take the hard drive out and go to another machine, one that you know boots.. a non mac machine.. you can then see if the hard drive boots
[19:06] <NotRs> the G4 works fine it’s just the only other IDE capable tower I have
[19:06] <holstein> NotRs: sure.. but, that *still* doesnt mean the hard drive is good
[19:07] <NotRs> well… true lol
[19:07] <NotRs> I just wish I had another IDE PC
[19:07] <holstein> i think you should just entertain the idea that it could be causing the hard drive not to mount/show
[19:07] <holstein> i have a handy USB connection for that.. USB to SATA/PATA
[19:08] <NotRs> in the end I may have to buy an IDE to USB HD enclosure
[19:10] <NotRs> well I do appreciate everyone’s time in trying to help, thank you
[19:11] <holstein> NotRs: its not even an enclosure i have
[19:11] <NotRs> just an adapter?
[19:12] <holstein> NotRs: thats what im saying
[19:12] <holstein> NotRs: its handy for doing *exactly* what it seems you are trying to do.. hook a drive up and get things off.. or whatever
[19:12] <NotRs> yep
[19:12] <holstein> im not interested in an external enclosure for my 10 year old drives
[19:13] <NotRs> fair enough, all I’ve ever seen were the IDE enclosures though
[19:13] <holstein> NotRs: sure. .these are less expensive.. i got mine on sale from amazon for under $10 US
[19:14] <NotRs> nice! thanks for the tip!
[19:16] <NotRs> http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-2-0-to-IDE-SATA-S-ATA-2-5-3-5-Hard-Drive-HD-HDD-Converter-Adapter-Cable-New-/331250999094?_trksid=p2054897.l4275
[19:16] <NotRs> I think we have a winner heh
[19:19] <NotRs> well I need to leave. have a great one
[20:00] <thx> hi. i'm with problems when a close my notebook lid.
[20:00] <thx> can someone help-me?
[20:24] <drc> thx: It might help if you gave a little more detail, Say "Hi, I installed Xubunt XX.XX on a XXXX laptop.  When I close the lid and reopen it, the screen stays black.  I've checked  XXXX and YYYY and the configurations there seem (to me) to indicate that it should not do this."
[20:25] <drc> !detail
[20:25] <drc> huh
[20:26] <thx> sorry
[20:29] <thx> I'm running Xubuntu 14.04 on inspiron 14z and when I close my lid and reopen it, the screen stays black. Searching on google I saw information about enable light blocker, but this recipe doesn't work.
[23:27] <xubuntu347> Hi, could some ]
[23:28] <xubuntu347> could someone please tell me which steps to follow in order to update firefox?
[23:29] <xubuntu347> I have already downloaded it... but I don't have the option to run it...
[23:29] <xubuntu347> help please!!
[23:32] <GeekAfk> I've just installed xubuntu onto a thinkpad X60
[23:32] <GeekDude> the screen keeps shutting off randomly while in use
[23:36] <GeekDude> actually, a thinkpad x61
[23:38] <GeekDude> It seems to happen consistently when I open firefox, then go to the page to install google chrome
[23:38] <GeekDude> FF freezes up, then the screen turns off
[23:44] <GeekDude> dmesg indicates that the graphics crashed
[23:44] <GeekDude> it says the crash could've occurred anywhere in the graphics stack, including userspace