| MrSavage | Gu akk | 02:54 |
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| MrSavage | Hi all | 02:54 |
| MrSavage | Trying out this distro | 02:54 |
| MrSavage | seems pretty cool, only thing bothering me is that you're using nautilus for the file manager | 02:55 |
| darkxst | MrSavage, nautilus is the GNOME file manager so of course we use it | 03:16 |
| darkxst | of course you are free to use any other filemanager if you prefer | 03:16 |
| MrSavage | darkxst: how can i change the defaults to nemo? | 03:19 |
| MrSavage | oh well i'm going to bed | 03:19 |
| indistylo | I am using ubuntu 12.04, since long time Battery indicator is not showing up in gnome applet, How can i resolve it | 10:13 |
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| mgedmin | indistylo, remind me please, what version of gnome-shell is in 12.04? | 11:27 |
| indistylo | mgedmin : gnome-session 3.2.1 | 11:48 |
| amjjawad | hello indistylo | 11:50 |
| amjjawad | why not try Ubuntu GNOME 14.10 or 14.04 ? | 11:51 |
| indistylo | amjjawad: Same issue with that, too | 13:03 |
| mgedmin | is there a setting for hiding the battery icon? | 13:07 |
| mgedmin | there used to be a long time ago | 13:07 |
| mgedmin | indistylo, if you open the gnome-shell menu on the top-right corner, does it mention a battery? | 13:08 |
| mgedmin | http://i.imgur.com/0IxPqCO.png | 13:09 |
| indistylo | mgedmin: No it does not mention battery | 13:34 |
| mgedmin | ok, do you have upowerd running? | 13:35 |
| mgedmin | does upower -d show information about your battery? | 13:35 |
| indistylo | mgedmin : Check this http://paste.ubuntu.com/9550604/ | 13:44 |
| mgedmin | it seems your upower thinks you don't have a battery | 13:45 |
| mgedmin | ls /sys/class/power_supply/ | 13:46 |
| mgedmin | I have AC and BAT0 there | 13:46 |
| mgedmin | do you? | 13:46 |
| indistylo | mgedmin : At present while I am talking to you, My Laptop is presently running on battery and this information is not shown in upower -d | 13:46 |
| indistylo | the option on-battery : no | 13:46 |
| indistylo | ls /sys/class/power_supply > ACAD | 13:48 |
| indistylo | So now can you help me to zero on the issue, I will be thankful to you. | 13:48 |
| mgedmin | looks like the kernel module is missing | 13:49 |
| indistylo | ok so how it can be curbed out | 13:49 |
| mgedmin | I think on my laptop the battery driver is thinkpad_acpi | 13:51 |
| mgedmin | because it's a thinkpad :) | 13:51 |
| indistylo | You can check my kernel info http://paste.ubuntu.com/9550654/ | 13:51 |
| indistylo | There is ATI radeon on my Toshiba, recently i updated kernel. openGL also stopped working. I think they have withdraw the support for my series card., thinking to install "fglrx-legacy " | 13:53 |
| mgedmin | that doesn't really say anything useful about this problem | 13:53 |
| mgedmin | the laptop vendor and model might be useful | 13:53 |
| indistylo | mgedmin : Check this http://paste.ubuntu.com/9550671/ | 13:55 |
| mgedmin | a battery is not a pci device | 13:55 |
| indistylo | I suppose this may help you something to figure out | 13:55 |
| mgedmin | cat /sys/class/dmi/id/sys_vendor | 13:57 |
| mgedmin | cat /sys/class/dmi/id/product_name | 13:57 |
| mgedmin | cat /sys/class/dmi/id/product_version | 13:57 |
| indistylo | ok thanks for making me learn that | 13:58 |
| indistylo | mgedmin, Requested info, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9550707/ | 14:00 |
| mgedmin | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/995794 | 14:00 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 995794 in linux (Ubuntu) "toshiba l640 battery not detected in ubuntu 12.04" [Medium,Expired] | 14:01 |
| indistylo | ok so according to that thread this is a bug and as of now it cant be fixed. is it? | 14:03 |
| mgedmin | what happens next: you click on "does this bug affect you", say yes, maybe post a comment saying "this is still a problem in ubuntu 14.10" (or whichever latest version you tested) | 14:04 |
| mgedmin | at best the bug will be reopened and you'll get a few questions like "can you try the latest upstream kernel from this PPA and tell us if this is still a bug" | 14:04 |
| mgedmin | and if it is "can you report this upstream following the instructions at ..." | 14:04 |
| mgedmin | but basically the ubuntu people aren't likely to fix the bug | 14:04 |
| mgedmin | because there are many many bugs and very few paid developers | 14:04 |
| mgedmin | and they don't have the hardware to test everything | 14:05 |
| mgedmin | if you have the patience to follow the instructions and report upstream (which means I don't-even-know what, a mail to the linux-kernel list? cc: to the acpi maintainer?) | 14:06 |
| mgedmin | maybe this'll get fixed | 14:06 |
| mgedmin | omg the workaround at http://techinterplay.com/fix-toshiba-battery-issue-linux.html | 14:06 |
| mgedmin | oooh https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15707 | 14:08 |
| ubot5 | bugzilla.kernel.org bug 15707 in EC "_REG evaluation required while no EC OperationRegion" [Normal,Closed: code_fix] | 14:08 |
| mgedmin | indicates that this was supposed to be fixed some time in 2012, assuming it's really the same bug | 14:08 |
| indistylo | That solution is partial one and does not solves the problem in its totality | 14:09 |
| mgedmin | so this is supposed to be fixed in kernel 3.11 | 14:09 |
| mgedmin | and hey, you pasted uname output already :) | 14:09 |
| mgedmin | 3.2.0 | 14:10 |
| mgedmin | but then you said you also had the problem with ubuntu 14.10? that should have a 3.16.0 kernel | 14:10 |
| indistylo | It shows some error hence I might think to drop that idea to follow that thread | 14:10 |
| mgedmin | I don't know which solution you're talking about -- using a custom DSDT? I wouldn't do that, I'd try to get this fixed upstream | 14:11 |
| indistylo | Ya it shows same problem, I cant figure out what the problem it is | 14:11 |
| indistylo | I am talking about this http://techinterplay.com/fix-toshiba-battery-issue-linux.html | 14:11 |
| mgedmin | if I were you I'd open a new bug at bugzilla.kernel.org | 14:12 |
| mgedmin | mention the hardware (Toshiba L640), the problem (battery not detected: ls /sys/class/power_supply lists only ACAD), the kernel version (but surely after repeating the tests on something newer than 3.2.0!) | 14:13 |
| mgedmin | oh, and I'd attach my /var/log/dmesg | 14:13 |
| mgedmin | maybe mention that "this was supposed to be fixed in 3.11 according to bug 15707, so this might be a different bug" | 14:14 |
| ubot5 | bug 15707 in ifupdown (Ubuntu) "ifupdown: new changes from Debian require merging" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15707 | 14:14 |
| mgedmin | no, silly ubot5, this bug number was on bugzilla.kernel.org, not on launchpad :) | 14:14 |
| indistylo | ok I will do that, I suppose that will suffice the problem if mere reporting help the issue to solve | 14:19 |
| MrSavage | Hi all | 14:22 |
| MrSavage | Hi all | 14:36 |
| MrSavage | Is there a way to splay out all opened windows? | 14:36 |
| MrSavage | Also when I use activities? Can I get an icon in the middle of the window? | 14:36 |
| MrSavage | It's hard to see what's the the actual window being displayed but an icon would help me realize what it is | 14:37 |
| mgedmin | "splay out"? like Expose? press <Super> aka the Windows key | 14:37 |
| mgedmin | which is what you do when you use activities, so I don't understand your first question | 14:37 |
| mgedmin | as for icons, search in extensions.gnome.org, I think there was something that added icons to the overview window views | 14:37 |
| MrSavage | mgedmin: yes splay out in that manner | 14:40 |
| MrSavage | thanks | 14:40 |
| MrSavage | just installed ubuntu gnome, trying to get used to this | 14:40 |
| MrSavage | the only thing i dislike about gnome 3 is that for small windows it's hard to see | 14:51 |
| MrSavage | if i have a dialogue/popup, then i don't see it too well in activies | 14:51 |
| MrSavage | activies* | 14:52 |
| MrSavage | Another thing is that I can't change the date formation, i can't make it say Decemeber 16, | 14:55 |
| MrSavage | luckily there's an extension for that | 14:56 |
| MrSavage | how can i move the title of the window to be beside the icon? | 15:10 |
| MrSavage | When i press the <Super> key, how can I make the title of the window be beside the icon? | 15:17 |
| MrSavage | or at least move the title of the window? | 15:17 |
| MrSavage | I want to make the font bigger as well | 15:17 |
| MrSavage | mgedmin: would you know? | 15:17 |
| mgedmin | that's a job for an extension | 15:19 |
| MrSavage | i can't seem to find one | 15:21 |
| mgedmin | I guess you need to write one then | 15:22 |
| mgedmin | or find somebody to write it for you | 15:22 |
| mgedmin | or live with the standard layout | 15:22 |
| MrSavage | i guess i could write it but i'm not familiar with gnome lol | 15:24 |
| mgedmin | are you familiar with javascript? | 15:25 |
| MrSavage | Also i can't seem to open backups | 15:25 |
| MrSavage | mgedmin: yes i worked in it before | 15:25 |
| MrSavage | I just don't know where these configuration files are | 15:25 |
| MrSavage | such as the files holding values for text of the windows | 15:26 |
| MrSavage | being font size, and location | 15:26 |
| MrSavage | does gnome have an api for this? | 15:26 |
| mgedmin | https://github.com/GNOME/gnome-shell/tree/master/js/ui/ is the core gnome-shell code | 15:26 |
| mgedmin | it's all done in JS | 15:26 |
| MrSavage | nice | 15:27 |
| mgedmin | you could download the extension that adds window icons and see how it does that | 15:27 |
| mgedmin | I see an "overview.js" but it doesn't seem to contain the code for positioning window titles | 15:27 |
| MrSavage | mgedmin: and am i able to publish easily or it needs to be trialed first? | 15:27 |
| MrSavage | mgedmin: yeah i got that extension | 15:27 |
| mgedmin | I've never written an extension | 15:28 |
| MrSavage | it sounds easy enough. it's just annoying that i have to hunch over to read the window titles in activity | 15:28 |
| MrSavage | way too tiny to read | 15:28 |
| mgedmin | afaics anyone can upload a new extension | 15:28 |
| MrSavage | afaics? | 15:28 |
| mgedmin | as far as I can see | 15:29 |
| mgedmin | i.e. it lets me go to https://extensions.gnome.org/upload/ and asks me for a file to upload, after I log in using my gnome.org account | 15:29 |
| mgedmin | (which was also trivial to set up a while ago when I needed it to rate existing extensions) | 15:29 |
| mgedmin | speaking of font size | 15:29 |
| mgedmin | perhaps you can change it via gnome-tweak-tool? | 15:30 |
| MrSavage | so gnome's UI is all in javascript? | 15:30 |
| MrSavage | mgedmin: i already looked | 15:30 |
| mgedmin | or you can enable large text from the accessibility control panel | 15:30 |
| mgedmin | or the font scaling thingy in gnome-tweak-tool | 15:30 |
| mgedmin | (I wonder if that's the same knob that accessibility uses?) | 15:30 |
| MrSavage | fuck, i set the dpi to 50 and i can't even see the whole ui | 15:31 |
| MrSavage | I can't see the bottom of this chat | 15:31 |
| MrSavage | and i'm unable to see the text bar for cahnging the DPI | 15:31 |
| MrSavage | I need help, i'm stuck with this | 15:33 |
| mgedmin | hold on | 15:35 |
| MrSavage | what's the command for changing the dpi | 15:35 |
| MrSavage | i'll do it through tty1 | 15:35 |
| mgedmin | eh, gnome 3.14 has no setting for font dpi | 15:35 |
| mgedmin | remind me please what gnome version you have and how you changed it? | 15:36 |
| mgedmin | in tweak-tool? | 15:36 |
| mgedmin | you can alt-drag windows by grabbing them in the middle | 15:36 |
| MrSavage | i can't see the whole window | 15:36 |
| MrSavage | and i tried, it won't let me drag it up | 15:36 |
| mgedmin | and move their topmost part above the top of the screen | 15:36 |
| MrSavage | it's glitching out | 15:36 |
| mgedmin | that way you can see the bottom of a window that is too larget to fit | 15:36 |
| mgedmin | it's a life-saver on tiny netbook screens and situations like yours | 15:37 |
| MrSavage | it won't go past the top of the screen | 15:37 |
| MrSavage | :S | 15:37 |
| MrSavage | it keeps resetting | 15:37 |
| mgedmin | huh? | 15:37 |
| mgedmin | what do you mean by "resetting"? | 15:37 |
| MrSavage | it just moves itself back down | 15:37 |
| mgedmin | weird | 15:38 |
| mgedmin | in a terminal try gsettings list-recursively | grep dpi | 15:38 |
| mgedmin | or grep for the DPI value you selected | 15:38 |
| mgedmin | find the name of the setting | 15:38 |
| mgedmin | then gsettings reset org.gnome.whatever that-setting | 15:39 |
| MrSavage | dj@ShodanV4:~$ gsettings list-recursively | grep dpi | 15:39 |
| MrSavage | org.gnome.SimpleScan text-dpi 150 | 15:39 |
| MrSavage | org.gnome.SimpleScan photo-dpi 300 | 15:39 |
| MrSavage | dj@ShodanV4:~$ | 15:39 |
| mgedmin | should change it back to the default value | 15:39 |
| MrSavage | those? | 15:39 |
| mgedmin | no | 15:39 |
| mgedmin | I don't know what the setting is called, maybe not dpi | 15:39 |
| mgedmin | as I said gnome 3.14 doesn't have a dpi setting in gnome-tweak-tool | 15:39 |
| MrSavage | am i gonna have to reinstall gnome... | 15:40 |
| mgedmin | no | 15:40 |
| mgedmin | you can reset ALL THE SETTINGS if you don't mind losing them | 15:40 |
| mgedmin | gsettings reset-recursively | 15:41 |
| MrSavage | sure | 15:41 |
| mgedmin | hmm, it needs a schema name :/ | 15:41 |
| mgedmin | try org.gnome.desktop.interface | 15:41 |
| MrSavage | :S | 15:41 |
| mgedmin | org.gnome.desktop.interface text-scaling-factor is the thing for zooming text in gnome 3.14 (maybe older versions too?) | 15:41 |
| MrSavage | didn't fix it | 15:42 |
| mgedmin | :( | 15:43 |
| mgedmin | I wish I knew what setting you changed | 15:43 |
| mgedmin | can you tell me what app you used? | 15:43 |
| MrSavage | tweak | 15:43 |
| MrSavage | i think desktop | 15:43 |
| MrSavage | or windows | 15:43 |
| MrSavage | at the bottom dpi | 15:43 |
| MrSavage | set that stupid thing to 50 | 15:43 |
| MrSavage | can't even click in firefox | 15:44 |
| MrSavage | due to this buggy ass option | 15:44 |
| MrSavage | this is ridiculous | 15:44 |
| mgedmin | I'm mystified by your inability to move windows | 15:45 |
| MrSavage | and why wouldn't gsettings have a default all options | 15:45 |
| MrSavage | mgedmin: i'm able to move the terminal | 15:45 |
| MrSavage | but the gsettings likes to move back | 15:45 |
| MrSavage | i mean the tweak tool | 15:45 |
| MrSavage | i'm able to move hexchat too | 15:45 |
| MrSavage | but tweak tool is stubborn in staying after moving | 15:45 |
| mgedmin | aha! the scaling factor overrides need an xsetting | 15:47 |
| mgedmin | which is a thing I don't understand | 15:47 |
| mgedmin | but it lives in org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.xsettings | 15:47 |
| mgedmin | so try gsettings reset org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.xsettings overrides ? | 15:47 |
| MrSavage | ah it's fixed | 15:48 |
| MrSavage | thank god | 15:48 |
| MrSavage | i'll upload images of the bug | 15:48 |
| mgedmin | whee | 15:48 |
| mgedmin | yes please | 15:48 |
| MrSavage | it also made my clicking messed up | 15:49 |
| MrSavage | it wouldn't click where i'm actually pointing | 15:49 |
| mgedmin | ouch | 15:50 |
| MrSavage | http://imgur.com/a/7DlaO | 15:50 |
| mgedmin | can you screenshot the tweak-tool setting page with the dpi setting? | 15:50 |
| MrSavage | yeah | 15:50 |
| MrSavage | http://i.imgur.com/73Gm8MR.png | 15:51 |
| MrSavage | @ mgedmin | 15:51 |
| meetingology | MrSavage: Error: "mgedmin" is not a valid command. | 15:51 |
| mgedmin | ah, the HiDPI setting | 15:52 |
| mgedmin | and you set it to 0.5, not 50 :) | 15:52 |
| mgedmin | wait or did you actually set it to 50? I don't think that would be allowed | 15:52 |
| MrSavage | I don't even want to touch it because of that lol | 15:52 |
| MrSavage | yes i set it to 50 | 15:52 |
| MrSavage | and it messed up my desktop so badly | 15:52 |
| mgedmin | yeah, making all the windows 50 times bigger would be unpleasant | 15:52 |
| MrSavage | .5 doesn't work | 15:52 |
| mgedmin | I want to try! | 15:52 |
| MrSavage | lol | 15:52 |
| MrSavage | you | 15:53 |
| MrSavage | will | 15:53 |
| MrSavage | regret it | 15:53 |
| mgedmin | ok, typing in "50" changes it to "2" actually | 15:53 |
| mgedmin | and I can move gnome-tweak-tool to above the screen | 15:53 |
| MrSavage | 2 also makes it messed up | 15:54 |
| MrSavage | just tested it | 15:54 |
| mgedmin | well, as long as I don't let my mouse cursor touch the top, since that would make the window maximized | 15:54 |
| MrSavage | Yeah i tried moving it by 1 mm each time | 15:54 |
| MrSavage | but it would move back if i moved it up too much | 15:54 |
| mgedmin | what gnome-shell version do you have? | 15:54 |
| MrSavage | that setting is so buggy | 15:54 |
| MrSavage | it only lets me choose 1 or 2, and it makes the same buggy desktop | 15:54 |
| MrSavage | how do i check my version of gnome-shell? | 15:55 |
| mgedmin | this is for window scaling for people who have high resolution monitors (e.g. 4K) | 15:55 |
| mgedmin | you don't want it | 15:55 |
| mgedmin | you maybe want the font scaling, which can also be set to 1.5 | 15:55 |
| mgedmin | in a terminal gnome-shell --version will print it | 15:55 |
| MrSavage | http://i.imgur.com/73Gm8MR.png | 15:56 |
| MrSavage | woops | 15:56 |
| MrSavage | GNOME Shell 3.12.2 | 15:56 |
| mgedmin | 'k | 15:56 |
| MrSavage | i installed ubuntu-gnome 4.10 | 15:56 |
| mgedmin | 14.10, yes, it comes with 3.12 | 15:56 |
| mgedmin | but some people also enable the PPA with gnome 3.14 | 15:57 |
| mgedmin | so it's not safe to assume everyone running ubuntu-gnome 14.10 has gnome 3.12 | 15:57 |
| MrSavage | mgedmin: I also noticed there's a problem fullscreening liveleak videos | 16:13 |
| MrSavage | nevermind.. | 16:14 |
| MrSavage | It's not happening now | 16:14 |
| MrSavage | are there problems with fullscreen applications though? Such as games? | 16:14 |
| mgedmin | dunno, haven't played any in a while | 16:14 |
| mgedmin | I can <f11> fullscreen a browser fine | 16:15 |
| MrSavage | mgedmin: I mean openGL | 16:15 |
| mgedmin | 3d drivers are always a pain :( | 16:15 |
| MrSavage | the drivers aren't the issue | 16:17 |
| MrSavage | i mean | 16:45 |
| MrSavage | My drivers shouldn't be an issue | 16:45 |
| octoquad | MAE all :) | 16:58 |
| octoquad | Can some one tell me what "ricotz" is as mentioned here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1386815 | 17:27 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1386815 in Ubuntu GNOME "gedit assert failure: *** stack smashing detected ***: /usr/bin/gedit terminated" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 17:27 |
| MrSavage | How can I make it so the the favourites dock gives the option to close the program there? | 18:37 |
| MrSavage | I'm getting a weird issues when using vim in terminal | 19:07 |
| MrSavage | the commands are very delayed | 19:07 |
| MrSavage | Why is there delay when using Esc? | 19:19 |
| darkxst | octoquad, https://launchpad.net/~ricotz | 20:34 |
| octoquad | aah lol | 20:41 |
| darkxst | Noskcaj, gtk should land on friday, can you start preparing re-merges (and put in a ppa) clutter/mutter/gnome-shell/g-s-d/g-c-c/gnome-themes-standard? | 20:54 |
| darkxst | gtk is here: https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-008 | 20:55 |
| MrSavage | how can I get shell themes? | 20:58 |
| darkxst | MrSavage, you will find plenty on google | 20:59 |
| darkxst | theres quiet a few on deviantart | 20:59 |
| octoquad | MrSavage, I currently use Moka: http://mokaproject.com/ | 21:03 |
| MrsSavage | octoquad: is moka supposed to make the title bar darker? | 21:09 |
| Noskcaj | darkxst, ok | 21:29 |
| MrSavage | hey all | 21:36 |
| octoquad | hello :) | 21:36 |
| MrSavage | so i'm fixing up my themes | 21:37 |
| MrSavage | why don't i see window themes on gnome eye candy? | 21:37 |
| MrSavage | on gnome-look.org | 21:39 |
| Noskcaj | darkxst, should gnome-themes-standard recommend gnome-icon-theme, adwaita-icon-icon, or gnome-icon-theme | adwaita-icon-icon | 22:07 |
| octoquad | darkxst, for input sources, is it normal for new input sources to be missing from the login screen, but available again after login? | 22:10 |
| octoquad | one more question am I suppose to be testing vivid + main ppa + staging ppa or will updates for gnome trickle in to vivid at some point? | 22:44 |
| amjjawad | darkxst, good morning :) I wonder if you're around? I still can't see the images on here: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/328/builds | 23:27 |
| amjjawad | should we wait? or should we contact the release team darkxst ? | 23:27 |
| darkxst | amjjawad, contact release team | 23:58 |
| darkxst | Noskcaj, I think gnome-icon-theme | adwaita-icon-theme, would be ok | 23:59 |
| darkxst | we are going to have to pull in adwaita-icon-theme somehow, without affecting ubuntu since they are not using it yet | 23:59 |
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