[02:54] Gu akk [02:54] Hi all [02:54] Trying out this distro [02:55] seems pretty cool, only thing bothering me is that you're using nautilus for the file manager [03:16] MrSavage, nautilus is the GNOME file manager so of course we use it [03:16] of course you are free to use any other filemanager if you prefer [03:19] darkxst: how can i change the defaults to nemo? [03:19] oh well i'm going to bed [10:13] I am using ubuntu 12.04, since long time Battery indicator is not showing up in gnome applet, How can i resolve it === hyperdrive is now known as hdrv [11:27] indistylo, remind me please, what version of gnome-shell is in 12.04? [11:48] mgedmin : gnome-session 3.2.1 [11:50] hello indistylo [11:51] why not try Ubuntu GNOME 14.10 or 14.04 ? [13:03] amjjawad: Same issue with that, too [13:07] is there a setting for hiding the battery icon? [13:07] there used to be a long time ago [13:08] indistylo, if you open the gnome-shell menu on the top-right corner, does it mention a battery? [13:09] http://i.imgur.com/0IxPqCO.png [13:34] mgedmin: No it does not mention battery [13:35] ok, do you have upowerd running? [13:35] does upower -d show information about your battery? [13:44] mgedmin : Check this http://paste.ubuntu.com/9550604/ [13:45] it seems your upower thinks you don't have a battery [13:46] ls /sys/class/power_supply/ [13:46] I have AC and BAT0 there [13:46] do you? [13:46] mgedmin : At present while I am talking to you, My Laptop is presently running on battery and this information is not shown in upower -d [13:46] the option on-battery : no [13:48] ls /sys/class/power_supply > ACAD [13:48] So now can you help me to zero on the issue, I will be thankful to you. [13:49] looks like the kernel module is missing [13:49] ok so how it can be curbed out [13:51] I think on my laptop the battery driver is thinkpad_acpi [13:51] because it's a thinkpad :) [13:51] You can check my kernel info http://paste.ubuntu.com/9550654/ [13:53] There is ATI radeon on my Toshiba, recently i updated kernel. openGL also stopped working. I think they have withdraw the support for my series card., thinking to install "fglrx-legacy " [13:53] that doesn't really say anything useful about this problem [13:53] the laptop vendor and model might be useful [13:55] mgedmin : Check this http://paste.ubuntu.com/9550671/ [13:55] a battery is not a pci device [13:55] I suppose this may help you something to figure out [13:57] cat /sys/class/dmi/id/sys_vendor [13:57] cat /sys/class/dmi/id/product_name [13:57] cat /sys/class/dmi/id/product_version [13:58] ok thanks for making me learn that [14:00] mgedmin, Requested info, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9550707/ [14:00] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/995794 [14:01] Launchpad bug 995794 in linux (Ubuntu) "toshiba l640 battery not detected in ubuntu 12.04" [Medium,Expired] [14:03] ok so according to that thread this is a bug and as of now it cant be fixed. is it? [14:04] what happens next: you click on "does this bug affect you", say yes, maybe post a comment saying "this is still a problem in ubuntu 14.10" (or whichever latest version you tested) [14:04] at best the bug will be reopened and you'll get a few questions like "can you try the latest upstream kernel from this PPA and tell us if this is still a bug" [14:04] and if it is "can you report this upstream following the instructions at ..." [14:04] but basically the ubuntu people aren't likely to fix the bug [14:04] because there are many many bugs and very few paid developers [14:05] and they don't have the hardware to test everything [14:06] if you have the patience to follow the instructions and report upstream (which means I don't-even-know what, a mail to the linux-kernel list? cc: to the acpi maintainer?) [14:06] maybe this'll get fixed [14:06] omg the workaround at http://techinterplay.com/fix-toshiba-battery-issue-linux.html [14:08] oooh https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15707 [14:08] bugzilla.kernel.org bug 15707 in EC "_REG evaluation required while no EC OperationRegion" [Normal,Closed: code_fix] [14:08] indicates that this was supposed to be fixed some time in 2012, assuming it's really the same bug [14:09] That solution is partial one and does not solves the problem in its totality [14:09] so this is supposed to be fixed in kernel 3.11 [14:09] and hey, you pasted uname output already :) [14:10] 3.2.0 [14:10] but then you said you also had the problem with ubuntu 14.10? that should have a 3.16.0 kernel [14:10] It shows some error hence I might think to drop that idea to follow that thread [14:11] I don't know which solution you're talking about -- using a custom DSDT? I wouldn't do that, I'd try to get this fixed upstream [14:11] Ya it shows same problem, I cant figure out what the problem it is [14:11] I am talking about this http://techinterplay.com/fix-toshiba-battery-issue-linux.html [14:12] if I were you I'd open a new bug at bugzilla.kernel.org [14:13] mention the hardware (Toshiba L640), the problem (battery not detected: ls /sys/class/power_supply lists only ACAD), the kernel version (but surely after repeating the tests on something newer than 3.2.0!) [14:13] oh, and I'd attach my /var/log/dmesg [14:14] maybe mention that "this was supposed to be fixed in 3.11 according to bug 15707, so this might be a different bug" [14:14] bug 15707 in ifupdown (Ubuntu) "ifupdown: new changes from Debian require merging" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15707 [14:14] no, silly ubot5, this bug number was on bugzilla.kernel.org, not on launchpad :) [14:19] ok I will do that, I suppose that will suffice the problem if mere reporting help the issue to solve [14:22] Hi all [14:36] Hi all [14:36] Is there a way to splay out all opened windows? [14:36] Also when I use activities? Can I get an icon in the middle of the window? [14:37] It's hard to see what's the the actual window being displayed but an icon would help me realize what it is [14:37] "splay out"? like Expose? press aka the Windows key [14:37] which is what you do when you use activities, so I don't understand your first question [14:37] as for icons, search in extensions.gnome.org, I think there was something that added icons to the overview window views [14:40] mgedmin: yes splay out in that manner [14:40] thanks [14:40] just installed ubuntu gnome, trying to get used to this [14:51] the only thing i dislike about gnome 3 is that for small windows it's hard to see [14:51] if i have a dialogue/popup, then i don't see it too well in activies [14:52] activies* [14:55] Another thing is that I can't change the date formation, i can't make it say Decemeber 16, [14:56] luckily there's an extension for that [15:10] how can i move the title of the window to be beside the icon? [15:17] When i press the key, how can I make the title of the window be beside the icon? [15:17] or at least move the title of the window? [15:17] I want to make the font bigger as well [15:17] mgedmin: would you know? [15:19] that's a job for an extension [15:21] i can't seem to find one [15:22] I guess you need to write one then [15:22] or find somebody to write it for you [15:22] or live with the standard layout [15:24] i guess i could write it but i'm not familiar with gnome lol [15:25] are you familiar with javascript? [15:25] Also i can't seem to open backups [15:25] mgedmin: yes i worked in it before [15:25] I just don't know where these configuration files are [15:26] such as the files holding values for text of the windows [15:26] being font size, and location [15:26] does gnome have an api for this? [15:26] https://github.com/GNOME/gnome-shell/tree/master/js/ui/ is the core gnome-shell code [15:26] it's all done in JS [15:27] nice [15:27] you could download the extension that adds window icons and see how it does that [15:27] I see an "overview.js" but it doesn't seem to contain the code for positioning window titles [15:27] mgedmin: and am i able to publish easily or it needs to be trialed first? [15:27] mgedmin: yeah i got that extension [15:28] I've never written an extension [15:28] it sounds easy enough. it's just annoying that i have to hunch over to read the window titles in activity [15:28] way too tiny to read [15:28] afaics anyone can upload a new extension [15:28] afaics? [15:29] as far as I can see [15:29] i.e. it lets me go to https://extensions.gnome.org/upload/ and asks me for a file to upload, after I log in using my gnome.org account [15:29] (which was also trivial to set up a while ago when I needed it to rate existing extensions) [15:29] speaking of font size [15:30] perhaps you can change it via gnome-tweak-tool? [15:30] so gnome's UI is all in javascript? [15:30] mgedmin: i already looked [15:30] or you can enable large text from the accessibility control panel [15:30] or the font scaling thingy in gnome-tweak-tool [15:30] (I wonder if that's the same knob that accessibility uses?) [15:31] fuck, i set the dpi to 50 and i can't even see the whole ui [15:31] I can't see the bottom of this chat [15:31] and i'm unable to see the text bar for cahnging the DPI [15:33] I need help, i'm stuck with this [15:35] hold on [15:35] what's the command for changing the dpi [15:35] i'll do it through tty1 [15:35] eh, gnome 3.14 has no setting for font dpi [15:36] remind me please what gnome version you have and how you changed it? [15:36] in tweak-tool? [15:36] you can alt-drag windows by grabbing them in the middle [15:36] i can't see the whole window [15:36] and i tried, it won't let me drag it up [15:36] and move their topmost part above the top of the screen [15:36] it's glitching out [15:36] that way you can see the bottom of a window that is too larget to fit [15:37] it's a life-saver on tiny netbook screens and situations like yours [15:37] it won't go past the top of the screen [15:37] :S [15:37] it keeps resetting [15:37] huh? [15:37] what do you mean by "resetting"? [15:37] it just moves itself back down [15:38] weird [15:38] in a terminal try gsettings list-recursively | grep dpi [15:38] or grep for the DPI value you selected [15:38] find the name of the setting [15:39] then gsettings reset org.gnome.whatever that-setting [15:39] dj@ShodanV4:~$ gsettings list-recursively | grep dpi [15:39] org.gnome.SimpleScan text-dpi 150 [15:39] org.gnome.SimpleScan photo-dpi 300 [15:39] dj@ShodanV4:~$ [15:39] should change it back to the default value [15:39] those? [15:39] no [15:39] I don't know what the setting is called, maybe not dpi [15:39] as I said gnome 3.14 doesn't have a dpi setting in gnome-tweak-tool [15:40] am i gonna have to reinstall gnome... [15:40] no [15:40] you can reset ALL THE SETTINGS if you don't mind losing them [15:41] gsettings reset-recursively [15:41] sure [15:41] hmm, it needs a schema name :/ [15:41] try org.gnome.desktop.interface [15:41] :S [15:41] org.gnome.desktop.interface text-scaling-factor is the thing for zooming text in gnome 3.14 (maybe older versions too?) [15:42] didn't fix it [15:43] :( [15:43] I wish I knew what setting you changed [15:43] can you tell me what app you used? [15:43] tweak [15:43] i think desktop [15:43] or windows [15:43] at the bottom dpi [15:43] set that stupid thing to 50 [15:44] can't even click in firefox [15:44] due to this buggy ass option [15:44] this is ridiculous [15:45] I'm mystified by your inability to move windows [15:45] and why wouldn't gsettings have a default all options [15:45] mgedmin: i'm able to move the terminal [15:45] but the gsettings likes to move back [15:45] i mean the tweak tool [15:45] i'm able to move hexchat too [15:45] but tweak tool is stubborn in staying after moving [15:47] aha! the scaling factor overrides need an xsetting [15:47] which is a thing I don't understand [15:47] but it lives in org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.xsettings [15:47] so try gsettings reset org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.xsettings overrides ? [15:48] ah it's fixed [15:48] thank god [15:48] i'll upload images of the bug [15:48] whee [15:48] yes please [15:49] it also made my clicking messed up [15:49] it wouldn't click where i'm actually pointing [15:50] ouch [15:50] http://imgur.com/a/7DlaO [15:50] can you screenshot the tweak-tool setting page with the dpi setting? [15:50] yeah [15:51] http://i.imgur.com/73Gm8MR.png [15:51] @ mgedmin [15:51] MrSavage: Error: "mgedmin" is not a valid command. [15:52] ah, the HiDPI setting [15:52] and you set it to 0.5, not 50 :) [15:52] wait or did you actually set it to 50? I don't think that would be allowed [15:52] I don't even want to touch it because of that lol [15:52] yes i set it to 50 [15:52] and it messed up my desktop so badly [15:52] yeah, making all the windows 50 times bigger would be unpleasant [15:52] .5 doesn't work [15:52] I want to try! [15:52] lol [15:53] you [15:53] will [15:53] regret it [15:53] ok, typing in "50" changes it to "2" actually [15:53] and I can move gnome-tweak-tool to above the screen [15:54] 2 also makes it messed up [15:54] just tested it [15:54] well, as long as I don't let my mouse cursor touch the top, since that would make the window maximized [15:54] Yeah i tried moving it by 1 mm each time [15:54] but it would move back if i moved it up too much [15:54] what gnome-shell version do you have? [15:54] that setting is so buggy [15:54] it only lets me choose 1 or 2, and it makes the same buggy desktop [15:55] how do i check my version of gnome-shell? [15:55] this is for window scaling for people who have high resolution monitors (e.g. 4K) [15:55] you don't want it [15:55] you maybe want the font scaling, which can also be set to 1.5 [15:55] in a terminal gnome-shell --version will print it [15:56] http://i.imgur.com/73Gm8MR.png [15:56] woops [15:56] GNOME Shell 3.12.2 [15:56] 'k [15:56] i installed ubuntu-gnome 4.10 [15:56] 14.10, yes, it comes with 3.12 [15:57] but some people also enable the PPA with gnome 3.14 [15:57] so it's not safe to assume everyone running ubuntu-gnome 14.10 has gnome 3.12 [16:13] mgedmin: I also noticed there's a problem fullscreening liveleak videos [16:14] nevermind.. [16:14] It's not happening now [16:14] are there problems with fullscreen applications though? Such as games? [16:14] dunno, haven't played any in a while [16:15] I can fullscreen a browser fine [16:15] mgedmin: I mean openGL [16:15] 3d drivers are always a pain :( [16:17] the drivers aren't the issue [16:45] i mean [16:45] My drivers shouldn't be an issue [16:58] MAE all :) [17:27] Can some one tell me what "ricotz" is as mentioned here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1386815 [17:27] Launchpad bug 1386815 in Ubuntu GNOME "gedit assert failure: *** stack smashing detected ***: /usr/bin/gedit terminated" [Undecided,Incomplete] [18:37] How can I make it so the the favourites dock gives the option to close the program there? [19:07] I'm getting a weird issues when using vim in terminal [19:07] the commands are very delayed [19:19] Why is there delay when using Esc? [20:34] octoquad, https://launchpad.net/~ricotz [20:41] aah lol [20:54] Noskcaj, gtk should land on friday, can you start preparing re-merges (and put in a ppa) clutter/mutter/gnome-shell/g-s-d/g-c-c/gnome-themes-standard? [20:55] gtk is here: https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-008 [20:58] how can I get shell themes? [20:59] MrSavage, you will find plenty on google [20:59] theres quiet a few on deviantart [21:03] MrSavage, I currently use Moka: http://mokaproject.com/ [21:09] octoquad: is moka supposed to make the title bar darker? [21:29] darkxst, ok [21:36] hey all [21:36] hello :) [21:37] so i'm fixing up my themes [21:37] why don't i see window themes on gnome eye candy? [21:39] on gnome-look.org [22:07] darkxst, should gnome-themes-standard recommend gnome-icon-theme, adwaita-icon-icon, or gnome-icon-theme | adwaita-icon-icon [22:10] darkxst, for input sources, is it normal for new input sources to be missing from the login screen, but available again after login? [22:44] one more question am I suppose to be testing vivid + main ppa + staging ppa or will updates for gnome trickle in to vivid at some point? [23:27] darkxst, good morning :) I wonder if you're around? I still can't see the images on here: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/328/builds [23:27] should we wait? or should we contact the release team darkxst ? [23:58] amjjawad, contact release team [23:59] Noskcaj, I think gnome-icon-theme | adwaita-icon-theme, would be ok [23:59] we are going to have to pull in adwaita-icon-theme somehow, without affecting ubuntu since they are not using it yet