[18:02] <Tm_T> hm
[18:02] <hggdh> #startmeeting IRC Team
[18:02] <meetingology> Meeting started Wed Dec 17 18:02:29 2014 UTC.  The chair is hggdh. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[18:02] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[18:03] <hggdh> well. Welcome to another monthly meeting of the IRC Team. I do not expect much work today, so
[18:03] <hggdh> it should be fast...
[18:04] <hggdh> #chair Tm_T
[18:04] <meetingology> Current chairs: Tm_T hggdh
[18:04] <hggdh> #topic all: IRC team meeting in  4 minutes
[18:04] <hggdh> dammit
[18:04] <hggdh> #topic Review last meetings action items
[18:04] <hggdh> ah now it is better.
[18:05] <hggdh> I do not remember, or see, and pending items. Am I wrong?
[18:05] <Tm_T> sorry I'm bit out of the loop currently
[18:06] <hggdh> we move on
[18:06] <hggdh> #topic Open items in the IRCC tracker
[18:06] <hggdh> I myself do not have access to the IRCC tracker; one single item comes to my mind, though
[18:07] <hggdh> we opened nominations for the two available slots on the IRC Council, and we finally have (more than) enough candidates
[18:08] <hggdh> so I sent the list to the CC, and am now waiting on their feedback.
[18:08] <hggdh> As soon as I have it I intend to start the voting.
[18:08] <rww> \o/
[18:08] <Tm_T> I am also waiting to be able to start rallying people to vote for IRCC nominations (:
[18:09] <hggdh> heh
[18:09] <Tm_T> we really need more blood to our ranks
[18:09] <rww> oh, I had a question
[18:09] <hggdh> indeed. Preferably warm blood ;-)... we have been sort of out of circulation
[18:09] <hggdh> rww: please go ahead
[18:09] <rww> Are those slots going to be full-term positions, or replacement positions for the rest of the term of the people they're replacing
[18:10] <Tm_T> full term I hope
[18:10] <hggdh> I do not know. I would personally consider them full-term; I expect I will be corrected if needed.
[18:10] <hggdh> I will ask the CC about that
[18:10] <rww> I'd guess full-term, but figured someone should decide *before* the results for the avoidance of doubt
[18:10] <hggdh> rww: agree
[18:11] <hggdh> #action hggdh to verify length of term for the two slots
[18:11] <meetingology> ACTION: hggdh to verify length of term for the two slots
[18:11] <Pici> I am here now.
[18:11] <hggdh> #chair Pici
[18:11] <meetingology> Current chairs: Pici Tm_T hggdh
[18:11]  * Tm_T huggles Pici 
[18:11] <Pici> (sorry, got distracted)
[18:11] <Pici> huzzah
[18:12] <hggdh> Any other point to be raised?
[18:12] <hggdh> #topic Review Bugs related to the Ubuntu IRC Council
[18:12] <Tm_T> biiig request at this point: let's have some calendar event for these IRCC meetings thad do have reminders
[18:12] <Tm_T> as I keep missing the meetings /:
[18:12] <hggdh> we only have one bug -- bug 892501
[18:13] <hggdh> we have had some work done on replacement bots, but I am not up-to-date on it. anyone present cares to enlighten us?
[18:14] <Pici> As I stated at the last meeting, we have unopaste right now, and Drone` is watching #ubuntu, but doesn't actually perform any actions based on what it sees.
[18:15] <Pici> Has anyone been paying attention to what it reports in -ops-monitor? Any concerns?
[18:15] <Unit193> (Slight correction: It watches: #ubuntustudio, #xubuntu, #kubuntu, #lubuntu, #ubuntu, and #ubuntu+1.)
[18:16] <Tm_T> I have reading it occasionally but honestly I don't think I'm qualified to judge it as I am so badly out of the loop in this matter
[18:16] <Tm_T> +been
[18:16]  * hggdh does not have access to -ops-monitor
[18:16] <rww> I don't have concerns about Drone`, personally.
[18:17] <hggdh> #topic review of the factoid review review
[18:17] <hggdh> I think we are going into too many reviews here
[18:17] <hggdh> any reason why we should be (re)visiting this?
[18:18] <Pici> hggdh: you have acccess now.
[18:18] <rww> i think that one can go off the agenda from now on
[18:18] <hggdh> Pici: ack, thank you
[18:18] <hggdh> rww: +1
[18:18] <Tm_T> +1 to rww
[18:19] <Pici> I agree.
[18:19]  * hggdh waits another 10 seconds...
[18:19] <hggdh> ok
[18:19] <hggdh> #topic Call for Operators
[18:20] <hggdh> we do not have an open call for operators, but we do have some people asking to join
[18:20] <hggdh> since I am not familiar with this piece of the game, I would rather pass the baton over to Tm_T or Pici
[18:21] <Tm_T> yay!
[18:21] <Tm_T> one moment
[18:21] <hggdh> (this, of course, is one of the reasons why I added both as chairs)
[18:22]  * hggdh is now, happily, an observer
[18:23] <Pici> hi, sorry, got up from my desk for a moment.
[18:23] <Tm_T> hggdh: where?
[18:23] <Pici> So, we have a few pending people on the list.  I think the ones who are already operators should be approved, but the others seem to be somewhat random.
[18:24] <Tm_T> aah
[18:24] <Tm_T> Pici: agreed
[18:24] <rww> fwiw, all of my op requests are because of troll activity that I was unable to stop because I wasn't opped at the time
[18:24] <Unit193> http://paste.openstack.org/show/sTHCiu7Hpq54edInwajG/
[18:24] <Pici> Unit193: nice.
[18:26] <Pici> What do the numbers mean?
[18:26] <rww> launchpad karma
[18:26] <Pici> ah
[18:26] <Tm_T> +1 for Valorie and Robert, Popey looks suspicious so don't know about him
[18:26] <hggdh> po who?
[18:26] <Tm_T> maaaaaybe we can give him some rights too
[18:27] <Tm_T> hggdh: Alan Pope
[18:27] <rww> we could always give him access and then #blamepopey for everything
[18:27] <Tm_T> hggdh: and I'm joking (:
[18:27] <Tm_T> rww: true
[18:27] <hggdh> heh, I know, was just adding to your suspicion
[18:27] <Pici> I'll take care of the list for people who are already ops.
[18:27] <hggdh> Pici: thank you.
[18:28]  * popey ears prick up
[18:28] <Pici> #action Pici to update access lists from op requests
[18:28] <meetingology> ACTION: Pici to update access lists from op requests
[18:28] <Unit193> The #xubuntu applicant doesn't have his IRC nick listed, but I don't believe I know who that is anyway.
[18:28] <hggdh> For the others... can we get feedback in the ML for them? Positive, or negative, or neutral
[18:29] <hggdh> can we move on?
[18:30] <Pici> sure
[18:30] <hggdh> #topic Membership applications
[18:30] <hggdh> none. So. moving on
[18:30] <hggdh> #topic Any Other Business
[18:30] <hggdh> Unit193: I think you had something?
[18:30] <Unit193> Nothing this time.
[18:31] <hggdh> ok
[18:31] <hggdh> anybody has anything for here?
[18:31] <Pici> not I
[18:32] <teward> just an observation... if i may.
[18:32] <hggdh> teward: please go on
[18:32] <teward> (although a probably well known issue)
[18:32] <teward> there are times where the core channels (such as #ubuntu) are subject to higher levels of disruptive activities which affect all userbase
[18:32] <teward> such as last night, where there was a on-join CTCP bot sending CTCPs to users
[18:33] <teward> those timeperiods have a noted lack of operators - it wasn't until I hopped into -ops and identified an op who was 'available' to look at the issue that it got addressed
[18:33] <teward> whereas many individuals reported the issue in #ubuntu itself
[18:33] <teward> I would call upon the IRC team to investigate and identify such lull times in operator availability and look into potentially finding ops who can fill those time periods of heightened disruptivity with some monitoring
[18:34] <teward> (although this is not a recent issue, it has been present for a good bit of time)
[18:34] <teward> (and will likely be an issue into the foreseeable future)

[18:35] <Unit193> teward: So, you're done being done? ;)
[18:35] <teward> heh
[18:35] <hggdh> teward: ack. I am not sure how to deal with it, but we will discuss.
[18:36] <hggdh> any other AOB request?
[18:36] <hggdh> OK.
[18:36] <hggdh> #endmeeting
[18:36] <meetingology> Meeting ended Wed Dec 17 18:36:41 2014 UTC.
[18:36] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2014/ubuntu-meeting.2014-12-17-18.02.moin.txt
[18:36] <teward> (note my timezone is GMT-5 if you want to get an accurate timereference, and it was late there, such as 21:00 and after)
[18:36] <Tm_T> teward: that's something we've been trying to solve for a long time, at the same time we cannot lower the requirements of #ubuntu ops really, as it is quite special channel
[18:36] <Pici> thanks hggdh
[18:36] <hggdh> thank you to all
[18:36] <Pici> :)
[18:37] <teward> Tm_T: indeed, it still stands to reason it's an issue that should still be looked into where possible :)
[18:37] <Unit193> Thanks, chairs!
[18:37] <Tm_T> teward: I totally agree (:
[18:37] <teward> (i only brought it up because as a bigger issue a CTCP bot throwing VERISON requests at users might be seeking exploitable clients)
[22:34] <cariboo907> join /#ubuntuforums-fc
[22:36] <cariboo907> #ubuntuforums-fc
[22:36] <sarnold> cariboo907: /join #ubuntuforums-fc   :)
[22:37] <cariboo907> thanks that worked.