[05:39] morning all [05:39] hi drussell we are legal again for 2 years [05:39] yay [05:44] oh hes still sleeping [05:48] morning [05:52] More almal [05:53] hi bduk1 [05:54] morning Squirm [05:54] we missed you last night [06:06] wb ThatGraemeGuy [06:31] Kilos: yeah... works been hectic [06:31] worked here until 16:30 and then worked at a client until about 21:00 [06:36] sjoe [06:37] morning all [06:39] md0 : active raid5 sdf[5] sde[3] sdd[2] sdc[1] sdb[0] [06:39] 11720540160 blocks super 1.2 level 5, 512k chunk, algorithm 2 [5/4] [UUUU_] [06:39] [=====>...............] recovery = 27.9% (820151512/2930135040) finish=270.7min speed=129895K/sec [06:39] urgh [06:40] lovely [06:40] how big is each drive? [06:41] 3TB each [06:42] once its finished will do a speed test on it and see if this is gonna realistically or if I need to get a proper raid controller and potentially even replace those with faster drivers (its a second machine I built and I'm running iscsitarget) [06:43] I think the bigger problem is how are you going to walk around in general [06:43] running RAID5 with 3TB drives takes some seriously massive balls [06:43] :-p [06:44] lol ThatGraemeGuy well, what about this one: [06:44] ./dev/md0 121T 35T 86T 29% /mirror-data [06:45] thats 3 raid-5 hardware arrays that we then concat together [06:45] ;p [06:45] lol [06:45] good luck with that! [06:46] it works pretty well, but mainly because I have a.) got hotspares in there as well and b.) a cupboard full of new drives to replace any failures instantly and c.) something emailing me the moment a disk dies ;p [06:47] o/ oh hi [06:48] ltnc Symmetria [06:48] * nuvolari tips hat [06:48] morning oom Kilos, ThatGraemeGuy [06:48] hi there nuvolari [06:49] heh am ordering 6 of these though: [06:49] http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Desktop-3-5-Inch-Internal-STBD6000100/dp/B00JBJ34WC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1418798939&sr=8-1&keywords=seagate+6tb&pebp=1418798944273 [06:50] Symmetria: http://www.standalone-sysadmin.com/blog/2012/08/i-come-not-to-praise-raid-5/ [06:52] morning superfly [06:52] heh ThatGraemeGuy Im aware of things like that, the drives I have though are not standard desktop drives, they are raid edition drives [06:52] far lower ure rates [06:54] yeah those are definitely worth the extra cash when you start running a lot of them in an array [06:54] i still have 3 lowly 1.5TB rust spinners [07:00] heh I built the new machine purely so I could have more disk space, I hit the absolute limit on my first machine with what I could do in terms of disk space [07:00] heh, first machine has 6 internal 4TB disks and 10 USB-3 4TB disks attached to it [07:01] and had a spare gtx680 video card and spare 32 gig of ram lying around and like 8 3TB disks that I had replaced from other things in teh past so just bought myself a new motherboard cpu case and cooler [07:02] ok thats enough shut up now [07:02] pro tip: don't have kids :P [07:02] (just kidding kids, daddy loves you!) [07:02] haha dont think Im gonna have 2 much of an issue when I have kids, wifeys company is starting to do really well :) [07:03] and Im doing ok for myself :P [07:11] wanna buy one of these: [07:11] http://www.amazon.com/HighPoint-8-Channel-PCI-Express-RocketRAID-3620/dp/B00DWV4STS/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1418800239&sr=1-1&keywords=rocketraid+3620 [07:19] hi Kilos [07:19] morning ThatGraemeGuy, Symmetria, nuvolari, Squirm, bduk1 [07:20] hi superfly [07:31] hi fly [08:27] hey [08:27] superfly: when are we grabbing a coffee somewhere? [08:32] oh hi superfly [08:33] Squirm: any time (sortof) [08:33] Squirm: I've got next week and the week after off, can do something sometime then [08:44] Cool. Maybe early next week at some point - Will be busy Christmas and after [09:13] * nuvolari prods Squirm [09:13] need to try some squash too [09:15] nuvolari: when you find us a cheap but decent court ;) [09:16] I didn't have time to check out Bergvliet [09:44] Kilos: congrats on being legal. [09:44] cool ty drussell [09:45] thank heavens its only every 2 years [09:48] good morning [09:48] Maaz: coffee on [09:48] * Maaz puts the kettle on [09:48] hi charl [09:48] greet before ordering cyber coffee [09:48] oh you did [09:48] sorry [09:49] :D [09:49] hi Kilos [09:49] how are you this fine morning ? [09:49] im good ty and you? [09:49] Maaz: coffee please [09:49] Kilos: Done [09:52] Coffee's ready for charl and Kilos! [09:52] Maaz: gracias [09:52] Kilos: ¡de nada! [09:53] Maaz: danke [09:53] Bitteschön [09:53] Kilos: i'm also good ! [09:53] i was tired for a couple of days but am feeling much better now after some good sleep [09:54] lol [13:25] ai! [13:57] what are people using for dynamic dns nowadays? DynDNS started charging a while ago and I'm a cheapskate [14:30] hahaha [14:31] Maaz: google free alternative to DynDNS [14:31] Kilos: "The Best Free Alternatives to DynDNS - Lifehacker" http://lifehacker.com/the-best-free-alternatives-to-dyndns-1561556205 :: "DynDNS Alternatives -- No-IP Dynamic DNS (DDNS)" http://www.noip.com/blog/2014/04/24/dyn-dns-integrated-api-alternatives/ :: "Dyn Alternatives and Similar Software - AlternativeTo.net" http://alternativeto.net/software/dyndns/ :: [14:31] "Looking for a DynDNS alternative? Try DuckDNS! - Roy Tanck" http://www.roytanck.com/2014/05/… [14:32] ThatGraemeGuy: ^^ [14:49] I don't care what google says, I could've done that [14:50] but thanks for the thought :) [14:53] lol no man its just to keep the bot happy , otherwise he strikes [14:54] if you dont use him now and again one day he'll tell you I'm not your bitch [15:02] good mornings [15:02] oh shucks Kilos, who ate my time? [15:06] lol sorry inetpro evening [15:30] sjoe! jy G+ baie ne [15:34] http://www.earthclinic.com/remedies/cabbage.html [15:34] whew, not just that green stuff kids dont like [15:41] Kilos: uh? [15:42] "jy G+ baie ne"? [15:42] hmm... [15:43] https://plus.google.com/114254397525521567468/auto?cfem=1 [15:44] lol did you buy one of those tvs? [15:44] what tvs? [15:45] ai! in there somewhere man [15:47] nee meneer, geen nuwe tv hier nie, weet nie waarvan jy praat nie en ek post nie so baie nie [15:48] somewhere in that link is a link about being scared of the new tv. i thought you wouldnt go for that [15:48] curved screen [15:49] you wasting my data man [15:50] i should have asked those okes for a ubuntu fone last night [15:58] sjoe found it http://www.brennancenter.org/analysis/im-terrified-my-new-tv-why-im-scared-turn-thing [15:59] is that other peeps in your circles stuff that show inetpro or do you kinda retweet it [16:00] that was written by Michael Price man [16:00] * inetpro just posted it for interest sake like I do with many articles [16:01] to tell you to be careful about the TV spying on you [16:06] lol [16:06] im looking at apt-fast now [16:06] but cant copy/paste from there. what am i doing wrong [16:06] hi my magespawn [16:07] hello Kilos [16:07] magespawn: we need to go back to last nights meeting and ask for ubuntu fones [16:08] i think i could enjoy that kinda fone [16:08] maybe put kde on it too [16:09] I still have my doubts whether it really is all stable yet [16:09] i have lots of clever guys here to ask for help [16:10] inetpro: do you use apt-fast? [16:10] no [16:11] ok ty i wont install it then [16:11] interesting though [16:11] hi Private_User [16:11] * inetpro didn't say that you should not install it [16:11] you didnt come to the meeting grrr [16:12] if you dont use it inetpro thats good enough for me [16:12] ai [16:12] my internet is faster than yours anyway [16:12] hehe [16:13] maybe i must save up for a d-157 modemthen squeeze telkom a bit [16:14] that one can do 23mB/s [16:14] or mb. i forget [16:14] ya must be mb/s [16:24] inetpro: you worked it out yet? [16:24] In Kubuntu 12.04 you could choose the default components for various services under System Settings | Default Applications. If someone would want to set the Opera Browser as his default browser where would one do it with release 14.04 of Kubuntu? [16:25] mine works but dunno what i did [16:25] uh... I don't use Opera... [16:26] why you have that in the G+ thing then [16:26] grrr [16:26] ai! [16:26] lol [16:27] ty i enjoyed reading all that stuff, even though it ate data [16:27] KUbuntu 14.04.1 LTS still has System Settings | Default Applications [16:29] i make it default easy by removing firefox [16:29] hehe [16:30] ai! You read old stuff!? [16:30] i read it all [16:30] very lekker [16:30] no wonder you always busy [16:31] * Kilos ducks [16:31] I think I posted that to help you nogal [16:31] did you read the comments? [16:32] duh! then that was dumb [16:32] you know i do everything from here [16:32] G+ is for modern peeps [16:33] uncapped peeps [16:36] indeed [16:36] what I really like about G+ is that you get proper results when searching about historic postings, unlike facebook and twitter who still haven't figures how to search properly [16:37] figured* [16:40] well they have built there service on being able to do that [16:40] maybe it si just not a priority for the othere [16:40] others [16:49] the thing last night was fine G+ only show text posts [16:49] showed [16:50] how did you manage that? [16:50] um [16:50] er [16:51] i dunno [16:51] where peeps said we are legal again and the congrats and stuff [16:51] lemme see if opera remembered [16:53] https://plus.google.com/u/0/events/cf1ql00cct3au1auet4utlqda84?authkey=CMXdoP7k7aWkkQE&cfem=1 [16:54] that i dont mind using [17:30] brb [17:34] dinner time [17:35] enjoy [17:35] Maaz: forget re-verification [17:35] Kilos: Done [17:44] we could have him remember it for next time [17:45] oh ok [17:45] oh my [17:45] now he lost the link [17:46] Maaz: re-verification [17:46] Kilos: What? [17:46] twit bot, you mustnt always listen to me [17:49] Maaz: re-verification [17:49] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/ReVerificationApplication2016 [17:51] maybe i wont be here [17:52] ohi ThatGraemeGuy [18:01] back agaain [18:02] you reboot? [18:15] yup [18:15] pc froze on me [18:25] it does that sometimes when i have too many windows open in firefox [18:45] ai! [18:47] windows? [18:47] or buntu [18:51] xubuntu [18:53] just for interest sake install the latest opera and see if it also causes pc freeze under same conditions [18:53] Maaz: google latest opera-browser for ubuntu [18:53] Kilos: "Opera for computers - Opera Software" http://www.opera.com/computer/linux :: "Download Opera browser - Opera Software" http://www.opera.com/download :: "Opera 12.16 for Linux x86-64 - Opera Web Browser | Faster & safer ..." http://www.opera.com/download/guide/?os=linux :: "Download - Opera Web Browser | Faster & safer | Download the new ..." [18:53] http://www.opera.com/download/linux/ :: "OperaBrowser - Community Help Wiki - Official Ubuntu Documentat… [18:54] the new one is even better than the old one [18:56] i will have a look in a second [18:59] whats specs pc you using? [19:01] old as in 1.7 512 ram [19:02] ouch [19:02] opera is lighter so might be better [19:02] 512 ram is min [19:05] my phone has more than that [19:06] Tonberry: same, 2GB here... [19:06] lol [19:06] I almost feel like giving my old netbook away to him.. [19:08] ahh but does it have a full size screen? [19:08] theblazehen: any donations are most welcome, that is how i got this machine [19:09] the wife is using the newest machine, because of studying through unisa and using pastel she has to have windows [19:10] magespawn: 1024x600 [19:10] Might wanna get a USB GPU though.. [19:10] In terms of graphics an old celeron 600MHz easily beats the atom [19:11] Like 7 FPS extra in that Linux lemmings game [19:11] Minetest with minimum graphics is 3-20 FPS [19:11] do not use much in the way graphics, i hardly play games on the laptop, that is for work only [19:12] i have desktops at home for that [19:12] But I assume you watch video at least... [19:13] sometimes not very often [19:14] it seems to handle youtube okay [19:15] Mine can't handle 480p mp4s in vlc... [19:15] At least not action scenes, or when a scene changes [19:17] But I think you can hook a GPU up to it [19:17] Remove the sdcard slot, and use a pcie riser, or something [19:28] theblazehen: the one i am on now is not the netbook [19:29] magespawn: yeah, just saying about my netbooks performance [19:29] It sucked real bad running it in a multi monitor setup... [19:37] Hi captine [19:37] hi captine [19:37] ahh right, understood theblazehen [19:38] magespawn: just wondering: what netbook do you have? Which processor/GPU? [19:38] not sure let me check [19:41] hi all [19:41] http://www.cnet.com/products/acer-aspire-one-happy-n55dqb2b-10-1-atom-n550-windows-7-starter-1-gb-ram-250-gb-hdd/specs/ [19:41] hi captine [19:41] that one theblazehen [19:41] just finished installing openmediavault on a machine. anyone used it? really neat web interface for nas setup [19:43] magespawn: mine seems a little better, are you running Linux on yours? Does that atom also use GMA3600 graphics? [19:43] captine: never used, just run my own on Ubuntu server [19:43] i am running lubuntu, no idea, how do i check? [19:44] Hmm.. "lsmod | grep GMA" what does that show? [19:44] Might need sudo [19:44] Grep -i gma * [19:47] let me see [19:49] first one does nothing [19:49] even with sudo [19:50] the last does "grep: Desktop: Is a directory" , for Documents, Downloads etc [19:53] Sorry, meant the star as a correction :/ [19:54] magespawn: "lsmod | grep -i GMs" [19:54] gma * not GMs [19:55] "lsmod | grep -i gma" [19:55] Autocorrect ... [19:57] still nothing [19:57] even with sudo [19:59] Can you get the driver like from http://askubuntu.com/questions/23238/how-can-i-find-what-video-driver-is-in-use-on-my-system ty [19:59] Top answer [19:59] Sorry for all the trouble.. [20:00] will do, but i have to go now they want to lock the office [20:00] Alright no problem [20:00] good night all [20:01] magespawn: when the desktop freezes try CTRL+F1 then login on the CLI and kill the firefox process [20:01] eish... missed him [20:01] lol [20:01] hi nlsthzn [20:01] oops... CTRL+ALT+F1 [20:02] inetpro: you get that on newest Firefox? [20:02] what does that do inetpro ? [20:02] Oh, and hi.. [20:02] same as f3 and f2 [20:02] Kilos: same as your f3 thing [20:02] Ya [20:02] aha [20:02] Goes up to 6, 7 is graphical [20:02] Can get more if you want [20:03] i like that if you can remember things and have internet you can fix lots [20:03] wb nlsthzn wassup you [20:03] bad connection again? [20:04] hi, sorry was configuring quasel [20:04] I'm off, cya all. [20:04] np [20:04] nlsthzn: good choice [20:04] cheers theblazehen [20:05] you quassel peeps walk around with your noses in the air [20:05] ohi superfly [20:05] reboots are very seldom able to address the real problem [20:06] lol it kills the freeze and the fox [20:06] so all are well>? [20:06] hi Kilos [20:07] and yes uncle Kilos, using Kubuntu ;) [20:07] yeah we good ty nlsthzn and you? [20:07] well done [20:07] inetpro: yeah, kill -9 will fix it... Right?! [20:07] nlsthzn: look at konversation [20:07] first is to identify the relevant process that causes the hang and then take it from there [20:07] you can configure it lekker to even bloep [20:08] I also enjoy konversation... installed it but decided to try quassel again [20:08] so does quassel [20:08] inetpro: well, indirectly, init spawns the process that will hang.. Kill -9 1 [20:08] ai! [20:08] Yeah, I get what you saying [20:08] Lol [20:09] wow i battled with quassel to get the bloep then went konversation and stayed [20:09] can do ctrl+r to underline [20:09] well I am glad it works well for you uncle Kilos :) [20:09] ai! wat ai! jy nou weer [20:10] this 14.04 kde is kinda bullet proof [20:11] Kilos: I think me :) [20:12] theblazehen: you what? [20:12] oh the ai! [20:12] rfofl [20:12] rofl too [20:12] * Kilos bumps head on the bed [20:13] nlsthzn: i cant do the membership thing man [20:13] you can't or you do not want? [20:14] no i was reading there somewhere [20:14] um [20:15] whats the word when you do or give stuff [20:15] contributions [20:15] contribution? [20:15] i done none [20:15] i can fill in there why i think i deserve it\ [20:15] well uncle Kilos I believe you missunderstand what itmeans to contribute... but I am going to go for a quick sleep, tomorrow I will convincve you otherwise ;) [20:16] ok [20:16] good nigth all [20:16] sleep tight and dont break kde [20:17] good nght nlsthzn [20:19] hehe [20:28] theblazehen, i was trying that, but i kept breaking my ubuntu server when trying new things etc... this tool has nice gui and plugins for plexmedia server etc [20:29] night all you strong ones [20:29] sleep tight [21:36] who all was interested in the site? [21:36] inetpro: ? [21:37] Maaz: tell magespawn http://ubuntuza.snyman.capetown/ [21:37] superfly: Got it, I'll tell magespawn on freenode [21:37] Maaz: tell nlsthzn http://ubuntuza.snyman.capetown/ [21:37] superfly: Righto, I'll tell nlsthzn on freenode [21:37] . [21:37] inetpro: ^^ [21:37] just a start [21:37] nice [21:38] superfly: now how about hosting the files on github? [21:38] * superfly vomits in his mout [21:38] *moouth [21:38] :-) [21:38] bah [21:38] how about we do things the Ubuntu way and use Launchpad? [21:39] bzr [21:39] ya [21:39] no problemo [21:39] is bzr even alive still? [21:39] yes [21:41] * inetpro just thought it could be nice to have it in a repo of some sort [21:43] then anyone who wants to update the site is forced to learn the basic pull and push commands from where you can update to the server if you're happy [21:44] just an idea [21:45] rephrase: just another crazy idea [21:49] inetpro: totally, just not with git [21:53] superfly: haha, sorry to spoil your appetite [21:53] * inetpro didn't realise that he didn't like git after all this time [21:54] doesn't* [21:54] I could rant about it, but I won't.